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Cora + Thomson FIRED · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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This episode 6 O 6. I'll be your host, Kyle Korner.
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I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes.
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Nate, JB. Whoa.
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Casey. Whoa.
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Casey. That felt that felt intentional.
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I don't know. You don't seem very remorseful.
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How are we been better? I can really.
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Just be on just you're, you're in a safe place.
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You're with friends. I thought I was with friends.
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Just tell us. Tell us what this process has
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been like for you. What are you talking about?
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Are you OK? Yeah.
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I feel like you're now on the level of acceptance.
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You're moving forward. You've accepted where your
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fandom is at. Have you started looking into
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other things in life? Have you considered trying
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something else other than rooting for the red?
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Casey you have? You suddenly, you said you
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started fishing again. That was last year, too cold.
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It's still too cold now. Yeah.
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You know, as a, as a, as a Red Sox fan like you, Nate.
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I'm a Red Sox fan. It's it's been tough, you know,
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it's been tough seeing the guy that's been, I'm good leading
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the charge. I'm a Red Sox fan.
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Seeing the guy that's lead been leading the charge since 20. 18
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The only reason he gets up in the morning, then that's what it
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has to be. Seeing the guy leading the
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charge since 2018 just get taken out at the knees.
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What are you? What are you?
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What are you looking at? What are you watching?
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This is why we got to walk off. This is why we got to turn the
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TV's off. Matt Olson hit a walk off.
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Turn the TV off. Turn the TV off.
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I'm tripping, I'm tripping, I'm driving.
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I'm sliding through the back like power.
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No Bing bak boom Bing bak. Bam.
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Yeah. Alex Korra, man, we, we we
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talked about it on on Sunday, Sunday Clubhouse.
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But for those who were unable to join us, we, we talked about the
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news happening over the weekend. Alex Korra being let go on what
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day was that? Saturday.
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Saturday, yeah, It was after the.
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It was after the the how many runs did we put that?
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In Yeah 17. 17 game, fellow Red Sox fan that you should
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remember. Yeah, it's I'll, I'll, I'll say
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what I said on Sunday. The fact that Craig Breslow is
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still employed by the Boston Red Sox and Alex Cora is not is so
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beyond me. I if, if you were so, if you
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were so insistent upon Alex Gordon needing to be gone and
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you needing a a new voice in the clubhouse, fine.
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But Craig Breslow also needs to go because he's doing this team
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no favors and he's only I'm I'm seeing more reports come out
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that they're just they're Dr. lining this franchise into the
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ground like they're just going full blown driveline and we'll
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see. I mean, everybody, all the Alex
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Gore haters, they saw Chad Tracy win his first game at the helm
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and they said this team's different.
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You just watch. And then we just got blown out
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by a, a, a corpse of a Blue Jays team today.
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Brian Baio, no thanks to you, But yeah, to answer your
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question. You sound good.
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With every day that passes, you know I did have the thought
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today. I'm like, you know, I I'm an
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Alex Korra guy, as you can see right here.
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Shout out YouTube if you watch on YouTube, huge Alex Korra guy
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and I will be as long as he doesn't get any hot water for
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anything. But it's it's gotten to a point
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for me where I was like some of the answers were getting a
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little stale. And, you know, they always talk
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about needing, needing to sort of reset the cycle every so many
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years for not just managing a baseball team, but just so many
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things. You know, after a while, you
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just need to sort of hit the reset button.
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And I'm not saying that I think that's what should have happened
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here, but I could maybe understand the logic.
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I just think Craig Breslio needs to be out, that's all.
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Weren't there like parts of his his quotes that came out in the
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press or after of of him Like like basically talking about how
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the roster configuration like isn't like Carrabba's was on MLB
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Network and I watched bits and pieces of that and he's like the
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issues with the Red Sox have been like known like it.
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These are these have been issues for your Your log jam in the
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outfield has been an issue the. I I saw it described today.
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That's all the outfield log jam descriptor, which like you to
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your point, has been known. But I saw today the the the
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lineup described as punchless and I'm like that that's so
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perfect for described there. We have no threat like you look
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at the Yankees, you know, Oh, they lost Soto.
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Well, apparently Ben Rice is like Juan Soto 2 point O
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apparently. So it's like you've got judge,
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you've got Ben Rice, you've got other names.
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You got belly up and down that lineup.
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Red Sox have nobody. I don't know, I nobody.
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I, I think, I think there's pieces that are absolutely
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coming and I think that there's probably a lot of fans of other
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fan bases that we'd be thrilled with those pieces if the right
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pieces stick around anyway. But it's it's just like the
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decisions that Breslow has made it it it felt like Alex Korra
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was the only thing keeping that team from like fully being
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pissed at the front office. You know, and, and what's crazy
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to me is that like, I'm not trying to piggyback off of every
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Carabas point, but what he said on MLB Network was like that
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front office refuses to like take a risk on a move like they
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they have to outright win a trade, otherwise they're not
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going to do it. And that's just not how trading
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works. That's just there has to be risk
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reward involved and you know, to not like the.
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There's got to be staying on both sides.
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Right. And, and to not like the
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conversations going back to this past offseason with like the
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rumors around Jaron Duran going to Kansas City and, and, you
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know, getting Cole Reagan's in return, like that stuff like
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it's just strange to me how certain moves have been made,
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certain moves haven't been made. We pivot from having to, you
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know, lose this guy and add this guy.
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And it's like not answering certain issues that you knew
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were issues going into last year, then last season happens.
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There's still issues. You go into the offseason, you
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still don't take care of them. You start this year and you like
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gaslight your fanbase into thinking everything's going to
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be fine. And then like, it feels like the
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one link that was like keeping that clubhouse sane is now been
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bounced along with his staff so. What I'm hearing you say, jokes
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aside, what I'm hearing you say is a non Red Sox fan from the
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outside Is that the roster that was constructed was garbage and
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yet somehow that falls on Alex Kora.
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You slot anybody, any manager, any managerial candidate in that
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slot to lead that team, you're not getting a good outcome.
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Nate's not hearing a word I'm saying because apparently
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there's another game on right now that's got a huge.
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Moment I feel bad for our guy JV that's all that was he's about a
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foot away from having a walk off home run yes that's what I'm
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saying I'm saying it didn't matter because it's like I how
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do you we we can go back for a while now and like it's it's
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just some of the bonehead moves where it's like you you move on
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from mookie and you get these pieces that are already gone
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that don't really make sense you you decide to not commit to
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Xander now the guy that replaced him at shortstop I believe is
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the worst ranked defensive shortstop in baseball at the
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moment you. Who I believe is pissed that
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extra pissed that Core is gone because Cora would go to bat for
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him, but now I feel like he doesn't feel like he has any
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positional job security. Because.
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Because Craig Breslow presumably does not like him.
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And he's and he's not really doing anything offensively
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correct. No, he's not doing himself any
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favors. No.
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Yeah, So I get that. And and that's the other side of
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this too, is that like, and I think I saw some Pedro quotes of
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like, players have to take some of this responsibility as well.
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Of course they do that. That's what our entire game is.
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That's why players get DFA. That's why players get traded.
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That's why players, certain players get contracts and
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certain don't. I'm just saying like the the
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evidence of this, this front office making the decisions that
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they have where they treated Devers like crap.
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They basically sold him for chips though.
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Half that deal is already dissolved.
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They're not even Red Sox anymore.
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You don't want to commit to the one thing Alex Bregman was
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asking for in a no trade clause. And then you pivot by going and
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getting an arm. And again, like I'm not, I think
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Ranger Suarez is good. I think every rotation needs
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lefties. But like a lefty in Fenway where
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you're going to see a lot of right-handed hitters going
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towards the monster. Like there's just I don't know
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what they're doing. I don't I don't understand the
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moves that they've made and I don't understand the directions
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that they're heading or not heading.
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I would be frustrated as hell. It's it's insane to watch from
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the outside. I still just don't understand
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how Aaron Boone still has a job. Well, I mean, they're, they're
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doing well, but I'm just saying like over the course of however
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many years you want to look. At we're the regular season
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bandits. Maybe that's what we do so.
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I don't know how Carlos Mendoza still has a job.
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I mean, we'll get into that, you know, maybe not for long, but.
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Yeah. I mean, JB, obviously we're
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we're two fans that are in this division.
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So what do you think of being as a fan that's not in this in this
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division? I mean, it tell me it doesn't
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look insane what the Red Sox have done over the last major
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stretch of, what, four years now?
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Post 2021, yeah. Well, Breslow came in in 23,
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right? October of 23, I, I believe is
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when Breslow came in. And so that, that all starts
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with not signing, not signing Bogarts, right?
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That's when he left. So that's that's where you
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start. No, no, that was that was Heim.
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Heim was the the Bogart's Craig's first move, I want to
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say was the sale trade. Heim Heim was was bogey.
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So this says October, Yeah, you're right, 'cause October
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25th, 2023 and 2023 was Bogart's first year, so yeah.
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So, yeah. So he can't really, he can't be
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thrown into that as far as decision making process goes,
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like Breslow's separate from the Bogarts deal, you really can't
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go back to that point. As far as the roster goes, I
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mean, I'm not a guru, but I picked him to win 95 games and,
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and, and win the division. So I don't think that this
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roster was built poorly. I don't.
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I do. You also had them in the post
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season. I know, but I that doesn't mean
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that I I think that the. I don't think, I don't think
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they are well, I don't think they are who they are now, you
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know what I mean? Like I think they're better than
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what they are playing as right now for sure.
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Right. And that's always going to fall
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if you're AGM or a whatever his actual title is chief baseball
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officer and and you think you put together a good roster and
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it's not performing and something needs to happen.
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That's that's your call to make something Kora going away seems
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crazy to me. And I don't think that what is
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going on in the field right now is is a Kora thing, right?
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This is this is a roster full of guys who are underperforming.
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You've had you've had, I don't know, man, I, I don't see it
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that way. I don't see this as a bad
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roster. I think that that I think that
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they've been good. Of course there are some players
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who've come in who I mean, obviously you want to keep
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Bregman. That's a big deal, right?
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And that's not on Cora, unless Cora said don't bring him back.
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Trust me, go get this Durbin kid.
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It's a good. Roster, if you're a low to
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middle market team, what I've said countless times, this is
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the Boston Red Sox. Why are we, why are we nickel
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and diming people like why are we just why is it an absolute
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must? Like Nate said, and as, as has
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been well documented with Craig Breslow's, albeit short tenure,
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that you have to win outright win every single trade.
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Like just go take a risk, go overextend yourself a little bit
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to get somebody that you know is going to objectively make your
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team better. They don't do that.
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They try to, they they lean into this driveline.
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They over lean into the analytics, they over lean into
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projections. Like just go, well, I've, I, I,
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it sounds simplistic, It sounds even old school, but just go get
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proven talent and stop trying to roll the dice like you're some
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Miami Marlins farm team. Like, I just be the Boston Red
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Sox. That's that's all there is to
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it. So if they spend a bunch of
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money, if they spend a bunch of money on known stars and they
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don't perform, then you're OK getting rid of Korra?
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Yeah. I mean if if the reasoning just
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or like if the if the evidence supported that being the move
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needed to be made. Like the Phillies and the Mets,
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it can happen with anyone, man. It doesn't.
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Matter the Mets get the Mets is a great example.
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Get good players. I don't care how much they cost.
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Throw money out of the situation.
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Money has nothing to do with whether or not your baseball
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team is going to win games. Zero.
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Look at the Mets. Look at the Phillies.
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Money doesn't matter. Get.
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Good players, but if you ran a simulation 100 times.
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I think the Red Sox are in it too.
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If you run the simulation 100 times, I think they're in a no
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no. I'm just saying if you're
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taking, if you're taking a team that's just filled the gills
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with money or or I should say has spent just crazy money and
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then a team that has not, you run that simulation 100 times,
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the team that spent the money is going to win more games.
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I, I think the difference being is it's kind of like the ripple
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effect of what it shows the clubhouse, right?
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Like, I think if you are a player in that clubhouse and you
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feel like it's kind of like when a deadline goes by, a trade
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deadline goes by and your team didn't add, when like everyone
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felt like you were one piece away versus when someone does,
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right? And so like for the Red Sox
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offseason as an example, and I don't remember the order, I
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could be speaking out of order of when they signed.
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But like the Pete, Pete, Alonso felt like the the most sensible
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pivot if Bregman didn't come back.
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Yeah, you missed out on Bregman. You think, OK, let's pivot,
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let's pivot to another big corner bat.
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You miss out on Alonso. Right and like.
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Then it's Durban. What does that do to the fate
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like the faith of that clubhouse, the the clubhouse
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faith in that front office, If you do spend the money and go
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get a piece that like is a great fit that you know is going to
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boost. And it just kind of seems like,
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like you said, like if it goes stale for a while and the team
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is sitting here like, I don't know what's up, but like we just
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need a little bit of a shift, not entirely blow up our main
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voice and our leader. And I don't know, dude.
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It's just like it's. It's hard to fathom.
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Give me going back to the the whole thing about spending money
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versus not give me the the proven talent and if they
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underperform, I'll be upset, but I'll I'll know that the ceiling
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was there. You roll out and you roll out a
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lackluster roster, poorly constructed, having spent less
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money than you very easily could have.
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The ceilings not there. There's a reason that the
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players aren't as good that they're not being that they
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don't have the same price tag is because they're not as good.
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And so the ceiling is not going to be the same.
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Sure. Could you luck into a team, you
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know, back on their way into the post season and going on a
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little bit of a run? Sure.
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But are the odds greater that that happens than a a higher
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payroll team is going to make it in?
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No. Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at
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this. I don't like the Wilson
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Contreras move, right? I don't like her.
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He's a one. He's he's a 130 player on the
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team right now. That's what I'm saying.
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He's a 133 OPS plus right now. And that's a guy that you went
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out and got. He's actually performing well.
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Trevor Story is is a is a league average hitter one O 7 OPS plus
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last year he's sitting at 45 and Jaron Duran has a 3838 OPS plus
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proven talent. Jared Duran proven no question
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about it. Best player on the team should
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be. Well. 38.
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I was of the camp that you would need to see, you would have need
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to have seen another year, maybe not like MVP vote type or like
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top five WAR Jared Duran that we got in whatever that was 23.
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But I would have need to have seen at least one more year
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before I I was, you know, throwing any sort of label
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around like everybody was saying you should have traded them
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after that year. Maybe you could have just gotten
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lucky and stumbled, stumbled into a great return.
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But I think I think the the smarter baseball minds and
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that's maybe what happened is that he maybe he was just
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shopped around and people are like, eh, this may have just
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been like a a flash in the pan. We're going to need to see a
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little bit more consistency. So I don't, I was never really
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in the camp of being fully 100% bought in on Jan Duran being
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this this stud. Even if he's not a stud the last
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three years though, it's been A119137118 OPS, but like he's
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still like it's not the 1:37, but a 118 OPS plus is going to
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play. That's a good player.
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Oh. Yeah, it's an awesome, the
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athleticism he carries if nothing else.
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Roman Anthony, who would be, you know, like Nate said would be
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the best place. He's 84 OPS plus like you're
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talking about guys that should be there.
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You Abreu still hitting, Rafael is still hitting, and you've got
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Garrett Crochet with a 630 ERA. Who just hit the shelf?
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You got Sonny Gray, who's on the shelf.
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You've got Luis Oviedo, who they brought in on the shelf.
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Like I'm just saying like, I don't think the roster was that
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bad. And really Bresla's the he's the
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one making the call, right? I mean, if Bresla says core is
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gone, Bresla's not going to say. I'm also firing myself.
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It's no, it's, it's less about, it's less about the individual
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names and more about addressing or not addressing the needs, the
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fits, the holes that existed going into this year, going into
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last year, going into the year before that, going all the way
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back to 2021. It's just this repeat like,
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well, we have a glaring hole here, but we're going to go get
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a bat, another starting pitcher so we can have pitch in depth,
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which isn't in and of itself a bad thing.
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But like maybe maybe that should be the last thing we do in the
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offseason. And maybe we should start the
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offseason by going out and getting an impact bat because
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right now we have none. But it's also the configuration
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of a roster. Like I'm not going to sit here
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and do the whole Red Sox, Yankees comparison, but like you
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did open that door already. So I'm just going to walk
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through it. We talk about guys right now
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like Ahmed Rosario, Jose Caballero, you know, like guys
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that are OK being that that bench role that understand what
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that role is. You guys have 5 outfielders who
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realistically should be starting every day somewhere.
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If it's not with your team, it needs to be elsewhere.
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But that's just who they are. They're everyday guys.
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And like who are Marcelo Meyer? Like can we commit to a
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direction of how we want to treat this guy when he comes up,
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right? What position is he going to
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play? Can we let a young player have
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just a regular position every day and play?
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And they haven't done that. And then it's just like, I'm not
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saying the names don't make sense.
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I think it's just like the lack of direction on roles and the
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commitment versus like, let's just constantly ride with the
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hot hand and expect guys to be off and other guys to be on when
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those guys are off. Like it's just, it doesn't work
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that way. You got to have your group of
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everyday guys that you can plug in 140 to 160 games and then you
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got to have your guys that are willing to play 80 games and
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really dive into being good at that role.
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Wilson Contreras is not an everyday guy.
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I think he's doing very well so far.
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But like, if that's your right-handed bop, I think you, I
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think you misunderstood the way this roster needs to go.
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That's the guy that guy needs to be playing twice a week, 3 * a
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week Max, right? If that's the role that he's
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able to accept, whether he's able to accept it is a whole
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different thing, but. Yeah, they're definitely missing
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that. I mean, I, I, I don't, we've
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talked about Caleb Durbin and whether or not like, I, I
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thought, OK, well, it you could have done worse.
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I liked them. But like really, I mean the the
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problem is if it's Alonzo, I mean you go back to Bregman,
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like why are you not offering the option?
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Not offering an option is something that that small market
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teams are afraid of doing. You know what I mean?
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And, and the Red Sox should just be, oh, you want an option, OK,
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cool, we can do that. So Bregman's really the guy.
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But if you pivot to Pete Alonzo, then really, you haven't changed
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much. To be honest, you haven't
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changed much because of how Contreras has hit.
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So you end up with just Contreras coming in every once
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in a while and you still have a first baseman.
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I'm not going to sit here and pretend like they knew that.
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Granted, we're only a month into the season, but I'm not going to
26:12
we're we can't sit here and pretend like they they had the
26:16
foresight to know that Alonzo is going to have a slow start.
26:19
And again, by the end of the year, their numbers are going to
26:23
look presumably much different. So let's just, I mean, we can't
26:27
sit here and pretend that we knew that Contreras were going
26:30
to be the team's best hitter. That and going back to the fact
26:33
that like what does it do to that team moving forward saying
26:36
we just got a guy locked up who, you know, let another franchise
26:42
in home all time home runs right now.
26:44
He's our first baseman moving forward and like that set,
26:48
there's so much of this everyday lineup that like what set, who's
26:53
set? I don't know who where does
26:57
sedan make more sense playing second because you have so many
27:00
outfielders is is Trevor like Trevor Story's set?
27:04
Kind of, but he's playing terribly.
27:06
So it's like I don't, it's such a question mark every single
27:10
day. And it's just like you think
27:13
that baseball will take care of itself and and the play on the
27:18
field will solve all these issues.
27:20
And it's like, I just don't think it will, and it's not
27:23
right now. So to the Alonzo quote, though I
27:26
was assuming Alonzo, I was taking away the the hot or the
27:30
the cold start. If Alonzo's still hot, like you
27:33
still take away Wilson Contreras in the starting lineup.
27:36
So you replace a good hitter for a good hitter, it still doesn't
27:40
help the team. That's that was the point I was
27:41
making. And it's not like Wilson
27:43
Contreras is surprising anybody. I mean, he's had, he's had at
27:47
least a 126 OPS plus for the last five years.
27:50
He's actually, I think he's playing pretty good defense at
27:52
first too, isn't? He yeah, I've been happy with
27:54
it. But no, it's more it's more just
27:58
a it's it's more like Nate's been saying, it's more just
28:00
about instilling like a little bit of belief in your team where
28:04
it's like, Hey, this is a year where we we feel confident in in
28:07
extending this offer to a guy like Pete Alonso.
28:11
And like we we needed impact bat a corner bat and we went out and
28:15
got that. But their whole thing of like,
28:17
well, we just feel like Wilson contrary is just a good fit.
28:20
OK, Like, whatever. If you if you believe that,
28:22
fine. On top of that, like who's the
28:24
leader in that clubhouse? Who's the voice?
28:26
Don't have one, especially how many how many times have you
28:29
seen extensions, you know, in season extensions of a player, a
28:33
big contracts for a player and you look in where all the
28:37
reporters are sitting and half the seats are filled with their
28:39
current team mates because they're happy for that guy.
28:42
Like I think there's definitely some things that that feed into
28:46
that clubhouse and like other, you know, team mates are happy
28:49
for their team mates and it's like there's they're
28:52
directionless. I think they're voiceless and
28:56
noncommittal and very many different aspects of that
29:00
lineup. Speaking of. 30 minutes later.
29:06
I mean, that's what you knew, you know what I mean?
29:09
You knew it was you knew it was going there and it had to.
29:11
I think this this one is way more puzzling to me that I think
29:16
the Red Sox deal is, is the one that that really especially
29:20
because it's not just Cora. Yeah, right.
29:24
It's a whole slew of guys that were removed from that
29:26
clubhouse. And that's the thing that that
29:30
just doesn't make sense. I mean, I think ultimately, and
29:33
this is, this is the last thing I'll say.
29:34
Well, First off, I will say Nate, they only have 4
29:37
outfielders now. I, I think Kyle will tell you
29:42
Yoshida, he doesn't plan on being in the starting line up.
29:45
So. But on paper he is like that.
29:48
He's technically in that mix. So it's.
29:51
Just right. He's not an everyday DH.
29:53
Either no. That's right, that's the thing.
29:55
So you have the three outfielders and Roman Anthony,
29:59
who's the who's DA? And I know they're mixing a
30:01
match in there, but Satan Rafaela could be defensively one
30:04
of the top three center fielders in the game.
30:07
I don't think you do that and put that guy on second base,
30:09
correct? You take away a huge.
30:11
I agree, I think it's just more of like an intermediate fix to
30:15
the log jam in the outfield, that's all.
30:17
I don't think it's a log jam anymore now that you got rid of
30:19
the password. I don't really think he was
30:24
going to be a a huge player, at least immediately in the
30:27
outfield log jam, but to your point.
30:30
Well, I think last year the conversation was that he was
30:32
blocked. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, for
30:35
sure. Like he's definitely, he's
30:37
definitely in the depth conversation.
30:38
But I mean, just even with him gone, we still have just too
30:44
many outfielders. Anyway, Speaking of log jam, the
30:52
Phillies don't have a log jam in the managerial spot because Rob
30:57
Thompson is gone. I found out today.
31:01
How many times? Well, I guess it's probably not
31:03
that many, but I I presumably have typed his name out a
31:08
handful of times. I realized today that there's no
31:12
P in Thompson. Really.
31:18
Yes, Thomson. SON and I also found out which.
31:24
No wonder he's fired. Yeah, get this guy out of here
31:28
and more reason, more reason. Get him out of here.
31:31
And I'm sure I'd heard this, but maybe just forgot about it.
31:33
Guy's Canadian too, So no, I'm just kidding.
31:37
No disrespect. He, he's a good Topper as as us
31:41
Phillies people call him. He's a, he's a, he's a player's
31:46
manager man. And unlike the Boston Red Sox
31:52
brass who decide, well, no, we're not going to ask questions
31:56
today, Rob Thompson made it a point that he was going to
32:02
accept questions. He's he, he felt as though the
32:06
transparency was something that, you know, fans deserve, players
32:10
deserve. So he he accepted questions.
32:15
But yeah, he is no longer the manager of the Philadelphia
32:17
Phillies. Relieved of his duties on
32:20
Tuesday. Somewhere in the mix, Cora was
32:26
was asked by GM Dombrowski. Interesting.
32:36
I think that was probably a good decision on Cora's part.
32:39
Yeah, And what did I say? I said now he's he's going to
32:42
want to go home, enjoy time with his family.
32:45
He's a big Family Guy. And I saw somebody today.
32:48
They're like, why would you? Hey, it seems today that all you
32:54
see is violence and sex on TV. No, I was singing the song.
33:03
I know violence in movies and sex on TV.
33:05
They said movies. Yeah.
33:07
Violence, movies. Violence in movies.
33:10
In movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:12
Anyway, anyway, yeah. Big Family Guy.
33:13
Guy. My God, my guy.
33:18
No Family Guy Family Guy, I saw a guy tweet today.
33:23
They're like, would you want to be relieved from a dumpster fire
33:27
organization and then take an extended vacation, a paid
33:35
vacation to go home to Puerto Rico, or would you want to leave
33:39
that dumpster organization and go to Philly and leave there?
33:42
He's like, it's a good, good call on chorus part.
33:45
Yeah. I mean eventually.
33:47
To another dumpster situation seems like.
33:51
From dumpster to dumpster. Whoa, whoa.
33:54
Are we? Are we talking about Puerto
33:56
Rico? What are we talking about here?
33:57
No. No Philly.
33:58
Philly. Oh no, yeah, well, that's that's
34:01
the whole point. I it was assumed with not only
34:04
the city itself, but the the team as well.
34:06
I thought it was this. No, no, this is kind of the
34:09
whole package. No disrespect.
34:12
I'm sure the people of Philly are are nice people.
34:17
I'm so confused. I whether you're a Philly fan or
34:19
not, I don't know. You're really really throwing me
34:22
for some loops. Here, I mean, I can be a Philly
34:24
guy, but just also recognize that, you know, maybe the city
34:27
is not. I'm like, great.
34:29
I mean, we're talking about the baseball team.
34:33
I heard, I heard somebody say that Cora would rather go home
34:38
and spend time with his kids rather than spend time with an
34:42
organization and their lack of kids.
34:49
Yes, that means the aging result.
34:51
Yeah, yeah. But here's the thing, and I may
34:53
have even. No, I was talking to somebody at
34:55
work about this that I think is a great fit for a guy like Cora
35:01
who is old school in that sense. He would align, the visions
35:07
would align a lot better with older veterans.
35:13
And he's not having a babysit like he was here in Boston with
35:16
this, this whole group of young bucks, which I'm not taking
35:19
anything away from them, but they're they're just they are
35:22
young. They they got a lot of learning
35:24
to do. And you know, that does fall on
35:26
the manager, but without a doubt.
35:28
But you also have to remember some of the teams that core has
35:33
been, you know, teams that he's managed, he hasn't had to do
35:38
that as much. He just does the coaching on the
35:42
field and he doesn't have to teach guys where to throw the
35:45
ball when they get it in the outfield or, or when to run.
35:49
Like, you know, things like that, that they, that these
35:51
younger guys just we talk about all the time these, these,
35:57
what's the word? Lack of development.
35:59
The like the baseball IQ, it's just it's non existent right
36:07
now. Some of these young guys.
36:08
But anyway, so you were saying, JB, this is less surprising to
36:13
you? I feel like most people would
36:15
agree. Yeah, yeah.
36:19
Again, though, and and and I think we disagree on this, but
36:24
we're talking about two rosters that were supposed to win games.
36:29
And when you don't and you should, these are the things
36:34
that people talk about. I think again, the core thing
36:39
was because it was, it was what was it total six guys just gone.
36:46
Yeah, right. I I don't know including.
36:50
Veritec. Right, which he was.
36:53
What was that about? Reassigned and he just declined
36:56
it. Yes, yeah, I'm not.
36:59
That was their that was their way of saying you're gone.
37:01
But we're not going to. We're not going to we're not
37:04
going to put out a press release that includes the words Jason
37:07
Veritec fired in it. Right.
37:09
And he was like, I, I can, I've been around this team long
37:12
enough. I can read between the lines.
37:14
I'm a, I'm a grown man. I know what this means.
37:16
I'm not sticking around. No thanks.
37:18
And that's when he hit him with the thumbs down emoji, the Core
37:21
or the thumbs down gesture and Core's picture of them hopping
37:27
on the the private jet. I guess the only thing that's
37:32
that's you know, when you think about it after the fact,
37:37
Dombrowski hired Thompson where on the other side of the fence
37:42
when we're talking about Boston like that, what wasn't his guy?
37:45
And a lot of GMs come in and yeah, a lot of GMs come in and
37:49
and make that move right away. But he's I want my guy.
37:52
Slide into that role though, he was already there, wasn't he
37:55
with with Gerard? He was, he was a coach, yeah.
37:59
And he was still right. He I don't.
38:03
Know. If he made, he was made the
38:05
manager in 2022, Dombrowski came in the year before that, so he
38:10
essentially then became the guy, but he may still would have made
38:14
that higher. Well, he took he took over the
38:17
same year they went to the World Series, correct?
38:20
Yes, 2022 I I don't know the history of was he an interim and
38:25
then hired or was he hired right away?
38:27
I. Remember that he finished out
38:29
the year and. Then so so still hired by
38:33
Dombrowski, you know what I'm saying?
38:34
Like they, they made it his guy. They regardless of, of of
38:42
however it happened or whether he was there before or not, it
38:45
still is, you know, it's still a guy that he appointed to that
38:49
position. They still signed off on.
38:51
Those papers, yeah. And he could have he could have
38:53
that interim thing could have ended at the end of the year and
38:55
he could have went and got his guy.
38:56
He still chose him, his guy. I mean, I feel like he chose
39:00
him. I.
39:01
I mean, I feel like you have, and I'm, I'm having this, this
39:04
same line of thinking not to keep going back to the Red Sox.
39:06
But like with the Chad Tracy replacement of him coming in now
39:10
from, from AAA, it's like you hear the interim conversation
39:17
and you're like, well, is it going to stick around?
39:19
Is it going to be the guy moving forward?
39:22
And it's like, I feel like if you do a respectable job or if
39:26
you even surpass expectations, I feel like the job is yours.
39:30
Because how like, how else are you going to justify being like,
39:34
especially in a case like Chad Tracy where you've got
39:37
essentially the whole year? If they ride it out that long,
39:41
they may look, I, I think I saw a report that said they may be
39:43
looking at other options to come in mid season.
39:47
But if you've got a full year and you do a respectable job, I
39:51
feel like the job's yours in most cases.
39:55
Going back to what you were saying, if you wanted like being
39:59
old school and Alex Cora, you know, maybe fitting the Philly
40:03
roster a little bit better. Hard to imagine it getting more
40:07
old school than Don Mattingly. So what do we think of of that
40:13
fit? Because that guy's very much
40:15
always been like a shut up and just show up and do your job
40:18
kind of guy. I think Cora is a better fit
40:21
because while he he presumably resonates better with the
40:26
veterans, he's still young enough that he's got that fire.
40:30
Like he he get he can get fired up.
40:32
Like you've seen him, you've seen him lose his cool on the on
40:35
the diamond and and like he's still got that to him.
40:39
But I just feel like Don Mattingly, especially
40:41
considering he was he was Wayne retirement after the end of last
40:47
year with the Jays. Like I, I just don't know.
40:51
But I think that in his situation, this is clearly
40:54
interim, like he's saying, sure, sure, sure, buddy.
40:57
I'll help you out. I mean, his son is the GM.
41:00
Yeah, which is just wild. What a.
41:03
Great. Hey Dad, please stick around a
41:05
little bit longer. Yeah.
41:09
Does this basically mean a great point?
41:11
Does this mean Don Mattingly is essentially running the
41:13
organization because you get his son's going to tell him to?
41:18
Well, what is Dombrowski's actual because he's still above
41:22
the GM. Like a lot of GMs are the top
41:25
decision maker, but when you start throwing in this base
41:28
president of baseball or. The Pobo.
41:30
Whatever, whatever it I, I said what the title of Preslow was.
41:37
What? What was that?
41:38
Chief operator. Baseball operator.
41:41
Yeah. Something like that, whatever.
41:42
So they're naming all these extra positions thing and.
41:45
Wiper. Yeah, when you're AGM under
41:48
that, I mean, it's it's Dombrowski's call still, you
41:50
know what I'm saying? No, no, I, I thought it was
41:53
funny. It's, it's almost interesting
41:56
because it kind of feels like, felt like they knew or felt like
42:01
it was at least a possibility, right?
42:03
Like, obviously the expectations of the Phillies were high, but
42:07
like, Rob Thompson was kind of on the hot seat.
42:10
This isn't the, you know, this isn't random.
42:12
He was on the hot seat last year.
42:14
And it's interesting that it's like, did did they did they
42:20
bring in Mattingly to soften this blow, knowing that there
42:25
was a potential of letting Rob Thompson go before the season
42:30
was over? You know, like, did they?
42:33
I think you see certain bench coaches put into that role for a
42:36
reason. It's just very interesting to me
42:38
that like you've had this run it back mentality with the roster
42:42
over and over, but somehow you brought in a bench coach that is
42:49
new and can step in easily. My guess I, I could see that
42:55
very much. I mean, who's to really say?
42:57
But I could very much see that being the case.
42:59
I my guess, though, is that they would have hoped that Thompson
43:02
would have lasted longer into the season.
43:05
So you're putting less on Mattingly to shorten the gap, to
43:10
bridge the gap to the offseason to where then you could bring in
43:13
your next guy to run the table for however 3-4, however many
43:17
years you want to keep that guy around, I wonder.
43:18
If that guy was core of the whole time and when he got
43:21
canned, Dombrowski said. Let's make the move now.
43:27
Well, he, I think the report I read is that he talked to him
43:31
Saturday, Dombrowski talked to chorus Saturday when I guess all
43:37
that went down for Boston. And then this was obviously
43:39
before Philly's firing went down.
43:43
So I think. But then once you're committed,
43:45
you're committed, right? If you're going to can him just.
43:49
Yeah, I mean, once you've made it up in your mind that he's
43:51
gone, you're just like, well, I guess it's, I guess it's Madden
43:54
Lee's job at this point. And they're just going to have
43:56
to. I, I I, I think I said this
44:00
Sunday, I genuinely believe Core's going to take the time
44:03
this the rest of the season. He's going to go home, going to
44:06
hit the reset button a little bit, spend some time with his
44:08
family, and then old David D is going to come knocking.
44:12
Oh yeah. That's what I was going to say.
44:17
You think, you think it's there. It's done like it's.
44:20
No, I, I, I wonder how hard he's going to push.
44:23
Like Kyle said, I wonder how hard he's going to push.
44:25
He's going to, he's going to push real hard.
44:28
And I, I think Core is going to do it.
44:31
I saw, I saw somebody saying the other day that that New York
44:35
would be a more desirable position if and when Mendoza
44:41
gets like, oh, I'm like, I don't, I don't know if I'd
44:45
necessarily want to manage in that market.
44:47
Like I just, I just don't. Know I, I think the Mets are for
44:51
that team specifically, whether this is good or bad, I think the
44:56
Mets have a front office that's more desperate and willing to
45:02
ditch their you know what I mean, Their their current
45:07
efforts or what they have on paper.
45:09
Yeah. And just like try something new
45:10
than the other organizations. A great point I did see today,
45:14
though, is that Cora has a great relationship with Lindor being a
45:17
Puerto Rico guy, like that's that's a factor.
45:20
And he's obviously still going to be there for.
45:22
Yeah, that's interesting. So that's definitely
45:24
interesting. Do we think either of these
45:28
teams are going to make the post season?
45:32
No. Are we talking?
45:35
Bill, he's in Red Sox. I feel like the Red Sox would
45:45
have the better shot because of the overall still apparent right
45:55
weakness of the American League. I mean, maybe it's it's levelled
45:58
a little bit, but they're, I mean, the first few weeks into
46:01
the season, the American League was looking dire.
46:05
And so if that's, I mean, I haven't checked the standings
46:08
today, but if that's still sort of the case, at least in
46:11
comparison to the National League, I like the Red Sox
46:13
chances just off that alone. Yeah, the Red Sox are only a
46:18
game and a half out of the wild card right now.
46:21
Right. And the Phillies.
46:22
Are and the Phillies are sick in baseball.
46:26
Yeah, the Mets. The Mets lost, so they have 20
46:30
losses and the Phillies still have 19.
46:32
Oh, oh, that's right. Because Phillies got postponed
46:34
today, Yeah. Yeah, but they're still 6 1/2
46:37
games out, 11 out of the division.
46:39
The Red Sox are sitting only 8 out of the division.
46:42
I mean, that's probably go, I'm sorry, the Red Sox are three and
46:45
three games out. That did not up, that did not
46:47
update fast enough. So they're they're only three
46:50
games out of the wild card and obviously with most of the
46:54
season still left, three games is nothing.
46:57
So then what about the Mets talking about Mendoza?
47:01
Mets coming? In to next, right?
47:03
Oh, for sure. But it's just a matter of when.
47:05
I mean, coming into today, Wednesday, tied for well before
47:10
dropping again tonight, they were tied for the worst record
47:13
in baseball, 10 to 19, I guess, JB said they're now 10 to 20.
47:16
So owners of the worst record in baseball at the end of
47:19
Wednesday. But again, coming into
47:22
Wednesday, they were 30th in OPS, team OPS.
47:24
They were 27th in average, 27th in homers, 29th in runs scored.
47:29
On the pitching side of things, they're actually pretty middle
47:31
of the pack, surprisingly. They're quite literally, I mean,
47:35
anywhere from 10 to 15th in just about any statistical category
47:40
on that side of the ball. But it's really just their
47:42
ability or inability to score runs, produce runs is is proving
47:48
to be their downfall right now. And I think, like you said, Nate
47:50
Mendoza's got to be next. And I think it's just a matter
47:53
of when he his quote, when asked about the whole, you know,
48:00
dismissals of Thompson and Cora, he said it's a reality.
48:05
It sucks what happened to those two guys, guys that I consider,
48:09
you know, some of the best at what they're doing.
48:13
You hate to see it happen, but you understand that it's a
48:15
business and when you don't see the result, it happens.
48:18
I'm aware of it. I'm not going to run away from
48:20
it. But the one thing I can do is
48:22
just continue to show up here and be the best, best for my
48:26
players and get the best out of my players.
48:33
Sounds like a guy that knows he's on his way out.
48:35
Did Stearns hire him too? Just since that was the theme of
48:39
what I was talking about. Yeah.
48:43
Yeah, Mendoza's only this is only, what, his second year?
48:48
Yeah. And and Stearns is pretty fresh
48:51
too though, so I wasn't sure. Is it his second year as well?
48:57
I think it is. OK, you might have a little
49:02
longer leash there. I don't know.
49:07
There's a lot of weird stuff going on right now.
49:09
If you're worried about clubhouse stuff, I think there
49:12
might be a couple players you could talk about.
49:16
You're going to be a manager. Lindor is not Lindor right now.
49:21
I don't know who he is at the moment and you talk about what
49:28
we said, the positive effects of signing a a big player could be
49:33
this kind of seems like the negative effects of bringing in
49:35
Soto like it. Yeah.
49:40
So you do, I mean you would like a manager that could come in and
49:43
handle that sort of a situation? I don't know if Pindoza is that
49:48
guy. I don't know if Pindoza is.
49:50
Is the is has a big enough or us?
49:58
How can I put this? I don't know if Mendoza has a
50:00
strong enough hand to manage the personalities and the egos that
50:05
a New York Mets team had or even not even just this particular
50:08
team, but a New York market worthy team would bring in any
50:15
given year. I just don't know that he has.
50:18
I don't I just I mean you, you would know better, Nate.
50:22
I mean, he was, he was with, he was with the Yankees.
50:27
I'm going to go ahead and assume he's kind of taking the the
50:30
Boone approach. But the difference is, is that
50:32
it's just like the the there's so much turnover on the Mets
50:38
roster and there's so much like, there's not enough like thirst
50:43
for winning the Yankees in that clubhouse.
50:46
And those players are like desperate to win.
50:49
Like it's it's falling short year after year after year.
50:53
And it's the same core. And it's like Boone can do
50:57
whatever he wants. It doesn't matter because the
50:59
players know that like we need to win.
51:02
Like it's plain and simple. When you look at the Mets
51:04
clubhouse, you're like, I you kind of question who's how many
51:10
guys have that as their number one priority?
51:13
And it kind of starts with your number one paid player in Juan
51:16
Soto. Like it it kind of you, I think
51:19
all of us can sit here and wonder of like, is that your
51:23
number one priority? Is that all you want?
51:27
Are you desperate to win? There's just a lot of there's
51:33
not a lot of winners. There's not a lot of winners on
51:35
that team. There's not a lot of guys that
51:37
it's just it's about business. I don't I see a lot of guys that
51:42
it's just like, you know, I make fun of them, but it like it is
51:45
kind of a thing that they keep bringing in Yankees sloppy
51:49
seconds and Devin Williams and Luke Weaver and Clay Holmes.
51:53
They've been doing it for years. And it's like, I don't know, I
51:58
don't understand how there's got to be a reason why certain
52:02
players aren't signing there. You're you're there's a lot of
52:06
like buying low and and hoping for high reward on a lot of
52:10
different players. It's just strange to me.
52:15
Go get winners. That's that's all they care
52:18
about. Go get winners who are willing
52:20
to call out some of their team mates in the clubhouse.
52:23
There's probably not that voice in that clubhouse.
52:26
There's probably no enforcer in that clubhouse.
52:28
There needs to be in everyone. Well, I think Kyle said that
52:31
too, or maybe it was you with the roster turnover, that that's
52:36
a big thing when you don't have a leader.
52:38
Because it should be Lindor and it seems like there's some in
52:45
there who don't want to see Lindor that way.
52:48
And I think it's affecting Lindor, it's affecting the
52:51
clubhouse. But this is also a very good
52:53
example of spending a bunch of money and have no reason to do
52:56
it. They they brought it like Marcus
52:59
Simeon was not going to fix anything.
53:02
Like that's not Luis Robert is not going to fix anything.
53:07
These these are players that I and I noticed they didn't, they
53:09
didn't. They traded for both those guys,
53:11
but they both come with high salaries and Beau Bouchette just
53:14
wasn't the fit. It just none of it made sense
53:18
from the very beginning. 100%. And it just, I don't know, it
53:22
just didn't make sense to me. To your point that got 'cause I
53:27
know you, you connected that to my point earlier about, you
53:30
know, spending the money, overextending, making the big
53:32
trade. I wouldn't have necessarily
53:35
pulled the trigger on any of those names, whether it be
53:37
signing or trade. Marcus sent me an aging middle
53:39
infielder, Louise Roberts, way too much of A risk.
53:43
Beau Bichette, you're going to bring him in.
53:45
I mean, granted a case by case situation depending upon the
53:48
team, but the Mets literally they brought him in to play a
53:52
different position. So it's like that.
53:55
I'm not just saying blindly throw money at people.
53:57
I'm not saying blindly overextend yourself for a big
53:59
trade just to do it. You have to be smart about it.
54:03
But when you find a name that just make going back to Nate's
54:06
point, Pete Alonso just was a no brainer.
54:09
And the Red Sox were like, we've got we've got Pete Alonso at
54:14
home with Wilson Contreras. This is a no brainer to bring
54:16
him back if you're the Mets too. Well, they're just a dumpster
54:21
fire. There's, there's, there's.
54:22
Much toxicity there. There's no, there's zero
54:24
enforcers. There's no one that's willing to
54:27
just get in there and lay down the law.
54:30
And it's so evident when you name all those names, Lubob,
54:36
Soto, Beau Bichette, Lindor, it it doesn't has never really
54:41
screamed like vocal leader. I'm the firm voice here.
54:45
It's more like I just want to show up and have fun and play
54:48
and let my play build my confidence and, well, I.
54:53
Think team guy, but not leader that not that kind of a.
54:56
Right, right. Not yeah, yeah, leader in a
54:57
different. Way I don't want to take Team
54:58
Guy away from Lindor there, but. No, not at all.
55:01
But he's like. If he's not having fun, this is,
55:04
this is what you're going to see, right?
55:06
And if he if he's being forced into being an enforcer, this is
55:11
probably what you're having to see.
55:13
And so it's a weird sign too it. Was all strange, dude.
55:17
It was all strange. Like, it's crazy to me, 'cause I
55:20
can't stand the guy, but it's like, I wonder if Jeff McNeil
55:23
was that piece that was like willing to say whatever needed
55:28
to be said in that clubhouse 'cause he's, he kind of comes
55:31
off that way. Like, I don't care what people
55:33
think, they're going to hear my opinion.
55:35
He's coming around on Jeff McNeil.
55:37
He's. Doing the guy.
55:39
Didn't he and and Lindor kind of disagree a lot, too?
55:43
Probably I mean, and not to get like I'm I'm definitely,
55:47
definitely, definitely not going to go down this rabbit hole too
55:50
much. So please don't ask questions on
55:53
it. We got to get.
55:54
The next question of the week. I heard some stuff around
55:59
Lindor's girlfriend or fiance or wife is like very heavy
56:05
politically on one side and that may have caused some ruffling
56:11
with Brandon Nimmo who was very politically on the other side.
56:16
So you kind of wonder if like how many other players were
56:18
rubbed the wrong way and if Lindor maybe is or some of these
56:23
other players are overly vocal of how they feel politically.
56:26
Like I, I think she's like a in politics though.
56:30
So I think she's got like a very important role in politics that
56:34
affects that. So I don't know.
56:36
It's just it's yet again another example of a of front office
56:39
that's tone deaf to their clubhouse.
56:46
Good managerial discussion. I think we solved a lot of
56:52
problems today. I I mean, a lot of this stuff
56:55
was just couldn't have been more obvious.
56:56
And I just, I, it just baffles me that.
56:59
Get us on the freaking payroll. Front offices just don't see
57:02
these things. Anyway, we got our speed round
57:07
through the credit cannon, so quite literally speed round
57:11
Spencer Torkelson. Spencer Torkelson, a Homer in
57:15
five straight games. So round of applause for Spencer
57:19
Torkelson. Eldamaro Vargas has extended his
57:26
hitting streak to 24 games as of Tuesday.
57:28
Are they playing? They're playing tonight.
57:30
Has he extended it to 25? Do we know?
57:32
Can we get a check on that? Can we get a check on that?
57:34
Let's keep it going for the first.
57:35
Time clap it up though. Eldamaro Vargas, 24 games as of
57:41
Tuesday. If it's ended, what a good run.
57:43
If he extended it. Keep it going kid.
57:45
What's his? First name El Dorado El Demaro.
57:48
I'll. Demaro.
57:49
No, there's no G, my friend. G It's I'll.
57:52
It's I'll Demaro. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
57:56
Yeah. I heard El Demaro on the
57:57
broadcast, so I'm just going to go with El Demaro El Dorado.
58:02
Do we have a check? Is it at 25?
58:04
Is it at 25? Go on.
58:05
Once I'm checking good next one I'll I'll I'll hit you Gavin.
58:08
Williams Gavin Williams is one of two pitchers with 50
58:13
strikeouts this season. He's pitched to a a clip of two
58:16
an ERA with a clip of 27 OA WHIP of one O 2 and as I mentioned,
58:22
just racking up the strikeouts over the last three starts
58:25
alone, he's racked up 24. He's already got two games this
58:30
season of 1022, outings of seasons of 10 plus strikeouts.
58:37
One of those came against the Dodgers by the way, to start off
58:39
the month of April. So good for good for Gavin
58:42
Williams strike out machine. And lastly, KM Schlittler
58:52
pitching to a tune of 1/5, one with a WHIP of .7. 4.
58:58
Pitching exceptionally, pitching exceptionally well.
59:04
I, I can, I cannot tell a lie. He is in all but two starts, it
59:13
appears, has a minimum of seven strikeouts, and every outing all
59:20
but two. One of those two came against
59:23
the Red Sox. Because he can't pitch against
59:25
the Red Sox, I guess. I don't know.
59:26
I don't know what happened, no. He went 8 innings that game.
59:32
He shoved it up our butts. But yeah, pitching, pitching
59:35
very well. Next start is Monday against the
59:37
Orioles, so presumably we'll continue this streak of good
59:40
pitching for Cam Schiltler. So that is our credit cannon
59:45
segment. Vargas had two hits tonight.
59:48
Oh, let's go. El Dorado.
59:51
El Dorado 25 hit game, hit streak.
59:54
OK. Now the important the important
59:59
question. Yes, the question, the one we're
1:00:04
all here for. Mrae's Question of the Week.
1:00:08
Mrae's question of the week is Mount Rushmore road trip songs.
1:00:14
Now I know before we hopped on here, you're like, we need to
1:00:16
leave time for this because it's going to go forever.
1:00:19
While I agree with that, we need to do our best to not let this
1:00:22
go on forever because it's late and this this segment could go
1:00:29
on for hours if we wanted it to. So who wants to start?
1:00:34
I, I, I think I should because I have some caveats and you're not
1:00:39
going to know most of this. I don't do.
1:00:45
Song surprise you? OK, OK, I would love it if,
1:00:48
well, there's a few. No, there's a few that you'll
1:00:50
know for sure. But I I don't do songs.
1:00:53
I'm in albums guy. I will listen to full albums
1:00:57
every time. I do have most of these things
1:01:00
downloaded so when I hit when I go to my downloads and shuffle
1:01:04
all, they all come on. But some of my favorite albums
1:01:08
ever. How the lonely keep by terminal
1:01:12
forever phase is a new one by Paul Meany I'm I'm going the
1:01:17
ones that you probably don't know King is my life in your
1:01:20
way. Hold on Sir, are you doing like?
1:01:22
These are albums. These are albums because that's
1:01:25
how I do things. I'm not going to listen to
1:01:27
songs. That's fine, but there's four
1:01:29
just because. They're listening to records.
1:01:33
I listen to records now we have like 150 records.
1:01:40
So I'll give you some you might know.
1:01:42
I mean, I, I should shout out the 37 secret and whisper.
1:01:45
Oh. Yeah, shout him out.
1:01:47
Shout. Him out Acceptance, Anchor and
1:01:48
Braille songs for the late night drive home.
1:01:50
That's a good album. Pucks in deep.
1:01:52
Andrew Bell, Nightshade. Albert Bell.
1:01:55
Some that you've heard of Coldplay parachutes.
1:01:59
It's a very good sing along. Yellow with yellow on it, yeah.
1:02:03
Boom boom. Is this guy no ball or is this
1:02:05
guy no ball? No, I actually just threw out a
1:02:07
a a cool place I think. Jimmy World integrity, Blues.
1:02:12
Don't sleep on that album, Jimmy.
1:02:14
It's my favorite one. My favorite one story so far.
1:02:17
I want to disappear. The classic.
1:02:20
One of my top probably 5 albums, The Blue Album by Wee.
1:02:25
Hold on this. I got a big freaking mountain.
1:02:31
This no. The Mount Rushmore mountain is
1:02:34
huge and they still only put four faces on there.
1:02:37
I had to ask my daughter how many people were on Mount
1:02:41
Rushmore because I don't care. These are the albums I listen
1:02:45
to. Hold on, you didn't know how
1:02:46
many faces are on Mount Rushmore?
1:02:48
No, I mean, I knew it was. Four, He's been out.
1:02:51
But I but I say that because I don't care.
1:02:56
Hold on, JB. That's we're just going against
1:02:58
the spirit of the question. We're ignoring a perfect part of
1:03:03
this question. A very important part is road
1:03:08
trip. So are you alone in the car?
1:03:13
Are people with you in the car? Is it your family?
1:03:16
Is it friends? Because like, an important part
1:03:19
for me is I'm trying to find bangers that the whole car will
1:03:24
know, you know what I mean? Yeah, the whole point of it I.
1:03:30
Think the road trip is like I want to sing along with with my
1:03:35
crew. OK.
1:03:37
Yeah. But the second you open it up to
1:03:39
that layer of it, then the the, I feel like the, I'm not saying
1:03:47
deep cuts, but the deeper cuts are kind of out the window
1:03:51
because at that point you have to find crowd pleasers and a lot
1:03:54
of those are just mainstream. Like most of what I just said.
1:03:59
What? All deep cuts.
1:04:01
Yeah. Oh, I thought you were saying.
1:04:02
You know what I mean, crowd? Pleasers.
1:04:03
I was like my brother. He had a conversation about what
1:04:06
a crowd pleaser. Is like, I can play Buddy Holly
1:04:08
by Weezer and you're like, yeah, I know that you know what I'm
1:04:10
saying. But like outside of that, if I
1:04:14
if I throw on maps by terminal, you're going to be like, what is
1:04:16
this? Agreed, I do like that Weezer
1:04:19
album pulled out that's. Weezer song Weezer's.
1:04:22
That's one of my top five favorites.
1:04:23
All right, so JB gave 4 songs in the form of a dozen albums.
1:04:29
So, Nate, what do you got? I'm going to see if I can come
1:04:33
up with. 4 songs, by the way. No, that's your turn.
1:04:35
That's your turn. You you had your shot and you
1:04:38
intentionally went with albums. A dozen of them.
1:04:41
Yeah, this is, I mean, this is so hard, dude.
1:04:44
You want. Me to go.
1:04:45
Do you want me to go? Because it sounds like you got
1:04:47
to dwindle down a little bit. Did you did you barely get to 4
1:04:51
or what? I've got 5 look the the Mount
1:04:55
Rushmore prompt is great, but that there's a lot of pressure
1:04:59
that comes with that. Like I you can't hold me to this
1:05:02
list, but I would I would absolutely go to bat for any of
1:05:07
these songs. I don't think people are aware
1:05:09
of the fact that like I would spend a full day putting a a
1:05:15
playlist together for a specific road trip based on specific
1:05:19
people in the car. That's cool also.
1:05:22
Based on where we're going, that's a huge factor.
1:05:24
It is. You're not.
1:05:25
Playing beach music, going to the mountains, you know, like,
1:05:28
it's just not, you're not doing that.
1:05:30
It's hard to say, vice. Versa, I'm playing all these
1:05:33
albums no matter where I'm going.
1:05:37
All right, I'll go because it sounds like Nate's having
1:05:41
trouble deciding and that's fine because he came up with a hefty
1:05:44
list. First one for me.
1:05:47
This one absolutely would be on my Mount Rushmore.
1:05:50
Some of the others you maybe could be on or off depending
1:05:52
upon the day. This one absolutely dire straits
1:05:56
money for nothing. OK, solid, absolute banger and
1:06:01
it's been insane intro. It's been so cool to see the the
1:06:05
resurgence of this song on like trending audio on on like hype
1:06:09
reels and stuff. Just insane.
1:06:11
Insane intro. Another action I would say these
1:06:17
two are permanently on my on my Mount Rushmore road trip songs.
1:06:21
Alan Jackson Chattahoochee solid.
1:06:25
That's a that you want to talk about a banger.
1:06:28
That's a banger. JB's jumping out of the car
1:06:31
continue. Fine with me.
1:06:35
Sorry I missed it. I was I was trying to look up
1:06:37
this other song. So just suing Dire Straits?
1:06:41
I don't know. It's not playing.
1:06:43
Oh my, well, don't play it, I'm not trying to get flagged.
1:06:46
That ain't going. Another one for me, kind of a
1:06:54
kind of a sleeper pick, but so this might be one that could
1:06:57
fall off or on depending upon the day.
1:06:59
Yellow card Ocean Ave. solid yellow card is strong.
1:07:04
Yellow card very strong. Another one for me.
1:07:07
This is this is definitely like on the bottom end of the list,
1:07:11
but it's a great driving song because when I hear this song, I
1:07:14
think of the driving scene from Field of Dreams, Doobie
1:07:18
Brothers, China Grove. They they actually do, if I
1:07:23
recall correctly, they do, they do an overhead pan of the van
1:07:27
when they're driving to Fenway in Field of Dreams.
1:07:31
And it's so that just makes me inherently think of being on the
1:07:35
road. And it's a great, it's a great
1:07:38
bop for being on the road. Yeah.
1:07:40
And then a more recent 1 and I, I only put this on there.
1:07:45
I yeah, I have a hard time saying it's Mount Rushmore, but
1:07:49
it's a great driving song. Luke Combs ain't no love in
1:07:53
Oklahoma. That was like my, I think my top
1:07:55
played song of all of last year. Just a great, a great song.
1:08:00
It's a little more on the aggressive side, so you kind of
1:08:02
got to be in a certain mood. But I love Luke Combs.
1:08:05
But yeah, great, great driving song.
1:08:11
I don't know, man. But look, there's so many
1:08:13
different factors. I don't know who's in this car
1:08:15
with me. There's two songs that I it's
1:08:17
it's a lock for me more than a feeling from Boston.
1:08:22
I think is one of the greatest songs ever created.
1:08:27
Should have been a cowboy. Toby Keith that I played that at
1:08:31
my wedding and freaking sang my lungs out with everybody.
1:08:36
That was a blast. This is where things really get
1:08:43
difficult, man. Like, I don't, I don't know.
1:08:50
I guess I'll, I'm just going to go with my gut here.
1:08:53
I'm going to go higher Creed. Grace Song.
1:08:57
I mean, I feel like the whole car is just going to be jamming.
1:09:02
Oh, keep going, keep going. I I want to add.
1:09:07
I want to retroactively add to my list.
1:09:09
I feel like I'm, I kind of want to make sure I get a little bit
1:09:12
of everything. Man, I have so many honorable
1:09:17
mentions. I'm going to go ride with me,
1:09:25
Nelly. Oh, it's a good one.
1:09:28
That's going to, that's going to round it out for me.
1:09:31
I have a lot of honorable mentions though.
1:09:35
Should we run through autumn mentions?
1:09:36
You got autumn mentions. No, I'm this is one of I cannot
1:09:40
believe I forgot about this. This is going on my permanent
1:09:42
Mount Rushmore list, so I've got a couple of those already and
1:09:45
then my 4th 1 is just like a flex play where it's.
1:09:48
Just really what I'm feeling. I would say my third Mount
1:09:52
Rushmore road trip song. Phil Collins in the air tonight.
1:09:57
I mean, you got to hit the drums, you know, I.
1:09:58
Mean you and have you seen those things you can get for the car
1:10:01
vents that you can stick the little symbol, you stick it in
1:10:04
the the car vent, You just you nail it.
1:10:07
Oh man, what a dream. Can I just run through what else
1:10:14
I what else I wrote down? Yesterday.
1:10:17
It just it they fell short, they fell short, but.
1:10:19
No, we don't need a justification.
1:10:21
Just run through those. Trying to see how people feel
1:10:23
about it. I have Uptown from Drake and Lil
1:10:29
Wayne, which is I think the best Drake song out there where the
1:10:37
party at jagged edge and Nelly love that one big Nelly guy.
1:10:42
That's the only two return of the Mac Mac Morrison.
1:10:46
That's classic how you remind me, Nickelback, That one, that
1:10:54
one could hit too. That was where I was.
1:10:56
I was that with Creed. Oops.
1:10:58
That was a Flex 1. Oh, throw 1 and honorable
1:11:00
mention any man of mine. Shania Twain.
1:11:03
I don't care, guy gal, I've got. One I've got one that's a little
1:11:08
bit of. A.
1:11:09
That's a. Banger a little bit of a
1:11:10
questionable one as far as masculinity goes, but I've got
1:11:15
one for you JBI Feel like you should like this or your head
1:11:19
banging brother would. We've got no more tears from
1:11:22
Ozzy Osbourne that that is a banger.
1:11:27
Fat bottom girls Queen Regulate Warren G and Nate Dogg.
1:11:34
I mean. Got to be handed about it, if
1:11:36
you know what I mean. Got her kiss.
1:11:40
Oh baby. And then my very questionable
1:11:45
one would be drops of Jupiter by train I think.
1:11:47
That's a great there's a good song.
1:11:49
That's a great song. Just going to let it RIP on that
1:11:51
one. So yeah.
1:11:53
All right, so little. Can't you begin?
1:11:57
Monday night went to the Pirates game.
1:11:58
It's a 3 hour drive. Four of us guys went, me and
1:12:01
three buddies. On the way home we did a thing
1:12:04
where we just went clockwise. Everybody picks a song and used
1:12:09
the best. That's the best.
1:12:11
So I guess if you play that game.
1:12:13
I picked Teske Brothers Hold Me. I picked Drive by Incubus.
1:12:21
Nice. I picked Jason by the midnight.
1:12:25
Don't know that one. I picked We Never Change
1:12:29
Coldplay, which is off of off of that album.
1:12:32
I picked Africa, the cover by Weezer.
1:12:36
Better than the original in my opinion.
1:12:40
And yeah, so I there were some songs there.
1:12:45
Walking on a dream empire in the Empire of the Sun.
1:12:49
Walking on a dream. And then I close it out on my
1:12:54
street with closing time semisonic.
1:12:56
That's a good one, very good closing.
1:12:59
Time. Nice, hit it.
1:13:03
So I yeah, but if I'm picking the jams, we're just doing
1:13:08
straight albums and but there's some good, there's some good
1:13:12
tunes. Buddy Holly, Incubus, Dr. I
1:13:14
would probably put Jimmy World I.
1:13:16
Know who I want to Take Me Home? Yeah.
1:13:22
Oh, I just got a trading fantasy.
1:13:24
That's great. I'd probably put Jimmy World the
1:13:28
middle on A on A. I had a couple of those Tesky
1:13:32
Brothers songs that you enjoyed. You in Houston?
1:13:35
Yeah. Oh, that's right.
1:13:36
We, yeah, we listened in Houston.
1:13:37
Yeah, yeah, it's good stuff. Some good bops.
1:13:42
So obviously like being that I was like in a band and all that
1:13:46
stuff, like there's the deep cuts run pretty deep, you know
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what I mean? Because I got some, I got some
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songs I listen to of like bands that I was friends with, you
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know what I mean? See, I don't have a ton of deep
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cuts, but I have a very wide variety of bangers.
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I can. I can pretty much cross into any
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genre with bangers. Deep cuts.
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Depends. Depends.
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No Third Eye Blind made it. Like Third Eye Blind.
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Real quick, let's close with this sort of related, if you
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have one, what's this song that you're playing if you're trying
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to hit 100 on the freeway trying to evade the cops?
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Not that I would not that I would.
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I would recommend that or or say that I'm I'm a.
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Hundredths light work. Proponent of that, yeah, it's
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true. You're hitting that like in your
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Back Rd. neighborhood. Not anymore.
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The challenger, maybe. This guy doesn't stop.
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It stops. It's crazy.
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I, I already think I said, I mean it's I had to drive fast
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playlist when I had my Challenger, it was just
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specifically for speeding. So it was 2 Ozzy Osbourne songs.
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I got to say it's either it's either No More Tears or Perry
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Mason. Those are the 2.
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Yeah, I got to go with, I got to go with Vania, Strength of Heart
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or Advent Revival. It's got to be one of those two
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and those two. You know you love them.
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I don't know which one's the artist and which one's the song.
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Advent's the Artist Song Revival and then Vania is the band.
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Strength of Heart is the song. Do you have the rights to your
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music? Totally.
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Yeah, Yeah, absolutely. I can.
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I can play that right now. There is no copyright
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infringement on that. Can we just can we just use that
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as like the intro song now mine closing out with mine mine you
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you want to get me to go 200 miles an hour on the freeway?
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You just queue up ACDC shoot to thrill and it's game over.
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That's that's cars probably going to be crashed by the end
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of it, but it'll be a good time. When we hit record to end this
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thing, I'm going to play you Revival by Advent.
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Perfect. No, you're not 'cause I got to
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go to bed. Nate will hear.
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It. I'm just kidding.
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All right, that'll do it. Good chat tonight.
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We'll see you guys. Oh, no.
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Nate and JB. We'll see you guys.
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Sunday. Different time, I think. 3:00
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Eastern Sunday Clubhouse Keep an eye out for the boys.
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They'll be watching ball, talking ball, doing all things
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so. Yep.
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Maybe we bring Jake back. Yeah, no, he's, he said.
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He's working. Oh yeah, he said.
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He's he's probably out. Yeah, all good.
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Just you and me then. We'll see what I'm doing.
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Maybe I can make a cameo. Let's just get flagged by
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YouTube. Just play songs.
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Yeah, that'll do it, JB. Yeah, despite what some towns
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think right now, wanting this season to be over.
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Go baseball. Both teams that this guy roots
1:17:28
for, it's great. Could you imagine?
1:17:33
Could you imagine my guy Alex Cora leading Bryce Harper to the
1:17:38
promised land? What a dream.
1:17:40
What a dream. Well, whether you're awake or
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you're dreaming, don't go chasing curveballs, love.
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You on is always looking forward to talking more baseball with
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you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.