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Unlocking Potential: Sports Training with Andrew Wright | GW Girl's HC Pat Jones · Let's Talk with Carl Lee

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Yeah, you gotta work. You gotta work, hy Son. It's mine
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gotta show everybody is my sign here you gotta work, cry Son. Another
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mind whom saga dog day line, don't tell you gotta work. Let the
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conversation begin. This is Let's Talk with your host Carl Lee. Hello,
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ladies and gentlemen. This is Carllee with Let's Talk and my co host here
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today is Hollis Lewis, as everybody knows, and we have a we have
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a great we have a great guest for a great topic. Today. We
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have Andrew Wright, who is the owner and operator of Alpha Prime Fitness,
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which is based out of Hurricane Correct. Correct. And Andrew is a biomedical
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scientist with over twenty five years of experi in the field of medicine, physical
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fitness, and bodybuilding. I'm interested in that, Okay, So for I'm
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going to open it this way, Hollis. We have a lot of kids,
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a lot of adults that train. They figure out what they want to
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do, how they want to do it, and they go out and they
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start to train and they use that as you know, that's what's going to
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make me better. But then on the other side, I think the newest
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thing that I think has happened happening is games. I want more games.
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I want to play well in a game. Games are the thing that are
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going to make me, make me better. But before we go and jump
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into all of that, because I'm curious to see what you what you think
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about those types of things, but I think at the core of everything is
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the nutrition piece. Correct people, what you eat and how you eat,
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all of those things matter. So introduced to let's say I've got I've got
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a kid, he's training, he's playing, he's doing all this. We
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don't have no nutritional plan. And does that matter for younger athletes? Yes?
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Okay, So one of the biggest problems in the entire industry with regards
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to physical fitness. Uh, any endeavor you enter into to change your body,
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whether it be as an athlete, uh, someone just trying to lose
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weight, someone trying to cure diabetes, okay, anything, Okay, Well,
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you're trying to improve the condition or health of your body. Okay.
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Nutrition should be the absolute foundational aspect of it. And what aggravates me personally
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is a professional in the industry with regards to student athletes at the junior high,
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middle school or high school level, is that it's not even really considered.
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You know, they're still eating super donuts and pizza, you know,
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for breakfast and lunch. But if you do go to the elite university level,
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they understand this. Like when I went to WVU and studied exercise physiology
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up there, when I would go to the commons area to eat, you
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know, you had a meal plan when you lived at towers up there at
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WVU, there was a normal people line and then there was the football player
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line. Yep, right, yeah, and the football players had a very
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specific nutrition plan that they had to follow. So it's understood that the university
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level that all of the training, all the preparation, all of the high
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impact activity that they place on the human body, if there is not a
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foundational nutritional approach given, then the body will tear down and injuries will take
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place, and progress is not only improbable, it's impossible. Well, let
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me ask this question. I've got a eleven year old, okay, and
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we're playing sports, we may even be traveling, we may be doing all
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of those kinds of things, and sometimes what we do is we eat we
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eat out, you know, after the game or you know, any of
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that. We haven't prepped any kind of food prior to the weekend of the
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game. It's getting started. Yes, what am I risking with my child?
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Okay? Well, when you add in the fact that it's a child,
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Okay, you have to understand from a biology perspective, from a health
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perspective, their organs are still growing, their bones are still growing. From
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an adult perspective, we're done, you know, right, you know where
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we are, where we are going to be, right, our you know,
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our bone plates, you know, the growth plates in our bones are
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fused. Organs are predominantly the size they're going to be. But if you
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take a child that's especially at the age of eleven, where they're just now
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going through puberty, and you place all that stress on their body when their
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body is trying to figure out hormone balance, when they're trying to figure out
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you know that the body's trying to figure things out during this time. To
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simplify things, okay, how tall someone's going to be, all these things,
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all these things within their DNA are It's like a big chemical biochemical soup
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that's taking place, and all these biochemical reactions are taking place that is for
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their growth so that is the that is an even bigger aspect with regards to
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this that does not apply to adults. So you're giving less consideration nutrition to
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children when in reality they should get more because they're still maturing, they're still
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growing. So you know, does training stunt your growth? Technically no,
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But with regards to what that question usually is asking. When people ask that
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question to me, what they're usually asking is height. That's all they're asking
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about is height. Will it's stunt their height? Will they not get as
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tall if they start lifting weights? No, it's not going to have an
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impact on how much bone they produce. Okay. However, if you are
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in a nutritional deficit, whether it be amino acids, which are the building
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blocks of protein, whether it be healthy fatty acids, essential fatty acids,
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okay, whether it be minerals required for bone deposition. Right, So,
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you have these things in your bones called osteoblasts, and they bring minerals in
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from your blood to form new bone tissue. If you do not have the
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proper mineral composition in your blood at the time when those biochemical reactions are trying
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to take place, then those biochemical reactions will not occur. And you are
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by default stunting that children's development. I would rather use the word developed development
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as opposed to growth. So actually, proper nutrition at an early age can
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enhance, potentially hance athletic ability and development and things of that nature exactly.
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And one of the things with this is if we back up a little bit,
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and let's just simplify this. Okay, we have five children, all
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right, same age. Okay, Let's say they have pretty much the same
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athletic ability and same genetic predisposition to success in a certain sport. And they're
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at that age of eleven or twelve. We're talking about males, let's say,
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okay, and they're going through that developmental stage of puberty and all these
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things. Now you have four of them, okay that I would even go
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so far as to say, we have five identical twins, so their DNA
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is exactly the same. Okay, So they're exactly the same, They're basically
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the same individual. Okay, And you take four of them and you do
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what normal parents, normal school systems, normal coaches do with is basically a
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complete randomization to nutritional intake. It is completely random, and random is insane
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when you're trying to talk about health, okay, especially when you're talking about
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advanced athletics. So you take one of the five and you at him on
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a very specific, not caloric intake, a nutritional intake, where they have
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the exact same level of essential amino acids coming every day, the exact same
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level of essential fatty asses coming every day. You time the carbohydrates around their
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training sort they're having the proper carbohydrates the proper times. You keep track of
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the child's body fat, You keep track of the child's athletic performance. You
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write everything down like a science experiment. You give him everything that you've got.
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When you get to the end of five years, who do you think
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is going D one? Probably that kid's number number five? Yeah, right,
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exactly. So So if if we know that, if that's common sense,
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then why do we give almost zero consideration to prepping a child's nutritional intake?
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Don't don't I was going to say, I think it's because we don't
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think about it. You know that parent doesn't think about it. We think
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it's all about the crossover, all about the touchdown passes, training and all
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of that. I think the mistake that we all have made and are continuously
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making is we're thinking that that d one opportunity is more about me regardless of
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what I eat. You know, I'm out there training. I'm running in
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the morning, I'm lifting in the evening, and I'm and then playing travel
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ball and playing football, and I'm doing all these kind of things, getting
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tape, you know, getting on film so somebody can see me. And
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I'm not at all as the adult or the child it's called the athlete is
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even thinking about the nutritional piece. Just take me to Wendy's on the way
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home and get me a bit. I think it's education because I don't think,
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like I said, we been athletes. Are all three of us have
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been athletes our whole lives and for us to I could tell you, like,
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I've never even considered that. Obviously when I was older at college,
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you consider those things, but as like being a coach and you're talking about
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young athletes and in my own daughters, like, I never really considered that
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as far as in relation to athletic development, because I guess the theory of
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the thought process as well was they're young, they even they want the burning
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off. It's don't really affecting maybe until you get a little older, and
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we see kind of those habits compound on themselves. But I never consider as
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far as in a development stage. Yeah, and when I when I have
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parents bring me their their kids to train, and I have quite a few
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kids that I've trained over the years to improve their sports performance. This is
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this is what I like to explain to them, especially the kids, Like
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you still need to be a kid, okay, Like you still need to
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be able to eat your taco bell when you want it, okay, but
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have that in addition to require nutritional intake. Have nutritional intake in there.
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Have your nutrition down to where you know what you're eating for meal one meal,
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two meal, three meal, four meal, five. You need to
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have regular intervals of nutritional intake throughout the day for your body to be supplied
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with all of the building blocks required. I think it is absolute insanity to
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approach this the way that you guys are talking about. And again, it's
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not your fault, it's not the parent's fault. But if you think that
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you're twelve years old, thirteen years old and you're gonna stay up on night
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play an Xbox and you're gonna eat super donuts for breakfast and you're gonna drink
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Mountain dew all day, and you're gonna get some taco bell for lunch,
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and you're gonna have pizza for dinner or whatever mom and pop cooks when you
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get home, okay, and you're gonna live that type of lifestyle. And
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then once you get to a D one school, then you'll do D one
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level stuff. That's like saying, I'm gonna go to the NFL and I'm
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gonna live like an NFL player once I get to the NFL. No,
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the people that get to the NFL start living like they're already an NFL superstar
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when they're like fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old. You know as well
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as I do. The kid that is a terror is the kid that is
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like going home, He's doing all the extra work. He's watching what he's
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eating, he's drinking water, he doesn't drink pop. He's the guy that
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does the extra stuff. That's the story everywhere you go, right exactly,
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Well, like you mentioned before we went on there, you mentioned me in
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high school. Right, It's just like what was I doing? Like I
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was already a body skin milk, eggs, chicken, no skin, right,
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and I was doing that when I was thirteen forty years old because I
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wanted to be a bodybuilder. I wanted to be like Arnold, right,
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So I started living that lifestyle. Then when all the other kids were going
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out, staying out all night, and I was like, I can.
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I got to be in bed tend I have to get sleep. And also,
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in addition to athletic development, body development, different things of that nature,
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there's probably some mental benefits to like you said, and I think getting
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sleep is probably probably number two next to nutrition. We don't necessarily think about
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so we talk about getting proper nutrition, getting sleep, that probably helps you
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your mental aspect as well. So let's let's talk about this from a science
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perspective because I like to kind of break it down that way because a lot
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of people don't think of it that way. Unfortunately I don't. And let
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me jump in right there. Yes, I don't think that there there is
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the concept of the parent and the and the athlete him or herself, even
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consider they don't know, They don't consider that there is a science behind this
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whole process. They they think it is it is score a bunch of touchdowns,
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shoot a bunch of threes, and get six four, and we're on
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I think they considered the science. I don't think they can consider the complete
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science because what we've talked about is the athlete when because when you're training and
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you're doing all this stuff, there's a science to that. But I think
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there's another level of science when we're not considering I'll maybe maybe I may give
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you that, but go ahead, go ahead. I'll go so far as
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to say this. I was recently in the bathroom and I heard a personal
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trainer speak and talking to a guy, and I just overheard this one personal
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trainer say, uh, you just have to get strong and eat. It's
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not science, okay, and that It just blew my brain right out of
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the top of my head, okay. And I went home and I thought
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about making a post about all of the science top subjects that I studied going
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through college, right and all of the way that all the ways that those
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sciences directly apply to getting in shape or sports specific training. And then I
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decided it would be way more easiest to make the statement, I dare anyone
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out there to show me one facet of this that is not somehow based in
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some scientific discipline. All of it is science. Every single thing involved with
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this is somehow based in some discipline within the realm of science in ways that
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people don't even conceptualize. Okay, Like, here's one that drives me crazy
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that you guys might be interested in. So if I bring you a twelve
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year old, right, and he wants to play quarterback, okay, and
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you're going to coach him, Okay, what are one of the things that
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you're going to have him do? Skill development? Right? Work all that.
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Now, have any of you ever seen anyone at the high school,
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middle school level take the same football players enter the weight room and work on
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actual skill development of proper execution of each exercise you mean exercise specifically for the
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No, do the bench press correctly so it doesn't damage or sho graduints right,
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so that it actually stimulates muscle growth, right, and when something they
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try But I don't know if they know what they're talking about, cause I
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don't know. But well, that's what we talked about on the phone.
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The other yah, is one of the biggest problems in this industry, okay,
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is not the lack of knowledge. It is the illusion of knowledge.
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It is people that think they know. If they don't, they don't purposefully
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go out and say I'm going to do this wrong and I'm going to teach
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these kids wrong, or I'm going to train my clients wrong, I'm going
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to train my athletes wrong. They think that they know what they're doing.
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It's not their fault. But the problem is is that most people in this
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industry are not qualified. They're not qualified to have the positions that they have.
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I'm not saying everybody, but it is a predominant plague in this industry.
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I mean most personal I mean the personal training industry in itself is a
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nightmare. I mean it is completely unregulated and if you have certifications. So
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I'm just going to put this out there. This is going to probably anger
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some people. But if you have a personal trainer out there right now,
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they're certified by the issa OKA or NASM. Okay, if they have any
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personal training certification that's not ACE, the American Council of Exercise or the American
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College of Supports Medicine, you need to fire them because almost every personal training
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certification that you can get out there is just a money grab where they give
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you some books. You got to pay six hundred bucks to get the books
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and then once you're ready, you get to take an online exam from home
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that's open book, and if you get seventy percent, you get a certificate
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that says you're a certified personal trainer. And that is insane because what we
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actually do in this field is the equivalent of what an athletic trainer should do.
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And this distinction between personal trainer and athletic trainer should be made because athletic
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trainers are educated. They have a bachelor's degree in some type of exercise science
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or some science discipline, and they have to work under the supervision of a
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physician. Personal training is completely unregulated. It's a Wild West show and I'm
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surrounded by We're all surrounded by personal trainers on a daily basis, people in
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this field that are not qualified and they're not even certified. And if you're
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out there right now and working with a personal trainer, I challenge you to
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ask your personal trainer, who are you certified by? And can I see
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that certification with an ACE or American Council College of Sports Medicine. You have
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to take a Procter exam, like you have to go to a testing facility
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and take a Procter exam and is it is one hundred and fifty questions and
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at the end there's specific questions you have to answer on program design, like
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here's a situation with a client that comes in. You have to design a
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program. You have to write it out, and if you get it wrong,
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you don't get certified, and you have to do continuing education credits.
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And that's that's important distinction. I'm glad you said that because I was unaware
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that. So you mentioned programming. So it's obviously we talk a lot about
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football in the show. So if you had, like, let's say I
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don't Let's say a wide receiver parent comes to you. They're going into the
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ninth grade. Pretty good, I mean, we've got a pretty good athlete
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here, but we want to take it to the next level. Like what
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what what are your what are your just general thoughts without knowing specifics of how
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you would develop that program and kind of what what you're looking for and what
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you would do with him. Well, the first thing I would do is
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I would do some some testing. Okay, so have them in for a
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consultation and I would get detailed history, medical history. I take some measurements
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their body fat and I know I do some athletic testing with regards there you
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said medical history, medical history, Wow, okay, you gotta do medical
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history on these people, because you don't never heard of that. No,
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no, no, I've never heard what happens to anybody who's asking that.
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No No, I'm saying that's a good yeah, obvious trainer as that I
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don't either. Well, no, no, you have to do that.
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Like like, I won't train anybody unless they come in for a consult first,
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because I've got to know what I'm working with. And there's plenty of
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times where some people have come in and you know, they want to prove
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their golf swing or something like that, and I'm like, okay, that's
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great, man. You know this is outside of my scope of practice.
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You to go see Randy Gillispie, who's a friend of mine, who's uh,
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he's got multiple college degrees in education. Does he travels to California,
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Florida, goes a seminars to learn how to be better at his craft.
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He's amazing at what he does. Right. And conversely, if somebody wants
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to you know, you know, get in shape, beat diabetes, or
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you know, maybe do a bodybuilding contests or certain things. He's of course
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going to send them to me. So it's like you have to know what
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you're dealing with. It's not a one size fits all situation. Now,
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there are foundational principles that apply to the entire species. Okay, and you
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can start there. But aside from that, okay, you have to be
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able to sit down with the wide receiver. Let's say, like, okay,
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like you know, do you have you know, one thing I would
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ask, do you have any X rays of your of your femurs. I
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want to know how much growth you know do you have? Well, I
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mean his growth place, his growth plates refused. You know, we need
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to take this into consideration because we don't want to mess that up because if
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he gets a break at his growth plate on one of his femurs, okay,
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and it doesn't heal correctly, then one leg is going to be shorter
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than the other. Right, These these are things that you know, are
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thinking outside of the box type situations that people should think about. But to
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answer your question, holisodics, you know it got off track there, but
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uh, first thing we would be a medical history. Now I would want
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the parent in there too, and I'll be talking to the parent. I'm
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like, Okay, what what are you going to be able to do for
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me with regards to the nutrition, because the kid's not going to do it,
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you know, like the parent has to be has to be in on
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it, so to speak. Yeah, they have to be involved because if
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the parent isn't, you know, that's like my eyes and ears right,
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Like I talk to the parent, I'm like, your job is to make
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sure they get all this food in. Because you have to understand from a
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medical and a science perspective, the training is merely the stimulus that instructs the
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body to adapt. What we're doing, whether we're doing resistance training, whether
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we're doing speed agility training where they're doing skill development, what we're trying to
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do is to play stress on the physiology to trigger an adaptive response. Okay,
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speed increase is an adaptive to stress. Strength increase is an adaptation to
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stress. Muscular hypotrophy, which is muscle growth, is an adaptation to stress.
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Increases in aerobic endurance. Anaerobic endurance their adaptations to stress. So we
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have to take the individual, place the stress on the individual, trigger adaptation,
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then place the individual in the correct environment for that adaptation to occur.
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If the environment is not conducive to the adaptation to occurring, it will not
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occur. It doesn't matter how good the training is. It doesn't matter how
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well or how hard the kid trains. If he goes home, it's the
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equivalent. I like to use the analogy of You've hired the greatest construction crew
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in the world to build your skoscreen, and they show up the work five
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days a week, and when they get there, they don't have any bricks,
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they don't have any mortar, they don't have any glass, they don't
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have any concrete. How are you going to build your skyscraper. You've already
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put in all the work, You've paid them in advance, but when they
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get to work, they don't have any raw materials to do the building.
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And that's what nutrition is. And seeing and and and an interesting component was
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running through my head as you were saying all that is. I you know,
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I see a lot of people, you know, training their kids in
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skills, specific things, right, which is super important, right. I
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mean, you got to be able to throw the football, catch football,
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to shoot the ball, dribble, do all those kind of things, right,
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But the actual training the actual training aspect of it of the athlete by
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himself or herself, that's more critical, or at least it feels to me
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now and hearing this that is more important than me in the three right,
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you know, you know, And it's different. I could go out and
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say, and I always have said, I wanted to do a dB clinic
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because I want to teach like things like the bump and run and all that
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kind of stuff. But in that teaching that is not that is not training,
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you know what I'm saying, that's not training. That and that,
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and because I can show you how to do it, teach you how to
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do it. There's a whole host of things that you need to do that
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is nutritional right off the top, and and and and again, depending on
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how old you are and the development that you where you are in your development
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phase is critical right to your ability to be able to actually do those things
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at a level right that is any let's just say that whatever the next level
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up is for you to make that transition, that's going to be difficult without
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nutrition, the right nutrition. And then again once we get into the actual
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talking about the actual training aspect of it, right, I'm sure that you
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know that, but that that's a that's a big issue too. And let
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me ask you this as far as Okay, so we got this kid,
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it's fifteen, he's coming in, parents are there. So nutritionally, where
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where does that kid start? Because they've been eating with everybody. You said,
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the super Donuts, the pizza, taco bell, it'd be eating regular
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American diet. Where do they start nutritionally to turn that around? Okay,
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So let's let's start from the top. I'm just gonna run some stuff down
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for you. Okay. There are three micronutrients, okay, that that are
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available. Okay. There are proteins, carbohydrates, and there are fats.
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Okay. Now, we are the only country in the world that follows the
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Food God pyramid. The Food God pyramid tells us that we need sixty no
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excuse me, seventy five percent of our colork in daily needs to come from
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carbohydrate. And that's all. Sorry, you were correct. We all follow
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that, right, right. So, and the reason is this, Okay,
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So when you talk about the macronutrients, okay, the three you have
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protein. Now, protein, when it's digested, protein is broken down into
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multiple things called polypeptides. The polypeptides are then broke down into singular peptides.
25:18
Those peptides are basically a long string of amino acids that are formed together by
25:25
peptide bonds, okay, and do through digestion, those bonds are chemically broken
25:30
and those amino acids are solely released under our bloodstring. The amino acids are
25:34
the actual nutrient that we need, and there's a list of essential amino acids
25:40
that we have to have as a species for human cellular function, there's a
25:44
biological hierarchy. It's sell tissue organ organ system than organism. For the organism
25:48
to be healthy, the organ systems have to function at optimal levels. For
25:52
the organ systems to function at optimal levels, all of the organs within that
25:56
organ system have to function at optimal levels. And for that to occur,
26:00
all the tissues that comprise each individual organ have to work at optimal levels.
26:06
And for that to happen, all of the cells have to function at optimal
26:10
levels. So you should feed the body based on cellular function with regards to
26:15
our species, and the information is out there. I didn't invent this stuff.
26:18
I just spent all this time figuring it out right. So the way
26:21
that it works is we have a specific list of essential amino acids. And
26:25
when I say that phrase essential, it means two things essential to human cellular
26:29
function. Our system cannot independently self produce these things. We can't self produce
26:34
them, but we have to have them for human cells to function optimally.
26:38
So they're also essential to our nutrition plan. If we don't have them,
26:44
the cells aren't healthy, and in the order they go all the way back
26:45
up the chain, the organism can't function at one hundred percent optimal levels.
26:48
Now that applies to the essential fatty acids as well. Right now, there
26:52
is no such thing as essential glucose. Right now, Why am I saying
26:56
glucose. I'm not picking dextro or fructose or any other type of sugar,
27:00
and I'm not saying sugar. I'm saying glucose. And when you talk to
27:04
a layman or just a normal person about carbohydrate intake and your blood sugar level,
27:10
you say the phrase blood sugar level. But when you go into the
27:12
medical community it is referred to as blood glucose. Why Because the way it
27:18
works is, as I just described, you have to break all of the
27:19
macronutrients down to what's called monomer form. There are singular units where they can
27:25
go through the bloodstream, reach the interstitial fluid between the cells, then attached
27:30
to the receptor sites and go through the cell membranes. And once the monomer
27:33
units get into the cells them cells, that's where the biochemistry happens. That's
27:37
where everything takes place that we're wanting to occur. Right now. Just hang
27:41
with me here, now, just just hang with me. I'm going to
27:45
bring it home, guys. Right now. With regards to that process,
27:51
with regards to the receptor sites on human cell membranes, we only have a
27:55
receptor site for glucose. So the only form of sugar that can get into
28:00
our cells is glucose. So when we're eating, okay, when we're eating
28:03
our diet, it doesn't matter, absolutely doesn't matter what type of carbohydrate eat.
28:07
It doesn't matter where it's potatoes, oats, pixi sticks, it doesn't
28:11
matter. The end result in our bloodstream is going to be glucose. Now,
28:15
now that we understand that glucose is the only type of sugar that human
28:18
cells can use, we have a process that we can use in our liver
28:22
called gluco neeogenesis. Glucose meaning glucose genesis meaning formation of where we can take
28:29
other things like fatty acids. We can run them through this process in our
28:32
liver and we can create glucose. So remember a second ago, I said,
28:34
there's essential amino acids, essential fatty acids essential meaning essential to human cellular
28:41
function. We cannot self produce. Therefore, we have to have them essentially
28:45
an our nutrition plan to be healthy. Okay, Glucose the only form of
28:48
carbohydrate that we can use as human beings, we can self produce. That
28:53
means that the food Guide pyramid that tells us that seventy five percent of our
28:59
netro needs to be from carbohydrates, okay, seventy five percents coming from a
29:06
non essential nutrient. We essentially have to have protein every few hours. We
29:11
essentially have to have healthy fatty assids every few hours. Okay, for for
29:15
us to be healthy as our species. The way our species is evolved to
29:18
eat, that's the way that it works. Let me, okay, I'm
29:23
gonna try. I'm gonna okay, and and and and for all the listeners
29:27
who may not have gotten all all of the terminology, yeah, yeah,
29:33
give me, give me the one hundred one hundred history of what is this
29:45
in a simplistic kind of a way, Yes, where are we failing at
29:51
our nutrition level on a on just on our regular just on a regular daily
29:57
basis. We're trying to be an athlete, We're trying to be in you
30:04
know, look athletic or be a bodybuilding because I know the whole story behind
30:10
the meal prep my my, my nephew, uh he he does it.
30:17
So I understand that. But on to simplify for for the listeners, tell
30:25
me what I tell me what I need to change, what just based on
30:30
the norm, but the norm of what we think most people do. What
30:33
are what are they not doing? And what do we need to get What
30:37
do we need to start doing to be healthier in the training process? Simplistically,
30:42
I think the biggest problem in our in our country, our country specifically,
30:45
is that we don't really eat food. We eat food like products.
30:49
Okay, So the stuff that we eat it's not it's not really food,
30:55
okay, like it's it's just not healthy. Okay. So one of the
30:57
main things that the first thing I tell people to change is we're gonna if
31:03
it can sid on the shelf for three or four weeks, we're not probably
31:04
not gonna eat it. Okay. We need to get healthy animal protein,
31:08
okay, And I'm sorry for all the vegans and you know people out there
31:12
that don't eat meat. Okay, but we are omnivores. We're not carnivores,
31:17
and we're definitely not herbivores with regards from an evolutionary perspective. If our
31:21
skeleton was dug up fifteen thousand years from now, they're going to look at
31:23
our teeth and they're going to see that we're omnivores, which means that from
31:26
an evolutionary perspective, we need animal protein, and we need some some fats
31:33
from additional sources and carbohydrates from plant sources as well. Okay. Now that
31:37
being said, the first thing would be to start eating real food, and
31:44
the centerpiece to all of your meal should be protein. Protein is the most
31:48
essential nutrient. The word protein actually comes from the Greek word proteos, which
31:52
means of utmost importance, like we have to have it every two or three
31:55
hours, because we can store carbohydrates for energy for later use. Is glycogen.
32:00
We can store that in our muscle cells in our herpado sites, which
32:01
are lever cells. We can store. We can store fasts, obviously,
32:07
obviously we can store fast right that we cannot store amino acids for later use.
32:14
The only way to make sure that we have a readily supply of amino
32:17
acids available for reconstitution and reconstruction and healing of the body is to make sure
32:23
that we have some type of protin and take every two to three hours.
32:27
And when you say that, you're talking like for high level athletes who are
32:31
really about to want to go all the way Y got, Because I know
32:35
Lebron he's crazy like that, he'll eat it two three hours. I know
32:38
a lot of bodybuilders do that as well. And it's and it's crazy that
32:42
we know a lot of a lot of us know that process. We we
32:46
we know, we hear about these athletes who do these crazy things and how
32:51
they eat and all that kind of stuff, and yet we sit and say
32:55
we want to be that guy, right, I don't. I'll tell you,
32:59
I don't think we know. I think I think we heard about it.
33:02
I think we're aware to Andrew's point on want to know, we don't
33:06
want to know if we're not taught this like in school and you're coaching.
33:08
None of you, no coach I've ever had in my life has ever talked
33:12
about the nutrition to that degree in that level, on how how vital it
33:16
is. And even the training table that you gave college, you know,
33:20
you know none of that. Only difference for us at getting a training table
33:23
at State was we just ate the same food, just in a a in
33:28
a controlled area. Yeah that's that. I mean, it wasn't like they
33:30
were fixing us any Like you said, you're in the most I mean if
33:35
serddly in a high school or even like a lower college, you don't have
33:37
the football or the athletic uh meal plan or that meal line. You know,
33:43
you may have the we have a separate weight room in this or that,
33:45
but we eating the same crap everybody else e. But if you go
33:47
to Alabama or Florida State, but yeah, that's different, that's probably that's
33:52
probably big different. So so so what I say to these people is,
33:54
if you have posters of these people on your wall, and these are the
33:59
people you want to play, and you know that they do this, why
34:02
are you trying to talk yourself out of doing it? And if the if
34:06
the parents know that you need to do this to be an elite level.
34:09
You need to do this like your kids special. But he's not so special
34:13
that he can defy the rules of biochemistry. Well, and the crazy thing
34:16
too, is and we haven't gotten a chance to jump into into the into
34:22
the other area actually of actual the actual training is the most important I do
34:27
too. I'm glad that we we we hit this because everybody can train.
34:34
And running is running, you know, whether you're sprinting or doing mouths.
34:42
It is what it is and it'll show. But at the core of it,
34:46
it has to be the nutrition. It's the most foundational power. And
34:52
and and again the idea, the idea was trying to hit both, but
34:58
the importance of the new nutrition ends up taking over. Yeah, we got
35:00
to bring you back. But so let me ask you this. So bottom
35:05
line, bottom line, you you got two juniors, a basketball, football
35:09
players. They're great athletes, both of them equally greatest athlete. One they
35:14
train, they train together. They're training hard, yes you know what I
35:17
mean. But one eats average time everybody else eats, and the other one
35:22
is eating how you're suggesting they should as far as the nutrition. So you're
35:27
telling the audience, you're telling us that that one who's eating correctly is going
35:30
to ascend right, because the first thing that's gonna happen is their metabolism is
35:35
going to dramatically go up. That's why I talk about nutritional intake, and
35:38
you've not heard me mentioned caloric intake one time. I don't count calories.
35:43
I don't count them when I do it nutrition plant for my athletes and my
35:45
clients. I don't count calories because calories are irrelevant because I can manipulate your
35:50
metabolism to burn more calories nutrition by the nutritional andsome. If you're dead,
35:54
yes you have because you watched Michael Phelps come in here and just destroy the
35:59
entire planet when he did the Olympics, right, and he was eating about
36:01
ten thousand calories a day. You can look this up and if you put
36:06
a normal person on ten thousand calories a day, they're gonna be obese within
36:08
a year. But this man had a six pack. He had a six
36:12
pack, and literally he didn't just win gold medals, he humiliated an entire
36:16
planet and he was in taking ten thousand highris aying. The reason he was
36:21
able to do that is because his metabolism. His metabolic rate was so high
36:24
he could not only consume that much food, his intestinal system could process it
36:30
and then partition those nutrients to the tissues. Ladies and gentlemen, I know
36:37
for a fact that you probably didn't get all of that, But I think
36:42
the core of that is vital information of understanding that there is work to do
36:50
on the nutritional side. Man, with your child, with you, whomever,
36:57
we just are. We just are horrible when it come to the nutritional
37:00
side. It's embarrassing. Yeah, it's it is because I wouldn't I wouldn't
37:07
even allow you to come through my kitchen. I wouldn't let you because I'm
37:15
gonna have to clean those out and shage. But that's a different podcast.
37:17
Right, We got to get you back, thought, Yeah, come back.
37:23
We definitely want to get you back to We want to take you about
37:28
the half, the other half of it. Yeah, we want to come
37:30
back. If we can get you back and and and do the training side,
37:34
we we'd be extremely blessed and happy to have you back. I'm not
37:40
happy to come back anytime. All right, we will get you back,
37:44
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38:22
the conversation. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. We just uh me and
38:25
Hollis just got educated in school, man, We got schooled on nutrition and
38:32
and and we're definitely we're definitely gonna have have him back. Man, We're
38:37
gonna because this is one of those kind of topics that I think is really
38:43
really super important for folks to to understand nutrition and training. And like I
38:50
said, we didn't even we didn't even touch the training part of it.
38:52
So I think everybody kind of knows that Nitro's girls basketball just just became,
39:05
you know, state champions. I'm curious, Pat tell it, tell us
39:12
a little bit about like, how does that how do you feel like?
39:16
As as the game and I'm I'm saying this because I've never been in this
39:21
position, Okay, so tell me how how as as the clocks ticking away
39:28
and you're starting to realize that this is just getting ready to happen, like
39:31
we're getting ready to win this and become the state championship champions, what does
39:37
that feel like? How do how do you feel? You know, it's
39:42
emotional. I won't lie. There was about probably a minute and some change
39:47
left and when News County was shooting the ball out standing the entire game,
39:51
so I never really wanted to get excited and assume that it was already over.
39:57
But with about a minute some change left, I think Natalie had couple
40:00
of free throws and put us up about eight or nine, and I thought,
40:02
okay, I think we got this. And I kind of turned around
40:05
and looked at my wife and took a deep breath and I could kind of
40:07
feel the eyes start to water things like that, and you know, we
40:12
got up with about thirteen seconds left. I knew they were out of timeouts.
40:14
I knew it was pretty much over right, But it's just emotional because
40:16
of all the hard work and the dedication that not only the coaching staff puts
40:20
in but the players put in for an entire season. To see it pay
40:23
off in the end and to you know, win a state championship, it's
40:25
it's a blessing. I know. I know Natalie and I have seen her
40:30
from a little kid growing up, and and I wouldn't I wouldn't play her,
40:37
man, I wouldn't play her one on one for nothing. That I
40:40
mean, yeah, she she improved so much through the season, and it
40:45
just really came with trust, you know, from the coaching staff. We
40:49
we worked with her, We told her what her role was going to be,
40:51
what we needed her role to be. And in the beginning, Natalie
40:53
was still I'm going to shoot the three when I want, you know,
40:57
do what I want. But once she understood her role and saw that she
41:00
could get in the post and she could truly dominate inside the post, that's
41:02
when her game really took off and you could see a difference because her confidence
41:06
would build inside and then she could step outside and knock down some threes as
41:09
well, because it was hard for a guard to guard her because we would
41:13
move her to the post right when you put a big on her. We
41:15
brought her outside and she could either drive around the or the big or pull
41:19
up for a three. So that made the biggest difference was once she understood
41:22
her role on the team, we really just started you know, it was
41:24
a snowball effect. You just started rolling. The team came together as one.
41:28
So with that, because I think, to me, coaching in the
41:31
modern era to me, and I think football coaches are about to get it,
41:36
but I think basketball coaches have the most difficult job. Considering that you
41:42
have kids who are fluid. Now, don't you have positionless basketball? You
41:45
know, when we played in high school and middle school whatever, you know,
41:50
big was a big, a guard was a guard. And now kids
41:52
just think they should just be able to do with any all things. And
41:55
a lot of them just like to sit behind at arc and shoot right.
42:00
So what was that sales job like and say, hey, this is where
42:06
you can be most effective at not just for the young lady we're talking about,
42:08
just for you know, all your players. It's hard for everybody.
42:10
The three point line, I don't want to say ruin the game of basketball.
42:15
But at the same time, all these kids think that they're point guards
42:17
and they see it on the NBA. They see Lebron, you know,
42:21
they see Kobe, They've seen everybody. So it makes it it makes it
42:24
difficult as a coach to make these kids understand their role. Either you're a
42:28
big or you're a guard. But in Natalie's you know, perspective, I
42:31
mean, she could play both, and so it makes it easier as a
42:35
coach because if she can get her stamina up and you know, get in
42:37
the shape that you need her into, you can suber in for a big
42:40
or you can suber in at the guard. You can keep her at the
42:43
big and then when you sub someone in, move her to the guard.
42:45
So it makes it easier from her standboy, But then you got some of
42:47
the kids that think they're big and they're five foot six, five foot seven,
42:52
and they want to go inside and you know, try to pound away,
42:54
but at the same time they go in there and get a shot,
42:57
block to here and there. Makes it a little difficult. But once you
43:00
can get the team to understand their rolen their role on the court, makes
43:02
it a lot easier coaching staff. So this was just second championship, So
43:07
how was this one? Because you wanted in what you said a twenty one
43:13
then two years then you want it again, and I think you went to
43:15
the Did you go to the championship game in between? No, we made
43:19
it to the first round. The following year we won it. In twenty
43:21
twenty one, we got knocked out in the first round in overtime. Okay,
43:23
So how was this championship different from the first one? Or was it?
43:29
I mean, honestly, there wasn't much difference. I'm very superstitious.
43:31
I was telling the newspaper at the end of the interview. The year we
43:35
won it, we were a three seed. That same year, I had
43:37
two girls quit. This year I had two girls quit. That same year,
43:40
I had a girl terror acl This year I had Carson Jones tare her
43:44
as Wow. That year the boys team made the state tournament. This year
43:46
the boys team made the state tournament. Both were three seeds. So I'm
43:51
superstitious not look at things like that, you know. And when we were
43:53
a three seed that year too, I've told everybody I'm two and oh in
43:57
the nine o'clock in the morning games, and I'm zero to two and the
44:00
evening game. So I like being that three seed. If I can get
44:01
that three seed and we've won the state championship both years that we've been the
44:05
three seed. What do you think What do you think is the the structure
44:13
because people talk about and we've had this conversation coming in setting structure. You
44:19
know, you gotta create a culture. You got to get a culture in.
44:23
Do you feel you have a culture or do you feel like you have
44:28
players that are understanding the system the system that you're bringing in both. I
44:34
feel like we have and I'm not trying to put down any teams in the
44:38
state, and I feel like we have one of the best coaching staffs in
44:40
the state. Yes, you know j R. Kenny before I took the
44:45
position, I went to his house and sat down with him outside of his
44:49
house and was just talking to him, and I said, there's an opportunity
44:52
to go back to coaching because I'd coached with him and coach Whitting and coach
44:55
Clarket Capital for about probably ten to twelve years prior to taking this position,
45:00
and there was also an opportunity of possibly taking the Riverside Boys job at the
45:04
same time. So I went to his house and we were out back seting,
45:07
and I said, man, I got us an opportunity, but I'm
45:08
not going to go without you. And he said, well, what is
45:10
it and I said, well, we could go to Riverside and be the
45:13
boys coach, or we could go to Nitro and be the girls basketball coach.
45:17
And he kind of looked at me and he said, man, let's
45:21
go coach girls. And I went, huh what? And he said,
45:25
let's go coach girls. And he said, you know, you had the
45:29
opportunity at Riverside before and they turned it down, they tossed you away.
45:32
He said, let's go coach girls at Nitro. He said, I think
45:35
we can make a difference and I said, okay. I said, well,
45:37
I said, I'm going to ask Coach Swain too, And so I
45:40
asked Coach Swain and he turned me down. And so every year after that
45:45
we pestered Coach Swain to try to get Coach Swayin to come out and help
45:47
us because we wanted to build a strong coaching staff. And finally, the
45:52
first year we won the state championship, Coach Swain came on board. And
45:55
I mean since then, we've just we've gone up. My brother's one of
45:59
my SAIDs. Since also my dad does the scorebook We've got Steve Ash from
46:02
DuPont. He does all my scouting, all my stats, keeps up to
46:06
everything, lets me. He lets me know when players are being called out
46:08
and where the players are going to on the court. And I don't even
46:10
have to worry about it because he's always right. So you got a team
46:13
within a team, right, We've got a team. I mean, we
46:15
called himself bad Cop because I like to yell a lot. J R.
46:17
Is the good cop because he's a soft, you know, understanding one and
46:21
tells him, you know, more gently. My brother's like the hype man.
46:23
He gets them fired up during timeouts before games and things like that.
46:27
And Coach Swayne, we call him the Hall of Famer, you know,
46:30
because he's been around so long. He's won so many games, coach so
46:32
many games that you know, he knows where to put kids in at any
46:35
time. So I feel like the coaching staff alone is what's helped build the
46:38
program and the community and the administration at Nitro trusting in us to do give
46:43
me a little bit, give me because we want to get Coach swayin on
46:45
on the show. I actually I actually talked to him. I think it
46:52
was at the at the rec center. He was sitting down and we we
46:55
got we were signed to side and ended up started having a conversation because I
47:00
had never met him. Yeah, and I ended up I think I texted
47:05
Hollis about it and said, man, you know I talked to you know,
47:07
Coach Swain and he's an old schooler. That to me, that old
47:14
school is he has a way to have it fit. Like, oh,
47:16
yeah, he's not changed, but he has a way to make it fit.
47:21
He can make it work. Yeah, and he'll tell you that.
47:23
He'll tell you that. He'll but he walks into practice sometime he'll be like,
47:27
I don't like you, but and then he'll turn like I really do
47:30
like her, but you know I need her to work a little harder,
47:31
you know. But at the same time, he'll walk over and hug him,
47:35
you know. I mean he's a kid at heart. Yeah. I
47:37
mean, he may be in his sixties, early seventies. I don't know
47:39
what, coachwayn he'll never tell you his true age. But he's a kid
47:43
at heart and you've got to love him and his energy that he brings to
47:45
every game. If we've even got his son Isaiah at the as Our Water
47:50
boy. So we try to make it, you know, as much family
47:52
as we can down there, and that's one of our biggest mottos his family.
47:55
And that's I think that's what helps with the atmosphere and everything on the
48:00
team and the camaraderie. We don't do drama things like that. We put
48:02
that, we put it to bed early, and we relate to the kids.
48:06
That's one of the biggest things that I say anywhere and everywhere. If
48:08
you can relate to the kids, you can get along with the kids and
48:10
the parents and everyone gets along. Makes it a lot easier as a coach.
48:15
Let me one question. I want to make a bold statement here because
48:19
you talked about taking you and Kenny talked about taking the girl's job over the
48:22
boys job. And what I'm seeing in high school, even middle school to
48:29
a degree, and definitely in college, is that the girls game is better
48:34
than the boys. Bardner outside of the professional ranks. Yeah, I mean
48:39
I was nervous, I won't lie going into it because I'd never coached girls.
48:43
I coached freshman boys basketball at Nitro for Iarmian I'm sorry, at Capital
48:46
for ten to twelve years. Yeah, and I was just an assistant coach
48:51
I was learning from Coach Kenny. Coach Clark, Coach Whitten was there when
48:53
I was there also, so I was really just learning and taking notes from
48:57
it. And to this day, I tell everyone, I still don't know
49:00
everything about basketball. I still learn from Coach Kenny, I still learn from
49:04
Coach Swayin. I still learned from other coaches. But Coach Kenny and Coach
49:07
Swayne have more wins as assistant coaches than most high school you know coaches today,
49:13
So I still learn from them. And I'm not going to take all
49:15
the credit for all these wins and for these state championships. I couldn't do
49:20
any of this without them. The to Hollis's point about girls' sports are starting
49:27
to stand out front because I think that the girls, the players that you
49:37
have on those teams are true team players, even though they may be the
49:45
best players. That's a good point, you know, because I think when
49:49
you get when you start start going over to us as boys men. If
49:53
I'm good, I want to be the guy on me. There's about me,
49:58
and you know, don't throw the ball to Hollow because I know what's
50:00
gonna happen if he gets it. I think we we've kind of maybe starting
50:05
to lose a little bit of an edge. And then I saw a bunch
50:07
of clips today of college basketball pro basketball of players getting in the arguments,
50:14
fighting, pushing, shoving, tripping. I think I think girls basketball is
50:19
starting to come to the forefront, especially in West Virginia. I think girls
50:22
basketball the competition level has really grown over the last few years. And I
50:24
think it really it goes back to you know, your hornbuckle, your Montgomery's,
50:28
you're megan with her. Yeah, I think that they really started building
50:30
it, and I think it's just grown so much since then. And now
50:34
you've got four classes, you got more opportunities to see more different levels of
50:37
girls basketball. And even though at the collegiate level, we have Marshall,
50:42
who I think is probably going back to tournament at the Division two level,
50:45
and then we have a state they made the tournament, national tournament, Fairmont
50:50
made the national turn. I think you see might have made it too.
50:52
So I think from like you said, from high school, middle school all
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the way to the complete college level within this to West Virginia, women's basketball
51:01
is really good to watch. I agree. And what's crazy is I don't
51:06
even watch as much boys basketball as I used to. I watched Caitlin Clark.
51:09
I was just watching her yesterday. You know, yeah, girls basketball,
51:15
South Carolina. It's crazy that you coach basketball for you know, nine
51:19
or ten years at Capitol and then you turn around now all of a sudden,
51:22
you're sitting home with your wife and kids, and you're like, I'm
51:23
watching girls basket. Girl, I don't even watch the NBA as much anymore.
51:28
I'm watching college girls basketball. I don't even watch sports. But if
51:30
I if I see, I was on, Yeah, I'm sitting down.
51:35
I was sending it home yesterday fold laundry, and I was watching TV and
51:38
a buddy takes me said, you' watching the Iowa game. I was like,
51:39
I didn't even know it was on. So here. I turned the
51:43
Iowa game want and started watching the rest of the Iowa game. And then
51:45
as soon as it went off, LSU's girls came on against South Carolina,
51:49
and I started watching the rest. I watched all of it. I was
51:51
on the phone watching State play fair MINDC Championship Women's It's girls basketball is just
51:58
it's really good. It's growing, and you really have to respect, highly
52:04
respect where that talent level has gone, yeah. I mean, because go
52:09
back and try to give me your perspective of back when you were coaching at
52:15
Riverside Boys Capital or Capital and you were looking at the skill set, and
52:24
now when you come full circle tonightro and you're watching the girls, how much
52:32
difference does it even look. I was just telling someone a few months back
52:37
how the pace of girls high school basketball has really picked up over the last
52:43
few years. I mean, years ago, you'd see high school games in
52:45
the regular season, you'd see thirties to forties, thirty six for thirty thirty
52:50
six, and now a lot of high school regular season games now obviously postseason
52:53
more of the defensive picks up. Things like that. You're getting your forties
52:57
and fifties, but you're seeing high school games in the sixties, seventies and
53:00
eighties now. So, I mean, the pace of the game is really
53:01
picked up over the last few years. And that's one of our our goals
53:05
too. We want to play a fast pace, get up and down the
53:07
floor, and score a game. We don't want to bring it up and
53:09
slow the ball downs. If we can get the ball to the floor and
53:13
in transition to make some layups, we'd rather do that than come up and
53:15
slow the game down. We want to tire the opponent down. And I
53:17
think that's what girls basketballs came to. It's just becoming the fast paced game
53:22
like the boys games. Just to get out and go and whoever can score
53:24
the most wins. Yeah. I like that because I know that's like for
53:28
example, the coach at Marshall coach at State. They run that even at
53:31
Glennville as well. They run at five in five out type of thing,
53:35
and the pace is blistering, which makes the game go faster and it's just
53:38
fun to watch. That's when Marshall coaches done. She went to Glenville and
53:42
now she's doing the same thing a Marshall's Can you imagine can you imagine back
53:45
in the day, I've never got that was unheard of. Coach Marshall does
53:53
the thing, same thing make a State I would I would never that could
54:00
happened, you know, Like I don't think any coach at that point in
54:02
time would have ever thought that we could get to this place where you could
54:07
have five on five off right now that could agree that's that would have been
54:10
virtually impossible to do. Whether or not it was possible, they weren't.
54:15
That was not noworry, that wasn't in their mindset. So let me ask
54:19
you a question as far as being a coach, and this is something that
54:21
we've covered on this show, probably at nauseum, when you when we talk
54:24
about you know, au, when we talk about you know, playing in
54:30
the summer, different things of that nature. What is your advice as a
54:34
coach to your players, to your girls, Like, is it something where
54:37
you're saying, hey, just get as many games as you can, develop
54:39
a skill set. What are you looking for those girls to do an off
54:43
season or get away from the game itself and take a break. We'll playing
54:46
another sport. I want, I want them to play. I'm I'm two
54:51
sport, three sport. I don't care how many sports you play. As
54:52
long as you're out you're doing something. A lot of my girls play travel
54:58
ball, and I'm all for it. I just I just want them to
55:00
be careful. Obviously, I don't want them to get injured in the off
55:02
season because my season is just as important. But at the same time,
55:07
I know these travel coaches and the girls also want to get out there and
55:09
get recognized by these colleges and get these offers. So they can post them
55:13
on their social media and stuff like that. So I'm all for my girls
55:15
going out and playing as much balls they can, as long as you know,
55:19
they take precautionary and they don't do it to the point to where they're
55:21
weakening muscles or risk risking, you know, tearing an a cl or rolling
55:24
an ankle, anything that keeps them from playing in high school. That worries
55:28
me. But as just the high school coach, I can't really control what
55:31
they're going to do in the off season. That's up to the parents and
55:34
you know what they want to do. I'm just I'm just the coach.
55:36
That sounds like a mental health approach. Hey, I can't. I can't
55:40
control all that. Yeah, I'm just gonna give you without my advice and
55:43
whatever you choose to take, take it and see. And that's that's what
55:45
we were talking about earlier in the show. We were talking about, you
55:51
know, the risk versus the reward. I guess, when when you're playing
55:57
so many games and then how do you you know, how do you with
56:00
the nutrition leach to it, how do you manage that to be fit right
56:09
at the eating healthy after games. I'm sure it's Burger K, McDonald's or
56:13
whatever fast food drive on the way home. Right. Yeah, I know
56:15
several of my kids still do this in high school, and I can't control
56:19
what they eat eat. I know that I working at the Wreck and I
56:22
see South Charleston High School's men's basketball team come in. You know, sometimes
56:27
they're coming in they got a bag from somewhere because they didn't pick something up
56:30
on their way to practice, and they're eating it prior to practice, like
56:36
practice might be in fifteen minutes. You know. Off girls walking and eating
56:38
blizzards from Dairy Queen right down the street, and I'm like, we're Goenn
56:43
Torry practicing y'all over here shoving ice cream in your mouth, which I can't
56:45
talk. I've walked in Blizard before too, so I'm not the type of
56:49
person that you shouldn't beat the blizzard. But I'm also not going to run
56:51
you know, up backs, pro sprints, side leachers and all that your
56:54
stomach and handle it. I know mine's going to gonna be sitting over the
56:58
forward. And I think that maybe that's the evolution, that's the probably the
57:01
next step of athletic development and training, because I think far as you know,
57:05
when we growing up, you didn't have like there's many trainers and stuff.
57:07
You kind of had to figure it out on your own or just like
57:09
you said, play ball. So I think now that we have we have
57:13
a good set of trainers and parents who are and kids who are thinking like
57:15
it. I believe the next evolution is going to be Okay, well,
57:19
how can I really set myself apart? And I think that's where nutrition is.
57:22
I think that's the biggest thing. That and getting in the gym,
57:23
I told my ear the weight room, I told my girls, Yeah,
57:27
every year, like the off season is when you can become who you truly
57:30
want to be. And you can't do that during the season because it's hard.
57:32
You don't have time to get in the weight room or you know,
57:35
watch what you're eating. But if you could start it in the off season,
57:37
like right now, we don't do anything until June. If you could
57:39
start prepping now, get in the weight room and lift some weights. I'm
57:43
not saying going there and mix out and stuff like that, but just start
57:45
getting your body stronger and preparing for next season. That would help. Also,
57:50
especially with all the travel ball you're doing, it's going to help the
57:52
Lea. That's the nutrition. That's the nutrition and the actual training that that
57:57
we We just touched on the nutrition piece up it earlier again as as we
58:01
had mentioned before, but the training aspect of it, I think that we've
58:07
lost the idea of training as much as we think like playing like I'd rather,
58:12
I'm I don't know if there's I don't know if I'm gonna say this
58:15
the right way. I don't know if you get better playing a game versus
58:20
training. You know what I'm saying. I agree, I believe in conditioning
58:25
and everything pre season, but I don't know if kids nowadays believe in I
58:29
think they think, well, I can just get in shape on the court.
58:30
I have to go and track or run bleachers And it's hard, especially
58:35
in the off season to get these kids to come to Nitro and just run
58:38
some bleachers like. But at the same time, as a coach, you
58:42
got to build that team camaraderie. You got to build that relationship and make
58:45
them understand like, and we want to win a state championship. These are
58:49
the things you have to do in the off season and see. And the
58:51
reason why I say that is when I when I when I get the coach,
58:58
I'm gonna be already ready. Yeah, so when whatever whatever he decides
59:02
to put us through, whether it's a game, whether it's a scrimmage,
59:07
whether whatever it is, I've spent my time training. And if I'm training
59:14
and I'm taking in all the nutrition that I'm supposed to do. If I
59:16
if I create that structure and tell time time to play, I'm going to
59:22
be better. I'm going to be better off than most of the kids who
59:27
are just playing. I think you got to define training because I think kids
59:30
now, I think when they say training, they're talking about skill development,
59:36
and I think they're actually doing that to a certain degree. Now, they
59:38
may not be coming in this shape as far as being in cardiovascular ready to
59:43
take that pounty, but I think skill development they are doing. Are they
59:47
running the bleachers, are they looking at how they're supposed to? Maybe not?
59:52
Are they playing games? Depends on kind of what they're doing, because
59:54
I know, like when we're growing up, that's all you did was play.
59:57
That's how you got a lot of work with the kids on their basketball
1:00:00
conditioning and stuff. Do you think that when it comes down to training or
1:00:09
playing and not necessarily in a game, but like you go to the wreck
1:00:16
and you pick up and you just play. Does the training? Does training
1:00:22
matter more than let's say I played ten games of pick up basketball and I
1:00:29
trained ten days training. Where am I better at? I don't Why do
1:00:37
you think conditioning and running like you could run up backs in practice and still
1:00:40
not doing But I don't think that that conditions you for what you're doing in
1:00:44
a basketball game. I think there's a big difference. I think you know
1:00:46
the way you you run in a basketball game, you're sprinting one way,
1:00:51
then you may have to turn instantly and sprint back to the other end of
1:00:52
the floor for you may have gotten a steel or a turnover, and then
1:00:55
you're playing defense the whole time. I don't think that it running up is
1:01:00
not going to illustrate make any difference. Okay, so, but I mean
1:01:01
it does help, But I don't think there's it's gonna work for the most
1:01:07
I've never seen Okay, I've never seen. You may have seen it.
1:01:10
I don't think i've seen it. When I watch people train for basketball,
1:01:16
it's shooting, yeah, shooting and dribbling, making moves to the basket.
1:01:21
Yeah, everybody's not going to be the shooter, somebody's going to be the
1:01:27
defensive guy. Somebody's like to be able to play or girl that you know,
1:01:31
speak to us real quick on is there something that you can do to
1:01:36
help your defense, a way to practice or something. Is there any way
1:01:40
that you know of that that is helpful. So that I mean in our
1:01:45
practices we do a lot of you know, one on one turns, forcing,
1:01:51
defensive slides, trapping, things like that. But as far as defensive
1:01:55
wise, I don't really know of a whole lot. I mean, we
1:01:58
spread them out on the court and we'll do defenseive slides. For We'll put
1:02:00
five to ten minutes on the clock, work on positions and changing pointing in
1:02:04
different directions, move with the ball, move with the whistle. We'll go
1:02:07
one on one, work on sprinting down and turning them one way, forcing
1:02:10
them and then turn them the other way, things like that. But as
1:02:13
far as if you're in the gym by yourself, I don't really know defensive
1:02:15
wit unless you just want to stand there in the lane and just do some
1:02:19
defensive slides and touch the lanes back and forth. Yeah, I think that's
1:02:22
more of a heart on one two things right, Yeah, I mean I
1:02:23
think you'd have to have at least, you know, a partner there with
1:02:25
you to work with you, or something like a dad or something. I'm
1:02:30
sure there's something out there and I'm missing it. Somebody or somebody will come
1:02:32
to me and say, you can definitely do this. I just I just
1:02:36
stand. I just think I just always have thought, like you know,
1:02:38
there's always footwork that you can do, you know, and footwork obviously we
1:02:44
transition into the defensive side of it. I've always kind of looked at it
1:02:47
that way, and I don't see people don't. I think ladder drills may
1:02:52
help maybe with some defensive I know Coach Whitten came down before he went to
1:02:55
South Charleston and he worked my girls out three or four times or three days
1:03:00
a week for probably a month or more on the football field, doing all
1:03:02
kinds of speed and agility drills and footwork drills and things like that. Be
1:03:07
an athlete. Coach, Man, congratulations, thank you. Ring number two.
1:03:10
Yes, yep, yeah, man. So we're going for the three.
1:03:14
Were going for number three next year. Right. We only lost one
1:03:16
player, so we get everybody back but one. So I think we got
1:03:20
a good shot. We're going to come out in the all season and prepare
1:03:22
well. Congratulations, thank you, good luck. I appreciate it, Thank
1:03:24
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