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Jamie Mackay: The Country host on Denmark's plan to introduce a carbon tax on agriculture · Best of Business

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  Speaker 1: The Rural Report on the ever duplessy Eland Drive with
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  Speaker 2: Lamb Jamie McKay, hosts of the Countries Off the Plane.
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  Speaker 3: Hello Jamie, we'll Gooday, Heather. I'm sorry about the background
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  Speaker 3: noise and at Wellington Airport on the way to Tauranga.
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  Speaker 3: And I know that Wayne Lanfort, the president of Federated Farmers,
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  Speaker 3: filled the gap admirably. He's a man to be admired.
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  Speaker 3: It's a very good video on him on the Herald
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  Speaker 3: website today on mental health, his battles and also you
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  Speaker 3: know what he's done around that Meet the Need food
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  Speaker 3: charity along with Shavorn O'Malley, is absolutely wonderful. He's a
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  Speaker 3: good front man for farmers.
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  Speaker 2: So how late were you and who were you flying with?
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  Speaker 3: No? Look, I'm on time to be perfectly honest, Heather,
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  Speaker 3: but I was just running a fine gauntlet to do
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  Speaker 3: this cross. So I'm here and now and I'm raring
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  Speaker 3: to go.
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  Speaker 4: So we should apologize to Air New Zealand for all
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  Speaker 4: of the things that we said about them, and therefore
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  Speaker 4: we do apologize to them.
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  Speaker 2: What do you make of this thing that they're doing
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  Speaker 2: in Denmark. I looked at it and I thought, I
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  Speaker 2: said this to Wayne as well. Looked at it. I thought, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: it's noble intentions. You want to put the climate tax on.
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  Speaker 2: It's never going to happen because it hasn't happened here,
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  Speaker 2: it hasn't happened anywhere else.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, it's probably easy to put
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  Speaker 3: a climate tax on in a place like Denmark than
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  Speaker 3: New Zealand because I don't think there is their major
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  Speaker 3: export there, even though they do milk a few cows.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to be the first country to propose the
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  Speaker 3: introduction of a carbon or methane tax. Whether they do,
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  Speaker 3: it's yet another thing. So they're going to tax farmers
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  Speaker 3: at seventy dollars per ton by twenty thirty. It goes
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  Speaker 3: up to one hundred and seventy by twenty thirty five.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's roughly and Wayne would know the numbers
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  Speaker 3: better than me. One hundred dollars or one hundred euros
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  Speaker 3: per cow. But you know, European farmers say that nothing
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  Speaker 3: they enjoy more than a good protest, they're unlikely to
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  Speaker 3: take this one lying down. And despite despite the cost
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  Speaker 3: of this apparently tax deductions, meaning the real costs will
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  Speaker 3: be considerably less for Danish farmers. And you know, but
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  Speaker 3: the danger for us here in New Zealand as if
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  Speaker 3: they are seen to be doing the right thing by
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  Speaker 3: the climate and the planet, they're likely to seize the
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  Speaker 3: opportunity and make life a bit more difficult for New
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  Speaker 3: Zealand agricultural exports into the EU. So watch the space
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  Speaker 3: on that one.
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  Speaker 2: Do you like the look of the sum panel that's
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  Speaker 2: been appointed to do the methane.
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  Speaker 3: Review, Well, I don't know that many of them to be.
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  Speaker 3: Nicola Shadbolt is a professor at Massi University. I think
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  Speaker 3: she's a Fontier or was a FONTIRA director. Professor Dave
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  Speaker 3: Frame is a well regarded climate science I see, and
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  Speaker 3: though he stood me up for an interview hither, I
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  Speaker 3: won't all that against Professor Dave. The rest the rest
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  Speaker 3: I don't really know. But Wayne Langford's banging on. He said, look,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the current methane duck targets are incredibly devised,
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  Speaker 3: The highly political, very questionable science underpinning them. You know
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  Speaker 3: those numbers forty by twenty fifty was going to destroy
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  Speaker 3: livestock farming in this country, and even ten percent by
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  Speaker 3: twenty thirty was going to see sheep and beef production
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  Speaker 3: down by twenty percent. So look, I'm glad they're doing
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  Speaker 3: something about it. We'll judge them on their merits.
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  Speaker 2: When are we actually going to get it?
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  Speaker 4: I mean we've talked a lot about what they're going
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  Speaker 4: to do with the live exports, this government, but when
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  Speaker 4: are we actually going to get a decision?
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  Speaker 3: Finally, Well, I see that the government and talking about
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  Speaker 3: Federated Farmers. Of course, former Federated Farmer's President. These days,
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  Speaker 3: act MP and Associate ad Minister Andrew Hoggard is saying
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  Speaker 3: the government's progressing its commitment to reinstate live cattle exports
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  Speaker 3: by sea. Remember at this stage it's only live cattle,
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  Speaker 3: it's certainly not sheep there and consultation is set to
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  Speaker 3: start in September. Reinstating the live livestock exports will by
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  Speaker 3: sea will require an amendment to the Animal Welfare Act
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  Speaker 3: of nineteen ninety nine. But remember, Heather, it's tough times.
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  Speaker 3: It's five hundred billion dollar industry per annum that might
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  Speaker 3: even buy a few cook straight ferries.
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  Speaker 2: Jamie Watson TOTNG. Why are you needed there?
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  Speaker 3: Well, there was a long planned trap and it's been
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  Speaker 3: bookended by a couple of farming events either side of it.
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  Speaker 3: But I didn't realize I was going to, namely the
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  Speaker 3: South Island Airy Event and christ Church that I've been
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  Speaker 3: at this week and then the Primary Industry Summit and
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  Speaker 2: Jamie, thank you very much. Look after yourself mate, That's
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  Speaker 2: Jamie McCain and enjoy your long weekend.
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