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The Clydesdale Media Roundtable - The CrossFit Season is Upon Us · Clydesdale Media Podcast

• 0:29
  what is going on everybody
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  welcome to the class tell
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  me your round table this
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  week we got amy yep I'm
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  back so we got there's a
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  lot buzzing around the
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  space but the first thing I
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  have to know from you is
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  I've heard of fran long
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  I've never heard of grace
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  long I'll have it today but
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  I got to know what it is
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  and how you got it
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  Okay.
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  Let's do grace.
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  So first of all, so it was,
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  we had a strength beforehand, you know,
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  working up to a heavy three rep.
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  Uh, and that felt fine.
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  I mean, actually,
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  I put eighty five on there.
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  That was my starting weight
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  to kind of build.
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  And I was like, oh, this.
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  OK,
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  now I remember this is going to suck
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  when I get to actually grace.
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  And so then I was like,
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  I looked at all my I've
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  done it like eight times
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  and my my all time PR is like two forty.
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  And I was like, well,
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  that's not happening
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  because that was like six years ago.
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  And, you know, I'm still fit,
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  but not that as fit as that.
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  And so I almost always do
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  singles all the way.
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  And I was like, didn't have a plan.
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  And I did one set of three.
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  And then I went singles all
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  the way through.
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  Didn't look at the clock.
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  Just was like, just get your reps done.
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  Just do your thirties and
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  look at the clock.
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  It's fine.
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  And I finished in two fifty seven.
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  So I was thrilled that I got
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  it under three.
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  And then I just kind of like
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  laid down on the ground.
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  And then for about fifteen
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  minutes afterwards,
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  I was coughing and couldn't stop.
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  And I was like, oh, yeah,
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  this is what it's like when
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  you taste that metal again
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  and hit that threshold.
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  So that's where I had Grace Lung.
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  So.
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  Are you happy that you
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  pushed to a level that got
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  you the cardio lung that
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  You said it's been a long time.
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  Yeah.
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  I think it's good going into
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  the open that you start to
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  experience that because
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  that's really what the
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  open's about is pushing you
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  to that like new limit.
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  Well,
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  it's funny because a bunch of us
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  during the warmup,
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  we're talking about that.
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  We're like, oh, great.
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  We're not anywhere near RPRs
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  and it's almost the open time.
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  I feel much differently about the open.
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  Last year was I felt
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  differently about the open
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  because I was more focused
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  on studying for my level three.
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  This year,
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  I feel differently about the
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  open because I feel like I
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  always had something to
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  kind of work towards,
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  like I was hoping to be in
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  the top ten percent, you know,
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  to to be the quarterfinals that way.
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  And then last year is like, OK,
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  when they made it the top twenty five,
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  I was like, I don't have to.
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  try as hard.
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  And this year I'm kind of just like,
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  I'm just going to do three
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  weeks of workouts and
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  that's what I'll do.
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  So for you,
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  the community club cup has not
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  triggered your passion like
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  quarterfinals did in the past.
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  No, it just hasn't.
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  So for you,
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  now that the levels have a meaning, yeah,
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  that doesn't mean anything.
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  Uh, it might, I just,
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  because I don't know what
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  it looks like yet.
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  Like, because it's something new,
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  I haven't really like seen, you know,
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  can't put myself there yet.
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  So hypothetically finish the
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  open and you are a level seven.
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  Okay.
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  you go to the community cup
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  you compete level seven
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  level eight okay grab the
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  two yeah and by the end of
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  the community cup you're
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  now a level eight okay does
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  that mean something to you
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  yeah I mean that would that
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  would give me some
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  incentive yeah okay yeah
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  but I'm just saying again
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  just because it's something
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  new and just like
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  quarterfinals was was new
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  before too it was like oh I
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  just want to make it to
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  that and then whatever
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  you know, with,
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  with the quarterfinal workouts.
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  Yeah.
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  What I like about this new format,
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  and I think we probably do
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  have to see it one year is
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  that you make it and then
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  you're with your group of
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  athletes that you can push against.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  And then it's not over.
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  You can,
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  you can improve on wherever you
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  are in that, in that group.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  And that part makes sense
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  because it's like,
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  when you get to the quarterfinals,
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  you're like, okay, I'm right here, but,
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  But they're right.
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  These people are here and
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  I'm just happy to be right under here.
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  So at least I would get to, yeah, I mean,
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  be against people.
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  You're right.
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  Like that we could push each other.
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  And I like the fact that the
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  workout for your group will
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  be customized for that skill level.
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  Yeah, true.
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  And I do think if it's going forward,
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  then people will be like, well,
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  this year I was level three.
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  I'd love to be a level five.
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  Yeah.
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  I think it'll start meaning more.
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  I agree.
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  Going forward.
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  But we, you're right.
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  We don't know what's going on.
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  Yeah.
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  And that's what I mean.
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  That's why I'm hard to get.
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  It's hard to get excited about something.
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  You're just not sure what, how it will go.
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  So.
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  Is your gym doing the big
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  intramural tournament?
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  Yeah.
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  Yes.
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  Sign ups up or down this
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  year for the open for you guys?
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  Down.
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  Down.
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  Yeah.
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  Significantly or?
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  No, I wouldn't say significant.
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  I mean, I used to go to your gym.
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  Yeah.
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  There are a small group of
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  people that really follow the sport.
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  Most of them have no idea
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  who Tia Toomey is anyway.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean,
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  that might be a little bit facetious,
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  but.
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  Yeah, I think it's a very small number.
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  And that's when I keep
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  getting back to thinking about,
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  which I know we'll talk about later,
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  like people de-affiliating
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  and doing all this stuff in the sport.
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  There's a very small number
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  of most athletes in gyms
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  that really know about the
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  sport and the sport side of it.
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  Yes.
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  Teeny tiny.
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  Yes.
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  Yeah.
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  And they're usually back in
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  the back corner hiding from
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  the coach talking about it.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Corey says you're assuming
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  they'll keep it around.
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  Uh, that is correct.
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  Who knows?
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  They could be selling and
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  someone's going to change
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  the format next year.
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  Yeah, could be.
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  So there's a lot of buzz about a sale.
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  Um,
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  nothing concrete.
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  Um, all we have right now is, uh, some, uh,
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  push pins and some red yarn
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  and a couple of pieces of
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  evidence here and there and,
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  and everywhere.
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  And, um,
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  And one of those was that
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  Daniel Chaffee could become the CEO.
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  Coffee Pods and Wads had him on yesterday.
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  I am less inclined to
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  believe that that is in
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  place after listening to
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  that interview than was stated before.
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  So I think there are some
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  facts that we don't know,
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  and we're still putting
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  puzzle pieces together.
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  So your thoughts about
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  CrossFit possibly being up for sale?
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  I mean,
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  I have a lot of thoughts going on
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  right now, so it's hard to, to, I think,
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  I think we need strong
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  leadership happening.
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  Um, and I,
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  and I think we've been talking
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  forever about some transparency.
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  I think that on the
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  affiliate side that we were, you know,
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  making
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  Although affiliate fees were increasing,
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  though,
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  I think there was some real
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  positive parts to that aspect.
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  This is where I'm going to
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  get on my soapbox real quick.
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  I really am hating that HQ
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  is all encompassed with the
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  sport and with our affiliates,
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  because I think that that
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  creates a lot of confusion
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  for the majority of most
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  CrossFit athletes.
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  And so I think they see the stuff about,
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  I'm talking about the
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  majority of the athletes,
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  not a niche people who are
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  really into the sport and
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  really into deep diving and all this.
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  I think that that can feel
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  scary that there's been so
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  many turnovers of
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  leadership and ownership.
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  I think what's frustrating for me is that
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  we have forward facing
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  people for CrossFit HQ, Dawn Fall,
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  Dave Castro, Austin Maliolo,
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  all these people, right?
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  None of them own CrossFit, right?
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  Yeah.
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  Who owns CrossFit is this board and this,
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  uh,
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  finance company behind it or whatever.
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  Yeah.
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  I keep losing the word for that.
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  Um,
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  Right.
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  And I think they control a
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  lot of what we hate and a
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  lot of what we have seen
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  and that the forward-facing
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  people aren't allowed to
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  say or do things that we
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  think they should,
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  but they have no control over that.
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  And that was kind of
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  confirmed yesterday in the
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  interview with Daniel Chaffee.
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  Okay.
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  He said flat out that Don
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  Fall tried to do things.
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  And then when it was seen
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  that the roadmap to make
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  money with CrossFit from
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  the private equity company
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  wasn't happening,
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  they started telling him no.
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  Cut here, cut there, cut this.
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  Yeah.
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  And so I think there's just
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  a lot of confusion right now.
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  Yes.
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  So train to live asks a great question.
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  Better to have an outsider
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  by it or better to have
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  someone involved in CrossFit.
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  I think you have to
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  understand the community.
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  I do too.
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  I think it needs to be somebody that knows,
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  but I don't, I would not be mad at a mix.
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  Because rather than a
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  private equity company coming in,
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  I'd rather have a mix of
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  people and businesses in
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  and outside of the sport to
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  work together.
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  Come up with new ideas, new fresh things,
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  but understand this
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  community does not react
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  like most communities do to change.
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  So that's cool.
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  And another thing out of the
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  Daniel Chaffee interview
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  with Coffee Pods and Wads
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  is he says we got to stop
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  treating CrossFit like a flip.
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  He's like,
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  it's like you bought a four
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  hundred thousand dollar
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  house and then you come in
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  and you just put stuff in
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  to make it look good and flip it.
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  this is a beautiful thing
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  that was created and it
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  needs to be shown as the
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  beautiful thing that it is.
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  And it needs time and energy
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  put into it to remodel it properly,
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  which I thought it was a
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  great analogy for that.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, I have been thinking that too.
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  Like I feel like there's
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  been all this constant turnover.
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  Yeah.
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  Since twenty twenty.
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  That's a short amount of time for, I feel,
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  this turnover.
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  Right,
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  because private equity is there for
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  one reason.
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  To make money.
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  Yes, to make money.
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  Yeah.
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  Man,
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  we're just going to hit the hot stuff.
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  Boom, boom, boom, boom.
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  Let's go.
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  Next.
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  Next one is,
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  I know that you love Ben
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  Bergeron and all that he stands for.
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  Not at all.
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  I believe he made an
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  announcement weeks ago that
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  he was going to de-affiliate.
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  He then had a podcast on his
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  chasing excellence platform.
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  He also had another gym owner come in.
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  He made a statement.
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  I played it yesterday where
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  he was asked if, so he was,
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  he answered that the reason
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  he was de-affiliating was
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  because of the incident at
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  the CrossFit games.
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  And the reaction by car values.
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  Right.
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  He was then asked,
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  what would you have done differently?
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  He said,
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  I don't know what I would have
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  done differently,
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  but I would have done the right thing.
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  But not give you what the right thing is.
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  Right.
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  Prefacing that by,
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  I don't know what I would
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  have done six months after the fact.
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  Right.
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  You've had six months to think about it,
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  and you still don't know
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  what you would have done.
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  And yet you're holding the
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  people accountable who had
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  to make that decision in minutes.
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  That really pissed me off.
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  Yeah.
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  So, you know, I'm pissed because, you know,
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  he made a big –
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  Hoopla who deal, you know,
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  deal with twenty twenty.
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  We're going to deaffiliate.
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  We're going to deaffiliate.
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  We're going to deaffiliate.
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  I actually thought they did.
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  I didn't realize that they
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  never did actually deaffiliate then.
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  So I thought they deaffiliated, came back,
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  blah, blah, blah.
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  And now they're doing it again.
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  So to me, it felt like,
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  and kind of what you and I just said,
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  like, oh,
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  so something big and
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  controversial is happening.
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  I'm going to make a
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  statement and to do something.
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  And it feels to me a little
• 14:57
  virtue signaling.
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  with his decision making.
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  He has the right to make his decision.
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  These are my opinions based
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  on his decisions.
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  And it also frustrates me
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  because it's like you've
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  literally been affiliated
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  since two thousand and seven.
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  You were at one of the first.
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  And this you have made your
• 15:19
  career based on this brand,
• 15:23
  this methodology, and
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  crossfit hq is more than the
• 15:27
  games you're making a
• 15:28
  decision based on the games
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  your affiliate is not the
• 15:34
  only thing that's yeah what
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  was it two years ago he
• 15:41
  said he was retiring from
• 15:43
  the sports side of crossfit
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  yep cole was going to take over
• 15:50
  Now you're de-affiliating
• 15:51
  because of the sports side
• 15:52
  that you retired from and
• 15:54
  it wanted nothing to do with,
• 15:55
  and we wanted to focus on your community.
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  Now you focus on your
• 15:58
  community and big controversies there.
• 16:01
  Everyone's got to hear what
• 16:03
  Ben has to say.
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  So I'm going to jump on a
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  podcast and not really have any answers.
• 16:10
  Yeah.
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  And I think that's where I
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  personally don't like him
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  because I feel like he
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  gives a lot of advice and,
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  you know,
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  a lot of life quotes and things
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  like that.
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  And I've listened to some of
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  his about parenting and, you know,
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  I'm all in on listening to that.
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  And I, I just, I feel that he talks, um,
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  all of it is this, I, I know the best,
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  I have all the answers.
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  I'm going to tell you guys, you know,
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  that follow this amazing
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  advice I'm giving you.
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  Talking down to people is
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  what I feel from his vibe.
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  Personally,
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  I could give a shit if he
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  de-affiliates or not.
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  I have nothing to do with
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  CrossFit New England.
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  But if you're going to de-affiliate,
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  as we say in Pittsburgh, shut your mouth.
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  Yins.
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  Shut your mouth, yins.
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  Yeah.
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  And it,
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  now the guy he had on had a bunch
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  of different reasons why
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  that led up to his decision.
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  It actually made more sense
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  to me than Ben's.
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  So, and I,
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  and I get it that there are
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  reasons that people would
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  de-affiliate and they can,
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  that's up to them.
• 17:28
  They have their reasons.
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  Um, but what Ben said,
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  nothing in that podcast, um,
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  And just as I've been thinking about,
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  it's a form of protest,
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  and I hundred percent
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  support that people have
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  the right to do that.
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  And I also look at the
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  athletes who have come out
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  to say that they're not
• 17:49
  participating in the Open,
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  and that is their way of protesting to HQ,
• 17:52
  and they have every right to do that.
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  And if that's their platform
• 17:55
  that they want to stand on to say,
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  I'm not going to support
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  that by not doing the Open,
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  they have every right for that.
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  But I guess I'm just saying
• 18:04
  when you are talking about
• 18:06
  again what you have said
• 18:08
  already said like the sport
• 18:09
  part and the affiliate part
• 18:11
  there is that difference
• 18:14
  you know he could still be
• 18:15
  crossfit new england and
• 18:16
  say we're not going to do
• 18:18
  we're not going to do the
• 18:19
  open here or we're not
• 18:20
  going to have our we're not
• 18:21
  going to encourage the
• 18:22
  athletes to do the open or
• 18:23
  whatever because we don't
• 18:24
  want hq to get you know I
• 18:25
  mean there are other ways
• 18:26
  that you could do it some
• 18:28
  whatever protest I guess
• 18:31
  how about if it bothered
• 18:32
  him so much he just does it
• 18:33
  silently they shut your mouth
• 18:47
  I don't want to get into the open.
• 18:48
  We've talked about that enough.
• 18:56
  I'm in for the open as soon
• 18:58
  as my debit card gets to me
• 18:59
  by mail that I can actually use it again.
• 19:02
  I will sign up for the open.
• 19:03
  I know you're signed up for the open.
• 19:04
  I am.
• 19:04
  I signed up.
• 19:07
  Yeah.
• 19:07
  I think pretty much
• 19:08
  everybody on this channel
• 19:09
  has signed up for the open.
• 19:11
  Um, so, uh, we're moving forward with it.
• 19:15
  I don't think we need to
• 19:16
  make a declaration on Instagram,
• 19:18
  but we're all in.
• 19:19
  Yeah.
• 19:22
  So then, um,
• 19:25
  Hiller had a couple of good videos out.
• 19:27
  Okay.
• 19:29
  Well,
• 19:30
  that's good to know because I
• 19:31
  unfollowed him.
• 19:31
  One YouTube.
• 19:32
  And one of those was he got
• 19:34
  a clip from a Tia interview
• 19:36
  that she did with the Navy
• 19:37
  SEAL Foundation.
• 19:38
  Okay.
• 19:39
  Where she talked about how
• 19:43
  she thought that there is
• 19:46
  no one that programs the
• 19:47
  games better than Dave.
• 19:50
  She also was saying that
• 19:54
  that she thinks that what
• 19:55
  happened at the games was a
• 19:56
  freak accident.
• 20:02
  And while I don't disagree
• 20:05
  entirely with that,
• 20:07
  it still means there's room
• 20:08
  for improvement.
• 20:09
  And she did kind of go on to
• 20:11
  say that at a later time,
• 20:13
  that we can learn from that
• 20:14
  and we can get better.
• 20:17
  So...
• 20:20
  But it was the first athlete
• 20:21
  that's really come out and
• 20:22
  supported CrossFit HQ and
• 20:26
  the people that we know as
• 20:27
  the forward-facing members
• 20:29
  of CrossFit HQ.
• 20:30
  Now,
• 20:31
  what she did say was she believes
• 20:33
  another entity should come
• 20:35
  in and run the games.
• 20:37
  And what I took from that is
• 20:40
  someone to come in, get the venue,
• 20:42
  to get Vendor Village set up,
• 20:45
  to get the food courts,
• 20:47
  to get all the activations,
• 20:49
  all of that stuff,
• 20:50
  and allow that CrossFit
• 20:51
  Games team to focus on the competition.
• 20:56
  Yeah,
• 20:57
  you need an event planner or an event
• 20:58
  team.
• 20:58
  Yeah, right.
• 21:00
  So the, the,
• 21:01
  like the Dave's and the Bosman's and the,
• 21:04
  all the people focusing on
• 21:05
  the competition have more
• 21:07
  time to do that and more focus on that.
• 21:13
  I think that is one thing
• 21:14
  that we learned last year
• 21:15
  is those people need to,
• 21:17
  the people who do it best
• 21:18
  need to have the most,
• 21:20
  the best focus to do the
• 21:22
  best job at times.
• 21:25
  Yeah.
• 21:25
  Yeah.
• 21:27
  now she didn't say it as I
• 21:30
  didn't even say it
• 21:30
  eloquently but I think I
• 21:31
  said it better than she did
• 21:33
  um she was very vague and
• 21:36
  unclear about it but that
• 21:37
  was my interpretation of it
• 21:39
  and I think that that would
• 21:40
  help the games team put on
• 21:42
  a better show and they
• 21:45
  would have more time to
• 21:45
  think about safety and and
• 21:49
  all that other stuff
• 21:52
  on top of that like carolyn
• 21:54
  said this sunday night on
• 21:55
  our show she doesn't feel
• 21:57
  any safer than she does at
• 21:58
  the crossfit games she's
• 22:01
  been to a lot of
• 22:01
  competitions and has not
• 22:05
  felt safe in games in her
• 22:08
  experience she's felt the
• 22:10
  most safe okay yeah and
• 22:16
  watching like I've seen
• 22:17
  some of the fiascos at waterpalooza
• 22:20
  with the pouring down rain
• 22:22
  and the sliding and the
• 22:24
  lifting heavy weights on
• 22:25
  the edge of a stage.
• 22:27
  And yeah.
• 22:33
  So what was Hiller's opinion about?
• 22:35
  Was he giving his opinion or
• 22:37
  just sharing other content?
• 22:39
  He was kind of sharing her
• 22:40
  content and kind of
• 22:41
  reiterating what he thought
• 22:42
  she was trying to say.
• 22:45
  He also thinks that she was
• 22:46
  somewhat vague because she
• 22:48
  didn't want to piss off the other side,
• 22:53
  which is what Train to Live
• 22:54
  is saying here.
• 23:00
  But she clearly said that
• 23:03
  Dave should be programming the games.
• 23:05
  Dave should be programming the games.
• 23:12
  my only beef with that is
• 23:14
  that we've got to come up
• 23:15
  with a succession plan
• 23:16
  because dave's not going to
• 23:17
  be around forever right I
• 23:24
  don't know what's happening
• 23:25
  in columbus but both dogs
• 23:26
  are losing their mind
• 23:28
  walter is upset this is
• 23:30
  just mail delivery time here
• 23:35
  um so with that I'll go to
• 23:38
  the second part of hiller's
• 23:39
  thing and that is the
• 23:41
  french throwdown it started
• 23:44
  penalizing the online
• 23:46
  qualifiers and for the
• 23:49
  first time hiller is
• 23:51
  calling good rep when the
• 23:53
  competition called no rep
• 23:57
  look at that change of event yeah
• 24:01
  The world can change.
• 24:02
  So they added hang power
• 24:05
  cleans to the qualifier.
• 24:08
  This person got like.
• 24:12
  Eighty percent of her reps, no reps.
• 24:17
  I do not see a no rep in
• 24:19
  what she did there.
• 24:21
  No, I'm wondering if one thing,
• 24:22
  if they thought that she
• 24:23
  brought the bar down before
• 24:26
  reaching extension.
• 24:27
  I mean,
• 24:28
  But there was only one that
• 24:29
  I saw that I was like,
• 24:30
  I wonder if that's what the call was.
• 24:31
  I don't know what.
• 24:32
  Elbows are in front of the bar.
• 24:34
  Elbows are in front.
• 24:35
  Yeah.
• 24:35
  She's in the front rack.
• 24:38
  And she is.
• 24:40
  Yeah.
• 24:41
  Pausing at the top to,
• 24:42
  to get the full extension.
• 24:43
  Yeah.
• 24:43
  Okay.
• 24:48
  I would like to know why.
• 24:50
  Jeff.
• 24:52
  Jay Birch.
• 24:53
  Why.
• 24:56
  He's taken the advanced judges course.
• 24:59
  Corey Leonard, oh,
• 25:00
  how the tables have turned.
• 25:01
  Oh, no, how the turntables.
• 25:04
  Oh.
• 25:09
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 25:14
  Yeah, they only watched the top eighteen,
• 25:16
  I think it was, that I read.
• 25:19
  Yet the top twenty make it.
• 25:22
  Which makes zero sense.
• 25:28
  what's two more like just
• 25:31
  just view those well and
• 25:32
  once you've penalized these
• 25:33
  people you have a whole new
• 25:35
  top twenty yeah so can they
• 25:37
  appeal this what the heck I
• 25:42
  don't know I don't know
• 25:45
  it's what's scary to me is
• 25:47
  we're becoming more online
• 25:49
  based and the more online
• 25:51
  based we become the more
• 25:54
  this stuff's going to get in the way
• 25:58
  Jay Birch, they look good to me.
• 26:00
  Yeah.
• 26:02
  I would agree.
• 26:09
  Yeah.
• 26:09
  Corey, these are all good reps.
• 26:11
  One lady got penalized like
• 26:12
  forty or sixty.
• 26:13
  This lady in the video got
• 26:14
  penalized eighty reps.
• 26:16
  Eighty?
• 26:17
  Eighty.
• 26:23
  I'd like to see what the standards are.
• 26:27
  Andrew Stan, if you're taking top twenty,
• 26:29
  you should review the top thirty minimum.
• 26:32
  Andrew, what's the issue here?
• 26:33
  Do you see one?
• 26:37
  Hiller's issue is they
• 26:38
  shouldn't have put hang
• 26:39
  power cleans in at all.
• 26:42
  One,
• 26:42
  it's hard to judge when people are
• 26:44
  going fast,
• 26:44
  but this example here is
• 26:47
  there's nothing freaking wrong.
• 26:49
  Yeah, but, um, who, uh,
• 26:51
  Birch has a good comment.
• 26:53
  Like we're only seeing one set.
• 26:57
  Or are they even no repping any of these?
• 27:00
  Is she saying no rep to any of these reps?
• 27:04
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 27:08
  It would be wild, though,
• 27:09
  that she does whatever it is,
• 27:11
  thirteen or fourteen reps
• 27:12
  here in a row and all of them are good.
• 27:15
  And then to completely shit
• 27:17
  the bed on the next.
• 27:17
  OK, fair point.
• 27:18
  Yeah.
• 27:30
  I just finished the monster
• 27:31
  game qualifiers and masters
• 27:33
  didn't even have to submit a video.
• 27:35
  There you go.
• 27:39
  Stop making sense.
• 27:40
  Andrew Sten.
• 27:40
  It scares people.
• 27:42
  Yeah.
• 27:42
  Lessons were not learned
• 27:43
  from box step ups.
• 27:44
  Good point.
• 27:45
  Right.
• 27:51
  Yeah.
• 27:51
  It's just, I think the more online we go,
• 27:54
  the more this is going to
• 27:55
  become an issue and Hiller
• 27:57
  is just going to get more
• 27:58
  and more popular.
• 28:02
  So good for Andrew Hiller.
• 28:03
  Yeah.
• 28:08
  We're coming up on the half hour.
• 28:09
  So, and I have a one o'clock meeting.
• 28:11
  So I'm going to finish up
• 28:14
  with this last night on the spin.
• 28:17
  They had Wilson pock on who
• 28:20
  Amy and I have met.
• 28:23
  One of the nicest guys in the sport.
• 28:26
  And one of the most giving
• 28:28
  people of his time and his efforts.
• 28:31
  And if you support a local
• 28:34
  comp syndicate crown is the
• 28:36
  one you need to support.
• 28:37
  He is just a good dude.
• 28:40
  They are making changes to
• 28:41
  try to make it a more fan friendly.
• 28:46
  They,
• 28:47
  even though teams don't qualify
• 28:48
  through these,
• 28:49
  they're going to have a
• 28:50
  team's competition just for fun.
• 28:54
  And it's going to be based on your,
• 28:56
  pretty much your levels
• 28:58
  without saying levels.
• 29:00
  Um, it's going to be done that way.
• 29:03
  And, but the thing that,
• 29:04
  that blew my mind is
• 29:06
  they're putting in a couple
• 29:07
  of rules that are different
• 29:10
  than any other semi in person semi,
• 29:13
  which I like the rules.
• 29:16
  I hate that everybody gets
• 29:17
  to do whatever they want.
• 29:21
  And, um,
• 29:24
  So what that is,
• 29:25
  is they are not allowing
• 29:29
  anybody who is already
• 29:30
  qualified for the CrossFit
• 29:31
  Games to attend.
• 29:32
  Okay.
• 29:34
  So he said,
• 29:35
  we hated the fact in the
• 29:36
  sanctionals where, well,
• 29:39
  because this person
• 29:39
  qualified from here and
• 29:40
  this person qualified from there,
• 29:42
  seventh place gets to go to
• 29:43
  the CrossFit Games.
• 29:46
  Yeah.
• 29:46
  Yeah.
• 29:46
  He's like,
• 29:47
  our top two on the podium will
• 29:48
  be the two people that go
• 29:49
  to the CrossFit Games.
• 29:51
  Yeah.
• 29:53
  So if you get an invite and
• 29:55
  then you qualify for the
• 29:56
  games before the competition,
• 29:59
  your invite will be rescinded.
• 30:03
  Okay.
• 30:04
  So I thought that was really cool.
• 30:05
  Yeah, I do like that.
• 30:08
  They also announced that
• 30:09
  their programming will be done by J.R.
• 30:11
  Howe, who does Crash Crucible.
• 30:14
  This is his first big-time
• 30:16
  comp to program for,
• 30:19
  and he has been named as
• 30:21
  someone that might be
• 30:23
  someone who could replace
• 30:26
  Dave at some point.
• 30:29
  So it's going to be
• 30:30
  interesting to see how he
• 30:31
  does on this level.
• 30:40
  Yeah, I think I love that,
• 30:41
  that it will make it
• 30:42
  exciting because you're not like, oh,
• 30:44
  wondering who's going to make it.
• 30:45
  And the programming,
• 30:49
  as we were just talking about,
• 30:50
  we needed somebody who
• 30:50
  might be a succession.
• 30:52
  So.
• 30:54
  Yeah.
• 30:56
  And the last thing is the
• 30:58
  Sevan crew will be the one
• 31:00
  streaming the Syndicate Crown.
• 31:02
  Okay.
• 31:04
  So it will be available to
• 31:05
  everyone on the Sevan channel.
• 31:07
  That means we're probably
• 31:08
  getting John Young and Bill
• 31:10
  Grundler as the announcers.
• 31:13
  But Wilson did say he's
• 31:15
  giving them unprecedented
• 31:18
  backstage access to tell
• 31:20
  more of the story throughout the weekend,
• 31:24
  which I think as...
• 31:27
  whoever it is that gets
• 31:28
  these opportunities,
• 31:30
  Brian friend had it at Waterpalooza.
• 31:33
  Savon's going to have it here.
• 31:34
  We need to take advantage of this.
• 31:36
  So this becomes the norm
• 31:38
  that we can cut the cost of
• 31:40
  the streaming so that the
• 31:42
  competition can make money
• 31:44
  and we can pay out the
• 31:45
  athletes and do all the other stuff.
• 31:49
  So I'm excited to see what
• 31:50
  they do with that.
• 31:53
  But yeah,
• 31:53
  those announcements were made
• 31:55
  last night on the spin.
• 31:57
  So go check that out in the
• 31:58
  first twenty minutes or so.
• 32:00
  We should make one quick
• 32:01
  announcement before signing off.
• 32:04
  What's that?
• 32:04
  Today's cat's birthday.
• 32:06
  Oh, it is.
• 32:07
  Happy birthday, cat.
• 32:08
  Yes.
• 32:10
  And I can let you go.
• 32:11
  I'm just going to promote
• 32:12
  Justin Kotler's on today at
• 32:13
  three o'clock.
• 32:15
  Um,
• 32:15
  so check that out three o'clock Eastern
• 32:17
  time, noon Pacific.
• 32:19
  And, uh, to answer Jody, uh,
• 32:22
  I don't have an answer.
• 32:23
  I'll know by next Friday.
• 32:24
  That was going to be one of
• 32:27
  my back into the state,
• 32:28
  into the main office or not.
• 32:29
  Uh, but again,
• 32:31
  there are fifteen hundred
• 32:32
  employees and only a hundred desks.
• 32:34
  So hoping they just don't
• 32:36
  have room for me.
• 32:41
  With that,
• 32:41
  thank you so much for joining us.
• 32:43
  Don't forget to jump on with
• 32:44
  Justin Kotler.
• 32:45
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• 32:48
  And with that,
• 32:48
  we will see everybody next
• 32:49
  time on the Clydesdale Media Roundtable.
• 32:53
  Peace.
• 32:53
  Bye.