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- 0:00Speaker 1: Everybody.
- 0:00Speaker 2: It's DJ env Charlamagne the gud We are to breakfast
- 0:04Speaker 2: club Nowhew just joining us.
- 0:05Speaker 3: We're talking about this guy I've been trending on social media.
- 0:09Speaker 4: Now.
- 0:09Speaker 2: He was trending because he went on a date and
- 0:11Speaker 2: it didn't go as planned. He was damn there crying.
- 0:14Speaker 3: Let's see what he said.
- 0:15Speaker 5: So I just left the restaurant after waiting thirty minutes
- 0:17Speaker 5: for a day to show, and apparently I got stood up.
- 0:20Speaker 5: I don't know what to say. I'm trying to do
- 0:23Speaker 5: everything right to be a gentleman. I brought flowers.
- 0:26Speaker 1: I've been consistent talking with this girl for two weeks,
- 0:28Speaker 1: trying to get to know what she likes.
- 0:29Speaker 5: But she doesn't like I made plans. I picked the
- 0:33Speaker 5: restaurant the day of the time. I've done everything to
- 0:35Speaker 5: be just the kind of guy that the value somebody's
- 0:38Speaker 5: signed like. I just I'm just looking for my first
- 0:41Speaker 5: I'm just looking for the one that I guess he's
- 0:43Speaker 5: out there from me. Ladies, tell me what is that
- 0:46Speaker 5: you wrong?
- 0:47Speaker 3: And we're asking eight hundred and five eight five one
- 0:50Speaker 3: oh five one, what's your thoughts?
- 0:51Speaker 1: Now?
- 0:51Speaker 2: Willie D doesn't feel like this guy should have brought
- 0:53Speaker 2: flowers at all. Thought that was the first red flag.
- 0:56Speaker 1: First red flag, second red flag is all that damn crime. Look, man,
- 1:01Speaker 1: don't know women want a dude like that leading them.
- 1:04Speaker 1: I know it's a lot of women who was in
- 1:05Speaker 1: the comments or the dumb meant section making these suggestions
- 1:10Speaker 1: that we should show this guy some sympathy. Poor guy.
- 1:14Speaker 1: That's bad. Those same women would not date that guy
- 1:17Speaker 1: under any circumstances. Bringing. Bringing flowers to a woman on
- 1:21Speaker 1: the first date is a red flag. She probably saw him,
- 1:26Speaker 1: That's why she didn't show up. She probably saw him
- 1:29Speaker 1: from a distance. Had one of her friends who work
- 1:31Speaker 1: at the restaurant, you know, put him on FaceTime or
- 1:35Speaker 1: something and be like that show show, let me see
- 1:37Speaker 1: what this dude like.
- 1:37Speaker 4: What?
- 1:38Speaker 1: Oh girl? And she probably called one of her friends
- 1:40Speaker 1: cause it's crazy. He got some goddamn flowers, a whole
- 1:43Speaker 1: bouquet of flowers. Yeah, flowers is that bad?
- 1:48Speaker 6: Man?
- 1:48Speaker 4: I think it depends on what kind of flowers.
- 1:50Speaker 5: Like.
- 1:50Speaker 7: It's a first date, so I do agree with Williams.
- 1:52Speaker 7: A first date, you know what I mean? So I
- 1:54Speaker 7: might be moving kind of fast, but I don't think
- 1:55Speaker 7: it's a bad gesture. But I just wouldn't bring a
- 1:58Speaker 7: dozen roses. Maybe maybe some two, some lilies.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Some sun something, just you know, because you know it's
- 2:03Speaker 2: it's something nice. I think the starts the date off
- 2:05Speaker 2: in the positive direction. You come pick up or she
- 2:08Speaker 2: come here, you go madys as a bouquet of flowers.
- 2:11Speaker 7: It can't be roses is very sentimental. Romance especially depends
- 2:15Speaker 7: on what color.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Man, This ain't no prime date, bro, it's saying prome.
- 2:18Speaker 1: This is just a regular date.
- 2:21Speaker 5: Man.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been talking to this chick for a couple
- 2:24Speaker 1: of weeks. I'm trying to get to know it. It
- 2:26Speaker 1: is very important that you're not spook a woman that
- 2:29Speaker 1: you first meet. Yeah, you know, after they dated for
- 2:32Speaker 1: a while and they really know each other and she
- 2:34Speaker 1: understands him, he understands her. You know. He can buy
- 2:37Speaker 1: roses anytime. It's great, but you gotta be very careful
- 2:41Speaker 1: because women can easily get spooked.
- 2:43Speaker 4: You think flowers, I don't think.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Can spook a woman because.
- 2:47Speaker 4: They roses will I think a little back of.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Sun flowers isn't roses. Flowers?
- 2:54Speaker 4: Yeah, but roses there.
- 2:55Speaker 7: Different colors mean romantic, Like red means romance means love,
- 2:58Speaker 7: I thought means love and romance.
- 3:00Speaker 4: I forgot what white and all that means.
- 3:01Speaker 1: But I was like some.
- 3:02Speaker 4: Tulips, some lily.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Okay, So if rose is cool, it's diamond stud it rains.
- 3:06Speaker 4: Cool, flowers crazy.
- 3:09Speaker 3: You can get flowers for ten dollars fifteen dollars at Walmart.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Hell no, I'm.
- 3:17Speaker 4: Gonna change the situation right now.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Listen, whether you've got a door right, yeah, and the
- 3:21Speaker 2: gentleman comes to pick up your daughter, you don't want
- 3:23Speaker 2: them to come with some flowers.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Nah, I want them to come with the right attitude.
- 3:27Speaker 1: It's more important. So we're trying to learn each other.
- 3:30Speaker 1: So it's more important that that that you know you
- 3:34Speaker 1: you learn each other and watch each other manner hysms,
- 3:37Speaker 1: and and and and get familiar with one another. That's
- 3:41Speaker 1: the most important thing. I think, you know, like, it
- 3:43Speaker 1: ain't even where you where you take them. It's not
- 3:45Speaker 1: about fancy restaurants and and and and gifts and all
- 3:49Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. It's about the human connection. That's
- 3:52Speaker 1: what it's about. It's not about all that other stuff.
- 3:55Speaker 7: And this is where we get confused that you don't
- 3:56Speaker 7: think the flowers help to open up the human connection.
- 3:59Speaker 4: No, damn A lot of people.
- 4:02Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. You have to really think
- 4:03Speaker 1: when you're doing this, when you're dealing with a woman,
- 4:05Speaker 1: you have to like get out of your feelings. You
- 4:08Speaker 1: got to get out of your emotions and think to yourself,
- 4:11Speaker 1: if I do this, how can she how how might
- 4:15Speaker 1: she interpret it? And you got to take out the
- 4:18Speaker 1: as much wigger room for interpretation as possible.
- 4:21Speaker 4: She might say, Damn, nobody ever gave me tulips before.
- 4:23Speaker 1: All right, this is special, this is nice, something that
- 4:25Speaker 1: nobody ever gave me tuolips before.
- 4:27Speaker 7: This dude is a cornball, Tanya, Yes, what's up to
- 4:32Speaker 7: talk to us with flowers on the first day?
- 4:34Speaker 1: Tanya?
- 4:35Speaker 4: What you think?
- 4:35Speaker 6: Hey, guy, listen, Yes, flowers on the first day.
- 4:40Speaker 8: I mean, it's fine. It's not like it's a big fill.
- 4:44Speaker 8: He did everything right. It's just the only thing that
- 4:48Speaker 8: I felt that he did wrong is he's whining about it.
- 4:51Speaker 8: A woman does not want to hear a man whine.
- 4:54Speaker 4: I think I agree with that.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Yeah, but the flowers, I don't see nothing wrong with it.
- 4:58Speaker 6: This wrong?
- 5:00Speaker 1: What's your name?
- 5:00Speaker 6: Bro?
- 5:01Speaker 8: Just brew from the Bronx.
- 5:02Speaker 4: From the Bronx. What what you bring on that first day?
- 5:05Speaker 3: Bacon?
- 5:05Speaker 7: Egg, and cheese and cheese, bacon, egg and cheese, a
- 5:09Speaker 7: box of backwood, a box cutter.
- 5:12Speaker 8: I want to ask you that question with the flowers.
- 5:15Speaker 6: I think what he is wrong about that.
- 5:17Speaker 8: I think you can give a girl flowers any time
- 5:19Speaker 8: you feel like that's how you feel about it one
- 5:22Speaker 8: day school. It doesn't about him. And if you're a
- 5:27Speaker 8: ladies man, you're gonna do that anyway.
- 5:29Speaker 4: And that's why the bodega cell flowers, right.
- 5:31Speaker 3: And the flowers is cheap at the bodega.
- 5:33Speaker 4: Stop hanging up on people.
- 5:34Speaker 3: Hello, who's this you know this morning?
- 5:36Speaker 8: Can you hear me?
- 5:37Speaker 3: I can hear you.
- 5:37Speaker 5: Now.
- 5:38Speaker 3: What's your thoughts mind, Susie?
- 5:40Speaker 4: What you think about flowers on the first day? Susie,
- 5:42Speaker 4: I think that that was a good jest, like four three,
- 5:46Speaker 4: hold of that Geechee and yourself. You know, we were romant,
- 5:48Speaker 4: were romantic from the.
- 5:52Speaker 7: On the mask already know, yeah, talking man, But I
- 5:56Speaker 7: think like that was my thing for him to do,
- 5:59Speaker 7: was to bring the flower.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Was that was her all? Okay?
- 6:01Speaker 4: I agree? See, we were romantic in the low country.
- 6:04Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Willie just made all the
- 6:07Speaker 4: floors in Texas lose money.
- 6:08Speaker 1: This morning, say I'm I'm I'm a romantic guy too,
- 6:13Speaker 1: but I believe that romance have to be earned. I'm
- 6:17Speaker 1: not just giving them any chick romance, Like, yeah, we're
- 6:20Speaker 1: gonna have a conversation first, let me see if you
- 6:23Speaker 1: are deserving, just like a woman shouldn't give any man romance.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I think all that that's levels to it, and and
- 6:30Speaker 1: and if and if it don't work out, whatever's left
- 6:33Speaker 1: is better than whatever left.
- 6:35Speaker 3: Rod, what's your thoughts, Rod?
- 6:36Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I will.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Will you did?
- 6:38Speaker 1: Man?
- 6:39Speaker 6: First off? First off, you gotta set up the date.
- 6:42Speaker 6: There's something that you want to be doing yourself. If
- 6:44Speaker 6: somebody don't show up, you can still do you. Number
- 6:48Speaker 6: two never Shunty's much better nowadays as far as women
- 6:52Speaker 6: appreciate it like that, they gotta you gotta make a work.
- 6:56Speaker 1: To earn that.
- 6:57Speaker 6: You know, you gotta you gotta get out there and use.
- 7:00Speaker 8: Your mouth piece.
- 7:01Speaker 6: At first she would say about something, and then after
- 7:04Speaker 6: that you could aculate to get get us and get flowers.
- 7:07Speaker 7: I don't think we should, uh let let women dictate
- 7:11Speaker 7: how we move as romantics, meaning that if I'm the
- 7:14Speaker 7: type of person that like to bring a woman flowers,
- 7:16Speaker 7: I'm gonna just bring the woman flowers.
- 7:18Speaker 4: Now she messed that up. Then we don't go, no,
- 7:20Speaker 4: you won't go no further than the flowers in this day.
- 7:22Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, but you see how it ended for
- 7:25Speaker 1: him crying on the internet. See see, so we could
- 7:29Speaker 1: say all this stuff that we want to, but but
- 7:31Speaker 1: if we look at that, we've looked at these situations
- 7:35Speaker 1: in general, this this is usually the result. You know,
- 7:39Speaker 1: there is a such thing as a guy being too
- 7:43Speaker 1: kind too fast. Too kind too fast is a red flag.
- 7:47Speaker 7: And I think this is the thing that what that
- 7:49Speaker 7: lady said about the wine and is important because I
- 7:51Speaker 7: feel like he had a sense of entitlement, you know
- 7:53Speaker 7: what I mean, even though he did get stood up,
- 7:56Speaker 7: like what if something happened, like do your mind, don't
- 7:58Speaker 7: even go to maybe something.
- 8:00Speaker 3: But it seems like this, it seems like he's been
- 8:03Speaker 3: stead up numerous times.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Come on, That's what I'm saying a lot of times
- 8:09Speaker 1: these guys. I heard some people saying that, well, you see,
- 8:14Speaker 1: this is what happens when you do guys stuff, do
- 8:17Speaker 1: stuff like this, the guys they end up being mass murderer,
- 8:20Speaker 1: serial killers and rapists and all this kind of stuff.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Because people pick on them, bully them. Let me tell
- 8:26Speaker 1: you something, man, If being rejected is going to make
- 8:31Speaker 1: you that you're a chump, you a sucker. Anyway, Look, man,
- 8:35Speaker 1: the greater there have been greater men than us who
- 8:38Speaker 1: have been rejected and picked themselves up, dust themselves off,
- 8:42Speaker 1: and kept it moving. You get rejected, man, you keep
- 8:45Speaker 1: it moving. And if you aw that what you think
- 8:47Speaker 1: you are, then it's her loss anyway.
- 8:49Speaker 2: But we'll take some more calls eight hundred and five
- 8:51Speaker 2: eighty five one o five one. But really, I will
- 8:53Speaker 2: say that's that's today's society.
- 8:55Speaker 3: And that's part of the problem, right.
- 8:56Speaker 2: Because before you know, you get rejected, what your pops
- 8:59Speaker 2: or or your family tell you do you go back
- 9:01Speaker 2: out there and try and get suck it up. Same
- 9:03Speaker 2: thing if you get into a bully. Let's say you
- 9:05Speaker 2: got a problem with a bully, what did your pops do?
- 9:07Speaker 2: You go fight that bully. If you lose, you go
- 9:09Speaker 2: fight him again. You go fight him again. All you
- 9:11Speaker 2: learn if he's making fun of you, learn how to
- 9:12Speaker 2: make fun of him back. It was never to the
- 9:14Speaker 2: point where you gotta go cry because your family wasn't
- 9:17Speaker 2: gonna allow it.
- 9:18Speaker 3: Now I feel like a lot of times we put
- 9:21Speaker 3: gloves hand.
- 9:22Speaker 2: We hear massides these kids with gloves where they feel
- 9:25Speaker 2: like it's the end of the world when they get
- 9:26Speaker 2: talked about, feel like it's the end.
- 9:29Speaker 7: Of the world, when they get dissed on a date.
- 9:31Speaker 7: The only thing I don't agree with is that whole
- 9:32Speaker 7: bully thing. I always thought that was a lie. Somebody
- 9:34Speaker 7: beat your ass good one time, you ain't going back
- 9:36Speaker 7: and put you to go back.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Well, well, the thing about it is that if you
- 9:43Speaker 1: fight a bully, typically, if you fight a bully and
- 9:46Speaker 1: you fight back, you usually don't have to deal with
- 9:49Speaker 1: that because bullies don't like resistance. Bullies like easy targets.
- 9:53Speaker 1: They like soft targets. And this is why it's important
- 9:57Speaker 1: when somebody bullies you iportant to stand up for yourself
- 10:01Speaker 1: the first time, because if you don't, you're teaching them
- 10:04Speaker 1: that it's okay to belly.
- 10:05Speaker 7: So you don't think that man stood up for himself
- 10:07Speaker 7: on the internet by whining like that, No, no, stop
- 10:10Speaker 7: playing with me.
- 10:10Speaker 4: No.
- 10:10Speaker 1: I think he laid down for himself and he did
- 10:13Speaker 1: himself for a huge disservice. And no woman, no woman,
- 10:17Speaker 1: that's really a boy. Something would want appro create with
- 10:20Speaker 1: a dude like that, what is he gonna teach his
- 10:22Speaker 1: boy to cry harder? Look, Dad, your cry was weak.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Look at my cry? Dad. You know what I'm saying.
- 10:28Speaker 1: All that No man, get on up out of here
- 10:30Speaker 1: with the woman.
- 10:31Speaker 4: They stop all that crime.
- 10:32Speaker 1: Man, stop all that, and not just him, all you
- 10:35Speaker 1: other dudes, you newscasters. I've been seeing news. I've been
- 10:38Speaker 1: wanting to say this for a long time. You news
- 10:40Speaker 1: casters out here. All this damn crime. Stop all that
- 10:43Speaker 1: I'm talking about, specifically black men.
- 10:46Speaker 4: Stop all that damn crime.
- 10:48Speaker 3: Man.
- 10:49Speaker 1: You know, like, it's a time and a place for everything.
- 10:52Speaker 1: I'm not one of those dudes who subscribe to the
- 10:54Speaker 1: concept that men should not cry. I'm not that dude.
- 10:58Speaker 1: But there's a time and place for everything, and we
- 11:01Speaker 1: have to learn to control our emotions. If that's two
- 11:03Speaker 1: things that a man must control in order to operate
- 11:06Speaker 1: at his optimum, it is his emotions and his penis.
- 11:10Speaker 1: We gotta learn to control that. If you can do that, man,
- 11:13Speaker 1: you can.
- 11:13Speaker 3: Rule eight hundred five eight five one oh five. One
- 11:16Speaker 3: will take some more calls.
- 11:17Speaker 2: It's to breakfast Clogo morning, the breakfast club, the breakfast club.
- 11:23Speaker 4: Your morning's will never be the same morning.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Everybody is DJ NV, Charlamagne, the gud. We are the
- 11:30Speaker 2: breakfast club. Now if you're just joining us, we're talking
- 11:33Speaker 2: about this video that went viral about this man that
- 11:35Speaker 2: we're on a date.
- 11:36Speaker 1: It was his first day.
- 11:37Speaker 2: He brought flowers. He got stoed up, he was crying.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Will he d said, well, he shouldn't have brought flowers.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Flowers is too early. You don't understand why, right, So
- 11:46Speaker 2: we're taking your calls. Eight hundred five, eight five, one
- 11:48Speaker 2: oh five. One of course WILLI did is our guest
- 11:49Speaker 2: co host this morning Me shit, good morning, me shit,
- 11:54Speaker 2: good morning, good morning.
- 11:57Speaker 3: What's your thoughts? Misha like he was wrong for bringing
- 12:01Speaker 3: her flowers?
- 12:02Speaker 6: It was nothing wrong with that?
- 12:04Speaker 3: Or you don't see nothing wrong with that?
- 12:06Speaker 8: No, flowers are not expensive and it's a good gesture.
- 12:10Speaker 7: Yeah, I think as long as they're not roses, I
- 12:11Speaker 7: think it's cool. What if you would have brought her
- 12:14Speaker 7: brought her a pair of red bottoms? That's a little
- 12:17Speaker 7: too far, that's wow. I like sweet flowers seven to
- 12:20Speaker 7: ten dollars bottoms of a committed might be like, yeah,
- 12:24Speaker 7: but what woman ain't going to accept those red bottoms?
- 12:27Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 12:27Speaker 7: But I wouldn't do that. That's it, that's doing too much.
- 12:29Speaker 7: Because I'm a woman. I'm looking at do you do
- 12:32Speaker 7: this all the time? You just randomly give people red
- 12:34Speaker 7: bottom flowers a.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Little randomly, just give people flowers.
- 12:37Speaker 7: Flowers are different tho, because you can just give them
- 12:39Speaker 7: a person just because you want to light up their life.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Flowers are a sentimental gesture. Being sentimental to a woman
- 12:46Speaker 1: should be earned. It should be something earned. If you
- 12:49Speaker 1: give her to give it to her too fast, she's
- 12:51Speaker 1: not going to appreciate it. The same thing with you
- 12:54Speaker 1: don't pay for the meal, give it to it too fast.
- 12:56Speaker 1: We're not you don't pay for the meal, pay for
- 12:59Speaker 1: the meal. That's you know what I'm saying. I would,
- 13:01Speaker 1: I would do that. I mean, I mean, I'm I'm
- 13:03Speaker 1: I'm old school in the sense that that that that
- 13:07Speaker 1: I do believe that men pay for everything. Women are
- 13:09Speaker 1: h paragamut. You know what I'm saying, Like, I believe
- 13:11Speaker 1: in that. Mad you know, I'm cool with that. I
- 13:13Speaker 1: have no problem with that.
- 13:14Speaker 3: And it was going on, good morning morning, Matt, what's
- 13:16Speaker 3: your thoughts?
- 13:16Speaker 1: Brother?
- 13:17Speaker 8: Hey, so, first of all, everybody flowers, I'm not vering
- 13:22Speaker 8: her flowers on the first day, and first of all,
- 13:23Speaker 8: I'm not thinking. And then if we're gonna go to
- 13:25Speaker 8: a coffee that or something like, it's a talk and
- 13:27Speaker 8: get to go each other in the pumping space if
- 13:29Speaker 8: you're safe, and that's it. Before I got married, every
- 13:32Speaker 8: day that I had we went to Barnes and Nobles.
- 13:34Speaker 8: We could see what kind of books you're in, and
- 13:36Speaker 8: if you want a coffee, I got your head the
- 13:38Speaker 8: stone bus. That ain't nothing bee, and then.
- 13:40Speaker 4: I liked going to Night's Day afterwards. I'm gonna be
- 13:42Speaker 4: honest with you. I think that's more. I think going
- 13:44Speaker 4: to Barnes and Nobles is very intimate.
- 13:46Speaker 3: But you but you know what.
- 13:47Speaker 2: The guy also said he was talking to her for
- 13:48Speaker 2: the last two weeks. I guess on the phone.
- 13:50Speaker 3: I guess he was. He gave the initial conversations.
- 13:52Speaker 2: He said he was feeling around to see what she liked,
- 13:54Speaker 2: but she didn't like, so he was already doing the
- 13:56Speaker 2: initial conversations.
- 13:57Speaker 7: I hope some of y'all keeping notes, because I you know,
- 13:59Speaker 7: even though Willie did, I think bringing a woman flowers
- 14:01Speaker 7: on the first day is cool, but also that Bonds
- 14:03Speaker 7: and Nobles thing is dope. Meeting a woman that bonds
- 14:05Speaker 7: and nobles and y'all just having a conversation that bonds
- 14:08Speaker 7: and noble, y'a can talk about what kind of books
- 14:09Speaker 7: y'all like and stuff like that. That's that's cool and
- 14:11Speaker 7: it's very cost effective. What's the moral of the story, Oh,
- 14:15Speaker 7: the moil of the story?
- 14:15Speaker 5: Man?
- 14:16Speaker 7: I really want y'all to listen to me, because you
- 14:18Speaker 7: know everybody's looking for somebody.
- 14:20Speaker 4: I understand that, So please listen to me. Please, are
- 14:22Speaker 4: y'all listening?
- 14:23Speaker 7: Okay, just because you haven't found the right person doesn't
- 14:29Speaker 7: mean you will not mistake