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A Sad Pop Tart · Armstrong & Getty One More Thing

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  Speaker 1: Eat your food like it's medicine, so you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to eat medicine like it's food. It's one more thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm strong, and one more thing that reminds me of
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  Speaker 2: the old parenting advice. If you try to be your
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  Speaker 2: kid's friends as kids, you'll end up being their parent
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  Speaker 2: as an adult. But if you're their parents a kid,
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  Speaker 2: you'll be friends when they're adults.
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned that some people the other day on Your
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  Speaker 1: Behalf gave you the credit for it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't come up with it, but thank you.
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  Speaker 1: It is a good one.
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  Speaker 2: But the food one's good too.
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  Speaker 1: I like that. So Joe brought up the new food
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  Speaker 1: pyramid thing, and we're gonna talk about that a little more.
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  Speaker 1: But tears. Eat your food like it's medicine, so you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to eat medicine like it's food when you're older, probably.
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  Speaker 1: And then the one about when you go to the
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  Speaker 1: grocery store, just do the round the outside, stay on
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  Speaker 1: the perimeter. Stay on the perimeter. Oh interesting, that's where
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's where your meat and vegetables and fruits and
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  Speaker 1: everything are.
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  Speaker 3: It's processed. Once you start going down the middle aisle.
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  Speaker 1: Why is that?
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  Speaker 3: Because all the refrigeration and what knots on the outside
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  Speaker 3: of the store.
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  Speaker 1: Probably also, you have to replenish all that stuff like
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  Speaker 1: daily or every couple of days, and it's just easier
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  Speaker 1: to get to. That's got to be part of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, and the milk's always way at the back,
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  Speaker 2: so you have to pass all that stuff you shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: eat and hopefully succumb to temptation buy some.
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  Speaker 1: There are aisles I don't go down for that reason.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to walk. Well, I never go down
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  Speaker 1: booze aisles, but I don't mean you walk down the
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  Speaker 1: chip aisle, the cookie aisle, any of those.
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  Speaker 2: That's the funniest thing. Up until I was like in
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  Speaker 2: my thirties, I had no interest in potato chips. I
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  Speaker 2: did not like potato chips as a young kid. I
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  Speaker 2: had no interest. Now I must steer clear of the
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  Speaker 2: potato chip aisle because I see the fancy varieties that
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  Speaker 2: you're like here vinegar and sea salt, for instance, your
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  Speaker 2: Maui onion.
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  Speaker 3: Uh huh. I've been on the dill dill pickle.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, those are good.
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  Speaker 3: They're good, sister, those and the pretzels are.
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  Speaker 2: How do you stand on salt? And pepper, the love
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  Speaker 2: it cracked pepper and sea salt potato chips. Are you
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  Speaker 2: kidding me? The pepper? Who thought of pepper? What a
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  Speaker 2: great idea.
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  Speaker 4: I worked at Trader Joe's for six years and we
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  Speaker 4: had those, and I had a huge problem with getting
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  Speaker 4: a bag almost every shift with the cracked pepper.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what you were gonna say after huge
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  Speaker 1: If you're eating all those all the time, I had
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  Speaker 1: a huge problem all of it. I'm I'm a yellow
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  Speaker 1: Lais guy. I like the yellow bag of lace potato chips,
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  Speaker 1: but I do light.
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  Speaker 2: Is that not surprise me? I just wonderbread yellow lays.
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  Speaker 3: I just dip them in ketchup.
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  Speaker 1: I just love those. We had ruffles and sour cream
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  Speaker 1: and onion dip at the Super Bowl. That's like my
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  Speaker 1: crypto god. I could eat a lot of that until
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  Speaker 1: I feel horrible. When you've had too much ruffles since
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  Speaker 1: our cream onion dip, that's not a good feeling well.
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  Speaker 2: And the man or woman who can stop prior to
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  Speaker 2: feeling horrible is in control of their faculties. I am not.
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  Speaker 2: I will eat that stuff until I feel bad.
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  Speaker 1: One thing I'm pretty good at and I think some
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  Speaker 1: of it is just intellectual since learning from that sixty
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  Speaker 1: minutes piece years ago, that scientists in labs are working
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  Speaker 1: on how to trick your brain and make the taste
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  Speaker 1: disappear after just an instant so your body wants more
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  Speaker 1: of it, and all that stuff they do. I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: good at staying away from the first bite, and if
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  Speaker 1: you stay if I stay away from the first bite,
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty easy. I can easily not eat oreos or
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  Speaker 1: lace potato chips or whatever that I away from the
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  Speaker 1: first bite. Man, I have one forget it.
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  Speaker 2: You have to look at it as a hostile act.
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  Speaker 2: There are giant corporations that have employed brilliant scientists to
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  Speaker 2: get me to eat crap to make them money. Even
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  Speaker 2: if it kills me prematurely. That's a hell of a
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  Speaker 2: thing to do to another human being.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and even if it, if even you stay away
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  Speaker 1: from dying prematurely, just have a less enjoyable life, be
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  Speaker 1: you know, heavier than I want to be, not look
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  Speaker 1: as good as I want to be, not be able
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  Speaker 1: to enjoy walking as much as you know, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, pastorns.
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  Speaker 1: Just Michael, do your kids eat talkies TKI? Yeah? Sam,
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  Speaker 1: likes those super hot yeah talkies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that Their kid puked at three am after
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl having eaten talkies, and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: is that a typo? No? Wait a minute, I think
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  Speaker 2: I have heard of that.
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  Speaker 1: They make a I've never had one, but they make
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  Speaker 1: some super flaming burn a hole in your tongue hot
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  Speaker 1: talkie that my son likes.
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  Speaker 3: So I've seen them.
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  Speaker 4: Are they Are they like Cheetos or are they like bugles?
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  Speaker 4: Because I can't tell by the shape They're like a cheeto.
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  Speaker 4: Huh okay? Yeah, and I know there's a blue one.
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  Speaker 4: I was reading blue talkies right, No, thanks woo.
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  Speaker 2: They're no dill pickle potato chick.
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  Speaker 1: Got a kid with a bag of talkies and a
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  Speaker 1: Prime one of those Prime drinks. Is that what it's called? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's like drinking a Krispy Kreme donut? Is what a
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  Speaker 1: Prime is? Like? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: What is it with you youngsters? What's wrong with a
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  Speaker 2: butterscotch candy and a nice butter.
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  Speaker 1: Milk A cup of buttermilk? Hell?
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  Speaker 2: But of eating?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: So I mentioned this fairly briefly during the radio show,
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  Speaker 2: but I thought it was worth delving into a little
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  Speaker 2: more detail. There is a giant new study underway just underway,
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  Speaker 2: I think National Institutes of Health one hundred and eighty
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  Speaker 2: nine million dollar study, one of the most ambitious nutrition
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  Speaker 2: research projects ever, and they're hoping to get Americans healthier.
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  Speaker 2: The advice and diets and the rest of it cut
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  Speaker 2: through years of confusion about nutrition guidance. They mentioned that
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  Speaker 2: chronic diseases linked to our diets are on the rise.
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  Speaker 2: I just saw a uterine cancer is increasing. No cancers
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  Speaker 2: should be increasing at this point, none, but it is
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  Speaker 2: for a couple of reason. It's number one, fewer women
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  Speaker 2: are getting their uteruses removed for various somewhat interesting medical reasons,
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  Speaker 2: but also just obesity. Obesity leads to cancer, which is
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  Speaker 2: under spoken about anyway. They mentioned chronic diseases linked to
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  Speaker 2: our diets are on the rise. Sometimes conflicting advice hasn't helped.
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  Speaker 2: Remember the low fat craze right, and has resulted in
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  Speaker 2: little improvement in our help.
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  Speaker 1: A low fat craze is what made us all eat
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  Speaker 1: so many carbs.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah. The percentage of US adults ages twenty and
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  Speaker 2: over with obesity is forty two percent according to the CDC.
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  Speaker 2: That's up from thirty percent twenty five years ago. About
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  Speaker 2: fifteen percent of American adults have diabetes, up from ten
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  Speaker 2: percent twenty years ago according to CDC data. So this
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  Speaker 2: NIH study will involve ten thousand participants in total, some
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  Speaker 2: of whom are signing up for measures like monitors that
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  Speaker 2: follow them and make sure they don't eat smuggled food,
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  Speaker 2: or special eyeglass attachments to record what they eat.
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  Speaker 1: Jeez, wow, I don't think I need that. I know
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  Speaker 1: what I eat. I need the I need a minder
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  Speaker 1: or a monitor or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Well, now this is the people in the study as
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  Speaker 2: they're trying to get good solid data on what effect
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  Speaker 2: various diets have on you, so they can't have people
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  Speaker 2: cheating and messing up the data.
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  Speaker 1: But I like the idea of hiring someone to knock
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  Speaker 1: stuff out of my hands. Sure, flap it out of
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  Speaker 1: your grip, Like I tell my kids all the time.
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  Speaker 1: If I ever eat this again, punch me in the throat.
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  Speaker 1: Well have you ever seen me eating this again? Punch
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  Speaker 1: me in the throat?
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  Speaker 2: Wow?
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  Speaker 4: Wow, you know I'm having a thought with what you said,
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  Speaker 4: really quick, Joe, about women and obesity online, there is
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  Speaker 4: non stop body positivity with these women that weigh three
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  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty four hundred pounds. Yeah, and they're out
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  Speaker 4: there in their underwear, and if you go to the comments,
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  Speaker 4: there are hundreds of comments, you're beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: What outfit is that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: You make me feel strong?
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  Speaker 4: And it's all these women that are looking at that
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  Speaker 4: and going, oh, she looks like me.
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  Speaker 3: You don't see that with men online.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't. That's interesting. I noticed that the New
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  Speaker 1: York Times now all their fashion stuff for women. Most
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  Speaker 1: of it they use average, like actual average, like going
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  Speaker 1: to Walmart looking around average people two above for their
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  Speaker 1: you know, what are the best genes for this season?
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  Speaker 1: And instead of models and genes, it's average to above.
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  Speaker 1: And I can't figure out if I think that's a
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  Speaker 1: good idea or not. Well, on one hand, I can
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  Speaker 1: easily make the argument that it makes more sense, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is what people actually look like, so it's what
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  Speaker 1: genes look like for that. But I don't know were
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  Speaker 1: we better off when we were all I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: there was a there was an unattainable goal out there
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  Speaker 1: or look or something like that, as opposed to let's
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  Speaker 1: just give up.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, just from like the female's world too.
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  Speaker 4: We used to have specialized stores, like plus sized stores
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  Speaker 4: that you would go to for these things. And now
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  Speaker 4: every website I go to, if I go to click
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  Speaker 4: on something I want to purchase, it goes from a
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  Speaker 4: small to a five XL.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just it's accepted. I don't know well.
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  Speaker 2: And to respond to you, Jack, the idea that we
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  Speaker 2: can either have unattainable goals or anything goes I mean
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  Speaker 2: as usual. I see a lot of middle ground there.
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  Speaker 2: Could we take a look at that perhaps? Anyway, if
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  Speaker 2: all goes according to plan in this study, in a
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  Speaker 2: few years, you'll be able to walk into your doctor's office,
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  Speaker 2: get a few simple medical tests, answer questions about your
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  Speaker 2: health and lifestyle, and receive personalized diet advice. And here's
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  Speaker 2: the part that I found especially interesting. Scientists agree broadly
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  Speaker 2: on what constitutes a healthy diet. Have you on veggies, fruit,
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  Speaker 2: whole grains, lean protein, But more search research is showing
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  Speaker 2: that different people respond differently to the same foods like
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  Speaker 2: bread or bananas.
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  Speaker 1: Bananas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, let's see they mentioned something doing me in
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  Speaker 2: all these years.
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  Speaker 1: Too many bananas. I knew it. It's not the gravy
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  Speaker 1: and the donuts.
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  Speaker 2: Cinnamon rolls up.
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  Speaker 1: I hate me too many bananas. I'll cut back.
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  Speaker 2: Cookies the size of pie plates, exactly whole pies. The
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  Speaker 2: study cookie plates aren't going with any particular hypothesis about
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  Speaker 2: which foods are best. Instead, they'll take the vast amounts
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  Speaker 2: of data they're collecting to create algorithms that they hope
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  Speaker 2: can predict what a particular diet will do for any
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  Speaker 2: one of us. They're recruiting participants with a rage of
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  Speaker 2: range of ages, ethnicities, backgrounds, and health conditions to make
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  Speaker 2: sure the results apply broadly.
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  Speaker 1: On on one hand, I know what I could do
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  Speaker 1: that would be better. I mean, it's pretty obvious you
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  Speaker 1: don't need a lot of research. But on the other hand,
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  Speaker 1: there have been so many different things thrown out there.
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  Speaker 1: It's easy to like just use as an excuse to
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  Speaker 1: ignore it because it's just so many different things. It'd
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  Speaker 1: be nice if we had like one very simple, concrete
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  Speaker 1: decided upon. Maybe that's what they're shooting for here.
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  Speaker 2: M hm. So one more anecdote from this, because I
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  Speaker 2: thought this was interesting. It's a dude I can't remember
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  Speaker 2: his first name, but he was encouraged to consume every
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  Speaker 2: last morsel of his frosted flakes breakfast down to the
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  Speaker 2: sugary milk left behind in the cereal bowl. So he's
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  Speaker 2: eating like a high carb sugary diet. To see what
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  Speaker 2: it does to him.
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  Speaker 1: I had a bowl of them nine before last frostate flakes.
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  Speaker 1: Drank the milk like a child. Anyway, scientists at the facility,
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  Speaker 1: I want to know exactly how much he's eating of
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  Speaker 1: his carefully designed meal. He wore a heart monitor, a
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  Speaker 1: device to record his physical activity, and a continuous glucose
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  Speaker 1: monitor to measure blood sugar.
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  Speaker 2: An IV stuck out of his hand nine times. Over
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  Speaker 2: the next four hours, A technician drew his blood to
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  Speaker 2: measure his body's response to the meal, including his insulin
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  Speaker 2: and glucose levels, along with dozens of other metrics. He
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  Speaker 2: gave samples of urine, stool, and saliva. Scientists had already
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  Speaker 2: collected specimens of his hair and nails and put him
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  Speaker 2: through a DEXA scan. I think that's bone density, a
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  Speaker 2: full body X ray that quantifies the amounts of fat,
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  Speaker 2: bone and muscle. Oh, they explain what it is.
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  Speaker 1: I give everybody a stool sample where they asked for
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  Speaker 1: it or not. Suck to the doctor I showed up
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  Speaker 1: to the doctor with the stools ample. I give it
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  Speaker 1: to the receptionists.
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  Speaker 2: So this is incredibly thorough.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder if I was hooked up to some
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  Speaker 1: sort of something with an IV and all these different
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  Speaker 1: stuff while I'm eating everything, that maybe that would make
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  Speaker 1: a difference on me. If I actually could see, this
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  Speaker 1: is what it's doing to you, this is what's doing
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  Speaker 1: to your body. This is the percentage of this and
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  Speaker 1: that done. Blah blah blah, or you could go with this.
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  Speaker 2: He was on day thirteen of his largely ultra processed
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  Speaker 2: diet when he had his blood drawn around his frosted
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  Speaker 2: flakes breakfast. The diet resembled what he typically eats at home,
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  Speaker 2: actually a lot of convenience foods. He said. He felt
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  Speaker 2: more tired than usual, especially during exercise, just not feeling great.
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  Speaker 2: He said, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Actually I actually I would do worse if I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have kids. I do better because I got to get
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  Speaker 1: my kids a meal with a vegetable or something in it.
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  Speaker 1: It's like if you own a dog. People who own
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  Speaker 1: dogs walk more because you got to get your dog out.
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  Speaker 1: Having kids, I eat because if I didn't have a kid,
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  Speaker 1: where I gotta. I won't make my kids eat some
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  Speaker 1: crappy meal with no vegetable or anything like that at night,
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  Speaker 1: but if they weren't there, I would for me way
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  Speaker 1: too much. Yesh, effort, it's not so much taste with me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's effort.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big part of it. Yeah, yeah, it is
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  Speaker 2: so effortless. To a pop tart, a pop tart planet,
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  Speaker 2: he's eleven years old. Eleven, Yeah, forever eleven, the Jack
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  Speaker 2: Armstrong Story.
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  Speaker 1: Forever eleven. A pop tart straight out of the toaster.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's delicious, sad.
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  Speaker 2: It's a pop tart. And then to Mike Flurry, well,
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  Speaker 2: I guess that's it.