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Will Prince Andrew Face Legal Consequences Amid The Epstein Fallout? (Part 2) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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where he left off with the independent article authored by
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Amy Claire Martin. Met Police looking into allegations over bid
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to smear Roberts. The Met Police has confirmed it's actively
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looking into fresh allegations that Andrew tried to use his
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police bodyguard to smear his accuser. Leaked emails seen by
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The mel On Sunday claim that Andrew handed over Robert's
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confidential social Security number and date of birth to his
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taxpayer funded Met Police protection officer in twenty eleven in
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a bid to dig up dirt on her. How crazy
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is that? Like You're going to use your tax payer
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funded security team to try and dig up dirt on
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the grow you molested, Like what is wrong with you?
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And the crazy part is this fool really thinks that
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it's okay, Like he did nothing wrong. Everybody else is
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out to get him. He's the big victim and all
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of this is nothing more then a big old misunderstanding.
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That's how Prince Andrew still feels, even after all this
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stuff has come out. Andrew reportedly wrote to Ed Perkins,
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Queen Elizabeth's deputy Press secretary. It would also seem she
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has a criminal record in the United States. I have
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given her date of birth and social Security number for
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investigation with xxx, the on duty PPO personal protection officer.
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So look, even if you don't believe that Prince Andrew
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was doing what Virginia said he was doing, how do
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you defend the fact that he was manipulating his office,
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his position, using taxpayer funded money to go after private citizens.
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That is completely unacceptable. And if he didn't know who
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Virginia was, he had no idea what she was up to,
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why is he asking for people on his personal protection
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unit to look up information about her and try and
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find dirt about her. Sure seems to me that you're
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conducting oppo research. And the only reason you do that
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is because you think that you're exposed. So that's why
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he was doing what he was doing. That's why he
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was trying to get information on Virginia so that he
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could point to her criminal record if something came out
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and say, look, she's not credible. She's just another crazy
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person trying to take down the Crown. And that's why
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Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell chose the girls that they
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did because they knew they'd have a credibility problem if
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it ever came to it. Look, we can say what
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we want about Epstein, and there sure is a lot
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to say, but there's no doubt that him and Maxwell
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knew what they were doing with their operation. They had
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this thing locked in. They knew exactly which way to move,
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they knew what buttons to push, they know what levers
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to pull, and they knew exactly who to draw in.
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And make no mistake, everything was done by design. Nothing
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they were doing was by mistake. Roberts family said she
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does not have a criminal record, and is not clear
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if the bodyguard complied with the request. Even if she
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did have a criminal record, what does it matter. So
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if you have a criminal record, that means you can't
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be assaulted. That means I shouldn't listen to anything you say. Well,
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if that's the case, why are you guys bringing Glene
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Maxwell in for a nice little chat? Oh? I get
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at Glainne. Maxwell's credible, but not Virginia right a bunch
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of clowns. The met's former head of Royal Protection, Dave Davies,
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has urged the Force to question the Royal under caution
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if there is evidence that he abetted a police officer
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to commit a criminal offense of misconduct in public office. Well, yeah, Look,
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anyone who is in public office should be held to
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a higher account. You work for the rest of us.
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You're a representative of the people. And if you're out
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here stealing, you're out here cheating, you're out here molesting girls.
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That's a problem. And a world with some justice is
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a world where somebody like that is under investigation. But unfortunately,
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when you're a royal, the rules don't apply to you.
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It's time for Scotland Yard to launch a fully criminal
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investigation into Prince Andrew. He told the mel Asking a
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police officer to investigate an alleged victim is outside of
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their duties, whether that is calling the FBI, your mates
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in the US, or searching out themselves to find out
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whether someone has a criminal offense that is, in my view,
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a criminal offense itself. Yeah, I agree with that. You
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can't use your position to try and find information on
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regular people. I mean, that's just common knowledge. And we're
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not even talking about all the other bullshit this guy
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was up to. All the other money he was accepting,
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the other people he was around the other nonsense he
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was up to. According to legal experts, the allegations could
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also risk a criminal investigation in the US. Under the
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theft An Assumption to Turns Act, individuals who knowingly use, transfer,
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or possess another person social Security number with the intent
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to commit an illegal act can face a fine or
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a prison term in the most serious cases. Now, I
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doubt he's gonna get charged with that, but hey, look,
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you never know. I'd love it. Why not. If it's
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on the books, go for it. I mean, here in America,
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up until very recently, nobody had been charged with the
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Hatch Act in a very long time, but here we are.
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So if it's a law that's on the books, it's
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a law that's on the books, and hey, fair game.
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So if that's something to get Prince Andrew on, I'm
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all for it. Like I've told you before, I don't
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care what they get these people on, as long as
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they get them on something. And the example I always
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give is al Capone. They couldn't get Capone for the murders,
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they couldn't get them for the mafia type activity. They
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got his asked for the tax evasion though, And I
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think the same will be true with all of these
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people that we talk about. You really think all these
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people are paying their fair share, You think they're ponying
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up every last dollar, They're declaring all of their valuables,
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all of their art, all of their real estate. Come on.
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So if you want to get to the bottom of it,
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and you really want to get people like Prince Ama
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and Drew over a barrel, that's how you do it.
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Spencer Couvin, who represented nine Epstein victims, told The Telegraph
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penalties for this crime are very severe and can be
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up to fifteen years in prison. He called for the
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FBI also immediately to open an investigation into the use
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of Robert's social Security number and request an interview with
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the Royal adding both the US and British authorities should
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not protect this awful individual. The world should hold Andrew
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accountable and show everyone that justice matters. I think that
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would be great. Do I think it's going to occur.
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I don't, but it would be nice. However, the MET
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has not confirmed if it has launched an official investigation
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or what potential crime if any of this could involve.
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A spokesperson added, we are aware of media reporting and
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are actively looking into the claims made. Family Court and
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women's rights barrister doctor Charlotte Proudman said the bodyguard claims,
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if true, would represent a deeply troubling abuse of power.
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Well yeah, imagine being a prince and using this great
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power to try and find dirt on a seventeen year
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old girl that you just had relations with. I mean, folks,
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more than deeply troubling as far as I'm concerned. The
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idea that public resources could be used to discredit a
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victim of sexual exploitation reinforces why so many survivors feel
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unsafe coming forward. She told The Independent. This is not
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only about individual conduct, but about the wider failure of institutions,
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including the police, to confront misogyny and hold the powerful
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to account. Well, we can do without all the buzzwords, right.
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The fact is the powerful are never held to account
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and it doesn't matter if they're a man or a woman.
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Doesn't matter if you're rich and you got the right
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amount of dough, the right amount of friends, chances are
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you're going to beat whatever charges are brought against you. Roberts,
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who took her own life in April this year, claims
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she was forced to sleep with Andrew three times, including
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once in London. The Prince has always denied the claims.
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Andrews mentioned a total of eighty eight times in her
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four hundred page diary style memoir Nobody's Girl, published on Tuesday.
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In her book, miss Roberts alleged she was seventeen and
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had been trafficked when she first slept with the Royal
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while she was staying at Epstein's former girlfriend, Glayne Maxwell's
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house in London. We're still calling her his ex girlfriend.
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Come on, nobody believes that at this point, right, at
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least nobody listening to this podcast. I hope she was
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his partner in crime, his confidant, his co conspirator, his girlfriend.
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Not in the traditional sense. Now, maybe she gave him
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a little bit of booty every now and then or whatever.
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But besides that, you think he loved her, You think
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he cared about Glainne Maxwell's well being, or her life,
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or her dreams or what she wanted. Of course he didn't,
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and the same globes for Maxwell. It was a parasitical relationship,
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one that provided Epstein with more access and provided Maxwell
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more money. She said that they had sex after a
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night in Tramp nightclub, where she described Andrew, then forty one,
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as a bumbling dancer. The next day, Maxwell told her,
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you did well. The Prince had fun, Miss Roberts wrote
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later Epstein gave her fifteen thousand dollars for servicing the
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man the tabloids called Randy Andy, she said. She claims
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that she was sent to a bedroom to have sex
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with Andrew again a month later, when she was visiting
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Epstein's New York home. Miss Roberts wrote that she does
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not know exactly when she had sex with Andrew for
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a third time, but said she had group sex with
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the royal and eight other young girls on Epstein's Caribbean
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island of Little Saint James, also referred to as Little
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Saint Jeff's by the billionaire's friends. Anybody who refers to
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it as that should also be brought under oath. I
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think you know more than you're saying. Anybody who was
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on this dude's island with any irregularity should be brought
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in now. I don't believe that just because you were
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on the island you're guilty, or if you were at
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Zoro you're guilty. But I want to know what you
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know and I want you to tell us under oath.
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And the reason I say that is you had all
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these years to come forward and be candid, but you haven't,
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So now it has to be forced. And once people
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have to start forcing you to talk about a situation
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that involves kids being hurt, we're gonna think you had
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something to do with it, because most normal people would
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be trying to get out ahead of this. Right. Well, look,
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I might have went to that island, but you know,
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here's the receipts. I was there for a conference, or
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I was there for such and such an event, whatever
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it might be. But no, instead we just get silence
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and we get denials. In March of twenty twenty two,
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Andrew paid Miss Roberts millions of dollars to settle a
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civil lawsuit in the US, but he accepted no liability
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over the allegations of sexual assault. She brought the case
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under the New York Child Victims Act because it allowed
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her to raise allegations, which would otherwise have passed the
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statute of them imitations in US law. Given one of
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the alleged assaults took place in London, the Met Police
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has faced pressure to investigate the Royal. The fact that
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Miss Roberts was seventeen at the time is not in
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itself a crime, because the legal age of consent in
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the UK is sixteen. However, if it could be proved
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that Miss Roberts was a victim of sex trafficking, or
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that Andrew had paid for the encounter, it's possible it
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could have criminal implications for the Prince. Well, we know
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that it was paid for, but Andrew didn't pay for it.
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Jeffrey Epstein did. That was all part of the hustle, right,
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part of Jeffrey Epstein's largess if you will, and it
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was also part of the cover up to make sure
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that there's plausible deniability. Well, I have no idea this
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was provided to me or whatever it might be. And
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Prince Andrew's dumbass, I said from the very beginning, should
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have came out and said I was blackmailed. Jeffrey Epstein,
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you know, coerced me into all of this, and I
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had nothing to do with his bullshit. But he didn't
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even do that. He wouldn't even throw his buddy under
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the bus, would he. So it makes me believe and
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leads me to believe that he's way more involved than
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we even know. Former Met Commissioner Chresida Dick claim no
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one is above the law once she promised to review
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documents from the civil suit in twenty twenty one, but
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the force later confirmed they were taking no further action
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against the Prince. Well that's because he is above the law.
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If it was anybody else, forget it. And I know
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I say this all the time, but you can't even
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make crazy posts on the internet in England anymore. But
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if you're associated with Epstein and molested little girls, I
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guess that's okay. It was the third time that the
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Force had refused to launch an investigation. Issues police considered
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were whether there was evidence of a crime and whether
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the UK was the right jurisdiction for the case to
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be dealt with. Miss Dick said. Doctor Proudman called for
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the Met to reopen their investigation, adding the force has
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an intran problem with misogyny in a pattern of minimizing
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violence against women and girls. In light of further evidence
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that has come to lighten her book, it's difficult to
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understand why the Met have not reopened their investigation into
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Virginia Robert's original allegations against Andrew. She said, It's not
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just about one man or one case. It's about whether
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the police are prepared to confront their failures to protect women,
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especially when the accused is powerful. The investigation should be
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reopened so that the survivors can have confidence that no
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one is above the law. Cabinet Minister Peter Kyl on
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Tuesday urged Andrew to cooperate with the US authorities and
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give evidence about Epstein's crimes. In twenty twenty, federal investigators
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accused Andrew of providing zero cooperation with the US probe
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into Epstein and his conspirators, despite promising he was willing
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to help when he stood down from public duties in
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twenty nineteen. Oh well, what he lied to us? Come on,
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Prince Andrew, the pillar of the Earth type of guy,
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a man that would never lie to anybody, lie to us.
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I am blown away, folks, absolutely blown away, said nobody ever.
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The guy's been lying about everything since the very beginning,
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and the fact that all these receipts are coming out
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now and sink in his ass is joyful to watch.
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This week. Business Secretary Mister Kyle urged him to stick
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to his word, telling ITVS good morning, Britain. I think
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anybody that has any information that could bring justice and
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information to victims of Jeffrey Epstein's crimes should be fully
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engaging with any of the authorities that are seeking to
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deliver that information and justice for the victims. He added.
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Those victims must be first, and they must be central
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to how we discuss and debate any of these issues
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relating to Jeffrey Epstein's saga, situation and crimes, he committed. So,
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of course, anybody anywhere that has information that can deliver
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that justice should be sharing it openly. I believe that
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Andrew in the past has said that he would co oper,
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and I urge him to stick by his word on that.
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Shadow Justice Secretary Robert Jenrick agreed Andrews should give evidence
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to US authorities about what he knew and what his
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involvement was in the scandal. So when it's all undone,
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here's the bottom line. Nobody's asking for a witch hunt,
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nobody's asking for revenge. What people want is the same
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thing they expect if they were in the hot seat. Accountability,
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the truth, a straight answer without the crown, the courtiers
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or the carefully worded regret. Because justice doesn't care if
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you were born in a palace or a prison. It
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should only care what you did and who you heard.
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And that's the part that's really got a sting for Andrew,
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the realization that, no matter how many press statements he
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hides behind, the world's already made up its mind. Silence
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speaks louder than any denial, and his silence is deafening.
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He's not just running from investigators, He's trying to run
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from history, and unfortunately for him, history doesn't forget. The
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Epstein story isn't going away, the victim aren't backing down,
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and every time Andrew tries to step back into public life,
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the shadow is going to be right there, waiting to
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remind him of what he refused to face. He can
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keep retending, keep hiding, keep clinging to titles, but the
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truth doesn't need his permission to catch up. So yeah,
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maybe he'll keep dodging investigators. But sooner or later the
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royal armor cracks. The public's patience is going to run out,
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and when that day comes, when the mass finally slips
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for good, he'll find out what real accountability looks like,
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not the kind written by lawyers, but the kind written
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