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Murder In Moscow: The Authorities Continue To Try To Tie Kohberger To The Victims · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the program.
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  Speaker 2: Today we're going to hop right back into some of
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  Speaker 2: the headlines from overnight and see where things currently stand
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  Speaker 2: as of this morning. And to do that, once again,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to use The Independent. Author of this article
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  Speaker 2: is Rachel Sharp. Idaho Murders Update. Brian Koberger appears to
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  Speaker 2: have no connection to student victims. Brian Koberger is accused
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  Speaker 2: of murdering Kaylee Gonsalves, Madison Mogan, Zanna Kernodle, and Ethan
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  Speaker 2: Chapin in Moscow, Idaho on November 13th. And I think
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  Speaker 2: we have to remember with that that there's no known connections.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that later on we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: hear about connections that they had, maybe, you know, strangers
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  Speaker 2: in the night passing. But at some point, one or
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  Speaker 2: more of these girls came on Brian Koberger's radar and
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  Speaker 2: And according to authorities, that led to their murder. So
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  Speaker 2: the question becomes, where did they run into Brian Koberger originally?
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  Speaker 2: How did he even find out about these girls and
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  Speaker 2: what those connections are? And so far, we haven't heard
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  Speaker 2: anything from an official source that would lead us to
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  Speaker 2: believe that they were connected in any way. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: we've heard the complete opposite. So while we usually have
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  Speaker 2: a situation like this, where the person responsible for the
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  Speaker 2: murders is somebody in the orbit of the people who
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  Speaker 2: were killed, this looks like something different where Brian Koberger
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  Speaker 2: was aware of them, but they weren't aware of Brian Koberger.
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  Speaker 2: The four University of Idaho students murdered in an off-campus
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  Speaker 2: home in Moscow, Idaho, had no known connection to their
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  Speaker 2: suspected killer, Brian Koberger, according to an attorney for one
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  Speaker 2: of the victim's families. No one knew of this guy
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  Speaker 2: at all. Shannon Gray, who represents the family of victim
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  Speaker 2: Kaylee Gonsalves, told Business Insider.
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  Speaker 1: Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Koberger, a criminal justice PhD student at Washington State University,
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  Speaker 2: is charged with the murders of Gonsalves, Madison Mogan, Zanna Kernodle,
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  Speaker 2: and Ethan Chapin. The four students were found stabbed to
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  Speaker 2: death back on November 13th. with the affidavit revealing that
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  Speaker 2: a surviving roommate came face-to-face with the masked killer inside
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  Speaker 2: the home in the early hours of the morning. Throughout
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  Speaker 2: the seven-week investigation that followed, Mr. Koberger continued with his
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  Speaker 2: studies at nearby Washington State University. Classmates have now revealed
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  Speaker 2: that they noticed the change in behavior from the suspect,
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  Speaker 2: with the usually chatty student falling completely silent when the
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  Speaker 2: killings were discussed in class. And again, if you just
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  Speaker 2: look at that on its own, no big deal, right?
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  Speaker 2: But when you look at everything in the totality of
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  Speaker 2: what we know, it all looks real bad for Brian Koberger.
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  Speaker 2: On November 30th, the 28-year-old was arrested at his family
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  Speaker 2: home in Pennsylvania. He is scheduled to next appear in
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  Speaker 2: court on January 12th for a status hearing. Victim's family
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  Speaker 2: plans to set up foundation in her honor. The family
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  Speaker 2: of murdered student Kaylee Gonzalez is planning to set up
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  Speaker 2: a foundation in her memory. And I think this is
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  Speaker 2: the best way to honor somebody who has died. Setting
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  Speaker 2: up a scholarship fund in their name to help other
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  Speaker 2: people moving forward, that is certainly something that you would
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  Speaker 2: like your legacy attached to, right? And I think it's
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  Speaker 2: very cool for the family to do that because what
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  Speaker 2: it's going to do is provide help for other people,
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  Speaker 2: going to provide, you know, resources for other people. And
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  Speaker 2: for the family, they're not going to let Kaylee be
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  Speaker 2: known as just somebody who was murdered. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: have her legacy live on forever with this foundation. And
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  Speaker 2: I always think it's a good idea when I see
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  Speaker 2: families do this, like with Gabby Petito's family as well.
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  Speaker 2: I think it helps the families heal. When you're feeling
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  Speaker 2: like you're doing something as far as pushing the envelope
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  Speaker 2: further and pushing the conversation to a new place, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of times what it does is it gives the
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  Speaker 2: remaining family a sense of purpose and something to pursue
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  Speaker 2: as far as the legacy of their loved one. So
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  Speaker 2: this is really cool to see that they're doing this
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  Speaker 2: for Kaylee. Gonsalves' sister, Olivia Gonsalves, told News Nation that
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  Speaker 2: they're in the early stages of launching a foundation to
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  Speaker 2: honor the 21-year-old. Now that a suspect has been arrested
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  Speaker 2: for her murder, Ms. Gonsalves said that she and her
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  Speaker 2: family can finally begin the grieving process. We still have
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  Speaker 2: such a long road ahead of us. The relief that
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  Speaker 2: we all felt having a suspect in custody was, I
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  Speaker 2: can't even describe it, like the weight of the world
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  Speaker 2: was lifted from our shoulders, she said. And when you
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  Speaker 2: have a loved one who was murdered, what else do
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  Speaker 2: you have left to you besides justice, right? So when
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  Speaker 2: you see somebody get arrested, a suspect get brought into custody,
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  Speaker 2: and you realize that you might get to close that chapter,
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  Speaker 2: that has to feel good. Now, of course, never going
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  Speaker 2: to bring your loved one back. But the thought of
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  Speaker 2: the person who committed those crimes, who murdered your loved one,
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  Speaker 2: being on the street still, must be too much to
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  Speaker 2: even deal with. So having the person that the authorities
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  Speaker 2: say is responsible for these crimes in custody has to
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  Speaker 2: be a great feeling for these families. A former friend
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  Speaker 2: believed Koberger had turned his life around. A former friend
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  Speaker 2: of suspected killer Brian Koberger has revealed that she believed
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  Speaker 2: he had turned his life around before his shock arrest
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  Speaker 2: for a quadruple homicide last month. On CBS News 48 Hours,
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  Speaker 2: Brie said that she knew Mr. Koberger when they were
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  Speaker 2: in high school, but their friendship ended when he began
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  Speaker 2: using heroin. You just saw him becoming more self-destructive. He
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  Speaker 2: really stayed secluded, she said. Well, he might have been
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  Speaker 2: using heroin at the time, but do you think he
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  Speaker 2: was using heroin while he was getting his doctorate? I
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  Speaker 2: know that there's functioning addicts and stuff like that, but
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  Speaker 2: it would really be a monumental task to be addicted
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  Speaker 2: to heroin and to still get your PhD and show
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  Speaker 2: up for work every day. So he might have been
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  Speaker 2: on heroin when he was in high school, but I
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  Speaker 2: highly doubt that he was currently addicted to the horse.
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  Speaker 2: When she saw him again sometime later, she said it
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  Speaker 2: appeared as if he was getting his life together. He
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  Speaker 2: was telling me that he wanted to get sober, that
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  Speaker 2: he was getting sober, and he wanted to let me know, like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to do better.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be better, she said immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Brie said that he wanted to do something that impacted
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  Speaker 2: people in a good way and that she believed that
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  Speaker 2: studying criminology was his way of doing this. Instead, he
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  Speaker 2: is now facing the death penalty for the murders of
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  Speaker 2: four students.
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  Speaker 1: And rightfully so.
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  Speaker 2: Any sort of bitch-ass coward who's skulking around in somebody's
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  Speaker 2: house and murders them while they're asleep or in their
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  Speaker 2: bed deserves the death penalty.
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  Speaker 1: And you already know how I feel. Live volcanoes. And GoPros.
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  Speaker 2: Victim's sister believes Brian Koberger wouldn't have been able to
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  Speaker 2: resist following the investigation online. The sister of murdered student
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  Speaker 2: Kaylee Gonsalves has said that she suspects that the accused
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  Speaker 2: killer wouldn't have been able to resist following the investigation
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  Speaker 2: online so that he could watch his circus unfold. And unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: that's how a lot of these scumbags roll. They love
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  Speaker 2: to watch their work, right? They love to take part.
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  Speaker 2: They love to show up at vigils. They love to
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  Speaker 2: show up wherever there's a function for the murdered. It's
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  Speaker 2: part of the whole thing for them, right? They get
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  Speaker 2: off on it. And we know that there was no
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  Speaker 2: sexual assault that occurred to.
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  Speaker 1: Any of these roommates.
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  Speaker 2: So it was the act of killing itself that got
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  Speaker 2: the killer, who they say is Brian Koberger, off. So
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  Speaker 2: this is a sick, sick individual we're dealing.
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  Speaker 1: With here, folks.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody who has very dark desires. And somebody who most
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  Speaker 2: certainly was following along with what was going on. And
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  Speaker 2: I've been convinced about that from the very beginning. Brian
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  Speaker 2: Koberger has spent years studying criminal justice and at the
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  Speaker 2: time of the murders was a criminology PhD student at
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  Speaker 2: Washington State University. According to the affidavit, he appears to
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  Speaker 2: have stalked the home of the victims at least 12
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  Speaker 2: times prior to the November 13th slayings. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: that comes from the fact that he had visited the
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  Speaker 2: home so many times before, late at night and early hours.
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  Speaker 2: He's presented this pattern of behavior, she told News Nation.
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  Speaker 2: And him staking out the house and following them around
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  Speaker 2: and going back at all hours of the night, it
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  Speaker 2: fits the pattern with the kind of person that we're
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  Speaker 2: dealing with here. This is a man who has a
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  Speaker 2: lot of schooling, a man who understands the law or
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  Speaker 2: at least should understand the law.
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  Speaker 1: And understand how cases like this unfold.
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  Speaker 2: And even with all that knowledge, old dumbass decided to
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  Speaker 2: use his own car and bring his phone with him. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: did I mention he left a knife sheath at the
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  Speaker 2: scene of the crime with his DNA on it?
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  Speaker 1: Sherlock Holmes, he is not.
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  Speaker 2: He went back to the home the morning of before
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  Speaker 2: police had been called, I think to see if his circus,
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  Speaker 2: so to say, had started to unfold, she said. I
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  Speaker 2: think he would not have been able to refrain from
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  Speaker 2: engaging with the online communities, the theories, the conspiracies and
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  Speaker 2: everything in between. Oh, I have no doubt. I've said
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  Speaker 2: that from the beginning. I thought this dude was following along.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that he was keeping an eye on things.
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  Speaker 2: and really enjoying himself. He certainly fits the bill, right?
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  Speaker 2: When you look at who the suspect is and you
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  Speaker 2: think about the patterns and the behavior, it certainly fits
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  Speaker 2: the bill for a guy like Brian Koberger. Brian Koberger's
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  Speaker 2: hearing rescheduled. Brian Koberger's next court appearance has now been rescheduled.
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  Speaker 2: The murder suspect's preliminary status hearing will now take place
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  Speaker 2: at 8 a.m. Pacific Standard Time on Thursday, January 12th,
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  Speaker 2: instead of the original time of 10 a.m. Pacific Standard Time.
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  Speaker 2: A court order announcing the change revealed that there was
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  Speaker 2: a scheduling conflict with the original time. Due to scheduling conflicts,
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  Speaker 2: the parties stipulated to changing the time of said hearing. Therefore,
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  Speaker 2: with good cause, it is hereby ordered that the preliminary
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  Speaker 2: status hearing will be held on January 12th, 2023 at
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  Speaker 2: 8 a.m. Pacific Standard Time in courtroom one of the
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  Speaker 2: Latah County Courthouse.
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  Speaker 1: The order reads.
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  Speaker 2: So they had a scheduling conflict as far as time
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  Speaker 2: and they had to reschedule the prelim hearing for a
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  Speaker 2: different time period than was originally slated.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to get it at 8 a.m. instead.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, we'll be keeping our eye on that. And the
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  Speaker 2: actual court filing, the rescheduling, that'll be in this next
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  Speaker 2: court filing dump that I'll be uploading later on. So
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  Speaker 2: that's where we're at as of this morning, folks. And
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  Speaker 2: that's where things stand in the investigation into Brian Koberger
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  Speaker 2: and the murders in Moscow. If you'd like to contact me,
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