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Benevolent sexism is dead, women most affected | Cozy Gaming Stream · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Okay, we are alive. Hello everybody, and welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian Alison and this
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  Speaker 1: is maintaining frame Repo chill gaming stream again. Benevolent sexism
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  Speaker 1: is dead, Women most affected. Where we're going to be
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  Speaker 1: looking at Briardy Claire while trying to not get sick
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  Speaker 1: not get killed in repo at the same time. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I guess so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, your your your statement is more more topical.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, with Byrony Claire in a system or a situation
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  Speaker 2: where we are little pixelated avatars could get killed if
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  Speaker 2: we can't successfully metabolize her infra pink bullshit. Yeah, there
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  Speaker 2: we go. But yeah, I the the title is, of
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  Speaker 2: course she's calling out chivalry or chivalry is dead. While
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  Speaker 2: having spent the previous video that we watched of Byrony
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  Speaker 2: complaining about benevolent sexism, which, if you read the actual
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  Speaker 2: definitions of both are the same thing. All right, So
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  Speaker 2: last last video we got extended soliloquies monologues on Byrony
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  Speaker 2: of the horrors of benevolent sexism and how benevolent sexism
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  Speaker 2: drains women of their very essence and leaves them hollows
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  Speaker 2: husks of themselves like some kind of extra sexy vampire
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  Speaker 2: got them. And now we're going to talk about removing
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  Speaker 2: benevolent sexism. Is being harmful to women, I believe anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, my interpretation may be completely wrong. Maybe I'm
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  Speaker 2: maybe I'm I'm over exaggerating virony's ability to undercut and
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  Speaker 2: destroy and say exactly opposite things and ascribe both to patriarchy.
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  Speaker 2: So this is this is my prediction, and we'll see
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  Speaker 2: if it bears out. All right, So if you are
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm about to just I just I need to
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  Speaker 1: I need to add the game audio, the yrony audio
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  Speaker 1: really quick.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that works, Ye, that works? That work unfortunately, fortunately, No,
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think I got some sound working. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's working. I can't really tell, so I just assume
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  Speaker 2: All Right, anybody complaining?
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  Speaker 2: Everybody? All right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well everybody that's gonna play in the game.
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  Speaker 1: You should still be able to hear me, but I
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  Speaker 1: your audio is not in the game.
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  Speaker 2: So it's it's basically Norwegian. You are they?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there goes, There goes Gabriel. I'm just waiting on Lindsay.
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  Speaker 1: I'll send it again to her.
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  Speaker 3: I know I told you.
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  Speaker 3: Ye oh, there she is. There's the table. Hello, table
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  Speaker 3: all right, So they can't hear you, Alison because your
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  Speaker 3: microphone is not in period.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: Are we gonna do this the same way where we'll
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  Speaker 1: do a level and then we'll watch some time codes
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  Speaker 1: like one, okay, on here, I watched this, I watched
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  Speaker 1: the video.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, you're right, you're not working. Just give me just
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  Speaker 2: why I can talk to you, right, I just can't
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  Speaker 2: talk to them.
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  Speaker 3: You can talk to them.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get some time codes in.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want to watch a video first? Do you
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  Speaker 3: want to watch some of the video.
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  Speaker 2: With some of the video like, not a video, okay,
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  Speaker 2: a part of the video, like sure, I.
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  Speaker 3: Will play some of the video. Okay, So I got
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  Speaker 3: let me just say all right.
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  Speaker 1: So the thesis is, I'm gonna read the thesis out.
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  Speaker 1: The thesis is that chivalry, as commonly understood is a
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  Speaker 1: myth rooted in benevolent sexism and patriarchy US historically and
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  Speaker 1: presently to enforce control over women and marginalized groups under
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  Speaker 1: the guise of protection. Here are the top time codes. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I got the top time code. So let's start with.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so chivalry is bad. Chivalry is dead. That's good, right.
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  Speaker 1: Chivalry is bad because it's used, it's used to reinforce patriarchy.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And it's also dead. Yes, and that's also bad because
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  Speaker 1: you see, we shouldn't do chivalry. We should just do
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  Speaker 1: all of the things that describe chivalry without making it chivalry.
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  Speaker 3: Because then.
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  Speaker 2: Because then, because then.
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  Speaker 1: Because because Okay, look her her her ultimate argument is
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  Speaker 1: do you want me to just jump to the end
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  Speaker 1: where the argument is made is that we there shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be chivalry, but men should still sacrifice for women. We
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  Speaker 1: just can't call it that about that they should do
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  Speaker 1: it without expecting anything. We should just we should just
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  Speaker 1: be good to each other, but not like have it
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  Speaker 1: be like a you know, a societal expectation.
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  Speaker 2: But in a gendered way. We should be good, not
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  Speaker 2: not like women good to men. Specifically, men should sacrifice
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  Speaker 2: for women and create that kind of stuf social warmth
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  Speaker 2: and consideration associated with chivalry.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but we shouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: Call it that. Well, you should give it no name.
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  Speaker 2: It should just be no.
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  Speaker 3: It's communal, it's communal concern.
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  Speaker 1: It's essentially like essentially it should just be like people
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  Speaker 1: should just be good to each other because it's good,
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  Speaker 1: not because chivalry, because she assumes he's basically saying chivalry
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  Speaker 1: comes with this baggage, like where if a man is
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  Speaker 1: chivalrous to you, it's because you owe him something. It's
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  Speaker 1: like the nice guy thing. And so like, if we
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  Speaker 1: removed any expectation and everyone is just nice to each
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  Speaker 1: other all the time, unconditionally, at least that's how she
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  Speaker 1: would describe.
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  Speaker 3: It, then we would live in a better world.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So chivalry is bad because because men use it
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  Speaker 1: to dominate women or something and protect them, which is
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  Speaker 1: a form of domination, I suppose.
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  Speaker 2: So okay, if I get this right, men should be chivalrous,
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  Speaker 2: but not hold it against women. Is that what it means?
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  Speaker 3: Not any and nobody should.
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  Speaker 2: Recognize that men are expected to be chivalrous or use
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  Speaker 2: the word or reference it at all. So essentially men
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  Speaker 2: boys should learn to do these behaviors by some form
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  Speaker 2: of osmosis, proves presumably from their single mothers. Yeah, okay, hmmm,
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  Speaker 2: oh okay, all right, all right, So that's that's the thesis,
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  Speaker 2: is it.
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  Speaker 3: We wanna want to play the.
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  Speaker 1: First Well, it's laid out throughout the video. Just play
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  Speaker 1: this clip, okay for this.
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  Speaker 4: Video doctor Elena Yannaga.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You may be familiar with her because she's appeared in
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  Speaker 4: quite a few videos here on YouTube. I was so
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  Speaker 4: excited that she even responded, and I'm even more excited
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  Speaker 4: to share all of this with you patrons. Were the
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  Speaker 4: ones that fight for.
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  Speaker 2: This, Yeah, I hear this. So basically, this woman has
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  Speaker 2: people in academia signing off on the things that she says,
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  Speaker 2: or at least interacting with her and not correcting her.
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  Speaker 1: That is, why would they correct her? She's there, they
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  Speaker 1: all they both have the same opinion, Alison. It's about consensus,
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  Speaker 1: and they have the consensus. So if it's coming top
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  Speaker 1: down from the feminist academia guru, then how can they
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  Speaker 1: be wrong? Like she's obviously citing her to say, this
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  Speaker 1: is how correct I am about this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out why I don't
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  Speaker 2: have audio on here?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, figure out this is it?
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  Speaker 2: I got it. There we go I was really stupid.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna mute you in repo, just on my end. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so just give me a second. I think I can
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  Speaker 1: lower you.
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  Speaker 2: Just you just yeah you can't, but yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah no I can. I can. There we go, you can.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, but you muted both the table and death right.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they know with then they muted themselves. Okay, I
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  Speaker 3: didn't do that. You guys should mute yourselves.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Okay, okay, all right, I guess the table should
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  Speaker 2: never be muted.
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  Speaker 3: Should be muted.
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  Speaker 2: The rest of the world should reorganize itself around for
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  Speaker 2: ability to speak what this is wrong? We are doing
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  Speaker 2: a hostile sexism.
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  Speaker 5: So what you're saying is that so Soviet they should
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  Speaker 5: have orient itself along the lines off the table.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, all right, So that was the first time code.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's a little bit longer than that, but
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  Speaker 1: we it's like not much. So what do you want
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  Speaker 1: to do? Do you want to do a level and
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  Speaker 1: then do another the one we're in the shop. We'll
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  Speaker 1: go through some timecodes.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do the first time code that just sort of orientated.
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  Speaker 2: Is this the end?
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna there's a little bit more. This is the
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  Speaker 1: first time code, but it's like halfway through. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: play the rest of it then, okay, and uh, I
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  Speaker 1: can do you know what I can do? I can
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  Speaker 1: maybe let me see. I don't think I can, but
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say I might be able to pipe
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  Speaker 1: the audio into into here so that everybody can hear it.
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  Speaker 2: But you want to try it, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that's gonna work. Let me let me.
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  Speaker 4: See extended and in censored version.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, maybe hold on a second, so let me see
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  Speaker 1: what my settings are are said to right now.
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  Speaker 2: So I think I can be another hostel page.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, can you guys still hear me? Yeah, you can
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  Speaker 3: still hear me, so I can do it, all right.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna play it through here, and I think
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  Speaker 3: you guys are gonna be able to hear the audio
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  Speaker 3: here let me see.
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  Speaker 4: Great a whole night's gonna say. It's probably not gonna
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  Speaker 4: be and it's a really big deal. Absolutely maybe.
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  Speaker 6: And normal.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So she's basically saying what we've been saying.
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing that's kind of Yes, the video is
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  Speaker 3: gonna echo. I'm sorry, guys, I'm I won't share it
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  Speaker 3: with the I won't share it with the with the
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  Speaker 3: check in here all the time.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so guys, you gotta you gotta just go
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  Speaker 2: watch the stream.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're gonna be getting like the delay, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: video echoing in there.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, alright.
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  Speaker 3: I mean what I could too is I could turn
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  Speaker 3: the volume down on the website.
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  Speaker 2: I think they can go.
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  Speaker 3: And our solutions. Well, you know you want to do
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  Speaker 3: it this way, so all right, so let's hear the
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  Speaker 3: remor of it, right. I hope you read that you
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  Speaker 3: called me a noble steed.
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  Speaker 4: As doctor Eleanor Yadiger replied to me, you're pretty much
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  Speaker 4: born into being a knight. Ordinary people can't become knights.
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  Speaker 4: It's a specific subset of society you need to.
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  Speaker 2: So this is this is somebody who actually does legitimate
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  Speaker 2: genealogical analysis of the peerage in in England. Well, let's see,
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  Speaker 2: let her continue.
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  Speaker 4: All right, come from the class of noble landowners. This
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  Speaker 4: doesn't mean you're necessarily wealthy and well to do, but
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  Speaker 4: obviously you're probably better off than most people in the
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  Speaker 4: very rare circumstance that you're a wealthy free peasant. Wealthy
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  Speaker 4: peasants aren't uncommon. We would say about twenty five percent
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  Speaker 4: of peasants are well off, and you have somehow distinguished
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  Speaker 4: yourself in battle when called to go to war, then
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  Speaker 4: you may be knights. But that's a really rare circumstance. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 4: you're born to a noble family and trained from an
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  Speaker 4: early age to fight because that is what is expected
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  Speaker 4: of you. The only other option for these families to
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  Speaker 4: join the clergy. It's non negotiable.
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  Speaker 2: Actually no, no, Actually men were needed for service to
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  Speaker 2: the crown are like especially, I mean this sort of
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  Speaker 2: changed over time in the earlier ages, it would be
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  Speaker 2: more and it also tap depends on which I guess
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  Speaker 2: she probably is talking about England, not the world.
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  Speaker 3: But well no, she's mostly talking about the West, like Europe.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So first of all, you can't just
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  Speaker 2: say Europe that is. And I'm not calling I'm not
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  Speaker 2: calling you out bright, I'm saying this is this is really.
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  Speaker 3: No Western Europe, I mean, but moving what's going on
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  Speaker 3: with that?
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  Speaker 2: Huh Okay, Well, okay, okay, okay, we'll we'll get we'll
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  Speaker 2: get we'll get the hang of this. All right. So
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  Speaker 2: but if you're talking about England, I know for a
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  Speaker 2: fact that men who provide significant significant service to the
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  Speaker 2: crown like surveys, surveyors, or and in a military context
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  Speaker 2: or did also military service could be considered for knighthood.
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  Speaker 2: So and I know that doesn't apply now, so what
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  Speaker 2: is she talking about now?
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  Speaker 3: No, you're talking about chivalry in general? So who are you?
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  Speaker 1: Who are you? Who are you? Okay, who are you
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  Speaker 1: saying that too? Like who are you asking? You're asking
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  Speaker 1: Brianny or you're asking the feminist that Brianny is sighting.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, you know what, they don't have a fucking clue.
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  Speaker 2: They're just gonna cite whatever they.
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  Speaker 3: Think, well supports Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There, their completely false view of reality.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's is that the whole code or basically yes,
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  Speaker 1: I mean basically the first time Code is saying that
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  Speaker 1: chivalry is about knighthood and you know, basically like she
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  Speaker 1: associated with just riding on a horse and being knighted,
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  Speaker 1: but the expectation that you are part of a certain
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  Speaker 1: social class. So she's making Brianny is using this to
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  Speaker 1: make the class argument, which is that chivalry is reserved
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  Speaker 1: for super rich and privileged of medieval times and therefore,
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  Speaker 1: you know it does it's it's kind of a myth
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  Speaker 1: and if you're not a super rich because they still
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  Speaker 1: knite people today, right, So she's saying, if you're not knighted,
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  Speaker 1: then you're that it only applies to that.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: The the interesting thing is is that that's something that
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  Speaker 1: we've also said that chivalry doesn't. It's not just how
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  Speaker 1: you treat women. In fact, that's more of a recent invention,
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  Speaker 1: but that chivalry was more like an expectation from you know,
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  Speaker 1: your your society on you as a man to like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, serve. It's like being a samurai in Japan
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  Speaker 1: or being you.
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  Speaker 3: Know or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: It's like basically you have there's an expectation that's on
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  Speaker 1: you for it, and as a consequence of that, there
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  Speaker 1: is some adoration and that comes with it. But it's
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  Speaker 1: but you know, ultimately is it It isn't about women
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  Speaker 1: at all. But Brianny is taking that idea, taking some
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  Speaker 1: of that truth, and she's using it to make a
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  Speaker 1: different argument about you know, class wealth, inequality and classism
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  Speaker 1: and you know, and and and also nights are bad
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  Speaker 1: because they abused women or abuse their power or whatever
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  Speaker 1: it is. So it's it's about she's it's about taking
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  Speaker 1: a kernel of truth around you know, knighthood. She's using
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  Speaker 1: chivalry to talk about knighthood to talk about class struggle.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's basically it in a nutshell. Do you see
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, no, yeah, yeah. And then she's basically making the
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  Speaker 2: association with uh with class privilege to discredit the entire notion.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but not the action.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: But this is what was so infuriating, Like, that's a
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: that's a relational modality move right there. Well, no, keep
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: doing the action, but we'll just name it something different
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: and change things. That changes. Nothing changes, nothing, like maybe
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: it'll put a lot more stress on men. But I
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: guess that's a non starter. Well, I mean, because think
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: about it. You change the word, well, there's no point
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: in that, just a different word. Okay, But what she
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: really wants is to probably get rid of the very
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: idea of it as a separate concept, so that we
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: don't have to acknowledge that this is an expectation that
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: we place on men and boys. Okay, am I am?
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I am I annoying you or no, you have to
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: be hard.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: It's okay, I'm a little tired.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: Uhh.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: So anyway, that's the first time code, So.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: All right, do you want to play a play.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let me see if Death Death Writer table
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Lola you guys already, yeah.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Lisa might. I don't know if she may have stepped away.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I think Abra said, yes, okay, you wanted, let's do
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: a level.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: This is level six? Whatdy is coming?
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Why are you? Why are you?
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: He's a that's because Alison's audio can't she can't hear
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: They can't hear her.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: They can't hear Alison in the game.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna turn audio in the game, even when
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I have the volume turned all the way down.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you guys can do it on your own.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: That's right, Okay, okay.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna start the level. Also, you don't
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: kill the Knights during wars. You capture them alive to
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: ask for a ransom. I mean maybe, but Briarny Claire
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: isn't isn't making She's not gonna entertain those arguments like
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: she's she's got an agenda she's making up. She's trying
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: to make the case that chivalry should be dead, men
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: should just be good to women unconditionally all the time.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: That's it, right, Yeah, that's that's all it is. That's
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: what it should be, okay, sort.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Of infuriate.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: For you.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: What's sort of infuriating is that that's what men already do.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: And it's like the chivalry, the male aspect, sorry, the
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: male part, like the deference to women part of chivalry
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that wasn't created by chivalry. Yeah, it's just it's I apologize, guys,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: but it's just sort of created by the way humans do.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get the game audio to come out again.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys. Okay, I think that's it right there.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Which why it's why it persists across cultures.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, wait, can I have this, Greta? Thanks, well, I'll
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: take that. Hold on, excuse me taking something.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this. You can still yourself, dude. I'm sorry.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm trying to work with this.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: You can turn the turn the game off. No, no,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: you can't do that.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: I can't. I I I glad. I gotta do is.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I gotta turn the game audio on and only send
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: it out to the people that are watching, but not
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the people.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, I know how to do it. Hold on a second,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: I know how to do it.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just going to wander pointlessly.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Becare just go find everybody else?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, hip, oh ship, got to change? What
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: do I do? Oh? No, that wasn't one another one
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: of us, isn't it? That was Norwegian boy?
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: Smile back.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Uh okay, So you guys should be able to hear
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: me now.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I think table got rid of that thing, the alien.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: And the game audio. Okay, I want to go.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Here's this gun, guys, Oh, the sword.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to catch off. Allison's out here somewhere.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to admire you guys from slightly afar.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: That was not.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Hide. It's a trudge. I'm gonna hide over here. How
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: much did I miss? Richard Bierre?
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: We just talked about the beginning. We talked about the beginning, right, yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: where we just laid out her thesis that she wants
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: to get rid of chivalry without getting rid of the it's.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Coming in here should be quiet. No, I don't think
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: he can.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Hear you that well, though Gabriel thinks he can. He
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't see very well either.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Just like, take some myself in the game then no, no, no,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: don't mute yourself in the game. That's missing the point
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: because say what you need to say.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, but wow, that's a.
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: Both comic and sort of sinister. Okay, what the fuck
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: he just died.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: He's looking for he's looking for something. He's looking for us.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: That's his way of looking around.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: There's something else in here.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called the animal. Oh ship, is he hitting you?
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Just get back away, back away, I'm gonna lure him away.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna lure him away.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Just wait till with an eyeball. Well it was trying
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: to hit me, but I went behind this little plinth.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you're safe. You're safe around in here.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: That was more gross than frightening.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well hold on, he's coming in. He's coming
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: in here, he's heading back. I'm gonna try and get
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: his attention here. Oh boy, I hope he didn't kill anybody.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Oh hey, bud, oh boy, he's following me. Okay in
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the charges over here, Gabriel, your audio is breaking up
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: really bad.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's what I noticed. I think Gabriel is
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: having an internet issue, all right. So, yeah, she wants
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: to get rid of chivalry, but she doesn't want to
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: get rid of the behaviors of chivalry, and she expects
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: that there's something.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: She wants any of the recognition.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Recognition and what she would describe expectations of chivalry like that,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: like that men do something and women might like acknowledge
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: it's a good thing and reciprocate in some way. And
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: she assumes that every act of sacrifice or service that
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: men do to women is conditional, it comes with some
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: some something.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Right, and the ones that ed and men's death, Yeah,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: what was you know? Like that's conditional post h post
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: mortem gratitude, which is obvious patriarchal oppression.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Where is it over here?
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Like this? This is her entire like.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: He's coming back, He's coming back. I'm gonna close the door.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: This is not a I have no idea where I am.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna just find a place to hide to stay.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Just you're going basically in the right direction. Remember you
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: hit the tab key to look at your infant, see
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: where you are your map?
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Okay? Should I just keep going or should we wait?
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: You disappeared on me.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: I'm over here, just here, okay.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: All right?
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Well oops the fuck? I can't even get up these stairs.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Uh No, I'm getting my I'm getting the hag of it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: It's just, you know, I'm trying to awful talk. And
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: this is really demanding on my what on my fine
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: motor skills in a way that beats say, where.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Lindsay is Lindsay? Okay, is the trust coming up here?
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well what I was gonna say, he is coming.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: Say.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Shy, give give me that, give me that, give it
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Oh oh oh oh, well that's clever. Look at that.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: You're like dropping it down. I know.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Is he still there here?
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Okay? Oh you see, you see how clever that is.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Look at that?
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got it? Like the it's it's all problem solving.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: It's not that pro I mean, whenever a shocks, it's nothing.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: In building your Yeah, it's gonna.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Oh there's another one up there here, let me get it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Ah okay. So people need to realize how disgusting and
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: grasping women like this are. They don't they want the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: benefits of the things that men do without feeling any gratitude,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: which is bizarre.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: You know, in the olden days, you would just call
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: them bimbos and slots.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: In the days, I blame the store. I'm gonna get
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: the car.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: The olden day, in the olden day, Oh damn it,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: old ye.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Ye olden days.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, Yeah, so that's kind of like the theme
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: of the story. Every basically every priority Claire video seems
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: to be her like finding a new form of mate suppression.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, be careful.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Probably No, I was talking to I was talking to
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: death Rid talking.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: About Hey, I found a here. Wait wait, wait, there's
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: something in here.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I just don't want it in everybody's way. You know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I need help, help. I'm kind of just help me
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: move it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I have something, but it's quite heavy.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I have been hitting the gym. But okay, all right,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: just put it right here against Yeah, that's fine, all right,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: where are you Allison? You need help? I'm gonna get
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: the car if I'm.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Gonna no, no, it's okay.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: Let me see.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I'll see my map. I seem to be somebody is
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: coming towards me.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: How can you tell.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: What I didn't? Okay?
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, here we go, Here we go.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, here, pick it up, pick it up,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: pick it up high, Okay, put it down, put it down,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: don't let.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Go just lower it all right, Let's turn it a
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: little bit. Okay, let it go. All right, beautiful, okay, okay, yay, Yeah,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: you're getting there. You're getting there. Okay, let's get this
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: orb should be very careful with it.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna stand this up. Maybe maybe I
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: can get this to stand up inside.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: The duck.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Careful, just drop it in there. Drop it in there,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: don't touch the duck.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: I'm not chusing.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I don't have the bucket on me. It's backed by
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: the car.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: Should I get it?
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: No? No, No, it's okay. If we, if we when
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: we go back to the first extraction, I'll grab the
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: bucket and or somebody grab the bucket and put it
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: on the duck. Now that we know there's a duck
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: in here.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Gabriel is really oh ship breaking up?
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Come with me to do the first extraction. Do you
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: have anything else you?
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, babe, Okay, I'm looking. I'll follow you.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: You don't look like it. You look.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Where are Okay? I think it's not Gabriel, But where
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: are you? Brian?
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Right, I'm right here, I'm holding the cart. I'm walking
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: with it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, there you go.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna go this way.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you don't mm hmm trying to get you.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, I seem to be see where.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: I was Allison's lost again. She was just here.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not just lost. I'm intrigued by this environment.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a Yannick station some place in Oh shit, No, no, no,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: I didn't want.
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: To do that.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Wow, this is I'm on a cat.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I was gonna extract, and then I thought maybe I'll
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: just load a few things, but extract.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Can you help me pick this up? Help help help
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: me pick this up and put it back in the car.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Maybe only talk of a wife. Okay, okay, can you
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: hear me?
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: Because wait?
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait wait okay, yeah, all right, I'm gonna
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: come over here. Stand stand wait, move back. The ducks
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: go on. Never mind, I'm gonna go get the duck bucket.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm I'm out in the middle of nowhere. Oh ship,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I think something says locked. Oh it's the I think
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: it's an extraction point.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Wait, don't touch it. It is an extraction point. But
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Gabriel wants to be the one to Okay, he just
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: activated it. Is that one still locked?
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you can only have one open out of time.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: So he has a system.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: All right, so we just follow located one.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, I know.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: So you're there somewhere lay low because we're not. I
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: don't think there's anyone else near you.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: There seems to be. There's some stuff in this room.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Oh I see there's something up there. Is this the
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: right way?
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's bigger stuff. I mean there's up the stairs. Yeah,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: here we go. There's a guitar.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: That's another another of st nerve fingers sample.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They used to say live and let live. You
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: know you did?
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: You? Did?
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: You know? You did? I have located something, so I
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: put it on the.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: And after.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I found the other, I found the other extraction point.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, well you can stay there and we'll make our
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: way to you eventually, or you can try to find us.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: No, I've already found you. I put something on your
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: curt Oh.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, see I can't tell because I hear your voice
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: like you're right here, because we're you're in the chat.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: With me right here, So you guys are okay. I'm
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: going to walk towards you, trying to avoid falling off
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: into the pit. I'm right here. I think that's Gabriel.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Is it yelling at you?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: No, he's not yelling at it's a different.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: I'm not in his way.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I got a destructible drone. I bet we can get this.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I'm right here, Alison behind you, yeah, right here, this
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: big guy right here. Oh look, there's some here's some
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: s Yeah, here's some s sr eyes.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: It's okay. I don't want to go too far because
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I found the right over here.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, we're working on one right now. We're
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: just putting some stuff in the cart.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me see. I'm gonna go back.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: And here's this was true. Here's a saw. But put
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: the feather drone on this. Yeah, I do. I got
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: it right here. Thank.
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: Oh oh fuck, what's happening?
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: I think somebody is dying. I died, Oh, Alison died.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I fell into a pit. I was slightly distracted by
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Norwegian screaming.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Oh it's the pepa.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm in the pit.
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: Okay, well we'll.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Get we'll get you. I went the wrong way, hold
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: on all right, so yeah, did you fall? We'll find you.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I did indeed fall in the pit. Yes, I'm not
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: blaming you Norwegian, but I found you screaming quite distracting
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: that with all the with and uh, okay, let me
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: see what I've what I've come across with the analysis
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: of the night stuff. So I feel like it's full
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: of crap and history is something I like. Yeah, okay, right.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Medieval knights were not egalitarian protectors. They were a warrior
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: class drawn from the ability, trained to fight, and loyal
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: primary primarily to their lord. The Church did attempt to
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: restrain their violence from moral instruction, and the romanticized image
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: of the noble knight is substantially a Victorian. The Victorians
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: did retroject, retroject, not eject retroject.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: I was gonna get it.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Their own gender ideology into the medieval period Autherian letters
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: of Chivalry to serve their purposes.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Well, how much is it worth.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Presents?
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Put it on the don't put it on the attraction point,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: put it down the floor.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: The presenter's historian source is correct that the Victorian model
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: of separate spheres women as domestic men development. Okay, you
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: got can you hear me, Brian.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: And the people listening can hear Yes, they can hear you.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, So it's a relatively new development being presented as
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: an ancient tradition. Yeah, like lots of lots of lots
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: of things are presented at as eight tradition, like the
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: fifties house housewife. The shipwrecked data she cites is also
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Oh god, she cited the shipwrecked data, uh is also real.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: The study of Illander and xci and found that crew
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: and captain survived at higher rates than passengers, and that
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: women and children did not systematically survive at higher rates
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: the men across the whole data set of marine disasters.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Birkenhead drill was the exception that was just the actual
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: analysis of the shipwreck disasters. They did a lot of
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: stuff to manipulate that. It's funs. The reason why men
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: are more likely to survive maritime disasters is because they're
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: more likely to be crewe and crew are more likely
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: to survive. But if you look at passengers, women are
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: more likely to survive, right, So this is absolutely And
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: also they mixed in situations where there couldn't actually be
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: in order for women and children to get off first
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: because it happened too fast, right, And so's there's a
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: lot of confounds that they didn't actually look into, and
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: therefore what they're presenting is actually very misleading. Come yeah,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: and hmmm, sorry.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Table, there's a few things in the other room.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: We should try to get them I'm gonna move this.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Should should I try? I need help with it, though,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: help me pick this up. Allison's not helping at all.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I'm dead right here.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: No, you're back, I'm back.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, then I have to stop my discussion of
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: this to help.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna put it right there. Let's not knock
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: it off the pit. Look, this is kind of a
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: precarious area. What we're gonna bring that.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: We're gonna bring the cart over here. Allison just stayed there. Okay,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: mind mind that.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's another one of these. Yeah, let me just
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: put it down right here, just lightly gingerly.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: It's an explodey barrel, you know, m it's one of
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: those video game ben I don't know actually know if
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: it actually explodes. But and there's a dog bowl and
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: uranium dog bowl.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: I guess if you if the fuel insigned to burn
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: fast enough, then it could probably Wait, can do this.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: USB's in the car. She's kind of like taking up space.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, do you want me to get out? I'm
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: just doing an analysis.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Now, It's fine. Is there anything else? Okay, there's yeah,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: let's uh we can throw Yeah, let's let's extract, all right,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Allison on what you want the you want that the jackhammer?
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Should I.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think that's worth it. Let's just put
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the barrel in there and then and then go Gabriel's
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: breaking up.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Lindsay dropped. Lindsay dropped, Yes as getting fun.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Out of the car. Okay, well.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: You're so angry, Yes.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Herry, I'll get her out. She just happened to move.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: She happened. Okay, consider that.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Everybody's a load to Gabriel.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: All Right, I'm gonna invite, invite Lindsay. She just messages me.
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: Your cassom isn't on part of my face, Alison. I
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: see it, I see it, I see it, your casso.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: We'll just wait until.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Your kidom oh, I see recorded.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Sounds like a bat. He's got the ball game. It
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: should be fine. Now, it's just it's just he's got
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: I can activate it and then like get out.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: Of the way. Okay, so like them, just shoom around them,
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: scout out with everything.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Wait wait, I see something. I see something that might
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: be maybe not wait wait wait wait wait wait, we.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Can grab the alien together and throw him down. He's
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: gonna come over here. Yeah, he's coming. He's coming he's coming.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: All right, get ready, all grab grab grab him, throw
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: him down, throw down. There you go, bitch here. Okay,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the peeper. The people is just chilling there right now.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we do we have anything that
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: we can use.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're back here. Yeah, you found the extraction.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I have a grenade.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Oh is there's gonna I'll get out of your way.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Gabriel, you're breaking up. I know you're trying to give
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: me some advice, but I cannot. Probably he's probably he
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: told us to stay here. He's going to do something.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Try to s.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Trust coming.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna stay here with the there's a toilet
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: right wait, wait, no, he's.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Still he's still there. Wait, don't don't. Don't do it
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: from all the way over there, it's gonna hard me
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: to get to him and him get a little bit
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: closer first. Now, no, he fell.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Well, there's nothing in the toilet.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, I think it's clear.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Now, Okay, I'm coming back up.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: I did nothing here, But well that's that's good enough.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, great, that's that's the bar for me doing. You
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: just did nothing, nothing happened.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Well, you didn't make things worse.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't make things work.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Be careful here, don't fall I am proud. Can you
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: make it? Can you make it to the other side
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: of this without falling?
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: If you don't distract me?
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: I probably can okay.
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: Oh, oh, careful left, left, yep, we're okay, all.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Right, all right, Gabriel? Is he coming with the cart?
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: Where is Gabriel?
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Mhmm?
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Did he drop out?
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: To church? Church? Is coming?
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Is he coming back?
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: Hey?
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: It's over there.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Okay. I don't see a place where I can hide.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's he's making his way back.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, so where can we hide?
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm just gonna try to use this grenade knock
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: him down again.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Ah do that?
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: Look at that?
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Wow, Brian, All right, let.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Me just cross this.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Look out, watch out, I'm gonna I'm gonna, My god,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: you guys are rolling dice over here. All right, stay there,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: stay there, stay there. I think Gabriel dropped out of
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: the game too, so when we may have to start
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: over because we lost two people or they got really
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: frustrated with us and just quit.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: But I think more.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: I fell back up the.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Uh oh ship ship, I'll get you off storry.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, wait wait, wait, you gotta put the
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: money on the card. You gotta put the money on there.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, Gabriel, the money and the money, get the money.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: It's over here, it's over here.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Hang it.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: I don't see Brian's head.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Alison, you're panicking. You're gonna You're gonna
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: drow up.
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: I'll help, I'll help.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: There we go, it's on now.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Where the hell am I just? Yeah? Oh I'm over here.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Don't save me, just go extract. Good luck, guys, I
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: know is shortcut?
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: What the why? What was wrong?
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Was wrong?
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: I can't can't get it up.
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: Oh no, he's just your I said a little bit more.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: You're almost there. You're almost there. Gas alive, he just
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: went something.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: God, nor region we get through this together.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Just go.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Just go, guys, just go without me, carry on, don't forget,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: don't forget the money though.
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: We got it up together. Just need a little help, okay.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: Anyway, okay, so wet we should we should leave the
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: car here until I know where we need to go.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: I think we should try and find the next, the
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: next extract first, I.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Think, yeah, no, the next oh right, right?
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: Oh no, maybe that that's where it leads us. Now,
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: the map.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know what's going on.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's where it leads. Now follow the dots. They
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: will take you to the extraction. Leave me. Go on
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: without me, carry on. You can do this. Just stay focused.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Ignore my pain wailing from beyond the veil.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Oh god, Okay, I've been laughing.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: So I don't know where I am.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know I'm I'm trying to see. Oh, you
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: know those pipes right there? Those are I think I'm
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: over buried behind those pipes, laughing so hard.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's my head. I see my head. It's over there,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: but it's okay. You want to say me?
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: Are you sir?
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Can you see my head?
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Can actually passive aggressive? I think I think I can maybe.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Oh Allison, no, oh my god, she's gonna die. Don't
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: don't wait, don't move. You're too close to the edge.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Just I just want to know if you can see it,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: if you if you're willing, somebody can co grab my head.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: But don't worry about it otherwise.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Well, how am I supposed to see your head with
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: aut isn't this like a way down? Are you over there?
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Let me let me.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I'll navigate this. It's like I'm It's like, I'm I'm
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: going back. We can't. We can't leave any man behind
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: or robot track him.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Oh the alien, Alison, the alien's coming. The alien's coming.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's gonna get her. It's gonna get her. Run.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: I don't see where your head is at. They might,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: they might try to save me. I don't know.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, I died yea. Oh my god, you told me
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: not to do it that I.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Didn't know I did. I said don't. I said, if
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: you can see where my head is at, I was
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: going to suggest that you just tell them where it
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: is and maybe they can grab my head.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: But it's not important if they finished the level. If
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: they finished the level, then we'll come back anyways. We'll
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: just come back one with one Hell.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I didn't expect there to be an alien there.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, they show up anyway, if i'll troll
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: them a little bit.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: I was stacked between two rock and a hard place
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: because the alien was there. But if I sprint, I'm going.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: On, Wait, can you see Allison's head or my head?
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Can you see it? I'm like in between two pipes
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: against the wall on the far side of the room,
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: you impress the e key and then you can say
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: a few things from me and then you'll be able
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: to talk to them. But don't wit. Just be the dude.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: You're gonna die. It's not worth it. Just goat all right.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: I'll invite Lindsay back after that.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, I think I can speak no way, can I? Yeah?
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: You are you were just speaking speaking all were yeah.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: All right, So I'm beside like a fan, all right,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: and I think I'm yeah, this is about the only
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: thing I could tell you.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, never mind, it's okay.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: They're just gonna finish the level and then I'll I'll quit,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: and then I'll invite Lindsay back.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: Did you guys do it? Or what's going on? Ahead?
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: He might try to find somebody's head, but I don't
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: think it's worth it. Just just finish the level.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: Anyway, um Mangaka says, Ohanna means family. You could find it.
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: I couldn't find it. Bryan told this to just extract.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead and get back to trump.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: It all right, So I'm gonna just discuss the.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, Gabriel is gonna extract.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna discuss the thing about the women and Children
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: first argue argument that it didn't exist. Okay, So of
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: the eighteen shipwrecks in the study, two had unknown captain's orders.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Of the remaining sixteen, ten occurred before the end of
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: World War One, and those ten pre World War one recks,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: the women and first order was given in five cases.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: That's fifty ers old at the time. Calling something that
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: happened half the time a myth is misleading. The order
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: stopped being given after World War One. The last instance
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: was the Lusitania in nineteen fifteen. The accurate claim is
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: that w women and children first was a real practice
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: that was common in one era and then died out,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: not that it was always a myth, except that it
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: was also done on one of the I think the
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: played but actually landed in the Hudson, So it does happen.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Still, all right, I'm gonna quit and come back yep.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Thet also argues that Elinder and Erickson's framing and the
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: media's enthusiastic adoption of it, treated the Titanic and Birkenhead
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: as trivial exceptions, when they actually constitute twenty percent of
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: the pre World War one example. In over ten percent
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: of the database, dismissing your two largest and most documented
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: cases as exceptions, while claiming the remaining data proves a
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: general rule is methodologically questionable. The other point raised in
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: is physical women traveling with children have a massive survival disadvantage,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: not because men aren't helping them, but because escaping a
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: sinking chip while carrying or managing small children is objectively
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: harder than escaping alone. The study doesn't control for whether
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: or not women were accompanied by children, and a woman
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: drowning while trying to hold her child is not evidence
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: of every man for herself. It's evidence that the task
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: was physically harder for her, regardless of what anyone else did. Actually, honestly,
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: the stronger argument was that women at the time didn't
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: have the same kind of norms around being able to swim,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: having clothing they could swim in, so their task was
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: already more difficult. I actually looked into the Titanic disaster itself,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: and oh gosh, what I remember is that they would
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: they would actually they were actually lowering lifeboats half full
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: because they were preventing men from getting in them, and
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: they were separating families. Well, it was general chaos, and
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: I think one of the reasons why they reconsidered it
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: was maybe because of that.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: But okay, all right, I reinvited you. You got to
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: accept the invitation again. Okay, did you did you see it?
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Otherwise I'll send it again.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Just a second. I know how to get to it.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: But essentially they're misrepresenting the evidence. Yes, okay, I'm just
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to find the I got friends in chat.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Up, but I don't see the the Hey, can you
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: hear me? Muted? I think you got No, I'm not muted.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Wait wait, I'm not. I got it.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: I know she's muted, but I mean that doesn't mean
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: she can't hear me. No, I can hear you.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Oh oh I am muted.
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: No, No, I'm not.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: I was talking about it. I was talking about Lindsay. Oh,
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: I was talking about the table. Yeah, I was watching
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: the videos. Oh I see. Okay, all right, I'm gonna
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: go into the.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: The table is the only one that mattered.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Mm hmmmmm. We just need another female player to come
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: in and call herself the presence. Good all right?
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that was like that one. You know, what
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: do you bring to the table my presence? You never
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: heard that argument.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Or it's a brilliant argument, right, is what do I
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: bring to the table my physical female body, But don't
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: objectify me and reduce me down to my physical female body.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: It's just that I have no other value. Yeah, and
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: none of these none of these women actually think this
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: ship through physically incapable of doing so, especially.
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: Out their body. They spend time trying to.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're trying to essentially turn themselves into you know,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: the gravity, gravitational mass of the neutron star. That's that's
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: why the presence is enough, right, Their presence is the
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: gravity of their presence should be enough to bring you
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: towards them inouxtorably, Yeah, their advent horizon and then tear
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: torn apart. Okay, shall we watch a bit more of this?
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: We're listening to a bit more of this.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: I'll play a little bit more, but I won't play
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: it for the people in here because.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Confusing.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Way I'm doing, I'm doing something I'm working. Okay, so
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: let me play the next time. Code is seven minutes
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: where she basically goes into how the Victorian era reshaped
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: and romanticized chivalry to fit their ideals, inserting values like
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: purity and domesticity for women.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: To control and restrict. Okay, because because of course she.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: From the what we're of our dreadful talks, Uncle.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: Artists really played a big part in the whole romantic
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: image that we have of Nights replied to me, Victorians
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: are tricky. Part of what is happening here is with
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: industrial we see a romantic relationship with the medieval period
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: be invented. Victorians looked to it as a theoretical time
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: of purity, and people were more religious, and life was
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: more agrarian as opposed to urban and dirty. We see
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: the Victorians, for example, do things like rewrite ar theory
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: and legends so they don't include extramarital affairs, and they
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: retroactively insert the values that they want to see there
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: and create the idea of a child of chivalry if
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: they want there to be one. Victoria's also a part
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: of the startlingly new idea that women don't have a
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: role in public life and we're quote naturally.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: Meant to be me.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: Should I play some more of this? Let me just
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: check my time here, there's another when he seconds left
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: in this.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, it's a really new spin on the sexism that
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: prevails and is more dangerous for all things considered, I
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: cover that really extensively in the last chapter of my book. Basically,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: the notions of chivalry and these values that would be
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: in espouse by Victorious was actually just controlship in a
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: pretty little package. It's control master's benevolence, and chivalry is
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: associated closely with saving maidens, whether from real danger or
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: to protect their delicacy and their virtue, seeing them as
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: objects more than autonomous as being.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: That's her that's her argument.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: So I mean, look again, I think there is some
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: there might be some truth to the idea that the
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Romantic period, which may have been in the Victorian era,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: sort of like created this image of like the idea
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: that women never worked. It might be where we get
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: that that that nineteen.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: Fifteen ro.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: You know that idea, right, maybe because I know that
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Romantic period was trying to like bring back a kind
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: of like you know, time that never was to in
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: the art movement. But but I think that the the
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: reasoning for it is what is being misrepresented because Brianny
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: is basically saying, oh, this is how you know, we
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: objectify and harm women.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: But it was like, no, it was it was the whole.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: It was it wasn't that at all. It was basically
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: like a desire to go back to something right. There
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: was this and this is not like a new thing.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: This has always been the case. I don't know if
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, but are you paying attention
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: or distractive?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: I am, I'm doing analysis. But yes, I will go
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: out on a limb and say that you are absolutely right. Okay,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you are.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I'll jump ahead. Iromanticism was a Frankish thing. Well,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: it was like the way that the art movements work
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: is that the next first of all, when you're when
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: you're embedded in an art movement, you don't know you're
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: in an art movement. Like it's not like you know,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Van Goh was sitting around saying I'm an Impressionist like
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: he was just a painter. And then many years later
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: we looked back on that period and said that was
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: the Impressionist period.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: But so I actually, okay, sorry.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: It's okay, I'm just so basically every sort of like
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: cultural I guess if we if you could even break
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: it up into phases, they were there was basically like
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: a reaction to the previous one. So like if we
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: had a time of you know, like I think I
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: can't remember what it was before the Romantic period, but
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: it was. I think it was something more based in
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: like you know, science and and you know, it's kind
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: of like rationality, and then we want to move away
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: from that and get into something playful and or mythological.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: So like a lot of the Romantic art was like
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: depicting like the Greek gods and those kinds of stories.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: And even though those were very old, you know, they
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: weren't like stories that were current or at least contemporary
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: at the time, but they liked the idea of them,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: so they would present them. But they would also present
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: them in a little bit of a distorted way because
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: you would get like a Romantic version of things, you know,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: and that's still that always happens. Bengal was an expressionist. No,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: he was an impressionist. I think the expressionist was to lose.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: The Trek was an expressionist.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, you might be right.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, my god, you guys are spurging out
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: about this stuff. I'm just saying that every period was
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: not called that while it was happening. So like right
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: now we're experiencing what we would call a contemporary art
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: movement only because it is current or contemporary. But in
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: one hundred years, people will art historians will look back
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: on this period and give it a name. That's what
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, post Impressionism, Okay, all right, Neo classicism, Yeah,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like, this is what but Byrony
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: is trying to say, was the concept of chivalry itself
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: was being repurposed in this sort of like Romantic period
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: or the you know, uh, whatever you want to call
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Neoclassicism or whatever.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: It's irrelevant. The point is is that she is saying.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: That the the the that period, that Victorian era was
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: trying to take something that was you know, the idea
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: of chivalry, which was military. It was a code of honor,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: it was a it was like when you become knighted,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: you took a vow right. So this what this didn't
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: really have anything to do with women per se, because
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: it was something that was specifically martial in its root.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: And that's true. This is something that we've even said.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: What is when we talk about guynocentrism as Romantic chivalry
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: evolved into like the in in to adapt to the
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: modern day where there you know, people don't have duels
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: to the death all the time. Then you have like,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: what's a holdover of that period, which is just like
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: the way we treat women as opposed to what it was.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: So there is truth in that idea, but Bryany's claim
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: is that this is bad because it hurted it hurt women,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: when she's basically inverting the reasoning behind it, and she's
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: also inverting where to go forward from there, which is
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: essentially that men should basically be chivalrous to everyone that
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: she thinks deserves that which prioritizes women, but it includes
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: any pet issue that she, as a communist, openly thinks
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: that men should support, and on top of that that
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: men should not expect anything in return because it's just
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: being a good person. So you know, it's like this
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: conundrum of chivalry is dead and that's good, but also
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: we should have it only but without any of the
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: baggage quote unit quote that comes with it.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: So yeah, the expectation that we recognize that men are
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: engaging in this activity. So basically what she's saying is
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: the way that men be is bad be women. But also,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: you know, while being women still act like men, not
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: like men with opinions, but like men who protect women. Yeah,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: this is a horrible, horrible bullshit thing that she's saying. Awful,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: It's awful. Okay, So I will I'm going to go
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: through this. Actually I'll do the analysis after. But I
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: just wanted to point out that the study that she
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: cited in the one that we analyzed last week sixty nine.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: So this is the study that showed an association between
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: hostile sexism men and men who are hostility sexist like
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: the trad or are drawn to the trad wife lifestyle
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: while treating trad wives with derision. And essentially none of
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: that is actually accurate to their findings. And that's on
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: top of recognizing that whatever they're doing is not really
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: science in the first place. So sixty nine of the sample,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: this is the men that they asked, had never heard
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: of the trad wife movement before the survey handed them
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: a definition. So essentially, the surveyors handed these men a definition,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: and most of them are like, what the fuck's a
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: trad wife? Like? Seventy percent of the men were like,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: I don't even know. And you know why they didn't
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: know what it is because the trad wife for phenomenon
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: is a infrapink performance display. It is entirely relational modality
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: thinkers performing for an audience. That's what these women are doing.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, it really invites the question why are you
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: even engaging in this? Because what you're actually doing is
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: you are gaining emotional and social energy from a lifestyle
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: that should be from strangers, inviting your inviting strangers into
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: your lifestyle that really should be about your family. You
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: see what I'm saying, Brian, Yeah, And it's and most
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: men don't even know what the hell a trad wife
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: is because again, it's female performative display. They're displaying towards
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: to other women and potentially other men. You know, it
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: might be a little a bit of a resource just
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: in case, you know, a backup option, and they're displaying
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: this lifestyle in order to gain social social recognition, attention,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: and whatever else. Okay, And that's what they're doing. And
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: men don't usually go in most circles. They're just not
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: as interested in women watching women perform acts of domesticity.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to say all men, but
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: I think most men aren't interested in these kinds of
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: social displays, so they have no clue what the hell
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: this is. They might understand traditional life, but they don't
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: know what a trid wife is. So seventy percent, the
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: majority of these men had no idea what these people
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: were talking to and till they handed them a definition.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: And of course the definition was made by the surveyors,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: and the study analyzes that, so only thirty percent of
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: these men even knew what they were talking about. And
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: they analyzes their responses as meaningful evaluations of an actual lifestyle.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: So it didn't even divide out the guys who were like,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: what's that? Who had no opinion going into this survey.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: The sample is eighteen to twenty nine year old men.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Seventy percent with a two year degree or last sixty
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: one not in relationships. Most have never run a household,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: never been a soul provider, I had any operational experience
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: of what either half of a traditional arrangement requires. The
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: headline finding hostile sexism predicts trad wife favorability is near tautological.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: The trad wife definition given to participants emphasizes female submission.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: The hostile sexism scale measures resentment towards women without explaining
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: what female submission is. All right, men who resent women
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: like the idea of women being subordinate. The study presents
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: this as a discovery and the hostile sexism scale itself
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: as a validity problem. Items like most women fail to
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: appreciate that all men all that men do for them,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: and once a woman gets a man to commit, he
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: tries to put him on a tight leash code observations
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: of institutional and interpersonal dynamics is prejudice. The framework treats
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: female suspicion of male motives as justified awareness, and female
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: suspicion of female motives of pathology without justifying the asymmetry
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: or recognizing that these men could be observing reality like
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: that anyway. The derision finding that generated the headline comes
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: from forty nine men out of five hundred and ninety five,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: eight point two percent of the sample. The word often
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: in the headline has no basis in the data. That
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: word often like what the traditional or hostile sexists often
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: support the trad lifestyle lifestyle while treating trad wise with
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: diversion that comes from eight percent of their sample. Often
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: is doing a lot of work, don't you think brient?
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, Often that's an equivocation. That's that's a way of
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: saying we don't know the number, but we're going to
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: make it.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: Sound like we are.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: We know the number, and we're trying to make it small.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to try and make it sound bigger
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: than it actually is.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like if it's more than three it's often, right,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: if it's like more than three times.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's often except when except when it when
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: you know, in the past they did the women and
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: children first.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: Then if it's even fifty percent of the time of
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: it during a shipwreck, even ship fifty percent of shipwreck
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: shipwrecks had the captain say women and children first. That's
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: not often.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: That's a myth, Yeah, exactly, which is.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: I think, okay, all right, I just want to finish this.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: So this forty nine men said that trad life, the
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: trad wife lifestyle, lets women avoid the hardships of paper coding.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Team three women, two of whom discussed how being mothers
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: shape their interpretation, classified this as derisive, but the same
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: words can express aspiration. I want to provide well enough
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: so she doesn't have to work, or envy. I wish
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: I could stay home instead of working my warehouse shift.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: The study never asks what work these men do whether
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: they're employed or what their baseline experience of labor is. Okay, Like,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: this is something that I've pointed out, like for years,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: the average man has a worst job, and these guys
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: eighteen to nine twenty nine are disproportionately right now working
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: their worst jobs. So they're comparing bending over and putting
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: a DVD and the DVD player to roofing in July
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: or pulling shit out of a sewer or working an
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: oil rig like, and they're saying, Wow, I say, I
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: wouldn't mind doing that. That would buy would like that?
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: Okay?
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, but I never consider that the delta between
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: what these men are doing for work and staying at home. Okay. So,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: And the study also never establishes the two findings that
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: the two findings, the hostile sexism correlation and the laziness
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: theme are connected. It doesn't report whether the forty nine
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: men scored high on hostile sexism. The paper places the
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: quantitative and qualitative findings next to each other, and let's
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: the reader assume that they've described the same men. The
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: connection is editorial, non empirical. Forty participants didn't provide usable
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: open ended responses. The study codes this as missing data.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: It might be the most informative response to the data set.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: These forty percent of these guys are like, this is dumb,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: probably like I can't give you an opinion on something
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: I don't even know anything about except the definition you
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: handed me five minutes ago. The trad wife favorability scale
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: conflates the domestic arrangement with the social media movement. Items
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: like it is good that lots of people are exposed
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: to trad wife content on social media measure approval of
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: public performance, not approval of traditional domestic life. A man
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: who wants a traditional marriage but thinks private domestic arrangements
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be TikTok content would score low. And you're asking
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: men be like, oh, would you like, do you think
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: that this is good? And they're like, I don't even
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: know what I didn't even know what this was five
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: minutes ago. The theoretical framework ambivalent sexism theory defines the
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: conclusion before the data collection, any positive attitude towards traditional
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: gender roles is classified as a form of sexism by
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: the instrument's design. And Yet, and yet, if you're hostile
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: to the sexism, that's bad. You are also hostile it's
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: like there's one goal and they're always going to get
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: to it. The opening set the framework cannot detect a
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: non sexist motivation for a traditional arrangement. The opening sentence
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: of the paper states that men uphold gender inequity. The
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: conclusion states that men's attitudes are founded on sexism. The
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: axiom and the conclusion are the same claim. The study
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: collects no data on women's performance within traditional arrangement, men's experiences,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: their own working conditions, or whether anyone involved understands what
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: competent traditional domestic work actually represents. It examines male attitudes
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: in a vacuum and attributes them entirely to sexism. So
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: it just gets men to walk through the study door, right,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: just stand there, just milk guys, just mill there and
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: then and then just get them walk out and then
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: the the the authors of the study put in their
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: conclusion the men were sexist. Yeah, you just you just
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: have to walk in and then walk out. The men
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: were sexist. What the fuck is this? This is not science.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: This is a joke.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: This is a massive joke we're playing on ourselves. Somebody
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: like could could somebody be like this is the April
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: Fool century.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: Ha ha ha, No, no, no, not doable.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: So shall we?
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: Shall we listen to? And how many more of these
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: snippets have heard?
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 8: You?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: Two?
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's listen to another snippet.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: I guess all right, hold on, I will play it,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: all right. This one is I could just jump.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see the Titanic, because she actually talks about
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: the Titanic. Of course, she uses the movie to make
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: her argument. She uses the Titanic movie and then blends
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: in some history on the Titanic. So yeah, brace hold
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: on your nuts.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: Is what I'm saying. So let me just see if
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: I have the right time code here sixteen thirty eight. Yeah,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: here we go.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: And again this is about if you can you do
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: classism arguments, so you do sexism arguments. But the bonus
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: points come if you can pull off both.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: Oh two, and not only that, but the biggest opportunity
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: for some really good propaganda. The survivor reports on the
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: Titanic sinking saw the loss of more than one thousand,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: five hundred lives were variable. Some stress calm and women's precedence.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: Others talked of masculine selfishness and loss of control. Particularly
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: among immigrant or working class men. It was only after
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: a few days that a consensus emerged and the Titanic
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: disaster that the papers began to argue all men had
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: put women first, whatever that class and ethnicity. This was
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: a new departure and shipwright narratives, and was an emphasis
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: that was intended to counter the troubling feminist activism of
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: the period.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, so the.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Source for this is University of Cambridge, and I guess
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: this is an article called shipwrecked Women and Children First
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: question mark.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: So they're trying what I've been talking about.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, this is the study I've been talking about. I've
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: been explaining the problems with this specific study. Right, fifty
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: percent of the wrecks prior to World War One had
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: the captain saying women and children first. We just found
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: out that if eight percent of men think that trad
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: wives are lazy, that happens often. But if fifty percent,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: if captains say women and children first, that's a myth, right, Okay,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: that's bullshit, right. And Also they're trying to say that
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: women's survival rate indicates that men weren't trying to save them,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: but that doesn't indicate women at the time did. They
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: were wearing clothes that you couldn't swim in. Right, So,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: basically saying that men weren't trying to survive women while
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: women were chained to a rock is not It doesn't
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: mean that women men weren't trying to save them. It
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: means that they were chained to a rock and it
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: was extremely difficult to do so. Okay, and then also
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: lumping women and children's survival rate in with women is
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: going to artificially deflate women's. If we did that for men,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: men's survival rate would be even lower because children weren't
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: as likely to survive. In fact, children were far lesser
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: like likely to survive on the Titanic than women. Uh,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: I don't think they were less likely to survive than men,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: but they were less likely to survive than women.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 6: Amazing, isn't it.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: That is amazing but not not shocking, and that maybe
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: this is why this this is this The Titanic is
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: like not like other ships have never sank, but for
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: some reason, the Titanic is like the primary conversation. Okay,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: let me play the rest of the time code so
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: that we can talk about it, and then we'll get
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: into the next level.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: So there's like thirty seconds.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: Left in this Aha, Yeah, you may forget how much
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: chaos and suffiettes were causing it this time when they
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: were really.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: So they're saying that the and the Women and Children
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: First was being used as anti feminist propaganda because there
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: was a suffrage movement or women's movement.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: Going on at the time. So what like they faked
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: the sinking of the Titanic so that women's rights were
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: delayed like a few years, Like what are you talking
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: about anyway?
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: Thirty seconds fighting for like white women's right to be
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: able to vote, and the wife of the captain of
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: the Titanic decided to stay with him, a woman's exercising
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: own autonomy. We can't have this getting out, my god,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: feminists suffer. Jet women were well aware of the method
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: of male chivalry during shipwrecks was used to exclude them
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: from positions of power and politics and society. They responded
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: to the Titanic disaster with the memorable slogan votes for Women,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: votes for men, stressing that women voters will put human
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: lives above corporate profit and regulating the ocean liner company.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: So they emphasized the irony of putting women first in shipwrecks,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: only to exploit to exclude them systematically in other realms.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: And some suggested that the vulnerable, but we're.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: Saying that didn't exist. What you're saying that they didn't exist?
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: So feminists basically said, votes for women and we'll get
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: rid of something that doesn't exist anyway.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah hmm interesting, Yeah, all right, Uh this is I
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: think this is almost done here.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: Y are young should precede the strong, whatever their sets.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: All these angry men that come into my comment sections
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: saying that women don't actually want equality, the thing is
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: that we've been trying to get that from the very start.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: You think, no, you aren't, No you aren't byrony, they
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: don't even have any question.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: What does that look like?
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well they don't. They have no exit strategy. It's
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: the eternal struggle towards something that they define and nobody
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: else can challenge. That's the other thing, like, she doesn't
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: every challenge well, even asking her to define what equality
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: looks like would be considered misogyny. So everything has to
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: be because the immediate thing has to be social consensus everything,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: and they can change their mind at any time. The
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: social consensus can go any direction it wants solough usually
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: only goes one direction, and we can't challenge it at all.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: And so how do they even know that are creating equality?
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: They never measure men's sides seriously, but they're basically saying, well,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: women aren't equal to men. Well can we how have
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: you measured that? That's mistogyny. You shouldn't challenge me, like, okay, yeah,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: you sound really that sounds really well well developed, well supported.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: Your your allegations about equality sound like they sound like
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: they're very well thought out.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's it.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: That's basically it. Women are unequal. They should always be
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: prioritized for the process and the project of equality. Okay, well,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: how do you determined that women are unequal? You're a mistagynist?
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: How dare you question me?
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: Wow? That's uh.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: That gives me a lot of faith there, right, there
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: a lot of faith that you are you are speaking
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: in a way that that is actually founded, that is
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: actually supportable. Right because every time you you are criticized
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: or subject to any kind of expectation of quantifying, qualifying,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: offering evidence, creating an argument, you simply shame the fuck
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: out of the people who are asking you to do
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: it right, So that suggests to me that this entire
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: concept of equality has never been subject to any kind
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: of rigor whatsoever.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: Of course, all right, that's it. Do you want that's
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: the tea?
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: Do you have another?
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: We did? We did too? What is one left? Do
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: you want to do that one now? Or do you
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: want to level?
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: We could probably do another level?
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's do another level? Did you guys?
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: Buy everything we can get?
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 5: We need?
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: I need, lindsay, Alison, I need health. Actually, well we
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: got you can get a hundred.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 5: Hold on, you can get I can't. I can't give
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 5: you health.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: And then I'll no, no, no, no, the hell it's okay,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: we can get I have my max is one hundred.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: So yeah, let's get up hundred get it? Now? We
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: need read? We have like ten k. Why don't we
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: just get one of these? Right? Which one costs less?
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: Which one costs less?
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: All right, do it?
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: Let's go, let's go, let's go. Sorry, Allison, are you talking?
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: I can't hear you. Your mouth is moving, but I
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: can't hear you. Uh, something's wrong with your microphone.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: No it's not I need I need.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah I only had one? Hell, yeah, me too, because
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: we both die.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: I can't move?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: Why not?
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: Oh well I think I can move? Wait? What's going on?
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: I can't move?
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: I want, I want, I don't care whatever you guys
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: want to give me.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: It's fine, okay, I can't move. What's going on?
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: Should I grab the strength?
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 8: Then?
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: Who needs help me? I need health?
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm back to this stupid.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 5: What's wrong?
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: I have to uh, I have to change the thing.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: I'm back to the.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: This.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: I gotta change this. I'm sorry, guys, I gotta figure
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: out how to do that.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, mabe, figure out.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: How do you here? If you're using the keyboard, how
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: do you get back into I forgot?
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: If you're doing what what?
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: Using the keyboard? How do you get into the game?
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: Set?
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: Hit the escape key, hit the escape key, and go
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: to go to settings. You need it?
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got at Thank you.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Richard Beierre says, asking Brianny what constitutes equality is the
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: equivalent of asking what communist woman with her that communist.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: Woman with her strong fingering theory, string fingering theory. Just
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: who the workers are?
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm really sorry. I can't for I think
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: John's gonna have to fix it. So I'm gonna have to.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: I think we'll just have to continue the now. Oh,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: it's got he's gonna replace the batteries. Okay, okay, it
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: shouldn't take too long.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: It's a good figure. You have a man in the house.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: Yes it is. I'm not gonna say no, why would I.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not interested in I don't know. I don't know
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: want these these women, what game they're playing. I'm not
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: interested in it. I'm happy to be satisfied.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: The thing is that, yes they haven't. They think they have,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 5: but they haven't.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: He doesn't.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: I mean I've seen byronies.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: Wait. Wait, you are going to.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: Pay Our husband is probably incredibly happen.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: Give it, okay, think give it? Give it to Lindsay
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: she doesn't have any one.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: Stamina Updeska.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: No, I don't want to change.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: I just want to I have true stamina and the
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 5: one crowd stress.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: I'm back all right? This Yeah, grab this, It's right,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: it's grab it. Impressed it the use key? Do you
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: know how to use it?
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: Do you have what? What's the Uh? No, you just
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: put it in your pocket? What try? Wait? Wait greedy, wait,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: Like there's a button that will use the health pack
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: just holding it.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 6: There.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: It is What button was that?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 5: What was that?
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: It was the interact button.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: Interact that's the one. Yeah, that's the one. That's the
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: one you need.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: It's it's the left top button at the front of
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: my Xbox controller. Okay, do you guys want me to
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: get do anything else or we get.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: No, I think we're done.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: You got your health back, and uh yes I do.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: I want to take who wants the pancake because otherwise
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: I'm going.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: To use the pancake.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: Well, there's the pancake.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: It's a it's a land of mine.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 5: All right? I think yeah, I can take the sword.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: Take the sword, you can Gabriel. Gabriel wants the sword,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: all right, he wants to do the fighting. All right,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: let's start another level.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 6: You know what.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: I miss? I miss sausage. You said that sausage rolls. Yeah,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: in in England, No Canada. In Canada, I don't know.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: Did I have I ever had one?
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: It's like a pop pastry. It's like sausage in the
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: middle and.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: The ones like huh okay, I'm coming out again.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 5: Take from these.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: All right, We're gonna We're going into the wizarding World.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: Essentially, she's talking about the boats.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: Keep your eye on the keep your eye on the
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: there's pits in here, okay, boat boats.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: For women and both for men. Boats for men. So
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: men get to go on boats when the Titanic happens.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Except the thing is that these women are not actively
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: campaign campaigning to change that.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, oh look, oh.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: Look, we have some boats left over. You can survive.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: We have a finger. Guys, there's a finger. What this
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: is worth a lot? A giant A giant finger?
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 5: Is it the metal finger?
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: It's I can't I don't know.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: It might be.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: It's really heavy though, but it's worth like a lot
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: of money. You want to you know, I don't want
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: to put it on the cart. Yeah, let's just walk it,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: all right, Allison?
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: Are you?
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: You were saying, Yeah, they're not actually doing anything about
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: getting men boats and ship disasters, but they might actually
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: be shaming the idea that men took boats push from women,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: which which didn't really actually happen. What what is it
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: you want me to do?
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: Nothing all the way?
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: I think you're not in the way. I'm just trying
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: to Norwegian's helping me with this giant green finger.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: Push it. Ah, you know what I think I need,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: Lindsay's no, it's okay. I think we can do it.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: Just just push it. Just push the finger in.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 5: I'm trying.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: You're really happy.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: There we go, There we go.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: The Norwegian can't get it up.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: But he can't get in.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: You can't get it.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: You want to lose the finger here? It's wait, wait, wait,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: it's stuck. Stuck. Let's there we go, all right, get it,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: don't put it on, don't put it, don't put it,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: leave it, leave it there, leave it there, leave it there,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: leave it there. That's good. Okay, I get a charge
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: my throne a little bit.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, don't push it in any further.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't push the finger in any further. That's
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: just good enough. We don't want it going off too soon.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: That's the sweet spot right there, right there.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 5: My load quite yet?
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 6: Okay?
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: That was that was strained.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: It's a little on the money there, Yeah, just.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: Pull back a little bit, go a little to keep Okay.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 5: Sorry, what was that?
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: Hello?
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 5: My filter isn't so good.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: Sometimes there's a giant finger by the cart, so we
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: already have like, let's just do it. Let's do it.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: Let's do it. Let's do it. Go extract it.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: We're extracting the finger.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: Now, we're gonna extract the finger.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: I don't even need to go to a.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: Not nine months later, all right, so I'm gonna need
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: help getting this in. You have the.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: Damn you got some pretty damn magic fingers. All right,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: let's do it extracted nine months later.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: Yease's necroltic for a while.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: Now we're now we're making necrophilia jokes. What an excellent.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: Well escalating quickly, I mean that really fast.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: Come on, wait, can I camera ride?
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go. I'm giving Lindsay a ride across the
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: cross here.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Good, Oh man, I'm giving Lindsay.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: Your oh ship, stop it. It's a it's a tick,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: oh ship. Oh okay, So where is it? The tick
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: was just here.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: It's going towards me, all right, so like.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: Just stay away from it. The tick is attracted to
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: your to your hand, right, So if you like grab,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: if you grab something, it jumps on the beam and
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: it like it sucks your energy.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 6: Can you do it?
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: You can? I think I can do it. Hold on, second,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: hold on.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: By grabbing it.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: That didn't work ah ship. Oh no, oh god, there
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: you go. She knows kung fu. All right, so let's yeah,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: you gotta do a tumble attack.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: You can. I do the sliding one, but I don't
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: have enough tumble.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: Basically, Gabriel is somewhere out there drawing all the egg.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: He's basically just wrecking ship right now. The place to
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: win every time.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: So well, you know what, I imagine that means we
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: have less to deal with on our ends.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, we're just gonna he's just gonna crush it.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: He's gonna he's just gonna be locked in while we're
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: over here bullshitting.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my kind of game right there.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: There's still in something else in this room.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: There're just gonna be POGs picking things up, putting things.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: Down inside this treasure chest. I think, yes, I got it.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: There's a there's a d D mapp in here actually
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: just moving around. If I can get this open, Oh,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: it's like seven bucks.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 7: What the fuck?
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: What wized? Mushroom? It just blew up in my hand,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: A mushroom?
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: Did you break it?
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 7: Yes?
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: I broke it.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's what happened.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen the tick. We've seen it. Yeah, no, no,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: Lindsay got it. Lindsay got the tick.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: You got to give the table credit.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the table. Actually, I don't know how it is
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: it still the table if the table has.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: Provided I'm sorry how.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: The case of the.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, I gotta be careful. There's a space that
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: I could fall into. Wait wait, wait wait, I think
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: I see something now there.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: Is a wizard staff down here. I got the goal
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: a magic cube.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: I think I found another extraction point. But maybe some
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: guys have fun.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: Uh oh what was that? Something exploded?
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: And then I heard an Norwegian scream.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: All right, all right, I'm gonna take this. Did we
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: open the door yet? Yeah? We did. Okay, I'm gonna
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: take this for as long as I'm able to carry it.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: Watch it. This is a very powerful artifact. It could
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: go off. It could go off on accident.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: Sh I found something? Is I've seen something and it's
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: uh those are bangers.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: Those are bangers. Yeah?
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 5: Fuck?
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 3: Did you die?
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 5: No?
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 6: I didn't.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: I just lost. I just have sixteen health.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: Now it can't Yeah, I hear it, I hear it.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 5: You see stay on.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 6: I am running.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I was running, all right, I'm dead.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: Sorry, Yeah, it's okay. This is like pretty like we're
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: on level I don't know, like eight or something.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: I mean I went under a table.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: It doesn't save you from some. Some monsters you can
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: hide from some you can't. There's a wizard staff up there,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: so be careful.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: What I know.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm explaining to Allison. You can hide from
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: some from a lot of monsters, but not all of them.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: And it kind of depends sometimes that they see you.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: They see you, know, like they see you.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: Right, all right, Well I'm going to go back to
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: my analysis where I'm dead right right?
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: Oh shit, robe, oh shit.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: Okay. So the key detail that directly contradicts Byronies framing
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: about the Titanic second second interpreted Smith's order put the
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: women and children in it and lower away as women
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: and children only. He lowered lifeboats with empty seats rather
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: than allow men there accounts of his physically dragging men
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: out of lifeboats first after Officer Murdoff on the starboards
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: something that as women and children first, meaning men could
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: fill the remaining seats after women and children had boarded.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: So that scene where the guy picks up a child
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: to go on the lifeboat, he wouldn't have been around
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: at least to smible places. Result, there were enough lifeboat
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: spaces for one hundred were seventy eight people. Only seven
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: hundred and six were saved. Hundreds of men died, not
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: because they weren't enough boats, but because an officer decided
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: empty seats were preferable to letting men live. Life Boat seven,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: the first launched, had a capacity of sixty five and
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: went down with twenty eight. The last boat, collapsible d
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: left with twenty one people, about half capacity. And you
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: know what's really interesting is that this is obviously something
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: that did happen at great frequency, fifty percent. It's a
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: good frequency, right, and the life the Titanic disaster was
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: the culmination of the social attitude that men sacrifice for women.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: Do you think it's this women being excluded from lifeboats?
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: But it only happened fifty percent of the time, And
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: there was only one big disaster where hundreds of women
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: were just like shoved into the ocean and said, yeah, bitch,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: swim that feminists would say, oh, it's a myth, absolutely
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: not no, like this, they would never stop talking about it.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be in.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: It would be in every academic study, every constant. There'd
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: be movies, there'd be shows. All right, you're back in
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: the game, You're alive now, okay.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: Lifeboot seven. The first launch had a capacity of thirty
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: sixty five and went down with twenty eight. The last boat,
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: collapsible d left with twenty one people, about half capacity,
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: and what it was leaving behind was men. This is
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: the fact that makes Byrony's frame and collapse. She cites
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: the Titanic as evidence that male chivalry was contested and imperfect.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: The historical record shows men were actively prevented from boarding
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: half empty lifeboats and died as a direct consequence of
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: an enforced policy that valued their lives less than empty seats.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: That's not a myth. That's a power display. Yes, oh sorry,
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: it's not a power display. That's men dying because their
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: survival survival was categorically depro prioritized. Right, yeah, that's insane.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: And the fact that anybody is rewriting history because it
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: serves them to uh this, this narrative male privilege serves
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: them politically, is disgusting. But the other thing is that
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: what what feminists were probably doing with the with the
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: votes for women votes for men, was insulting men, or
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: the attitude that men had taken had taken votes and
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: have taken votes against away from women, and that means
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: that justifies or you know that that they were basically
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: presenting men as these withholding selfish, cowardly people, right, because
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: none of them were. And even if they were saying, oh, well,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: you know, if you give votes to women, there will
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: be votes for men, well, nobody was actually actively pursuing
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: that kind of legislation. The feminists have been famously, famously
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: silent and uninterested in changing any legal equality that actually
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: harms men. Right, It's just there's not their focus, and
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: they don't care because they don't even want to talk
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: about it because if they once they start asking the question,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: genuinely asking the question about who is doing the sacrifice
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: and who is reaping the reward, the answer becomes very obvious.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: When you take it into the realm of physical survival,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: comfort and all of those other things, it no longer comes.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: It becomes undeniable, and they don't want to do that.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: They don't want to have that argument. All right, So
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for things. Sorry, all right, I'm staying out
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: of trouble and looking for things, Okay, looking for things,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: looking for things that you guys might have missed, trying
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: to avoid getting killed. Okay, all right, the book.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: It was the book. The book woke up, all right.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: So anyway, that's that's the Titanic thing. She's she's full
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: of ship. Yeah, of course she has a huge amount
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: of an audience and yeah, and it's really.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: It's not it's it's not just that though, because like
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: the people that she's saying that, this is like it's
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: just affirming what they already believe. So it's really hard
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: to like break that, you know, I mean, that's what
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: I'm the pattern I'm seeing is that the people generally
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: don't want the truth.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: They just want to affirm their suspicions. They want to
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: affirm their Here's.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: The sad thing. It's here's the sad thing. I think ultimately,
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: in order for women to actually appreciate men, they'd have
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: to have the stress that activates their v one a
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: that is, uh that they like women have vassip pressing too.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: There's something coming, Yeah.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: Just hide, oh ship, gambita what's going on?
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 3: If you're okay, asshole? You heard you didn't he.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: Oh oh, it's going back the other way.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's called the gambit. It's basically got to like
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: a Roulette wheel face in it.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, I have one, I only have one health.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: He did damage to her. Let's go. Let's go to
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: the truck. Where's the truck? Come on, Alison, follow me?
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, coming all right?
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: Which way this way? Okay? How can you not just
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 3: see the map? Yes, yes, okay, we're gonna go up
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 3: this way that way. Don't fall follow me down the stairs,
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: down the stairs. We'll talk up more on the truck. Okay,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 3: let's get on the truck. Oh God, should advice?
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 6: I am?
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: I am strafing.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: Shush, I'm doing what you're saying.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: I'm zig zagging to avoid being fired upon.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: Sir. Wait, Lindsay's not here yet. Why'd you do that?
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: Is shut?
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: I saw that.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: I saw the band sound, and you looked a little
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: bit like Norwegian. You're almost white, so hidden they.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 6: Hidden camp hidden. Didn't get it?
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: What the fuck?
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: Why didn't it trigger? You probably pressed it too soon? Oh, Ship, it.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: Doesn't ass, I started the gambit, has an ass.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 3: I wasn't paying attention to that. I wasn't looking at
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: his anatomy.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: It's okay, better, bad, bad.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: All right? You want me to play that last clip?
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do Let's do the last clip, all right,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: and I will give my analysis of this nonsense.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, twenty four minutes in m hmm, okay, where are
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 3: the gentlemen?
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: I thought that was benevolent sexism.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but women still want that.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 4: But compliments to each other, That's what I'm gonna know.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 4: Why is it that it comes to women having to
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 4: do this stuff? Like it's patriarchy that has taught you
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 4: that you need to fear homophobia so much that you
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 4: can't be nice to each other. That's the bad thing,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 4: and that's to the whole looks issue.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: To other men.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, Bryan Rennie, can I tell you something.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: Our society wouldn't work if men weren't custodial to each other.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: You don't understand this because you don't understand how men
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: do or be. They aren't necessarily warm and verbal like
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: an oxytocin infrapink kind of thing, right, m h They don't,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: they don't, they don't. They're you know, like oxytocin is
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: about affiliation, It's about warm verbal sentiments, you know, it's
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: it's effusive. But the problem with oxytocin dominant people is
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: they're very warm to you, and they couldn't give rats
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: ass about you. Right, it's just about sharing this kind
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: of social experience, this and a performance of being friendly.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: But when you actually know them, they don't care about you.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: They just care about what you can provide in terms
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: of a warm you know, experience or resources. And men
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: don't operate like that. Men are custodial, which means that
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: when men care about each other, they do it by
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: showing up, by spending time, by helping out. When they
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: care about women, they do the same thing, right, And
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: she can't see that, so she doesn't see how our
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: entire society is actually built on men being custodial to
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: other men like and this is the thing that distinguishes
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: human men from almost I think, almost every species. Right,
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't maybe not like wolves or other like more
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: social species like maybe horses or some herd animals. But
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: actually no, it does because if you had, for example,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: a group of male chimps, everything is hierarchy. Everything is
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: constant hierarchy, jockeying. Male chimps do not protect injured coalition members.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: If you get injured in a male chimp coalition, you
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: are going to be discarded, right. They don't. They wouldn't
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: go under fire to save their squad, and they wouldn't
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: storm a machine gun hill to save their squad. They
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: wouldn't go under fire to rescue an injured man. They
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: wouldn't facilitate. They wouldn't be a wingman facilitating another man's
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: reproductive opportunities. They don't do stuff like that. Human men do.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: They take care of each other, and it's why we
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: can actually have a society. So when she sits there
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: and says, well paychrierarchy, she is full of she's an
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: ignorant child, right. Or alternatively, she is mate suppressed. She
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: knows exactly what she's doing, and she's just mate suppressing
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: other women.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 3: Yep, that's what I think.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: But it's a way of like competing with them because
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: none of the stuff that she's advocating for.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure she actually lives herself, you know.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: It's a lot. Yeah, that's what I think. That's my suspicion.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: It's another way that people engage in intersexual competition. So
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: she does cite some study here, some data for this.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: This is an article that she's taken a couple of
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: screenshots from. It says men behaving nicely. Selfless acts by
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: men increase when attractive women are nearby. Men put on
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: their best behavior when attractive ladies are close by. When
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: the scenario is reverse, however, the behavior of women remains
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: the same. These findings were published February second, twenty twelve
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: and the British Psychological Studies.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 3: She's trying to.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: Say that men are only motivated by, you know, like
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: basically wanting to get laid by women.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but when it says women remain basically the same,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: what does that mean though?
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: Like, does that mean that women are like the same
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: in terms of their not giving a shit either way,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: like when it comes to attractive men or not so
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: attractive men, or does it mean that the women are
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: being extremely selfless to both ugly men and attractive men.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: I know where I'm betting my money just based on
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: personal experience. So yeah, you could say women act the same,
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: But if acting the same is doing nothing, then I
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: gets that's true.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: But Okay, what is wrong with that Byrony? Like that
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: means that men's pro social behaviors tied to their sexual Oh,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: of course, I know what's wrong with that. It directly
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: contradicts feminist bullshit. But I mean, why would you have
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: a problem with that. Men's cooperative and custodial behavior is
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: incentivized by their sexual process, right, it's it's because that's
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: what was selected for. That's what that what that is
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: what they perceive makes them attractive to women. What is
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: the problem with that? Where is that? Where? Why are
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: we trying to find problems and things that are not problems?
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 3: Keeps tending?
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, are we still playing?
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: Or yeah?
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just hanging out in the back room here
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: in the back where all of the all the supplies
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: that we're always out of is here.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: This is the back This is the magical back that
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 3: has everything in it. So you see.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 5: So that's one of the stories of the world of
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 5: this ampathet, the the thing inventory it gets lost in
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 5: the backrooms.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in the back room, that's right.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: Anyway, so let me play the rest of this last
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: clip here, So there's another thirty seconds in it, no,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: another minute.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 4: Almost twenty twelve British Psychological Society article shares men behaving
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 4: nicely Selfless acts by men increase when attractive women in
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 4: nearby member on their best behavior when attractive ladies are
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 4: close by. When the scenario is reverse, whoever, the behavior
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 4: of women remains the same. They were using an experiment
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 4: of public donations. When they were being watched by an
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 4: attractive woman, men donated more money competing with others. However,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 4: when another men watched, donations didn't increase. Doctor Ardell said
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 4: the research shows that good deeds among men increase when
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 4: presented with an opportunity to copulate. Theoretically, this suggests that
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 4: a good deed is the human equivalent of the tail.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 3: It really, let me finish this.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 4: Hold on, Hold on, it's all of those chivalrous gestes.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 4: Take on the whole other light, doesn't it? This is
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 4: another way to look out for five feminists. Men all brushless,
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 4: like I've talked about in the past, Like how men
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 4: act around each other says more about their character than
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 4: how that acting in front of each other in front
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 4: of you.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: There you go. She calls them brochialists. So basically like
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 3: men are under suspicion no matter how far left they are.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: So guys just don't bother like seriously, it's not gonna
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: score you any points. And you don't really want anything
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: from these fucking women anyways, All right, go ahead?
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: Alison Okay.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: On homophobia, She argues that men can't be kind to
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: each other because patriarchy has taught them an affection between
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: men is homosexual and therefore threatening. This gets causation backwards.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: Male affection between bonded coalition partners is the historical norm.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: The vast oppression fraternal bond produces intense loyalty, physical proximity,
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: grief at loss, and willingness to die for each other.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: The literature of war is full of it. Men in
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: sleeping in shared quarters depend on each other for cyber survival,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: expressing bonds that war white writers have always recognized as love.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: The suppression of male male affection is recent and culturally specific,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: and coincides with the rise of feminism. Attributing it to patriarchy.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: A system supposedly designed by benefit, by men for men's
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: benefit requires you to believe men design a system that
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: prevents them from expressing bonds that their own neurochemistry produces.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: The simpler explanation is that the suppression of male affection
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: is a cost imposed on men, not a benefit they
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: designed for themselves byrony or an emergent property of a
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: system designed to benefit them rather Okay, so why would patriarchy,
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: which is a system designed to benefit men, suppress bonding
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: between men? Why would it do that? The answer is
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't. She just doesn't want to take rep reponsibility
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: for the implications on men being more altruistic around attractive women.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: She cites the study showing men increase pro social behavior
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: when attractive women are present and reads this is proof
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: that chivalry is just mating display peacocking for sexual access.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: Then elsewhere in the video, she complains that men don't
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: help women enough. They walk past struggling mothers, they don't
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: hold open doors, they skateboard away from their wives. She
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: needs to pick one. If male healthfulness towards women is
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: just manipulative mating behavior, then its absence as men being honest,
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: its absence is a problem, then its presence was providing
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: something real. She's complaining about the peacock's feathers and complaining
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: that the peacock has no feathers in the same video.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: The deeper issue is that she has no category for
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: a biological system that increases pro social behavior in bonding
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: relevant contexts. She can only interpret, but this is cynical calculation.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: Like my my interpretation is evolution constructed a sexual, reproductive,
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: and romantic incentive for men to be cooperative. Why do
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: we have a problem with that? Why would we want
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: to have a problem with that?
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 5: No?
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 2: Can can anybody answer that.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 6: Question for me?
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: Well, again, I think that what I think that what
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: people like Bryrony want is they're trying to move towards
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: a society without any like distinctions between people, without any classes. Yeah,
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: I know what they want men to repress everything that
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: they are in order to get there. Because where she
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: like lands is.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not it's not repressing the differences. It's forcing
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: everybody to be like her.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 6: Mm hmm. That's the thing. It's not.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: It's not equality, it's not, it's it's everybody should have
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: my pattern. That's the only acceptable pattern.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it says.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: Her conclusion is that chivalry is essentially benevolent sexism disguised
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: as kindness, and is used as a means to enforce patriarchy,
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: keeping women in domestic sphere and maintaining male superiority. She
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: emphasizes that true kindness and respect should be given without
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: expecting anything in return or attaching weighted expectations to it.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: Her requests people to simply treat each other with kindness
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: and respect, offering help when they see someone struggling, but
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: accepting if the offer is declined, and to foster a
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: society that genuinely cares for one another, rather than perpetuating
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: outdated notions of chivalry. But I think the purpose of
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: that is essentially to create like the she's trying to
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: move towards the end of history, the communist utopia. That's
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: like how you get there, You basically have to like
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: erase any kind of what like expectation, any standards, any
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: order to it, any kind of like because the idea
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: that like in her mind, and I know she won't
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 1: live this, so that's why I'm saying, like it's it's
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: made suppression. But if we were to take her seriously,
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: she doesn't think there should be weddings or marriages, fucking
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: you know, if there are children that they're taken care
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: of by the village, not by the parents. You know
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: that we don't have those things, and everyone is just
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 1: nice to each other, and there's no crime, and there's
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: no poverty, and there's no rich people because she hates
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: me nobody.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, she wants to live in an oxytocin web
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 2: where everybody's affiliative, everybody provides infinite resources to each other,
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: while not while being herself who doesn't want to provide
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: even emotional labor to anyone, especially men, Because that's the
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 2: thing you're saying, Well, men should provide all these things,
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 2: or they should just be nice. Everybody should just be nice. Well, Briornie,
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 2: what what what happens when we have a situation where
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: a woman should be nice to a man?
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 3: What are you gonna call that?
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 2: You're gonna call that emotional labor. That's what I'm trying
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 2: to get at. She's not talking about everybody treating each
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 2: other equally. She's saying men should do what women want.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 2: But if men say, well can we get some reciprocation,
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 2: that is wrong, right, And and that is that is
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 2: men expecting emotional labor from women. Okay, So she's essentially
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: saying that resources should flow one way from men to
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: women and that men should be like women and then
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: the world would be a better place. And okay, and
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: I just want to sum this up here the video,
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 2: she says that male protective behavior is bad because it's
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 2: really dominance. Then she shows examples of men failing to
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 2: protect Biber skating away from his wife, men walking past
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: the struggling mother on the stairs, men not helping women
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 2: carry their heavy things, and says that this proves the
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: protection was never real. But those examples only work as
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 2: criticism if the protection is men some what something men
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: should be doing. You can't condemn men for not helping
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: a woman with a stroller down the stairs and simultaneously
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: argue that men helping women is a pato is patriarchal control.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 2: The emotional charge of these examples depends entirely on the
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: audience expecting male protects it behavior and feeling its absences
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: of violation. The video is parasitic on the very norm
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: it's trying to debunk, like's it's so circular, all right.
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: And here's the other thing. Is there any way for men?
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: Here's the question you should be asking, is there any
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: way for men to navigate her expectations? The answer is no.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 2: If a man helps a woman, it's chivalry, which is
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 2: patriarchal control. If he doesn't help, he's failing at basic
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: community care. If he helps attractive women more, he's peacocking.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: If he helps all women equally, that's still chivalry and
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 2: there for suspect. If he helps everyone regardless of gender,
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: that's what he should have been doing all along, but
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 2: he gets no credit because his past failure to do
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 2: so proves his current behavior is probably performative. If he
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 2: stops helping her after being punished for helping, he's fragile.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: If he continues helping after being punished, no comment that
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 2: snarrow doesn't appear in this video. If he protects his partner,
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: he's being territorial. If he doesn't protect her, he where
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 2: is he when she needs him. If he provides, he's
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 2: enacting a power dynamic. If he doesn't provide, he's not
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: meeting his responsibilities. If he wants a traditional arrangement, he's
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: driven by hostile sexism. If he wants a negalitarian arrangements,
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 2: no points. That's the bare minimum. The structure is closed.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: Every male behavior assigned a negative interpretation, and the opposite
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 2: behavior is also signed a negative interpretation. There is no
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: action a man can take that resolves to neutral or positive.
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 2: Within this framework. The only winning move is confession, admitting
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 2: that whatever you're doing is probably patriarchal and committing to
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 2: perpetual self examination. But that's not navigation. That's capitulation to
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: a framework that has already decided the verdict before the
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 2: examining the evidence.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 2: Uh, this is why the framework isn't analytical. An analytical
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 2: framework makes predictions that can be wrong. This one generates
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 2: the same conclusion regardless of input. So essentially, she's saying
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: that men are wrong. Men exist, and that is wrong.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 2: That's wrong. You are wrong. Hey, you can't go right,
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: you can't go left, you can't go up, you can't go.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 6: Down, you can't go.
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 2: Charm or strange, you can't go anything. You must just
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 2: be wrong. Be an eternal state of being wrong. God,
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm not her husband.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I could do like it.
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 2: M I could do a deeper analysis based on modality too,
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: if you guys are interested. Yeah, I'll just do it.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 2: It's not too long.
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 3: Oh god, you grow all right for two hours? But
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 3: go ahead.
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this should take like maybe five minutes. All right,
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: all right, so the modality analysis, for those of you
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 2: guys don't know, I have a framework that sorts people's
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: thinking into operative versus relational thinking. Men tend to be operative,
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 2: and by ten, I mean they're almost always operative. Women
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: tend to be relationship relational, and by ten I mean
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: I haven't yet found women who don't think outside of
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 2: relational modality, aside from me and one other woman. So
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 2: there you go. This is a social This this video
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 2: social reader content. It's so it's it's relational modality thinking.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: It processes entirely through affect social signaling and category level
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 2: moral reasoning. That means if you're in the wrong category,
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: you're wrong right now. It doesn't have nothing to do
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: with your behavior. If you're in the wrong cast, you're wrong.
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 2: The swap test confirms it. Replace every instance of men
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: with women and women with men, and the arguments become unrecognizable.
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: Women who claim to protect men are actually controlling them.
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: No social readia or audience would accept that frame. The
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 2: content is sex specific in its moral assignments, but presents
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 2: itself as universal analysis. So she is not creating a
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: universal standard. She is one hundred percent creating a standard
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: for men and a non standard for women. So all
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 2: of these claims for equality, it's like the same thing
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 2: I said about objectivity last year yesterday. Moral objectivity. Fine,
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: you think that there's no objective morality, stop claiming a
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: position to judge others for yourself, because every person who
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 2: talks about there being no objective morality claims a position
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 2: to judge others for themselves. All right, she's saying there's equality.
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 2: That she's claiming that other people aren't creating equality, Well,
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: then she should practice it and stop creating unequal expectations
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 2: for men and women. The video operates through association chains
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 2: rather than causal mechanisms. Knights were violent. Knights claim to
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 2: protect women. Modern men claim to protect women. Therefore, modern
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 2: male protection is violence adjacent. The theme is the thematic linking.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: This is thematic linking, not operative reasoning. An operational reader asks,
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 2: what is the mechanism by which a medieval knight's class
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: position causes a modern man to shelter his girlfriend from rain?
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 2: There isn't one. The connection is aesthetic. They pattern match visually,
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 2: armor shielding, positioning the body, and the video treats visual
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 2: resemblance as casual continuity. Right, Okay, maybe you might be
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 2: able to get away with using the custodial nature men's
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: custodial nature to make a connection between a knight being
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 2: expected to protect peasants and a girlfriend being expected to
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 2: protect or a boyfriend protecting his go friend from the rain.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 2: But you don't need to do that, I mean, you
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 2: don't get to gain anything from doing it, But you
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 2: can't make it. I guess the present presenter's evidence selection
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 2: is social modality. Throughout anecdotes from social media, viral clips,
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 2: individual bad actors at rallies, celebrity behavior at award shows,
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 2: no base rates, no denominators, no attempt to establish how
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 2: frequently male protective behavior occurs versus how frequently it's exploitative.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 2: Forty nine men out of five hundred and ninety five
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: became a headline about often in the tradwife study. Here,
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: two out of five men arrested at a rally having
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 2: DV charges becomes evidence about male protectors as a category. Essentially,
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 2: two men from the right like our right rally where
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 2: arrested out of five were arrested and they had DV charges,
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 2: which I mean pretty much doesn't mean anything at this point.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 2: Who knows, Maybe there there were the ones who were
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 2: being victimized. The community care. The community care well because
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: men are more likely to be arrested than the woman
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 2: abusing them. So the fact that these guys were arrested
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 2: for DV means okay, well, it could mean that they
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: actually were engaging in domestic violence, or it could mean
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 2: that they were victims of it because they're men. You know,
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 2: you don't know. Flip a coin. The community care alternative.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: She proposes this pure social reading, framing Kara is a
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 2: moral identity rather than as an operative behavior. She holds
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 2: doors for everyone. She wants a society where people help
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 2: each other without gendered expectations. These are the statements about
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 2: who she is, not about what mechanisms produce helping behavior.
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 2: At scale, an operational reader asks what system generates reliable
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 2: community care, what maintains it, what happens when it's costly.
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 2: Video doesn't engage with any of these questions because the
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 2: social modality doesn't require mechanistic answers. The moral position is
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 2: the content. Like I said, like Brian says, we're the
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 2: good people. We believe the good things, we believe in
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 2: helping people. How are you gonna help people? That's not
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 2: the point. Yeah, that's not the point. What are you
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 2: talking about? The point is that we believe we are
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 2: the good people who believe in helping people, and we
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: should be recognized as the good people who believe in
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 2: helping people. Have you helped any people? That's not the point,
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 2: you misogynist?
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Why are you overthinking this? Are you person?
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: Why are you asking questions about this? You're either a
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: good person or you're a bad person. And I'm a
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 1: good person.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, do you have any evidence that you've ever
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 2: helped people? I can, I can tell you you've never
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 2: helped a single person. Well, I'm still a good person
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: who believes in helping people, and that's what matters.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good war.
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 2: It's it's so bankrupt, it is all right. So this
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 2: is the now I'm gonna go into my vas oppress
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 2: and architecture analysis. So Vacipressin is the male bonding hormone
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: which is understudied. So men don't bond through oxytocin, or
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 2: they do. It's like a secondary men bond through vasippress
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 2: and vasippress and is very different. It's specificity, territoriality want
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 2: like directed desire towards the target and that kind of stuff.
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 2: It's a little it has more of an edge. Oxytocin
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 2: is generalist warmth vacidpress and is very specific, okay, and territorial.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 2: The video central claim that male protective behavior towards women
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 2: is fundamentally about power and territory directly contradicts what we
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 2: know about how vasippressing works. Vasappress and produces protective orientation
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 2: towards bonded partners through neurochemical reorganization of behavioral priorities. So
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 2: on a subcortical level, when men are bonded to women,
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 2: they reorientate even their survival instant. They deprioritize them in
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 2: favor of their partner. The bonded male's aggression is directed
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 2: outward from the partner, not towards him. His investment continues
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 2: regardless of reciprocation, which is simpory, which is an unfortunate aspect,
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 2: and it's predicted by the architecture. His separation distress pushes him,
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 2: punishes him for leaving. None of this is violational display.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 2: It's endocrine machinery. The video treats all male protective behavior
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 2: as a single category power display and then debunks it
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 2: by showing that some instances are performative or exploitative. So
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 2: male protective behavior guys is bad, and also it can
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 2: be bad. When it's bad. That's it. That's the only
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 2: thing she offers. The vastip press and framework distinguishes between
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 2: genuine bonding mediated protection, neurochemical and performance or status driven
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 2: protection social the videos examples of bad actors don't invalidate
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 2: the actual existence of how men do any more than
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 2: example of bad doctors invalidate medicine. The framework predicts both
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 2: functional like, okay, so men who are normal and healthy
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 2: protect they are custodial. Men who do not have deficits
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 2: in their vasappress and bonding architecture don't. And if you
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 2: take a man who has antisocial personality disorder and you
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 2: administer vasappressing to him usually like intra like through the
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 2: nose like a inhaler, he will he will develop empathy. Okay,
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 2: So it is a deficit in men's bonding hormones that
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 2: causes sociopathy. I want you to sit with that because
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 2: it it has a lot of implications for women. M
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 2: all right. So anyway, that's that's the end of my analysis.
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 2: Has a lot of implications for the infrapink society that
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 2: Byronny wants to create. Yeah, yeah, but all right, did
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 2: you want to add anything to that?
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 3: No, No, that's good.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: I got a rumble rant. It's not related to that,
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 1: but I should read it out anyway.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 2: I think you have superchowds too.
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 3: Oh I don't think so. No, I didn't get any
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 3: super childs or super chats unless they're stuck.
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 2: Let me check.
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, So Nova twenty one gives a dollar and says,
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 1: whenever I hear some people argue objective evil doesn't exist,
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 1: I challenge them to stop hating Nazis and stop praising feminism.
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 3: I'm sure that their responses are obvious.
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you for that. Yeah, of course, Like, yeah,
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 1: they do. They do have a demon, they do have
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: a devil, a satan. Yeah, it's just you know, patriarchy,
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: any whatever.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have objective evil. They just don't want to
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 2: acknowledge it because it's it's validated by their consensus.
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: M hm.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 2: Anyway, okay, yes, So.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 3: Is there anything else? No, I'm good, supercholes or whatever.
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 2: No, I don't see I don't see any super childs. Like, guys,
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 2: get your super childs in if you have them, quickly, quickly, quickly,
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 2: come on slash just the tip if you want to
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 2: do that. Yeah, I'll poke I'll poke the bulls and
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 2: see what happens.
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, I'll tell them we're gonna be going
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: into the truck and then we'll use our power ups
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 1: and then start the next level and then quit the game.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 3: So we have time to you know, get in our
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 3: closing thoughts. All right, we're ready, let's go. What are
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 3: you guys doing? Smoking weed? Why has everybody got weed? Faces?
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 3: Good zell? Look how green Lindsay is?
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 2: Oh god, damn it?
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 3: What happened? Uh? Put Alison on the truck?
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 8: Oh god?
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 3: Alright, anyway, okay, all right, we're gonna use our upgrades
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 3: and then uh he give you a clothing thoughts? Well
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 3: we do that? About this for myself? That's fumble anything
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 3: here for me? Yeahs bat all right, I'll take that,
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 3: thank you.
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 1: Well, Alison needs healing again, but she's got somehow though,
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 1: maybe just maybe just a fifty or we don't have
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 1: a fifty here?
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 3: Take this, Allison, use it?
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, don't.
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, Lindsay did how much does she have?
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 3: Alison? You are you? Are you there? It's no cool?
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 3: I know probably she hadn't got hundred.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: Anyways, all right, Gabriel's decided you're not. Richard Bierre says,
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: at least Brianny isn't rainbow shite. Well, you know what,
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: I actually think rainbow shite is less of a problem
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 1: because rainbow shit's like got a.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 3: Really kind of like for me, Yeah, you were you
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 3: weren't saying.
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 2: Anything, you know, when you said Gabriel you know, says
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not worth it. I was like, yeah, I think
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 2: that's fair.
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 1: Anyway, So rainbow shite, I don't think there's an issue
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 1: with her as much. She's annoying, but she's not saying
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 1: much of anything. She's just like a lower Q redditor type.
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 3: Is that for me?
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 5: She's not I mean, like she's not.
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 1: The thing is I think Brianny is worse because she's
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 1: like a quote unquote studies and she's really good at
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 1: selling her ideas even though they're really ad because she
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 1: uses a lot of clips from movies and like Disney
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 1: movies in particular.
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 3: And the thing is like, I mean, just women just.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 1: Eat that ship up, man if they see like a
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 1: she watches all the New bb she c shows. She's
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 1: got like all kinds of thoughts on that stuff.
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 2: What is that.
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 5: I see her Disney crap and I raised her story
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 5: made by World War Two, that.
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 3: We'll not take it.
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 1: A Canadian sausage roll is the same thing as co latches.
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 1: That's what Richard Beierre asked.
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 3: Are they no? I have no. It's similar to the
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 3: British what's a what's the what's the what's the British
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 3: sausage role called Gabriel. It's just cause it's just called
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 3: the sausage roll. Okay. I thought maybe something more englishy
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 3: than that, think like like a bangor roll.
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 2: Moving to the States, like I realized that there's like
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 2: things that you just can't find here that I thought
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 2: we're Canadian, but it's actually.
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, trumpets.
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 6: You what it's not?
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 3: Chocolate oranges, chocolate orange?
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, carriage chocolate orange. Oh those are delicious.
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 2: They're like the only holiday.
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 3: Doesn't sound.
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 2: Chocolate chocolate oranges are delicious.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 5: Are you talking about chocolate flavored oranges or orange flavored chocolate.
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 3: Chocolate?
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 6: It's both.
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 2: An orange, yeah exactly.
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 5: We have that in Norway too. We get we get
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 5: that sometimes from chocolate that.
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 2: It's good, it's good stuff.
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 3: They might be able to get some of that's in
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 3: some of this. We have specialty candy shops. You can
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 3: probably get that.
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 2: There.
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: Is it a candy. It's a chocolate candy. Because you know,
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 1: somebody told me about what is it those those chocolates
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 1: that are actually like milk chocolate but not in the
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: Western What is this stuff called? It's like in a
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 1: white wrapper kinders Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we have those here.
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 1: You can get the Kinder eggs, but they're not Normally
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 1: we couldn't get them.
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 3: But you can get them now in the Because American
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 3: kids eat toy inside. That's what it is. Yeah, it's
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 3: because of the toy. Yeah right, yeah, sure, that's why
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 3: it was banned.
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all.
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 3: Literally what happened? Kids eat toy inside? Somebody tell those
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 3: those baby's kids not to do that.
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 1: Shadlew Wolf says, I get those sometimes at my local
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 1: grocery store. It's orange flavored chocolate in the shape of
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 1: an orange. You snack, you smack it on the table
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: and unwrap it, smack it.
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 2: On the.
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 5: Orange on it. It comes apart like in the.
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 3: Orange, like in orange slices. That's how it does it. Yeah,
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 3: exactly why is this toy? You can't comprehend it. You
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 3: can't comprehend it. Yeah, Kinder eggs. Yeah, Shadow Wolf, are
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 3: you American?
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 1: Because then if you are, that means you got the
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 1: orange chocolates or chocolate orange, orange, chocolate or orange.
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, every chocolate orange.
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm waiting to see if he answers, Alison,
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 1: go ahead and do the things unless you want to
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: say something else.
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 2: Well, let's see if there's anything. Let's see if there's
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 2: anything coming through.
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 5: Use that.
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 3: I'm waiting for it to take it.
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 2: Look, I can't do anything right now because I my
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 2: thing is not good, right double check? Can you hear me?
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can hear you. Double check?
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, No, there's nothing going through. Okay, guys, get get
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 2: something through. If you want to feed the Badger, don't
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 2: colm slash just the tip. This one will stay up.
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 2: So if you want to make commentary up, this show
• 2:24:23
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• 2:24:27
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• 2:24:29
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• 2:24:32
  Speaker 2: and uh, there you go, Brian.
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 1: All right, So shadow Wolf says he does live in
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 1: the US, So you can't get the chocolate oranges here?
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 3: Where? What part of the US are you in shadow Wolf,
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 3: So yeah, you can probably find it.
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 2: You can get the chocolate orange. Okay, what do you want?
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 3: I think it's right here and use it.
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 1: You got to use the interact button once you have
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 1: it left deep. I don't know whatever she has it
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 1: said to last time.
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 3: Last time it was no, it's.
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's the it's the e key, it says, yeah,
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 2: it's not doing it?
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 3: What's what is it? Does it tell you? What's a pressed?
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 3: There you go? What to you press?
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 2: Mouse scroll? Because everything's changed. I think by I think
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 2: by total incompetence adds something more than vague competence.
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 1: Would Oh shadow Will says, uh h e B. I
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 1: live in Texas. H e B carries them, So it's
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 1: got to it's in an international section. So maybe we
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 1: can try and if you want to find it, maybe
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 1: they have it in the international section at like you know,
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 1: food line.
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 3: Or Kroger or something out here. And then in the South.
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 1: Or the South really doesn't want English food to be
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 1: a thing, you know, all right? Anyway, it's pronounced h yeah.
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna we're gonna wrap it up
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 1: here then, So thanks guys for coming on the stream
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 1: and joining us in this really chaotic stream of her.
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 2: Is there any commentary? Is there any commentary in the
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 2: in the comments sections? That's interesting.
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 1: I think people were mostly just sort of listening. Let
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 1: me see, uh kolaky cakes, kind of cakes?
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 3: Murmur barck wag May eight says, sounds like a geidocentric nightmare.
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 1: Rkade Knight says, the Titanic famously had less life votes
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 1: than it should have, which was a scandal. So they
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 1: could just be jumping on the bandwagon while promoting votes
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 1: for women. Yeah, if the overwhelming majority of men were homosexual,
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: priority would still complain about it. Yes, they wouldn't be
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 1: giving enough of their energy to women because they just
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: be hanging out with each other. Let me see, her
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 1: non binary fantasy serves no one. It helps that she's
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 1: a blonde.
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what does it help? That's what It probably helps
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 3: her to make her like argument, like to her channel
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 3: that she's blonde, I think, or.
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 2: Basically the poster child. Yeah, she's supposed a child for
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 2: men caring more if you are vaguely attractive, right, she
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 2: she lives on that that principle your feminine.
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I don't think so.
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 1: No, you can tell you can see the roots that
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 1: she's Tolely not a natural blonde. She she does everything
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 1: that she can. Again, this is to me, this is
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 1: made suppress.
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 3: That's all it is.
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 1: She's competing in her own way with women by essentially
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 1: giving them terrible advice about reality.
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 5: She's culturally appropriating my people's hair color.
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 3: Yes she is.
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 1: I thought yeah, romanceism was a Frankish thing. It reminds
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 1: me of when those trad influencers turn on each other
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 1: when one of them got proposed to Yes, it's and
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 1: the end, Like people like Brianey chimed in on that
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 1: and made it into you know, like it's basically like
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: a woman does something on the internet and all the
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 1: other women have something to say. But it's the purpose
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 1: of it is to compete. They're engaging in competition. Some
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 1: of it's overt, like I'm prettier than you, but a
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 1: lot of it is very covert where it's like, well,
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 1: other ladies, you should probably not follow this example. I
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 1: feel bad for this woman because she's gonna set herself
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 1: up for failure and hear all the reasons why, and
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 1: so it's it's that's why I say it's made suppression,
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 1: that's it. And and part of that involves demoralized demoralization
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: of women, which the way you demoralize people you just
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 1: basically like convince them that there is no truth and
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 1: that and and that's why every single every single path,
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 1: every single explanation in you know, like like what Alison
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: went through with the analysis where he said, well, if
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 1: men do this, then they're bad for this reason.
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 3: If they don't do this, they're bad for this reason.
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 3: Is so that people can can say, like, there is
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 3: no there is no way out of this, and it's
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 3: just like a fucking movie, a strip of hate and negativity,
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 3: and that's gonna make women and men demoralized. So Mario
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 3: barg says, where I'm from, a coloch just means cake.
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 3: So I guess that's just the cake in Yeah, coloc colatch,
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 3: it's ko l a c H. I don't know what
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 3: that is.
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 1: Richard Bierre says, a colatch is a tunnel sand which
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: that you needed a special tool for the bread part.
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that is. I don't know what
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 3: that is.
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I know what he's talking about. Yeah, it's like
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 2: there was a video of a guy using a speculum
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 2: to create a cavity and a bun for a wiener.
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 3: Oh it's like a corn hole.
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah well.
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well anyway, I'm gonna end the show here, so
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 3: thanks guys for coming on the stream. Yes, it will
• 2:30:29
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• 2:30:33
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