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From Tragedy to Triumph: The Remarkable Story of Eugene Neely · Sports History Network

• 0:57
  Hey,
• 0:57
  glad
• 0:57
  you
• 0:58
  could
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  join
• 0:58
  us.
• 0:58
  You
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  are
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  just
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  in
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  time
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  for
• 0:59
  a
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  great
• 1:00
  story
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  from
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  over
• 1:01
  110
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  years
• 1:02
  ago
• 1:02
  of
• 1:02
  a
• 1:03
  gentleman
• 1:03
  that
• 1:03
  suffered
• 1:04
  a
• 1:04
  personal
• 1:05
  tragedy,
• 1:05
  young
• 1:05
  in
• 1:06
  life
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  that
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  most
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  would
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  find
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  to
• 1:07
  be
• 1:07
  disabilitating,
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  but
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  he
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  overcame
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  to
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  become
• 1:10
  the
• 1:10
  top
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  of
• 1:11
  the
• 1:11
  football
• 1:12
  world.
• 1:12
  Tim
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  Brown
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  brings
• 1:13
  us
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  the
• 1:14
  story
• 1:14
  of
• 1:14
  an
• 1:14
  amazing
• 1:15
  player
• 1:15
  who
• 1:15
  overcame
• 1:16
  unbelievable
• 1:17
  obstacles
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  to
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  reach
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  a
• 1:18
  pinnacle
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  of
• 1:19
  the
• 1:19
  pigskin.
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  Tim,
• 1:21
  welcome
• 1:21
  back
• 1:21
  to
• 1:21
  the
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  pig
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  pen.
• 1:22
  Hey,
• 1:23
  Darren.
• 1:23
  Look
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  forward
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  to
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  chatting.
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  And
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  normally
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  I
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  start
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  off
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  with
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  some
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  kind
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  of
• 1:27
  dad
• 1:28
  joke,
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  but
• 1:28
  I
• 1:28
  just
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  couldn't
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  come
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  up
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  with
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  one
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  that
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  really
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  seemed
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  fitting
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  and
• 1:32
  appropriate
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  here.
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  So.
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  Yeah,
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  yeah,
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  we're
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  just
• 1:35
  gonna.
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  We're
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  just
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  going
• 1:36
  in
• 1:36
  bareback.
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  Just
• 1:37
  gonna
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  go.
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  Go
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  into
• 1:38
  this
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  thing.
• 1:40
  This
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  title
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  does
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  bring
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  up
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  a
• 1:41
  memory,
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  though,
• 1:42
  but.
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  Which
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  I'll
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  share
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  with
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  you
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  in
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  a
• 1:43
  second.
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  The
• 1:44
  title
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  that
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  you
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  wrote
• 1:45
  of
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  a
• 1:45
  recent
• 1:45
  tidbit
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  is
• 1:46
  don't
• 1:46
  handicap
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  Eugene.
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  Gus
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  Neely.
• 1:50
  And
• 1:50
  the
• 1:50
  memory
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  that
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  pops
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  up
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  to
• 1:52
  me
• 1:52
  is
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  when
• 1:53
  I
• 1:53
  was
• 1:53
  a
• 1:53
  kid,
• 1:53
  there
• 1:54
  was
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  a
• 1:54
  movie
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  called
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  Gus
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  that
• 1:55
  I
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  think
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  Disney
• 1:56
  came
• 1:57
  out
• 1:57
  with
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  about
• 1:57
  a.
• 1:58
  A
• 1:59
  donkey
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  that
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  was
• 1:59
  kicking
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  field
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  goals.
• 2:00
  That
• 2:02
  it
• 2:02
  was
• 2:02
  just
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  a
• 2:02
  silly
• 2:03
  story,
• 2:03
  but
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  I
• 2:03
  just
• 2:04
  remember
• 2:04
  that.
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  Because
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  of.
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  Donkey's
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  name
• 2:06
  was
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  Gus.
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  Yes,
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  but
• 2:08
  has
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  nothing
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  to
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  do
• 2:09
  with
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  this
• 2:09
  story,
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  I
• 2:09
  don't
• 2:09
  think.
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  Did
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  you
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  cry
• 2:10
  when
• 2:10
  you
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  watched
• 2:11
  the
• 2:11
  movie,
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  or.
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  No,
• 2:12
  I
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  only.
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  I
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  cried
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  an
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  Old
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  Yeller,
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  but
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  not.
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  Not
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  Gus,
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  because
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  Gus
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  was
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  a
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  bit
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  of
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  a
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  jackass.
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  Oh,
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  yeah,
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  Sounds
• 2:21
  like
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  it.
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  I
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  had
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  to
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  get
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  the
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  dad
• 2:22
  joke
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  in
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  or
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  somewhere.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  Well,
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  good.
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  Thank
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  you.
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  Tell
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  us
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  about
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  Ed
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  Neely.
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  Yeah.
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  So
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  Eugene
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  Neely.
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  I'm
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  sorry.
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  Yeah.
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  The
• 2:32
  cool
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  thing
• 2:33
  about
• 2:33
  him
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  is
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  I
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  think
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  everybody
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  loves.
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  We're
• 2:37
  talking
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  about
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  Old
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  Yeller,
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  but
• 2:38
  everybody
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  loves
• 2:39
  a
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  story
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  of
• 2:40
  an
• 2:40
  underdog.
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  Right.
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  And
• 2:44
  so
• 2:45
  now
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  normally
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  it's
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  because
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  in
• 2:47
  football,
• 2:47
  it's
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  because
• 2:48
  somebody's
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  too
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  short,
• 2:50
  too
• 2:50
  slow,
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  or
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  they
• 2:52
  came
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  from
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  some
• 2:53
  small
• 2:53
  school
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  or,
• 2:54
  you
• 2:54
  know,
• 2:54
  whatever
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  it
• 2:55
  may
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  have
• 2:55
  been.
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  But
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  here
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  and
• 2:59
  there,
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  there
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  have
• 3:00
  been
• 3:00
  guys
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  who
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  have
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  some
• 3:02
  form
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  of
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  physical
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  handicap,
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  and
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  yet
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  they
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  persevere
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  and
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  end
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  up,
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  you
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  know,
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  having,
• 3:09
  you
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  know,
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  some
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  great
• 3:10
  success.
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  So.
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  And
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  he's
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  one
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  of
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  them.
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  And
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  so
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  Gus
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  Neely
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  grew
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  up
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  in
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  Texas,
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  you
• 3:19
  know,
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  somewhere,
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  I
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  think
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  right
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  around
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  Dallas.
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  I'm
• 3:23
  blanking
• 3:23
  on
• 3:23
  the
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  name
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  of
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  the
• 3:24
  town.
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  It's
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  like
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  Cherokee,
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  Texas
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  or
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  something
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  like
• 3:26
  that.
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  But
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  anyways,
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  he
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  lost
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  his
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  right
• 3:29
  hand
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  in
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  a
• 3:31
  farming,
• 3:31
  you
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  know,
• 3:31
  farm
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  accident
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  when
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  he
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  was
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  in
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  high
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  school,
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  probably
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  about
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  his
• 3:34
  sophomore
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  junior
• 3:35
  year.
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  But
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  he
• 3:38
  ended
• 3:38
  up
• 3:38
  playing.
• 3:40
  You
• 3:40
  know,
• 3:42
  he
• 3:42
  ended
• 3:42
  up
• 3:42
  playing
• 3:43
  football
• 3:43
  and
• 3:43
  baseball
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  at
• 3:44
  the
• 3:45
  Peril
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  School
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  in
• 3:46
  Dallas
• 3:47
  that
• 3:47
  eventually
• 3:48
  merged.
• 3:48
  Now
• 3:48
  it's
• 3:49
  St.
• 3:49
  Mark's
• 3:50
  you
• 3:50
  know,
• 3:50
  a
• 3:50
  couple
• 3:50
  schools
• 3:51
  came
• 3:51
  together.
• 3:51
  So
• 3:51
  it's
• 3:52
  still
• 3:52
  an
• 3:52
  ongoing,
• 3:52
  very,
• 3:53
  you
• 3:53
  know,
• 3:53
  prestigious,
• 3:54
  you
• 3:54
  know,
• 3:54
  school
• 3:55
  in
• 3:55
  the
• 3:55
  Dallas
• 3:55
  area.
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  But
• 3:56
  so
• 3:56
  he
• 3:57
  plays
• 3:57
  there.
• 3:59
  And
• 4:00
  then
• 4:00
  he
• 4:00
  entered
• 4:01
  Dartmouth
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  in
• 4:02
  1915
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  and
• 4:07
  he
• 4:07
  right
• 4:07
  away
• 4:08
  got
• 4:08
  some
• 4:09
  national
• 4:09
  attention.
• 4:10
  So
• 4:10
  like
• 4:11
  newspapers
• 4:11
  are
• 4:12
  always
• 4:12
  looking,
• 4:12
  you
• 4:13
  know,
• 4:13
  still
• 4:13
  are,
• 4:13
  you
• 4:14
  know,
• 4:14
  but
• 4:14
  back
• 4:14
  then
• 4:14
  they
• 4:14
  were
• 4:15
  always
• 4:15
  looking
• 4:15
  for
• 4:15
  something,
• 4:16
  some
• 4:17
  human
• 4:17
  interest
• 4:17
  story.
• 4:18
  And
• 4:19
  so
• 4:19
  there's
• 4:20
  a
• 4:20
  big
• 4:20
  deal
• 4:20
  made
• 4:20
  of
• 4:21
  him.
• 4:21
  He
• 4:21
  appeared
• 4:21
  in
• 4:22
  papers
• 4:22
  all
• 4:22
  over
• 4:22
  the
• 4:22
  place
• 4:23
  because
• 4:23
  they
• 4:24
  called
• 4:24
  him
• 4:24
  a
• 4:24
  one
• 4:24
  armed,
• 4:25
  you
• 4:25
  know,
• 4:26
  football
• 4:26
  player.
• 4:27
  And
• 4:28
  even
• 4:28
  though
• 4:28
  he's
• 4:29
  on
• 4:29
  the
• 4:29
  freshman
• 4:29
  team,
• 4:30
  you
• 4:30
  know,
• 4:30
  couldn't
• 4:30
  play
• 4:31
  varsity
• 4:31
  at
• 4:31
  Dartmouth
• 4:32
  at
• 4:32
  the
• 4:32
  time.
• 4:33
  He
• 4:33
  was
• 4:33
  like,
• 4:34
  it
• 4:34
  was
• 4:34
  clear
• 4:34
  this
• 4:35
  kid
• 4:35
  was
• 4:35
  good
• 4:36
  and
• 4:36
  that
• 4:36
  he
• 4:36
  was
• 4:36
  gonna
• 4:37
  make
• 4:37
  his
• 4:38
  mark
• 4:39
  at,
• 4:41
  at
• 4:41
  Dartmouth.
• 4:42
  And
• 4:42
  one
• 4:43
  of
• 4:43
  the
• 4:43
  other
• 4:43
  funny
• 4:43
  things
• 4:44
  was
• 4:44
  that
• 4:44
  like
• 4:45
  while
• 4:45
  he
• 4:46
  was
• 4:46
  getting
• 4:46
  attention
• 4:46
  a
• 4:47
  lot
• 4:47
  of
• 4:47
  times
• 4:47
  the,
• 4:47
  the
• 4:48
  local
• 4:48
  newspaper,
• 4:49
  they,
• 4:49
  they
• 4:49
  kind
• 4:49
  of
• 4:49
  add
• 4:50
  to
• 4:50
  the
• 4:50
  syndicated
• 4:51
  article
• 4:52
  and
• 4:52
  they
• 4:52
  say,
• 4:53
  well,
• 4:53
  you
• 4:53
  know,
• 4:54
  they
• 4:54
  don't
• 4:55
  know,
• 4:55
  you
• 4:55
  know,
• 4:55
  because
• 4:56
  it
• 4:56
  was
• 4:56
  claimed
• 4:56
  that
• 4:56
  he
• 4:56
  was
• 4:57
  the
• 4:57
  only
• 4:57
  one
• 4:57
  armed
• 4:58
  football
• 4:58
  player
• 4:58
  in
• 4:59
  the
• 4:59
  country.
• 4:59
  But
• 5:00
  then
• 5:00
  they
• 5:00
  say,
• 5:00
  oh,
• 5:00
  what
• 5:00
  about
• 5:01
  so
• 5:01
  and
• 5:01
  so
• 5:01
  over
• 5:01
  at,
• 5:02
  you
• 5:02
  know,
• 5:02
  watch
• 5:02
  it,
• 5:02
  you
• 5:02
  normal
• 5:03
  and
• 5:03
  you
• 5:04
  know,
• 5:04
  so
• 5:04
  anyways,
• 5:05
  it
• 5:05
  raids.
• 5:05
  It
• 5:06
  raised
• 5:06
  a
• 5:06
  bunch
• 5:06
  of
• 5:06
  different
• 5:07
  instances
• 5:08
  of,
• 5:08
  you
• 5:08
  know,
• 5:08
  kids
• 5:09
  playing
• 5:10
  who
• 5:10
  had
• 5:11
  some
• 5:11
  form
• 5:11
  of
• 5:11
  handicap.
• 5:12
  But
• 5:13
  anyways,
• 5:13
  he
• 5:13
  ends
• 5:14
  up
• 5:14
  as
• 5:14
  a
• 5:14
  sophomore.
• 5:15
  He
• 5:16
  starts
• 5:16
  and
• 5:18
  one
• 5:18
  of
• 5:19
  the
• 5:19
  cool
• 5:19
  things
• 5:19
  is
• 5:20
  against
• 5:21
  West
• 5:21
  Virginia,
• 5:22
  he
• 5:22
  managed
• 5:23
  to
• 5:23
  intercept
• 5:23
  the
• 5:24
  passenger
• 5:25
  and
• 5:25
  block
• 5:25
  a
• 5:25
  punt
• 5:26
  in
• 5:26
  the
• 5:26
  same
• 5:26
  game.
• 5:27
  So
• 5:28
  you
• 5:28
  know,
• 5:28
  not
• 5:29
  bad
• 5:29
  if
• 5:29
  you
• 5:29
  know
• 5:30
  he's
• 5:30
  doing
• 5:31
  it
• 5:31
  with
• 5:31
  one
• 5:31
  hand.
• 5:32
  As
• 5:33
  a
• 5:33
  junior
• 5:33
  he
• 5:34
  ended
• 5:34
  up
• 5:35
  being
• 5:35
  named
• 5:36
  All
• 5:36
  American
• 5:37
  by
• 5:37
  one
• 5:37
  writer.
• 5:38
  There
• 5:39
  was
• 5:39
  a,
• 5:39
  it
• 5:40
  was
• 5:40
  like
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  International
• 5:41
  News
• 5:41
  syndicate,
• 5:41
  which
• 5:41
  was
• 5:42
  a
• 5:42
  big,
• 5:42
  you
• 5:42
  know,
• 5:43
  syndicate
• 5:43
  at
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  time.
• 5:44
  And
• 5:44
  their
• 5:45
  lead
• 5:45
  football
• 5:45
  writer
• 5:46
  considered
• 5:47
  him
• 5:47
  to
• 5:47
  be
• 5:47
  an
• 5:47
  all
• 5:47
  American,
• 5:49
  you
• 5:49
  know,
• 5:49
  for
• 5:50
  sure
• 5:50
  is
• 5:50
  really
• 5:50
  well
• 5:51
  regarded,
• 5:51
  really
• 5:52
  solid
• 5:52
  football
• 5:52
  player.
• 5:54
  Unfortunately
• 5:54
  for
• 5:54
  him,
• 5:56
  his
• 5:58
  soft
• 5:58
  or
• 5:59
  his
• 5:59
  senior
• 6:00
  season
• 6:01
  was
• 6:01
  1918.
• 6:02
  So
• 6:02
  World
• 6:03
  War
• 6:03
  I's
• 6:03
  going
• 6:03
  on
• 6:05
  and
• 6:05
  most
• 6:06
  colleges
• 6:08
  were
• 6:08
  effectively
• 6:09
  taken
• 6:09
  over
• 6:09
  by
• 6:10
  the
• 6:10
  U.S.
• 6:11
  army.
• 6:11
  And
• 6:11
  they
• 6:12
  had
• 6:12
  the
• 6:13
  student
• 6:13
  army
• 6:14
  training
• 6:14
  Corps.
• 6:15
  So.
• 6:17
  And
• 6:17
  a
• 6:17
  lot
• 6:18
  of
• 6:18
  schools
• 6:18
  didn't
• 6:18
  have
• 6:19
  varsities
• 6:20
  that
• 6:20
  really
• 6:20
  varsity
• 6:21
  sports.
• 6:21
  They
• 6:22
  had
• 6:23
  SATC
• 6:24
  sports.
• 6:26
  And
• 6:26
  since
• 6:26
  he
• 6:27
  was
• 6:28
  missing
• 6:28
  his
• 6:28
  right
• 6:29
  hand,
• 6:29
  he
• 6:30
  couldn't
• 6:30
  be
• 6:31
  in
• 6:31
  the
• 6:31
  army.
• 6:31
  He
• 6:31
  couldn't
• 6:31
  participate
• 6:32
  on
• 6:32
  the
• 6:32
  SATC
• 6:34
  team.
• 6:35
  But
• 6:35
  he
• 6:35
  ended
• 6:36
  up
• 6:37
  helping
• 6:37
  coach
• 6:38
  at
• 6:38
  Camp
• 6:39
  Dix
• 6:39
  in
• 6:39
  New
• 6:40
  Jersey,
• 6:40
  you
• 6:40
  know,
• 6:40
  that
• 6:41
  season.
• 6:42
  Any
• 6:43
  event,
• 6:43
  you
• 6:43
  know,
• 6:43
  ends
• 6:44
  up
• 6:44
  leaving,
• 6:44
  you
• 6:44
  know,
• 6:44
  Dartmouth.
• 6:45
  And
• 6:47
  he
• 6:47
  coached
• 6:47
  his
• 6:48
  high
• 6:48
  school,
• 6:48
  you
• 6:49
  know,
• 6:49
  Terrell
• 6:50
  School
• 6:50
  for
• 6:50
  Boys
• 6:51
  coaching
• 6:52
  undefeated
• 6:52
  season
• 6:53
  in
• 6:53
  1919.
• 6:53
  He
• 6:54
  ends
• 6:54
  up
• 6:54
  a
• 6:54
  couple
• 6:54
  years
• 6:54
  later
• 6:55
  coaching
• 6:56
  Austin
• 6:56
  College,
• 6:58
  you
• 6:58
  know,
• 6:58
  in
• 6:59
  the
• 6:59
  Dallas
• 6:59
  area.
• 7:00
  And.
• 7:01
  But
• 7:01
  that
• 7:01
  was
• 7:01
  the
• 7:01
  only
• 7:02
  other
• 7:02
  year
• 7:02
  that
• 7:03
  I
• 7:03
  could
• 7:03
  find
• 7:03
  that
• 7:03
  he
• 7:04
  coached.
• 7:05
  So,
• 7:05
  you
• 7:05
  know,
• 7:05
  it's
• 7:06
  one
• 7:06
  of
• 7:06
  those
• 7:06
  things
• 7:06
  where
• 7:06
  each
• 7:07
  year
• 7:07
  he
• 7:07
  got.
• 7:08
  He
• 7:08
  got
• 7:08
  publicity
• 7:11
  largely
• 7:11
  because
• 7:12
  of,
• 7:13
  you
• 7:13
  know,
• 7:14
  having
• 7:15
  lost
• 7:15
  his
• 7:15
  hand.
• 7:16
  And
• 7:16
  yet,
• 7:17
  you
• 7:18
  know,
• 7:18
  he
• 7:18
  was
• 7:18
  definitely
• 7:18
  a
• 7:18
  really
• 7:19
  formidable
• 7:19
  football
• 7:20
  player,
• 7:21
  you
• 7:21
  know,
• 7:22
  and
• 7:22
  they,
• 7:23
  you
• 7:23
  know,
• 7:23
  and
• 7:24
  just
• 7:24
  if
• 7:24
  anybody
• 7:25
  names
• 7:25
  you
• 7:26
  an
• 7:26
  all
• 7:26
  American,
• 7:26
  then
• 7:27
  you're
• 7:27
  doing
• 7:28
  pretty
• 7:28
  well,
• 7:29
  so.
• 7:29
  And
• 7:29
  he
• 7:29
  was
• 7:30
  a
• 7:30
  big
• 7:30
  guy,
• 7:30
  you
• 7:30
  know,
• 7:30
  he's
• 7:30
  like
• 7:31
  195
• 7:31
  pounds,
• 7:32
  which
• 7:32
  is
• 7:32
  a
• 7:33
  pretty
• 7:33
  good
• 7:33
  sized
• 7:33
  kid
• 7:34
  at
• 7:34
  that
• 7:34
  time
• 7:34
  for
• 7:35
  a
• 7:35
  guard.
• 7:36
  So
• 7:37
  heck
• 7:37
  of,
• 7:37
  you
• 7:37
  know,
• 7:37
  heck
• 7:38
  of
• 7:38
  a
• 7:38
  player,
• 7:38
  and
• 7:38
  ends
• 7:39
  up,
• 7:39
  you
• 7:39
  know,
• 7:39
  he
• 7:39
  had
• 7:39
  successful
• 7:40
  career
• 7:40
  in
• 7:40
  oil
• 7:41
  and
• 7:41
  securities
• 7:42
  businesses
• 7:42
  and
• 7:43
  things
• 7:43
  like
• 7:43
  that.
• 7:43
  And
• 7:43
  so,
• 7:44
  you
• 7:44
  know,
• 7:44
  kind
• 7:44
  of.
• 7:45
  It's
• 7:45
  just
• 7:45
  one
• 7:45
  of
• 7:46
  those
• 7:46
  guys
• 7:46
  where
• 7:46
  you
• 7:46
  just
• 7:46
  kind
• 7:46
  of
• 7:47
  go,
• 7:47
  good
• 7:47
  for
• 7:47
  him,
• 7:48
  you
• 7:48
  know.
• 7:49
  Yeah.
• 7:49
  I
• 7:50
  mean,
• 7:50
  just
• 7:50
  sit
• 7:50
  there
• 7:50
  and
• 7:50
  think
• 7:51
  about
• 7:51
  how
• 7:51
  hard
• 7:52
  it
• 7:52
  would
• 7:52
  be
• 7:53
  to
• 7:53
  pick
• 7:53
  off
• 7:54
  a
• 7:54
  pass
• 7:54
  with
• 7:55
  only
• 7:55
  one
• 7:56
  hand.
• 7:56
  You
• 7:56
  know,
• 7:56
  that.
• 7:57
  That
• 7:57
  had
• 7:57
  to
• 7:57
  be
• 7:58
  extraordinary
• 7:59
  that
• 8:00
  he
• 8:00
  was
• 8:00
  able
• 8:00
  to
• 8:00
  do
• 8:00
  that.
• 8:00
  It's
• 8:01
  hard
• 8:01
  enough
• 8:01
  for
• 8:01
  guys
• 8:02
  to
• 8:02
  get
• 8:02
  interceptions
• 8:03
  with
• 8:03
  two
• 8:03
  hands.
• 8:04
  Yeah,
• 8:04
  yeah.
• 8:07
  As
• 8:07
  a
• 8:07
  guard.
• 8:09
  So,
• 8:09
  you
• 8:10
  know,
• 8:10
  so
• 8:10
  he's
• 8:10
  playing
• 8:10
  both
• 8:11
  ways.
• 8:11
  Right.
• 8:12
  As
• 8:12
  an
• 8:12
  offensive
• 8:13
  guard
• 8:13
  back
• 8:13
  then,
• 8:13
  you
• 8:14
  couldn't
• 8:14
  use
• 8:14
  your
• 8:14
  hands,
• 8:15
  you
• 8:15
  know,
• 8:15
  you
• 8:16
  could
• 8:16
  only.
• 8:17
  You
• 8:18
  could
• 8:18
  only
• 8:18
  be
• 8:18
  in
• 8:20
  touch
• 8:20
  with
• 8:20
  the
• 8:21
  opponent
• 8:21
  with
• 8:22
  one
• 8:22
  hand
• 8:22
  at
• 8:22
  a
• 8:23
  time,
• 8:23
  you
• 8:23
  know,
• 8:23
  and
• 8:24
  like
• 8:24
  one
• 8:24
  arm
• 8:25
  at
• 8:25
  a
• 8:25
  time,
• 8:25
  I
• 8:25
  should
• 8:25
  say
• 8:27
  so,
• 8:28
  you
• 8:28
  know,
• 8:28
  it
• 8:29
  probably
• 8:29
  wasn't
• 8:29
  as
• 8:30
  difficult,
• 8:30
  but
• 8:31
  you
• 8:31
  know,
• 8:32
  when
• 8:32
  you're
• 8:32
  trying
• 8:32
  to,
• 8:34
  you
• 8:34
  know,
• 8:34
  when
• 8:34
  you're
• 8:35
  rushing
• 8:35
  or
• 8:35
  you
• 8:36
  as.
• 8:36
  As
• 8:36
  a
• 8:36
  defensive
• 8:37
  line
• 8:37
  lineman,
• 8:38
  you
• 8:39
  know,
• 8:39
  then.
• 8:39
  Then
• 8:39
  some
• 8:40
  different
• 8:40
  deals.
• 8:40
  So
• 8:40
  I
• 8:40
  mean,
• 8:41
  that
• 8:41
  had
• 8:41
  to
• 8:41
  be.
• 8:41
  That
• 8:42
  had
• 8:42
  to
• 8:42
  be
• 8:42
  more
• 8:42
  difficult.
• 8:43
  But
• 8:44
  apparently,
• 8:44
  you
• 8:44
  know,
• 8:44
  he.
• 8:45
  He
• 8:45
  wore
• 8:45
  like,
• 8:46
  you
• 8:46
  know,
• 8:46
  the
• 8:47
  images
• 8:47
  show
• 8:48
  he
• 8:48
  wore
• 8:48
  like
• 8:49
  a
• 8:49
  boxing
• 8:49
  glove
• 8:50
  sort
• 8:50
  of
• 8:50
  thing
• 8:50
  on
• 8:50
  his
• 8:50
  hand,
• 8:51
  so
• 8:51
  it's
• 8:52
  padded
• 8:52
  and
• 8:52
  everything.
• 8:52
  But,
• 8:54
  you
• 8:54
  know,
• 8:55
  anyways,
• 8:55
  still,
• 8:56
  I
• 8:56
  just
• 8:56
  think
• 8:56
  it's
• 8:57
  just
• 8:57
  fabulous
• 8:57
  story
• 8:58
  here,
• 8:58
  you
• 8:58
  know,
• 8:58
  here's
• 8:58
  this
• 8:59
  guy
• 8:59
  that,
• 9:00
  you
• 9:00
  know,
• 9:00
  he
• 9:00
  could
• 9:00
  have,
• 9:03
  you
• 9:03
  know,
• 9:03
  avoided
• 9:04
  a
• 9:05
  sport
• 9:05
  like
• 9:05
  football,
• 9:05
  but
• 9:06
  boom,
• 9:06
  he's.
• 9:06
  He's.
• 9:07
  He's
• 9:07
  in
• 9:07
  there.
• 9:08
  You
• 9:08
  know,.
• 9:10
  There's
• 9:11
  been
• 9:11
  some,
• 9:11
  even
• 9:11
  some
• 9:12
  modern
• 9:12
  times.
• 9:13
  We
• 9:13
  just
• 9:13
  had
• 9:14
  a
• 9:14
  linebacker
• 9:15
  not
• 9:15
  too
• 9:16
  long
• 9:16
  ago,
• 9:16
  I
• 9:16
  think
• 9:16
  played
• 9:17
  for
• 9:17
  Seattle.
• 9:17
  That
• 9:18
  the.
• 9:18
  The
• 9:18
  name
• 9:19
  escapes
• 9:19
  me.
• 9:19
  I
• 9:19
  think
• 9:19
  there
• 9:19
  was
• 9:20
  two
• 9:20
  brothers
• 9:20
  and
• 9:20
  one
• 9:20
  of
• 9:20
  them
• 9:21
  was
• 9:21
  missing
• 9:21
  a
• 9:22
  hand.
• 9:22
  And.
• 9:23
  And
• 9:23
  of
• 9:23
  course,
• 9:24
  uh,
• 9:24
  the
• 9:24
  pitcher
• 9:25
  you're.
• 9:25
  From,
• 9:28
  I
• 9:28
  think
• 9:28
  it
• 9:29
  played
• 9:29
  at
• 9:29
  Miami.
• 9:30
  Yeah,
• 9:30
  I
• 9:30
  think
• 9:30
  you're
• 9:31
  right.
• 9:31
  Your
• 9:32
  name
• 9:32
  escapes
• 9:32
  you
• 9:32
  right
• 9:33
  now.
• 9:33
  And
• 9:34
  then
• 9:34
  we
• 9:34
  had
• 9:34
  that.
• 9:34
  A
• 9:35
  major
• 9:35
  league
• 9:35
  baseball
• 9:36
  PITCHER
• 9:36
  probably
• 9:36
  about
• 9:36
  30
• 9:37
  years
• 9:37
  ago
• 9:37
  that
• 9:37
  had
• 9:38
  some
• 9:38
  success
• 9:38
  with
• 9:38
  having
• 9:39
  one
• 9:39
  hand
• 9:39
  and
• 9:40
  would
• 9:40
  Change
• 9:40
  the
• 9:41
  glove
• 9:41
  off
• 9:41
  of
• 9:41
  his
• 9:42
  pitching
• 9:42
  hand.
• 9:42
  And
• 9:43
  I
• 9:43
  thought
• 9:43
  that
• 9:44
  was
• 9:44
  always
• 9:44
  amazing,
• 9:45
  something
• 9:45
  or
• 9:45
  other.
• 9:46
  He
• 9:46
  played
• 9:46
  for
• 9:46
  Michigan.
• 9:47
  Yeah,
• 9:48
  yeah,
• 9:50
  yeah,
• 9:51
  yeah,
• 9:51
  yeah.
• 9:51
  I
• 9:51
  mean,
• 9:52
  there
• 9:52
  was
• 9:52
  a
• 9:52
  kid
• 9:52
  in
• 9:52
  my,
• 9:52
  you
• 9:52
  know,
• 9:53
  my
• 9:53
  neighborhood
• 9:53
  growing
• 9:53
  up,
• 9:54
  he
• 9:54
  did
• 9:54
  the
• 9:54
  same
• 9:55
  thing.
• 9:55
  He.
• 9:56
  He
• 9:56
  was
• 9:56
  like
• 9:56
  pitcher
• 9:58
  in
• 9:58
  softball,
• 9:59
  you
• 9:59
  know,
• 10:00
  but
• 10:00
  he.
• 10:01
  He'd
• 10:01
  pitch,
• 10:02
  and
• 10:03
  that
• 10:03
  was,
• 10:03
  I
• 10:04
  believe
• 10:04
  we
• 10:05
  played,
• 10:05
  you
• 10:05
  know,
• 10:06
  slow
• 10:06
  pitch.
• 10:07
  He
• 10:08
  had
• 10:08
  to
• 10:08
  have
• 10:08
  some
• 10:08
  arc.
• 10:08
  Not.
• 10:09
  Not
• 10:09
  the
• 10:09
  beer
• 10:09
  league,
• 10:09
  you
• 10:09
  know,
• 10:10
  high
• 10:10
  loop,
• 10:10
  but
• 10:12
  so
• 10:12
  you
• 10:12
  had
• 10:13
  to
• 10:13
  have
• 10:13
  some
• 10:13
  arc
• 10:13
  on
• 10:13
  the
• 10:14
  pitch.
• 10:14
  But
• 10:14
  he'd
• 10:15
  pitch,
• 10:15
  and
• 10:15
  then
• 10:16
  he
• 10:16
  had
• 10:16
  this.
• 10:17
  And
• 10:17
  he,
• 10:17
  you
• 10:18
  know,
• 10:18
  had
• 10:18
  this
• 10:19
  move
• 10:19
  that
• 10:19
  he
• 10:20
  switched
• 10:20
  around,
• 10:21
  get
• 10:21
  his
• 10:21
  glove
• 10:21
  on
• 10:21
  the.
• 10:23
  On
• 10:23
  the
• 10:23
  other
• 10:23
  hand
• 10:24
  and,
• 10:24
  you
• 10:25
  know,
• 10:25
  I
• 10:25
  mean,
• 10:25
  field
• 10:26
  the
• 10:26
  ground
• 10:26
  balls
• 10:27
  like,
• 10:28
  basically
• 10:29
  like
• 10:29
  any
• 10:29
  other
• 10:29
  kid.
• 10:30
  He
• 10:30
  was
• 10:30
  a
• 10:30
  good
• 10:30
  athlete
• 10:30
  and
• 10:30
  stuff.
• 10:31
  So
• 10:31
  it
• 10:31
  just.
• 10:32
  He
• 10:32
  just
• 10:32
  dealt
• 10:32
  with
• 10:33
  it,
• 10:33
  you
• 10:33
  know,
• 10:34
  it's
• 10:35
  amazing.
• 10:35
  Amazing
• 10:36
  what
• 10:36
  these
• 10:37
  guys
• 10:37
  can
• 10:37
  do
• 10:37
  with
• 10:38
  not
• 10:38
  having
• 10:39
  everything
• 10:39
  that
• 10:39
  most.
• 10:40
  Most
• 10:40
  other
• 10:40
  players
• 10:41
  do
• 10:41
  have.
• 10:41
  Yeah.
• 10:42
  So
• 10:42
  very
• 10:43
  cool.
• 10:43
  So,
• 10:43
  I
• 10:44
  mean,
• 10:44
  this
• 10:44
  is
• 10:44
  another
• 10:45
  instance
• 10:45
  where
• 10:45
  you
• 10:46
  have
• 10:46
  a
• 10:46
  great
• 10:46
  story
• 10:47
  that
• 10:47
  you
• 10:47
  researched
• 10:48
  and
• 10:48
  you
• 10:48
  tell
• 10:48
  us
• 10:48
  about
• 10:49
  somebody
• 10:49
  that
• 10:50
  we
• 10:50
  probably
• 10:50
  would
• 10:50
  have
• 10:50
  never
• 10:51
  heard
• 10:51
  of
• 10:52
  unless
• 10:52
  you
• 10:52
  brought
• 10:53
  it
• 10:53
  to
• 10:53
  light.
• 10:53
  And
• 10:53
  you
• 10:54
  do
• 10:54
  this
• 10:54
  in
• 10:54
  your
• 10:54
  tidbits.
• 10:55
  Quite
• 10:55
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• 10:55
  You.
• 10:55
  You
• 10:56
  go
• 10:56
  through,
• 10:56
  you
• 10:57
  know,
• 10:57
  turn
• 10:57
  over
• 10:57
  every
• 10:57
  rock
• 10:58
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• 10:58
  stone
• 10:58
  and
• 10:58
  find
• 10:59
  these
• 10:59
  stories,
• 10:59
  and
• 11:00
  I'm
• 11:00
  amazed
• 11:01
  by
• 11:01
  them
• 11:01
  all
• 11:01
  the
• 11:01
  time.
• 11:02
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• 11:02
  maybe
• 11:02
  you
• 11:03
  could
• 11:03
  share
• 11:03
  with
• 11:03
  people
• 11:03
  where
• 11:04
  they
• 11:04
  too,
• 11:04
  can
• 11:04
  take
• 11:04
  in
• 11:04
  some
• 11:05
  of
• 11:05
  your
• 11:05
  tidbits.
• 11:06
  Yeah,
• 11:06
  you
• 11:06
  know,
• 11:06
  easiest
• 11:07
  thing
• 11:07
  is
• 11:07
  just
• 11:07
  go
• 11:07
  to
• 11:08
  footballarchaeology.com
• 11:09
  you
• 11:09
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• 11:09
  subscribe.
• 11:10
  And
• 11:11
  it's
• 11:11
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• 11:11
  substack
• 11:12
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• 11:12
  so
• 11:13
  you
• 11:13
  just
• 11:13
  enter
• 11:14
  your
• 11:14
  email
• 11:14
  address.
• 11:15
  And
• 11:15
  then
• 11:15
  every
• 11:16
  time
• 11:16
  that
• 11:16
  I
• 11:16
  publish
• 11:16
  a
• 11:17
  new
• 11:17
  story,
• 11:17
  you'll
• 11:17
  get.
• 11:18
  Get
• 11:18
  one,
• 11:18
  but.
• 11:20
  Or
• 11:20
  you'll
• 11:20
  get
• 11:20
  an
• 11:20
  email
• 11:21
  with
• 11:22
  the
• 11:22
  story
• 11:22
  in
• 11:23
  the
• 11:23
  email
• 11:24
  you
• 11:24
  can
• 11:24
  follow,
• 11:25
  in
• 11:25
  which
• 11:25
  case
• 11:26
  it'll,
• 11:26
  you
• 11:26
  know,
• 11:26
  it'll
• 11:27
  appear
• 11:27
  on
• 11:27
  the
• 11:28
  app
• 11:28
  whenever
• 11:28
  you're
• 11:29
  on
• 11:29
  the
• 11:29
  app.
• 11:30
  And
• 11:30
  then,
• 11:31
  you
• 11:31
  know,
• 11:31
  the
• 11:32
  other
• 11:32
  thing
• 11:32
  is
• 11:32
  just.
• 11:33
  I
• 11:34
  just
• 11:34
  encourage
• 11:34
  people
• 11:34
  to
• 11:35
  bookmark
• 11:35
  and
• 11:35
  feel
• 11:35
  free
• 11:36
  if
• 11:36
  they're
• 11:36
  like,
• 11:37
  when
• 11:37
  did
• 11:37
  this
• 11:37
  happen?
• 11:38
  Or
• 11:38
  when,
• 11:38
  you
• 11:38
  know,
• 11:38
  just
• 11:39
  some
• 11:39
  old
• 11:39
  football
• 11:40
  thing,
• 11:42
  you
• 11:42
  know,
• 11:43
  you
• 11:43
  can
• 11:44
  Google
• 11:44
  it,
• 11:44
  obviously.
• 11:45
  But,
• 11:45
  you
• 11:45
  know,
• 11:45
  a
• 11:45
  lot
• 11:45
  of
• 11:45
  times
• 11:47
  if
• 11:47
  you
• 11:47
  just
• 11:48
  go
• 11:48
  to
• 11:48
  my
• 11:48
  site,
• 11:48
  enter
• 11:48
  the
• 11:49
  keywords,
• 11:50
  I,
• 11:50
  you
• 11:50
  know,
• 11:50
  there's
• 11:51
  decent
• 11:51
  chance
• 11:51
  I've
• 11:52
  got
• 11:52
  something
• 11:52
  written
• 11:52
  on
• 11:52
  it,
• 11:53
  but
• 11:54
  give
• 11:54
  it
• 11:55
  a
• 11:55
  shot.
• 11:55
  Yeah.
• 11:56
  And
• 11:56
  do
• 11:56
  it
• 11:57
  that
• 11:57
  way,
• 11:57
  you
• 11:57
  know,
• 11:57
  you're
• 11:57
  getting
• 11:58
  facts,
• 11:59
  and
• 11:59
  it's
• 11:59
  not
• 12:00
  some
• 12:00
  AI
• 12:00
  thing
• 12:01
  that's
• 12:01
  making
• 12:02
  up
• 12:02
  something
• 12:02
  or
• 12:02
  putting
• 12:03
  together
• 12:03
  something
• 12:04
  doesn't
• 12:04
  belong
• 12:05
  to
• 12:05
  the
• 12:05
  facts.
• 12:06
  You
• 12:06
  know,
• 12:06
  you
• 12:06
  know,
• 12:06
  you're
• 12:06
  getting
• 12:07
  the
• 12:07
  real
• 12:07
  deal
• 12:07
  with.
• 12:07
  With
• 12:08
  Tim's
• 12:08
  work.
• 12:08
  So
• 12:09
  I
• 12:09
  highly
• 12:09
  encourage
• 12:10
  I
• 12:10
  mean,
• 12:12
  I
• 12:12
  use
• 12:12
  AI
• 12:13
  to
• 12:13
  search
• 12:13
  for
• 12:13
  stuff,
• 12:14
  but
• 12:14
  I
• 12:15
  trust
• 12:15
  but
• 12:16
  verify.
• 12:17
  I
• 12:17
  mean,
• 12:17
  I
• 12:17
  go
• 12:18
  back
• 12:18
  to
• 12:18
  the
• 12:18
  original
• 12:18
  sources
• 12:19
  and
• 12:19
  all
• 12:19
  that
• 12:19
  kind
• 12:19
  of
• 12:20
  stuff.
• 12:20
  So
• 12:21
  anyways,
• 12:22
  Right.
• 12:23
  All
• 12:23
  right,
• 12:23
  Tim.
• 12:23
  Well,
• 12:24
  we
• 12:24
  really
• 12:24
  appreciate
• 12:25
  you
• 12:25
  joining
• 12:25
  us
• 12:25
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• 12:26
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• 12:26
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• 12:26
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• 12:26
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• 12:26
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• 12:27
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• 12:27
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• 12:27
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