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What to Know: The Released Epstein Files | 2025 Holiday Stress Survey · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty the South. Better stop singing about Epstein cover.
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  Speaker 1: You don't talk about KFI AM six forty you will
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  Speaker 1: handle here.
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  Speaker 2: It is a Monday morning, December twenty two, and we
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  Speaker 2: still have a ton of news. A lot of it,
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  Speaker 2: and I mean big time has to do with the
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  Speaker 2: initial release of the Epstein files. The other bit of
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  Speaker 2: news is the fact that we have a massive storm
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  Speaker 2: coming in and all the southern California is going to
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  Speaker 2: float out to see. But we'll be talking about that
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  Speaker 2: throughout the show and throughout the day. Back to the
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  Speaker 2: Epstein files, and this is a cluster truck for the.
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  Speaker 1: The Trump administration.
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  Speaker 2: They have one point that I'm going to make, which
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  Speaker 2: I agree with them, but I'll bring that up in
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  Speaker 2: a minute. So back the latest batch of these files
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  Speaker 2: were released. Now, this is after the President signed a
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  Speaker 2: congressional order in which all of the files would be
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  Speaker 2: released within thirty days, and the administration waited until virtually
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  Speaker 2: the afternoon of the last day to release the files.
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  Speaker 2: Were all of them released pursuant to that law, No,
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  Speaker 2: of course not. And prior to that, I said, most
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  Speaker 2: of them are not going to be released based on
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  Speaker 2: the fact that Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, is going
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  Speaker 2: to declare these are under investigation and therefore we can't
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  Speaker 2: release them.
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  Speaker 1: And that didn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: But it was just a partial release, and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of victims and advocates criticized the batch because it was
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  Speaker 2: heavily redacted and didn't didn't contain revelations, and some lawmakers
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  Speaker 2: said that the Department's failure to meet a thirty day
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  Speaker 2: deadline as imposed by Congress, meant that the Trump administration
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  Speaker 2: simply didn't adhere to the law. So here's what happened.
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  Speaker 2: The initial release, Department removes from the online collection a
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  Speaker 2: small number of photographs inside Epstein's home. One of them
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  Speaker 2: shows a credenza with a number of pictures on the
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  Speaker 2: credenza or at least in a drawer, including at least
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  Speaker 2: one of Trump, immediately raising questions about whether the administration
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  Speaker 2: was seeking to shield the president or not. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: that was later reposted without comment on the well, the
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  Speaker 2: comment was, we looked at it and we found there
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  Speaker 2: was no wrongdoing by the president and is to protect
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  Speaker 2: everyone involved, especially the victims. Now, the Justice Department said
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  Speaker 2: more documents would be released in the coming weeks, and
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  Speaker 2: it is complying with this law, bipartisan law that required
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  Speaker 2: the entire record, with very few exceptions, to be released,
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  Speaker 2: which the administration had promised to do, and it didn't do.
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  Speaker 1: What a shocker.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanche, who is the
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  Speaker 2: guy who went out and interviewed Julane Maxwell by the
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  Speaker 2: way in prison, and then all of a sudden, after
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  Speaker 2: the interview, she gets transferred to a minimum security prison,
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  Speaker 2: which no sexual predator ever is. Anyway, he said that
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  Speaker 2: the Justice Department is trying to comply, but it was
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  Speaker 2: a gargantuan task and it had to be done very
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  Speaker 2: carefully to protect the victims. And then he went on
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  Speaker 2: to say, you're talking about a million pages or so,
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  Speaker 2: and virtually all of them contained victim information, and they're
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  Speaker 2: going out of their way to protect the victims. Now,
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  Speaker 2: he said the administration would not remove any mention of
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  Speaker 2: Trump from the files as they continue to be released
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  Speaker 2: in the coming weeks. Well, let me ask you, if
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  Speaker 2: there is nothing untoward, if it shows that Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: did not engage in any of those horrific acts of
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  Speaker 2: child the predation that right, the word that he is
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  Speaker 2: not a predator or was aware of or obviously engaged,
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  Speaker 2: and that that is terrible, that would cause him his presidency.
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  Speaker 1: Why did they fight to keep it to protect the victims?
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  Speaker 1: You know, that wasn't the case before.
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  Speaker 2: Protecting the victims was never in the cards, not when
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  Speaker 2: the administration was going when it wasn't the administration during
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  Speaker 2: the campaign, when it was pushing very hard for the
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  Speaker 2: Biden administration to release those file. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: that was part of Donald Trump's campaign where he said
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  Speaker 2: the files, the files, and the Republicans kept on saying
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  Speaker 2: the files, the files. Why isn't Joe Biden releasing the files?
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  Speaker 2: And that, by the way, is a very good question,
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  Speaker 2: because if Biden had those files and he's running against
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump, why wouldn't you release those files if there
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  Speaker 2: was a problem with Donald Trump? I mean, that would
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  Speaker 2: give him information that would give the Republicans some ammunition.
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  Speaker 1: So that's a question.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, he said a million pages and this is
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  Speaker 2: Todd Blanche and that the administration would not remove any
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  Speaker 2: mentions of Trump as they continued to be released in
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  Speaker 2: the coming weeks.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you believe that I do not.
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  Speaker 2: There is no question in my mind that any negative
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  Speaker 2: information about Trump is not going to be released, which
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  Speaker 2: again I don't understand why would you hide the files.
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  Speaker 1: If that's the case, wouldn't you just release them?
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  Speaker 2: And even Republicans in Congress and members of MAGA his
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  Speaker 2: base are saying, you got to release all of files.
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  Speaker 1: This is not political, guys.
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  Speaker 2: This is connected to a man who raped and trafficked
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  Speaker 2: fourteen year olds, and yet somehow it's become a political issue.
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  Speaker 2: So later on, this is Sunday, the Justice Department republishes
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  Speaker 2: the deleted image of that credenza and saying there was
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  Speaker 2: no evidence that any victims are depicted in the photograph,
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  Speaker 2: and it was reposted, no alteration, no redaction. Now, who
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  Speaker 2: is fighting to have those files be made public released?
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  Speaker 2: How about Representative Thomas Massey, Kentucky Republican wrote that original
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  Speaker 2: legislation about the Epstein files being released, and you've got
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  Speaker 2: Republicans just lined up. Massey said that he believed the
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  Speaker 2: most expeditious to get justice for these victims is to
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  Speaker 2: bring contempt against Pam Bondi because she is the one
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  Speaker 2: that's holding the files and she has been all over
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  Speaker 2: this story why because she was asked about it and
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  Speaker 2: she said, yep, the files are on my desk and
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to look at him. And then the files
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  Speaker 2: didn't exist, and then the files have to be looked
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  Speaker 2: at and will release some of them, but not all
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  Speaker 2: of them. And then it took an Act of Congress
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  Speaker 2: to force the issue, and still the.
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  Speaker 1: Files are not being released in totality.
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  Speaker 2: And so what Massey and others are saying, We're going
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  Speaker 2: to hold Pambondy in in contempt of Congress. That's what
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  Speaker 2: we're going to do. Because there it is. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to take a break. I want to talk about the
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  Speaker 2: reaction from the right from MAGA as well as moving
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  Speaker 2: on with holding.
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  Speaker 1: Pambondy in contempt.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this thing is blowing up on the Republican
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  Speaker 2: side and it is not helping the Trump administration.
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  Speaker 1: At all, and is very easy answer. It is.
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  Speaker 2: But the Trump administration certainly isn't following that line of thinking.
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  Speaker 2: They're just not doing it okay, the Epstein files. As
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  Speaker 2: I said, keep in mind that the Epstein release of
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  Speaker 2: the Epstein files was a huge campaign issue for the
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  Speaker 2: Trump campaign. As a matter of fact, Trump ran on
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  Speaker 2: that as addition to inflation and a few other points.
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  Speaker 1: And so the right wing supporters of Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Have traditionally been among the most ardent advocates for releasing
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  Speaker 2: the files. Why because they were convinced that the documents
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  Speaker 2: would have evidence that there was a cabal of prominent men,
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  Speaker 2: mostly Democrats, of course, had joined Epstein in abusing the
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  Speaker 2: young women and covering up their crimes. All right, so
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  Speaker 2: the files are released, no evidence whatsoever of a cabal
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  Speaker 2: or even Donald Trump having done anything wrong. So all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden, they shut up. All of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: Now we're not talking about it. They won't even respond
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  Speaker 2: to it. By the way, even Trump throughout the weekend
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  Speaker 2: and Donald Trump responds to everything, refrain from commenting at all.
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  Speaker 2: They're hoping this disappears, and it is not going to disappear,
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  Speaker 2: not at all.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of those files that were released.
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  Speaker 2: Included some of Trump's most prominent political adversaries, including President
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  Speaker 2: Bill Clinton, and again no evidence whatsoever. There is a
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  Speaker 2: photo of Clinton that was made up public and this
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  Speaker 2: was after Trump ordered the Justice Department last month to
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  Speaker 2: investigate any ties between the former president cident and other Democrats.
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  Speaker 1: This is all about Democrats.
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  Speaker 2: If there's any wrongdoing, it is the Democrats who were
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  Speaker 2: connected to Epstein and were part and parcel of either
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  Speaker 2: being involved, which of course they weren't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even think he made that accusation or covering
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  Speaker 1: it up.
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  Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, note doesn't exist, and the well,
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  Speaker 2: the White House, this is Friday, try to make some
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  Speaker 2: political Hey, Abigail Jackson, Whitehouse spokeswoman, said, we did see something,
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  Speaker 2: She writes in a social media post above the image
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  Speaker 2: of Clint A. Clinton in a hot tub. We did
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  Speaker 2: see something, just not what you wanted, no context, nothing,
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  Speaker 2: just him in a hot tub. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: if you look at the Epstein photos, who he ran circle,
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  Speaker 2: ran around with, in his circle, his orbit, Michael Jackson,
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  Speaker 2: and you've got Woody Allen, you have Bill Clinton.
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  Speaker 1: You have so many figures.
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  Speaker 2: If there's a big name, it's there on both sides
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  Speaker 2: of the aisle. And it's just people who are famous.
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  Speaker 2: And we do know that Epstein and Trump were close
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  Speaker 2: friends for years, and then the President's reluctance to release
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  Speaker 2: those files, all of a sudden people were speculating about
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  Speaker 2: whether they prominently featured Trump.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I think is happening.
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  Speaker 2: And this is simply my guess and why the administration
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  Speaker 2: is so reluctant to now share these files after they
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  Speaker 2: insisted they were going to and demanded they be released
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  Speaker 2: all of.
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  Speaker 1: A sudden, oops, maybe not.
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  Speaker 2: Is that it's going to show the president much closer
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  Speaker 2: to Epstein than was previously thought or.
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  Speaker 1: Reported any wrongdoing. I don't believe it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any evidence connecting him to the
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  Speaker 2: section will Epstein being a sexual predator, having anything to
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  Speaker 2: do with having sex with young women and part of
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  Speaker 2: the trafficking, and I don't believe that for a second.
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  Speaker 2: But I do believe that you're going to see Epstein
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  Speaker 2: and Trump very close and taking pictures with a lot
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  Speaker 2: of these women. And the reason I don't think so is,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, I'm not talking morality here. It's simply
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  Speaker 2: the evidence that we have Epstein's brother and they were
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  Speaker 2: a strange said that when Epstein and Trump used to
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  Speaker 2: hang together, what they used to do is hang with models.
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  Speaker 1: That's Trump's thing is models in their twenties.
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  Speaker 2: Not anybody younger, not anybody older, just these gorgeous women
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  Speaker 2: in their twenties. And that's so who Epstein and Trump
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  Speaker 2: would frolic with. But we sort of knew that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: does anybody not know who the president was when he
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  Speaker 2: was elected? I mean, was that any kind of news?
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  Speaker 1: It was not so.
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  Speaker 2: In the meantime, Pam Bondi, who is at the head
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  Speaker 2: of all this, she's holding those files?
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  Speaker 1: Is the Department of Justice who has those files? She
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  Speaker 1: can release them.
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  Speaker 2: She is being very cagey about it, to the point
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  Speaker 2: where Congress, a couple of Congress people are looking to
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  Speaker 2: file or hold her in contempt of Congress because the
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  Speaker 2: files have not been released in total, even though it
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  Speaker 2: was promised to be released, even though the administration said
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  Speaker 2: they were going to be released, all of a said, no,
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  Speaker 2: We're going to see what happens in the next few days.
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  Speaker 1: About that, all right.
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  Speaker 2: There is a survey, a holiday stress survey that's done
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  Speaker 2: every year, and this is the twenty twenty five survey.
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  Speaker 2: It comes out of an organization called New Growth Therapy.
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  Speaker 2: And here is what the survey says. And it's about
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  Speaker 2: you and me. And this is mainly I think aimed
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  Speaker 2: at Amy, mainly because the plane on the strain and
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  Speaker 2: Amy that doesn't work in any case for a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people.
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  Speaker 1: The holidays are the.
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  Speaker 2: Best time of the year, like Amy's case, but at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, keeping your head above water is not
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  Speaker 2: so easy. And Amy point this out or respond spending
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  Speaker 2: socializing in November and December can really be a challenge.
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  Speaker 1: Is that fair to say?
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  Speaker 2: Hmm?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. The survey found that a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of people will try to put on a happy face. Eh,
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  Speaker 2: you you may actually feel overwhelmed. I can see how
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  Speaker 2: overwhelmed you are, Amy, You are dripping with overwhelmingness. I
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  Speaker 2: can yeah, yeah, I can actually see it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm totally not.
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  Speaker 3: My Christmas shopping is done, everything's ready to go. The
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  Speaker 3: only thing stressful now is in my cat sick, So
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out, you know, what am I
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  Speaker 3: gonna do with her?
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  Speaker 2: What else do you do with the said cat? What
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  Speaker 2: do you think do you take care of? There's a
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  Speaker 2: holiday gift for you, you put it down Merry Christmas?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well that alarts me out. Thanks a lot, Bill.
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  Speaker 1: See there you go? All right?
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  Speaker 2: So here are some stats I want to throw at you,
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  Speaker 2: because this gets pretty serious. Thirty two percent of us
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  Speaker 2: feel worse mentally or emotionally during the holiday season. No
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  Speaker 2: surprise there, Family and relationship dynamic. Thirty six percent are
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  Speaker 2: a negative weather or reduced daylight affecting your mood. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the weather certainly, and then we're still in the standard
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  Speaker 2: time and I know people that are still reeling from that.
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  Speaker 2: Financial pressure is interesting enough, only thirty percent of folks
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  Speaker 2: and financial pressures.
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  Speaker 1: And we've been doing.
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  Speaker 2: Stories on so many people that are suffering now and
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  Speaker 2: because of inflation and there it's just not a good time.
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  Speaker 2: And so thirty four percent talk with friends, family, and coworkers,
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  Speaker 2: and even that puts added stress on you. And why
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  Speaker 2: because in reality, I want to point this out. You
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  Speaker 2: may not know this, you may be fooling yourself, but
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  Speaker 2: your friends, your family, your coworkers are a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: losers and what they're They're out.
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  Speaker 1: There to make you feel miserable. Do you understand that?
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  Speaker 2: And when you finally get that, you're on your way
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  Speaker 2: to mental health. A lot of stress, okay, And the
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  Speaker 2: stress and no surprise here builds quicker for people who
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  Speaker 2: have to manage multiple high priority needs all at once, work, family,
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  Speaker 2: their own health, taking care of parents. So you would
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  Speaker 2: think gen xers forty five to six years old, they
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  Speaker 2: have it the roughest raising a family caring for aging
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  Speaker 2: parents in the middle of their careers and more likely
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  Speaker 2: than other generations to say they feel worse mentally and emotionally, and.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of stress.
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  Speaker 2: I believe in the stress part of it myself because
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  Speaker 2: I see people out there, see I'm really connected to
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  Speaker 2: people feeling miserable because, as you know, I really enjoy
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  Speaker 2: your misery. That is part and parcel of my life.
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  Speaker 2: That is how I go through life. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: this is being called stressflation, the stressflation season.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of neat. I like that.
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  Speaker 2: And the bottom line is deep prioritizing therapy people who
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  Speaker 2: are in therapy. And I've been in therapy now for
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  Speaker 2: I don't know thirty years. Let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 2: Any Jew who has any amount of money is in therapy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just sort of a given. It's part
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  Speaker 2: of life. As a matter of fact, I pay for
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  Speaker 2: my therapist's therapists and it still hasn't helped. Forty six
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  Speaker 2: percent of people who have been in therapy delay or
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  Speaker 2: pause sessions at the end of the year because of
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  Speaker 2: other obligations. Not so much money, but other obligations. And
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  Speaker 2: would you guess that younger therapy clients are likely to
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  Speaker 2: deport deep prioritize therapy. Yeah, the younger you are, the
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  Speaker 2: more you're not going to go to therapy. So that's
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  Speaker 2: a big story. And then you have all kinds of
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  Speaker 2: stats which I'm not going to get into, but the
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  Speaker 2: bottom line is there are two types of people who
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  Speaker 2: talk and feel about the holidays, and so it all
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  Speaker 2: boils down to two types of people and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: People who.
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  Speaker 2: Say they enjoy the holidays and liars.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the bottom line.
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  Speaker 2: Amy, and then Will and then Kno and even Michelle.
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  Speaker 2: After the holidays are over, we're going to come back
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  Speaker 2: come first week of January, the first Monday of January,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to ask you the same question. And
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you the question who is your
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  Speaker 2: favorite character in literature?
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  Speaker 1: Really quickly?
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  Speaker 2: Let me do that, Amy, who's your favorite character in literature?
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  Speaker 1: Dude? Doo du do dud don't do? I know, I understand.
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  Speaker 1: There's a quick question. Cono, who's yours. I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 1: with JC.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, uh okay, fair enough? And uh Will your favorite
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  Speaker 2: character in all of literature?
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  Speaker 1: Tom um? What's his name?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly? Well said and good memory. And my favorite character
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  Speaker 2: at all of literature. And tell me you're not surprised
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  Speaker 2: by this is ere.
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  Speaker 1: Your fitting line is crap, I'm miserable. You're miserable. Oh man.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, a holiday tipping. That's another thing that causes a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stress. Just did a story on and stress
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  Speaker 2: during the holidays and holiday tipping.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how do you tip? How much do you tip?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that bothers the hell out of me.
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  Speaker 1: And this happens.
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  Speaker 2: Everything, no matter what house I have lived in over
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  Speaker 2: the years, and I have the paper delivered.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm one of those weird ones.
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  Speaker 2: That still have the paper delivered on weekends because I enjoy,
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  Speaker 2: you know, feeling the paper. I enjoy the tactile sensation
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  Speaker 2: of the paper and the ink coming off one of
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  Speaker 2: my fingers. And then you know the bagel I cooked
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  Speaker 2: with the black stripes on it because of the ink.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a wonderful thing. So what do
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  Speaker 1: I get?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm assuming that if you have the paper delivered,
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  Speaker 2: you get the same thing. And that is in the
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  Speaker 2: mailbox a holiday card from the paper boy or the
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: paper man or the paper whoever delivers it, paper woman
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: and in the card is an envelope that is folded
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: up and stamped with the deliverer's address and name. So
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: we can put in some cash and then give it
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: to the mail it in and so expecting a tip, Well,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I tip every year. I send back the envelope. And
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: what I do is I put in a card and
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I say, here's your tip, plant your corn in the spring.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I hate tipping like that. When it's expected, it's demanded,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: the same thing with restaurants. Look where restaurants have come,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: they've added they always sort of add a tip thing
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: for as long as I remember at the bottom, but
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: they give you suggested tips. And it used to be
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: ten percent, fifteen percent, eighteen percent. Now the restaurants are
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: putting the tip starting at starting at twenty or twenty
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  Speaker 2: two percent. And so what do I do well where
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: the tip is, I simply write are you kidding? And
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: then sometimes I add plant your corn in the spring,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: depending on how much room there is on that receipt.
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  Speaker 1: And who do you tip? I mean, that's another.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Thing, okay, the waiters you tip? Do you go get
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: your hair done? Do you tip the hairdresser? Of course
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: you do? Do you tip your gardener. Now I have
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: a gardener at home, and what I do is I
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: don't tip him. I give him a tip that ice
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: is right around the corner. That's the best tip I
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: can give him. Here's a tip for you. Don't go
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: down that street, go up this street. I don't know
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: who to tip, and most people don't, so there's a
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: list here. And of course this was given by somebody
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: wrote about this. It was in finance dot Yahoo. Babysitter nanny,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: onepical session a week's pay.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Who can afford a babysitter anymore?
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: You know, when I was growing up, it was fifty
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: cents an hour, and it was a dollar an hour.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I think when I was really young it was a
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: dollar an hour minimum wage and it was fifty cents
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: an hour. What does the babysitter cost today?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Twenty five an hour? Thirty dollars an hour.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, let the kids rock, you know, you know,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: let somebody call child protective services. Leave me alone if
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: you think I'm going to pay twenty five dollars an hour,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: and on top of that, leave a tip.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Caregiver.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I don't even want to talk about how much money
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: caregivers get house cleaner. Oh Yeah, they need a tip.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: They make more money than I do on personal trainer
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: one session. Well, I have a personal trainer, and I
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: actually work out three times a week, and I have
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: a trainer because I won't do it by myself.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I need the motivation.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I will not do one less I'm paying for it.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: It's very strange. It's a whole psychological thing. So Amy,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: do you tip during the holiday season?
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: M not really. I mean like I got for my hairdresser,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: I gave her a present instead of a tip.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's the other thing is sometimes what's appropriate is
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: not money, but a thoughtful gift.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I don't tip my mailman. I don't know my mailman,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: and I don't think I have the same one all
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a mailman. I don't tip him. I'm
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: in my new house now year two. I don't tip him,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: and we're in a mail box down the street. I
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: cannot tell you how many times I've seen my mail
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: on the on the pavement and I think I'm going
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: to have to start tipping him just so I can
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: get the mail.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I tip my mailman. You know what I do?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: No, I buy scratchers because there's a chance they might
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: win some money, and it's.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, no, that's that's actually and they're a buck
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: apiece or two dollars each.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll do a five dollars ten dollars scratcher.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then when they win five million dollars,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: you kick yourself in the ass, right, yes, true?
• 25:15
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