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Navigating the Church Ages Part 3: Insights from TS Wright and Pastor Bob Robert Thibodeau · GOD CENTERED CONCEPT

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  Scott
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  Wright
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  or
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  wright
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  his
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  he's
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  the
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  author
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  presenter
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  of
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  the
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  God
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  Centered
• 2:22
  Concept
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  series.
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  And
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  you
• 2:25
  know
• 2:26
  folks,
• 2:26
  if,
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  if
• 2:27
  you
• 2:28
  haven't
• 2:28
  been
• 2:28
  listening
• 2:29
  to
• 2:29
  our
• 2:29
  prior
• 2:29
  episodes,
• 2:30
  you
• 2:30
  need
• 2:30
  to
• 2:30
  go
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  back
• 2:31
  and,
• 2:31
  and
• 2:31
  go
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  to
• 2:32
  the
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  archives,
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  type
• 2:33
  in
• 2:33
  TS
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  right
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  and
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  listen
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  to
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  those
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  episodes
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  because
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  we
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  man,
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  it's
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  been
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  a
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  blessed
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  time
• 2:39
  as
• 2:39
  he's
• 2:40
  been
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  sharing
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  information
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  about
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  the
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  seven
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  church
• 2:42
  ages,
• 2:43
  the
• 2:43
  end
• 2:43
  days,
• 2:44
  the
• 2:44
  book
• 2:44
  of
• 2:44
  Revelation.
• 2:45
  And
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  folks,
• 2:47
  last
• 2:48
  time
• 2:48
  we
• 2:48
  talked
• 2:48
  about
• 2:49
  the
• 2:49
  end
• 2:49
  of
• 2:49
  the
• 2:49
  first
• 2:50
  church
• 2:50
  age
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  and,
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  and
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  then
• 2:51
  the
• 2:51
  second
• 2:52
  church
• 2:52
  age
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  and
• 2:53
  today
• 2:54
  we're
• 2:54
  going
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  into
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  the
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  third
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  church
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  age.
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  Praise
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  God.
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  And
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  the
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  information
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  that
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  Scott
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  has
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  accumulated
• 3:02
  in
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  his
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  studies
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  on
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  this,
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  I
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  mean
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  there's
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  no
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  other
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  way
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  to
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  put
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  it
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  other
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  than
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  saying
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  it
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  is
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  a
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  huge
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  blessing
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  and
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  giving
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  you
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  wisdom
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  and
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  understanding
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  on
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  the
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  end
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  times.
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  And
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  it's
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  going
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  to
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  culminate
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  when
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  we
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  get
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  to
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  the
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  last
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  part,
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  which
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  is
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  where
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  we
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  are
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  at
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  right
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  now
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  on
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  the
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  timeline.
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  Amen.
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  But
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  in
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  order
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  to
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  grasp
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  that
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  full
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  understanding,
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  you
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  have
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  to
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  understand
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  what
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  the
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  Lord
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  has
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  been
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  doing
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  all
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  these
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  other
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  years
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  since
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  he
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  went
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  to
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  heaven.
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  And
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  to
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  get
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  there,
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  we
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  first
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  got
• 3:38
  to
• 3:38
  find
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  out
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  all
• 3:39
  the
• 3:39
  different
• 3:39
  ages.
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  There's
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  just
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  no
• 3:42
  other
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  thing
• 3:42
  to
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  do
• 3:42
  except
• 3:43
  say
• 3:43
  help
• 3:44
  me.
• 3:44
  Welcome
• 3:44
  to
• 3:44
  the
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  program,
• 3:45
  Scott
• 3:45
  Wright.
• 3:46
  Scott,
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  praise
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  God
• 3:47
  for
• 3:48
  coming
• 3:48
  back
• 3:48
  on
• 3:48
  the
• 3:49
  program
• 3:49
  today,
• 3:49
  man.
• 3:50
  And
• 3:50
  I
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  am
• 3:51
  so
• 3:51
  excited
• 3:52
  to
• 3:52
  hear
• 3:53
  the
• 3:53
  next
• 3:53
  step.
• 3:54
  Take
• 3:54
  it
• 3:55
  from
• 3:55
  there.
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  Well,
• 3:56
  Bob,
• 3:56
  it's
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  just
• 3:56
  great
• 3:56
  to
• 3:57
  be
• 3:57
  here
• 3:57
  and
• 3:57
  thank
• 3:57
  you
• 3:57
  for
• 3:57
  having
• 3:58
  me
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  on
• 3:58
  the
• 3:58
  show
• 3:58
  again.
• 3:59
  Looking
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  forward
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  to
• 4:00
  our
• 4:00
  discussion
• 4:01
  today.
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  So
• 4:02
  obviously
• 4:03
  we're
• 4:03
  going
• 4:03
  to
• 4:03
  be
• 4:03
  diving
• 4:04
  into
• 4:04
  the
• 4:04
  third
• 4:05
  age
• 4:05
  of
• 4:05
  the
• 4:05
  church,
• 4:06
  Church
• 4:07
  of
• 4:07
  Pergamum.
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  That's
• 4:08
  going
• 4:08
  to
• 4:08
  be
• 4:08
  Revelation
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  chapter
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  2,
• 4:10
  verses
• 4:10
  12
• 4:11
  through
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  17,
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  if
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  you
• 4:12
  want
• 4:12
  to
• 4:12
  read
• 4:13
  that
• 4:13
  in
• 4:13
  your
• 4:13
  Bible.
• 4:14
  That's
• 4:15
  that
• 4:15
  would
• 4:15
  be
• 4:15
  the
• 4:15
  verses
• 4:16
  to
• 4:16
  read
• 4:16
  and
• 4:16
  chapter
• 4:17
  and
• 4:17
  verse.
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  But
• 4:19
  I
• 4:19
  think
• 4:19
  to
• 4:19
  really
• 4:19
  understand
• 4:20
  from
• 4:20
  a
• 4:21
  historical
• 4:21
  standpoint
• 4:22
  this
• 4:22
  age
• 4:22
  of
• 4:23
  the
• 4:23
  church,
• 4:23
  we
• 4:23
  have
• 4:23
  to
• 4:23
  dial
• 4:24
  back
• 4:24
  to
• 4:24
  the
• 4:24
  very
• 4:24
  end
• 4:25
  of
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  second
• 4:26
  age
• 4:26
  of
• 4:26
  the
• 4:26
  church.
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  And
• 4:27
  I
• 4:27
  want
• 4:28
  to
• 4:28
  give
• 4:28
  a
• 4:28
  couple
• 4:29
  of
• 4:29
  quick
• 4:29
  review
• 4:29
  points
• 4:30
  that
• 4:30
  I
• 4:30
  think
• 4:30
  are
• 4:31
  important
• 4:32
  to
• 4:32
  help
• 4:32
  us
• 4:32
  advance
• 4:33
  into
• 4:33
  this
• 4:33
  third
• 4:34
  age.
• 4:34
  So
• 4:35
  one
• 4:35
  of
• 4:35
  the
• 4:35
  things
• 4:35
  to
• 4:35
  understand
• 4:36
  is
• 4:36
  that
• 4:36
  when
• 4:36
  we
• 4:37
  go
• 4:37
  back
• 4:37
  and
• 4:37
  look
• 4:37
  at
• 4:37
  the
• 4:37
  first
• 4:38
  age
• 4:38
  of
• 4:38
  the
• 4:38
  church,
• 4:39
  it
• 4:39
  was
• 4:40
  really
• 4:40
  about
• 4:41
  the
• 4:41
  process
• 4:42
  of
• 4:42
  removing
• 4:43
  the
• 4:43
  Jewish
• 4:44
  influence
• 4:45
  and
• 4:46
  where
• 4:46
  they
• 4:46
  were
• 4:46
  trying
• 4:47
  to
• 4:47
  stop
• 4:47
  Christianity.
• 4:49
  The
• 4:49
  second
• 4:49
  age
• 4:49
  of
• 4:50
  the
• 4:50
  church
• 4:50
  is
• 4:50
  now
• 4:50
  about
• 4:51
  removing
• 4:51
  the
• 4:52
  Roman
• 4:52
  influence,
• 4:53
  trying
• 4:54
  to
• 4:54
  stop
• 4:54
  Christianity.
• 4:55
  And
• 4:56
  in
• 4:56
  both
• 4:56
  cases,
• 4:56
  what's
• 4:57
  interesting
• 4:57
  is
• 4:57
  through
• 4:57
  these
• 4:57
  persecutions,
• 4:59
  it
• 4:59
  actually
• 4:59
  helps
• 4:59
  spread
• 5:00
  the
• 5:00
  church
• 5:01
  because
• 5:01
  people
• 5:02
  would
• 5:02
  flee
• 5:02
  and
• 5:02
  go
• 5:02
  to
• 5:02
  other
• 5:03
  areas
• 5:03
  and
• 5:04
  take
• 5:04
  the
• 5:04
  faith
• 5:04
  with
• 5:05
  them.
• 5:05
  So
• 5:06
  in
• 5:06
  a
• 5:06
  sense
• 5:07
  it
• 5:07
  helps
• 5:08
  spread
• 5:08
  it
• 5:08
  outside
• 5:09
  both
• 5:10
  Israel
• 5:11
  and
• 5:11
  then
• 5:11
  eventually
• 5:12
  outside
• 5:12
  of
• 5:13
  Rome.
• 5:13
  So
• 5:13
  you
• 5:14
  had
• 5:14
  the
• 5:14
  Roman
• 5:14
  Empire
• 5:15
  where
• 5:15
  Christianity
• 5:16
  was
• 5:16
  spreading
• 5:16
  in
• 5:16
  pockets,
• 5:17
  but
• 5:18
  also
• 5:18
  people
• 5:18
  would
• 5:19
  flee
• 5:19
  outside
• 5:19
  of
• 5:20
  the
• 5:20
  Roman
• 5:20
  Empire
• 5:21
  and
• 5:21
  as
• 5:21
  well
• 5:22
  they
• 5:22
  would
• 5:22
  spread
• 5:22
  Christianity.
• 5:23
  So
• 5:24
  the
• 5:24
  church
• 5:25
  is
• 5:25
  spreading
• 5:25
  like
• 5:26
  crazy
• 5:26
  during
• 5:27
  this
• 5:27
  time.
• 5:27
  And,
• 5:28
  and
• 5:28
  when
• 5:28
  we
• 5:28
  see
• 5:29
  times,
• 5:29
  not
• 5:30
  just
• 5:30
  in
• 5:30
  these
• 5:30
  two
• 5:31
  ages
• 5:31
  of
• 5:31
  churches,
• 5:31
  but
• 5:32
  when
• 5:32
  we
• 5:32
  see
• 5:32
  times
• 5:32
  of
• 5:33
  intense
• 5:33
  persecution
• 5:34
  of
• 5:34
  Christianity,
• 5:34
  we
• 5:35
  also
• 5:35
  see
• 5:35
  the
• 5:35
  spreading
• 5:36
  of
• 5:36
  it.
• 5:36
  Yeah.
• 5:37
  And
• 5:38
  people
• 5:38
  really
• 5:39
  grasping
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  faith
• 5:41
  in
• 5:41
  a
• 5:41
  much
• 5:41
  more,
• 5:42
  I
• 5:42
  would
• 5:42
  say
• 5:42
  a
• 5:43
  solid
• 5:43
  way
• 5:43
  versus
• 5:45
  kind
• 5:45
  of
• 5:45
  that
• 5:45
  comfortable,
• 5:46
  kick
• 5:47
  your
• 5:47
  feet
• 5:47
  up,
• 5:49
  kind
• 5:49
  of
• 5:49
  take
• 5:49
  it
• 5:50
  for
• 5:50
  granted
• 5:50
  type
• 5:50
  of
• 5:50
  way.
• 5:51
  I
• 5:51
  guess
• 5:51
  a
• 5:51
  little
• 5:51
  bit
• 5:51
  too
• 5:52
  comfortable.
• 5:52
  But
• 5:53
  let's
• 5:54
  stop
• 5:54
  right
• 5:54
  there
• 5:55
  for
• 5:55
  a
• 5:55
  second
• 5:55
  because
• 5:56
  when
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  unbelievers
• 6:00
  in
• 6:01
  these
• 6:01
  new
• 6:01
  areas
• 6:03
  are
• 6:03
  witnessing
• 6:04
  these
• 6:05
  self
• 6:05
  professed
• 6:06
  Christians
• 6:07
  being
• 6:07
  persecuted
• 6:08
  for
• 6:09
  sharing
• 6:09
  the
• 6:09
  gospel,
• 6:10
  continuing
• 6:11
  to
• 6:11
  live
• 6:12
  their
• 6:13
  life,
• 6:14
  serving
• 6:14
  the
• 6:14
  Lord,
• 6:15
  refusing
• 6:17
  to
• 6:17
  deny,
• 6:18
  refusing
• 6:18
  to
• 6:19
  stop
• 6:19
  preaching,
• 6:20
  what
• 6:21
  are
• 6:21
  they
• 6:21
  saying?
• 6:22
  There's
• 6:22
  something
• 6:22
  to
• 6:23
  this.
• 6:23
  I
• 6:24
  want
• 6:24
  what
• 6:24
  they
• 6:24
  got,
• 6:25
  you
• 6:26
  know,
• 6:26
  and
• 6:27
  so
• 6:27
  we
• 6:27
  call
• 6:28
  that
• 6:28
  revival,
• 6:30
  you
• 6:30
  know,
• 6:31
  and
• 6:31
  you
• 6:31
  know,
• 6:31
  the
• 6:31
  revival
• 6:32
  is
• 6:32
  for
• 6:32
  the
• 6:33
  church
• 6:33
  folks,
• 6:34
  but
• 6:34
  at
• 6:34
  this,
• 6:34
  and
• 6:34
  it
• 6:35
  is
• 6:35
  taking
• 6:36
  place
• 6:36
  then
• 6:37
  because,
• 6:38
  you
• 6:38
  know,
• 6:38
  here,
• 6:39
  you
• 6:39
  know,
• 6:40
  Sam
• 6:41
  and
• 6:42
  Sally
• 6:43
  and
• 6:43
  their
• 6:44
  three
• 6:44
  kids
• 6:44
  or
• 6:44
  whatever
• 6:45
  have
• 6:45
  fled
• 6:45
  this
• 6:46
  area.
• 6:46
  And
• 6:46
  they're
• 6:46
  in
• 6:47
  this
• 6:47
  area
• 6:47
  now
• 6:47
  where
• 6:47
  nobody
• 6:48
  knows
• 6:48
  who
• 6:48
  they
• 6:48
  are
• 6:49
  and
• 6:49
  all
• 6:49
  this.
• 6:49
  And
• 6:50
  they're
• 6:50
  like,
• 6:50
  you
• 6:51
  know,
• 6:52
  this
• 6:52
  really
• 6:53
  worth
• 6:53
  it?
• 6:54
  You
• 6:54
  know,
• 6:54
  is
• 6:54
  this,
• 6:56
  am
• 6:56
  I
• 6:57
  doing
• 6:57
  the
• 6:57
  right
• 6:57
  thing?
• 6:58
  And,
• 6:59
  you
• 6:59
  know,
• 6:59
  then
• 6:59
  they're
• 7:00
  faced
• 7:01
  with
• 7:01
  a
• 7:01
  situation,
• 7:01
  said,
• 7:02
  no,
• 7:02
  I'm
• 7:02
  not
• 7:02
  doing
• 7:02
  that
• 7:03
  because
• 7:03
  I
• 7:03
  don't
• 7:04
  do
• 7:04
  that.
• 7:04
  You
• 7:04
  know,
• 7:05
  and
• 7:05
  then
• 7:05
  they
• 7:05
  start
• 7:06
  answering,
• 7:06
  well,
• 7:06
  what
• 7:07
  do
• 7:07
  you
• 7:07
  mean
• 7:07
  you
• 7:07
  don't
• 7:07
  do
• 7:07
  that?
• 7:07
  Why
• 7:08
  don't
• 7:08
  you
• 7:08
  do
• 7:08
  this?
• 7:09
  Well,
• 7:09
  because
• 7:09
  of
• 7:10
  Jesus.
• 7:10
  And
• 7:10
  they
• 7:10
  share
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  Gospel.
• 7:11
  And
• 7:12
  all
• 7:12
  of
• 7:12
  a
• 7:12
  sudden
• 7:12
  they
• 7:12
  see,
• 7:14
  wow,
• 7:14
  you
• 7:15
  know,
• 7:15
  yeah,
• 7:16
  we're
• 7:16
  bringing
• 7:16
  the
• 7:17
  gospel
• 7:17
  here.
• 7:17
  And,
• 7:17
  you
• 7:18
  know,
• 7:18
  people
• 7:18
  are
• 7:18
  coming
• 7:19
  to
• 7:19
  us
• 7:19
  now
• 7:19
  and
• 7:20
  they're
• 7:20
  holding
• 7:20
  their
• 7:20
  little
• 7:21
  secret
• 7:21
  church
• 7:21
  meetings,
• 7:22
  you
• 7:22
  know,
• 7:22
  in
• 7:22
  house
• 7:23
  meeting
• 7:23
  house
• 7:23
  church
• 7:24
  meetings.
• 7:24
  And.
• 7:25
  And
• 7:25
  so
• 7:26
  that
• 7:27
  shows
• 7:28
  them
• 7:28
  that
• 7:28
  the
• 7:28
  Lord's
• 7:29
  using
• 7:29
  them
• 7:29
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• 7:30
  reach
• 7:31
  that
• 7:31
  people
• 7:32
  group,
• 7:32
  you
• 7:32
  know,
• 7:33
  and
• 7:33
  so
• 7:33
  that
• 7:33
  sparks
• 7:34
  that
• 7:34
  revival.
• 7:35
  That
• 7:35
  just
• 7:35
  keeps
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  fire
• 7:36
  spreading.
• 7:37
  And
• 7:37
  yeah,
• 7:38
  I
• 7:38
  mean,
• 7:38
  persecution
• 7:40
  brings
• 7:40
  revival.
• 7:41
  Put
• 7:41
  it
• 7:41
  like
• 7:42
  that,
• 7:42
  it
• 7:43
  definitely
• 7:43
  does.
• 7:43
  And
• 7:44
  we
• 7:44
  see
• 7:45
  that
• 7:45
  through
• 7:45
  both
• 7:45
  the
• 7:46
  first
• 7:46
  and
• 7:46
  the
• 7:46
  Second
• 7:46
  ages
• 7:47
  of
• 7:47
  the
• 7:47
  Church,
• 7:48
  and
• 7:49
  that
• 7:49
  spread
• 7:50
  during
• 7:50
  that
• 7:51
  time
• 7:52
  will.
• 7:53
  Will
• 7:53
  take
• 7:53
  hold
• 7:54
  in
• 7:54
  the
• 7:54
  Roman
• 7:54
  Empire
• 7:55
  itself.
• 7:56
  So
• 7:56
  what
• 7:56
  eventually
• 7:57
  will
• 7:57
  happen
• 7:57
  is,
• 7:58
  is
• 7:58
  of
• 7:58
  course,
• 7:58
  you
• 7:59
  guys
• 7:59
  can
• 7:59
  read
• 7:59
  the
• 8:00
  story
• 8:00
  of,
• 8:01
  you
• 8:01
  know,
• 8:01
  the,
• 8:01
  the
• 8:02
  battle,
• 8:02
  and
• 8:02
  Constantine
• 8:03
  sees
• 8:04
  the
• 8:04
  vision,
• 8:04
  and
• 8:05
  they
• 8:05
  advance
• 8:05
  forward
• 8:06
  and
• 8:06
  they
• 8:06
  fight
• 8:06
  the
• 8:06
  battle
• 8:07
  and
• 8:07
  win.
• 8:07
  And.
• 8:08
  And
• 8:09
  then
• 8:09
  we
• 8:09
  have
• 8:09
  afterwards
• 8:10
  the
• 8:10
  Edict
• 8:10
  of
• 8:10
  Milan.
• 8:12
  So
• 8:13
  I've.
• 8:14
  I've
• 8:14
  read
• 8:14
  this
• 8:15
  from
• 8:16
  some
• 8:16
  scholars
• 8:16
  that
• 8:17
  that
• 8:17
  was
• 8:17
  the
• 8:17
  start
• 8:17
  of
• 8:18
  the
• 8:18
  Third
• 8:18
  age
• 8:18
  of
• 8:18
  the
• 8:18
  Church.
• 8:19
  And
• 8:20
  as
• 8:20
  I
• 8:21
  looked
• 8:21
  at
• 8:22
  how
• 8:22
  it
• 8:22
  was
• 8:22
  all
• 8:22
  organized
• 8:23
  from
• 8:24
  start
• 8:24
  to
• 8:24
  finish
• 8:25
  and
• 8:26
  praying
• 8:27
  about
• 8:27
  it,
• 8:28
  really
• 8:28
  what
• 8:28
  the
• 8:28
  Edict
• 8:29
  of
• 8:29
  Milan
• 8:29
  is,
• 8:31
  it's
• 8:31
  kind
• 8:31
  of
• 8:31
  that
• 8:32
  spark
• 8:33
  that
• 8:33
  starts
• 8:34
  the
• 8:34
  transition.
• 8:36
  But
• 8:36
  the
• 8:36
  Edict
• 8:36
  of
• 8:36
  Milan
• 8:37
  actually
• 8:37
  is
• 8:37
  part
• 8:38
  of
• 8:38
  the
• 8:38
  Second
• 8:38
  Age
• 8:38
  of
• 8:38
  the
• 8:38
  Church.
• 8:39
  It's
• 8:39
  the
• 8:39
  end
• 8:39
  of
• 8:39
  the
• 8:40
  Second
• 8:40
  Age
• 8:40
  of
• 8:40
  the
• 8:40
  Church.
• 8:41
  And
• 8:42
  what
• 8:42
  is
• 8:42
  really
• 8:42
  the
• 8:43
  start
• 8:43
  of
• 8:43
  the
• 8:43
  Third
• 8:43
  Age
• 8:44
  of
• 8:44
  the
• 8:44
  Church
• 8:44
  is
• 8:44
  Constantine
• 8:45
  being
• 8:45
  baptized.
• 8:47
  Because
• 8:48
  that
• 8:48
  is
• 8:49
  that
• 8:49
  moment
• 8:50
  when
• 8:50
  the
• 8:51
  person
• 8:51
  who
• 8:52
  has
• 8:52
  the
• 8:52
  most
• 8:53
  power
• 8:53
  on
• 8:53
  earth,
• 8:53
  other
• 8:54
  than
• 8:54
  God
• 8:54
  himself,
• 8:57
  takes
• 8:57
  Christianity
• 8:58
  and
• 8:58
  says,
• 8:59
  I
• 8:59
  am
• 8:59
  a
• 8:59
  part
• 8:59
  of
• 9:00
  this.
• 9:00
  That's
• 9:01
  when
• 9:01
  it
• 9:01
  happened.
• 9:02
  Because
• 9:02
  even
• 9:02
  after
• 9:03
  the
• 9:03
  Edict
• 9:03
  of
• 9:03
  Milan,
• 9:04
  there
• 9:04
  was
• 9:05
  still
• 9:05
  some
• 9:05
  persecution
• 9:06
  going
• 9:06
  on.
• 9:06
  There
• 9:07
  was
• 9:07
  still
• 9:07
  lots
• 9:07
  of
• 9:07
  turmoil.
• 9:08
  It
• 9:09
  just
• 9:09
  was
• 9:09
  starting
• 9:09
  to
• 9:10
  die
• 9:10
  off.
• 9:11
  And
• 9:11
  it
• 9:12
  won't
• 9:12
  be
• 9:12
  quite
• 9:12
  as
• 9:12
  intense
• 9:13
  as
• 9:13
  it
• 9:13
  was,
• 9:13
  obviously.
• 9:15
  And
• 9:17
  it's
• 9:17
  a
• 9:17
  little
• 9:17
  more
• 9:18
  subtle,
• 9:19
  some
• 9:19
  of
• 9:19
  this,
• 9:20
  because
• 9:20
  there's
• 9:20
  still
• 9:20
  a
• 9:21
  lot
• 9:21
  of
• 9:21
  feuding
• 9:21
  going
• 9:21
  on,
• 9:21
  and
• 9:22
  there's
• 9:22
  a
• 9:22
  lot
• 9:22
  of
• 9:22
  feuding
• 9:22
  going
• 9:23
  on
• 9:23
  in
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  Church,
• 9:23
  which
• 9:24
  is
• 9:24
  also
• 9:24
  another
• 9:25
  significant
• 9:25
  characteristic
• 9:26
  of
• 9:26
  the
• 9:27
  Second
• 9:27
  Age
• 9:27
  of
• 9:27
  the
• 9:27
  Church
• 9:28
  is
• 9:28
  that
• 9:29
  they
• 9:29
  were
• 9:29
  in
• 9:30
  theological
• 9:30
  turmoil.
• 9:33
  They
• 9:33
  had
• 9:33
  not
• 9:34
  totally
• 9:34
  embraced
• 9:35
  what
• 9:35
  the
• 9:35
  Sacred
• 9:35
  writings
• 9:36
  were
• 9:36
  going
• 9:36
  to
• 9:36
  be,
• 9:36
  which
• 9:37
  we
• 9:37
  will
• 9:37
  eventually
• 9:37
  call
• 9:38
  the
• 9:38
  New
• 9:38
  Testament.
• 9:40
  They
• 9:40
  had
• 9:40
  not
• 9:40
  totally
• 9:41
  embraced
• 9:42
  theology.
• 9:42
  There
• 9:42
  were
• 9:43
  so
• 9:43
  many
• 9:43
  schisms
• 9:45
  during
• 9:45
  these
• 9:45
  periods
• 9:46
  of
• 9:46
  time.
• 9:47
  I
• 9:47
  mean,
• 9:47
  I
• 9:48
  can't
• 9:48
  read
• 9:48
  them
• 9:48
  all
• 9:48
  off.
• 9:49
  We.
• 9:49
  We
• 9:50
  could
• 9:50
  spend
• 9:50
  three
• 9:51
  days
• 9:51
  doing
• 9:52
  one
• 9:52
  podcast.
• 9:54
  Hey,
• 9:55
  we
• 9:55
  could
• 9:55
  go
• 9:55
  72
• 9:56
  straight
• 9:56
  hours
• 9:57
  and
• 9:57
  not
• 9:57
  cover
• 9:58
  them.
• 9:58
  Cover
• 9:58
  all
• 9:59
  of
• 9:59
  what
• 9:59
  happened.
• 10:00
  That's
• 10:01
  how
• 10:01
  many
• 10:01
  there
• 10:01
  was
• 10:01
  going
• 10:02
  on.
• 10:02
  So
• 10:03
  if
• 10:03
  you
• 10:03
  want
• 10:03
  to
• 10:03
  read
• 10:04
  that,
• 10:04
  research
• 10:04
  it
• 10:05
  yourself.
• 10:05
  I've
• 10:05
  researched
• 10:06
  some
• 10:06
  of
• 10:06
  it.
• 10:06
  It
• 10:06
  finally
• 10:07
  got
• 10:07
  to
• 10:07
  the
• 10:07
  point
• 10:07
  where,
• 10:08
  I
• 10:08
  mean,
• 10:09
  and
• 10:09
  I've
• 10:09
  read
• 10:10
  some
• 10:10
  of
• 10:10
  that
• 10:10
  back
• 10:10
  when
• 10:10
  I
• 10:11
  was
• 10:11
  younger,
• 10:11
  a
• 10:12
  lot
• 10:12
  of
• 10:12
  it.
• 10:12
  But
• 10:13
  there's
• 10:14
  no
• 10:14
  way
• 10:14
  to
• 10:16
  keep
• 10:16
  all
• 10:16
  that
• 10:16
  in
• 10:16
  your
• 10:17
  brain,
• 10:18
  remember,
• 10:19
  but
• 10:19
  just
• 10:19
  know,
• 10:19
  and
• 10:20
  for
• 10:20
  our
• 10:20
  intents
• 10:20
  and
• 10:20
  purposes,
• 10:21
  is
• 10:21
  that
• 10:21
  there
• 10:21
  was
• 10:22
  a
• 10:22
  lot
• 10:22
  of
• 10:22
  this
• 10:22
  going
• 10:22
  on.
• 10:23
  And
• 10:23
  some
• 10:23
  of
• 10:23
  this
• 10:24
  still
• 10:24
  went
• 10:24
  on
• 10:24
  in
• 10:24
  the
• 10:24
  third
• 10:24
  age
• 10:25
  of
• 10:25
  the
• 10:25
  Church.
• 10:26
  But
• 10:26
  what
• 10:26
  happens
• 10:27
  is
• 10:27
  when
• 10:28
  we
• 10:28
  transition
• 10:28
  and
• 10:29
  Constantine
• 10:30
  starts
• 10:30
  calling
• 10:31
  order
• 10:31
  councils,
• 10:32
  and
• 10:33
  there's
• 10:34
  starting
• 10:34
  to
• 10:34
  become
• 10:34
  that
• 10:34
  acceptability
• 10:35
  of
• 10:35
  Christianity,
• 10:37
  and
• 10:38
  it's
• 10:38
  coming
• 10:38
  into
• 10:38
  the
• 10:39
  Empire
• 10:40
  now.
• 10:40
  We
• 10:41
  start
• 10:41
  seeing
• 10:41
  some
• 10:42
  settling
• 10:42
  here.
• 10:43
  Constantine
• 10:44
  gets
• 10:44
  baptized,
• 10:45
  he
• 10:45
  dies.
• 10:46
  That
• 10:46
  is
• 10:46
  the
• 10:47
  trigger
• 10:47
  point
• 10:48
  that
• 10:48
  kicks
• 10:48
  us
• 10:48
  into
• 10:49
  the
• 10:49
  third
• 10:49
  age
• 10:49
  of
• 10:49
  the
• 10:49
  Church.
• 10:50
  And
• 10:50
  from
• 10:50
  that
• 10:51
  point
• 10:51
  forward,
• 10:53
  then
• 10:53
  what
• 10:54
  happens
• 10:54
  is
• 10:54
  the
• 10:54
  church
• 10:55
  really
• 10:55
  starts
• 10:56
  to
• 10:56
  hone
• 10:56
  in
• 10:56
  on
• 10:56
  its
• 10:57
  theology,
• 10:58
  and
• 10:59
  it
• 10:59
  really
• 10:59
  starts
• 10:59
  to
• 11:00
  hone
• 11:00
  in
• 11:01
  on
• 11:01
  what
• 11:02
  are
• 11:02
  these
• 11:02
  sacred
• 11:03
  writings.
• 11:03
  And
• 11:04
  you'll
• 11:04
  see
• 11:04
  all
• 11:04
  these
• 11:04
  councils.
• 11:05
  And
• 11:05
  there
• 11:05
  were
• 11:05
  some
• 11:05
  councils
• 11:06
  before
• 11:06
  that
• 11:06
  that
• 11:07
  this
• 11:07
  isn't
• 11:07
  the
• 11:07
  first
• 11:07
  time
• 11:08
  that's
• 11:08
  happened,
• 11:09
  but
• 11:09
  through
• 11:09
  these
• 11:09
  councils,
• 11:10
  through
• 11:10
  all
• 11:11
  the.
• 11:12
  Really
• 11:12
  the
• 11:12
  transaction
• 11:13
  and
• 11:14
  between
• 11:14
  all
• 11:15
  of
• 11:15
  these
• 11:15
  guys
• 11:15
  and
• 11:16
  all
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  different
• 11:17
  writings
• 11:18
  and
• 11:18
  I
• 11:18
  mean,
• 11:19
  it's.
• 11:19
  And
• 11:19
  it.
• 11:19
  There's
• 11:20
  a
• 11:20
  plethora
• 11:21
  of
• 11:21
  this
• 11:21
  going
• 11:22
  on
• 11:22
  in
• 11:22
  the
• 11:22
  Empire
• 11:23
  at
• 11:23
  the
• 11:23
  time.
• 11:24
  They're
• 11:25
  trying
• 11:25
  to
• 11:25
  figure
• 11:25
  all
• 11:26
  this
• 11:26
  out
• 11:26
  and
• 11:27
  try
• 11:27
  to
• 11:27
  really
• 11:28
  almost
• 11:29
  institutionalize
• 11:29
  the
• 11:30
  church,
• 11:30
  which
• 11:30
  is
• 11:30
  eventually
• 11:31
  what
• 11:31
  they'll
• 11:31
  do.
• 11:32
  So
• 11:32
  what
• 11:32
  happens
• 11:33
  is
• 11:33
  we
• 11:33
  have
• 11:34
  also
• 11:34
  a
• 11:34
  group
• 11:34
  of
• 11:35
  guys
• 11:35
  that
• 11:35
  start
• 11:36
  in
• 11:36
  the
• 11:36
  second
• 11:36
  age
• 11:36
  of
• 11:36
  the
• 11:37
  church
• 11:38
  who
• 11:38
  a
• 11:38
  lot
• 11:38
  of
• 11:38
  people
• 11:39
  would
• 11:39
  know
• 11:39
  as
• 11:39
  St.
• 11:39
  Anthony.
• 11:40
  And
• 11:42
  he
• 11:42
  becomes
• 11:43
  kind
• 11:43
  of
• 11:43
  the
• 11:43
  start
• 11:43
  of
• 11:44
  this
• 11:44
  Desert
• 11:44
  Fathers
• 11:45
  movement.
• 11:46
  He
• 11:47
  lives
• 11:47
  for
• 11:47
  105
• 11:48
  years.
• 11:48
  Athanasius
• 11:49
  will
• 11:49
  write
• 11:50
  about
• 11:50
  him,
• 11:51
  and
• 11:51
  so
• 11:52
  will
• 11:52
  get.
• 11:53
  There's
• 11:53
  a
• 11:53
  lot
• 11:54
  of
• 11:54
  our
• 11:54
  theology
• 11:54
  that
• 11:55
  comes
• 11:55
  from
• 11:55
  these
• 11:56
  guys.
• 11:56
  To
• 11:57
  not.
• 11:57
  To
• 11:57
  not
• 11:58
  study
• 11:58
  them
• 11:58
  is
• 11:59
  really
• 11:59
  a
• 11:59
  mistake,
• 12:00
  because
• 12:01
  even
• 12:01
  though
• 12:01
  they
• 12:02
  lit.
• 12:02
  That
• 12:02
  was
• 12:03
  the
• 12:03
  start
• 12:03
  of
• 12:03
  the
• 12:03
  monastic
• 12:04
  lifestyle,
• 12:04
  which,
• 12:05
  you
• 12:05
  know,
• 12:05
  living
• 12:06
  in
• 12:06
  the
• 12:06
  monasteries
• 12:07
  and
• 12:07
  seclusion
• 12:08
  and
• 12:08
  more
• 12:08
  poverty
• 12:09
  and
• 12:10
  not,
• 12:11
  you
• 12:11
  know,
• 12:11
  not
• 12:12
  living
• 12:12
  for
• 12:12
  the
• 12:12
  world,
• 12:12
  but
• 12:13
  simply
• 12:13
  living
• 12:13
  for
• 12:13
  Jesus
• 12:14
  and
• 12:14
  living
• 12:15
  in
• 12:16
  style
• 12:16
  the
• 12:16
  way
• 12:16
  Jesus
• 12:17
  did.
• 12:18
  Okay.
• 12:19
  This
• 12:19
  is
• 12:19
  the
• 12:19
  start
• 12:19
  of
• 12:20
  that
• 12:20
  as
• 12:20
  well.
• 12:21
  Well,
• 12:21
  let
• 12:21
  me
• 12:21
  ask
• 12:22
  you
• 12:22
  right
• 12:22
  here.
• 12:22
  Yes.
• 12:23
  What
• 12:23
  Were
• 12:23
  they
• 12:24
  studying
• 12:24
  if
• 12:24
  we
• 12:25
  didn't
• 12:25
  have
• 12:25
  any
• 12:25
  of
• 12:25
  the
• 12:25
  written
• 12:26
  word?
• 12:27
  Well,
• 12:27
  that's
• 12:28
  interesting.
• 12:28
  They
• 12:28
  had
• 12:29
  these
• 12:29
  writings.
• 12:30
  They
• 12:30
  were
• 12:30
  studying
• 12:31
  all
• 12:31
  of
• 12:31
  it.
• 12:31
  You
• 12:32
  know,
• 12:32
  they
• 12:32
  would.
• 12:32
  They
• 12:33
  would
• 12:33
  look
• 12:33
  at
• 12:33
  it.
• 12:33
  And
• 12:34
  what's
• 12:34
  funny
• 12:34
  is,
• 12:34
  is
• 12:35
  through
• 12:35
  this
• 12:35
  period
• 12:35
  of
• 12:36
  time,
• 12:37
  in
• 12:37
  the
• 12:37
  1000s
• 12:38
  and
• 12:38
  the
• 12:38
  2000s
• 12:39
  and
• 12:39
  even
• 12:39
  into
• 12:39
  the
• 12:40
  early
• 12:40
  3000s,
• 12:41
  they
• 12:42
  were
• 12:42
  starting
• 12:42
  to
• 12:43
  see
• 12:43
  that
• 12:44
  the
• 12:44
  27
• 12:45
  writings
• 12:45
  that
• 12:45
  will
• 12:45
  eventually
• 12:46
  adopt
• 12:46
  as
• 12:47
  the
• 12:47
  New
• 12:47
  Testament,
• 12:48
  that
• 12:48
  will
• 12:48
  be
• 12:48
  adopted
• 12:49
  in
• 12:49
  397,
• 12:49
  and
• 12:50
  then
• 12:51
  a
• 12:51
  little
• 12:51
  bit
• 12:51
  in
• 12:52
  the
• 12:52
  early
• 12:52
  400s,
• 12:53
  this
• 12:53
  will
• 12:53
  all
• 12:54
  come
• 12:54
  together.
• 12:55
  And
• 12:56
  Athanasius,
• 12:56
  of
• 12:57
  course,
• 12:57
  in
• 12:57
  367
• 12:58
  with
• 12:58
  his
• 12:58
  festival
• 12:58
  letter,
• 13:00
  they'll
• 13:00
  start
• 13:01
  settling
• 13:01
  in
• 13:01
  on
• 13:02
  those
• 13:02
  27.
• 13:04
  But
• 13:05
  they
• 13:05
  also
• 13:05
  still
• 13:06
  put
• 13:06
  a
• 13:06
  lot
• 13:06
  of
• 13:06
  value
• 13:07
  in
• 13:07
  the
• 13:07
  other
• 13:07
  ones
• 13:08
  that
• 13:08
  weren't
• 13:08
  considered
• 13:09
  sacred
• 13:09
  writings,
• 13:10
  which
• 13:11
  what
• 13:11
  they
• 13:12
  mean
• 13:12
  by
• 13:12
  that
• 13:12
  is,
• 13:12
  is
• 13:13
  what
• 13:13
  would
• 13:13
  be
• 13:13
  read
• 13:14
  during
• 13:14
  a
• 13:14
  church
• 13:14
  session,
• 13:16
  okay?
• 13:16
  So
• 13:16
  when
• 13:17
  they
• 13:17
  would
• 13:17
  go
• 13:17
  to
• 13:17
  a
• 13:17
  worship
• 13:18
  session,
• 13:18
  they
• 13:18
  would
• 13:18
  not
• 13:19
  read
• 13:19
  the
• 13:19
  other
• 13:19
  things,
• 13:20
  but
• 13:20
  outside
• 13:20
  of
• 13:21
  that,
• 13:21
  they
• 13:21
  would.
• 13:21
  And
• 13:22
  they
• 13:22
  still
• 13:22
  put
• 13:22
  a
• 13:22
  lot
• 13:23
  of
• 13:23
  value
• 13:23
  in
• 13:23
  them.
• 13:24
  You
• 13:25
  know,
• 13:25
  it's
• 13:25
  just
• 13:25
  like
• 13:26
  in
• 13:26
  Israel,
• 13:27
  the
• 13:27
  first
• 13:27
  five
• 13:28
  books
• 13:28
  of
• 13:28
  the
• 13:28
  Bible,
• 13:29
  the
• 13:29
  Torah,
• 13:30
  okay,
• 13:31
  that
• 13:31
  is
• 13:32
  considered
• 13:32
  the
• 13:33
  highest
• 13:33
  sacred
• 13:33
  writing
• 13:34
  in
• 13:34
  Jewish.
• 13:35
  In
• 13:35
  the
• 13:35
  Jewish
• 13:35
  faith.
• 13:36
  All
• 13:37
  the
• 13:37
  other
• 13:37
  writings,
• 13:37
  even
• 13:38
  what's
• 13:38
  included
• 13:38
  in
• 13:38
  the
• 13:38
  Old
• 13:38
  Testament,
• 13:39
  are
• 13:39
  not
• 13:39
  quite
• 13:40
  as
• 13:40
  sacred
• 13:40
  as
• 13:40
  those.
• 13:41
  Those
• 13:41
  are.
• 13:41
  Those
• 13:42
  are
• 13:42
  all
• 13:42
  kind
• 13:42
  of
• 13:43
  the
• 13:43
  surrounding
• 13:44
  things.
• 13:45
  And
• 13:45
  then
• 13:45
  the
• 13:45
  core
• 13:46
  is
• 13:46
  the
• 13:46
  Torah.
• 13:47
  That's
• 13:47
  the
• 13:47
  way
• 13:47
  to
• 13:48
  look
• 13:48
  at
• 13:48
  it
• 13:48
  from
• 13:49
  a
• 13:49
  Jewish
• 13:49
  perspective.
• 13:50
  Truly,
• 13:50
  it
• 13:50
  is.
• 13:51
  You
• 13:51
  know,
• 13:51
  we
• 13:51
  look
• 13:52
  at
• 13:52
  the
• 13:52
  Old
• 13:52
  Testament
• 13:52
  is
• 13:52
  all
• 13:53
  the
• 13:53
  same.
• 13:53
  Jews
• 13:54
  don't.
• 13:54
  The
• 13:55
  five
• 13:55
  books
• 13:55
  of
• 13:55
  the
• 13:55
  Torah,
• 13:56
  that
• 13:56
  is
• 13:57
  the
• 13:57
  key
• 13:57
  concept.
• 13:57
  That
• 13:58
  is
• 13:58
  their
• 13:58
  core.
• 13:59
  And
• 13:59
  really,
• 13:59
  the
• 14:00
  rest
• 14:00
  of
• 14:00
  the
• 14:00
  Old
• 14:00
  Testament
• 14:01
  is
• 14:01
  centered
• 14:01
  around
• 14:02
  those
• 14:02
  five
• 14:03
  books.
• 14:03
  Much
• 14:03
  of
• 14:03
  our
• 14:04
  faith
• 14:04
  is.
• 14:05
  Yep,
• 14:05
  it
• 14:06
  really
• 14:06
  is.
• 14:06
  I
• 14:06
  mean,
• 14:06
  you
• 14:06
  know,
• 14:07
  and
• 14:07
  some
• 14:08
  of
• 14:08
  that
• 14:08
  and
• 14:08
  all
• 14:08
  that
• 14:08
  kind
• 14:08
  of
• 14:09
  stuff
• 14:09
  will
• 14:09
  start
• 14:09
  being
• 14:09
  established
• 14:10
  during
• 14:10
  this
• 14:10
  third
• 14:11
  age
• 14:11
  of
• 14:11
  the
• 14:11
  Church.
• 14:12
  It
• 14:12
  had
• 14:12
  been
• 14:12
  discussed
• 14:14
  and
• 14:14
  there
• 14:14
  were
• 14:14
  people
• 14:15
  who
• 14:15
  had
• 14:15
  settled
• 14:15
  in
• 14:16
  on
• 14:16
  this,
• 14:17
  but
• 14:17
  it.
• 14:17
  But
• 14:18
  that
• 14:18
  philosophy
• 14:19
  was
• 14:19
  not
• 14:19
  widespread
• 14:19
  yet.
• 14:20
  There
• 14:20
  were
• 14:21
  still
• 14:21
  all
• 14:21
  these
• 14:21
  pockets
• 14:22
  doing
• 14:22
  all
• 14:22
  their
• 14:22
  different
• 14:23
  things.
• 14:24
  And
• 14:24
  eventually
• 14:25
  we
• 14:26
  get
• 14:26
  a
• 14:27
  little
• 14:27
  bit
• 14:27
  more
• 14:27
  of
• 14:27
  a
• 14:27
  unified
• 14:28
  system,
• 14:29
  as
• 14:29
  when
• 14:29
  we
• 14:30
  get
• 14:30
  into
• 14:30
  the
• 14:30
  third
• 14:30
  age
• 14:30
  of
• 14:31
  the
• 14:31
  church.
• 14:31
  And
• 14:31
  that'll
• 14:32
  be
• 14:32
  a
• 14:32
  significant
• 14:32
  characteristic.
• 14:33
  And
• 14:34
  that
• 14:34
  will
• 14:34
  help
• 14:34
  lead
• 14:35
  to
• 14:35
  the
• 14:35
  institution
• 14:36
  of
• 14:36
  the
• 14:36
  Church,
• 14:37
  which
• 14:38
  will
• 14:38
  really
• 14:38
  take
• 14:39
  hold
• 14:40
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• 14:44
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• 14:45
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• 14:46
  back
• 14:46
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• 14:46
  after
• 14:47
  Rome
• 14:47
  had
• 14:47
  fallen,
• 14:48
  the
• 14:49
  Roman
• 14:49
  Empire
• 14:49
  had
• 14:49
  fallen,
• 14:50
  now
• 14:50
  the
• 14:50
  Byzantines
• 14:50
  retake
• 14:51
  Rome.
• 14:51
  When
• 14:52
  they
• 14:52
  take
• 14:52
  it,
• 14:53
  that's
• 14:53
  really
• 14:54
  the
• 14:54
  start
• 14:54
  of
• 14:54
  the
• 14:54
  authority
• 14:55
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• 14:55
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• 14:55
  Holy
• 14:56
  Roman
• 14:56
  Church.
• 14:57
  And
• 14:57
  so
• 14:58
  that
• 14:58
  will
• 14:58
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• 14:58
  That
• 14:59
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• 14:59
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• 14:59
  of
• 14:59
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• 14:59
  that
• 14:59
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• 14:59
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• 15:00
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• 15:00
  completely
• 15:01
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• 15:01
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• 15:02
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• 15:02
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• 15:02
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• 15:03
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• 15:03
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• 15:04
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• 15:04
  this
• 15:04
  third
• 15:05
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• 15:05
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• 15:05
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• 15:05
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• 15:06
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• 15:06
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• 15:06
  them
• 15:07
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• 15:07
  in
• 15:07
  on
• 15:08
  the
• 15:08
  development.
• 15:08
  So
• 15:09
  if
• 15:09
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• 15:09
  thinking
• 15:09
  of
• 15:09
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• 15:09
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• 15:09
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• 15:10
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• 15:10
  a
• 15:10
  corporation,
• 15:11
  corporations
• 15:12
  usually
• 15:12
  start
• 15:12
  with
• 15:12
  a
• 15:13
  thought
• 15:13
  and
• 15:13
  an
• 15:13
  idea.
• 15:14
  That's
• 15:14
  kind
• 15:14
  of
• 15:14
  the
• 15:14
  first
• 15:14
  stage
• 15:15
  of
• 15:15
  the
• 15:15
  church.
• 15:15
  And
• 15:16
  then
• 15:16
  there's
• 15:16
  all
• 15:16
  the
• 15:16
  scattered
• 15:17
  stuff,
• 15:17
  and
• 15:17
  it's
• 15:17
  kind
• 15:17
  of
• 15:18
  crazy.
• 15:18
  That's
• 15:18
  kind
• 15:18
  of
• 15:18
  the
• 15:19
  second
• 15:19
  age
• 15:19
  of
• 15:19
  the
• 15:19
  church.
• 15:20
  Then
• 15:20
  the
• 15:20
  third
• 15:20
  age
• 15:21
  of
• 15:21
  the
• 15:21
  church
• 15:21
  is
• 15:21
  now
• 15:21
  we're
• 15:22
  going
• 15:22
  to
• 15:22
  organize
• 15:22
  our
• 15:22
  research
• 15:24
  and
• 15:24
  our
• 15:24
  ideas,
• 15:24
  and
• 15:25
  we're
• 15:25
  going
• 15:25
  to
• 15:25
  start
• 15:25
  structuring
• 15:26
  it.
• 15:27
  And
• 15:28
  then
• 15:28
  the
• 15:28
  fourth
• 15:28
  age
• 15:29
  of
• 15:29
  the
• 15:29
  church
• 15:29
  is
• 15:30
  now
• 15:30
  we're
• 15:30
  going
• 15:30
  to
• 15:30
  make
• 15:30
  it
• 15:31
  go.
• 15:31
  Now
• 15:31
  that
• 15:32
  corporation
• 15:32
  is
• 15:33
  taken
• 15:33
  off
• 15:34
  and
• 15:35
  going
• 15:35
  mainstream.
• 15:36
  And
• 15:37
  so
• 15:37
  that's
• 15:37
  kind
• 15:37
  of
• 15:37
  the
• 15:38
  way
• 15:38
  to
• 15:38
  think
• 15:38
  of
• 15:39
  the
• 15:39
  first
• 15:40
  four
• 15:40
  ages
• 15:40
  of
• 15:40
  the
• 15:40
  Church.
• 15:42
  Truly
• 15:42
  it
• 15:42
  is.
• 15:43
  And
• 15:43
  so.
• 15:43
  And
• 15:44
  that's
• 15:44
  kind
• 15:44
  of
• 15:44
  what
• 15:44
  happens.
• 15:44
  But
• 15:45
  in
• 15:45
  this
• 15:45
  third
• 15:45
  age,
• 15:46
  this
• 15:46
  is
• 15:46
  kind
• 15:46
  of
• 15:46
  where
• 15:46
  everything
• 15:47
  starts
• 15:47
  to
• 15:47
  get
• 15:47
  structured.
• 15:48
  You
• 15:49
  know,
• 15:49
  those
• 15:49
  things
• 15:49
  had
• 15:49
  kind
• 15:50
  of
• 15:50
  been
• 15:50
  there,
• 15:51
  but
• 15:51
  not
• 15:52
  formally.
• 15:53
  And
• 15:53
  there
• 15:53
  was
• 15:53
  again,
• 15:53
  there
• 15:54
  was
• 15:54
  too
• 15:54
  many
• 15:54
  schisms.
• 15:55
  There
• 15:55
  was
• 15:55
  too
• 15:55
  many
• 15:55
  different
• 15:56
  ideas.
• 15:57
  And
• 15:57
  all
• 15:57
  of
• 15:58
  that
• 15:58
  starts
• 15:58
  to
• 15:59
  think
• 15:59
  of
• 15:59
  it
• 15:59
  as
• 15:59
  a
• 15:59
  funneling
• 16:00
  process.
• 16:00
  It
• 16:00
  all
• 16:01
  starts
• 16:01
  to
• 16:01
  get
• 16:01
  funneled
• 16:01
  in.
• 16:02
  Athanasius
• 16:03
  will
• 16:03
  be
• 16:04
  a
• 16:04
  very
• 16:04
  prominent
• 16:05
  figure
• 16:06
  during
• 16:06
  this
• 16:07
  time.
• 16:07
  This
• 16:07
  guy
• 16:07
  is
• 16:07
  going
• 16:07
  to
• 16:07
  be
• 16:08
  exiled
• 16:09
  a
• 16:09
  lot.
• 16:10
  I
• 16:11
  mean,
• 16:11
  he's
• 16:11
  going
• 16:11
  to
• 16:12
  be
• 16:12
  Archbishop
• 16:13
  of
• 16:13
  Alexandria.
• 16:14
  Okay.
• 16:15
  From
• 16:15
  like
• 16:15
  328
• 16:16
  to
• 16:16
  373
• 16:18
  is
• 16:18
  when
• 16:18
  I
• 16:18
  think
• 16:18
  he
• 16:18
  dies,
• 16:19
  if
• 16:20
  I
• 16:20
  remember
• 16:20
  correctly.
• 16:21
  Yes,
• 16:22
  he.
• 16:23
  That's
• 16:23
  correct.
• 16:24
  So,
• 16:24
  and
• 16:24
  he
• 16:24
  dies
• 16:25
  in
• 16:25
  373.
• 16:26
  Well,
• 16:26
  during
• 16:27
  this
• 16:27
  time,
• 16:28
  he's
• 16:28
  exiled
• 16:29
  like
• 16:29
  16
• 16:30
  of
• 16:30
  these
• 16:30
  years,
• 16:31
  off
• 16:32
  and
• 16:32
  on.
• 16:32
  I
• 16:32
  mean,
• 16:32
  it's,
• 16:33
  it's,
• 16:33
  it's
• 16:33
  a
• 16:34
  roller
• 16:34
  coaster.
• 16:35
  But
• 16:35
  what
• 16:35
  he
• 16:35
  would
• 16:36
  do
• 16:36
  a
• 16:36
  lot
• 16:36
  of
• 16:36
  times,
• 16:36
  not
• 16:37
  every
• 16:37
  time,
• 16:37
  but
• 16:37
  he
• 16:37
  would
• 16:37
  retreat
• 16:38
  to
• 16:38
  the
• 16:38
  desert
• 16:38
  Fathers
• 16:40
  and
• 16:41
  he
• 16:41
  would
• 16:41
  fast
• 16:41
  and
• 16:41
  pray
• 16:42
  with
• 16:42
  these
• 16:42
  guys.
• 16:42
  And
• 16:43
  I
• 16:43
  sometimes
• 16:44
  wonder
• 16:44
  if
• 16:44
  a
• 16:44
  lot
• 16:44
  of
• 16:45
  what
• 16:45
  his
• 16:45
  theology
• 16:46
  is
• 16:46
  that
• 16:46
  he
• 16:47
  shares
• 16:47
  with
• 16:47
  people
• 16:47
  in
• 16:48
  his
• 16:48
  writings
• 16:48
  and
• 16:48
  all
• 16:49
  this
• 16:49
  stuff
• 16:50
  that
• 16:50
  really
• 16:51
  takes
• 16:51
  hold
• 16:51
  in
• 16:52
  Christianity
• 16:52
  later
• 16:53
  on
• 16:53
  and
• 16:54
  becomes
• 16:54
  a
• 16:54
  lot
• 16:54
  of
• 16:54
  our
• 16:55
  theological
• 16:55
  basis.
• 16:57
  You
• 16:57
  can
• 16:57
  go
• 16:57
  back
• 16:57
  and
• 16:57
  read
• 16:58
  his
• 16:58
  writings.
• 16:59
  I
• 17:00
  think
• 17:00
  it
• 17:00
  comes
• 17:00
  from
• 17:00
  these
• 17:00
  desert
• 17:01
  fathers,
• 17:01
  him
• 17:01
  spending
• 17:02
  that
• 17:02
  time
• 17:02
  with
• 17:03
  them
• 17:03
  in
• 17:03
  that
• 17:04
  seclusion.
• 17:05
  So
• 17:06
  in
• 17:06
  many
• 17:06
  ways,
• 17:07
  his
• 17:08
  exile
• 17:08
  time
• 17:09
  was
• 17:09
  probably
• 17:09
  more
• 17:10
  valuable
• 17:10
  to
• 17:10
  us
• 17:10
  than
• 17:11
  his
• 17:11
  time
• 17:11
  actually
• 17:11
  sitting
• 17:12
  in
• 17:12
  the
• 17:12
  seat
• 17:12
  of
• 17:13
  archbishop.
• 17:13
  Amen.
• 17:14
  You
• 17:14
  talk
• 17:14
  about,
• 17:15
  you
• 17:15
  know,
• 17:15
  that
• 17:15
  time
• 17:16
  of
• 17:16
  getting
• 17:16
  away.
• 17:17
  We
• 17:17
  do
• 17:18
  the
• 17:18
  same
• 17:18
  thing
• 17:18
  today.
• 17:18
  We
• 17:19
  talk
• 17:19
  about
• 17:19
  our
• 17:19
  alone
• 17:20
  time
• 17:20
  with
• 17:20
  God.
• 17:21
  Absolutely.
• 17:22
  I
• 17:22
  know
• 17:22
  for
• 17:23
  me,
• 17:23
  personally,
• 17:24
  when
• 17:25
  I'm
• 17:25
  struggling
• 17:26
  with
• 17:26
  something
• 17:26
  that,
• 17:27
  you
• 17:27
  know,
• 17:27
  how
• 17:27
  do
• 17:27
  we
• 17:28
  do
• 17:28
  this.
• 17:28
  How
• 17:28
  is
• 17:28
  this
• 17:28
  going
• 17:29
  to
• 17:29
  work?
• 17:29
  What
• 17:29
  should
• 17:29
  I
• 17:29
  do
• 17:30
  next?
• 17:30
  It's
• 17:31
  that
• 17:31
  alone
• 17:31
  time
• 17:33
  when
• 17:33
  the
• 17:33
  Revelation
• 17:34
  comes,
• 17:35
  you
• 17:35
  know,
• 17:35
  because
• 17:35
  now
• 17:36
  you've
• 17:36
  quieted
• 17:37
  down,
• 17:37
  you've
• 17:37
  eliminated
• 17:38
  the
• 17:38
  distractions,
• 17:40
  and
• 17:40
  now
• 17:40
  the
• 17:40
  Holy
• 17:41
  Spirit
• 17:41
  can
• 17:41
  speak
• 17:42
  and
• 17:42
  you
• 17:43
  can
• 17:43
  listen,
• 17:44
  you
• 17:44
  know,
• 17:44
  and,
• 17:45
  you
• 17:45
  know,
• 17:45
  so
• 17:46
  as
• 17:46
  he's
• 17:46
  exiled,
• 17:47
  he's
• 17:47
  probably
• 17:47
  like,
• 17:48
  good,
• 17:49
  I'm
• 17:49
  going
• 17:49
  on
• 17:49
  what
• 17:50
  they
• 17:50
  call
• 17:50
  it
• 17:50
  a
• 17:52
  sabbatical.
• 17:53
  Sabbatical,
• 17:54
  yeah,
• 17:54
  I'm
• 17:54
  going
• 17:54
  on
• 17:54
  a
• 17:54
  sabbatical,
• 17:55
  see,
• 17:55
  in
• 17:55
  a
• 17:55
  couple
• 17:56
  years,
• 17:56
  you
• 17:56
  know,
• 17:57
  and
• 17:57
  when
• 17:57
  he
• 17:58
  comes
• 17:58
  back,
• 17:58
  he's
• 17:58
  more
• 17:59
  on
• 17:59
  fire
• 17:59
  than
• 17:59
  he
• 17:59
  was
• 18:00
  when
• 18:00
  he
• 18:00
  left.
• 18:00
  Exactly.
• 18:03
  And.
• 18:03
  And
• 18:03
  I
• 18:03
  can
• 18:03
  imagine
• 18:04
  these
• 18:04
  Desert
• 18:04
  Fathers
• 18:05
  are
• 18:05
  building
• 18:05
  into
• 18:05
  him
• 18:06
  because
• 18:06
  they're
• 18:06
  praying
• 18:06
  and
• 18:06
  fasting
• 18:07
  with
• 18:07
  him.
• 18:08
  You
• 18:08
  know,
• 18:08
  they
• 18:08
  are.
• 18:09
  That's
• 18:09
  what
• 18:09
  they
• 18:09
  do.
• 18:09
  These
• 18:10
  guys
• 18:10
  are,
• 18:10
  you
• 18:11
  know,
• 18:11
  they
• 18:11
  see.
• 18:12
  I'll
• 18:12
  tell
• 18:12
  you
• 18:13
  what,
• 18:13
  go
• 18:13
  back
• 18:13
  and
• 18:13
  read
• 18:14
  the
• 18:14
  book,
• 18:14
  the
• 18:15
  Sayings
• 18:15
  of
• 18:15
  the
• 18:15
  Desert
• 18:15
  Fathers.
• 18:16
  I
• 18:16
  listened
• 18:16
  to
• 18:16
  it
• 18:16
  on
• 18:16
  Audible.
• 18:17
  I've
• 18:18
  listened
• 18:18
  to
• 18:18
  a
• 18:18
  lot
• 18:18
  of
• 18:19
  these
• 18:19
  books
• 18:19
  that
• 18:19
  were
• 18:19
  rejected
• 18:20
  by
• 18:20
  the.
• 18:20
  In
• 18:20
  the
• 18:20
  Bible.
• 18:22
  You
• 18:22
  can
• 18:22
  learn
• 18:23
  a
• 18:23
  lot.
• 18:23
  You
• 18:24
  can
• 18:24
  also.
• 18:24
  I
• 18:24
  can
• 18:25
  also
• 18:25
  see
• 18:25
  why
• 18:26
  some
• 18:26
  of
• 18:27
  those
• 18:27
  early
• 18:27
  books
• 18:27
  were
• 18:27
  not
• 18:28
  put
• 18:28
  in
• 18:28
  the
• 18:28
  Word
• 18:28
  of
• 18:28
  God.
• 18:29
  I
• 18:29
  see
• 18:29
  why
• 18:30
  they're
• 18:30
  not.
• 18:30
  It's
• 18:31
  when
• 18:32
  you
• 18:32
  read
• 18:32
  the
• 18:32
  Bible
• 18:33
  and
• 18:33
  the
• 18:33
  books
• 18:34
  that
• 18:34
  are
• 18:34
  in
• 18:34
  the
• 18:34
  Bible
• 18:34
  and
• 18:34
  then
• 18:34
  you
• 18:35
  read
• 18:35
  the
• 18:35
  ones
• 18:35
  that
• 18:35
  aren't,
• 18:36
  you
• 18:36
  can
• 18:36
  see
• 18:37
  why
• 18:37
  that's
• 18:37
  not
• 18:37
  there.
• 18:38
  But
• 18:39
  you
• 18:39
  can
• 18:39
  also
• 18:39
  still
• 18:40
  see
• 18:40
  the
• 18:40
  value
• 18:40
  of
• 18:40
  them.
• 18:41
  And
• 18:42
  they
• 18:42
  are
• 18:42
  valuable.
• 18:43
  They
• 18:43
  really
• 18:43
  are.
• 18:44
  These
• 18:44
  are
• 18:44
  writings
• 18:45
  that
• 18:45
  we
• 18:45
  need
• 18:45
  to
• 18:45
  read
• 18:45
  alongside
• 18:46
  with
• 18:46
  the
• 18:46
  Bible.
• 18:47
  And
• 18:47
  so.
• 18:48
  And
• 18:48
  that's
• 18:48
  kind
• 18:48
  of
• 18:48
  what
• 18:48
  I
• 18:48
  do.
• 18:48
  I'll
• 18:49
  do
• 18:49
  comparisons
• 18:50
  and
• 18:50
  I'll.
• 18:52
  I've
• 18:52
  done
• 18:52
  that
• 18:53
  quite
• 18:53
  a
• 18:53
  bit.
• 18:53
  I'll
• 18:54
  listen
• 18:54
  to
• 18:54
  them
• 18:54
  on
• 18:54
  audible.
• 18:55
  I
• 18:55
  love
• 18:56
  Audible.
• 18:56
  I
• 18:56
  listen
• 18:57
  to
• 18:57
  that
• 18:57
  all
• 18:57
  the
• 18:57
  time.
• 18:58
  Listen
• 18:58
  to
• 18:58
  books
• 18:58
  and
• 18:59
  things
• 18:59
  and
• 18:59
  really
• 19:00
  trying
• 19:00
  to,
• 19:01
  to
• 19:01
  contemplate
• 19:01
  what
• 19:02
  that
• 19:02
  looks
• 19:02
  like.
• 19:02
  But
• 19:02
  these
• 19:02
  sayings
• 19:03
  of
• 19:03
  the
• 19:03
  Desert
• 19:03
  Fathers
• 19:05
  is
• 19:05
  a
• 19:05
  big
• 19:05
  deal.
• 19:05
  And
• 19:05
  it
• 19:05
  is
• 19:06
  a
• 19:06
  big
• 19:06
  deal
• 19:06
  to
• 19:06
  the
• 19:06
  second
• 19:07
  and
• 19:07
  the
• 19:07
  Third
• 19:07
  age
• 19:07
  of
• 19:08
  the
• 19:08
  Church,
• 19:08
  because
• 19:09
  it's
• 19:09
  during
• 19:09
  the
• 19:10
  later
• 19:10
  part
• 19:10
  of
• 19:10
  the
• 19:10
  Second
• 19:10
  age
• 19:11
  of
• 19:11
  the
• 19:11
  Church
• 19:12
  that
• 19:12
  this,
• 19:13
  this
• 19:14
  group
• 19:14
  starts.
• 19:15
  And
• 19:15
  it's
• 19:15
  really
• 19:15
  into
• 19:16
  the
• 19:16
  Third
• 19:16
  age
• 19:16
  of
• 19:16
  the
• 19:16
  Church
• 19:17
  that
• 19:17
  these
• 19:17
  guys
• 19:17
  are
• 19:17
  really
• 19:18
  established.
• 19:19
  And
• 19:19
  it
• 19:19
  will
• 19:19
  establish
• 19:20
  what
• 19:20
  we
• 19:20
  think
• 19:21
  of
• 19:21
  as
• 19:21
  monasteries
• 19:22
  now.
• 19:23
  And
• 19:23
  that
• 19:24
  becomes
• 19:24
  a
• 19:24
  huge
• 19:24
  part
• 19:25
  of
• 19:25
  the
• 19:25
  church
• 19:27
  for,
• 19:27
  well,
• 19:28
  for
• 19:29
  what,
• 19:29
  how
• 19:29
  many
• 19:29
  years
• 19:30
  now?
• 19:30
  1700
• 19:31
  years
• 19:31
  or
• 19:31
  so.
• 19:31
  Yeah.
• 19:32
  So
• 19:32
  I
• 19:32
  mean,
• 19:32
  we're
• 19:32
  talking
• 19:33
  17,
• 19:34
  1800
• 19:34
  years.
• 19:34
  We're.
• 19:35
  We're
• 19:35
  talking
• 19:36
  a
• 19:36
  long
• 19:36
  time.
• 19:36
  I
• 19:37
  mean,
• 19:37
  that
• 19:37
  has
• 19:37
  outlasted
• 19:38
  most
• 19:38
  countries.
• 19:39
  Yeah.
• 19:40
  I
• 19:40
  mean,
• 19:41
  that
• 19:41
  monastery
• 19:42
  way
• 19:42
  of
• 19:42
  life
• 19:42
  is
• 19:43
  outlasted
• 19:43
  and,
• 19:43
  and
• 19:44
  think
• 19:44
  about
• 19:44
  how
• 19:44
  much
• 19:45
  Theology's
• 19:45
  come
• 19:46
  out
• 19:46
  of
• 19:46
  that,
• 19:47
  that
• 19:47
  we
• 19:47
  embrace
• 19:48
  today.
• 19:48
  Even
• 19:49
  whether
• 19:49
  you're
• 19:50
  Catholic,
• 19:50
  Protestant,
• 19:51
  whatever,
• 19:52
  you're
• 19:53
  embracing
• 19:53
  a
• 19:53
  lot
• 19:53
  of
• 19:53
  that
• 19:54
  theology
• 19:54
  because
• 19:54
  back
• 19:55
  then
• 19:55
  it
• 19:55
  was
• 19:55
  just
• 19:55
  one
• 19:55
  church.
• 19:56
  We
• 19:56
  didn't,
• 19:56
  you
• 19:57
  know,
• 19:57
  it
• 19:57
  wasn't
• 19:57
  Catholic,
• 19:58
  it
• 19:58
  wasn't
• 19:59
  Protestant.
• 19:59
  It
• 19:59
  was
• 19:59
  just
• 20:00
  the
• 20:00
  church.
• 20:00
  Yeah.
• 20:02
  So
• 20:02
  this
• 20:02
  third
• 20:03
  age
• 20:03
  of
• 20:03
  the
• 20:03
  church
• 20:03
  is,
• 20:04
  is
• 20:04
  through
• 20:04
  that.
• 20:05
  So
• 20:05
  I've
• 20:05
  got
• 20:05
  a
• 20:05
  few
• 20:05
  notes
• 20:06
  here.
• 20:06
  I'll
• 20:06
  just
• 20:06
  read
• 20:06
  and
• 20:07
  interject
• 20:08
  with
• 20:08
  questions
• 20:08
  and
• 20:08
  thoughts
• 20:09
  here,
• 20:10
  Bob.
• 20:10
  But
• 20:13
  while
• 20:14
  we
• 20:14
  don't
• 20:14
  have
• 20:14
  all.
• 20:15
  I
• 20:15
  don't
• 20:15
  have
• 20:15
  all.
• 20:15
  We
• 20:16
  don't
• 20:16
  have
• 20:16
  all
• 20:16
  the
• 20:16
  exact
• 20:17
  dates,
• 20:17
  but
• 20:17
  we
• 20:17
  roughly
• 20:18
  understand
• 20:18
  that
• 20:19
  around
• 20:19
  the
• 20:19
  time
• 20:20
  that
• 20:20
  Athanasius
• 20:21
  the
• 20:21
  Great
• 20:21
  is
• 20:22
  exiled.
• 20:22
  We
• 20:23
  realize
• 20:23
  that
• 20:25
  much
• 20:25
  of
• 20:25
  that,
• 20:26
  a
• 20:26
  lot
• 20:26
  of
• 20:26
  that
• 20:26
  time
• 20:27
  was
• 20:27
  with
• 20:27
  the
• 20:27
  Desert
• 20:28
  Fathers.
• 20:28
  Not
• 20:28
  all
• 20:29
  of
• 20:29
  it.
• 20:29
  There
• 20:29
  was
• 20:29
  other
• 20:29
  things
• 20:30
  that
• 20:30
  went
• 20:30
  on,
• 20:30
  but
• 20:31
  that
• 20:31
  helped
• 20:31
  influence
• 20:32
  him
• 20:32
  in
• 20:33
  his
• 20:33
  theology.
• 20:33
  And
• 20:34
  like
• 20:34
  you
• 20:34
  said,
• 20:34
  those
• 20:34
  times
• 20:35
  of
• 20:35
  escape,
• 20:35
  even
• 20:35
  Jesus
• 20:36
  did
• 20:36
  that.
• 20:37
  We
• 20:37
  see
• 20:37
  that
• 20:37
  in
• 20:38
  his
• 20:38
  ministry.
• 20:39
  The
• 20:39
  whole
• 20:40
  Constantine
• 20:41
  being
• 20:41
  baptized
• 20:42
  and
• 20:42
  then
• 20:42
  he
• 20:42
  dies.
• 20:43
  That's
• 20:44
  really
• 20:44
  when
• 20:45
  it's,
• 20:45
  it's.
• 20:45
  That's
• 20:46
  kind
• 20:46
  of
• 20:46
  that
• 20:46
  kickoff
• 20:47
  point.
• 20:47
  Now
• 20:47
  we're
• 20:48
  in
• 20:48
  the
• 20:48
  third
• 20:48
  age
• 20:48
  of
• 20:49
  the
• 20:49
  Church.
• 20:50
  The
• 20:50
  Edict
• 20:50
  of
• 20:50
  Milan
• 20:51
  kind
• 20:51
  of
• 20:51
  signifies
• 20:52
  the
• 20:52
  moving
• 20:53
  away
• 20:53
  from
• 20:53
  the
• 20:54
  second
• 20:54
  age
• 20:54
  of
• 20:54
  the
• 20:54
  church
• 20:55
  and
• 20:55
  into
• 20:55
  the
• 20:55
  third.
• 20:56
  And
• 20:56
  then
• 20:56
  it,
• 20:56
  the
• 20:57
  trigger
• 20:57
  is
• 20:57
  when
• 20:58
  the
• 20:58
  Roman
• 20:58
  Empire
• 20:59
  emperor
• 21:00
  himself
• 21:01
  receives
• 21:01
  Christ
• 21:02
  by
• 21:02
  being
• 21:02
  baptized
• 21:03
  and
• 21:03
  signifies
• 21:04
  that
• 21:04
  right
• 21:04
  before
• 21:05
  he
• 21:05
  dies.
• 21:06
  So.
• 21:06
  And
• 21:06
  he
• 21:06
  shows
• 21:07
  the
• 21:07
  importance
• 21:07
  of
• 21:07
  being
• 21:08
  baptized
• 21:09
  into
• 21:09
  the
• 21:09
  faith.
• 21:10
  So
• 21:11
  that,
• 21:11
  that
• 21:11
  becomes
• 21:12
  a
• 21:12
  big
• 21:13
  deal.
• 21:13
  That's
• 21:14
  a
• 21:14
  huge
• 21:14
  deal.
• 21:15
  We'll
• 21:15
  see
• 21:15
  something
• 21:16
  very
• 21:16
  similar
• 21:16
  in
• 21:16
  1517
• 21:17
  and
• 21:18
  in
• 21:18
  1537,38,
• 21:20
  when
• 21:21
  the
• 21:21
  95
• 21:22
  thesis
• 21:22
  is
• 21:22
  posted
• 21:23
  by
• 21:23
  Martin
• 21:23
  Luther.
• 21:24
  That
• 21:24
  is
• 21:24
  not
• 21:24
  the
• 21:25
  end
• 21:25
  of
• 21:26
  the
• 21:26
  fourth
• 21:26
  age
• 21:26
  of
• 21:27
  the
• 21:27
  church,
• 21:27
  but
• 21:27
  what
• 21:27
  it
• 21:27
  is
• 21:28
  is
• 21:28
  that
• 21:28
  signifies
• 21:29
  that
• 21:29
  it's
• 21:29
  coming.
• 21:31
  And
• 21:31
  then
• 21:31
  the
• 21:32
  actual
• 21:32
  end
• 21:32
  is
• 21:32
  when
• 21:33
  King
• 21:33
  Henry
• 21:34
  VIII
• 21:34
  establishes
• 21:35
  the
• 21:35
  Anglican
• 21:36
  Church.
• 21:37
  That's
• 21:38
  when
• 21:38
  that
• 21:38
  is
• 21:38
  the
• 21:39
  actual
• 21:39
  trigger
• 21:39
  moment.
• 21:40
  And
• 21:40
  we'll
• 21:40
  talk
• 21:40
  more
• 21:40
  about
• 21:40
  that
• 21:41
  when
• 21:41
  we
• 21:41
  get.
• 21:41
  So
• 21:41
  we
• 21:42
  see
• 21:42
  kind
• 21:42
  of
• 21:42
  a
• 21:42
  similar
• 21:42
  thing
• 21:43
  here,
• 21:43
  though.
• 21:44
  So
• 21:45
  anyway,
• 21:46
  the
• 21:46
  church
• 21:46
  begins
• 21:47
  to
• 21:47
  take
• 21:47
  shape
• 21:47
  and
• 21:48
  develop
• 21:48
  into
• 21:48
  its
• 21:48
  formal
• 21:49
  entity.
• 21:51
  Another
• 21:52
  one
• 21:52
  here,
• 21:52
  here.
• 21:53
  And,
• 21:53
  and
• 21:53
  I've
• 21:54
  got
• 21:54
  to
• 21:54
  throw
• 21:54
  this
• 21:54
  out
• 21:54
  there,
• 21:55
  Bob,
• 21:55
  and
• 21:55
  I'm
• 21:55
  gonna
• 21:55
  let
• 21:55
  you
• 21:56
  just
• 21:56
  run
• 21:56
  with
• 21:56
  this
• 21:56
  after
• 21:57
  I
• 21:57
  say
• 21:57
  it
• 21:57
  because
• 21:58
  this
• 21:58
  is
• 21:59
  huge.
• 21:59
  This
• 22:00
  is
• 22:00
  huge.
• 22:00
  Even
• 22:00
  today.
• 22:02
  And
• 22:02
  relates
• 22:03
  to
• 22:03
  today.
• 22:04
  A
• 22:04
  lot
• 22:04
  of
• 22:04
  people
• 22:04
  don't
• 22:05
  know
• 22:05
  this,
• 22:05
  but
• 22:05
  in
• 22:05
  363
• 22:08
  there
• 22:08
  was
• 22:09
  this
• 22:09
  eternal
• 22:10
  attempt
• 22:11
  to
• 22:11
  rebuild
• 22:12
  the
• 22:13
  temple
• 22:14
  in
• 22:14
  Jerusalem.
• 22:16
  That's
• 22:17
  right.
• 22:18
  But
• 22:18
  what
• 22:19
  happens
• 22:19
  in
• 22:19
  363
• 22:21
  and
• 22:22
  I
• 22:22
  don't
• 22:23
  have
• 22:23
  the
• 22:23
  exact
• 22:23
  date,
• 22:23
  but
• 22:24
  during
• 22:24
  that
• 22:24
  year
• 22:24
  there'll
• 22:25
  be
• 22:25
  a,
• 22:25
  a
• 22:25
  night
• 22:26
  in
• 22:26
  an
• 22:26
  early
• 22:26
  morning
• 22:27
  A
• 22:27
  bunch
• 22:27
  of
• 22:27
  earthquakes
• 22:28
  accompanied
• 22:29
  by
• 22:30
  a
• 22:30
  ball
• 22:31
  of
• 22:31
  lightning
• 22:32
  will
• 22:32
  disrupt
• 22:33
  an
• 22:33
  attempt
• 22:33
  to
• 22:34
  rebuild
• 22:34
  the
• 22:34
  Jewish
• 22:34
  temple
• 22:35
  in
• 22:35
  Jerusalem.
• 22:37
  That
• 22:37
  was
• 22:37
  to
• 22:37
  begin,
• 22:38
  and
• 22:38
  that
• 22:38
  was
• 22:39
  to
• 22:39
  begin
• 22:39
  the
• 22:39
  next
• 22:39
  day.
• 22:41
  Wow.
• 22:42
  Okay.
• 22:42
  These
• 22:42
  forces
• 22:43
  will
• 22:43
  destroy
• 22:43
  much
• 22:44
  of
• 22:44
  the
• 22:44
  material
• 22:44
  gathered
• 22:45
  for
• 22:45
  the
• 22:45
  work.
• 22:46
  The
• 22:47
  rebuilding
• 22:48
  had
• 22:48
  the
• 22:48
  backing
• 22:48
  of
• 22:49
  the
• 22:49
  pagan
• 22:50
  emperor
• 22:51
  Julian
• 22:53
  as
• 22:53
  one
• 22:54
  of
• 22:54
  his
• 22:54
  lines
• 22:54
  of
• 22:55
  opposition
• 22:55
  to
• 22:55
  Christianity.
• 22:56
  See,
• 22:57
  there
• 22:57
  was
• 22:57
  still
• 22:58
  a
• 22:58
  lot
• 22:58
  of
• 22:58
  turmoil
• 22:59
  in
• 22:59
  this
• 23:00
  part
• 23:00
  of
• 23:00
  the
• 23:00
  third
• 23:01
  age
• 23:01
  of
• 23:01
  the
• 23:01
  Church,
• 23:02
  and
• 23:03
  some
• 23:03
  of
• 23:03
  these
• 23:04
  emperors
• 23:04
  did
• 23:04
  not
• 23:05
  like
• 23:05
  Christianity,
• 23:05
  so
• 23:06
  he
• 23:06
  was
• 23:06
  backing
• 23:07
  the
• 23:07
  Jewish
• 23:07
  faith
• 23:08
  to
• 23:09
  try
• 23:09
  to
• 23:09
  re
• 23:09
  establish
• 23:10
  that
• 23:11
  by
• 23:11
  helping
• 23:11
  them
• 23:11
  rebuild
• 23:12
  their
• 23:12
  temple.
• 23:13
  Guess
• 23:13
  what?
• 23:13
  These
• 23:14
  earthquakes,
• 23:15
  this
• 23:15
  ball
• 23:15
  of
• 23:15
  lightning
• 23:16
  destroys
• 23:17
  the
• 23:17
  materials
• 23:18
  the
• 23:18
  day
• 23:18
  before
• 23:18
  they're
• 23:19
  going
• 23:19
  to
• 23:19
  start
• 23:19
  the
• 23:19
  building
• 23:20
  of
• 23:20
  it.
• 23:21
  And
• 23:21
  then
• 23:21
  this
• 23:21
  event
• 23:21
  will
• 23:22
  be
• 23:22
  recounted
• 23:22
  in
• 23:23
  numerous
• 23:23
  contemporary
• 23:24
  and
• 23:24
  near
• 23:24
  contemporary
• 23:25
  sources,
• 23:26
  both
• 23:26
  pagan,
• 23:27
  pagan,
• 23:27
  Jewish,
• 23:28
  and
• 23:28
  Christian.
• 23:29
  So
• 23:30
  we
• 23:30
  know
• 23:30
  this
• 23:30
  happened.
• 23:31
  I
• 23:31
  mean,
• 23:31
  it's.
• 23:32
  It's
• 23:32
  pretty
• 23:32
  clear
• 23:33
  that
• 23:33
  this
• 23:33
  happened.
• 23:35
  I'm
• 23:35
  gonna
• 23:35
  just
• 23:35
  let
• 23:36
  you
• 23:36
  run
• 23:36
  with
• 23:36
  that,
• 23:36
  because
• 23:37
  I
• 23:37
  think
• 23:37
  that
• 23:37
  is
• 23:38
  such
• 23:38
  a
• 23:39
  huge
• 23:40
  sign
• 23:42
  that
• 23:42
  it
• 23:43
  was
• 23:43
  not
• 23:43
  time.
• 23:44
  Yeah,
• 23:44
  exactly.
• 23:45
  I
• 23:45
  mean,
• 23:45
  you're
• 23:45
  not
• 23:45
  going
• 23:46
  to
• 23:46
  get
• 23:46
  ahead
• 23:46
  of
• 23:46
  God's
• 23:47
  timeline
• 23:47
  on
• 23:47
  it
• 23:48
  at
• 23:48
  all.
• 23:48
  You
• 23:49
  know,
• 23:49
  I
• 23:50
  mean,
• 23:50
  what
• 23:50
  Jesus
• 23:51
  say?
• 23:51
  My
• 23:51
  time
• 23:52
  is
• 23:52
  not
• 23:52
  yet.
• 23:53
  Exactly.
• 23:53
  You
• 23:53
  know,
• 23:54
  I
• 23:54
  mean,
• 23:54
  you
• 23:55
  know,
• 23:55
  there
• 23:55
  is
• 23:56
  a
• 23:56
  set
• 23:56
  time
• 23:57
  for
• 23:57
  every
• 23:58
  season.
• 24:00
  And,
• 24:01
  you
• 24:01
  know,
• 24:01
  the.
• 24:02
  Yeah,
• 24:03
  I
• 24:03
  could
• 24:03
  just
• 24:04
  imagine
• 24:04
  the.
• 24:06
  The
• 24:07
  trepidation
• 24:08
  when
• 24:08
  that
• 24:09
  happened,
• 24:09
  when
• 24:10
  they're
• 24:10
  like,
• 24:10
  well,
• 24:11
  let's
• 24:11
  gather
• 24:11
  everything
• 24:11
  back
• 24:12
  up
• 24:12
  and
• 24:12
  go
• 24:12
  back
• 24:12
  to
• 24:12
  it.
• 24:12
  And
• 24:13
  they're
• 24:13
  like,
• 24:13
  no,
• 24:16
  no,
• 24:17
  no,
• 24:17
  no,
• 24:17
  no.
• 24:18
  That's
• 24:18
  what
• 24:18
  you
• 24:18
  call
• 24:19
  an
• 24:19
  act
• 24:19
  of
• 24:19
  God.
• 24:20
  He's
• 24:20
  letting
• 24:21
  his
• 24:21
  will
• 24:21
  be
• 24:22
  known
• 24:22
  in
• 24:22
  that
• 24:22
  instance
• 24:23
  right
• 24:23
  there,
• 24:24
  you
• 24:24
  know,
• 24:25
  and.
• 24:25
  Yeah,
• 24:26
  it's
• 24:26
  like,
• 24:27
  that
• 24:27
  is
• 24:27
  not
• 24:28
  happening.
• 24:28
  It's
• 24:29
  kind
• 24:29
  of
• 24:29
  like,
• 24:29
  you
• 24:30
  know,
• 24:30
  I'm
• 24:31
  reminded
• 24:31
  of
• 24:31
  the
• 24:32
  story,
• 24:32
  the
• 24:32
  end
• 24:32
  of
• 24:33
  the
• 24:33
  Revolutionary
• 24:33
  War
• 24:34
  at
• 24:34
  Yorktown.
• 24:34
  You
• 24:35
  know,
• 24:35
  I
• 24:36
  mean,
• 24:36
  Washington
• 24:36
  was
• 24:37
  outnumbered.
• 24:37
  He
• 24:38
  was
• 24:38
  winning,
• 24:39
  but
• 24:39
  the
• 24:39
  British
• 24:40
  were
• 24:40
  sending
• 24:40
  the
• 24:40
  reinforcements
• 24:41
  in,
• 24:42
  and
• 24:42
  all
• 24:43
  they
• 24:43
  had
• 24:43
  to
• 24:43
  do
• 24:43
  is
• 24:43
  land.
• 24:44
  They
• 24:44
  were
• 24:44
  right
• 24:44
  there
• 24:44
  on
• 24:44
  the
• 24:45
  ships,
• 24:45
  and
• 24:45
  as
• 24:46
  they're
• 24:46
  coming
• 24:46
  into
• 24:47
  this
• 24:47
  huge
• 24:48
  gale,
• 24:48
  wind
• 24:49
  came
• 24:49
  in
• 24:50
  reverse
• 24:50
  course,
• 24:50
  wouldn't
• 24:51
  let
• 24:51
  them
• 24:51
  have
• 24:51
  pushed
• 24:51
  them
• 24:51
  back
• 24:52
  out.
• 24:53
  And.
• 24:53
  And
• 24:54
  Washington
• 24:55
  defeating
• 24:56
  Cornwallis
• 24:56
  because
• 24:57
  he
• 24:57
  had
• 24:57
  to
• 24:57
  surrender,
• 24:57
  because
• 24:58
  he
• 24:58
  couldn't
• 24:58
  get
• 24:58
  reinforcements.
• 24:59
  He
• 24:59
  was
• 24:59
  done.
• 25:00
  And
• 25:00
  that
• 25:00
  ended
• 25:00
  the
• 25:01
  war
• 25:01
  right
• 25:01
  there,
• 25:01
  you
• 25:02
  know,
• 25:02
  and,
• 25:03
  you
• 25:03
  know,
• 25:03
  and
• 25:04
  Washington
• 25:04
  credited
• 25:05
  all
• 25:05
  to
• 25:05
  God,
• 25:06
  you
• 25:06
  know,
• 25:06
  I
• 25:07
  mean,
• 25:07
  trying
• 25:08
  to
• 25:08
  escape.
• 25:09
  They
• 25:09
  was
• 25:09
  trying
• 25:09
  to
• 25:10
  escape
• 25:10
  from
• 25:10
  New
• 25:10
  York.
• 25:12
  British
• 25:12
  had
• 25:12
  him
• 25:12
  surrounded.
• 25:14
  And
• 25:14
  no
• 25:15
  boats.
• 25:15
  They
• 25:16
  used
• 25:16
  rowboats.
• 25:17
  I
• 25:17
  think
• 25:17
  they
• 25:17
  had
• 25:17
  two
• 25:17
  rowboats.
• 25:18
  They
• 25:18
  had
• 25:18
  to
• 25:18
  get
• 25:18
  everybody
• 25:19
  across
• 25:19
  over
• 25:20
  the
• 25:20
  course
• 25:20
  of
• 25:20
  the
• 25:20
  night.
• 25:21
  And
• 25:21
  next
• 25:21
  morning,
• 25:22
  fog
• 25:22
  socked
• 25:23
  in
• 25:23
  so
• 25:23
  they
• 25:23
  could
• 25:24
  go
• 25:24
  ahead
• 25:24
  and
• 25:24
  escape.
• 25:24
  He
• 25:24
  was
• 25:25
  in
• 25:25
  the
• 25:25
  Last
• 25:25
  boat
• 25:25
  to
• 25:25
  escape,
• 25:26
  you
• 25:26
  know,
• 25:27
  and
• 25:27
  he
• 25:28
  was
• 25:28
  only
• 25:28
  like
• 25:28
  30
• 25:28
  yards
• 25:29
  offshore
• 25:29
  when
• 25:30
  the
• 25:30
  British
• 25:30
  troops
• 25:30
  finally
• 25:31
  made
• 25:31
  it
• 25:31
  to
• 25:31
  the
• 25:31
  shore
• 25:32
  and
• 25:32
  he
• 25:33
  was
• 25:33
  just
• 25:33
  disappearing
• 25:33
  into
• 25:34
  that
• 25:34
  fog
• 25:35
  so
• 25:35
  they
• 25:35
  couldn't
• 25:35
  even
• 25:35
  shoot
• 25:36
  at
• 25:36
  him.
• 25:37
  I
• 25:38
  mean
• 25:38
  just
• 25:39
  miracle
• 25:39
  after
• 25:40
  miracle
• 25:41
  because
• 25:41
  it
• 25:41
  was
• 25:41
  God's
• 25:42
  timing.
• 25:43
  Exactly.
• 25:43
  I
• 25:44
  mean
• 25:44
  it,
• 25:45
  it's,
• 25:46
  you
• 25:46
  know,
• 25:47
  the
• 25:47
  six,
• 25:48
  the
• 25:48
  Seven
• 25:49
  Day
• 25:49
  War,
• 25:49
  Six
• 25:49
  Day
• 25:50
  War
• 25:50
  in
• 25:50
  Israel.
• 25:51
  You
• 25:51
  know,
• 25:51
  I
• 25:52
  mean
• 25:53
  the
• 25:54
  Egyptians
• 25:55
  and
• 25:55
  stuff,
• 25:55
  they
• 25:55
  are
• 25:56
  trying
• 25:56
  to
• 25:56
  shoot
• 25:56
  their
• 25:56
  artillery
• 25:57
  and
• 25:57
  all
• 25:58
  this
• 25:58
  stuff
• 25:58
  at
• 25:58
  the
• 25:58
  Israelis
• 26:00
  and
• 26:01
  they
• 26:01
  couldn't
• 26:01
  hit
• 26:01
  it.
• 26:02
  You
• 26:02
  know,
• 26:03
  they,
• 26:03
  they
• 26:03
  thought
• 26:03
  they
• 26:03
  had
• 26:04
  point
• 26:04
  blank
• 26:05
  aim
• 26:05
  and,
• 26:05
  and
• 26:06
  as
• 26:06
  they
• 26:06
  shoot
• 26:06
  this
• 26:07
  round
• 26:07
  and
• 26:07
  go
• 26:07
  off
• 26:07
  into
• 26:08
  some
• 26:08
  Netherland
• 26:09
  direction,
• 26:10
  then
• 26:10
  when
• 26:10
  their
• 26:11
  gear
• 26:11
  was
• 26:11
  captured,
• 26:12
  the
• 26:12
  Israelis
• 26:13
  turned
• 26:13
  around,
• 26:14
  there's
• 26:14
  point
• 26:15
  blank
• 26:15
  accuracy
• 26:17
  firing
• 26:17
  against
• 26:17
  the
• 26:18
  Egypt.
• 26:18
  The
• 26:18
  angels
• 26:19
  were
• 26:19
  out
• 26:19
  there
• 26:19
  deflecting
• 26:20
  all
• 26:20
  these
• 26:20
  shells,
• 26:21
  protecting
• 26:21
  the
• 26:21
  Israeli
• 26:22
  army.
• 26:22
  You
• 26:22
  know,
• 26:23
  it's
• 26:24
  just,
• 26:24
  you
• 26:24
  know,
• 26:25
  when
• 26:25
  God
• 26:26
  says
• 26:26
  no,
• 26:27
  it's
• 26:27
  not
• 26:27
  happening.
• 26:29
  There's
• 26:29
  not
• 26:29
  absolutely
• 26:31
  zero
• 26:32
  any
• 26:32
  human
• 26:32
  being
• 26:33
  can
• 26:33
  do
• 26:33
  to
• 26:34
  try
• 26:34
  and
• 26:34
  force
• 26:34
  it
• 26:34
  to
• 26:35
  happen.
• 26:35
  And
• 26:36
  you
• 26:36
  know,
• 26:37
  if
• 26:37
  you
• 26:37
  try
• 26:37
  and
• 26:38
  force
• 26:38
  it,
• 26:40
  usually
• 26:40
  it
• 26:41
  doesn't
• 26:41
  end
• 26:41
  too
• 26:41
  well.
• 26:42
  No,
• 26:44
  you
• 26:45
  know,
• 26:45
  I
• 26:45
  can,
• 26:45
  we
• 26:46
  can,
• 26:46
  I
• 26:46
  can
• 26:46
  give
• 26:46
  you
• 26:46
  another
• 26:47
  historical
• 26:47
  one
• 26:47
  is,
• 26:48
  is
• 26:48
  during
• 26:48
  the
• 26:48
  Civil
• 26:49
  War
• 26:49
  there's
• 26:49
  really
• 26:49
  two
• 26:50
  instances
• 26:51
  and,
• 26:52
  and
• 26:52
  I've
• 26:52
  got
• 26:52
  several
• 26:53
  just
• 26:53
  during
• 26:53
  the
• 26:54
  Civil
• 26:54
  War
• 26:54
  itself,
• 26:55
  but
• 26:56
  two
• 26:56
  big
• 26:56
  ones.
• 26:57
  Number
• 26:58
  one
• 26:58
  is
• 26:59
  that
• 27:01
  the
• 27:01
  Union
• 27:01
  army
• 27:02
  had
• 27:02
  pressed
• 27:02
  the
• 27:03
  Confederacy
• 27:04
  in
• 27:04
  the
• 27:05
  Overland
• 27:05
  campaign,
• 27:07
  but
• 27:07
  they
• 27:08
  needed
• 27:08
  to
• 27:08
  put
• 27:08
  Richmond
• 27:09
  into
• 27:09
  a
• 27:09
  trap.
• 27:11
  Well,
• 27:13
  General
• 27:13
  Grant
• 27:14
  takes
• 27:14
  one
• 27:14
  of
• 27:15
  the
• 27:15
  largest
• 27:15
  forces
• 27:15
  up
• 27:16
  to
• 27:16
  that
• 27:16
  time
• 27:17
  in
• 27:17
  the
• 27:17
  history
• 27:18
  of
• 27:18
  the
• 27:18
  world
• 27:19
  and
• 27:19
  crosses
• 27:19
  the
• 27:20
  James
• 27:20
  river
• 27:21
  on
• 27:21
  pontoon
• 27:22
  boats
• 27:22
  and
• 27:22
  generally
• 27:23
  misses
• 27:24
  this.
• 27:25
  I
• 27:26
  mean
• 27:26
  he
• 27:26
  could
• 27:26
  have
• 27:26
  killed
• 27:27
  a
• 27:27
  lot
• 27:27
  of
• 27:27
  their
• 27:27
  soldiers
• 27:28
  out
• 27:28
  in
• 27:28
  the
• 27:28
  middle
• 27:28
  of
• 27:29
  the
• 27:29
  river
• 27:30
  crossing
• 27:30
  these
• 27:30
  pontoon
• 27:31
  bridges
• 27:32
  and
• 27:33
  they
• 27:33
  have
• 27:33
  no
• 27:33
  idea
• 27:34
  it
• 27:34
  happened
• 27:34
  until
• 27:34
  after
• 27:35
  it
• 27:35
  was
• 27:35
  done.
• 27:36
  Yeah.
• 27:37
  Amen.
• 27:37
  So
• 27:38
  that's
• 27:38
  one.
• 27:39
  Another
• 27:41
  is
• 27:41
  that
• 27:42
  to
• 27:43
  give
• 27:44
  you
• 27:44
  the
• 27:44
  understanding
• 27:45
  of
• 27:45
  the
• 27:45
  sin
• 27:46
  of
• 27:46
  slavery
• 27:47
  on
• 27:47
  this
• 27:47
  country.
• 27:50
  Abraham
• 27:50
  Lincoln
• 27:52
  is
• 27:52
  going
• 27:52
  to
• 27:52
  issue
• 27:53
  the
• 27:53
  Emancipation
• 27:54
  Proclamation
• 27:56
  and
• 27:56
  it's
• 27:56
  a
• 27:56
  way
• 27:56
  to
• 27:56
  get
• 27:57
  the
• 27:57
  south
• 27:57
  back
• 27:57
  into
• 27:58
  the
• 27:58
  Union
• 27:59
  if
• 27:59
  they.
• 28:00
  And
• 28:00
  basically
• 28:00
  they
• 28:00
  have
• 28:01
  till
• 28:01
  January
• 28:01
  1,
• 28:02
  1863
• 28:02
  to
• 28:02
  get
• 28:03
  back
• 28:03
  in.
• 28:03
  But
• 28:04
  he
• 28:04
  can't
• 28:04
  issue
• 28:04
  it
• 28:05
  without
• 28:05
  a
• 28:05
  victory.
• 28:07
  On
• 28:07
  September
• 28:08
  17,
• 28:09
  1862,
• 28:12
  exactly
• 28:12
  85
• 28:13
  years
• 28:13
  to
• 28:13
  the
• 28:14
  day
• 28:14
  when
• 28:14
  the
• 28:14
  U.S.
• 28:15
  constitution
• 28:15
  was
• 28:16
  signed
• 28:16
  which
• 28:17
  allowed
• 28:17
  slavery
• 28:18
  to
• 28:18
  continue
• 28:18
  to
• 28:18
  exist,
• 28:20
  as
• 28:20
  well
• 28:20
  as
• 28:22
  formulating
• 28:22
  the
• 28:22
  three
• 28:23
  fist
• 28:23
  compromise
• 28:25
  and
• 28:25
  putting
• 28:25
  that
• 28:25
  into
• 28:26
  law
• 28:26
  at
• 28:26
  the
• 28:26
  time
• 28:28
  the
• 28:28
  battle
• 28:28
  of
• 28:28
  Antietam
• 28:29
  right
• 28:29
  there
• 28:30
  in
• 28:30
  your
• 28:30
  neck
• 28:30
  of
• 28:31
  the
• 28:31
  woods
• 28:31
  happened.
• 28:32
  And
• 28:32
  it
• 28:33
  will
• 28:33
  be
• 28:33
  the
• 28:33
  bloodiest,
• 28:34
  not
• 28:35
  even
• 28:35
  day,
• 28:35
  half
• 28:35
  a
• 28:36
  day
• 28:36
  in
• 28:37
  American
• 28:37
  history
• 28:38
  because
• 28:38
  in
• 28:39
  less
• 28:39
  than
• 28:39
  12
• 28:39
  hours
• 28:40
  we
• 28:41
  will
• 28:41
  have
• 28:41
  more
• 28:41
  casualties
• 28:43
  than
• 28:43
  in
• 28:43
  any
• 28:43
  other
• 28:44
  battle
• 28:45
  in
• 28:45
  one
• 28:45
  and
• 28:45
  a
• 28:46
  half
• 28:46
  a
• 28:46
  day
• 28:46
  ever
• 28:47
  in
• 28:47
  the
• 28:47
  United
• 28:48
  States
• 28:48
  history.
• 28:49
  26,000
• 28:51
  plus.
• 28:51
  And
• 28:51
  they
• 28:52
  said
• 28:52
  the
• 28:52
  numbers
• 28:52
  may
• 28:52
  actually
• 28:53
  be
• 28:53
  higher.
• 28:53
  Yeah,
• 28:54
  and
• 28:55
  it's
• 28:55
  that
• 28:56
  battle
• 28:56
  that
• 28:56
  pushes
• 28:57
  the
• 28:57
  Confederate
• 28:58
  forces
• 28:58
  back
• 28:59
  to
• 28:59
  the
• 28:59
  south
• 29:00
  and
• 29:01
  allows
• 29:01
  him
• 29:02
  to
• 29:02
  issue
• 29:02
  the
• 29:02
  Emancipation
• 29:03
  Proclamation.
• 29:04
  I
• 29:04
  find
• 29:04
  that
• 29:05
  ironic
• 29:05
  that
• 29:05
  the
• 29:05
  bloodiest
• 29:06
  day
• 29:06
  in
• 29:06
  American
• 29:06
  history
• 29:07
  happens
• 29:07
  on
• 29:07
  the
• 29:07
  day
• 29:07
  of
• 29:08
  the
• 29:08
  signing
• 29:08
  of
• 29:08
  the
• 29:08
  Constitution
• 29:09
  85
• 29:09
  years
• 29:10
  later.
• 29:10
  And
• 29:11
  it
• 29:11
  also
• 29:11
  signifies
• 29:12
  the
• 29:12
  Emancipation
• 29:13
  Proclamation
• 29:14
  being
• 29:16
  released
• 29:16
  by
• 29:17
  Abraham
• 29:17
  Lincoln
• 29:18
  will
• 29:18
  eventually
• 29:19
  lead
• 29:20
  to
• 29:20
  the
• 29:20
  13th,
• 29:21
  14th
• 29:21
  and
• 29:21
  15th
• 29:22
  Amendments.
• 29:24
  Hey,
• 29:24
  folks,
• 29:24
  Pastor
• 29:25
  Bob
• 29:25
  here.
• 29:25
  We're
• 29:25
  all
• 29:26
  about
• 29:26
  time
• 29:26
  for
• 29:27
  today's
• 29:27
  portion
• 29:27
  of
• 29:27
  this
• 29:27
  interview
• 29:28
  with
• 29:28
  T.S.
• 29:28
  wright
• 29:28
  as
• 29:29
  we're
• 29:29
  discussing
• 29:29
  the
• 29:29
  third
• 29:30
  age
• 29:30
  of
• 29:30
  the
• 29:30
  church.
• 29:31
  And
• 29:31
  anytime
• 29:32
  we
• 29:32
  can
• 29:32
  just
• 29:33
  study
• 29:33
  history
• 29:34
  and
• 29:35
  the
• 29:35
  Word
• 29:35
  of
• 29:36
  God,
• 29:36
  I'm
• 29:36
  all
• 29:37
  in.
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