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The Forsytes S1E3 (PBS) · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Homewark review podcast that
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  Speaker 1: refuses to be put in a Hallmark only box.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Megan and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Wendy. I'm a former Hallmark hater.
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  Speaker 1: On today's episode, we are discussing the PBS masterpiece series
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  Speaker 1: The Four Sights, Episode three, which originally premiered on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: April fifth, and is currently available to stream on PBS
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  Speaker 1: Why don't we kick off our discussion of The Foresights
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  Speaker 1: with a synopsis of this episode.
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  Speaker 3: Joe hopes to.
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  Speaker 2: Fulfill newfound obligation, while James's attempts to sabotage him intensify,
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  Speaker 2: June seeks solace with Philip Solme's promises, Irene a move
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  Speaker 2: to Paris and support for her dancing.
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  Speaker 1: All of our main cast returns in this episode, and
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  Speaker 1: it's a long list, so we're not going to go
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  Speaker 1: through it and find it on our website, Girls Gonehollmark
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  Speaker 1: dot com. The link to our complete show notes is
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  Speaker 1: always in the show notes on whatever app you're listening to.
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  Speaker 1: The entire cast and crew is listed there. Hey, Wendy,
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  Speaker 1: what was your first impression of this episode of the Foresights?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think Montague is one promotion away from taking
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  Speaker 2: over Foresight and co oh, the man is Fumblinawards.
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  Speaker 1: I think Monty might be the biggest villain in this show.
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  Speaker 1: For me, my first impression is Grandmamma is that girl? Oh? Right?
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  Speaker 2: In my notes, I'm like, yeah, Anne, you go on, Anne,
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  Speaker 2: like so many times, so so many times? Can I
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  Speaker 2: start with Anne in my on? You know she's quietly
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  Speaker 2: running things, yeah, and maybe even not so quietly. She's observant, sharp,
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  Speaker 2: she's not afraid to call things out when needed.
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  Speaker 3: She's so easily could be the villain here, I know,
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  Speaker 3: But she's not. She's not.
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  Speaker 2: She is warm, she's likable, a little bit scary, uh huh,
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  Speaker 2: But I kind of love it when she's in the
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  Speaker 2: boardroom and she fully claps back at these men who
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  Speaker 2: are like, Oh, this is gonna ruin our family or
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  Speaker 2: be a bad look on our family, and she's like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, this is not the first time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she without sins yet exactly.
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  Speaker 1: You would expect her, as the matriarch of the family
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  Speaker 1: to be the one who's so entrenched in tradition, and
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  Speaker 1: she looks at things with.
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  Speaker 3: Such a modern eye.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's so observant and aware, as you said, And
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  Speaker 1: the way that she's fully aware more than anybody of
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  Speaker 1: what is going to happen with Solmes, The way she
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  Speaker 1: recognized what June is going through, the way she sees
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  Speaker 1: the reality of Joe's situation and calls.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody to the table on it. She is my favorite.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna need her to figure out if Joe Senior
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  Speaker 2: and Francis have something going on. Oh is this going
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  Speaker 2: to be a blind side to Anne if that's the
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  Speaker 2: way we're moving.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I have big suspicions about it. I just
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  Speaker 3: see her being like, told.
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  Speaker 1: You just in the background, like, what do you mean
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  Speaker 1: that's a surprise to you, Joe, what do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: Look?
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of women, I loved I really enjoyed Emily in
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  Speaker 1: this episode Solmes's Mommy. Now we start if Slam's revealing
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  Speaker 1: at the dinner table that he's going to be bringing
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  Speaker 1: a woman to the races the next day, and they
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  Speaker 1: all assume it's Olivia Carter except Grandmama. However, I did
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  Speaker 1: love like when Irene walks in, Grandmama kind of squeaks,
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  Speaker 1: she like sees her, and she kind of was like, well, look,
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  Speaker 1: the parents look completely dismayed at this, right. But the
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  Speaker 1: way Emily processes all of this, she cares more about
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  Speaker 1: her son and losing her son than about what this
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  Speaker 1: match means to their family, which is a little.
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  Speaker 2: Surprising because I thought in the earlier episodes one and
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  Speaker 2: two she was kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh, a cartero it, Yes, yes, And I think I agree,
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  Speaker 1: And I wonder if that's because this is a family
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  Speaker 1: with similar goals, and so if he marries into the
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  Speaker 1: Carteret family, then perhaps they would stay in each other's lives.
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  Speaker 1: But here there's several scenes we see her speaking to
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  Speaker 1: James and James is so dismayed about what this means
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  Speaker 1: for the family. James is like, what does love matter?
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  Speaker 1: And she comes right back with quite a lot actually,
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  Speaker 1: and then she says, I think I rather envy him
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  Speaker 1: and the look she is giving James, And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: we saw her as just this flighty woman with her puppy,
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  Speaker 1: when in reality, I think she's lonely. I think she's
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  Speaker 1: in a loveless marriage. She doesn't have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: respect from her husband, doesn't really have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: respect from her son either, who who didn't have the
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  Speaker 1: courtesy to let her in in advance, let her be
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  Speaker 1: blindsided by him bringing Irene, And she's just trying to
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  Speaker 1: find joy where she can. And at the wedding, James
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  Speaker 1: is so mad and making snide remarks, and she just
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  Speaker 1: looks at him with love. Yeah, she just loves him.
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  Speaker 3: I know, how hard as it all is.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't really track all that stuff until they have
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  Speaker 2: that moment when James and Emily sit down with Solmes
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  Speaker 2: and James says, your mom's very upset, and she turns
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  Speaker 2: and looks at him. I was like, Oh, she's not
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  Speaker 2: very upset, and James is putting it on her because
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  Speaker 2: James kind of a real jerk, is putting it on
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  Speaker 2: Emily here, huh, And I don't like any of that.
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  Speaker 2: And Somes knows so, yeah, is fully aware of James's
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  Speaker 2: social climbing tendencies and how even in the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the episode, James seems to be talking about how they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna oust Joe and Somelme's doesn't seem to be as
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  Speaker 2: all in on the plant. Can I stop you there? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: in this moment, I was like, look, Somelmes is not
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  Speaker 2: a bad boy here.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: I think in that particular scene, we see a glimpse
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  Speaker 2: of Solmes has a little bit of a moral compass,
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  Speaker 2: like he's like, what, like, back off? I it redeemed Solmes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm already a Holmes fan, but I feel like maybe
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  Speaker 2: for you that scene might have redeemed Solmes as being
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  Speaker 2: like a decent guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: In last episode I started, you know, we see this
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  Speaker 1: softer side of Solmes as he's falling in love with
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  Speaker 1: Irene and he seems do willing to genuinely care for
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  Speaker 1: her and be willing to do anything for her. That
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  Speaker 1: continues through this episode. And I think because he's fallen
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  Speaker 1: for Irene, he can maybe understand Joe a little bit
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  Speaker 1: and how Joe could have ended up in this situation.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you can't just fall in line and do
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  Speaker 1: what the family expects to.
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  Speaker 3: Do all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Speaking of SLMs for a second, Yeah, I'm this
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  Speaker 2: whole relationship with Irene. I'll get to Irene in a second,
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  Speaker 2: But Solms. I find it fascinating sometimes I'm like, is
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  Speaker 2: he just like fully obsessed with her? Or what is
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  Speaker 2: his motivation here? Oh? I mean, because he's all in,
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  Speaker 2: I'm wondering does he who? Oh? Is he looking at
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  Speaker 2: Irene as a vehicle to bounce because she wants to
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  Speaker 2: go to Paris to dance.
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  Speaker 3: And he says like, we'll go.
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  Speaker 2: How is that going to work? I don't know. But
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  Speaker 2: he's like keep it on the down low, basically remote.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I think maybe he wants to get away
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  Speaker 2: from all of the toxic family stuff, and maybe he
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  Speaker 2: just doesn't have the balls to tell his dad like
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to run this business, even though in
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  Speaker 2: episode one it seemed to me like he was fully in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah ousting joke.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know exactly what's going on there,
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  Speaker 2: but into it Okay, I want to talk about Irene
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  Speaker 2: for a second. Yeah, she has this whole conversation with
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  Speaker 2: Anne and basically admits, like I have concepts of love, yes, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like she's not there yet, like I don't. The actor
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  Speaker 2: who plays Storms is so good looking to me. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how you're not like hypnotized by his
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  Speaker 2: good looks and he is falling all over himself. Even
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  Speaker 2: maybe she's got the ick a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but maybe she's also looking at it
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  Speaker 2: as this is an opportunity for me to go do
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  Speaker 2: what I want to do now. Because one, she doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have any money because they lost all their family money. Right,
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  Speaker 2: she's got she doesn't have any family. Your mom and
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  Speaker 2: dad are dad, She's got the stepmom who's not really
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  Speaker 2: connected to So maybe she sees solms as opportunity. Sure,
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  Speaker 2: and that hurts me a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: But also she.
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  Speaker 2: Seems very mysterious too, Like I'm like, what, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about it in my wishes, So I'll stop
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  Speaker 2: there because it's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Only one wish I have. But she is kind of
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  Speaker 1: a mystery. She is a mystery. Francis Is Stone cold.
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  Speaker 1: In this episode, look true villain. She says that love
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  Speaker 1: has no place in this house. Kill it or face
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  Speaker 1: the consequences.
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  Speaker 3: Yikes.
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  Speaker 1: Now again last episode, I was like, we are on
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  Speaker 1: a collision course with disaster in the show, and Joe.
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  Speaker 3: Can't stay away.
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  Speaker 1: And I understand Joe's motivation, and I feel like he's
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  Speaker 1: trying so hard to.
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  Speaker 3: Do the right thing.
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  Speaker 1: And I appreciate that he stands up in every moment
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  Speaker 1: where people are like, we're gonna pay her off, We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna He's like, no, I'm going to handle this. We're
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  Speaker 1: talking about people. I'm not going to make her uproot
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  Speaker 1: her life. I feel like he's trying so hard to
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  Speaker 1: do the right thing.
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I also feel like he wouldn't be staying away if
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  Speaker 1: Luisa hadn't said to stay away.
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  Speaker 3: Like he tells Francis that was a real love I had.
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  Speaker 1: With her, and I think, you know, he says like
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  Speaker 1: I love you to Francis and he says, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: here for this. I don't remember what his lines are,
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  Speaker 1: but he tells her like, you know, we're gonna make
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  Speaker 1: this work. But I wonder if he would be behaving
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  Speaker 1: differently if Luisa hadn't said stay away, if he'd be like, oh, no,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta decide which one of these women I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: be away?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I do appreciate that Joe is a stand up dude
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  Speaker 2: here he's not. He wants to be part of his
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  Speaker 2: children's lives, and he is standing up to his family.
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  Speaker 2: I hate that his past is being weaponized against him,
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  Speaker 2: Like what is he supposed to do? He's in a
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  Speaker 2: predicament for sure, like he can't time travel back.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I wonder how true.
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  Speaker 2: Of the time is, Meaning would a man in.
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  Speaker 3: This time frame.
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  Speaker 2: Allow his family to pay somebody off and make them go?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I absolutely a family of this stature.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I like I like Joe a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I like him as much as I like Solmes,
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  Speaker 2: to be honest, Like, I'm not like torn between the
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  Speaker 2: I think these are two like decent human beings. Joe
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  Speaker 2: is really, to me a good guy, especially when his
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  Speaker 2: kids are involved.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think the whole Luisa part of it. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: he's probably still obsessed with her.
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  Speaker 2: This was probably one true love and then he had
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  Speaker 2: to go back and family obligation, gets married.
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  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, blah blah blah. Here we are ten
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  Speaker 1: years later. He's in a terrible predicament.
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  Speaker 3: He really is. I like that he is.
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  Speaker 2: Not playing along with the family, with the family wants
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  Speaker 2: yes and part of me with Francis. I don't buy
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  Speaker 2: that he's like totally in love with Francis. I think,
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  Speaker 2: like this is just where he is in.
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  Speaker 3: Life with Francis.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they made a life together. I think he probably
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  Speaker 1: had affection for her. Sure, I think some dog, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: You know, like, I think they made a good life
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  Speaker 1: and she was a good wife to him. And he
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  Speaker 1: has obviously a lot of affection for his stepdaughter, right,
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  Speaker 1: and that was what he was raised to expect. He
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  Speaker 1: wasn't raised to expect a man marriage of.
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  Speaker 3: Love, right.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't he is in a predicament. He's
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  Speaker 1: in a tough spot. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what so far.
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  Speaker 1: I like the way he's behaving, although again I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: afraid for the consequences here.
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  Speaker 3: I really enjoy the comic relief of Monty in spite
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  Speaker 3: of the fact that I.
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  Speaker 1: Hate Monty, I dislike his character. Great work on the
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  Speaker 1: actor's part to make me dislike he's just such a blowhard,
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  Speaker 1: totally pompous. I love that scene we get of Winnifred
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  Speaker 1: in the dress shop where we kind of get a
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  Speaker 1: peek behind the curtain of their marriage and she's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my husband says like, don't spend too much money. Meanwhile
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  Speaker 1: he blows his entire allowance. I was like, Oh, they're
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  Speaker 1: living off the largesse of her family. Yeah, for sure,
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  Speaker 1: because he doesn't have a job, because her dad is
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  Speaker 1: unwilling to employ him because he knows Monty's completely worthless. Right, So,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, the slow mo we get of Monty
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  Speaker 1: when Miss Peaches starts to lose the race and Josie,
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  Speaker 1: You're like, so close.
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  Speaker 3: Mm, so funny.
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  Speaker 1: And then just like the snide remarks they make when
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  Speaker 1: he like comes like blustering into the office and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: give me a brandy, yeah, you know, and he comes
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  Speaker 1: into the boardroom and I'm like, God, you brought him
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  Speaker 1: in solely for the purpose of having another vote on
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  Speaker 1: your side. Now you're gonna have all of these other
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  Speaker 1: consequences of your actions.
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  Speaker 3: Now. I know you didn't watch Succession.
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  Speaker 2: It did not And I had said in previous previous
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: episode that listener Georgia said that this show is Succession
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  Speaker 2: meets the Gilded Age, and I cannot help but draw
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  Speaker 2: a comparison. Monty is totally Tom from Succession. Now, if
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: you guys watch Succession and you know who I'm talking about,
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  Speaker 2: Tom is like the husband of one of the daughters,
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  Speaker 2: and he just like.
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  Speaker 3: He's that bumbling idiot too.
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  Speaker 2: Who at the end of the series spoiler alert inherits
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  Speaker 2: the company. That's why I'm telling you, Tom, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Monty is going to inherit this foresight in company like
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna happen. Oh man, It's funny to watch. Though.
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  Speaker 1: It is funny, especially because James is such a villain.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, yeah, I hope this lows back on him.
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  Speaker 1: I hope James gets what he deserves. Like this is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this is not going to go how he planned.
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  Speaker 1: He's not just going to be his puppet.
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  Speaker 2: There.
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  Speaker 1: Mont's gonna come in there and think that he runs
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  Speaker 1: the place. Give me a Brandy in the day's papers.
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  Speaker 3: You work for me, bitches. Oh my god, I.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Love it all right anymore likes yeah June. Oh, June
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  Speaker 2: is to me one of the strongest stories in this show.
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  Speaker 1: I really enjoy her character. At first, I was like, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: Like she's just this girl who's coming of age. But
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: she is almost like a newer version of Joe and
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  Speaker 1: Solme's right, like more progressive. She's almost like Anne grandmama,
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  Speaker 1: Like yeah, I like that we see all their time together,
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  Speaker 1: like they have their nightly chat.
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  Speaker 3: I really like.
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  Speaker 1: She's more like Joe to me. I think I think
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  Speaker 1: she's pushing against tradition, right, and she wants more than
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  Speaker 1: the life she's being offered. And we see that she's
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  Speaker 1: starting to have feelings for this bosny dude. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: he's obviously not someone her family would choose.
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  Speaker 3: And he knows it just like Louisa knew it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And I like that she goes to his garrett,
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  Speaker 1: his little apartment.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, oh, I love a Garrett.
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  Speaker 1: You know when like an apartment seems so such like
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  Speaker 1: a romantic idea.
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  Speaker 3: I do you wish like we just saw.
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  Speaker 1: Just a tiny little bit of her at that socialism meeting.
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  Speaker 1: I wish we saw more of like the pushback there,
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  Speaker 1: like maybe there's a little protest happening outside or maybe,
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  Speaker 1: like what it seemed too easy for her to just
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: walk right in there. I can't imagine that it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a big deal for this to be happening.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting, but yeah, she's a political renegade. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm waiting for like that to implode between her and
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  Speaker 2: Francis's gonna lose it. Her mom's gonna be like, get
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  Speaker 2: in line, get back in line, girl, Like you need
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  Speaker 2: to represent the family, you know whatever. Anyway, I really
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  Speaker 2: liked you well.
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  Speaker 1: Like Francis says to Joe, see, is it that hard
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  Speaker 1: deciding to move on from them? And I just feel
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  Speaker 1: like she's gonna be like, no, shut it down and
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  Speaker 1: move on. Yeah, that love has no place in this.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, let's talk wishes.
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  Speaker 2: I only have one okay, and I mentioned it earlier.
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  Speaker 2: It is about Irene and I personally, as I'm watching it,
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  Speaker 2: I need a bit more emotional access to what Irene
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  Speaker 2: is thinking.
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  Speaker 3: She's a mystery.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I have no idea what's going on. Look when they
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: come this is not a digitue that, but it is
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: kind of a digits that they when films comes to
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: present like Irene and Clarissa. Yeah, Irene is dressed like
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Mary Poppins.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Oh interesting, it.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Was like this white out with this big yellow bow.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: It just was I just thought that was very bridal
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: and she was wearing white my fair lady.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Oh I yeah know. It was reminded me of something.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I think. She's just so adorable.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: And cute, but I'm like, what what's going on here?
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: She almost you know, she gets cold.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Feet the last minute, you know, she's like, I want
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: all my parents have and am I going to have that?
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: And then we see that scene of her dancing kind
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: of wildly. It's she's like a close up and I
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: was like, what is what is this telling us?
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah? What are your wishes? You know I don't have.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: A ton of wishes. More A question is Joe wearing
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: a T shirt at the end of the show, like
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: he's kind of in pajamas. I'm like, that man's in
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: a white Haynes T shirt and sweats.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Is he in sweat?
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: It was like an athletic pant.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Like, look, his hair is hairing in this episode. I'm like,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: how long?
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: So fine, he's so attractive, but I'm like, how long
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: did they have to blow dry? Like that is just
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: his hair would not look like that. He looks good,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: but he's absolutely in a white T shirt and that
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: would not have been in.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: His life if you be like some bed dress or something.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I don't during this time war, but I think so.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Also, like my notes say, I wanted more time at
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the wedding. I just love that the ceremony chaps. James
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: has asked so much, and I could have handled like
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: sitting in that discomfort a little bit more.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: And only really family there not a social event.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Which is so interesting to me.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Is it that big of a deal that Solmes is
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: marrying a non social climber that they wouldn't have invited
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: anybody but family?
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, that's odd to me.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Question for you, you were enjoying some of the spice.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Would you think of the spice of what we got
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: at the end of this episode?
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: What was it?
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Solmscrys irain off the bed.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I liked it. Yeah, I mean it.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: It gave it, implied spice, implied spice exactly. Yeah, And
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, she's she's going with the flow.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: She wasn't like I don't love you, you know.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I'd like to point out the line Monty leaves the
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: room and James says, does he perform any useful function?
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I also love the fact that June and both and
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the you call each other Miss Renegade and mister buccaneer.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: And he says, you exist to me, Miss Renegade, which
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: she's like, I don't even exist to my family.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: It's great, it was great. I have a question for you, Okay,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I have a couple of discussion questions. Do you think
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Joe can realistically have both a place in the family
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: and a relationship with his children or is he living
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: in an impossible world?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think it's an impossible choice. There's no way
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: this ends peacefully. There's no happily ever after for everybody
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: in this situation.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Now. I felt so bad when the children pulled Joe
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: into like, I don't whatever dancing or whatever is happening
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: in the street, juggling or something. Yeah, and then June
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: sees it, and I was like, oh, how's that feel
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: to jan Because June is his daughter by marriage and
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: the only father she's really ever known, and now she
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: sees oh he is she aware that those are his.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Children at this point? Like does she know? Yeah?
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: She does, because remember in the end of the last episode,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Oh she overhears.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like this was before your mother, et cetera.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, so she's seeing him with these kids. Do you
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: think she feels like a twinge of like yeah, because
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: that's when she runs off to her buccaneer. I know
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: it was just a really good scene. I know it
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: was a really good scene. But you don't think he
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: can have it's gonna a collision course and.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Have it all.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I don't see how he has a relationship with the
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: children without having a relationship with Louisa.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: That's gonna be too hard. And I don't see how the.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Family allows him to have a relationship with the children.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, are we underestimating Francis, I'm not.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I think she's gonna blow this whole thing up. I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: think she's the evilest of them all.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm afraid of her.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: She's the absolute puppet master.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: You know, the way she just taps Joe Senior on
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the shoulder and provides him with information, and the way
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: that they're colluding, and.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: I you know, I don't think Joe.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Is as evil as James, but I think Francis is
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: more evil than both of them. I agree. She also
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: has the most to lose. She's not a foresight. I'm
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: sure there's no community property situation in which she gets
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: alimony for the rest of her life should this go south,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: so she has a lot to lose.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Part of me is like wanting Anta shut that shit down. Yeah, like, no, Francis,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: You're not the Foresight.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: H you know what I mean.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch this.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I'm so excit. Oh.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I also hate that we have already been renewed for
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: a season three, so this is just gonna draw out
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: for years and years and years.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: But I do believe the.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Book was a series of books, so it's really it's
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of stories to tell.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Could it be like years and years and years and
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: century I don't know, decades of Foresights?
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Perhaps I don't know.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know either. I mean, downt nab you did
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: how many seasons?
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Seven?
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Is there gonna be a Foresights movie? I doubt it,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: but I love it. I love the show.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 23:17
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