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Missing mom Bellamy Gamboa, hear desperate 911 call; Where is Mollie Tibbetts? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on Serious x Him Triumph.
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Speaker 1: A beautiful young mom goes missing and now the worst.
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Speaker 1: Bellamy Gamboa has been the subject um much controversy swirling
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Speaker 1: around her disappearance. At this hour, still no indication of
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Speaker 1: where is Bellamy Gamboa, but in the last hours stunning
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Speaker 1: developments take place. I Dancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. With me, Lee Egan,
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Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, Joseph Scott Morgan, forensics
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Speaker 1: expert and author of Blood Beneath My Feet, Kathleen Murphy,
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Speaker 1: high profile North Carolina lawyer, and special guests joining me
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Speaker 1: right now. Bellamyte Gambo's sister, Sharise Gamboa, Seris, thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for being with us. I know that this
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Speaker 1: entire ordeal has been devastating to your family. Serise, tell
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Speaker 1: me what led up to Bellamy's disappearance. Let's start with
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Speaker 1: how did you discover bellamyte was missing? Well, I live
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Speaker 1: here in Orange County, California, and I was in Monday.
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Speaker 1: I mean it was a Monday evening, maybe about five
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Speaker 1: pm my a Pacific time, and my father was calling
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Speaker 1: me and I happened to be walking my my dog.
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Speaker 1: I did not bring both of my cellphones with me
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Speaker 1: UM that evening. I don't know why, but I came
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Speaker 1: back to my apartment and both phones were just blowing
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Speaker 1: up with family members calling me asking me my So
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Speaker 1: I finally picked up my father's Paul and he asked
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Speaker 1: me when the last time I spoke to Bellamy, And
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Speaker 1: I said, well, verbally, I mean was like Mother's Day. Sadly,
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Speaker 1: because of the way we are social life by texts
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Speaker 1: and social media, UM, I told him the last time
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Speaker 1: we actually texted each other with Friday, and then Sunday
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Speaker 1: we were on Instagram. So you were in touch by
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Speaker 1: texting and Instagram, you know. I'm I'm very often the
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Speaker 1: same way with my sister. She's um, a college professor,
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Speaker 1: and she works a lot of hours. She's got two kids.
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Speaker 1: I have two children and work, and a lot of
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Speaker 1: times the only way we can really talk is by
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Speaker 1: texting because she's on a three hour time difference than me.
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Speaker 1: I know what you mean. So when your father called
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Speaker 1: you and asked you was the last time you talked
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Speaker 1: to her, did you have any indication that there was
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Speaker 1: anything wrong? The minute he said she could not show
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Speaker 1: up to work today and text the two teens. My
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Speaker 1: my heart dropped. I think I unfortunately already felt something
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Speaker 1: was long. We are getting breaking news regarding the disappearance
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Speaker 1: of Bellamy Gamboa, Lee Egan, Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter.
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Speaker 1: I want to hear about the day she goes missing.
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Speaker 1: I think we identified that it was around Sunday, between
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Speaker 1: a Sunday and a Monday, and I found very, very
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Speaker 1: peculiar the location where her vehicle was found. What can
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Speaker 1: you tell me about that? When I see her vehicle
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Speaker 1: was found in an apartment complex around four miles away
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Speaker 1: from our residence in Virginia Beach. But the issue is,
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Speaker 1: she would never go to this place. She's never been
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Speaker 1: there before. There will be no reason for her car
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Speaker 1: to be there. And it was parked in a way
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Speaker 1: where it was in front of a dumpster where the
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Speaker 1: workers could not get in and into the track, and
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Speaker 1: it wasn't moved for hours and they had to call
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Speaker 1: and had it actually towed from there into an impound. Okay,
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Speaker 1: we're talking about missing Bellamy Gamboa, a young and absolutely
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Speaker 1: stunning young mom. SuRie's question, do you did the family
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Speaker 1: know throughout her relationship with her boyfriend Lamont Johnson. Did
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Speaker 1: the family know that he was beating her? Huh? We
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Speaker 1: were not given that information directly from her. We did
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Speaker 1: hear it through certain family members, and you know, we
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Speaker 1: as her family, reached out to her and we would
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Speaker 1: encourage her and asked her to leave unhealthy situations. But
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Speaker 1: we didn't see her, you know, hear any proof. And
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Speaker 1: if we did, of course we would do anything in
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Speaker 1: our power to just get her out of there and
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Speaker 1: get her out of the situation. But with the twins off,
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Speaker 1: it's what she wouldn't bludge because the twins, So you
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Speaker 1: knew about it. Did you personally talk to her about
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Speaker 1: the domestic abuse? Knowing my sister when she would refer
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Speaker 1: to Lamont, there were times when they were out having
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Speaker 1: dinner together or just even out going to a movie
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Speaker 1: and she would let me know that, but not necessarily
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Speaker 1: anything that was about abuse. And um she did, however,
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Speaker 1: and for me last May of two seventeen about how
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Speaker 1: his family was treating her and how they did um
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Speaker 1: take the twins from her? I think for about a month.
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Speaker 1: I've got a question for you, So yes, you did
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Speaker 1: or did not know I'm not clear on this that
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Speaker 1: she was getting bait in the home. I did not know. Okay,
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Speaker 1: did anybody in your family know, not immediate family, but relatives? Yes,
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Speaker 1: how did they know? She told them? Okay did they
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Speaker 1: tell you? Guys? They didn't, um, not until after the fact.
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Speaker 1: And her children, her daughter, um and her and her
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Speaker 1: teens actually you know, saw bruises on her, and my
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Speaker 1: sister would of course make excuses about them. You know,
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Speaker 1: I have worked at the Battered Women's Center for nearly
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Speaker 1: ten years as a volunteer on the hotline when I
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Speaker 1: would be prosecuting during the day, and I learned so much,
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Speaker 1: especially how very often women keep it a secret. But
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Speaker 1: I know one person knew about it, and that was
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Speaker 1: the operator, the nine one one operator that took this call. Listen,
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Speaker 1: I love one where the emergency. I'll be okay, I'll
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Speaker 1: be all right, We're gonna we're gonna get you some help.
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Speaker 1: What happened? Where are you? Thanks? Are you saying you
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Speaker 1: were at work? Right? Yeah? Okay? What happened? Who did
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Speaker 1: this guy to a fight? That's all? But it's all right.
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Speaker 1: They they got into your broken balls? Okay, who got
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Speaker 1: into a fight? Who fought with was my twins. So
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Speaker 1: it's okay. He beat you. No, he you he fought you,
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Speaker 1: you know. He then he touched my face. He but
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Speaker 1: he he did hit you. Are you injured? No, I'm okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm all right. But that that he did hit you,
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Speaker 1: I mean not cell but I'll be okay. Man. That
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Speaker 1: was our first fight on and he he said he
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Speaker 1: you said he took your child when you're twined together.
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Speaker 1: So he so he took two children. Who's not going
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Speaker 1: anywhere with them? Wait here, elain, if they have to
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Speaker 1: show up, okay, Yeah, they're gonna come and speak with
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Speaker 1: you and make sure you're okay. Where did where did
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Speaker 1: you damn the bothering me? Okay? Is he sitting in
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Speaker 1: the in the house with you? Yes? Okay, okay, can
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Speaker 1: you repeat? Can you tell me your address for verification purposes? Okay?
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Speaker 1: If there are is there a specific apartment number? No? Okay,
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Speaker 1: so what can you just repeat the address for me? Please?
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Speaker 1: Can you just tell me the address where you're at
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Speaker 1: one more time for verification? No, little just get worse
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Speaker 1: if you don't want to tell me it again. No,
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Speaker 1: I don't want the goods anywhere and then you're gonna
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Speaker 1: be looking for him, and then it's just gonna get worse.
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Speaker 1: And I already have okay with his kids, and I
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Speaker 1: don't mean just I just had them, so I don't
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Speaker 1: even want to go through this. It was a great
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Speaker 1: question that I asked him. Then he got upset and
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Speaker 1: he started to a big fight and he's pretty big,
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Speaker 1: So okay, what does he look like to be white? Black? Hispanic,
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Speaker 1: asion black and big? Okay? What's you wearing? What? You
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Speaker 1: can't call it? They already heard you can't take them?
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Speaker 1: Where are you going? You can't take them. They're gonna
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Speaker 1: make you win them that you can't do that. You're
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Speaker 1: not what what's your name? You said your name is? Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: I don't hear ma'am. They're here. Okay, I'm gonna go
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Speaker 1: ahead and speak. Okay. I have to tell you that
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Speaker 1: as I was listening to Bellamy crying and sobbing on
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Speaker 1: the phone, I physically found myself cringing my body. It's
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Speaker 1: just cringing as I listened, and it took me back
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Speaker 1: to the days in court when I would have to
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Speaker 1: play not when one calls in front of a jury
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Speaker 1: and they would hear in the moment, the anguish and
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Speaker 1: the suffering that was happening at that moment, and now
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Speaker 1: Bellamy is gone. You heard her on the phone at
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Speaker 1: the time her ex was taking away the twins, the
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Speaker 1: infant twins, then infant twins, and the anguish in her voice.
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Speaker 1: Nothing was done. Nothing, And now she's gone. Why why
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Speaker 1: we're looking for her body? And in my mind, this
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Speaker 1: entire scenario, this domino effect of domestic beatings ending in
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Speaker 1: what I believe to be her murder, could have been
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Speaker 1: stopped with me. Dr Judith Joseph, renowned New York psychiatrist.
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Speaker 1: Dr Judah, thank you for being with us in a nutshell.
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Speaker 1: And I know that's hard to do. I I read
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Speaker 1: about it, I took classes on it, I dealt with
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Speaker 1: it on a hotline. But why is it moms don't
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Speaker 1: leave when they're being beaten? Do they think it's going
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Speaker 1: to get better? Nancy? This that phone call was terrifying.
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Speaker 1: I mean when I listened to it, I got chills.
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Speaker 1: And and typically from what I understand about domestic violence
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Speaker 1: is that it is a cycle. And she sounded terrified.
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Speaker 1: I was terrified for her, and fair is extremely crippling.
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Speaker 1: And when someone is threatening to rip apart a mother
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Speaker 1: and her child. That is torture. It may not be
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Speaker 1: physically painful, but it is emotionally abusive. And mothers will
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Speaker 1: do anything for their children. You've seen the Mama Bear,
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Speaker 1: You've seen the Mama Lion. They will do anything to
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Speaker 1: stay attached to their children. And she was trying to
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Speaker 1: be there for her children. And that's you know, I
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Speaker 1: haven't treated her, han't met her. However, I've seen a
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Speaker 1: lot of cases like this, and you know, it's very
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Speaker 1: tempting to think, well, why didn't she leave, Why didn't
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Speaker 1: she just run away? Why did the family do something?
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Speaker 1: Because those children are there and it's not as straightforward
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Speaker 1: as one might think. So I think that she was
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Speaker 1: being abused on both a physical level and an emotional level.
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Speaker 1: And one would argue that the emotional abuse that threat
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Speaker 1: to tear a part of mother from her twins, from
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Speaker 1: her babies, that's more painful than any physical abuse that
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Speaker 1: one can suffer well. And also to Joseph Scott Morgan
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Speaker 1: forensics expert, Professor of Forensics at Jacksonville State University, death
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Speaker 1: investigator and author Joe Scott, she would be covered in bruises,
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Speaker 1: her her children saw it or the other she got
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Speaker 1: uh teenage children as well. They saw it. They saw
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Speaker 1: bruises all over mommy. And you heard her on the
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Speaker 1: nine one one. I fail b s. She did not fall.
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Speaker 1: He beat her. And now I'm telling you, I don't
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Speaker 1: know where her body is, but she's dead and I'm
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Speaker 1: telling you he did it. Yeah, I'd agree with you, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: It's so calm. Yeah, I agree with the woman has
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Speaker 1: been beaten for God only knows how long because she
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Speaker 1: didn't tell her family, her children, the teen saw bruises,
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Speaker 1: but nobody knew. Now she's quote missing, missing, She's dead,
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott. And this whole thing could have been stopped
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Speaker 1: if she had been convinced to leave that home. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is not something that just happened in a vacuum,
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Speaker 1: just in a moment. I think that it was probably
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Speaker 1: going on for some time. Go back to the one call.
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Speaker 1: You heard her, uh in fear and terror on that line.
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Speaker 1: And you know what was absent in there, Nancy, is
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Speaker 1: that in this heated moment. Uh, this guy was not
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Speaker 1: backing down, but he wasn't saying anything either. Can you
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Speaker 1: imagine him scowling at her across the room, maybe mouthing
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Speaker 1: words at her, threatening her, and she's terrified. She wouldn't
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Speaker 1: even she she didn't even want to go back and
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Speaker 1: give the address where she was he had plan. It'll
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Speaker 1: just make it worse. It'll just get worse. Address, It'll
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Speaker 1: just get worse. Yeah, and you know he's he's shaking
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Speaker 1: proverbial fist in her face. And you don't have to
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Speaker 1: do that verbally, do you. You know he can do
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Speaker 1: this in nonverbal, nonverbally. And this has been going on
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Speaker 1: for a while. She knew what was going on here,
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Speaker 1: and it's terrifying. And yeah, I agree with you. I
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Speaker 1: think making me sick. Joe Scott with me right now.
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Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, renowned lawyer. Kathleen, just tell me one thing,
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Speaker 1: one thing, And this is a truth that I don't
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Speaker 1: like the truth many of them, this is one of them.
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Speaker 1: Domestic homicides get pled down to me and slaughter. They
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Speaker 1: get led down to voluntary or even involuntary manslaughter. The
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Speaker 1: person might might get seven years and they'll walk in
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Speaker 1: about five. Why is it that so often domestic abuse,
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Speaker 1: which I consider to be murder, is plied down and
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Speaker 1: the person gets a light sentence. Why is that, Kathleen.
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Speaker 1: They're not taking it seriously, and that is a big
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Speaker 1: problem because in family court, I have a case that's
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Speaker 1: coming up now, and my client is clearly terrified of
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Speaker 1: her husband, and you want the court to consider factors
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Speaker 1: of domestic violence because this guy was using these building
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Speaker 1: against this mother, and that happens every day. It is
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Speaker 1: the leverage, and so the victim does not participate in
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Speaker 1: the process because of these children. And the law needs
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Speaker 1: to change and allow parents who are victims of domestic
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Speaker 1: violence to keep their children safe and secure. And that
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Speaker 1: is not Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina lawyer. Let me tell
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Speaker 1: you a little story. I had just managed to fight
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Speaker 1: my way out of juvenile which you know, in juvenile
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Speaker 1: court there's not juries, you don't have rules of evidence.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of like you try a case with a
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Speaker 1: kind of a judge and as psychologist or a therapist.
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Speaker 1: Somebody's in there and the parents. It's kind of like
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Speaker 1: y'all sit around and you figure out what's the best
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Speaker 1: thing for the purp okay because they're a juvenile Okay.
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Speaker 1: I got out of that and I made it to
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Speaker 1: quote big court, and uh, I had one of my
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Speaker 1: first aramic calendar is a hundred and fifty new felonies.
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Speaker 1: We're in a big court now and I saw a
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Speaker 1: woman from the side of my my eyes walked in
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Speaker 1: with crutches. Crutches, Kathleen. She came in with her husband
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Speaker 1: begging me to drop charges. She had a broken leg, Kathleen,
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Speaker 1: a broken leg. And I did not know what was right.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know what was wrong. She was begging me
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Speaker 1: to drop charges. Kathleen. I couldn't do it. I could
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Speaker 1: not do it. I said, listen, I know you want
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Speaker 1: to drop charges. And I'll look right at the husband said,
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Speaker 1: but I'm the one bringing these charges, not you. So
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Speaker 1: it's not your fault. It's my fault. And oh, I'll
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Speaker 1: never forget. It's giving me chills on my arms remembering
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Speaker 1: it when I hear this nine one one call. Let
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Speaker 1: me just get to the point, Lee Egan, Crime Online
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Speaker 1: dot Com investigative reporter. What is the latest in the
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Speaker 1: search Rebellamy Gamboa, Well, so far they are searching the
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Speaker 1: Apparently the ex boyfriend's name is Lamont Johnson. He told
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Speaker 1: them that he put her in the Chesapeake area. He
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Speaker 1: didn't say exactly where, just let's be specifically, he did
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Speaker 1: not say he quote put her in the Chesapeake area.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about what he actually said. That he pushed
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Speaker 1: Gamboa down the stairs. Wow, that's eerily reminiscent of her
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Speaker 1: nine on one call where she says she fell, pushed
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Speaker 1: her down the stairs, quote fell on top of on
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Speaker 1: top of her. That is a lie, not fall on
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Speaker 1: top of her and then choked her until she died.
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Speaker 1: Documents that we have just obtained say he then put
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Speaker 1: her in a bag and brought her to Chesapeake. Is
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Speaker 1: that a little more like what he Saidly now that
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Speaker 1: he put her in the bag, like he gently laid
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Speaker 1: her there for her to float on her back for
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Speaker 1: a while. That is absolutely exactly what he said. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I want to hear the truth. I don't want some sugarcoated,
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Speaker 1: air brushed version of what happened. Now, what happened? He
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Speaker 1: killed her? He exactly what you said. He claims that
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Speaker 1: he fell on top of her. I don't see how
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Speaker 1: he can just fall on top of her. He began
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Speaker 1: strangling her until she died, and then he put her
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Speaker 1: in a bag and dumped her body. Lee, I'm not
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Speaker 1: angry at you, That's not it. I used to do
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Speaker 1: the same thing. You sugarcoat it because it hurts, it
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Speaker 1: actually taste bad in your mouth to actually say what
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Speaker 1: was done to this beautiful young mom. And now with
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Speaker 1: me is Bellamy's sister, Charise Cherie. He has just been
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Speaker 1: charged with learning with second degree murder and four counts
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Speaker 1: of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Sure, he's
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Speaker 1: gambo with me, the sister of Bellamy. Tell me your
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Speaker 1: reaction to what you are learning about the hell your
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Speaker 1: sister was living through just unending, an underending nightmare. I
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Speaker 1: cry for help and I wish that I was in
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Speaker 1: Virginia every day now. So do not blame yourself. Don't
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Speaker 1: because very often the family, the sister of the parents,
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Speaker 1: they don't know because the woman doesn't tell them because
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Speaker 1: she's either a shamed or embarrassed doesn't want the children
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Speaker 1: to be taken away. And you, you live on the
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Speaker 1: other side of the country. There is no way she
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Speaker 1: was telling you, and there was no way you could
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Speaker 1: have known. It's all about five her body now, enter
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Speaker 1: of those children, guys. Uh. Cherie has given me an
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Speaker 1: updated tipline if you have any information, if you saw
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Speaker 1: anything that number is seven five seven three eight five
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Speaker 1: zero one repeat seven five seven three eight five four
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Speaker 1: one zero one. We will not rest until her remains
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Speaker 1: have been found and this man is behind bars for life.
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Speaker 1: can't give up Hope. I mean, I know if if
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Speaker 1: it were me that we're missing Molly wouldn't give up Hope. Young, healthy, beautiful,
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Speaker 1: a college student loved by her family and boyfriend, the
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Speaker 1: world in front of her missing. Where is Molly Tibbitts.
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Speaker 1: The search is on. I mean, I see, Grace. This
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Speaker 1: is crime Stories. Thank you for being with us now.
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Speaker 1: It had been put out there that Molly vanished while jogging,
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Speaker 1: and I picked the evidence apart along with her awesome
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Speaker 1: investigative team, and it didn't seem right to me. It
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Speaker 1: was not conclusive that she was taken while jogging. I
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Speaker 1: could not establish the timeline, and we all know that's
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Speaker 1: where you start with any investigation. The timeline was off
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Speaker 1: in my mind, it didn't make sense. And now we
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Speaker 1: are hearing the very latest is that the missing University
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Speaker 1: of Iowa student, just twenty years old, actually returned to
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Speaker 1: her boyfriend's house after the jog and she sent the
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Speaker 1: boyfriend a final snapchat before she mysteriously disappears seemingly into
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Speaker 1: thin air. And this is according to the FBI. Now,
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Speaker 1: this is making sense based on the facts that we know.
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Speaker 1: Repeat breaking news right now. According to the FBI, they
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Speaker 1: are telling us Molly did not go missing from a jog,
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Speaker 1: and that's a fatal flaw. That's a fatal flaw. Because
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Speaker 1: for days now we've been taking that as truth and
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Speaker 1: that has been the basis of the investigation. That's not
24:16
Speaker 1: what happened. She was back in the boyfriend's home. Now,
24:21
Speaker 1: before you leap to the idea was the boyfriend, which
24:25
Speaker 1: I did too, because statistically that's true, it was not
24:28
Speaker 1: the boyfriend. The boyfriend is cleared. He was working a
24:33
Speaker 1: couple of hours away in Dubuque. He wasn't there. It's
24:37
Speaker 1: not him. So that leads me with thinking of a
24:41
Speaker 1: stranger on stranger attack. Mmmmm mmmmm. Let's just go straight
24:47
Speaker 1: out to Lee Egan. With me is Lee Egan, Crime
24:51
Speaker 1: online dot Com, investigative reporter for Now New York, Psychologist
24:54
Speaker 1: Karen Stark, judge and advocate, founder of child time watch
25:00
Speaker 1: dot com, Ashley Willcott, and cop turned p I Vincent Hill.
25:05
Speaker 1: Special guests joining me right now, relative and close friend
25:09
Speaker 1: confidante of Molly Morgan column Lee Hold on a moment,
25:14
Speaker 1: I want to go to Morgan Morgan. First of all,
25:17
Speaker 1: please pass on to the family about all the prayers
25:20
Speaker 1: that are being sent up to bring Molly home. Number one.
25:26
Speaker 1: Number two, when did you learn Molly was missing? I
25:29
Speaker 1: learned that she was missing, uh Thursday July. I had
25:34
Speaker 1: gone to a movie with my cousin Joe and my
25:37
Speaker 1: cousin Jake, who is Molly's older brother, And I had
25:42
Speaker 1: received the text message from my stepsister who works with UM.
25:49
Speaker 1: One of her best friends works with Molly, and she
25:52
Speaker 1: had sent me a text prior to the movie starting
25:55
Speaker 1: asking if I had heard from Molly that day because
25:57
Speaker 1: she didn't show up her work. She works at a
26:00
Speaker 1: a day camp for children in Grinnell, Iowa. And I
26:04
Speaker 1: did think that was odd. It's out of character for
26:07
Speaker 1: her to simply not show up for work without a
26:10
Speaker 1: phone call or a reason why. You know, that's interesting, Morgan,
26:13
Speaker 1: and you may be able to show some wine on
26:15
Speaker 1: this for me, because I was told that the day
26:20
Speaker 1: before she went missing, the work day before she went missing,
26:24
Speaker 1: the counselors at the camp or the daycare had been
26:28
Speaker 1: handed out some red T shirts they were to wear
26:31
Speaker 1: the next day they were going on a field trip,
26:33
Speaker 1: I think, and Molly's red T shirt could not be found.
26:38
Speaker 1: Is that true? Yeah, we have looked at the house
26:43
Speaker 1: where she was staying, where her boyfriend lives, and then
26:46
Speaker 1: we had also checked her house UM that her mom
26:49
Speaker 1: owns where she lives, you know, with her siblings, because
26:51
Speaker 1: she kind of bounces back and forth to both places.
26:54
Speaker 1: And we checked in the vehicle that she shares with
26:58
Speaker 1: her brother, and we cannot find See. The reason I
27:01
Speaker 1: care about the shirt, Morgan guys with me is relative
27:06
Speaker 1: and confidante, close friend of Molly tibbitts now missing, and
27:12
Speaker 1: I can only imagine what our families going through. I
27:14
Speaker 1: don't even want to put this out there if one
27:17
Speaker 1: of my twins was missing, I just as I always say,
27:20
Speaker 1: just lay me on the railroad tracks, because I don't
27:23
Speaker 1: even want to live without them. I know her family
27:26
Speaker 1: is devastated. Right now, there's a chance we can bring
27:30
Speaker 1: Molly home. And I'm focusing on this red T shirt
27:33
Speaker 1: for a reason because it goes back to the timeline.
27:37
Speaker 1: She was supposed to wear that the following morning, if
27:40
Speaker 1: she was if she disappeared the night before, it should
27:43
Speaker 1: still be somewhere in her closet, laid out to where
27:47
Speaker 1: the next day, folded up in a stack in the bathroom,
27:50
Speaker 1: somewhere in her backpack in her car. We can't find it.
27:54
Speaker 1: That says to me that she may have been alive
27:59
Speaker 1: the following more and had put it on to go
28:02
Speaker 1: to work when something went sideways. That's why I care
28:06
Speaker 1: about her red tshirt? Morgan. Is this making any sense
28:10
Speaker 1: at all what I'm saying? Yeah, it does. H You know,
28:13
Speaker 1: my family and I have rattled our brains trying to
28:16
Speaker 1: think of what the timeline could be, what could have
28:19
Speaker 1: possibly happened. And you know, for the longest time we
28:22
Speaker 1: had told ourselves, oh, that's out of the norm for Molly,
28:24
Speaker 1: she wouldn't do anything like that. And we had to
28:27
Speaker 1: stop thinking that way because, you know, we we just
28:31
Speaker 1: need to be open to different possibilities of what could
28:34
Speaker 1: have happened. And it's difficult, but but I understand the
28:39
Speaker 1: red shirt. You mean she wouldn't just disappear on her own.
28:43
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? Right? Absolutely, we did not
28:47
Speaker 1: think that she would have ever done something like that,
28:50
Speaker 1: so that that really didn't even cress our minds. We
28:53
Speaker 1: were just more so thinking, you know, what routes did
28:57
Speaker 1: she run that evening? Who saw her, you know, with
29:01
Speaker 1: the house unloft, just various things like that. Let me
29:05
Speaker 1: ask you this. We know now that she did jog
29:07
Speaker 1: that evening and apparently came back to the boyfriend's house
29:12
Speaker 1: where she was dog sitting. Do I have that much right, right, Okay,
29:17
Speaker 1: do we have any idea what time that was she
29:19
Speaker 1: came back to the house. I'm not sure. Um, she
29:22
Speaker 1: usually does a pretty lengthy run, so my guess is
29:27
Speaker 1: it would have taken her possibly over a half hour
29:31
Speaker 1: to maybe forty minutes. But she the kind of person
29:34
Speaker 1: like to run in the evening. I used to love
29:36
Speaker 1: to run at night after work, you know, just before
29:39
Speaker 1: it was getting darker, after it was dark then, you know,
29:43
Speaker 1: once I had the twins, I have to get up
29:44
Speaker 1: first thing in the morning, before they're awake and do
29:47
Speaker 1: whatever I'm gonna do, because once they're awake, it sits,
29:50
Speaker 1: you know, full on with them. So was she a
29:55
Speaker 1: nighttime runner or an evening runner? Morgan? Yes, I would say, um,
30:00
Speaker 1: right before the sun was about to set, which here
30:04
Speaker 1: for us, but you know, right around that six seven
30:06
Speaker 1: o'clock time frame that she likes to go. Um, and
30:11
Speaker 1: then typically she'll eat supper after she's done having her run. Yeah. Yeah,
30:16
Speaker 1: nobody wants to run after they ate, not that i've anyway.
30:19
Speaker 1: So let me get this straight. The reason I'm asking
30:22
Speaker 1: him back on the timeline. I hate to be a harpie,
30:25
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to figure this thing out. So if
30:27
Speaker 1: she runs in the evening, was there any evidence that
30:30
Speaker 1: she had had dinner supper that night? I drive through, receipt,
30:34
Speaker 1: use of an a T m uh, evidence she cooked
30:38
Speaker 1: in the home, anything like that, show me she had
30:40
Speaker 1: dinner after she ran. No, not that we're aware of. Um.
30:44
Speaker 1: The interesting comment that I have to make about that,
30:47
Speaker 1: she had actually been in texting conversation with my aunt Laura,
30:51
Speaker 1: who's Molly's mother, and Molly had shared with my aunt
30:56
Speaker 1: that she had planned to come over her supper that night,
30:59
Speaker 1: and she didn't end up coming over for supper, which
31:02
Speaker 1: concerned me. But my aunt had said that that's not
31:06
Speaker 1: out of the norm for Molly to say she's going
31:09
Speaker 1: to come over for supper and then not come over
31:12
Speaker 1: for supper. Um. So as far as did she eat anything,
31:16
Speaker 1: what did she eat? I'm not sure yea. And the
31:18
Speaker 1: only reason I asked is if there's evidence that she had,
31:21
Speaker 1: you know, made a sandwich or cooked something and there
31:25
Speaker 1: was trash in the trash coming she was the one
31:27
Speaker 1: living there while the boyfriend was out of town, And
31:31
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering. Don't don't laugh at me, Vincent Hill.
31:35
Speaker 1: You remember very often they still do it in the tabloids,
31:39
Speaker 1: you know, the inquirer of the Globe, the Star. They'll
31:41
Speaker 1: go through celebrities trash and they'll like lay it all
31:45
Speaker 1: out and then take a picture of it, and they'll
31:47
Speaker 1: say something like, oh, look, you know Liz Taylor had
31:50
Speaker 1: six buckets of ice cream just two days. Things like that.
31:54
Speaker 1: All right, So what I'm saying is, but then fast forward.
31:58
Speaker 1: I remember me. Anytimes you see on TV, you look
32:01
Speaker 1: at you catch and window, there's the FBI picking through
32:03
Speaker 1: your trash. That's not a good thing. It's for a
32:06
Speaker 1: reason because it shows you something. I wonder if the
32:09
Speaker 1: cops looked in the trash to see did she make
32:14
Speaker 1: a Link cuisine or Anny's bowl or whatever, because that's
32:17
Speaker 1: helping me with my timeline. Vincent, Nancy, You're absolutely right.
32:21
Speaker 1: I mean, when I was working in narcotics, we would
32:24
Speaker 1: do what was known as a trash bull to look
32:26
Speaker 1: for things that led to the belief that there was
32:30
Speaker 1: a narcotics So when you're looking at a missing person,
32:32
Speaker 1: you do want to look at these things like, hey,
32:34
Speaker 1: did she recently eat? Is there a receipt? Is there
32:37
Speaker 1: a box from a frozen meal? Is there addition that sink.
32:41
Speaker 1: You want to look at all of these things to
32:44
Speaker 1: establish some type of timeline. And if there was no
32:47
Speaker 1: forced entry inside that home, which we haven't heard any window,
32:51
Speaker 1: that makes you question big time. Was it someone she knew?
32:55
Speaker 1: Was the door unlocked, that she answered the door? Maybe
32:57
Speaker 1: she ordered the pizza and we don't know the answer.
33:00
Speaker 1: There so many questions. Did she typically use her cell phone, Morgan?
33:03
Speaker 1: Or would she? Would she have used a landline? She
33:05
Speaker 1: would have used her cell phone? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:08
Speaker 1: The other day, Morgan, my twins are tim the landline
33:13
Speaker 1: rang and they said, what's that? As the children, that's
33:17
Speaker 1: what we call a landline, Okay, I mean we used
33:20
Speaker 1: it so rarely they didn't even know what it was.
33:23
Speaker 1: So Morgan, once you you're telling me you found out
33:29
Speaker 1: Molly was missing the day she didn't show up for
33:32
Speaker 1: work at the daycare. What happened next? Right? So, my
33:36
Speaker 1: cousins and I had gone to a movie on Thursday afternoon,
33:40
Speaker 1: and my cousin Jake, who was sitting next to me
33:43
Speaker 1: in the theater, kept getting phone calls, and I mean
33:45
Speaker 1: he received probably eight phone calls, and finally he said
33:49
Speaker 1: to me, I'm going to go step outside of the theater.
33:52
Speaker 1: My phone won't stop bringing I have this call from
33:54
Speaker 1: a number I don't recognize, and he was outside of
33:58
Speaker 1: the theater for a majority of the movie, and it
34:02
Speaker 1: it was really strange. UM. I remember telling my cousin Joe,
34:06
Speaker 1: who was also there with us, that I was going
34:08
Speaker 1: to get out my cellphone and send a text to
34:10
Speaker 1: Jake and just ask him if everything was okay. And
34:15
Speaker 1: when I did pull out my cellphone to check, I
34:18
Speaker 1: noticed that I had a miscall from my dad, who's
34:21
Speaker 1: Molly's uncle, my brother who's Molly's cousin, my cousin Scott,
34:25
Speaker 1: who is Molly's brother, um, you know, and and from
34:28
Speaker 1: Molly's mother, And that was definitely concerning. I knew right
34:32
Speaker 1: away that something was not right, um. And it wasn't
34:36
Speaker 1: really until we got home from our movie that reality
34:41
Speaker 1: kind of set in. Um. The cops had been called.
34:45
Speaker 1: They were at the scene of where she had gone missing,
34:50
Speaker 1: and it just it was terrifying. Um. I it's hard
34:56
Speaker 1: to describe that feeling when you know that something's not
35:01
Speaker 1: right and you're seeing all of the pieces kind of
35:03
Speaker 1: come together and you know there's there's somebody that I
35:09
Speaker 1: love that's missing, and I have no idea. You know,
35:12
Speaker 1: it's frustrating and it's scary. Morgan. How are her parents?
35:18
Speaker 1: How's her family doing? They're hanging in there. Um, you know,
35:21
Speaker 1: they're just taking things one day at a time. UM
35:26
Speaker 1: My aunt who's Molly's mother, is being incredibly strong and
35:31
Speaker 1: she is remaining incredibly hopeful, and you know, like I said,
35:37
Speaker 1: just taking things one day at a time. Obviously we're Morgan,
35:41
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, has Molly ever gone missing before?
35:46
Speaker 1: Has she just gone away for the weekend and not
35:48
Speaker 1: told anybody. No, Molly is a very social creature, and
35:53
Speaker 1: she is constantly in communication with her friends, or her family,
35:58
Speaker 1: or her boyfriend, and someone someone always knows where she
36:03
Speaker 1: is most like, I mean, she because she's social. She's
36:06
Speaker 1: usually with people constantly. She's not the type of person
36:10
Speaker 1: that um is lone often. I mean, if she is,
36:14
Speaker 1: it's when she's going for a run or you know,
36:17
Speaker 1: in the case of Wednesday evening, when she was dog
36:19
Speaker 1: sitting and no one else was there. But but typically
36:24
Speaker 1: she's always surrounded by friends, or she's with her boyfriend,
36:28
Speaker 1: or she's with family. She's very, very social. Is it true,
36:32
Speaker 1: Morgan that she when she ran she liked to run
36:35
Speaker 1: through corn fields, because I've never heard of that. No,
36:38
Speaker 1: that is not true. I'm so glad you told me
36:41
Speaker 1: that I've never heard of anybody running through corn fields
36:44
Speaker 1: because you know, there's corn snakes. Uh, there's just no
36:49
Speaker 1: I'm glad you dispel that myth. That never made sense
36:52
Speaker 1: to me having grown up around cornfields. Yeah, that that
36:55
Speaker 1: would be incredibly difficult to run through a cornfield. Hey,
37:00
Speaker 1: nanswy can I can I interject? Really? Quit jump in? Hey,
37:04
Speaker 1: So I do have a question for Morgan since she
37:07
Speaker 1: was dog sitting, and this could be very crucial. You know,
37:10
Speaker 1: smaller dogs can't hold their urge to go to the
37:15
Speaker 1: restroom as much as bigger dogs. So what kind of
37:18
Speaker 1: dogs when she actually dogs it, because that could be
37:21
Speaker 1: crucial if there was something inside the house like dog urine,
37:25
Speaker 1: dog feces, that could be crucial to the timeline. Right. Um,
37:29
Speaker 1: they are larger sized dogs, I know. I think one
37:31
Speaker 1: of them is a yellow lab, so it's a good
37:34
Speaker 1: sized dog, and the other one, I'm not sure on
37:36
Speaker 1: the breed, but I do know that it's a larger
37:38
Speaker 1: sized dog. We've learned the dogs are kept in the basement.
37:42
Speaker 1: Typically that's where they stay. Were the dogs back in
37:47
Speaker 1: the basement, Morgan, because that would tell me she had
37:49
Speaker 1: gotten back and put him in the basement. I was
37:51
Speaker 1: told that they were in the basement. Yes, And I
37:54
Speaker 1: know it's so like we're splitting hairs, but at this point,
37:59
Speaker 1: we're trying so hard to help find Molly. Guys, if
38:02
Speaker 1: you have information, there is a financial reward. The tip
38:05
Speaker 1: lines four or five to one one one will be
38:09
Speaker 1: that with Morgan, friends and relative of Molly, we're looking
38:15
Speaker 1: desperately to bring home Molly. Tip is listening to what
38:18
Speaker 1: Molly's mother says to ABC. My son Scott, he gave
38:23
Speaker 1: me a call about five fift pm. Same mom, did
38:29
Speaker 1: you know Molly didn't go to work? At which point
38:32
Speaker 1: I said, I will be right home. She's in big trouble,
38:37
Speaker 1: just making me do TV interviews because she was very
38:43
Speaker 1: comfortable going on stage and you know I'm not, but
38:46
Speaker 1: you know, and I was like, Okay, if this is
38:49
Speaker 1: what it takes to get the word out there and
38:51
Speaker 1: get Molly home, I'll do it. Because you can't give
38:54
Speaker 1: up Hope. I mean, I know if if it were
38:58
Speaker 1: me that we're missing, Ally, wouldn't give up hope. It's
39:02
Speaker 1: just been um excruciating, my numbing, you know, all the
39:08
Speaker 1: range of emotions. You won't see me giving up hope.
39:14
Speaker 1: There's that's that's not an option. There's really no clues.
39:22
Speaker 1: There's a d c I agent who said she's been
39:24
Speaker 1: in the business for twenty three years and only one
39:28
Speaker 1: other case where she had so few leads, so I
39:31
Speaker 1: can't speculate. I'm just hoping for the best. The desperate
39:36
Speaker 1: search for Molly tip. It's beautiful, young, healthy and love
39:42
Speaker 1: about to move into her first apartment. She goes jogging,
39:46
Speaker 1: gets back, snapchats her boyfriend who's out of town, and
39:50
Speaker 1: she's never heard from again. I Nancy Grace, this is
39:55
Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Please help us bring home Molly tipline eight
39:59
Speaker 1: hundred war five to one one one one to Lee
40:04
Speaker 1: Egan with me Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter. We
40:09
Speaker 1: are now learning that the timeline we first heard was
40:12
Speaker 1: all wrong. This is significant. She was not snatched while
40:16
Speaker 1: she was out jogging. Okay, she got back to the
40:20
Speaker 1: boyfriend's home and snapchat at him before she mysteriously disappears.
40:26
Speaker 1: Lee Egan, who actually call nine one one to report
40:29
Speaker 1: her missing, who was that that was Molly's mother. She
40:32
Speaker 1: called right after her son. Molly's brother told her that
40:37
Speaker 1: Molly had missed work that day, Lee Agan, what more
40:40
Speaker 1: do we know? Right now? We have a new information
40:44
Speaker 1: that authorities have determined that she did log into her
40:48
Speaker 1: laptop on the evening of Wednesday U to work on
40:53
Speaker 1: some kind of school project. They're saying it's late in
40:55
Speaker 1: the evening, but they're not giving an exact time because
40:58
Speaker 1: they said it's private to the investigation. And then we
41:02
Speaker 1: also know another neighbor came forward and said that he
41:05
Speaker 1: too saw her walking down the road in their neighborhood. Well,
41:09
Speaker 1: he said she was walking nonchalantly, as if she had
41:12
Speaker 1: no care in the world. I bet that was after
41:14
Speaker 1: she went running, because you know, with me, is Morgan column,
41:17
Speaker 1: Molly's a friend, confident relative. If she were running, that's something.
41:22
Speaker 1: But then when you finish your run, many people were
41:26
Speaker 1: like walk a few minutes as they're walking back to
41:28
Speaker 1: their destination or they're cooling down. That tells me that's
41:31
Speaker 1: what she was doing right then when he saw her
41:33
Speaker 1: just walking nonchalantly. But Nancy, this is Ashley. It all
41:37
Speaker 1: depends on the chronological time frame of this, right like
41:40
Speaker 1: we've talked about in the chronology. So yes, that might
41:43
Speaker 1: have been it, but I have to play devil's advocate
41:46
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm really hopeful that she's okay because at
41:49
Speaker 1: this point we don't have enough evidence and thank god,
41:51
Speaker 1: law enforcements looking at both sides of this, we don't
41:54
Speaker 1: know if she may have even though it's out of character,
41:57
Speaker 1: even though she's never done it. How don't I and
42:00
Speaker 1: said I'm gonna go on vacation or I'm gonna go
42:02
Speaker 1: take off and do this, And maybe it's irresponsible, but
42:05
Speaker 1: but at her age we act irresponsibly sometimes or did
42:09
Speaker 1: something really happen to her? So these time frames are
42:12
Speaker 1: so imperative because we really don't know which of these
42:15
Speaker 1: two things happened. You know, I'm glad you brought that up.
42:17
Speaker 1: Ash with me as she Willcott judge, lawyer, founder of
42:21
Speaker 1: child Crime watch dot com with me, Kieren Stark, Lee Egan,
42:25
Speaker 1: Vincent Hill and Morgan column Morgan, let's talk about what
42:29
Speaker 1: as she brought up. Did she just take a powder
42:32
Speaker 1: or did she go away? Where was her? Do we
42:35
Speaker 1: know where her cell phone is? Does she have her
42:37
Speaker 1: cell phone with her? We presume that she had her
42:39
Speaker 1: cellphone with her. UM. One thing that you know we
42:42
Speaker 1: had talked about as well. UM, her boyfriend's brother and
42:48
Speaker 1: his fiancee are actually to be getting married later this
42:52
Speaker 1: week down in the Dominican Republic, and Molly had her
42:57
Speaker 1: passport for that. She was extremely sited to take that trip.
43:01
Speaker 1: She'd been talking about it for months. Um, she loves
43:04
Speaker 1: her job, she's currently taking a college class, and you know,
43:10
Speaker 1: we think we just don't think that she would have
43:14
Speaker 1: often gone because of those Also because I think she
43:20
Speaker 1: would feel extremely guilty having known how much pain and
43:26
Speaker 1: hurt we've been experiencing since she's been gone. UM. You know,
43:30
Speaker 1: we did run that scenario through our heads very briefly
43:34
Speaker 1: and it was dismissed. We we don't think that she
43:38
Speaker 1: would have run off like that. Let's talk about it.
43:41
Speaker 1: I think you're right from what I know of Molly,
43:43
Speaker 1: what I've gleaned about Molly. But let's put it to rest.
43:47
Speaker 1: Where was her driver's license and credit cards? Where was
43:50
Speaker 1: that her wallet? What I've been told was at the
43:53
Speaker 1: house where she was last seen. Okay, I find it
43:57
Speaker 1: very difficult to believe that's what he's going to take off.
44:01
Speaker 1: Karen Stark Karen Stark, renowned New York psychologist, without their
44:06
Speaker 1: I D cell phone, says to me that maybe she
44:11
Speaker 1: grabbed it on her way out. I don't know what
44:13
Speaker 1: the cell phone means to me yet, but I do
44:16
Speaker 1: know if I were leaving to go to just Vanish,
44:22
Speaker 1: I would need at least an I D at least
44:25
Speaker 1: an I D just my driver's license. But she left
44:28
Speaker 1: her wallet behind, driver's license, a t M, credit cards, everything. Yes, yes,
44:34
Speaker 1: I agree, Nancy, that doesn't make a lot of sense
44:36
Speaker 1: to me. Cell phone. We hardly go anywhere without our
44:40
Speaker 1: cell phones these days, so even if she took a
44:43
Speaker 1: little walk, she might take her cell phone. But any
44:46
Speaker 1: place important she would know to take her while at
44:50
Speaker 1: I mean, just to get extra cash, and and had
44:53
Speaker 1: her a t M. So I don't I don't see
44:56
Speaker 1: her just going out, decide that she's going to take
45:00
Speaker 1: a trip somewhere and leaving something that important behind. This
45:04
Speaker 1: also brings up the brother the longtime boyfriend Dalton Jack
45:09
Speaker 1: is not a suspect um. We know that the snapchat
45:14
Speaker 1: from her around ten pm the night she goes missing
45:18
Speaker 1: appears to be taken indoors. All right, So the job
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Speaker 1: was done. Morgan do you understand that the snapchat was
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Speaker 1: sent around t MPM or he opened it around ten pm?
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Speaker 1: To my knowledge, it was sent around ten pm. UM.
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Speaker 1: Just based on what I've heard, it sounds like her
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Speaker 1: boyfriend Dalton was getting pretty sleepy, and I believe that
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Speaker 1: he had fallen asleep and then opened the snapchat the
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Speaker 1: next morning. But the sense time would have been around ten,
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Speaker 1: So that in my mind, places her alive at ten
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Speaker 1: unless somebody is smart enough to break into her snapchat
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Speaker 1: and send the photo to the boyfriend, which I doubt.
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Speaker 1: So I've got our lives. At ten o'clock, everything seems
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Speaker 1: to be normal because she's sending a snapchat. What in
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Speaker 1: the hay happened after ten o'clock? Two? Lee Egan Crime
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Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter Lee that snapchat maybe central
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Speaker 1: to this case. What do we know about the snapchat? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it absolutely would, but we're getting a bit of different information.
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Speaker 1: Police reported that Dalton opened it at ten pm, and
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Speaker 1: they're still not clear when it was sent unless there
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Speaker 1: was something new that developed since then. That was the
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Speaker 1: last we heard. Okay, So that tells me I can't
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Speaker 1: rely on that for my timeline. Okay, we are on
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Speaker 1: the search for Molly Tibbitt's, last seen visually out jogging.
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Speaker 1: She was a University Iowa student looking forward to a
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Speaker 1: big trip to the Dominican Republic for a destination wedding.
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Speaker 1: Her boyfriend's brother getting married. Where was the boyfriend's brother,
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Speaker 1: Morgan the night she goes missing? He was out of town.
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Speaker 1: But I do know that he was out of town somewhere.
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Speaker 1: So he's out of town. Um did he travel? What
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Speaker 1: was his job? To my knowledge? I think he recently
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Speaker 1: opened his own construction company. Um, And I think that
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Speaker 1: that it could have possibly been that he was out
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Speaker 1: of town for his his work. You're right, he was
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Speaker 1: out of town. He was out of town with his
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Speaker 1: girlfriend somewhere, all right. So the reason I was asking
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Speaker 1: is to rule him out as well, because this is
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Speaker 1: a home shared by the boyfriend and the boyfriend's brother.
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Speaker 1: We are on the search for Molly Tibbitts. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to this. Uh, what you were hearing is the boyfriend,
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Speaker 1: Dalton Jack discussing Molly with wo I t V. This
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Speaker 1: is not like her. I figured, you know, i'd speak
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Speaker 1: to her in that hour or so. I came home
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Speaker 1: as soon as her mom said that she called the
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Speaker 1: hospital and she wasn't there. The last time the twenty
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Speaker 1: year old saw Molly was on Wednesday at ten pm
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Speaker 1: when he opened a snapchat from her. It was just
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Speaker 1: a selfie with the caption and I don't remember what
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Speaker 1: the caption said, but it looked like she was inside.
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Speaker 1: One of her co workers called me, said, Molly had
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Speaker 1: not called in to work that day and she hadn't
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Speaker 1: showed up. And then I looked at the messages and
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Speaker 1: she hadn't opened or read any of them. So I
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Speaker 1: started getting in contact with her friends and her family, saying, hey,
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Speaker 1: have you seen her? Have you heard from her? And
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Speaker 1: everybody came up with the same thing. No, I haven't
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Speaker 1: seen her since yesterday. If this is her running off,
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Speaker 1: this is just nobody was just seen coming. Nobody in
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Speaker 1: Nobody in the world, not her family, not me. Nobody
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Speaker 1: would have ever guessed that she would just take off
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Speaker 1: and not tell anybody. Take a listen to what Molly's
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Speaker 1: mother says to ABC. She was very much so looking
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Speaker 1: forward to this um vacations she and Dalton were going
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Speaker 1: to take to the Dominican Republic first part of August.
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Speaker 1: She had her first passports to Lee Egan. Crime online
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Speaker 1: dot Com investigative reporter Lee tell me how police and
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Speaker 1: the FBI are using Molly's fitbit. What they're trying to
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Speaker 1: do is get GPS information off of her fitbit, and
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Speaker 1: they're also they're trying to figure out her heart rate
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Speaker 1: at the time of the time she goes missing, and
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Speaker 1: if there was any major activity during that time to
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Speaker 1: show any distress. You know what's interesting to Morgan column
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Speaker 1: Molly's close relative, is we're not hearing anything about a
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Speaker 1: struggle within the home. We're not hearing anything about a
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Speaker 1: forced entry, trying to figure out who Molly would have
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Speaker 1: let into the home or with no struggle her cell
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Speaker 1: phone missing. I agree with her mom, it's hard to
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Speaker 1: figure out which way to go. Morgan, what do you
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Speaker 1: have to say to everyone listening now? I would just
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Speaker 1: encourage everybody to stay vigilant and if they see anything,
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Speaker 1: please call it in. We've been told that there's no
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Speaker 1: such thing as a tip too small, because you never
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Speaker 1: know what piece of information could help to bring Molly home.
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Speaker 1: Morgan tell me about Molly. I mean, I see the
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Speaker 1: beautiful photo of her and the big smile. What what
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Speaker 1: is Molly like, Yeah, the smile matches the personality completely.
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Speaker 1: Molly is very caring. She's helpful, she's funny, she's smart,
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Speaker 1: she loves to help, um, anybody that needs help. She's
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Speaker 1: got a great laugh. She's just somebody that if you
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Speaker 1: didn't know her, you would want to be friends with her,
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Speaker 1: you would want to spend time with her, because she's
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Speaker 1: such a light. You know, she's just radiates positivity and
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Speaker 1: she's she's amazing. What was she studying, Morgan Psychology And um,
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Speaker 1: it's interesting, she actually had to take a foreign language
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Speaker 1: course at her at the University of Iowa, and she
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Speaker 1: actually chose sign language, which I think is is really cool. So,
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Speaker 1: but that's not her main course of study. She was
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Speaker 1: studying psychology. She is studying psychology. The very latest. Right now,
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Speaker 1: the missing University of Iowa student just twenty years old,
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Speaker 1: breaking now, was not kidnapped while on a jog. She
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Speaker 1: returned to the boyfriend's house after the jog, sending him
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Speaker 1: a final snapchat before she mysteriously seemingly disappears off the
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Speaker 1: face of the earth. Right now, we know the FBI
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Speaker 1: has taken command of the investigation and they are focusing
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Speaker 1: on her digital footprint, including data they are obtaining from
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Speaker 1: her fitbit tracker. There has been an extensive volunteer search
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Speaker 1: effort all around her home, out into cornfields where she
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Speaker 1: may have run. There is a reward right now for
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Speaker 1: information on Molly's disappearance. Boyfriend and boyfriend's brother ruled out.
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Speaker 1: That's very rare. You hear that up front. They have
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Speaker 1: been ruled out. Where is Molly? Tibbets tipline eight four
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Speaker 1: or five to one one one one, Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to Molly's mother if it were meither were missing, Molly
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Speaker 1: wouldn't give up hope. Um, that's not a thought. You
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Speaker 1: won't see me giving up hope. There's that's that's not
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Speaker 1: an option. Nancy Grace Crime Stories signing off, goodbye friend