Latest / She Speaks to Scale / 14. From Unheard to Speaking Her Truth in Parliament, with Nesha Mistry
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- Nesha Canvas Creations: ⁓ Sarah Collins: Hi, Nisha. Thank you so much for joining today. I'm really looking forward to this conversation and hearing about your journey with your voice ⁓ because I feel like I have followed your journey and see grown into a really beautiful speaker. ⁓ Now I have to be transparent with the listeners. My guest today is Nisha Mystery, who is a self taught artist, emotional wellness mentor, certified life coach, mental health first aider, and she's also trained in suicide awareness. Nisha facilitates workshops and community experiences designed to support people of all ages, backgrounds and abilities in reconnecting with creativity, joy and a sense of belonging. Hello and welcome to She Speaks to Scale with me, Sarah Collins. The podcast that empowers women in business to own their voice, be heard and create impact, one communication insight at a time. I'm a media trainer and communication coach and a former senior television producer. It's my mission to bring the communication skills we need to thrive in today's world of business to the generation of women who simply weren't taught them. Nisha is a previous client of mine, and I just feel so blessed to have been a part of your journey. And I'm sure we'll talk about that within this episode. So first of all, can you share with me the moment you realized your voice truly matters? With over a decade of lived experience with suicidal thoughts and ideation, Nisha brings both professional knowledge and personal understanding into her work. She is passionate about creating environments where individuals feel safe to express themselves, explore their emotions, and realize they are not alone. Her approach blends creativity, compassion, and community, offering accessible, supportive spaces where healing and self discovery can unfold naturally. Nesha Canvas Creations: So firstly, thank you, Sarah. I'm super excited to be on your podcast. was actually reflecting back on this question a lot ⁓ I feel like ⁓ back and how far back I go, there's some vivid memories I do have from when I was ⁓ Sarah Collins: Whether it's scaling your voice to step into thought leadership in a media interview, speaking with confidence on camera, on stage and beyond, or scaling the way you communicate when it really counts. This podcast will help you use your voice to be heard in the moments that matter. Nesha Canvas Creations: I think 11, year 6, I ⁓ And we were at this having lunch and a few peers of ours, was lunch break. And I don't know why this memory came but it did when I was reflecting on this ⁓ question. ⁓ There were some people were and there some people who were meat eaters. I was one of the meat eaters and I had my lovely chicken sandwich made by my mum, all nicely prepared. ⁓ And... Sarah Collins: Let's dive into the conversation. What a conversation. I think it's clear in the episode how strong our bond is having worked together. What I loved about working with Nisha was that she was very receptive to doing the mindset work needed to speak confidently about what she does and ultimately have the impact she wanted to make. From not being able to speak at a networking event to delivering workshops, hosting events, and even to speaking in parliament, there's no stopping her now. Nesha Canvas Creations: Someone had actually made a comment that just didn't sit well with me. Something to do with like, being dirty that you eat meat or you shouldn't do this, you shouldn't do that. And I don't know why, but I remember just speaking really passionately and going, do you know what? I respect that you're a vegetarian. Please respect that I eat meat and maybe we can just respect each other. And if you don't like it, then maybe we sit at different tables. Sarah Collins: And I can't wait to keep following how she shares her story and purpose from here on in. Nesha Canvas Creations: And I remember specifically this one boy on the table, he just started clapping. And ⁓ I was like, ⁓ maybe ⁓ something I'm saying, not rude, it's truthful. something I'm saying actually resonates with people and that being the voice for someone who might be thinking it. And I actually said it out loud. I being younger, I was a bit more less filtered in terms of just saying it, but... Yeah, that memory came to mind Sarah Collins: If Nisha's journey resonated with you really interesting. What you said there was about being the voice for other people. ⁓ wanted to touch on ⁓ in that then, ⁓ and this voice, like it just came out of somewhere, ⁓ which is beautiful. How did it you feel then ⁓ once you'd said and you heard this clapping? and you'd like some support with how you speak about your business, Nesha Canvas Creations: It was like a relief, was almost like I was you know, passion and frustration and justice and all of these words, these big powerful words that you feel. I just felt it a huge injustice to be like, hey it's disrespectful, like why do you need to do that? Sarah Collins: then do get in touch. Thank you for listening to this episode of She Speaks to Scale. If you like the episode or you think it will be useful for someone else, please follow and leave a review. If your fears and doubts stop you from appearing on camera and speaking confidently about what you do, then I have some free resources which I will place in the show notes. Remember to speak with intention, not hesitation, and let your voice be heard. Nesha Canvas Creations: I think it came from a lot of being bullied as well. I think something just snapped and I just was, I've had enough of feeling like I'm always doing something wrong or it's not good enough or I have to fit in. And I just, I was tired at that point. I was, just want to eat my lunch in peace, please. So yeah, something came over me. Sarah Collins: I love people's stories like that. In the notes that you shared with me, you said that your was either too loud or too small when you growing up and that eventually you stopped sharing much at all. And that was fascinating to me because people ⁓ either say that they're too or they're too small, but you're saying you were kind of both. Can you explain a bit more about that? Nesha Canvas Creations: Yeah, I think when you're unfiltered and being younger and very expressive, like I would share, I would share. And whether it made sense or not to other people, it made sense to me. And it would be random bursts of song, random things, just in my own company or wanting to chat to people and be curious as you do. Sometimes growing up and family dynamics as well, you kind of sometimes have to be proper or, you know, be quiet or, It just wasn't freeing enough to just let it out. It slowly then became a voice that became more muted. And so I never really knew how much or how little to share or not share and what dynamics were the correct places to share and not share. Who you can trust as well is also speaking. Can I trust these people to share my inner world or be me? And so I was always a bit like... cautious everywhere and but I never was like that. It's the conditioning I think of stay quiet and listen around don't say anything you don't want people to know about you or those environments of you need to speak up otherwise no one's gonna know about you so I think I was confused for a lot of my life and maybe the volume and I'm excited the volume goes up and you're singing you are joyful but then when you're feeling a bit out of alignment or your nervous system just is not comfortable. It just goes mute or you're really high pitched because you're like trying to be fake, it's like not authentic voice. So I never found the balance I think until more recently with which end of the spectrum I am. I know I'm more central now I'd say if that makes sense. Sarah Collins: Yeah, no, no, no, it does. Absolutely. it is fascinating, isn't it? Just actually those childhood experiences and how that can lead to, years and years of actually not using your voice in, a way that is impactful What you do in your work now is about creating safe spaces, for people to be able to, be heard, to be able to express themselves, ⁓ to come together with people in the community through creativity. ⁓ having been through all of that, what does that mean to you? Nesha Canvas Creations: Is that course being the mother figure to people that come in. Through my own lived experience of being shut down, being ⁓ unseen, invalidated, I'm almost like got this pitchfork with these community events going, hey, ⁓ okay, like for once, just have a space where you can speak and share and cry. And, if come to me, it's going to be welcomed and ⁓ nourished. It's not to be shunned down. It's not going to be ⁓ you're judged. And also these spaces I create, there is a rule that if I do spot people judging or criticizing or shaming people in these environments, they will be asked to leave because that's not the environment that I'm trying to create. It's actually that they're continuing that toxic cycle and traumas for people. So it's just allowing them to be authentic and breathe. You know, when you take a deep breath and you go, ah. Finally, it's that and the creative space also doesn't start off talking all the time. Creativity is with your hands and so you start feeling calm first. You get introduced to the activities and then the conversation comes and then the safety of expression and sharing. I had random people like my workshop, especially the kids I'd say, but some of the adults. just outbursting in song. There's no music on, like at some points, but there's just little like humming and I it. And that is their inner child coming out. That is accepted. It's accepting people, not trying to change them because someone feels uncomfortable. So yeah, I'm almost like that pitchfork lady going, ⁓ come and you, feel like someone's making you feel uncomfortable or something, my spaces aren't for them. So. Yeah, I feel really protective of people right now. Maybe I wanted that protection myself. yeah, it's just to be free. We are so coated in adulthood and ⁓ sometimes working with and adults when they're both in the same community space doing creativity, sometimes I find the ⁓ are... watching the children and when they watch the children do creativity, they are low-key judging criticizing commenting and that's not creating freedom. So then I get them to get involved. I want the adults to tap into that inner child. They need it more than the children. And so it gets them thinking and being compassionate not only with themselves but with other people and that's where you can sort of help heal people and and bring them back to birthright of being creative and kind. So yeah, I visualized a really strong woman with this fiery pitchfork going, hey, I'm here. Sarah Collins: I love about what you said there ⁓ the adults looking at the children and seeing them ⁓ ⁓ deeply involved with the creative process. And I feel like, and part of the reason for this podcast is because we're a generation whereby we kind of stopped having creative outlet And I think, ⁓ in stop using our voices because of that fear of rejection, what other people will think of us. In your opinion, why do you think as adults, we kind of stop that? Nesha Canvas Creations: It's a really good question and ⁓ it's a blame thing at all it's just my observation and maybe I've just never been one to fit into societal norms, expectations, the matrix, all of these things has always been too constrictive for me mainly because I feel To go past a certain age, we are told what the right things are to do. We are not given freedom to decide, to explore, to sit with ourselves. We're told the next step, the next step. I have nieces and nephews, they're 11 and 12, and they are already feeling low and depressed and anxious because it's the next exam, it's the next thing to do. Then they're thinking about university at 12. I mean... Can we just remember that they are children? We were all once children. And so they start losing their ability to decide, to have fun and play and they think they're not worthy of it. They don't think they're deserving of play because life is supposed to be so serious all the time. But I just feel like societal expectations and these norms are really damaging. I really want the arts to come back, the arts, the theatre, the dance, the play, the sports. Because that gives you strength to figure out the next bit. It's less logical, it's balancing your right side of the brain. And we discussed this when we were doing coaching last year and actually there's science behind the creative side. It helps us balance ourselves. We're too left-side and I was once there, the next step, okay, now you're... I don't know, certain age in your 20s, are you gonna look to find a partner and get married and then have children? Like all of these things create anxiety instead of just being present. And when we're present, the next step seems doable. So I think whoever constructed society, I would love to speak to them. I would get them to do something creative and sit with me and have a conversation because... Sarah Collins: Hmm. What a conversation that would be. Nesha Canvas Creations: It's damaging and this is why we're in 2026 and we're still suffering with mental health challenges and we're in crisis and people are lost, anxious, depressed. I could talk about this for days, I just think how we are conditioned to be brought up isn't our choice, it's been given to us, it's been told. And I think if we give people more of a choice in a say maybe it's too scary for people who want to control us a bit more. So yeah I think social constructs haven't always been healthy for humanity in the way that we're actually supposed to live and coexist and co-regulate together. So yeah hope that answers your question. Sarah Collins: I'd you to do actually, just take a step back because we didn't talk about the inspiration behind your business. So I would love to hear about that. And I also had a previous guest on who spoke about the parallels between writing stories and poems ⁓ and expressing your that way. And I'm wondering whether, do you see the parallels between Nesha Canvas Creations: it. Thank you. Sarah Collins: art and being creative and almost having a voice. I'm interested to hear your take on that. Nesha Canvas Creations: I love this question. it's a form of expression that for me personally I loved because it didn't start off with words ⁓ being ⁓ Quite overwhelmed as a child, anxious, unsure whether to speak or to not speak, feeling really like self-conscious because of all the bullying, suicidal thoughts, not feeling worthy. Art never spoke back to me. I created and it was there and it loved me because I created it. I didn't have to say anything, it just let me breathe. And it's the same as writing and poetry and all forms of creativity, it's in your head onto something. and that something is yours and that when you make something you almost get protective of it in terms of if someone wants to say something or whatever you know I really like it I made it it's mine and it's the same as your voice it's the same as you as a person so I really like me I'm mine and you can have an opinion but it's not necessarily true ⁓ but the creativity and the expression for me ⁓ it's an outward practice to process what's inward and then I can speak about it once it starts making sense. And also it's just encouraging like self-compassion and kindness and that what we talked about the rewiring of your brain it's it's doing those things first in order to then express to people and talk and feel comfortable because I was a very overwhelmed anxious child so speaking to people about things who actually heard me. I used to say things a lot like, no one's listening to me. And I didn't mean the random stuff. I meant the things that were hurting me or the things I needed support with. I was like, no one is hearing me, no one's listening. And then I wouldn't say anything but art listened to me. It didn't say anything back. It just let me be. And so coming back to the community spaces and workshops and stuff is like letting people be. But I do think all forms of writing is really powerful. There's something about writing on a pen and paper that crystallizes the words that you're saying. It makes sense. You can visualize it. And so what you're writing, say you're not having a great day and you wrote all of that down, it's out there. ⁓ It's like a ⁓ process of out, out, and then you can chuck it. And it's almost like that. physical getting rid of those thoughts. But it's just freeing. speaking without and then the words come after for me for creating. And they're kind words to yourself rather than all the negative things that ⁓ normally day day most people are like churning in their minds with. Sarah Collins: love the way that you described that. And what I love about you, Nisha, is you're so passionate about what you do and it comes through in the way that you speak. It really does. a believer as well in terms of journaling and getting your thoughts out, ⁓ there is something, isn't there, about putting that pen to paper and just all those inner thoughts written down ⁓ just to you. Nesha Canvas Creations: Okay. Sarah Collins: process it, but also actually to make you self aware as well of what you are thinking. Now we worked together over a period of three months. And I was saying before, when I see you now and I see that having worked together, you've gone on to launch your own podcast, be a guest on other people's podcasts. Nesha Canvas Creations: Thank you. Okay. Sarah Collins: You are delivering your workshops, being a speaker at events. You've even gone to parliament and you've spoken there as well. Honestly, it makes me feel really, really proud of you and what you've achieved. What was it about? Wow. I almost wanted to ask you, would Nisha, who was in year six, would she have that you were doing what you're doing now? Nesha Canvas Creations: No, not to the extent or the platforms I'm sort of reaching at the minute and it's not in an egotistical way it's almost like a justice way like I'm I'm serving justice for myself and the voices that aren't being heard and all the rubbish that people tolerate. It's like, again, that pitchfork lady comes back going, no, I'm here now. And it is really scary. And one thing I loved about your coaching is that fear. You've really helped me. narrow down where the fear was coming from, how to navigate it and also work with it. So like make friends with it and that passenger on the bus exercise that we did, ⁓ god it will always stay with me. Those UP people and those really affirming belief systems always come with me. So when I'm doing these things Sarah believe me you're in the back of my mind ⁓ like the cheerleader going yes this is what we work towards this is this is what we wanted. Own it, this is time now. You don't need to hide anymore. And I remember one of the affirmations was I'm done hiding. And yeah, I don't think the year six year old me would actually believe that I'm here now, but I'm really proud of myself. But it's not been a journey that I've done on my own. I've had really good support of you being one of them. So. Sarah Collins: Hmm. Nesha Canvas Creations: If anyone's watching, please book Sarah, she's brilliant. Honestly, you've been a godsend and you were the best investment I had put myself into last year. So I think I would have regretted not doing that with you, not having you coach me because it just led me on to more and more and more. I'm feeling worthy of it. So I think I just want to say thank you. Sarah Collins: I didn't know you to say that. ⁓ that's really lovely. Thank you so much. Now we have to talk a bit more about the passengers on the bus exercise because that's an exercise. Actually, I hadn't used it with clients for a little while, but because you obviously are real creative and I thought what is going to work here in this situation where you can really visualize. Nesha Canvas Creations: Okay. Sarah Collins: what those thoughts and kind of characteristics that are coming through. ⁓ And it's essentially, I gave you a picture, didn't I, of a couple of buses and you had to write down again, writing the thoughts down, who was on the bus right now. And then actually when you think about your goals that you want to achieve in terms of kind of speaking and letting your voice be heard, which of those need to come off the bus at the next stop? Nesha Canvas Creations: Okay. That's it. Sarah Collins: And it had a real impact on you, didn't it? And we spent quite a lot of time kind of going through and looking at these descriptions and yeah, you were just, you were so receptive to that. ⁓ really, you know, I want to thank you for that as well. What was it about that particular exercise? I know you still use it now, which is brilliant. Nesha Canvas Creations: I'm doing it now after seeing this part going beep beep like it's just approaching at these new stations and I loved it and I was like ⁓ cool like I've never done something like this before and you're right you got to know me because your curiosity is insanely good ⁓ and you're active listening in terms of the visual ⁓ how I like to visualize things so this was really fun because it's this I don't know why it's an American yellow bus. it's like, it's got those big windows, the big like tires and everything. And then you've got two of them. The one, which is the old identity, that old, you're not worthy, your voice doesn't matter. Why are you here? All those negative belief systems, they're on that one bus and it's a bit rusty. It's a bit, it's yellow, but it's like, you know, a bit rusty and like losing color. And then you've got this nice new one. and it's full of self-confidence, you are worthy. It's all these like, I spoke about it with my sister because I love vocalizing it as well and she's quite visual. And we were just having a back and forth discussion and I was like, what do you picture? she was like, I picture these potato chips, like going yippee, and these smiley faces going yay. And I just stuck and it's these like really excitable animated sort of characters or chips or something. just really cheering with these like stick arms and legs and it's just pulling up to each next station whether it's an interview, whether it's going to parliament, whether it's doing my podcast like they're just arriving and they're like I'm here and you're on this bus Sarah like you're actually on this bus too and it's like it's like the journey we've done together but like you're Sarah Collins: Wow! Nesha Canvas Creations: you're just there with me ⁓ but I love it and I still visualize it and it was just brilliant ⁓ and smiling ear to ear because it was so fun and like learning about in that way it was just I was like wow like it just it was really eye-opening and it made me think about Sarah Collins: Okay. Nesha Canvas Creations: how horrible this old bus was for me. And I was driving it around and it was coming around me for too long. And it was time. So until that moment, I didn't realize how heavy of an old bus I was carrying. And I'll be honest, it's not been easy to take on the new bus all the time. I have had some moments, but it's getting stronger. It's... Sarah Collins: Hmm. Nesha Canvas Creations: The bus is growing for sure, so no, it was really fun and I loved it, so thank you. Sarah Collins: ⁓ I'm so glad to hear that. I'm really glad that you use it to this day as well. Coaching, and you'll know this is all about raising that self-awareness, isn't it? And when we started working together, ⁓ we went to basics ⁓ because you I think I'm right in saying struggling to really ⁓ talk about your business when you were out about meeting other people. ⁓ Nesha Canvas Creations: So. Okay. Sarah Collins: You described it beautifully, which was, it was like a snake shedding its skin and kind of each session we had, would, we would add in other things and you'd be able to talk about your business in a, in, know, in a slightly different way and adding other layers to it as well. And what do you do differently now, would you say, aside from visualizing the bus? Nesha Canvas Creations: I look at myself in the mirror and I really talk to myself. Like, you know, when you look at someone in the eye and you're really serious about who you are and what you want to become and the affirmations everywhere, I've literally got a... Sarah Collins: from us working together. What do you do differently now? Nesha Canvas Creations: on the wall next to me this whole post-it wall of affirmations and I sit opposite, look at them and digest them. had to get out my own way and ⁓ really ask I could do all these things, I could be so self-aware but unless I'm doing ⁓ the thing that I'm saying I'm doing and I'm trying to teach people as well, I have to advocate for myself and if that means getting out of my comfort zone, going to a networking event, figuring out, you know, if I'm going to care if someone's going to care what I'm saying or just being firm in who I am and I had to get out my own damn way. I was tired and I was tired for a very long time until you came along. And I'm not even just saying this, was, my messaging was a mess. I didn't even have a proper title. I was, I was everywhere. And you helped me feel seen. Like you actually understood what my mission was and it made, started to make sense. And so I was a snake sort of like maneuvering and then the layers of its skin is like moving away from it and there's new shiny skins come out. Sarah Collins: Hahaha! Nesha Canvas Creations: It's the only thing I could describe the journey with you. It was, I'm this new shiny snake, like a friendly one. But I had to get out my own way and that was, that was hard because my identity was so connected to that old belief system. And I do have setbacks, but it doesn't set me back as far as it used to. It's just small. Sarah Collins: you Nesha Canvas Creations: then we use the tools and the things that you've taught and the things I've learned to keep moving. So yeah, to be an advocate, you've got to advocate for yourself, right? So yeah. Sarah Collins: Yeah, we've got to walk the walk, haven't you? You mentioned there, and I think it's important to just touch on that about setbacks because you and I both, you we run our own businesses. have other responsibilities as well. when you're having those setbacks, if you're happy to share ⁓ Nesha Canvas Creations: Yeah. Thank Okay. Sarah Collins: What works for you in those moments? Because I know there will be so many people listening who perhaps don't talk about the setbacks, but I think it's really actually good for them to hear, you know, some strategies that perhaps they could use that, that you find helpful. Nesha Canvas Creations: a really interesting question. I when I've had setbacks, so personally when I've had setbacks, I take a pause. Because if I stay in that phase of setback, and I've been here, I've had a setback and I quit, I give up, I'm done, I'm just gonna do the normal thing, I don't know. where I'm going, what I'm doing, I start going into this spiral and it's so normal because you just you fight for something and you are just frustrated, you're tired, you know what you want to do and the impact you want to make but it's not the timing that you ⁓ may thought or expected. So I've definitely spiraled, I've had moments where I've quit ⁓ and a short period I've wanted to chuck all my materials in the bin and ⁓ you all this stuff that I've been collecting. But I've learnt now, every time I've had a setback, there's been a reminder somewhere that this is your journey, this is called for you. You're meant to be here for a reason as a spokesperson, a coach, a mentor, whatever you choose to do. Live it, you're meant for it. And those moments of setback, will be some reminder somewhere going, back again because you're not meant quit and I've had that with I think it was last year I had a moment and I was saying to my sister I was like I'm really done I have no idea where I'm going with this workshops aren't like coming to fruition sign ups all of these setbacks and I as soon as I said I quit this sounds really weird and it might not be what everyone experiences but this is what I did They showed a few hours later I got a message on Instagram from someone to do a collaboration. They somehow seen the work that I was doing, loved it and I was like, right, just as much as I wanted to quit, someone's come and been like, ⁓ no, just little steps. And those little reminders are like hope. ⁓ gives you confidence again to go, okay, I'll get back up again. ⁓ But just with setbacks is I take a pause. I go for a walk. I look inward and I just am present in that setback and go, you know what? Today I'm not doing anything with my business and that is okay. It doesn't mean forever. And you probably know this too, you need breaks because otherwise it becomes burnout and overwhelm and the thing that you're passionate about. And then you can't really help people to your maximum capacity. So yeah, I've spiraled and it's perfectly normal. It's okay. but now it's just setback means take a pause and then come back. Sarah Collins: There's, there's something in there, isn't there about listening to your body, listening to what your body's telling you. ⁓ it me recently, I've been delivering some training ⁓ and were talking about actually where the tension in your body is. ⁓ And, and feel like it's a similar thing. So when you're experiencing that you're listening to what your body needs and you're doing that in that moment. Nesha Canvas Creations: Mm-hmm. Our bodies are always talking to us. get a lot of like, either jaw pain because I'm not expressing truth enough. in I'm doing or how I want to come across or there'll be certain pains in like, where do I normally get like lower back pain and like the gut as well. And that's just misalignment. It just means your body's trying to like signal to you something just off balance. And until you come back to that, you can then kind of show up fully in authentically and in alignment. But please don't ignore those signs from the body. did when I was younger and that's why I started doing yoga and all these holistic therapies because it catches up with you and it's, we're always talking to ourselves. Even things like cravings of different foods, we're always talking and communicating with ourselves. It's whether we choose to listen or ignore it is the path that you'll. end up sort of going down, but it doesn't mean to say you can't start that now. If you decided today, do you know what, I'm going to kind of go in and listen to myself a little bit more. It just means taking a pause and, and sitting with yourself, which we find really uncomfortable. But yeah, you're so right. Our body, our body speaks to us in many ways. Sarah Collins: Mm. I think there's an element there, which is something I haven't really touched on, certainly in this podcast, which is about the inner chatter and reframing the inner chatter as well. And I know that is something that we really worked on, didn't we? Nesha Canvas Creations: Mm. Sarah Collins: I think when you go for a speaking opportunity, and I'm assuming this might be your experience, it's about really channeling that inner chatter and reframing it onto the people that you're helping. Do you find that that work that we did together helps you in those situations? Nesha Canvas Creations: Yeah, think what I loved about you and what made me progress with wanting you to coach me is the word you use is impact and the impact is larger than ourselves in terms of the impact on other people and the impact on yourself. So in that moment of uncomfortable, that's all self beliefs. Sometimes I actually tell myself like, brain just be quiet, like stop talking to me. And then you flip it and you go, no, I can do this. What I'm saying is gonna resonate. What I'm saying is gonna help someone. If you're here to help, I don't care if I'm nervous. Someone is gonna come away and be like, I'm really glad she said that or. I didn't know that. Thank you. Not even a thank you, just I didn't know that and go away being like, it's, yeah, it's impact, which you do really well and you've taught me so well. It's the messaging, it's the way you construct what you're saying. How does it connect with people? So yeah, it's not, when you want to help people, it's not about you, but it is a little bit. It helps each other. Healing can't be done in isolation, right? If you're helping others, you've got to get out of your comfort zone, which then helps you. So it's like a circle of helping each other, I guess. Sarah Collins: I've taught you really well, Nisha, because that is exactly what I practice and preach to other people. So I'm really glad that you summed it up like that. Nesha Canvas Creations: Thank So I will be actually actively joining a lot more community spaces myself advocate for art and mental health. ⁓ I do weekly workshops. I at the International Siddharthram Shakti Centre in Harrow. ⁓ Sarah Collins: Tell us a little bit more about kind of what you've got coming up. What's in the pipeline for you. Nesha Canvas Creations: do a lot of work, community work to raise for ⁓ various different mental health challenges, to support children of different ⁓ women, all of these things. So I am actively like participating in community events also run and facilitate the art workshops for on Sunday, but it's welcome to all. ⁓ It free because I do believe that creativity should be accessible to people, so low cost to no cost And that inner child, it explores a bit of my culture as well to teach and educate around some of the songs that we sing, the prayers, ⁓ the universal energy and bringing in the science of it as well as this educational too. I'll be curating something for October which is World Mental Health Day and it's also my birthday surprisingly, World Mental Health Day so I'm in the pipeline of putting something together for that day. And then yeah, just any collaborations coming up, workshops. I'm now doing personal development coaching, so one-to-one client work, and that will be helping people to overcome people-pleasing, strengthening our resilience to rejection and the fear of visibility. All the things that I've gone through and people have taught me So yeah, it's just, things are coming. Sarah Collins: doing so well. And what I love about what you do is so many people are going to benefit as well. It really is amazing the work that you're doing. Where would people go if they wanted to find out more? Nesha Canvas Creations: So you can find me nisha underscore canvas creations and that's nisha with one E and that's my art and emotional wellness mentor page where you can see all the upcoming workshops that I've got and you can see any events that I'm doing. So I'm curating community events as well to bring in other health and wellbeing practitioners in one space. And you can also see my vulnerable voices podcast page, which Sarah has been a guest on, an absolute amazing guest. And that's again, to raise awareness for mental health through people's personal journeys and stories. We explore childhood, mental health, just healing and education. So yeah, those are my two pages. Website is under construction, so please keep an eye out. And then there'll be more updates on workshops and other events you can come on to. Sarah Collins: you Brilliant. Thank you for that. Now, just one last question before you go. To wrap up every episode, I like to ask my guests to complete the blank. So if you could encourage listeners to speak with, and then please add your own kind of word or phrase and a reason for what that is, what would that be? Nesha Canvas Creations: . Truth. Speak with truth and that's truth to yourself first and then truth to others. And when I say truth is, you know that phrase where it says, if you point a finger, it's three pointing back at you. Start with you first. What is in alignment with you? What isn't in alignment with you? What do you love? What do you enjoy? What don't you like? What are your needs and wants? All of these things are authentically you. That is a way from societal conditioning and all this trauma and adulthood coating. Really, I think. speak with truth and then you can be truthful to others as well. Sarah Collins: ⁓ thank you. really, I really loved that. And I know a lot of listeners would too as well. Thank you, Nisha. I've really enjoyed our conversation. So lovely to see you. Nesha Canvas Creations: Thank you, Sarah. Honestly, I really appreciate you and you are forever on that bus with me.