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How to Become the Person You Were Meant to Be. · INSPIRE STORY

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  Speaker 1: And when you are low, to know to think of
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  times where you felt high and to experience that gratitude
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  that you know you can feel that happy. That's what
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  I cling onto most. You cling on to most. You
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  can't feel any other feeling but gratitude.
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  Speaker 2: When experience experience.
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  Speaker 1: And gratitude, And I'm so thankful for that because in
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  my times of darkness, I just feel grateful that I
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  know what light feels like.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, thank you so much for coming back to
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  On Purpose, the number one health podcast in the world.
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  Thanks to each and every one of you, I'm genuinely,
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  so deeply touched that you come back every single week
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  to learn, to listen, to grow, and to make an
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  investment into your development, your growth. And you know that
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  I try bring on guests every single week that I
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  believe are going to help you live a better, more meaningful,
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  purposeful life. And today's guest is incredible. Like her energy
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  is infectious, her smiles can take. The love that she
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  emanates and embodies from the moment I met her is
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  truly one of the most beautiful things to witness and observe.
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  And I'm so excited that you're going to get to
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  witness that for so much more time today than we
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  usually do. And I have to say, she has one
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  of the busiest schedules in the world, So the fact
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  that she's actually made time for this, I'm super humbled
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  and grateful. So let me go into this and listen
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  very carefully. This is everyone listening. Today's guest is an actress,
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  a television host, comedian, and YouTuber. She began her career
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  on Vine in twenty thirteen before starting a YouTube channel.
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  Her acting roles include ad a Walker in Tyler Perry's
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  horror comedy film Boo a Medea Halloween, and the Explorer
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  in the YouTube premium series Escape the Night. She starred
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  as Violet Adams in Hulu drama television series Freakish, and
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  she both produces and stars in the YouTube premium comedy
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  series Liza on Demand and series two is coming out,
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  so we're gonna be talking a lot about that. And
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  she's the host of the Nickelodeon game show Double Dare.
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  She's received four Streamy Awards. Right Guys Not just won
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  four Streaming Awards, fourteen Choice Awards, and a Kid's Choice Award.
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  She's a member of the twenty nineteen Forbes thirty under thirty,
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  and she's got a lot of years to go before
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  that even gets close. She's got a ton of time.
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  And she was on Times twenty nineteen list of the
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  twenty five most influential people on the Internet, with sixty
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  million followers across over four platforms. Her name is the
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  one and only Liza Koshi. You are such a legend.
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  You were such a legend. Thank you. Couldn't they have
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  put you on like the Forbes twenty five under twenty
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  five or like twenty three under twenty three. I know
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  what do I doing.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad I slid you my resume so you could
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  read all of that.
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  Speaker 2: I had to read it. I had to read it,
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  and I thought about this, and I'll be honest with you,
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  when we're researching guests and we're getting the bio together
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  and I'm picking out what to say, and I read
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  that and I literally said to Julian, I said to
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  him when we were looking at it, I was just like,
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  I'm going to say all of it because she deserves it.
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  I'm going to say all of it, and there's so
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  much more. But I was like, I wanted you to
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  and I want everyone listening, and I want you to
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  recom it's just how amazing you are and what you've accomplished,
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  how incredible it is, and you do it with so
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  much grace, like you don't do it with any ego.
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  I've never sensed arrogance from you. I've never sensed ego.
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  It's an actress.
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  Speaker 3: I'm full of it. I'm just pretending to be humble
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  over here.
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  Speaker 2: So you're a great actress, which I got. The show
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  then true to prove it exactly, I'm trying, and I'm
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  so excited for season two. I've been watching the first
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  it's been amazing. Thank you. So it's been so exciting.
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  Speaker 1: Season two got a little bit of an upgrade, so
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  we got a little bit more budget on that one.
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  So we got more budget but surprisingly less wardrobe. So
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  I will say in the first episode, I am naked,
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  So speaking of what I watch, you to watch so
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  check it out.
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  Speaker 2: But it is, it is, it's very vulnerable.
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  Speaker 1: I will say, I'm very exposed, literally and figuratively and spiritually.
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  So you get to see more of a journey and
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  more of like my growth as like a human being
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  but also as a character, and it kind of like
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  parallels my real life of me stepping into my power,
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  and so does my character.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm excited for them. That's amazing. I love that,
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  and I love how much of when I've been watching it,
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  I love how much of you is infused into the character. Yes,
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  like it does help it, Yeah no, but it's so
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  it's still done so uniquely. Like so I never feel
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  like I'm watching a video of yours. It definitely feels
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  like a show, which I love that distinction that you've
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  been able to make. It's very different. But at the
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  same time, I can see you genuinely coming out and
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  I think that's your superpower, like you know, you as
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  who you are and your your expressions, your emoji like face,
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  like you know, that's that's like the stuff. And I'm like,
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  I'm so happy to see that come out and the
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  comedies all you like you're writing as well.
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  Speaker 1: That's me so yeah, I mean the writer's room, I'm
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  writing and you know, developing the story with a bunch
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  of other amazing magicians and cooks in the kitchen. So
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  I'm just blessed to have this like amazing family that's
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  willing to uplift this story that hasn't really been told
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  so or at least still from my perspective.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm excited. Yeah, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: We were just talking about starting off with compliments and
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  I have these like I'm like, you know, I was
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  nervous because my first podcast, I'm trying to do my
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  most soothing voice possible. Sounds like an off brand Beyonce
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  right now, Hey y'all, y'all doing, But I look like
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  crazy Cardi B right now, like if Cardi B was
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  raised at Disneyland or something. If you're watching the visual,
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  I'm wearing many colors, every color in the Pantone book,
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  I swear.
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  Speaker 2: So we have Elijah Curcy, Cardi B, and Beyonce one
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  three for one. Baby's amazing. No, and this is your
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  first podcast, this is my first point, which which I
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  felt so humbled and honored by. I was like, wow, like,
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  thank you, so grateful.
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  Speaker 1: It is an honor to be on yours. I can't
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  tell you like how many times I've been in my
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  times of weakness and I felt empowered and strengthened through
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  your words and through your.
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  Speaker 3: Shares on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: I always say, like, you know, feed your feed with
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  things that genuinely feed you.
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  Speaker 3: And genuinely is a word that's thrown around a lot,
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  but you are.
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  Speaker 1: Genuinely one of the most amazing, like enlightening souls that
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  I've ever come across.
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  Speaker 3: And this is like our first time like hanging out too.
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching this like full, full conversation that we've never
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  had before, just like on camera with each other.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm excited.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I appreciate everything that you've done.
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  Speaker 1: You you helped me through a really tough time, and
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  I'm grateful to be here today to thank you in person.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm here for you. I'm totally here for you anytime,
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  and you know, anytime. And I'm I was so touched
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  by the mention in the Wall Street Journal and so
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  many other places. It's not even that like I just
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  I wanted to say that, like I think this is
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  who you are. And this is where I want to
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  start with how this conversation has already gone, because it's
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  turned into a compliment that already I'm going to stop this.
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  I actually have some questions I wanted to ask, which
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  I will get to, but but I want to point
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  this out because I think it's important to testament to
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  who you are. Like you said, this is the first
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  time we're like sitting down face to face having our conversation.
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  You could have said anyone, but you still said me,
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  and you've you've mentioned so many wonderful things about me,
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  and I'm just like, this is the most beautiful thing
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  about something, Like you're saying it when we haven't even
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  had this moment to sit down together. And so anyway,
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  the feelings meture. We're going to stop complimenting each other.
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  You will not hear a compliment for the rest of
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  this podcast that both of our egos are boosted. Yeah,
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  I'm good. So yeah, exactly like that. Now that we've
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  got that out of the way, like we're going to
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  you're going to ask serious interview questions. I want to
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  start off. I want to start off with something, and
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  I want to dive into the making of the show
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  and everything, but I want to start off with something
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  that I think is important to what you've touched on.
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  It's important to how you've spoken about it. And you
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  said this, and it's really powerful. When you return from
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  your social media break, you said that it was the
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  first time that you felt successful. Yeah, And when I
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  heard that, I was just like, wow, Like what happened
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  in that time? Yeah, Like we've just read your resume.
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  You know, everyone knows your accomplishments. But you said that
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  that was the first time you felt successful. What happened
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  in that time? Well, people were like where Liza was like,
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  now I feel successful?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well everybody has their own definition of success, right,
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  And my definition of success, although it may sound selfish,
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  it's not the feeling of joy and happiness that resides
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  in that quiet confidence that resides in myself. And I
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  was always a very big, kind of obnoxious, like real
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  loud personality like comes out in different forms and has
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  explored myself creative land different forms, whether it be through
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  hosting or acting or whatever it may be, or whatever
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  inspires me in that time.
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  Speaker 3: But I was finding myself.
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  Speaker 1: I created this box or this rectangle if you will,
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  of you know, my YouTube videos and all these characters
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  and personas that I put on and that I created
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  for myself. And I'll get more into that later, because
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  there's reasons why I created all those personas, and I
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  developed this level of awareness that I'm like, oh, that's
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  why I made that, because I needed that, and I'll
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  get into that. But I literally created this this rectangle
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  and people knew me. They created a definition around me
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  as to what I do or what I create, and
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  I had to break out of that.
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  Speaker 3: So you think of like a you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, a kid on Disney Channel, right, and that network
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  created you know, what that character is and that show
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  and what the messages are trying to convey and that show.
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  And then when that person as a human being naturally
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  grows and evolves, they become you know, they're themselves or
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  whatever version they may become.
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  Speaker 3: And that's that's like a role you break out of.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I created my own and so to break out
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  of that and become this host or become this actress
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  was me, you know, experimenting creatively outside of what people
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  knew me to be. And so I made this definition.
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  I allowed them to define me, and then I was
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  redefining myself in that time that I took away and
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  I allowed myself to Breathe allowed myself to.
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  Speaker 3: Be whatever I may be.
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  Speaker 1: Within that day or ten minutes were ever changing and
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  ever evolving, and there was a point where I was,
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  you know, kind of stunting myself and holding myself back
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  from becoming. And now I've become myself or selves. So
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  now my whole thing is like not only be yourself
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  because right, we got we know that cliche. We know that, like, yes,
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  be yourself, whoever that may be, but now it's plural,
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  be yourselves whatever you may identify as and whatever you
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  are drawn to and want to become. So in that
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  time it was a lot of growth and a lot
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  of like spiritual awakening. My forehead always hearts because my
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  third up seeing things now. Yeah, but it's been fun,
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  and I'm so grateful to my audience for allowing me
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  to have that break and allowing me to be a
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  human instead of you know, the character, the persona that
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  I created online.
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  Speaker 2: I love that be yourselves, be yourselves. I love that.
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  So that's almost like giving your permission to be more
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  than one thing.
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  Speaker 3: Be more than one thing.
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  Speaker 1: Identify as many you are. You know, I in the industry,
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  I'm this hoster, I'm this actress, or I'm this personality,
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  whatever that may be in your in your real life.
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  It's who you are at work, who you are at church,
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  who you are at you know, whatever wherever you may go.
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  You are these different versions of yourself. And allowing yourself
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  to be and accept yourself yourselves.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. That's such great advice. I think you're
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  so right that we get so caught up in our
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  definition of what we think we should be, and then
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  we get caught up in the definition of what everyone
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  thinks we should be. I think it's I think it's
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  the Japanese say, we have three faces. So the first
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  face is the face that we show to the world,
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  the second the face is the face that we show
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  to people that are closer to us, and the third
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  face is the face we show to no one else. Right,
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  those are three faces, and I'm sure there's multiple other
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  layers of that, but it's interesting what you're saying is
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  actually like embrace all of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, embrace all of them. And that face that you
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  don't show to the world is the hardest to show.
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  But I think it's like it's what the industry needs,
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  and it's what you do essentially, is like is showing
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  the world that it's okay to be who you are
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  behind the curtain, but in front of it as well.
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  Like that's that's the most exciting, most vulnerable, most relatable
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  part that you can be is like accepting of your
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  feelings and your emotions.
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  Speaker 3: That's the hardest part, but is what we need. So
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  thankful for it.
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  Speaker 2: That's so beautiful, and compliments are now over, so you
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  get stop stuff? Can you? Can you stop?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, calm down right, I get it. I have a
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  whole podcast, very successful. Actually keep listening.
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  Speaker 2: I love it, and I love what you're saying earlier
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  like this, that really got me thinking. And I didn't
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  know that you were saying that. You started to realize
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  that you build characters to express and feelings because of
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  what you were going through. Yeah, take us through that,
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  because I think that's fascinating.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know I was crazy, and then
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  I found out as I had this level of awareness.
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  You hit your twenties, man, that hit me like a brick.
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  I ran straight into a wall when I hit my twenties,
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  and I'm grateful for that wall because it allowed me
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  to stop and like pull back and listen to what
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  I was doing and too myself into the world.
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  Speaker 3: So I created these crazy characters. One because I'm a.
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  Speaker 2: Real good looking man.
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  Speaker 1: I look good in a bowl cut, and that is
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  a hard thing to achieve. His name was Jet, or
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  his name is still Jet.
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  Speaker 3: He's still with us. I sounded like he died.
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  Speaker 2: He's fine, he's doing well he's thriving, but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, he was this character that I created, a little
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  bowl cut, a little mustache, always wearing black.
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  Speaker 3: He looks real dapper.
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  Speaker 1: He thinks he's fantastic at everything, but he kind of sucks.
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  But he has this like unspoken also very loud spoken
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  confidence of like I can't do anything, and I embody,
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  you know my truth always, which is that I'm great,
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  and I believe in that, even if you know physically
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  I can't prove that. So it's really bad at sports.
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  You can't do a single thing. He's awful. He's the
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  world's greatest Olympian in his book, but in everybody else's
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  he's just crazy.
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  Speaker 3: But he was basically what I needed.
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  Speaker 1: So I needed that that confidence that just like entire
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  like almost delusional belief in oneself. And that's I forget
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  who said it. It's probably somebody on this very inspiring wall,
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  but someone said, you have to be a bit delusional.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it was it was Ali Ali.
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  Speaker 1: He said, you have to be a bit delusional in
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  order to believe in yourself that nothing has ever been
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  done before, that you are able to provide the world.
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  And so I created this jet to be this branch
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  of confidence that I needed, and that was a form
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  of myself that sometimes you step into that power of
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  confidence and you're not sure what the hell you're doing,
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  but you look, you're confident doing it, and you're just
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  leaning into fear instead of, you know, letting it control you.
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  But then this other version was Helga, who's a very
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  like maternal figure. She is she's from somewhere. She sounds
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  beauty like lios. I don't know what she's from. I say,
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  she's not from anywhere, so I don't defend anyone hill.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: She's from the world, she's cultured, she just picked up
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  an accident. She's actually just you know, from Minnesota.
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  Speaker 3: But she was this like maternal figure.
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  Speaker 1: I moved out at nineteen and I didn't have my
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  mom in my life in la and I had her
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  blessing to move out here, but I didn't have the
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  guidance that you know, I wanted or craved. So I
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  created her and she was, you know, the very outspoken
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  confidence too, of like knowing and being sure in her
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  word and what she believes.
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  Speaker 3: So that's who I created for that.
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  Speaker 1: And then this little Liza is this young version of
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  myself that has. You know, she's kind of unaware, she's innocent.
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  She ignorance is bliss kind of thing. And we all
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  have this inner child in which we embraced at times,
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  but sometimes sometimes we also shove down.
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  Speaker 3: We don't want to.
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  Speaker 1: Be too crazy, too big, or we're too many colors
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  at the same time. And that's what Little Liza was
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  for me. She allowed me to embrace, you know, the
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  younger characteristics of myself.
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  Speaker 3: And it was me not wanting.
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  Speaker 1: To step into adulthood either. I'll tell you that my
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  midlife crisis. She was holding me back from me, you
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  know what I'm saying. So I created her in order
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  to allow myself to play. And we should all just
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  be allowed to play and have fun and not you know,
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  conform to whatever society may be saying they want to see.
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  But then, yeah, those are my characters and they're all
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  different branches of me, and so I created all of
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  them and now I'm kind of bringing them all together
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  as one, which.
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  Speaker 2: Is just me. And that's the Liza we see on
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  Liza on Delane, and that's.
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  Speaker 3: The Liza you see on Lies on Demand.
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  Speaker 1: It's her like, you know, being a little confused about
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  what to do with her career, but thank you.
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  Speaker 3: For tying it back into the show. God dang, you
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  were Goodness.
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  Speaker 1: You see that version of me that like is embodying
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  everything and embracing everything about herself.
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  Speaker 2: So I love that. I'm so glad that you shared
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  that because I think and I'm guessing when you actually
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  created them, you didn't know that. No, it's in hindsight
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  now that you've reflected and you've looked at those roles
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  and you've been like, oh, that's why I think that.
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  And I love that because what you're saying is so true.
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  There's two things I want to point out to the audience,
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  which you've just done here. Is when you look at
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  what Arlie said, is like Ali said that, you know,
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  he said he was the greatest before he was. Yeah,
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  And so that's exactly the point of like he was
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  saying that to convince himself, not really to convince anyone else,
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  but then going through that process he did become. And
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  in the same way, Steve Jobs had something called reality
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  distortion field. So that's where you're creating a almost not
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  slightly delusional, but a aspirational version of who you want
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  to be, and you're creating it so that you can
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  then become that. And then Martin Luther King used to
• 16:47
  put on glasses. Yes, so Todd Herman, who I interviewed
• 16:50
  and wrote the book The Alter Ego Effect, he talked
• 16:53
  about how Martin Luther King used to wear glasses because
• 16:56
  they made him feel more confident.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Me and Martin Luther King have so much in common.
• 17:00
  I mean, like I actually have.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't wear them today because I just want to
• 17:03
  like look you directly in the eye. But I have
• 17:04
  a pair of fake glasses that I wear all the time.
• 17:07
  That's yeah, because it makes me feel like so much
• 17:09
  more like.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Regal and do you write them to meetings and stuff.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I wear them to meetings because I feel like they
• 17:14
  take me more seriously. You see like a little five
• 17:16
  footnome waddle into the office. You're like, well, I'm gonna
• 17:18
  listen to this. This is going to tell me an idea,
• 17:20
  a good idea. And I put my glasses on. I
• 17:22
  become this like, hey, yeah.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I got some things to say.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: I've seen the world.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you about it. Like your mind with
• 17:27
  the gig the King. Yeah, I have dreams too. I
• 17:32
  love it. No, but and this and that's something I
• 17:34
  wanted to talk about there, Like one thing I get
• 17:36
  from speaking to you today and obviously Courtney, who we
• 17:39
  both love, yes, and when she talks about you to me,
• 17:42
  and from what I've observed, I think of anyone who's
• 17:45
  anything that you've accomplished externally, but also just the person
• 17:47
  that you are. I think I'm trying really hard not
• 17:50
  to compliment you. You say it, say what you love
• 17:54
  about me. But the thing I find is that I
• 17:59
  don't think people should underestimate people based on their age
• 18:03
  or their professional experience, because I'm like, when I see
• 18:06
  what you've achieved externally in terms of everything we talked about,
• 18:11
  and who I see you as a human, and just
• 18:12
  how you've just reflected on how you created roles, Like
• 18:16
  that's not a you know a lot of time.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: That's a year after YouTube, man, I had a lot
• 18:19
  of time to think and journal and meditate, you know, yeah,
• 18:23
  But it's.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Like that reflection is super mature, Like people don't realize
• 18:27
  for decades that they've been creating personas to play and
• 18:30
  not knowing who they are and figuring out their identity,
• 18:33
  Like that's something we do for our whole lives. And
• 18:35
  so I think anyone who's judging someone or questioning someone's
• 18:41
  ideas when they're walking through their room because of how
• 18:43
  they look and how they dress and how old they are.
• 18:46
  I mean that needs to go for sure. That needs
• 18:48
  to go for sure.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Judge a book by its cover because there's a whole
• 18:50
  story on the inside that you're about to find out
• 18:52
  if you're willing to listen.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And how how have you dealt with that
• 18:55
  with like you know, you're creating shows, you're hosting shows.
• 18:58
  How have you dealt with that to be able to
• 19:00
  display without having to like defend yourself?
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I feel like you do that pretty well
• 19:05
  display defend. There's another D word I say, disarm. So
• 19:09
  I immediately that's my favorite thing to do, is like disarming,
• 19:12
  And that's what I use my humor for. Is I
• 19:14
  either compliment, which you just did, by the way, thank
• 19:16
  you for all those compliments that you said you weren't
• 19:17
  gonna give any more of you. You either compliment or
• 19:21
  you disarm. You allow them to know, like, Yo, we're
• 19:23
  all just here. We have really cool jobs, and like
• 19:27
  what we're doing is a blessing to do every day.
• 19:29
  So to walk in and just immediately like yo, just
• 19:32
  let's set the temperament. Now, let's let's enjoy ourselves, let's
• 19:35
  have a good time. Let's let's, you know, acknowledge the
• 19:38
  world around us and the fact that we're living this
• 19:40
  life is so cool. So that's that's my go to
• 19:44
  when walking into a meeting that I'm feeling nervous about,
• 19:46
  because that's what I want for somebody to do for me.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I want them to make me feel comfortable.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: So allowing someone complimenting someone is making them feel comfortable
• 19:54
  and who they are and like taking a second to
• 19:56
  acknowledge and notice what they've done to themselves, whatever that be.
• 20:00
  But yeah, so I think for me, it's just stepping
• 20:03
  in and being bold and being confident and being that
• 20:05
  version of myself. I tap into my my jet or
• 20:07
  I put in my put on my glasses, and I
• 20:10
  allow myself to firmly believe that I have something to say.
• 20:13
  And you know, if you're receptive and you're ready to listen,
• 20:15
  then you're in your place. And if you're not and
• 20:17
  you want to shut down that idea, then that's all right.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I forgive you.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: You're there's there's something that you're working through, and when
• 20:24
  you work past it, maybe you will see hopefully I
• 20:26
  pray for you more clearly.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. That's awesome. Don't display or defend, disarm. Yeah,
• 20:32
  I think that's beautiful. I think that's such a thank you.
• 20:35
  I've never thought about it like that, Like I almost
• 20:38
  feel like I've practiced some of it and do that.
• 20:41
  I've never really consciously understood that in that word awareness,
• 20:45
  I think that, Yeah, And I think you've just made
• 20:47
  me conscious of it and you've walked me up to
• 20:49
  It's beautiful. It's like that's such a powerful point that
• 20:52
  I think if we can always look when we walk
• 20:54
  into meetings or we walk into an interaction or anything
• 20:58
  to disarm everyone, that we can allow ourselves to be
• 21:02
  more ourselves. Sure, I think I think that's beautiful. I
• 21:04
  think that's such a great practical takeaway because I think
• 21:07
  we all get so lost in we always walk into
• 21:08
  a meeting and feel like I'm gonna have to defend
• 21:10
  myself today, I'm gonna have to like stand up for
• 21:12
  like I'm this. So we start looking at all of
• 21:15
  our things that people could pick out like I'm going
• 21:16
  to build myself up, or we got like I'm going
• 21:18
  to show what I'm good at I'm going to display
• 21:20
  and I just that's a huge takeaway for me. That's massive.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Did you one thing You've taught me so many like
• 21:27
  how many posts you have on Instagram?
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: That many things. You've taught me that many things and more.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Now you just woke me up to I think that's
• 21:33
  a huge point. I just think if we can walk
• 21:35
  into every interaction in our lives, yeah, and think, how
• 21:38
  can I disarm the other person and disarm myself? Humanize human?
• 21:42
  Yeah that's beautiful.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, That's what I love to do, is just
• 21:46
  like make you feel comfortable in whatever heightened or relaxed
• 21:49
  environment that you're in. Like, this is so relaxing to
• 21:52
  be here just talking to you. It's definitely it's different
• 21:54
  than Metgal.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Dirt off my shoulder, I mehan, you were doing all
• 21:58
  the interviews on Metgal. Like this podium right, I.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Was empowering in itself. That ePower five feet tall. I
• 22:05
  was wearing four inch shields. I was five four but
• 22:07
  they still needed more.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: And you had to wait for everyone to walk the
• 22:10
  whole coffee and you were standing there as like the
• 22:13
  gatekeeper ready. But you were amazing. Everyone seemed to love
• 22:15
  talking Dan, thank you, thank you. What was the conversation
• 22:18
  that you remember that kind of left and impact?
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I have to say I love Stephen Colbert.
• 22:24
  So like last year was my first year doing met Gala.
• 22:26
  This year I kind of like came back and felt
• 22:28
  more comfortable and in my power for sure. But last
• 22:31
  year I just geeked out over Stephen Colbert and from
• 22:33
  that I was invited to be on his show, which
• 22:35
  was amazing, and it was just a chain reaction of
• 22:37
  fortunate events.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: It was cool, but he just you know, he has
• 22:42
  a platform and I think he uses it in amazing
• 22:44
  ways and he does the same disarming So I'm just
• 22:48
  inspired by people I watch all the time. And yeah,
• 22:51
  yeah it was cool, but let me think who else.
• 22:53
  It was wonderful, just like seeing people this year, especially
• 22:56
  the theme was.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Camp so you could go as hard as you wanted to,
• 23:00
  and I had a whole pocket full of like could
• 23:04
  have been hot Cheetos that I was selling on the side,
• 23:06
  which I'm sure people would have appreciated because inside you
• 23:08
  just get one chicken breast, which.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Chicken breast and a little skip greens. I think an
• 23:14
  a winter is paleo. She was ensuring everybody else was
• 23:17
  following her diet, but no, I had a like my
• 23:20
  arm was missing, so my arm was inside this giant
• 23:22
  pocket the whole time. It's just like flasted in there
• 23:24
  the whole time. I didn't see the sunlight, so.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: It's a little more pale to this day.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: But it was cool because everybody was just expressing themselves
• 23:31
  and like they were decorating their spirit that day or
• 23:34
  their soul that day, which I like to say, because
• 23:35
  they were just having fun and being who they are
• 23:37
  and embracing it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: So it was fun.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I remember you describing Lady Gaga's out for changes on
• 23:43
  the carpet, and I was like, this is brilliant, like
• 23:45
  I was, just because you can see it from Afar
• 23:47
  and you're like you're going through the motions that everyone
• 23:49
  got to go through on the pictures afterwards. But I
• 23:52
  think you did an awesome job and I love how again,
• 23:55
  like I think you are constantly giving everyone who's listening,
• 23:59
  everyone who watch your permissioned to be themselves because you
• 24:01
  always are, Like I just don't see you change in
• 24:05
  different forums, in different you know, whether it's the stream
• 24:08
  eas where I first met you, last year or whether
• 24:11
  it's you know, the mat gulla whatever, like you're always
• 24:14
  emanating who you are, and I think that that's a
• 24:15
  beautiful thing. I think holding on too that at such
• 24:18
  a young age, like you're only twenty three years old,
• 24:21
  and I think that's amazing that you've just been able
• 24:23
  to really understand yourself and be comfortable in your own skin.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: And I'm glad it looks like that. That's what I'm saying.
• 24:28
  I think I might be a good actress because because
• 24:31
  because I am you're I became comfortable with being uncomfortable
• 24:35
  and I love the skin I'm in, but I'm always
• 24:37
  trying to understand what exactly is inside so that that
• 24:40
  willingness to be open and accept whatever may come out.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's it. Well that's what's beautiful about it.
• 24:45
  Like that's even more powerful you've just said there, like
• 24:47
  you're constantly trying to understand, Like that constant like awareness
• 24:51
  and actualization going on is what people need to do. Yeah,
• 24:54
  I love that. Amazing awesome. Well, tell me about what
• 24:58
  I was really fascinated by is like, obviously I've done
• 25:00
  all of this great social media work, like you've you know,
• 25:03
  built an amazing platform, amazing audience, people love you like
• 25:07
  you know, and it's just what I was fascinated by
• 25:10
  is then you go and create a show. And as
• 25:14
  I was pointing out earlier, to me, it's another level,
• 25:18
  Like the writing is incredible, the scripting is incredible, the
• 25:21
  you know, all the jokes in the punchlines, the character style,
• 25:24
  the other characters that involve, which is different to you
• 25:27
  being characters. It's now you interacting with real other people,
• 25:31
  which is different from your work. Tell me about the
• 25:33
  process of actually building a show, oh man, because I
• 25:36
  feel like it's a massive undertaking. I mean, building a
• 25:39
  YouTube audience and YouTube is hard enough, but then to
• 25:41
  like transition, tell me tell us about that transition.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Oh chat, how much time do we have?
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: So basically, I hope you like the sound of my voice.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: By the way, just checking in mid podcasts because I've
• 25:51
  been talking a lot and I appreciate you guys listening.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I was actually gonna say, you have a great podcast voice.
• 25:57
  If you ever want to, you know, start a podcast.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Go back then you were saying that on the phone yesterday,
• 26:02
  like a podcast is a great way to make friends.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: You wanted to have deep conversations with people. Literally, I've
• 26:09
  literally been like I've said to peopople, I'd love to
• 26:11
  hang out and they're like, yeah, i'd love to too,
• 26:13
  And I'm like, can you come on my podcast? Like, oh, yeah,
• 26:15
  when do you want me to come on? Like great?
• 26:18
  Like but no, I do believe that podcasts are very
• 26:21
  intimate conversations and it's a chance to go vulnerable, quicker
• 26:26
  and I can ask whatever I feel like on a podcast,
• 26:29
  and sometimes when you're off off camera, off you can't.
• 26:33
  You don't always feel like you can. Yeah, whatever, and
• 26:36
  like so anyway, but yeah.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I love that, love that. Sorry, my add kicked in.
• 26:39
  What was the question again?
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: The question was I'm just trying to I guess there's
• 26:44
  two parts of this question. Let me break it down.
• 26:45
  The first part of the question is what do you
• 26:47
  think people misunderstand about the life of a creator, Like
• 26:51
  I want I want to understand, like how challenging it
• 26:54
  is to do what you've done, like you know, all
• 26:57
  the all the kind of the process it's taken to
• 26:59
  build the social platform. Yeah. And then the second part
• 27:01
  of the question is I want to hear how how
• 27:04
  interesting the transition was from social media to them building
• 27:08
  a show. Yeah, yeah, okay.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: So I will say the life of a creator is
• 27:12
  an interesting one.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: It's you.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: You don't get bored.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Definitely, there is no idle mind, I will say, you are.
• 27:19
  You're constantly working, and it depends what kind of content
• 27:21
  you're creating. Right, So we have vlogs that are out there,
• 27:24
  you have your scripted content that's out there. You have
• 27:26
  just podcasts, I mean you have, you have it all.
• 27:29
  So for myself, I started off doing vlogging and I
• 27:34
  enjoyed that, but I wanted to like build. I wanted
• 27:36
  some kind of like structure, some kind of you know,
• 27:39
  formula method to my madness, if you will. And I
• 27:43
  created all these scripts and all these characters, right, And
• 27:45
  so that was me literally dragging around a tripod in
• 27:48
  my room and finding lighting and just googling everything, how
• 27:51
  do I what camera does what? And what what does this?
• 27:54
  So starting off from scratch and creating kind of my
• 27:56
  own I didn't know what it was but my production company,
• 27:59
  and that's what I was doing. But really for me,
• 28:01
  it was just like creating videos and having fun and
• 28:02
  being this these versions of myself and putting myself out there.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: And little did I realize I was acting too. I
• 28:08
  just didn't know even though.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I was looking at a white like, I just didn't
• 28:11
  know that me looking at a white wall, dressing up
• 28:13
  as a different version of myself was acting until like
• 28:16
  the label was placed whenever I was like, Oh, that's
• 28:18
  why does it feel so familiar when I do this,
• 28:21
  you know, on set with other people.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, because I've been doing this alone in my living room.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: For years, you know, making my own like audition and
• 28:30
  my own reels online. Well, that's what's so cool about
• 28:32
  social media is like you create your own real, your
• 28:34
  own resume online, so you can show the world what
• 28:36
  you can do if placed in another environment or given
• 28:39
  another chance of some sort. So that's what I was
• 28:41
  doing in my own living room and creating that.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: But it takes.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Hours, hours of scripting and making sure the language is
• 28:50
  right and you're trying to get the message across, and
• 28:53
  you know, costume changes on my own and switching into
• 28:56
  those characters.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: And I'm I'm better at night.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised I'm five functioning human right now. During the day,
• 29:01
  I look at that, it's probably because you got blackout curtains.
• 29:03
  It was like, yeah, it feels like now it feels chill.
• 29:06
  But I filmed everything from like probably I'll start at
• 29:09
  like ten pm and go until four am and just
• 29:12
  change into all these different characters because I just like
• 29:14
  was better on and more on a performance.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Mode at night.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: So I did that and then I would go to
• 29:20
  sleep and I would wake up and immediately start editing.
• 29:22
  And editing is the longest process, takes like days days.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: That's why this is so believing.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't have to edit this, really, you
• 29:31
  just got to chopped into these different angles.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Hi, how you doing. Now you're on jay, Now you're
• 29:35
  back home me.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: We're acknowledging the visuals guys, for those of you listening
• 29:40
  to the audio. But yeah, no, I I was, you know,
• 29:44
  taking it took it took a very long time. And
• 29:46
  I think that's what you see a four minute video,
• 29:48
  but what went into that was four days or what
• 29:51
  went into that was a week in that ten minute
• 29:53
  long video. So like, there's a lot that you don't
• 29:56
  see that goes into making this one baby. There's a
• 29:58
  lot of parents, not just yeah, but in this case
• 30:02
  for my channel, it was just me. I was just
• 30:03
  a single parent of all these babies I was making online,
• 30:06
  just taking care and then I got to meet my
• 30:10
  other parents and I got to you know, co create,
• 30:13
  and and that was exciting for me, stepping into a
• 30:16
  different world of creation when it comes to lies on
• 30:18
  demand and you know, stepping into the writer's room and
• 30:22
  being able to work with all these mad geniuses who
• 30:25
  have these stories and ideas and experiences that I get
• 30:29
  to you know, throw into my show and I have
• 30:32
  these bouncing around the ideas and it was just so
• 30:37
  fun to be collaborative creating on what I did online
• 30:40
  was so fun and it was exciting, but it was
• 30:43
  very isolating at the same time. I was on my
• 30:45
  own and I felt like I had to be on
• 30:47
  my own. And that was the rectangle that I had
• 30:49
  to break out of, or the box. I say rectangle
• 30:51
  because that's what you're watching on your phone, right, That's
• 30:53
  how you're watching.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Your little baby movies.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: So that's that was me, you know, breaking out of
• 30:59
  just being this solo act. I did the opposite of
• 31:03
  what Beyonce did. I found my destiny's child. I created my.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Destiny with others and then we made children together.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: So so I got to make this whole show with
• 31:15
  like all these incredible creatives and for them to be
• 31:19
  willing to work with me and put up with me.
• 31:21
  I'm so I'm so lucky because it was it was
• 31:24
  fun to produce and write and be in that writer's
• 31:26
  room for hours instead of alone in my living room
• 31:29
  on the couch, and and and being in production and
• 31:32
  figuring out how we're wanting to do this as a
• 31:34
  team instead of me dragging around that tripod. And they're
• 31:37
  both equally as amazing. And those experiences made me who
• 31:41
  I am and gave me the experience and knowledge that
• 31:43
  I needed to transition over into traditional quote unquote traditional
• 31:47
  because I think everything's just entertainment now, but get this
• 31:49
  traditional digital.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Let's blur that line.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I've always tried to do, no matter
• 31:54
  what I do in my career, Like, I want to
• 31:56
  blur that line like Will Smith's doing, like he's he
• 31:59
  Will Smith is my favorite YouTuber, Like, which is crazy,
• 32:02
  that's wild, right, So to blow that line and just
• 32:05
  call it entertainment, it's exciting. But yeah, all those experiences
• 32:09
  helped me into into this new one. And I'm grateful
• 32:12
  for anybody who's willing to watch and join me on
• 32:14
  the journey as I've off.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. Will all be watching for sure,
• 32:17
  everyone who's listening to work for the views. Yeah, no,
• 32:21
  I think everyone should watch it just because I think
• 32:22
  it's it's what's interesting for all of us, and especially
• 32:25
  those of you who have already been a part of
• 32:27
  your audience for years and those who are new to
• 32:29
  your audience. It's like, I think we're getting the fortune
• 32:33
  of watching creators evolve. Like that's special. Yeah, Like I'm like,
• 32:38
  I'm not meeting you, or like people are not meeting
• 32:40
  you when you got your first big break. People, people
• 32:45
  are being able to watch the whole journey growth, the
• 32:48
  evolution of someone. And I'm like, imagine you got to
• 32:51
  do that with Leonardo DiCaprio. Imagine you got to do
• 32:54
  that with Leonardo Kereb is one of my favorite people
• 32:56
  in the world. Like just like, imagine you got to
• 32:58
  do that with someone, Like you got to watch someone
• 33:00
  grow and evolve and take the next step and you
• 33:03
  know all of that stuff. And I think that's special
• 33:06
  to be able to have that with someone. And so
• 33:08
  when I'm seeing you and I'm like see vine and
• 33:10
  then you see YouTube and then you see like you
• 33:11
  got your own show, and like then you're hosting Nickelodeon.
• 33:14
  It's like you're getting just like we're getting to be
• 33:16
  a part of that. And I think if all of
• 33:18
  us should be making the most of being a part
• 33:20
  of those journeys, because those are stories you get to
• 33:22
  tell in the future. Yeah, those are things that you
• 33:25
  know you can't You can't join someone at their start
• 33:27
  of their journey ever. Again, sure, sure right, and not
• 33:29
  that this is the start of your journey at all,
• 33:31
  but I mean, like, no one's ever going to get
• 33:33
  to be a part of this part of your journey
• 33:35
  without watching it now.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can always go back and watch it
• 33:38
  and see where I came from. And actually, I've never
• 33:39
  deleted anything on Instagram ever.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Ever.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: You can go back to my very first post. You
• 33:43
  can go back to everything that I've ever created. That's
• 33:45
  so find a vine. I didn't have an option. They
• 33:47
  just deleted the whole Thay, they just done.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: You tried, you try to keep it alive.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: I tried to keep it, couldn't.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I went over to YouTube.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, but yeah, no, I it's exciting to see that
• 33:58
  whole journey. And there is something that someone said to
• 34:00
  me that I believe it was someone that worked with
• 34:02
  Nicole Kidman, who was you know, we knew her as
• 34:06
  this movie actress, and then she started doing Big Little Lies,
• 34:09
  and you know, people were hesitant to walk up to
• 34:12
  her as a movie actress, like seeing them you're paying
• 34:14
  to see Nicole Kidman on the big screen, Like there's
• 34:17
  this there's this level of like there's a filter in
• 34:20
  between you and her, like you feel like it's a
• 34:22
  you can't touch her. But then when she was on
• 34:24
  Big Little Lies, she stepped into the living room into
• 34:28
  the homes of so many and apparently people would you know,
• 34:31
  come up to her and say I love your work
• 34:33
  and immediately go in for a hug without asking Nicole Kidman,
• 34:36
  can I give you a hug? And it was just
• 34:39
  immediate connection. And she was confused by it because, you know,
• 34:43
  to go from people not speaking to you for whatever
• 34:48
  reason and then to being a part of their family
• 34:51
  and sitting down and being a part of their story.
• 34:53
  She was shocked by it because there's a level of
• 34:55
  comfort there now now creators, we are with you, we
• 34:59
  are on a toilet with you, we are in bed
• 35:02
  with you. I have slept with people I don't know
• 35:04
  about it is and it's wild to me. How intimate
• 35:08
  that experience is, and how intimate it is to share
• 35:11
  your story your vlogs or whatever. And you're seeing behind
• 35:14
  the curtain more than ever now, So it's exciting. That's
• 35:17
  why all these celebrities too, are wanting to get into
• 35:19
  YouTube and show the process.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: So fingers cross. Leonardo DiCaprio has a.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: YouTube channel now, Yeah, which will save the planet too.
• 35:27
  I mean that would be the best. Yeah, that'd be
• 35:29
  so cool. That'd be so cool. Tell me about you've
• 35:31
  said before that life has been and when I'm I'm
• 35:34
  feeling your energy today and I'm sensing you're in a
• 35:36
  great place, like things are exciting and everything. But you
• 35:39
  have said before, like you know, life is like equal
• 35:41
  pots joy, equal parts pain, truth. Tell me about that,
• 35:44
  Like what does that mean to you and how do
• 35:46
  you process that and how does that help you grow?
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean, you wouldn't know the joy without
• 35:51
  the pain. Like I am, I am full in my
• 35:54
  power right now, and I feel good and I feel
• 35:57
  proud of everything that I've worked on, everything that I
• 35:59
  am gonna have become. But there were many many times
• 36:02
  where I was just living in in shame and and
• 36:06
  you know, spiraling of sorts of like who am I
• 36:10
  and and trying to identify myself and what I am
• 36:13
  and what I'm doing and what I'm meant to do.
• 36:16
  And I feel like that's a description of your twenties.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: So true, so true, Thank you, thank you for.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I really like I'm ready for twenty twenty. I think
• 36:27
  I'm gonna tease a series that I don't even know
• 36:29
  if I'm gonna do it, but I can't wait to
• 36:30
  be like in the twenties, living in the twenties.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I work on it. Editor manifest, please do it.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I know where you are, I know where you live.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Please please do it. Please do it.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I will, I will try it because I.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I really want.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I wish there was some kind of guidance for my
• 36:47
  twenties outside of my sisters who have helped me so much.
• 36:50
  Shout out to them, but yeah, they you know. It's
• 36:53
  it's it's such an interesting time where you're like trying
• 36:56
  to identify yourself, like going through high school again, like
• 36:58
  what what group do you belong to? Do I sit
• 37:01
  at this table? Do I sit at that table? But
• 37:03
  for you, it's the ne yar twenties, and there's no distinguishing,
• 37:05
  Like I'm in high school. Now I'm in college, and
• 37:08
  now that's why I'm not friends with that person because
• 37:09
  we went to different high schools. But now it's just
• 37:11
  like life, and now it's just like, oh, I'm not
• 37:13
  friends with that person because we just we grew apart
• 37:16
  temporarily or maybe maybe.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Just for life.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: And that's okay, because they served a purpose in my
• 37:21
  life at one point and I've learned from them and
• 37:23
  I've loved for them and every experience of them, but
• 37:26
  like no longer does. And so it may be and
• 37:29
  maybe life will bring people back together at some point.
• 37:31
  But I definitely lived in in such shame of myself.
• 37:35
  And that was from unfortunately reading comments online for a
• 37:38
  little bit too, was receiving feedback and quote unquote because
• 37:42
  it's not validating, but quote unquote validating a feeling that
• 37:45
  I was already internally feeling, but from an external source,
• 37:47
  which was all these comments online.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: And I was like, Oh, they're seeing me, they're seeing me.
• 37:52
  I don't want them to see me.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And allowing myself to, you know, feel those feelings and
• 37:58
  lean into those feelings and let myself sit with them
• 38:01
  and figure out why I'm feeling that, what's the root
• 38:03
  of the problem instead of shoving it down even further
• 38:06
  and not allowing myself to feel it because society tells us,
• 38:08
  you know, you can't feel or put out anything but
• 38:11
  being happy. And that's why I'm glad for this. I'm
• 38:13
  so happy for this generation, this younger generation who knows
• 38:17
  and they're learning through media that has become even more
• 38:19
  vulnerable through people like you who have encouraged us to
• 38:23
  allow ourselves to feel every feeling and experience it and
• 38:28
  figure out what exactly is going wrong and what childhood
• 38:32
  trauma did I go through in which that's it's bleeding
• 38:34
  into adulthood and so allowing myself to sit and journal
• 38:39
  and meditate or you know, whatever solutions you may find
• 38:42
  for yourself, like I did that, and I'm glad that's
• 38:45
  what I did in that year too, was give myself
• 38:48
  that time. And I've come out this of the fire
• 38:52
  being this phoenix cal like you're ready to like serve
• 38:58
  the world, because you know, I gave that time and
• 39:00
  I served myself and that's what I want to do
• 39:02
  is be generous of the energy that I've harvested for
• 39:05
  myself and give it to others.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: So but yeah, I definitely.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: There was a time.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: I think it was at the Continuing Conference.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, I remember where I was just I was not
• 39:13
  feeling the utmost to myself and or myselves and I
• 39:19
  it wasn't wasn't my strongest place, but even just sitting
• 39:22
  with you in that moment and you just like kind
• 39:24
  of empowering me and through what I do, I was.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Like, oh, he sees something I don't see right now.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, I see what he sees one day, you know,
• 39:31
  like you were just you were so kind and so
• 39:32
  giving at a time that I really needed it, and
• 39:34
  so I thank you for that.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: My nostrils are flaring.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to hold back tears because there is a
• 39:39
  visual your podcast.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: You can't hear them, shaky voice. But I was grateful
• 39:43
  for that, really, really truly grateful.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: And I was grateful for the strangers that smiled at
• 39:47
  me at a time where I couldn't smile myself. Yeah.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. I
• 39:52
  think it's so important for people to hear that because
• 39:55
  and I loved what you said that. I do think
• 39:57
  that we're at a time when your generation, especially and
• 40:01
  this generation right now, is allowing itself to explore, and
• 40:06
  I think when I remember even with me and I'm
• 40:08
  only you know, a little bit older than you, but yeah,
• 40:11
  all right, I'm But it's like I remember thinking that
• 40:17
  my twenties I was told anyway, my twenties had to
• 40:20
  be when I figured it out, like it was already
• 40:23
  figured out, like by the time you finish college or university,
• 40:26
  you have to have it figured out. And I went
• 40:29
  off and became a monk. So I totally went off,
• 40:31
  Like if there's any way to say I don't agree
• 40:34
  with the system, it's becoming a monk. It's like, you know,
• 40:36
  that's like completely anti s. It's totally rebellious, Like I
• 40:40
  always becoming a monk is one of the most rebellious
• 40:42
  things I could have ever done, because it's totally anti
• 40:45
  the systems and the establishments. Like it's like basically saying
• 40:48
  I don't value material things. And so when I went
• 40:51
  off and did that, I spent and I can and
• 40:53
  that's why I can testify and totally agree with everything
• 40:55
  you're saying. I spent my whole twenties figuring myself out
• 40:59
  and learning. Not that I figured it all out and
• 41:01
  that I'm done now, but at least one phase of
• 41:04
  that cycle was what I dedicated my twenties to. Like,
• 41:08
  I made my first video when I was twenty eight. Wow,
• 41:12
  that was one of my first twenty nine, twenty eight,
• 41:14
  twenty nine, so two three years ago is when I
• 41:15
  made my first video, and that was the first time
• 41:18
  I'd made any piece of media. Yeah, but it was
• 41:22
  coming from a place of I've just spent my twenty
• 41:24
  one to twenty eight just reflecting, thinking, meditating, figuring stuff out, intension, reflecting.
• 41:31
  It wasn't just like, it wasn't just like, oh yeah,
• 41:33
  let's make video. You know. It wasn't like that. And
• 41:34
  I think hearing you say that is so beautiful because
• 41:37
  I think that applies to whenever anyone who's listening or
• 41:41
  watching has that reflection. So if you have that reflection
• 41:43
  at thirty, that's your twenties. If you have that reflection
• 41:46
  at forty, that's your twenties. Yeah. You know, it's like
• 41:49
  there's no number on it, no nine.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: And you're constantly you're forever be a student, Like you're
• 41:53
  constantly learning, and you're constantly like trying to figure out
• 41:57
  You're always trying to figure it out, whatever it may be,
• 42:00
  and to not have it figured out is comforting to
• 42:03
  come to as a solution, at least for me. It's
• 42:05
  not being like, you know what, I don't know. Someone
• 42:07
  asked me what they thought my Someone asked me, what's
• 42:10
  your purpose? What do you think your purpose is?
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I was like, multipurpose.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I might a cleaner of sorts, hardwood floors or glass surfaces, like,
• 42:20
  I don't know. I'm trying to figure that out, Like I.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Don't have it figured out.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: And I'm okay with that. So I think, like I agree.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: That learning and unlearning of what you've learned before, like
• 42:29
  it's it's constantly changing as our world around has changes, right.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: And I think the challenge that we set ourselves up
• 42:35
  for which we're you're doing articulating so well, is when
• 42:39
  we're in the process of reflection, figuring it out, introspection.
• 42:43
  Whatever that may look like, it doesn't have to look
• 42:45
  a certain way. That's the place we're going to be forever. Anyway.
• 42:48
  You just don't want to be in the place of
• 42:49
  either saying, Okay, I found it and I'm done or
• 42:51
  I'm not even going to bother Yeah, to be in
• 42:54
  the process, because I think those both extreams can be
• 42:57
  quite isolating and scary when you're like, Okay, I'm done.
• 43:00
  I know I found my purpose. I found it. And
• 43:02
  I've been at times in my life where I actually
• 43:04
  was on that end where I was like, I know
• 43:05
  exactly what my purpose. I know exactly what I'm doing. Yeah,
• 43:08
  and that also makes you go backwards and then yeah,
• 43:11
  like you don't want to be I look.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: At you and I'm like, oh, he's got to figure
• 43:13
  it out. Like I'm over here cent I'm okay without
• 43:16
  figuring out.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: But Jay, let me tell you about Jay. He's no,
• 43:18
  he knows everything. No, And I'd say, I'm I always
• 43:22
  think life is in percentages, Like I don't think I
• 43:24
  think life is percentages. I don't think life is ever
• 43:27
  one hundred percent or zero percent. It's ninety nine percent,
• 43:29
  it's eighty seven percent, it's ninety three Like everything is proportionate, right,
• 43:34
  It's not like you've got it. There are times in
• 43:36
  my life where I'm like, Okay, I'm ninety five percent
• 43:38
  on track, but there's five percent. I've got to leave
• 43:40
  that space to figure out more and to get to
• 43:42
  the next phase and learn and grow. But if I
• 43:45
  ever go okay, I'm one hundred percent done now then
• 43:47
  it's kind of like, well then I don't need to
• 43:49
  then I don't need to be or do it. It
• 43:50
  can't out totally. Yeah, exactly, your YEA power is like okay,
• 43:53
  it's your time exactly. I think it's just making I
• 43:55
  just want to be always shifting my percentage in the
• 43:57
  right direction, but I don't ever get to a point
• 43:59
  where it's zero or one hundred. Yeah, you know, so
• 44:02
  it's beautiful. I love that. Yeah. I just think like
• 44:04
  life is phases and phases change, and naturally you're going
• 44:07
  to go through different transitions in your life. Yeah, And
• 44:11
  I just think that we we try and get out
• 44:13
  of transitions quickly, but transitions are the time to spend
• 44:17
  time in. Like, that's where you want to spend your
• 44:18
  time is in the transition and get it right, because
• 44:21
  when you rush a transition, you end up at a
• 44:22
  destination you don't want to be at. Right. So, yep, right,
• 44:26
  I don't know you're inspiring me right now. I'm just
• 44:28
  saying this space and I'm just trying to validate what
• 44:31
  I'm hearing you say at twenty three and I'm like,
• 44:33
  I'm thirty one now and I'm listening to you, and
• 44:35
  I'm like, that is exactly what I was doing when
• 44:37
  I was like twenty three, Like I was a monk.
• 44:38
  So you're practically the same you know, the same thing.
• 44:41
  But you know that's what it's what's Wor's month. That's
• 44:44
  where I was, Yeah, in the nails, ylic but no,
• 44:48
  it's the same process. That's what I'm loving hearing about.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, thank you, thank you.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I'm glad.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I mean that's crazy that that that that's a process
• 44:56
  that you have to see your exit maybe say process.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Process, process, process process.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: That's a process, process that you have to go through
• 45:05
  and you never you kind of never stop going through it.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: What percentage would you say you're at today?
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: That's so for me on this, Yeah, this is my podcast,
• 45:16
  this is not I'm definitely in the i'd say in
• 45:21
  the eighties and the nineties, so like, yeah, eighties are
• 45:24
  then argon like yeah, you know eighties or nineties and
• 45:27
  it's getting closer. But I'm never looking for And I
• 45:29
  think you've you said this beautifully like multi purpose. I
• 45:33
  think that's a great. We've got to change the podcast
• 45:35
  name on purpose it's multipersel. But I think that I
• 45:39
  resonate with that, like, I get what you're saying there, right,
• 45:42
  I think that what you do. Yeah, And I think
• 45:45
  that your purpose should always evolve, because if it's not
• 45:48
  evolving and you're not giving it space to grow and
• 45:50
  change and deepen, then then you're just stuck doing one
• 45:55
  thing or believing one thing that you only should do,
• 45:58
  that you only should do and be and achieve one thing.
• 46:01
  And then I'm just like, but that's not real and
• 46:03
  I've not seen the greats do that, and I've not
• 46:05
  seen people I admire do that, and and also I
• 46:07
  just don't think that's realistic. So but I feel very
• 46:10
  on purpose. And that's why I call the podcast on
• 46:12
  purpose is because I always want to feel. Am I
• 46:14
  on purpose? Like? Am I going in the right direction?
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: You know? Is?
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: You know? And that's how I feel. But my life
• 46:19
  is very on purpose and everything's intentional, but it's not
• 46:23
  all figured out. And I think, you know, you can
• 46:25
  figure out the intention, but you can't that you can't
• 46:28
  define it, you can't expect a result. Yes, you know,
• 46:31
  does that make sense? If any of that makes sense?
• 46:33
  But insane is that you say the most profound, prolific things.
• 46:37
  You're like did that make sense? No, but I'm exerious
• 46:40
  because I'm just flowing and saying stuff and I'm like,
• 46:42
  this is the flow. Oh, the flow made sense.
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: I'm so glad you record, Like I'm glad it's being
• 46:47
  recorded so you know you can look back and be like,
• 46:49
  I'm a genius.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: That was a good episode.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: This is a good episode because of you. But the
• 46:55
  other thing that really that stuck out to me was
• 46:58
  this whole process that I was thinking about of. You
• 47:02
  have often mentioned that you even experienced like social anxiety, right,
• 47:08
  and you talk about it a lot, you address it
• 47:10
  a lot, and I think when people first see you
• 47:12
  and like what you're saying about me, like when I
• 47:14
  see you and again what you've done is like you're like,
• 47:16
  oh no, but Liz is like confident, like she's got
• 47:19
  to figure out and the saying what you're saying about me,
• 47:20
  like when you see me like a Jay's got it
• 47:22
  figured out. And it's like I think when people hear us,
• 47:24
  like when I'm like, no, actually it's percentages and I'm
• 47:26
  figuring it out. It's not only good for everyone to
• 47:29
  hear that. It's good for me to know that, but
• 47:31
  for you to say, hey, I'm a social media person,
• 47:33
  but I've actually explained social anxiety, like walk me through
• 47:38
  when you feel comfortable saying that, but more importantly, like
• 47:43
  what have you seen has helped you with that? Or
• 47:45
  how have you managed that?
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Man? Oh man, good question. That's dupe. Okay, we'll.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: We're back after this short commercial break. That's actually thirty
• 47:57
  bit a song. No, I believe I'm trying to pinpoint
• 48:01
  the exact moment where I became comfortable. I think I
• 48:03
  made a video about anxiety and it was my you know,
• 48:06
  kind of like my social thoughts, and it was very
• 48:08
  like surface level of you know, I was trying to
• 48:09
  bring humor, integrating humor into actual like social anxiety commentary
• 48:14
  or social commentary, and it was it was tough for me.
• 48:18
  You know, it got especially interesting or controversial in the
• 48:20
  comments because people were like, that's not anxiety, or that's
• 48:22
  not how I experienced anxiety. And we all experience it
• 48:24
  in different ways, right, there's different different I don't even
• 48:28
  want to say levels, because not no level is worse
• 48:30
  than the other, because there's it's just your own experience
• 48:33
  and it's your interpretation of life or social interactions or
• 48:37
  you know, some people have anxiety about death, and like
• 48:39
  I've talked about many different types of anxiety, but I
• 48:42
  think that was the moment in which I thought comfortable
• 48:46
  and appropriate in a time for me to speak out
• 48:48
  about it, was creating that video. But I do have
• 48:51
  social anxiety, and I think speaking about it and even
• 48:54
  hearing your people like yourself who appear to have it
• 48:56
  all figured out, just like I even said, no, Jay
• 48:58
  knows everything. To hear that that you do or experience
• 49:02
  anxiety or nerves disarms people and it just allows them.
• 49:06
  It humanizes you and allows you to know that you
• 49:09
  experience these other emotions outside of the confidence that I also.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Emit.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: And it's what I strive to do. It's to show
• 49:17
  people that can feel confident no matter what situation. But
• 49:21
  my social anxiety definitely became like even social media anxiety,
• 49:24
  and I was scared to put myself out there online,
• 49:28
  which I was scared to put in which I was
• 49:29
  scared to put myself out there in real life, and
• 49:33
  it kind of went hand in hand. And I will say,
• 49:35
  with like my social anxiety, I even was nervous coming
• 49:38
  here today, I'm even nervous. I fluctuate and flow just
• 49:41
  throughout the course of this podcast, I'm like, yo, I
• 49:43
  said that and that was dope. Wait, no, I can't
• 49:45
  say anything that top step. I have to I have
• 49:47
  to have something else more profound. I gotta whip out
• 49:49
  Google real quick and quote Gandhi real fast or something.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: I need to peak.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Like there's waves ebb.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: And flow of your mind and so many thoughts happen
• 49:59
  per second or minute. And you know, I've I with
• 50:03
  my social anxiety, I also have a little bit of
• 50:05
  de realization where I do realize and I questioned reality.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: I think that's my like creative side of my brain
• 50:11
  going and being like is this real?
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: That's the curR oft there and you're like, what was
• 50:15
  then my drink earlier?
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Just like you know, you have ebb and flow of
• 50:19
  like confidence and then lowered confidence, and that can happen
• 50:22
  within the span of five minutes or a couple of
• 50:24
  days or a couple of years. And you know, you
• 50:27
  you might stay down low for a little bit, but
• 50:28
  the fact that you know you can come back up
• 50:30
  and and when you are low, to know to think
• 50:32
  of times where you felt high and to experience that
• 50:35
  that gratitude that you you know you can feel that happy.
• 50:39
  That's what I cling onto most. You cling on to most.
• 50:42
  You can't feel any other feeling but gratitude when experience
• 50:46
  experience and gratitude. And I'm so thankful for that because
• 50:48
  in my times of darkness, I just feel grateful that
• 50:51
  I know what light feels like.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: And so that's that's what I hold on to at
• 50:55
  all times.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: But I forgot the question again, no answer, how was
• 51:00
  the ev and for right there just.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Being like I think I said that. That's like they
• 51:03
  like saying, does that make sense? Do you give what
• 51:06
  I'm saying for those words? Yeah? Yeah, because in my
• 51:10
  mind it just sounded like random words together. No, No,
• 51:13
  you have answered the question. I think that's I love
• 51:16
  the way that you even brought it into this podcast,
• 51:18
  and I think that's why we look to make We
• 51:21
  try to have shorter phone calls, we try to message
• 51:24
  people instead of meet them. Like this is all part
• 51:26
  of that anxiety, because trying to be interesting for a
• 51:29
  long period of time is tough, Like you know, we
• 51:32
  or we we put that pressure on ourselves of like
• 51:35
  oh crap, like I don't think I can go on
• 51:36
  this date because I'm going to be interesting for thirty
• 51:38
  minutes on a date, whereas if I just message her
• 51:41
  or him, then that's gonna, you know, whatever it is.
• 51:43
  And so I feel like we avoid And I think
• 51:46
  just the fact that you just mentioned sitting you're right now,
• 51:49
  you are sitting on a podcast talking about how you've
• 51:52
  felt anxiety on this podcast, right and the ebbs and flows,
• 51:56
  And I think that's awesome because I think the beautiful
• 51:59
  thing is that when we lean away from our anxiety,
• 52:02
  that's when it gets scary because we just ignore it.
• 52:04
  We try to bury it, we try like push it away.
• 52:06
  But when you lean into it and you're like, oh,
• 52:08
  I can see you, like I see you, I'm aware
• 52:10
  of you, and I know when I feel you and
• 52:13
  when you appear in my life, and I know that
• 52:15
  gratitude is going to help me. And how do you
• 52:18
  recall those grateful moments of you feeling that light? Is that?
• 52:21
  Have you written them down? Do you have a do
• 52:22
  you have an amazing memory where you're remembering them? Is
• 52:25
  it is it something you're wearing, Like earlier you're talking
• 52:27
  about the T shirt with the yeah, you know, be humble,
• 52:30
  be brave, Be humble, be brave.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: And I have a lot of like shirts like that
• 52:33
  that like something just like wearing all these colors makes
• 52:37
  me feel bright, like it's kind of like a costume
• 52:40
  depending that helps me feel what I'm feeling on the
• 52:42
  inside and kind of accentuates that. So yes, I do
• 52:44
  wear like a lot of shirts that say like be grateful,
• 52:46
  be humble, be this, be that, just as a reminder
• 52:49
  to me and anybody who's you know, receptive to reading
• 52:52
  my shirt, whoever has really good eyed psych sometimes really
• 52:56
  tiny and minimalistic and aesthetic in the.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Middle of your shirt.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: But no, I I have.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: I have a journal. I journal a lot. I journal.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I also do the most millennial thing where I video
• 53:09
  diary and I make videos, and I make videos in
• 53:12
  my time of even darkness where I kind of like
• 53:14
  get analytical and explain to myself how I'm feeling.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: These the videos we're seeing or you make these vide
• 53:19
  That's what I'm saying. I've seen videos you've put out
• 53:21
  I'm just.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, and those are my Those are my more
• 53:24
  like lighthearted videos obviously that I put out there into
• 53:27
  the world.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: But I do have these like very.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Intense videos where I'm like trying to figure out why
• 53:31
  I feel a certain way. And it's just for me
• 53:33
  to kind of have it's like a personal video, but
• 53:35
  I'm constantly making concept. It's just a matter of whether
• 53:38
  or not you see it. But for me, it allows
• 53:41
  me to like emotionally release because you know, I think
• 53:44
  I don't think any millennial is good handwriting.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: We just we do not pick up pens or paper pens.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: The books in here are freaking me out because the
• 53:52
  amount of paper cuts that could happen. It's a dangerous
• 53:54
  place we're in right now, guys. But like I have,
• 53:56
  I don't journal as much as I do video journal,
• 54:00
  guess or I make these own my own versions of
• 54:03
  podcasts that I'll never release, but they're they are audio
• 54:07
  audio of me just like working things out, and and
• 54:10
  I see myself slowly get to like a place of
• 54:13
  comfort and and positivity and light again, you know, as
• 54:16
  I you know, work through you know, the feelings of
• 54:18
  darkness kind of.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: Things, so I eventually get myself back. But it is
• 54:22
  it's a lot of reminders.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: It's your posts.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: It's literally your posts that remind me and feed me.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Because I even said before that your feed can sometimes
• 54:30
  star view of reality of what real life is. Because
• 54:33
  we're constantly scrolling and looking down and like you're looking down?
• 54:37
  How can you not feel down?
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: That's you know and so right.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: You feel down when you're looking down at somebody else
• 54:44
  live their life and you're you're busy watching.
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: So I you know, I I've fed my feed when
• 54:51
  I was going through that time to uh make sure
• 54:53
  I had that that positive and perspective you know, from
• 54:57
  others who are willing to share their stories. And I knew,
• 55:00
  you know this is my problems are so small and
• 55:03
  everything what I'm going through is yes, my reality, but
• 55:07
  it's so small in comparison to like how big the
• 55:09
  world is and there's so much to see and love
• 55:11
  and experience.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: So yeah, those are such practical tips. I love that. No,
• 55:16
  I think the video journal is is such a great idea.
• 55:20
  I personally prefer audio and video journals to written ones. Really, yeah,
• 55:23
  I actually do because A, I think you're right that
• 55:26
  the handwriting point definitely, but also just be the patience
• 55:29
  to build a written life, I think because we've not
• 55:32
  been used to it growing up, especially your generation, even
• 55:35
  more so the younger millennials. Yeah, and it's we're not
• 55:38
  used to it as much so being able to talk
• 55:40
  it out. And also what I think is really powerful
• 55:42
  is when you talk it out and then you listen
• 55:45
  as if you're listening to someone else, that you can
• 55:48
  then hear your problems from a more objective point of view. Yah,
• 55:51
  And so I actually think what you're saying is perfect.
• 55:53
  I think doing video or audio recordings are such a
• 55:56
  brilliant way of journaling, and I think you can hear
• 55:58
  yourself and your voice and when you talk it out.
• 56:00
  It's like, I think that's such a small move, and
• 56:03
  I've not had many people say that, but I definitely
• 56:06
  feel it's I definitely feel that's a huge, huge thing.
• 56:08
  I recommend anyone who's listening and watching right now, if
• 56:11
  you've struggled with journaling in a written form, please take
• 56:14
  Lysa's tip on doing audio and visual journals. And it's
• 56:18
  such a great thing to be easily looked back upon.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, Jay's tip too, because you do it
• 56:22
  as well, which is it's nice. It's sometimes I will
• 56:24
  go back and I'll watch myself like not in my power,
• 56:27
  and I'm like, I want to give her a hug,
• 56:29
  And that's the most like feeling of self compassion.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: You got to remind yourself of too. It's like, oh,
• 56:33
  like it's okay.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: Girls can be all right.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Like I promise you, I'm here right now, and everything
• 56:37
  inevitably turned out just okay, you are going to be
• 56:41
  just fine. And then I also make videos for myself
• 56:43
  where I am fully in my power and feeling confident
• 56:46
  and make a video saying, yo, this, remind yourself of this.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: You just girl right here and like that looks like
• 56:52
  I was making the TikTok plug TikTok. That's great.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: But like I'll make videos like that even just to
• 57:00
  remind myself in times of when I'm feeling not so
• 57:03
  not so hot, and I'll go watch that and be like.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know she exists. I get back to her,
• 57:07
  she said, within me at all times.
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Cool, it's nice, yeah, to remind her exactly. You mentioned
• 57:13
  earlier that you've learned a few things from your oldest sisters. Yeah,
• 57:16
  you mentioned thank your sisters. Tell me about some of
• 57:19
  the things you've learned from both of them. They warned
• 57:21
  me about the twenties. That's good.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: They were in the twenties, yeah, sistery, Yeah, I like that.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: My god, that's like a good book.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I They warned me about twenties being
• 57:34
  at tough time, and I was eighteen, was like, well, I.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Went through whatever I needed to go through because I'm fine,
• 57:40
  don't worry. I got to figure it out. Then twenty like.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Bick, oh, it's funny.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I actually went in for this sidebar as always with
• 57:47
  my attention deficit disorder. But I went in to get
• 57:50
  tested for attention deficit disorder and they told me you.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: You don't have ady D. No, we can't give you
• 57:56
  any medication for that, but.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: You have anxiety.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Good luck. That was it.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: That was the end of that doctor's appointment, and I
• 58:02
  was like what I was eighteen. I was like what, Like,
• 58:05
  I don't know what you mean. Then twenty twentieth birthday
• 58:08
  hit me and I had the utmost anxiety. I had
• 58:11
  just moved out to LA I was experiencing all this
• 58:14
  new life experiences for the first time, and anxiety just
• 58:17
  like came at me. So it was it was definitely them,
• 58:20
  you know, warnying me about the twenties and then just
• 58:24
  allowing they told me that, Like I think my middle
• 58:26
  sister Olivia told me that things are just like temporary,
• 58:29
  like you have to understand that there's a lot. That's
• 58:31
  that's temporary. So with that knowledge, no, to appreciate the
• 58:35
  moment when it's there and be very very present when
• 58:38
  it stay.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: I have the ultimate goal.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Another sidebar, dogs are amazing. That seemed random, but dots video.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: My brain had to like run from like my left
• 58:49
  hand side of my brain to the right hand side
• 58:51
  to be like.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: What on the sidebar, I'm having sushi tonight, but like
• 58:55
  sidebar the dogs saying it's because dogs are so present,
• 58:58
  they're so there's were just there, they were there with
• 59:02
  you at any moment. They just want to love and
• 59:04
  be loved and that's that's all they do. So I
• 59:06
  just whenever I say present, like if you need a
• 59:09
  grounding presence, it's a dog sometimes. So that's another tip.
• 59:12
  If you just go find a dog, go to an
• 59:13
  adoption place and go pet one. Just be present with
• 59:15
  that moment. But yeah, with that information that things are temporary,
• 59:19
  to know that it's not this is this moment doesn't
• 59:23
  define you, it's not who you are, and and that
• 59:26
  this two shot pass and then also temporary it being
• 59:30
  like experience that would be grateful that you're there and
• 59:32
  and and so that that's when I took away from
• 59:34
  my sisters.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, both of them.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: That's beautiful.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: Actually talk a lot crap about them.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: So this is good. This is good. Just before family holidays,
• 59:43
  Family holiday and one and half weeks.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: By the way, they're all such like my whole family
• 59:48
  is like such a big fan of yours. I'm trying
• 59:50
  to figure out the right moments to geek out at
• 59:53
  the next wedding. We're both brown. We're about to end
• 59:55
  up at the same wedding at some point.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: I hope I'm not striving. You're like a all the
• 1:00:00
  shared brown, Like I'm not sure, like if you get
• 1:00:02
  a cooler wedding.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: So yeah, there's fifty shades of brown at every wedding.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: I'm tanned right now too, So this is not this
• 1:00:08
  is not the real me you were going on. No,
• 1:00:12
  I'd love to meet them, like I genuinely loved me,
• 1:00:14
  love me. It would be amazing, Like it would be
• 1:00:16
  so nice. I love meeting people's families because I think,
• 1:00:19
  you know, like you took such a big move to
• 1:00:21
  move away from your family, Like I know it was
• 1:00:23
  hard doing it twenty eight as an overall, I mean
• 1:00:26
  I left earlier when I went to university and became
• 1:00:28
  a monk and stuff. But yeah, I think like you
• 1:00:30
  leaving at nineteen twenty to come to La. Yeah, like
• 1:00:34
  La is a big, crazy place, but it seems like
• 1:00:38
  you've attracted the right people around you here. Like I
• 1:00:41
  feel like you've kind of you've built a unit or
• 1:00:44
  a squad of people that you feel very happy around.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, understand me and I understand them.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: How did you get to want to figure out who
• 1:00:50
  was right to have around you? Like? How did you
• 1:00:52
  get Because I don't think I don't believe people are
• 1:00:54
  good or bad. I just think there's right people to
• 1:00:55
  have around you, and there's times when it's not the
• 1:00:57
  right people to have around you. But how did you
• 1:00:58
  get a sense of figure out who you wanted around you?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: What was it?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: That was I mean there's like this almost instinctual, like
• 1:01:06
  gut feeling of just like energy and like sounds like
• 1:01:09
  such an LA word, but vabes bro like vives of
• 1:01:13
  that that you get from a person, and you just
• 1:01:15
  know that that's that those are your people. You feel
• 1:01:17
  the utmost sense of comfort and strength even within the
• 1:01:20
  first interaction, in the first minute of meeting them, and
• 1:01:22
  you're like, oh you you are someone I want around
• 1:01:25
  because you you keep me in my power and you
• 1:01:28
  believe in it even if I don't. And that's what
• 1:01:31
  Courtney Courtney Carter my manager CMG, love you, Courtney.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: You're listening, girl. She's proud of me. She's see her
• 1:01:38
  up right now, She's like, well, she's being real vulnerable.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: She you know, she is my my manager, but also
• 1:01:44
  like just like my partner in crime, my producing partner,
• 1:01:46
  my my like best one of my best friends, and
• 1:01:49
  like I spent so many moments with her like uh
• 1:01:51
  that I'm I'm so grateful for her period.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: She's awesome.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: She's amazing, and like you even you even know in
• 1:01:58
  the the going to dinner with her, like you just
• 1:02:01
  you just know how much of a grounding, empowering person
• 1:02:04
  she is and what a present she is when she
• 1:02:06
  walks into the room. So I, you know, meeting her
• 1:02:10
  one of the first days that I was out in
• 1:02:13
  LA and it was just by chance, by fate, by destiny,
• 1:02:17
  by everything, the stars aligning and just me meeting her
• 1:02:21
  and finding like my left brain. Yeah, I say, I'm
• 1:02:24
  the right brain. I get to be all creative and
• 1:02:26
  crazy and we're all these colors. And then she is
• 1:02:28
  the left brain who keeps me, keeps me a line
• 1:02:30
  and supports me and like tells me this is logical
• 1:02:32
  and this is not.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, because I was being emotional.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: I loved that you had her and she had you. Yeah,
• 1:02:39
  like I loved it. Like I've said that to a
• 1:02:41
  million times. I was like, I'm so glad that someone
• 1:02:43
  as amazing as Eliza is with you. And I'm so
• 1:02:47
  glad that Liza has someone like you, you know, both
• 1:02:49
  ways around. Like I just think it's awesome and I
• 1:02:51
  think that it's it's so important what you just said,
• 1:02:55
  Like whether it's left and right brain or the right souls,
• 1:02:57
  but whatever it is, like however you want to word it,
• 1:03:00
  it's so important to have those complimentary people around us
• 1:03:03
  because it's hard to find. It's not easy at all,
• 1:03:06
  and to have found it on your first day. Yeah,
• 1:03:09
  I mean that's insane, insane.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's someone's looking out for me.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying I think that's beautiful.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: Guy's been working man, and he brought many many angels
• 1:03:18
  into my life. So I'm thankful for it.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: And she introduced me. I think I can't remember I'm
• 1:03:23
  a fake fan, right, now, but she.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: Introduced me to you.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I think and and and that's like that was just
• 1:03:29
  it's also those people that introduced it even more good
• 1:03:31
  people that it's just the chain reaction of goodness and
• 1:03:34
  and and becomes like this whole family that you you know,
• 1:03:38
  you got to choose and and and I'm just lucky.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: I'm just really really lucky.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful to hear that you deserve it. Thank you,
• 1:03:46
  very happy for you. You deserve it.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: And I only want more amazing people to come and
• 1:03:51
  find you and be with you.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: And I wish you the same, and I curse you
• 1:03:54
  with all happy people in your life, good people.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: I want to dive in more in to the show specifically. Yeah,
• 1:04:01
  I had the next season because I think it's exciting
• 1:04:05
  from a viewers point of view. I'm sure it's exciting
• 1:04:07
  from a creative Like you said, the budgets got better.
• 1:04:09
  Everyone's gonna get to see you wear less clothes, which
• 1:04:12
  is interesting and intriguing.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Like we got a good editor. Yeah, that editor has
• 1:04:17
  fully seen me. But we do have a good editor
• 1:04:19
  who censored everything. So don't worry, you're getting the taste.
• 1:04:21
  There's some left up to the mystery.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: I ra it, tell us, tell us about what has
• 1:04:27
  evolved in your character in the season two, Like, what
• 1:04:29
  are we exciting to see about your character?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: I'm excited because it's just kind of it isn't a
• 1:04:35
  reflection of my own personal life. So like Liza in
• 1:04:37
  the show has gone on many or is going on dates,
• 1:04:41
  and like is going out and like ooh, she like
• 1:04:44
  taking of boys and stuff.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: I'm working on that in real life. I don't have
• 1:04:48
  any dating apps.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: I'm not your average millennial.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: But meeting people organically just going to coffee shops and
• 1:04:54
  just ordering from the barista.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Like, hello, how are you go to coffee shops? No,
• 1:05:01
  I can't. I totally cant. I totally can.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: It's really fun. Like I love meeting everybody that I
• 1:05:05
  run into a person.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: It's cool.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I gotta try to find me a man
• 1:05:09
  in a coffee shop.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: But no, I head over to the coffee Starbucks on
• 1:05:14
  the broil.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: But but no, I I think for Eliza on the show,
• 1:05:19
  she's you know, she's romantically evolving and like allowing her
• 1:05:22
  or emotionally evolving and allowing herself to go on these
• 1:05:24
  days and like have fun. She is a little bit
• 1:05:28
  more established in her career, and so it's it's her
• 1:05:32
  becoming comfortable with what she's doing and and and being
• 1:05:36
  confident in what she's doing and there's more clarity for her.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Uh, she's just having fun. Like she's just like she
• 1:05:42
  like knows what she's up to now and she's like, Okay,
• 1:05:44
  now it's gonna.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Like just go boss to the wall or overst to
• 1:05:48
  the wall. People with with with whatever she's doing. So
• 1:05:50
  she's just having fun.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: I love that fun.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: I love that you mentioned career there is evolving. Do
• 1:05:56
  you feel like the show has helped you found like
• 1:05:57
  a newfound respect for like Uber drivers and postmait delivery
• 1:06:00
  people by playing the role Oh.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank you for your service everyone out there.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, literally, because those those are the those a connective
• 1:06:08
  tissue of my life, Postmates bringing me some food. It's
• 1:06:13
  crazy what we do, man, we hire personal assistance to
• 1:06:16
  these apps. We are so lazy and also the most
• 1:06:18
  hard working generation I know. Like right, little slapped to
• 1:06:23
  the face and then I'll give you a sport. Yeah,
• 1:06:25
  but like it's it's wild, like how we hire these
• 1:06:29
  people to do these do these jobs for us, for
• 1:06:32
  us to go about our day and it's insane, but
• 1:06:35
  they're I've always had the best uber conversations and I
• 1:06:38
  always like get to know them and they have many
• 1:06:41
  parts themselves too. So like a lot of people, I've
• 1:06:43
  seen like a printed IMDb sheet in the back of
• 1:06:47
  somebody's like Uber No, yeah, He's like, yeah, I booked
• 1:06:51
  a couple of jobs just by having my head shots
• 1:06:53
  here in the backseat, and like I was like, oh,
• 1:06:55
  that's cool. Ono. The woman had her daughter's headshots in
• 1:06:58
  the backseat, and the guy was selling his mixtape and
• 1:07:00
  I was like, yeah, respect, I'm not good bye, but.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Dollars. Yeah, you got an audio down. No one has
• 1:07:08
  a CD. I have a CD player for this.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: But but there's I mean, there's so many people and
• 1:07:13
  they're all out there hustling. So I appreciate, like thank
• 1:07:17
  them for what they do because I need them in
• 1:07:19
  my life.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your person for getting into character? Like I'm
• 1:07:22
  intrigued because you've played so many different characters in your
• 1:07:24
  own world that you explained you play this new character,
• 1:07:27
  like when I saw you win the streaming last year,
• 1:07:29
  Like your award acceptance speech is just the best. So
• 1:07:32
  if anyone's not seen her go and find the video
• 1:07:34
  on YouTube. It's up, and I'm going to give it
• 1:07:38
  away anyway, spoiler a lot. But Liza literally starts it off,
• 1:07:42
  and I was like, wow, she is so sweet and
• 1:07:45
  adorable and like you know she she was like getting emotional,
• 1:07:49
  she was crying for winning this award, and then she
• 1:07:51
  switches it on like the Assassin turns on, the kind
• 1:07:55
  of like the beast comes out beast. Yeah, And I
• 1:07:59
  loved and I was just like like, well, how do
• 1:08:02
  you get into character? Like what do you do? What's
• 1:08:04
  your process?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Oh man, you're uh man, I'm trying to figure I'm
• 1:08:11
  not I'm not no, uh, daniel day Lewis.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not Danielle day Lewis.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do not.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: I do not stay method and character or anything like that.
• 1:08:18
  But I was I guess you could say a little
• 1:08:20
  bit method this season in terms of my roommates who
• 1:08:25
  I cast last season a year ago, and I remember
• 1:08:29
  them stepping in and taking skype calls with them and
• 1:08:32
  like casting them, they became my roommates.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: In real life this year. No way, he go plan
• 1:08:38
  if you don't movie ou stuff out of my room.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: But she's still living with me to this day. At
• 1:08:42
  this moment.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: And and Travis Coles, who's also he also has an
• 1:08:46
  amazing show Alcohol David mixed Man over went for his network.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: I'm so excited for him.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Miko two just they're two brilliant beasts. And
• 1:08:53
  I didn't know I was casting my roommates, my real roommates,
• 1:08:56
  let alone people who became my best friends, and like,
• 1:08:58
  I'm so lucky and that's ad too, but it was
• 1:09:00
  the same, like energetic energy. And I met them too,
• 1:09:04
  I'm just like, oh, yeah, yeah, you're gonna have to
• 1:09:06
  get used to you. You're gonna be around for a while.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: So I put up with them.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: And by around, I mean they're right next door between
• 1:09:13
  the thin wall that I have. My house is structurally sound,
• 1:09:16
  we're doing well, but either are right next door in
• 1:09:19
  the other rooms. And we would go home every night,
• 1:09:22
  read our lines together, memorize together like candles, and like
• 1:09:27
  do squats in the same It was the most ridiculously
• 1:09:30
  la thing when I looked in my living room and
• 1:09:32
  we were running lines and doing squats and eating dinner
• 1:09:35
  together because we had to get it all done at once,
• 1:09:37
  because we shoot like fourteen pages a day, which is
• 1:09:40
  like a gnarly amount of content to make in one day.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: So it was just it was fun. It was really fun.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: It was really crazy. I don't have a family that's
• 1:09:48
  not off. That's not common, right, is it common for
• 1:09:51
  people who are on screen to go and become really
• 1:09:53
  really good friends in real life? I've heard from Yeah,
• 1:09:56
  what have you had? I'm intrigued. I mean I'm I'm friendly.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: I make friends with like I do my best Like, yeah,
• 1:10:03
  friends with But.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: I'm intrigued because you always wonder that, right, Like when
• 1:10:06
  you see on screen romance or chemistry and people are like, oh,
• 1:10:09
  I wish they were to get in real life and like,
• 1:10:11
  but even with friends, Like is that comedy? What have
• 1:10:13
  you heard? I've heard that that.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: No, it's a it's a lucky professional Yeah, serious fortunate events. Again,
• 1:10:19
  if if you become friends real life friends with your
• 1:10:23
  with your friends on screen, and so it helps the
• 1:10:25
  chemistry all the more too, like like we're on the clock,
• 1:10:29
  but we're also just like in the house just hanging out,
• 1:10:32
  and it's cool to like have that real life chemistry
• 1:10:36
  with them.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: So I love hope it shows on.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: No, And I think that's special. I definitely think that
• 1:10:40
  I think It's the same in sport, like if you're
• 1:10:42
  playing on a team and you don't if you're not
• 1:10:46
  really friends with the people you're playing with. I mean, like,
• 1:10:49
  you can do the right thing, but it makes a
• 1:10:51
  difference how much you're gonna enjoy when you score, how
• 1:10:53
  much you're gonna enjoy you know all of that. I
• 1:10:55
  think it affects the performance for sure, because you're gonna
• 1:10:57
  be there. How how long are you recording every day? Oh? Truth?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: By the way, I was saying, yeah, all that, but
• 1:11:01
  I have no idea anything about sports.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: So I was just like, yeah, well you do. You
• 1:11:04
  just you just had the Nike thing, a Nike thing
• 1:11:07
  at VidCon that was awful. You were playing football soccer,
• 1:11:11
  You're playing real football.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: I was, and it was an interesting take on it.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: I was like, he thinks I get this right now,
• 1:11:21
  he thinks I understand. Keep nodding your head, smile and wave,
• 1:11:23
  smile and wave.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: I I was so bad.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: I like, I had no idea how to play soccer before,
• 1:11:28
  and they didn't tell me I was playing a full game.
• 1:11:30
  I thought I was just doing warm ups. So I
• 1:11:32
  went into a for context. I went into a game
• 1:11:34
  of soccer at Nike or with Nike at VidCon, and
• 1:11:38
  just like I feel like.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: I was verd.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: I was really really.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Especially because Courtney's so good soccer players.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: And she was looking at me with, well, you know,
• 1:11:47
  you can't all be good at things, you know.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: No, But I think that's the point I was making
• 1:11:52
  sports aside was I do think that chemistry of real
• 1:11:56
  friendship shows on the screen, and I think that's beautiful
• 1:11:59
  because how many days I was asking how many hours
• 1:12:01
  are you filming per day?
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: We film?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: When you're filming, how long does it take to create
• 1:12:06
  a little over.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: We'll go over twelve hours sometimes in one day. That's
• 1:12:09
  normal filming day in Hollywood and industry. It's like twelve hours.
• 1:12:13
  And then if you go over that, you go into
• 1:12:14
  overtime kind of.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Thing, and you're in your little trailer in between.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: No, not really, No, it's like I'm in most scenes.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: I jump from one scene, Okay, we wrap that scene,
• 1:12:23
  we'll go straight into the next area and film that.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: But it's twelve hours. You're spending twelve hours with these people.
• 1:12:28
  It's great, and they're your friends. Yep, it's really nice.
• 1:12:31
  You're nice. It's a little awkward, but no, I'm lucky.
• 1:12:34
  I'm lucky.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: We had so many conversations off camera on set, so
• 1:12:37
  it was really cool.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: I love that. I'm so excited to see how things
• 1:12:40
  are evolving and growing for you. I'm so glad that
• 1:12:43
  I've met you now and I've got to know you now.
• 1:12:45
  I'm like, yeah, I do wish I knew you were eighteen,
• 1:12:47
  but our Brown families didn't figure it out. But no,
• 1:12:51
  I'm glad that I've met you now because I'm just
• 1:12:53
  so excited to see everything you do. Like I just
• 1:12:55
  think you're going to have this incredible personal and professional
• 1:12:59
  life decades and decades and decades, and I'm just so
• 1:13:03
  excited to be your friend and be there with you
• 1:13:05
  throughout the journey and just see it just grow and
• 1:13:07
  excel even more and more and more. Like you're gonna
• 1:13:09
  do incredible things. And I think both from a professional
• 1:13:12
  point of view, but I think also from like the
• 1:13:14
  stuff you so effortlessly stand for. I think that's what's
• 1:13:18
  so powerful about is that you so effortlessly stand for
• 1:13:20
  things Like I saw your clean beauty thing recently, Oh
• 1:13:22
  thank you, and I was just like, you know, it's
• 1:13:24
  like I want you to talk about that, but I
• 1:13:25
  was just like when I saw that, I was just like,
• 1:13:26
  you're so effortlessly can stand for so many things because
• 1:13:30
  they're just a part of you rather than having to
• 1:13:31
  be an activist or how do you how do you
• 1:13:36
  see that responsibility that comes with having lots of yeah,
• 1:13:39
  following an audience versus like just doing what feels natural.
• 1:13:42
  How have you kind of balanced that?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like activism or you know, whatever it
• 1:13:48
  may be, doesn't I support. I mean, anybody who is
• 1:13:51
  standing up for something just to do that alone is
• 1:13:53
  just courage and bravery and and self But for me,
• 1:13:56
  it's just more so like the way I was raised,
• 1:13:58
  the foundation I was raised, and you know, the morale
• 1:14:01
  that I was raised on, and being you know, eco
• 1:14:03
  friendly as much as as well as I possibly can.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: It's hard to do me.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of blasting it is.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love a good coaster, and like you.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Know, there's like there's there's many things that I appreciate
• 1:14:15
  and embody and hope to do that even with this
• 1:14:18
  clean beauty brand that is all natural ingredients, organic, Like
• 1:14:21
  the story behind that is that is what I'm looking
• 1:14:23
  forward to sharing even more. But like I had Eggsmo
• 1:14:25
  growing up and Molosco, which if you don't know what
• 1:14:27
  that is, yeah, everybody did. We had rough patches and
• 1:14:31
  like literal rough patches. We went through those rough patches
• 1:14:34
  and now we found found out like over time, after
• 1:14:36
  many like product dating and testing, you you figure out what.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: Works for your skin.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: And some people are like, yeah, I just wash it
• 1:14:43
  with water and like you discuss me get out you
• 1:14:46
  saving so much money?
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Damn you.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: But like you, I started using the same wand which
• 1:14:51
  was is the beauty brand and it's it's an amazing
• 1:14:53
  brand that just all natural ingredients. There's no animal testing,
• 1:14:57
  and like, I hope that's a revolution in the beauty
• 1:14:59
  industry too, just you know, switch over into this entirely
• 1:15:02
  vegan line. Everybody's worried about the vegan food they're consuming,
• 1:15:06
  what they're putting on the inside. What about the outside too,
• 1:15:09
  your skin that sits on your face. So so just
• 1:15:11
  to have that, I'm excited to embrace and encourage others
• 1:15:14
  and empower people to use you know, all that kind
• 1:15:17
  of veganism inside and out.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that, although I'm not being and I will.
• 1:15:21
  I love some chicken. I love that No but it's
• 1:15:25
  it's awesome that I just I really, I really mean
• 1:15:28
  what I said, Like, I just think this is just
• 1:15:29
  the beginning, even though for you it probably feels like
• 1:15:34
  twenty three years right, it's like but it's like, it's
• 1:15:37
  like I just started yet. What do you mean? Yeah?
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, why are you putting me back at
• 1:15:41
  the beginning? Do you understand what I've done?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: No, And I don't mean in that way, it's all
• 1:15:45
  I really mean it in the sense of just like
• 1:15:47
  I think you're just gonna I think you're gonna have
• 1:15:49
  such a big impact on the world, and you already
• 1:15:52
  are in incredible ways, bigger than most people have already,
• 1:15:56
  and I'm just so excited to see it continue and
• 1:15:58
  grow and involve. And I just want you to know
• 1:15:59
  that right here as a friend and you know, here
• 1:16:01
  for you, you know, I want need to know that,
• 1:16:03
  Like I mean that, because yeah, you're special and it's
• 1:16:06
  going to be so so excited to watch for all
• 1:16:08
  of us. So I'm glad I get to witness.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: Thank you, like you have no idea, Like you say
• 1:16:13
  you're here for me, but you you've been here for me.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: You have no idea like, how how many times you
• 1:16:18
  have like saved me in that sense of falling into
• 1:16:21
  like a pit. So I thank you for that you
• 1:16:23
  were hand when you weren't even physically there. But hey,
• 1:16:26
  so follow him on Instagram if you need help.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see no more likes on Instagram.
• 1:16:32
  I want to phone calls.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, but I'm grateful.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful for you, man, and I'm excited for you.
• 1:16:38
  Thank you for letting me be a part of your journey.
• 1:16:40
  So I'm I'm so happy to be here.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: And so we end every interview with what I call
• 1:16:44
  the final five. This is the final five, quick fire,
• 1:16:47
  rapid fire around. I promise you there were no surprises,
• 1:16:49
  but I lied, Oh you did. Learning about bringing it
• 1:16:51
  a challenge excepted here we go. These are so you
• 1:16:54
  can answer max one word or one sentence. I know
• 1:16:56
  you're a queen of games, like way too long. You
• 1:16:59
  guys know a thing. So okay, So question number one,
• 1:17:02
  what's your weirdest habit?
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: Mm hm hmmm hmm my weirdest habit?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: How much time do I have to?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: Man, I think just life it's up.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's oh, oh the way I eat.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: The left and right twigs.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: I bite off all the chocolate and then I stuck
• 1:17:25
  off the caramel, and then I eat the cookie inside.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: That's gross. I used to do this. Brown used to
• 1:17:32
  do this thing. I used to do with kit cats
• 1:17:34
  as well. I used to eat the surroundings and they
• 1:17:36
  need the top lay. Yeah. Yeah, it's the best way
• 1:17:39
  to eat twigs. I get it. You get to enjoy it.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: You get to enjoy just the chocolate and just the caramel,
• 1:17:43
  and they're beautiful together.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: I love it. Okay, Okay, So that's question number one.
• 1:17:47
  The second question, if you could invent your dream barbecue sauce,
• 1:17:50
  what would it be made of?
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was just talking about this earlier
• 1:17:54
  for uh uh in text mex I mean in Texas,
• 1:17:57
  we have text Max you as the perfect person.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: This quitequestion.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: In Texas, we have this for heat to meat that
• 1:18:03
  is marinated in pineapple and lime juice. This is not
• 1:18:05
  a one word answer, Oopsie's and so pineapple lime, some
• 1:18:10
  kind of tangy, sweet and sour sauce that also has
• 1:18:13
  a spicy kick at the end.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: I think that would be it.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: So great.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's good.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. Okay, do you want the name for it,
• 1:18:22
  or yeah, you can give me a name for it.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: Curries buys.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: We put some kind of curry there. I love it.
• 1:18:28
  Something awesome. Question number three. This is actual. So who
• 1:18:36
  on your team is the one to tell you no?
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: Like me? Oh yeah, I recently just I didn't found
• 1:18:43
  out about this word.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: No, and and I started using it maybe when I
• 1:18:46
  was like twenty two, and I got really excited about it.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Now I say no, I love it's awesome. Awesome. I
• 1:18:53
  had to ask you this because I saw this years
• 1:18:55
  ago before we knew each other, obviously because it was
• 1:18:57
  a while ago. But how does a bomb as smell like?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: He just smells like like like really really clean laundry, Like.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: He just did it.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: He washed that shirt over and over and over again,
• 1:19:10
  so that when someone did ask what did he smell like,
• 1:19:13
  he was like, they're going to say clean laundry.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he wanted.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: And also like like a little bit like like like
• 1:19:20
  a forest, like like like a mystical forest with like
• 1:19:22
  fog and like a deer like in the distance.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: You know, he's incredible.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: That must have been what experience in credible an.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: Experience basically like a like a dryer sheet in the woods.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: That's what Obama's amazing. This is your fifth and final question.
• 1:19:41
  So you said you like love this quote. Success is
• 1:19:43
  going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm. So why
• 1:19:48
  that quote? Why is that quote so powerful for you? Oh?
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: I love that because I've and I think we all
• 1:19:53
  do sometimes with our self doubt and whatnot. We consider
• 1:19:56
  certain things or certain experiences or moments to be failures.
• 1:19:59
  And if you let that failure bring you down, sure
• 1:20:01
  you conspiral. And yes, I encourage you to lead into
• 1:20:03
  the feeling of whatever you're feeling. But if you if
• 1:20:06
  you allow that, if you won't let your won't let
• 1:20:09
  you yourself live that moment down, You're gonna just feel
• 1:20:13
  down forever, you know. And and so to not lose
• 1:20:17
  enthusiasm and to keep believing in yourself and have this
• 1:20:20
  quote unquote delusional confidence, then you can keep going. And
• 1:20:23
  that's what makes you successful is not letting those moments
• 1:20:27
  of failures define you, but just to keep going and
• 1:20:31
  believing that you have so much to say and you're
• 1:20:33
  going to keep saying it no matter what your mind
• 1:20:36
  says about you your mouth. I like to say that
• 1:20:38
  though recently I've discovered that your mind can either live
• 1:20:41
  in the past or the future, but your mouth lives
• 1:20:43
  in the present and it speaks true.
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  Speaker 2: That's so good. That is so good. Yeah, you need
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  to post that. I'm working on that. Excited. So you're good.
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  I love that.
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  Speaker 3: It's a little cheerleading moment.
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  Speaker 1: Make you think you but like your your mouth speaks
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  the truth and you're able to speak your reality.
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  Speaker 3: My mind might be saying, oh, no, you're not doing
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  well on the podcast right now.
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  Speaker 2: You're not.
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  Speaker 3: This isn't what you're saying is not profound enough for mister.
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  Speaker 1: No, my my mouth is saying a little bit of
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  a stutter, but my mouth is saying, no, I have
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  something important to say and I'm going to say it,
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  and perhaps j will oo and he did and so
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  he did.
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  Speaker 2: So that's I love mine in the mouth.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: That's such a powerful way of putting it. I've never
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  had anyone say that. Yeah, that's amazing. No, you said
• 1:21:29
  so many things like I just first of all, I
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  just want to say everyone's been listening and watching. There
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  have been so many practical gems and like wisdom drops
• 1:21:39
  and you've given everyone like I'm going back to the
• 1:21:41
  ones that I've remembered, and there's a ton more and
• 1:21:43
  I want you guys to find them and share your
• 1:21:45
  favorite ones on Instagram and tag us both. But here
• 1:21:47
  are a few that stood out to me. Disarmed, don't
• 1:21:50
  defend or display disalm. Right, this is what Liza was
• 1:21:53
  telling us. When we meet someone, we can disarm the
• 1:21:55
  other person and disarm ourselves to be our best selves.
• 1:21:58
  Delusional confidence. Right as we was talking about like having
• 1:22:01
  the ability to just go beyond what we think is possible,
• 1:22:04
  and like being able to realize that there's an aspirational
• 1:22:07
  version of ourselves, you're hearing the mouth. I mean this
• 1:22:10
  mouth and mind is like blown my mind right now.
• 1:22:12
  Like I'm going to use that everyone quote you again
• 1:22:15
  and again. I'm going to put that and like just peak.
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  You're watching my peak right now. Yah. I love that,
• 1:22:21
  Like I think it's such it's so much truth because
• 1:22:24
  we believe everything our mindsets, but if your mouth said
• 1:22:27
  something different, you could believe that and that could change
• 1:22:29
  your mind, like absolutely absolutely, And this is one you
• 1:22:33
  can hear out loud. So I love that. It's so
• 1:22:36
  many takeaways in this whole episode. Thank you, Lisa. We're
• 1:22:39
  so excited for Liza on Demand season two. I want
• 1:22:42
  everyone to go watch it on YouTube. It's it's going
• 1:22:45
  to be amazing, and I want everyone to watch it
• 1:22:48
  just to witness this incredible burst of energy and soul
• 1:22:52
  that everyone gets to all the goodness. And you've always said,
• 1:22:54
  right like, your content is always being to make people smile, happy, laugh,
• 1:23:00
  them some positive out there. Yeah, and that's what lies
• 1:23:02
  on and demands doing in a bigger, better way.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks man, I appreciate that. Yeah, please tune in.
• 1:23:07
  But you keep tuning into Jay's podcast. Okay, I'm just
• 1:23:10
  saying it is Literally I was.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: Listening to one on the way here.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: I was prepping myself for you know, That's how I
• 1:23:14
  get into character, so I study the character I'm about
• 1:23:16
  to sit across the table with.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: But nice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but thank you.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to ask you this because you're such
• 1:23:23
  a dear friend and I want to be able to
• 1:23:24
  tell you. Is there anything that I didn't let you
• 1:23:26
  talk about today that you'd love to share or anything
• 1:23:28
  you like really wanted to sheds but you didn't let
• 1:23:30
  me or I didn't get one? Oh nah, shared?
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: More like I legitimately like shared more than I thought I.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: Was going to amazing Okay. I wanted to ask you
• 1:23:40
  as a friend, like yes, looking out for this stays
• 1:23:44
  in the podcast.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: I think we went yeah okay.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: No, I went everywhere. I just I always asked that
• 1:23:50
  because I just want to yeah, yeah, and I want
• 1:23:53
  I want this to be good for you. So it's
• 1:23:54
  like I told you yesterday, like the whole goal with
• 1:23:57
  the podcast. People already love you, how can they love
• 1:23:58
  you more? Like that's the goal, right, That's all it is.
• 1:24:01
  Ah Man, all my people, pleaseing.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: I love to hear that you can love me more.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I love you. Thank you, Thanks everyone for
• 1:24:08
  listening and watching. I'd love for you to pick whichever
• 1:24:11
  Liza Wisdom drops stood out to you and put it
• 1:24:13
  on it on Instagram, tag us both so we can
• 1:24:15
  see or you've taken away. I love seeing what you're learning.
• 1:24:18
  I love seeing what you're growing through. And remember, please
• 1:24:21
  please go and support my amazing friend Liza for a
• 1:24:24
  new show. Share the show with others. It's going to
• 1:24:26
  be phenomenal to watch. I can't wait for you to
• 1:24:28
  see it. I'm excited to watch it myself. Thank you
• 1:24:31
  so much for listening. I'll see you again next week.
• 1:24:33
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