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It's Not About Their Wishes at All · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews you need to start
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Speaker 1: your day. You're listening to The West Carrol Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Thursday morning, twentieth day of February. I'm Wes, thanks for
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Speaker 2: joining me. We're almost three weeks in February and there's
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Speaker 2: only another week after that. Told you it'd be March
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Speaker 2: before we know it. What do we got this morning? Yesterday?
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Speaker 2: The latest? I guess Trump pick was approved for cabinet
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Speaker 2: position Small Business Administration Director. Our friend Kelly Lefler. Congratulations
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Speaker 2: to her, several people over the years that we've gotten
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Speaker 2: to know. It's nice seeing them in these positions. Moving
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Speaker 2: on up. I have nothing but confidence in her ability
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Speaker 2: to do that, as the President picked her to do that.
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Speaker 2: I know we have a number of these cabinet positions
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Speaker 2: and roles that everybody seems to be an expert on,
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Speaker 2: whether they're qualified or not. There's some Georgia area people
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Speaker 2: that seem to didn't like her as a senator, and
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Speaker 2: you know, that's the way the whole process works, right
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Speaker 2: is she was up for reelection and people did not
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Speaker 2: vote for her to be re elected. That's the way
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Speaker 2: the process works. If you don't care for her, and
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Speaker 2: in this case, the people of Georgia among the many
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Speaker 2: battleground states as in all of them that approved President
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Speaker 2: Trump to get a second term, which gave him the
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Speaker 2: ability to pick Kelly Leffler as the Small Business Administration Director.
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Speaker 2: So that's where things go. And sometimes your pick works,
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Speaker 2: sometimes your pick doesn't work. You just have to roll
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Speaker 2: with it, right. I mean not to go all Steve
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Speaker 2: Winwood or anything, but that's we just have to or
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Speaker 2: do we do? We have to actually roll with things.
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Speaker 2: We're seeing a little bit of digging in from the
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Speaker 2: NCAA on this transathlete thing. They're kind of following the
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Speaker 2: executive order kind of not that's for another time. We've
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Speaker 2: talked a lot about that. I want to talk about
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Speaker 2: this relates to the transgender thing, but I just thought
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Speaker 2: this was an interesting thing that's going on in Colorado,
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Speaker 2: as they have drawn up a bill that would require
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Speaker 2: this is in Colorado, no big surprise at being a
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Speaker 2: blue state, but it would require a deceased person's gender
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Speaker 2: updated on their certificate of death, and if it's not done,
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Speaker 2: also their name whatever the name that they've transitioned to,
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Speaker 2: and there could be if it's not recorded properly on
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Speaker 2: the death certificate. The penalties would follow a fine jail time.
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Speaker 2: Anybody who knowingly and willfully is the way it's worried
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Speaker 2: it violates measure. Needless to say, there's a lot of
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Speaker 2: critics of this around the country, but supporters of it
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Speaker 2: say that, you know, this is about equality, this is
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Speaker 2: about fighting for their rights. Just a few things, a
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Speaker 2: few observations here. And I've spoken on this topic at
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Speaker 2: great length many times about people that I have known
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Speaker 2: in my life who have transitioned. And I know of
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Speaker 2: two definitively that transitioned, one successfully, the other not successfully.
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Speaker 2: And I haven't talked about that very much. But that
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Speaker 2: other person, at some point in the process of changing
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Speaker 2: their gender passed away. There were complications or something in
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Speaker 2: the I don't know the specific details. I just know
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Speaker 2: that it was somewhere in the process of this transition.
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Speaker 2: And I know that this person is no longer with us, okay,
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Speaker 2: And at some point, at some point, we're all going
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Speaker 2: to have experienced someone in our life that is in
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Speaker 2: the process of doing that. I know someone else who
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Speaker 2: is living a few people who are living as different genders.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that they're actually actively transitioning. I know
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Speaker 2: of at least one who's changed their name. I know
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Speaker 2: somebody that I know well that's changed their name. And
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you the same thing that I've said about
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Speaker 2: this topic many times. You BEU. You do whatever it
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Speaker 2: is that you want to do. I'm not going to
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Speaker 2: be someone who tells you that you can't live your life.
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Speaker 2: I'm a strong advocate, not only from a religious standpoint,
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Speaker 2: in the fact that we are given a free will
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Speaker 2: and we are able to live our lives, and even
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Speaker 2: if that means making mistakes in life, and we're able
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Speaker 2: to live our lives however we see fit that's coming
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Speaker 2: from a religious standpoint, And I understand you get into
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Speaker 2: some areas where you say, well, our friends, our family,
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Speaker 2: fellow believers, we should remind them of what the correct
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Speaker 2: path is. And in some cases they're just people that
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Speaker 2: you know who are trying to figure out their life
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Speaker 2: on their own, and I'm certainly there to try to
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Speaker 2: guide them if they want my guidance. But I've learned
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Speaker 2: that in many of these cases, they don't want guidance.
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Speaker 2: They just want to be told that you support them.
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Speaker 2: And it's not even that they want you to say
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Speaker 2: my go to which is, hey, you be you. I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to stop you from being you. You live
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Speaker 2: your life, and you be the person that you think
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Speaker 2: that you were meant to be. That's what I tell
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Speaker 2: them to do. But I've been asked by the person
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Speaker 2: who is no longer with us to be supportive of
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Speaker 2: their transition and to speak up on behalf of their
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Speaker 2: transition to everybody that I know who will hear me
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Speaker 2: say that I am supportive of their transition. And I
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Speaker 2: reminded this person that I support you by telling you
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Speaker 2: that you're an adult. You can live your life however
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Speaker 2: you'd like to live your life. I can support you
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Speaker 2: by reminding you that you had at the time a
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Speaker 2: wife and kids who probably miss their dad. I could
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Speaker 2: tell you that. I could tell you that if whatever
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Speaker 2: this process that you go through to transition ultimately ends
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Speaker 2: up being something that has some part in your life ending,
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Speaker 2: they're really going to miss you. But I can't stop
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Speaker 2: you from living your life. I don't want to. I
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Speaker 2: don't want to step in and stop you from living
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Speaker 2: your life. There's enough of that. There's enough people to
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Speaker 2: do that in the world. I don't want anyone telling
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Speaker 2: me how to live my life. I don't want someone
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Speaker 2: to tell me that I can't be a Christian. I
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Speaker 2: don't want someone to tell me that I'm not allowed
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Speaker 2: to do things that I choose to do in my life.
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Speaker 2: So this idea that we are all expected to participate
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Speaker 2: in all of this is, of course where I draw
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Speaker 2: the line. This is true with you know, if someone
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Speaker 2: is determined that they're going to I don't know, break
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Speaker 2: the law, they're going to break the law at some
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Speaker 2: point in the future. They're determined that they're going to
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Speaker 2: go steal something, and I can tell them that's not
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Speaker 2: a good idea. I mean, for a number of reasons,
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Speaker 2: but ultimately, if they make the decision that they're going
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Speaker 2: to do that, even after they tell me, okay, fine,
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Speaker 2: that's the extent of my involvement in it. You can't
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Speaker 2: get me to come back later and tell you that
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Speaker 2: you were supposed to do that and it was a
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Speaker 2: good idea. And I'm not equating stealing a car or
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Speaker 2: harming someone else with changing your gender. I'm just pointing
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Speaker 2: out the fact that if it's something that I don't
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Speaker 2: necessarily agree with, you can't ask me to be involved.
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Speaker 2: You can't ask me to participate. I'm not going to
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Speaker 2: ask you to live your life a certain way, just
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Speaker 2: like I don't want you to ask me to support it.
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Speaker 2: That should be where the transaction is between the two
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Speaker 2: of us. I don't have to support it now. The
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Speaker 2: people I know who have transitioned, or the people I
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Speaker 2: know who are living as a different gender under a
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Speaker 2: different name, I'll do everything I can to call them
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Speaker 2: by the name that they want me to call him.
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Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with that. You want to
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Speaker 2: tell me that your name is. If your name is
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Speaker 2: William and you tell me you'd like me to call
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Speaker 2: you Steve, that's fine. I'm probably going to slip up
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Speaker 2: and call you William every now and then, But okay, Steve.
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Speaker 1: It is.
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Speaker 2: If your name is William and you've decided that you
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Speaker 2: want to be Sally, might take me a little while
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Speaker 2: to get used to Steve or Sally, but I'll do
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Speaker 2: my best to be respectful. I don't have a problem
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Speaker 2: with being respectful. But see, this goes deeper than that.
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Speaker 2: This isn't just about you must fill out the death
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Speaker 2: certificate according to the wishes of the person who died
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Speaker 2: and their current gender. This is about penalty it's about
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Speaker 2: punishing us. This is that social punishment, that social credit
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Speaker 2: that the left, some on the left really want. It's
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Speaker 2: about punishing you can be punished. It's the whole idea
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Speaker 2: of I have a pizza shop. I don't want to
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Speaker 2: sell pizza for a wedding that I don't agree with.
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Speaker 2: Well you have to. We're gonna force you to, or
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Speaker 2: we're gonna take away your house. See, it's a punishment
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Speaker 2: that comes Remember the whole thing. It was a pizza
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Speaker 2: who was getting pizza for their wedding. It sounds good.
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Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with pizza at a wedding.
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Speaker 2: It's not a typical it all. See, seems very set up,
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Speaker 2: doesn't it. It seems very like this pizza place doesn't
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Speaker 2: want to do this. We don't really want pizza at
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Speaker 2: our wedding, but we're gonna do this, or a wedding
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Speaker 2: cake or whatever it is. Well, let me ask you this.
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Speaker 2: Let me throw another one at you in a different
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Speaker 2: direction when it comes to this honoring the wishes of
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Speaker 2: the gender, or the lifestyle or the name of the
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Speaker 2: person involved. And I understand this is Colorado. This is
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Speaker 2: one state, and who knows how far this goes. But
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Speaker 2: let's just representatives Karen McCormick and Kyle Brown. State Senator
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Speaker 2: Mike Weissman are among the people sponsoring this. Democrats, of course,
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Speaker 2: so they say this is about memorializing the person by
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Speaker 2: the gender chosen. And again, I don't necessarily have a
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Speaker 2: problem with it. We start throwing in the punishment side
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Speaker 2: of it. That's where it starts to get complicated. But
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Speaker 2: I understand there's some people who don't like the gender
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Speaker 2: identity documented forever for this person. It is a little confusing.
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Speaker 2: One day when they're doing the the family tree, they're
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Speaker 2: doing genealogy, and they're like, now, who is this person?
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Speaker 2: We have a birth record of this person, but they
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Speaker 2: don't have a death record. Is that how you end
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Speaker 2: up drawing Social Security when you're one hundred and fifty
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Speaker 2: and then we have a death record for a person
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Speaker 2: who we don't have a record of them being born.
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Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit confusing, but that's fine.
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Speaker 2: All that can be sorted out. We're gonna have to
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Speaker 2: have a big old asterisk in this period of time
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Speaker 2: where these things are happening. Someday in the future, they'll
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Speaker 2: look back on this and they're gonna have an opinion.
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Speaker 2: They're gonna have some kind of an opinion. There's things
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Speaker 2: that we have opinions about from way back in the day.
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Speaker 2: We have opinions about things that happened in the seventeen
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Speaker 2: hundreds and early eighteen hundreds. They're different opinions than what
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Speaker 2: many people have now about a variety of things. Right,
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Speaker 2: I digress, So let's talk about what I wanted to
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Speaker 2: bring up. Is one little extra complicated wrinkle in this
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Speaker 2: because this is about punishment, it's not about the wishes
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Speaker 2: of the person who's died. You can say that it is,
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Speaker 2: but it's not. And let me tell you why it's not.
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Speaker 2: Let me give you an example of how it's not.
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Speaker 2: Remember Liberaci Liberachi, of course, amazing performer, right, incredible performer,
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Speaker 2: beloved entertainer, very flamboyant, lived his life always declaring himself
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Speaker 2: to be a straight man, denied being gay, repeatedly said
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Speaker 2: I am not gay. I do not enjoy the company
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Speaker 2: of men. However, Liberaci said it perhaps even in song.
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Speaker 2: I don't know I don't know any Liberaci songs. I
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Speaker 2: mean not that well. I love some I don't know
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Speaker 2: him that well. Maybe he addressed it in song I
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Speaker 2: don't know, I do know that he addressed it repeatedly, repeatedly,
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Speaker 2: I am not gay. He dies, and then people start
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Speaker 2: making movies about his life, about outing him as a
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Speaker 2: gay man. He's not the first, he's not the only one.
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Speaker 2: But if he lived his entire life saying that he
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Speaker 2: wasn't a gay man, well, people say, well, but he was.
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Speaker 2: There are men who claimed to have had relationships with him. Okay,
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Speaker 2: So person in Colorado is born, born a boy, decides
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Speaker 2: at some point they want to live their life as
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Speaker 2: a woman, and then dies. Okay, so that was a
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Speaker 2: decision of how they wanted to identify themselves. Right, shouldn't
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Speaker 2: Liberaci have gotten an opportunity to live his life and
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Speaker 2: be identified by the way that he chose to be identified. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: people saying, well, I would like to tell you my
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Speaker 2: story of how I had a relationship with Liberaci or
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Speaker 2: whatever it is. That's fine. Let them tell their story.
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Speaker 2: It's far less interesting than making it as a biography
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Speaker 2: of Liberaci starring Michael Douglas or whoever played him. It's
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Speaker 2: it's far less interesting when it's like, you know, Teddy
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Speaker 2: the pool boy or whoever it was. It said that
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Speaker 2: they had a relationship with him. So which is it.
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Speaker 2: Are we trying to honor the person who's decided how
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Speaker 2: they want their life to be defined, or are we
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Speaker 2: trying to punish people for not participating in the game.
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Speaker 2: I think we know the answer. It's about punishing people
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Speaker 2: who don't want to participate in playing in the game.
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Speaker 2: That's what it's about. It's what it's been about for
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Speaker 2: a while. And I just wonder at this point is
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Speaker 2: this kind of are we in the death throws right?
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Speaker 2: Is this where we are with all of this? Is
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Speaker 2: this like a last desperate attempt at all of this?
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Speaker 2: Side note? And I'd just like to point this out.
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Speaker 2: There's a documentary that's coming, I guess to HBO. I
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Speaker 2: know it's coming to Max. I don't know if it'll
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Speaker 2: be on both. I assume it's both. Right about Paul
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Speaker 2: Rubens who lived his whole life identifying as a straight man,
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Speaker 2: when in fact, apparently in the last days of his life,
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Speaker 2: as he was dying of cancer, he decided to make
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Speaker 2: this documentary and come out and have it released after
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Speaker 2: he had passed away. That's very different, isn't it. He
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Speaker 2: wanted to set the record straight, kind of you know,
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Speaker 2: after he'd passed away, he wanted to do that in
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Speaker 2: death posthumously. That's a great word. He wanted to do that.
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Speaker 2: It was important to him to do that. Liberachi didn't
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Speaker 2: do that. There are a number of other famous people
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Speaker 2: who've been outed as being gay that live their whole
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Speaker 2: life saying I wasn't, I never was. There's a lot
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Speaker 2: of celebrities that people go but maybe they were. Is
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Speaker 2: that going to be against the law. Can you be
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Speaker 2: punished for doing that? If it's about honoring their legacy
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Speaker 2: and honoring how they chose to live their life, then
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Speaker 2: maybe it should be a punishable offense. I mean, at
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Speaker 2: what point are you violating their right to be memorialized
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Speaker 2: good sleep across all those surveyed. Phones another big sleep destroyer.
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Speaker 2: According to the survey, seventy two percent of people use
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Speaker 2: their phones in bed, even though it's been shown to
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Speaker 2: negatively impact sleep quality. According to Sophie Bostock, I'm sorry
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Speaker 2: doctor Sophie boss Stock, one of these sleep experts consulted
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Speaker 2: in the study. She says, with phones, it's not about
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Speaker 2: our screen or light. It's about the displacement of sleep.
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Speaker 2: People all spend almost an extra forty minutes on their
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Speaker 2: phone before bed. When we're tired, we have lower self control.
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Speaker 2: We need to move the phone out of the room.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to offer this and I don't really do
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Speaker 2: a whole lot of scrolling in bed. I do some
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Speaker 2: before bed, but it's typically before I actually go to
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Speaker 2: the bedroom. I've started and this is one of those
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Speaker 2: things that I realized we were doing it with our kids,
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Speaker 2: with the boys. It's the charger for the phone should
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Speaker 2: not be anywhere near where you sleep. You're gonna probably
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Speaker 2: want to charge it overnight in most cases, how about
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Speaker 2: a charger in another room? It helps me. It just
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Speaker 2: helps a little bit as far as not being tempted
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Speaker 2: to have it nearby. But if you don't have the
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Speaker 2: option of charging it next to the bed, very often
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Speaker 2: you'll just leave it elsewhere. I'm not one hundred percent
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Speaker 2: compliant with this policy. I do have a charger on
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Speaker 2: my bedside table, but I often try to at least
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Speaker 2: charge it in a different room, and I think it
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Speaker 2: does help, makes it a little bit less tempting. All right,
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Speaker 2: just when you thought job interviews couldn't get any worse,
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Speaker 2: AI is scanning resumes and now it seems your next
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Speaker 2: hiring manager could be AI. So how comfortable would you
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Speaker 2: be with AI handling the hiring process? According to a
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Speaker 2: recent survey, forty three percent were uncomfortable with the idea
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Speaker 2: of AI doing a job interview. That number was higher
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Speaker 2: for boomers fifty six percent saying not cool with the idea.
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Speaker 2: Thirty two percent were open to the idea, and that
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Speaker 2: was especially true for gen Z job seekers, twenty six
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Speaker 2: percent saying they were unsure what an AI job interview
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Speaker 2: would even be like, Yeah, they probably might see through
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Speaker 2: the Uh my biggest weaknesses. I just care too much.
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Speaker 2: I'm just too honest, you know, those kind of answers.
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Speaker 2: The latest luxury bathrooms have a wet room, basically an
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Speaker 2: open shower and tub that's separated from the rest of
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Speaker 2: the bathroom by glass. It's a room where everything can
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Speaker 2: get wet. The concepts started in hotels, and now people
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Speaker 2: are starting to incorporate these mini spas in their homes.
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Speaker 2: I've noticed this trend and hotels and things, and yes,
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Speaker 2: everything does get wet everything. And then you know, if
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Speaker 2: you're like me and you're in a hotel room, you
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Speaker 2: prefer to wear socks in the hotel room. And you
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Speaker 2: know you can't even go into the bathroom in your
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Speaker 2: socks because your feet are gonna get wet because there's
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Speaker 2: just water everywhere because of these stupid wet rooms. It's ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: Come on, man, how about just something to trap the
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Speaker 2: water in there? All right, it's official. I'm old, I
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Speaker 2: get it. I'm old. I turn fifty and I'm going
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Speaker 2: to these kids in my yard and these wet bathrooms.
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Speaker 2: That'll do it. For this Thursday edition of the show,
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