Latest / UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT / Six Strange Cases of Humanoids in New York State
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
- 0:03Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Today's episode
- 0:07Speaker 1: I call six Strange Cases of humanoids in New York State.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Sightings are very interesting, but I think far more interesting
- 0:17Speaker 1: are cases in which people see humanoids face to face
- 0:21Speaker 1: and or are taken on board. Of course, these cases
- 0:25Speaker 1: have been taking place for many decades, still continuing pretty
- 0:30Speaker 1: much to the present day, and as we know, occurring
- 0:34Speaker 1: all over the world. But in this episode, I decided
- 0:38Speaker 1: to limit the cases that I'm presenting here to New
- 0:43Speaker 1: York State. I've studied the accounts in this state while
- 0:47Speaker 1: doing research for a book, and I was surprised to
- 0:50Speaker 1: find how many cases there are. It's well over the hundreds.
- 0:55Speaker 1: It's probably closer to thousands, if not tens of thousands,
- 0:59Speaker 1: or even undreds of thousands. There was a lot of
- 1:02Speaker 1: cases to choose from, but I decided to pick six
- 1:05Speaker 1: that I think were particularly unique, had some interesting features
- 1:11Speaker 1: that I think reveal something about the extraterrestrial presence on
- 1:16Speaker 1: our planet, have something to say about how we interact
- 1:19Speaker 1: with the extraterrestrials, have unusual features to them, or are
- 1:24Speaker 1: really credible having multiple witnesses and or physical evidence, and
- 1:30Speaker 1: have pronounced differences between each case, and also have taken
- 1:36Speaker 1: place over a period of decades. So again, there are
- 1:42Speaker 1: six cases, and I'd like to present each of these
- 1:46Speaker 1: to you and you can decide for yourself what this
- 1:49Speaker 1: has to say about the UFO phenomenon. So let's get
- 1:53Speaker 1: started with case one, which I call implanted by aliens.
- 2:00Speaker 1: This took place in Lansingburg, New York, in nineteen fifty
- 2:06Speaker 1: five to a gentleman by the name of Richard Price. Again,
- 2:10Speaker 1: the year was nineteen fifty five, and Richard Price, who
- 2:14Speaker 1: was only eight years old, and his friend were playing
- 2:18Speaker 1: on the street near his home on Tenth Avenue, and
- 2:23Speaker 1: again this is in Lansingburg, New York. They both heard
- 2:27Speaker 1: this weird sound, similar, they said, to an approaching train,
- 2:31Speaker 1: kind of a whistling sound. Now, Richard's friend became frightened
- 2:35Speaker 1: and ran away. But he, however, became curious and started
- 2:40Speaker 1: running around the neighborhood searching for the source of this sound.
- 2:44Speaker 1: So after several minutes, he followed this sound to the
- 2:48Speaker 1: Oakwood Cemetery. I'll find I found this quite interesting because
- 2:53Speaker 1: I've actually documented many cases of UFOs hovering over cemeteries.
- 2:58Speaker 1: I did a previous episode on such encounters, but with
- 3:04Speaker 1: Richard Price. The first thing he noticed upon reaching the
- 3:08Speaker 1: Oakwood Cemetery and the source of this sound, was two
- 3:12Speaker 1: strange figures who were both about his height quite short.
- 3:17Speaker 1: He said they had dark slanted eyes and wore what
- 3:21Speaker 1: appeared to be helmets and uniforms, and realizing they were
- 3:24Speaker 1: not human, he came quite frightened and turned and tried
- 3:30Speaker 1: to run away, but he wasn't able to do this,
- 3:33Speaker 1: and instead he felt himself drawn towards the beings, who
- 3:37Speaker 1: actually escorted him on to a one hundred and fifty
- 3:41Speaker 1: foot wide disc shaped craft that sat in a clearing
- 3:46Speaker 1: in the woods next to the Oakwood Cemetery. The beings
- 3:50Speaker 1: elevated Price up into the craft, and once inside, he
- 3:54Speaker 1: said he was undressed by the beings and placed on
- 3:58Speaker 1: an examination table. Two of the other beings joined the
- 4:03Speaker 1: group and they all began to physically examine him. He
- 4:06Speaker 1: said they actually spoke verbally in a strange language, which
- 4:10Speaker 1: he compared to stereo equipment being played too slowly. He
- 4:15Speaker 1: watched a viewing screen on the wall as the beings
- 4:18Speaker 1: placed a small apparently an implant in a very private
- 4:23Speaker 1: and sensitive portion of his body. Now, one of the
- 4:27Speaker 1: beings spoke to him at this point and warned him
- 4:30Speaker 1: to never try to remove this implant or he could die. Strangely,
- 4:36Speaker 1: Richard was not frightened by this at the time, and
- 4:40Speaker 1: after this apparent procedure in which an implant was allegedly
- 4:44Speaker 1: placed in his body, he was dressed back in his clothes.
- 4:50Speaker 1: The beings then handed him a piece of parchment like
- 4:53Speaker 1: material with what looked like, Richard said, an alien alphabet
- 4:59Speaker 1: full of strains geometric symbols. At this point, they showed
- 5:04Speaker 1: him images on a view screen of other craft in
- 5:08Speaker 1: what he likened to a virtual reality display in some
- 5:12Speaker 1: reports on this case. Because this case has been reported widely,
- 5:17Speaker 1: he says he saw what looked like a weird city
- 5:20Speaker 1: and what might be another planet, and that was pretty
- 5:24Speaker 1: much the end of the experience. Afterwards, he was escorted
- 5:30Speaker 1: off the craft and back to the same location in
- 5:32Speaker 1: the Oakwood Cemetery. He immediately ran home and told his
- 5:37Speaker 1: father what happened. Unfortunately, his father did not believe him
- 5:41Speaker 1: and assumed that Richard was just having a vivid imagination,
- 5:47Speaker 1: and he learned pretty early on to keep quiet. He
- 5:52Speaker 1: did later tell his grandmother, who believed him, but she
- 5:55Speaker 1: also said that he should be careful about revealing his
- 5:58Speaker 1: story to people. Unfortunately, the pressure to tell other people
- 6:04Speaker 1: became too strong, and at age sixteen, while in high school,
- 6:08Speaker 1: Richard decided to share his story with a classmate, and
- 6:13Speaker 1: this turned out not to be a good idea. Words
- 6:16Speaker 1: spread fast about Richard's encounters. They started ridiculing him, calling
- 6:22Speaker 1: him the spaceman, and he felt himself becoming quite isolated.
- 6:28Speaker 1: And as Richard says, the experience itself wasn't bad, but
- 6:33Speaker 1: the after effects were bad. So this is something we
- 6:37Speaker 1: do see with a lot of encounters. And this story
- 6:40Speaker 1: followed him into college and things got much worse. In college,
- 6:47Speaker 1: this story spread like wildfire and was causing all kinds
- 6:51Speaker 1: of disruptions. So he was called in to see the principle,
- 6:55Speaker 1: and the principle decided that Richard, based only on this story,
- 7:00Speaker 1: was mentally unbalanced and sent him to see a psychologist,
- 7:05Speaker 1: and the psychologist actually agreed with the principal and admitted
- 7:09Speaker 1: Richard into a psychiatric hospital, and things went downhill from here.
- 7:16Speaker 1: He was heavily medicated, told that he was insane and
- 7:20Speaker 1: they would not release him. They would only release him
- 7:24Speaker 1: if he agreed to say that this incident never happened, and,
- 7:29Speaker 1: realizing he was not going to get out otherwise, Richard
- 7:32Speaker 1: agreed to tell them that there was no such uppo incident. However,
- 7:37Speaker 1: in his heart, he still believed that this did happen,
- 7:41Speaker 1: and once he got out, he just didn't talk about
- 7:43Speaker 1: it at that point. He did keep this piece of
- 7:47Speaker 1: apparent alien parchment for a while, but at one point,
- 7:52Speaker 1: as happens in many other cases, it mysteriously disappeared, and
- 7:56Speaker 1: although he searched for it, he could never find it.
- 8:00Speaker 1: And it was years later, in nineteen eighty one that
- 8:03Speaker 1: he decided to go to the doctor because where this
- 8:06Speaker 1: implant had been placed on his body, he started to
- 8:11Speaker 1: feel this odd lump and the doctor examined it and
- 8:16Speaker 1: he was puzzled by it and by the swelling, but
- 8:19Speaker 1: recommended that they take no action because there did not
- 8:22Speaker 1: appear to be any damage. There no pain, and as
- 8:27Speaker 1: long as it didn't change, they decided to just leave
- 8:29Speaker 1: it alone, and Richard's condition remained stable for years, actually
- 8:34Speaker 1: for eight years, until nineteen eighty nine, when this object
- 8:38Speaker 1: started protrude more than usual, and it was shortly later
- 8:43Speaker 1: it popped out with a feeling, Richard said, like an
- 8:46Speaker 1: electrical shock. And this is where the story takes a
- 8:52Speaker 1: very interesting turn. Richard actually saved this object, this apparent
- 8:57Speaker 1: et implant, gave it to doctor David Pritchard. Pritchard is
- 9:04Speaker 1: not only a UFO researcher, but a teacher of physics
- 9:08Speaker 1: at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology MIT, a very respected school,
- 9:15Speaker 1: and he conducted this alleged alien implant to a scientific
- 9:20Speaker 1: analysis using a scanning electron microscope and a secondary iron
- 9:26Speaker 1: mass spectrometer, and it showed some unusual properties for sure.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Pritchard determined that this was, to his surprise, actually organic material,
- 9:37Speaker 1: composed mostly of quote, carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen, plus other
- 9:45Speaker 1: what appeared to be normal earthly substances. It did appear
- 9:50Speaker 1: to have a core of translucent material with a collagen
- 9:54Speaker 1: sheene encasing it, apparently as a result of having been
- 9:59Speaker 1: inside richard His body for an extended period of time.
- 10:03Speaker 1: But even more interesting, projecting up from the object were
- 10:07Speaker 1: three little appendages eighteen microns wide, or approximately one quarter
- 10:13Speaker 1: the width of a human hair. There was some nitrogen
- 10:18Speaker 1: in this of apparent implant as well, but less than
- 10:22Speaker 1: Prichard expected, and what exactly it was could not be determined. However,
- 10:29Speaker 1: Richard himself is certain that this was in fact placed
- 10:33Speaker 1: there by the ETS, and at a nineteen ninety seven
- 10:38Speaker 1: conference in Albany, New York, he revealed that all these
- 10:43Speaker 1: years later, this early childhood experience continued to affect his life. Afterwards,
- 10:51Speaker 1: he said he found it very difficult to concentrate in school,
- 10:55Speaker 1: he experienced considerable emotional distress. He did get married, but
- 11:00Speaker 1: due to this encounter, he says, it contributed to his divorce.
- 11:07Speaker 1: So yeah, this had a profound effect on his life.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Price is considering writing a book about his experiences, but
- 11:15Speaker 1: as far as I know, he has not done so yet.
- 11:18Speaker 1: But it's definitely an important case. I like this case
- 11:22Speaker 1: because it has physical evidence, and another thing that's really
- 11:28Speaker 1: interesting to me about it was how deeply and profoundly
- 11:32Speaker 1: it affected the witness, Richard Price. It's really quite a
- 11:36Speaker 1: remarkable case, and again one of the first cases ever
- 11:39Speaker 1: involving an alien implant that was actually analyzed scientifically, So
- 11:47Speaker 1: a very important case. And now we move to case two,
- 11:52Speaker 1: which I call a UFO lands on Main Street, and
- 11:57Speaker 1: this took place in church New York on July thirty first,
- 12:06Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven, and the main witness is a gentleman
- 12:10Speaker 1: by the name of Sydney Zipkin. This next case occurred
- 12:14Speaker 1: on July thirty first, nineteen sixty seven, and again the
- 12:19Speaker 1: main witness is a gentleman by the name of Sydney Zipkin.
- 12:24Speaker 1: He was fifty years old when this occurred. And what's
- 12:27Speaker 1: interesting about this case is that some people are more
- 12:30Speaker 1: likely than others to encounter UFOs, people such as security guards,
- 12:36Speaker 1: night watchmen, pilots, police officers, and other people whose jobs
- 12:41Speaker 1: entail them staying outside late at night. And this is
- 12:46Speaker 1: a case in point. Sydney Zipkin was a security guard
- 12:51Speaker 1: and on the evening of July thirty first, nineteen sixty seven,
- 12:55Speaker 1: he was driving through the Churchville Park parking lot. This
- 12:59Speaker 1: is j dust off Main Street in Churchville, and he
- 13:03Speaker 1: says he saw a fifty foot wide cigar shaped object
- 13:08Speaker 1: drop out of the sky and land softly on the cement.
- 13:12Speaker 1: He brought his truck to a stop and he approached
- 13:15Speaker 1: within one hundred feet of this strange object and aimed
- 13:20Speaker 1: his headlights directly at it. And according to Sydney Zipken.
- 13:26Speaker 1: This object was dark in color, roundish in the center,
- 13:30Speaker 1: and had green lights on the bottom of it, and
- 13:33Speaker 1: some of the reports this object was described as being
- 13:38Speaker 1: saturn shaped. But as he's watching this object, he says,
- 13:43Speaker 1: and I quote, two dwarfs dressed in shiny black uniforms
- 13:49Speaker 1: end quote rushed by his truck and ran into the UFO,
- 13:54Speaker 1: And that came quite by surprise. And shortly later this
- 13:59Speaker 1: object took off straight up and disappeared. And that you'd
- 14:04Speaker 1: think would be the end of this report, but it's not.
- 14:08Speaker 1: The National Investigative Committee for Aerial Phenomena assigned a couple
- 14:13Speaker 1: of investigators to the case, and after interviewing him, they
- 14:17Speaker 1: said that he appeared to be entirely truthful and he
- 14:21Speaker 1: remained steadfast in his report. His story did not change,
- 14:26Speaker 1: and a further investigation revealed that there were apparently several
- 14:29Speaker 1: other witnesses. It was later learned that four police officers,
- 14:34Speaker 1: two sheriffs, and two deputies in separate locations, saw UFOs
- 14:40Speaker 1: in that area about four hours after Zipken reported seeing
- 14:45Speaker 1: this object landed in the parking lot, and further research
- 14:50Speaker 1: revealed that there were other witnesses at least eight others,
- 14:54Speaker 1: one who was out of college, and seven other witnesses
- 14:57Speaker 1: who saw a UFO in the ski that evening. Some
- 15:03Speaker 1: of these witnesses include Daniel Mullen, Ronald Phillips, Arnold Johnson,
- 15:08Speaker 1: Ronald Bump, and Bruce Kenny. So these witnesses are actually named,
- 15:14Speaker 1: and I think that does lend credence to Sidney Zipken's encounter. Sidney, however,
- 15:22Speaker 1: did have a difficult time with this. It did appear
- 15:24Speaker 1: in newspapers and there were people who were clearly skeptical.
- 15:29Speaker 1: As Sidney says in his own words, nobody believes me,
- 15:34Speaker 1: even my brother. I always thought it was a bunch
- 15:37Speaker 1: of garbage myself, but when you see one yourself, it's
- 15:40Speaker 1: not a laughing matter. It's a pretty serious It's a
- 15:45Speaker 1: pretty serious thing. There's a planet or something out there,
- 15:49Speaker 1: and the government ought to look into it. And he
- 15:53Speaker 1: later said, you can laugh at what I'm telling you.
- 15:56Speaker 1: In fact, I used to laugh myself when people said
- 16:00Speaker 1: they saw these things. But I saw this with my
- 16:03Speaker 1: own eyes, and I swear to God as a witness
- 16:06Speaker 1: that I saw what I saw. And yes, Sydney Zipkin
- 16:12Speaker 1: does have other people who believe he's telling the truth.
- 16:16Speaker 1: In fact, his superior, his boss for his job, said
- 16:22Speaker 1: that Zipkin came running up to him. His superior's name
- 16:26Speaker 1: is Clarence Johnson, and Clarence Johnson said that Sidney Zipken
- 16:30Speaker 1: was quote white as a ghost. And another person who
- 16:36Speaker 1: verifies Sydney's story is Alvin Grant, the County Park's director,
- 16:43Speaker 1: who said that Sidney Zipken was a reliable employee in
- 16:47Speaker 1: that his terrified condition testified to the truth of his story. However,
- 16:54Speaker 1: there was a weird aftermath to this case. One week later,
- 16:58Speaker 1: Sydney Zipken was fired from his job. Apparently this case
- 17:04Speaker 1: brought a lot of attention to him, and it was
- 17:07Speaker 1: revealed that Sydney did have a prior criminal record for
- 17:11Speaker 1: petty theft and a few other things. But for whatever reason,
- 17:17Speaker 1: whether it was this incident or not, Sydney Zipken lost
- 17:21Speaker 1: his job. But what's interesting about this case is this
- 17:25Speaker 1: UFO landed on Main Street in a very heavily populated case,
- 17:32Speaker 1: and it has many other witnesses. So while this case
- 17:35Speaker 1: does have some unusual and controversial elements to it, it
- 17:38Speaker 1: appears to be entirely genuine and is well corroborated by
- 17:43Speaker 1: numerous other witnesses who saw UFOs in that area at
- 17:47Speaker 1: that time. So a good case. And now let's move
- 17:51Speaker 1: to case three, the New Field, New York UFO flap,
- 17:59Speaker 1: and this took place in nineteen sixty seven. It involves
- 18:03Speaker 1: actually many hundreds of witnesses, but initially began with just
- 18:08Speaker 1: two witnesses, two young boys by the names of Donald
- 18:13Speaker 1: Chizer and Pat Krozier. It was around nine thirty p m.
- 18:19Speaker 1: On October twenty four, nineteen sixty seven, when two youngsters,
- 18:25Speaker 1: Donald Chizer, who was thirteen years old and his friend
- 18:29Speaker 1: Pat Krozer who is ten years old, were both outside
- 18:33Speaker 1: their homes in Newfield, New York, when they saw a bright,
- 18:38Speaker 1: glowing object hovering at a very low altitude they estimated
- 18:43Speaker 1: about one hundred and thirty feet overhead. They said it
- 18:46Speaker 1: was round, It had a coupola on top, and what
- 18:50Speaker 1: appeared to be a little antenna type device. They said
- 18:54Speaker 1: a box like protrusion stuck up from the bottom of
- 18:58Speaker 1: the craft, and that this protrusion had red, green and
- 19:02Speaker 1: white lights on it. The rim of the craft itself
- 19:06Speaker 1: had squarish red and white lights. So as they're watching
- 19:11Speaker 1: this thing and trying to determine what it is. This
- 19:14Speaker 1: object suddenly tilts towards them, and at this point Donald
- 19:20Speaker 1: and Pat could see that there were two large square
- 19:23Speaker 1: portholes separated by a single bar. They said the craft
- 19:29Speaker 1: appeared to have strange lettering or symbols along the bottoms
- 19:33Speaker 1: of the portholes, and inside through these portholes they could
- 19:38Speaker 1: see two humanoid finger figures sitting down in small seats,
- 19:44Speaker 1: operating control panels that were filled with small lights and knobs.
- 19:50Speaker 1: These beings were quite short, it appeared to be about
- 19:53Speaker 1: five and a half feet tall, and at a very
- 19:55Speaker 1: strange appearance, brown skin that looked like it had a weird,
- 20:00Speaker 1: bumpy texture. And they watched this for quite some time,
- 20:04Speaker 1: about two minutes. Finally this object tilted up at the rear,
- 20:09Speaker 1: became very bright, then assumed a horizontal position and disappeared.
- 20:15Speaker 1: They said, quote like a puff of wind. So it
- 20:20Speaker 1: was quite an amazing case. And it was the next
- 20:23Speaker 1: night actually that they went outside again and this same craft,
- 20:29Speaker 1: or one just like it appeared again. This time they
- 20:33Speaker 1: had walkie talkies, and they said that when this craft appeared,
- 20:37Speaker 1: and again it was quite low, there were walkie talkies malfunctioned,
- 20:41Speaker 1: and dogs were barking nearby and looking around, they saw
- 20:46Speaker 1: that there was another one of these craft. So this
- 20:50Speaker 1: started to create a little bit of buzz around town,
- 20:53Speaker 1: especially because the night before the boys encounter their first encounter,
- 20:57Speaker 1: a gentleman by the name of Stanley Old said he
- 21:01Speaker 1: saw weird lights. And over the next week activity ramped
- 21:06Speaker 1: up to an incredible degree, and by October thirtieth, more
- 21:11Speaker 1: than get this, one hundred sightings were made by local residents,
- 21:18Speaker 1: and this became known as the quote Great Ithaca Flap.
- 21:23Speaker 1: This appeared in newspapers. The Air Force sent an investigator
- 21:28Speaker 1: and said it was airplanes. Astronomers analyzed these reports and
- 21:34Speaker 1: could not come up with an explanation. There was a
- 21:38Speaker 1: student who says that he set off a version of
- 21:41Speaker 1: what we know of as sky lanterns, and that this
- 21:44Speaker 1: might have contributed to at least some of the sightings,
- 21:48Speaker 1: but it certainly does not explain what Donald Chiser and
- 21:52Speaker 1: Pat Krozer saw, which was a solid, metallic looking craft
- 21:57Speaker 1: with lights and portholes and et looking down at them.
- 22:02Speaker 1: It's quite a case. It's a very interesting case, with
- 22:05Speaker 1: so many witnesses, animal effects, what appear to be electromagnetic effects,
- 22:11Speaker 1: and a very pronounced wave of UFO activity that went
- 22:15Speaker 1: on for at least one month, So an important case,
- 22:20Speaker 1: I think. And now we move to case four. They
- 22:26Speaker 1: were not human and this took place primarily in the
- 22:32Speaker 1: town of Millerton. That does involve multiple witnesses who prefer
- 22:38Speaker 1: to remain anonymous, And it took place in the year
- 22:42Speaker 1: of nineteen seventy two. And this one is quite a
- 22:46Speaker 1: doozy of a case. It was late on the evening
- 22:49Speaker 1: of June tenth, nineteen seventy two, when an anonymous nurse
- 22:53Speaker 1: was driving with her sixty five year old mother and
- 22:56Speaker 1: her infant son outside of Millerton, New York, along a
- 23:00Speaker 1: street called Colman Station Road, when they noticed a multi
- 23:06Speaker 1: colored lighted object flashing very high in the sky ahead
- 23:10Speaker 1: of them. They both assumed it was a plane, when
- 23:14Speaker 1: without warning, it dropped down out of the sky at
- 23:17Speaker 1: a tremendous rate of speed. They assumed at this point
- 23:21Speaker 1: that this was a plane about to crash right in
- 23:24Speaker 1: front of them, when suddenly it stopped and hovered only
- 23:27Speaker 1: a few hundred feet away, And only then did they
- 23:31Speaker 1: realize it was not a plane. As the witness says
- 23:35Speaker 1: in her own words and I quote, it made a
- 23:38Speaker 1: very soft, quiet, humming sound as it hovered just above
- 23:42Speaker 1: the trees. I was terrified. My hands were shaking as
- 23:47Speaker 1: I clenched the steering wheel. I was so afraid for
- 23:50Speaker 1: all of us in the car, especially my infant son
- 23:53Speaker 1: asleep in his car seat in the back. The object
- 23:57Speaker 1: was absolutely huge, just tremendous in size. It was saucer shaped,
- 24:03Speaker 1: with some sort of dome. Around the entire dome we
- 24:07Speaker 1: could clearly see a panel of windows. What we saw
- 24:11Speaker 1: through the windows gave me nightmares for many years. There
- 24:16Speaker 1: were beings looking out at us. They were not human
- 24:21Speaker 1: in appearance. I counted five, but my mother swore she
- 24:25Speaker 1: counted six. I do not know what they were, but
- 24:29Speaker 1: they were not human beings. From our view, we could
- 24:34Speaker 1: see large oval black eyes with big bug like heads
- 24:38Speaker 1: attached to what appeared to be very thin necks with long,
- 24:43Speaker 1: thin arms. My mother and I both thought that they
- 24:47Speaker 1: appeared gray in color. As they watched the object, it
- 24:52Speaker 1: sent down a blue white beam of light from underneath
- 24:56Speaker 1: the craft, and this beam actually struck their carmine the
- 25:00Speaker 1: interior like daylight, and in fact, the light was so
- 25:05Speaker 1: bright that both women were forced to cover their eyes,
- 25:09Speaker 1: and it stayed like that for about a full minute
- 25:12Speaker 1: or even two minutes, at which point the beam of
- 25:15Speaker 1: light retracted. At this point the craft started to move.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Still afraid, the nurse pressed her foot to the accelerator
- 25:24Speaker 1: and raced home. But to her shock, this UFO actually
- 25:29Speaker 1: followed them, or rather kept in front of them in
- 25:33Speaker 1: the sky at just above treetop level, and this object
- 25:38Speaker 1: remained in view the entire trip home. She drove off
- 25:42Speaker 1: Coleman Station Road, got onto Route twenty two, drove for
- 25:47Speaker 1: another five minutes, then took a left onto McGhee Hill Road,
- 25:53Speaker 1: where she lived, and she quickly drove the rest of
- 25:57Speaker 1: the distance home and they all ran inside. This object
- 26:01Speaker 1: was still there. They could hear the faint whining of
- 26:04Speaker 1: the object as it finally moved away, And as the
- 26:08Speaker 1: witness says, I don't think either one of us actually
- 26:12Speaker 1: slept that night. I was still shaking the next morning.
- 26:15Speaker 1: It was such a traumatic experience for us. And here's
- 26:20Speaker 1: another very interesting aspect to this story. Mind you, there
- 26:24Speaker 1: are already two witnesses. But the nurse was so upset
- 26:28Speaker 1: by what she had seen that the next morning she
- 26:31Speaker 1: phoned the civil Defense authorities, who told her that they
- 26:35Speaker 1: had received quote thousands of calls. Now, most of the
- 26:40Speaker 1: callers were reporting distant objects, but a few they told
- 26:44Speaker 1: her involved close up encounters. And as the nurse says
- 26:48Speaker 1: in her own words, I have told hundreds of people
- 26:52Speaker 1: about that evening, and I will continue to tell everyone
- 26:55Speaker 1: that asks until I am no longer able to There
- 26:59Speaker 1: is life outside our little world. I don't understand the
- 27:03Speaker 1: whys and hows, but I know there is. I have
- 27:07Speaker 1: seen it quite a dramatic case. So this case I
- 27:12Speaker 1: thought was interesting because it followed them for so long
- 27:17Speaker 1: and it affected them so profoundly. It does not appear
- 27:20Speaker 1: to be an actual contact case. I don't think we
- 27:24Speaker 1: can rule out that they were taken on board or not,
- 27:27Speaker 1: but it does not appear that they were. But it's
- 27:31Speaker 1: really quite an amazing description of a really remarkable and
- 27:35Speaker 1: prolonged UFO event involving humanoids. And that's why I wanted
- 27:39Speaker 1: to include it in today's episode. And now we move
- 27:44Speaker 1: to case number five. I Am not afraid of them,
- 27:51Speaker 1: and this involves a witness by the name of Monique Driscoll,
- 27:57Speaker 1: who is a witness to the very famous Hudson Valley
- 28:01Speaker 1: UFO wave. And she's not only a witness to a
- 28:05Speaker 1: UFO sighting, but apparently an actual on board encounter. This
- 28:11Speaker 1: took place in nineteen eighty three, and I think it's
- 28:14Speaker 1: a very important case. From nineteen eighty two to nineteen
- 28:18Speaker 1: eighty six, there was a very intense wave of sightings
- 28:23Speaker 1: over the Hudson Valley area of New York State. This
- 28:27Speaker 1: actually was well beyond just Hudson Valley, appearing in Connecticut
- 28:32Speaker 1: and some neighboring areas as well. And it was during
- 28:36Speaker 1: this wave of sightings that the number of on board
- 28:39Speaker 1: UFO encounters in this area rose sharply, at least tripling
- 28:44Speaker 1: in number. And it was on February twenty six, nineteen
- 28:49Speaker 1: eighty three, that a woman by the name of Monique O.
- 28:52Speaker 1: Driscoll and her daughter actually witnessed this Hudson Valley UFO triangle.
- 29:00Speaker 1: When she saw it, Monique actually sent out a mental
- 29:03Speaker 1: message to the UFO saying don't go, and to her amazement,
- 29:09Speaker 1: it appeared to respond to her thoughts and approached much
- 29:12Speaker 1: more closely. And here's where the story gets even stranger.
- 29:17Speaker 1: Two months later, in April of nineteen eighty three, she
- 29:22Speaker 1: was walking her dog outside her home in Lake Carmel,
- 29:26Speaker 1: New York, when she saw strange lights hovering nearby, and
- 29:31Speaker 1: she returned home thinking that she had just seen the
- 29:35Speaker 1: UFO again and had a very close upsighting. But to
- 29:38Speaker 1: her shock and puzzlement, she discovered that it was now
- 29:42Speaker 1: an hour later than it should have been, and realizing
- 29:47Speaker 1: that this could mean that she had actually had a
- 29:50Speaker 1: more extensive encounter, she agreed to undergo hypnosis with the
- 29:57Speaker 1: famed UFO researcher Bud Hopkins. So Bud Hopkins hypnotically regressed
- 30:04Speaker 1: her to the time of this incident, and to her amazement,
- 30:07Speaker 1: she recalled that she was walking her dog outside and
- 30:11Speaker 1: the next moment she found herself on board this craft.
- 30:16Speaker 1: Apparently on board this craft, she was lying on her
- 30:18Speaker 1: back in a small round room that looked like it
- 30:22Speaker 1: was covered with computer panels. She was being physically examined by,
- 30:27Speaker 1: she said, little people with big bald heads. They placed
- 30:33Speaker 1: a weird, small silver instrument on her chest which vibrated,
- 30:39Speaker 1: and despite the unusual nature of this experience, Monique says,
- 30:43Speaker 1: she remained remained entirely calm throughout. As she says, and
- 30:49Speaker 1: I quote, I am not afraid of them right now.
- 30:53Speaker 1: I feel RESTful. So this was a huge wave of
- 30:59Speaker 1: activity in this area at that time. There's actually a
- 31:03Speaker 1: book about it written by Philip Imbragno, Jalen Heineck, and
- 31:09Speaker 1: Bob Pratt, and it's a very interesting book. Philip Imbrogno
- 31:15Speaker 1: actually spoke with Bud Hopkins about the reasons for this
- 31:19Speaker 1: wave of sightings and why were they there, and Bud
- 31:24Speaker 1: Hopkins told him simply, they are looking for people. At
- 31:29Speaker 1: the time, Philip Ambrogno says he was really not convinced
- 31:32Speaker 1: about the reality of abduction claims. But as he says,
- 31:36Speaker 1: and I quote, I soon changed my mind when I
- 31:39Speaker 1: discovered that over eighty two percent of all the abduction
- 31:43Speaker 1: cases I looked into were people who had been scanned
- 31:47Speaker 1: previously by the UFO's white Light. So that appeared to
- 31:52Speaker 1: be true in Monique's case because she had mentally called
- 31:55Speaker 1: out to this UFO and approached her much more closely,
- 31:59Speaker 1: and it was just two months later that she found
- 32:03Speaker 1: herself having an onboard UFO encounter. So that's just one
- 32:08Speaker 1: of many many on board UFO encounters which took place
- 32:13Speaker 1: during the Hudson Valley UFO wave. And I like that
- 32:17Speaker 1: case because it involves a witness who allowed her real
- 32:21Speaker 1: name to be used, who seems quite credible, who drew
- 32:25Speaker 1: illustrations of the craft that she saw, and also had
- 32:30Speaker 1: no fear of her encounters. So it's an interesting case,
- 32:34Speaker 1: to say the least. And now we move to the
- 32:38Speaker 1: last case in today's show, which I call Case six,
- 32:43Speaker 1: the group abductions. This took place in Saugerate's, New York
- 32:49Speaker 1: actually over a period of several years, but it was
- 32:53Speaker 1: primarily in September of nineteen eighty nine when a group
- 32:57Speaker 1: of friends began to experiences abductions or on board encounters together.
- 33:06Speaker 1: Encounters involving multiple witnesses being taken all at once are
- 33:10Speaker 1: relatively rare in the literature, so this case is I
- 33:16Speaker 1: think unusual in that regard, involving four five witnesses, all
- 33:21Speaker 1: of whom corroborate each other's story. It was Labor Day
- 33:25Speaker 1: weekend in September nineteen eighty nine when Farmingdale resident Curtis Walton,
- 33:33Speaker 1: who was a store manager, and his friend James Lefonte,
- 33:38Speaker 1: a messenger from Merrick, and several other friends decided that
- 33:42Speaker 1: they would spend a weekend in a semi remote area
- 33:49Speaker 1: in Sogerate's New York. One of them had a trailer
- 33:53Speaker 1: there and they ended up spending many weekends there and
- 33:58Speaker 1: what was supposed to be a fun hunt on this occasion, however,
- 34:02Speaker 1: turned out to be one of the strangest weekends of
- 34:04Speaker 1: their lives. These friends, Curtis Walton, James Lefonte, and several
- 34:13Speaker 1: others including Brian Leisure, Paul Cecere, and their friend Petra,
- 34:24Speaker 1: all on themselves having an incredible experience. They had gone
- 34:29Speaker 1: to bed and in the middle of the night, the
- 34:32Speaker 1: trailer lit up with this really bright light, and that's
- 34:37Speaker 1: all they really remembered. But this happened many, many times,
- 34:43Speaker 1: and after several instances of this sort of thing, they
- 34:46Speaker 1: realized something very strange was happening, and they ended up
- 34:50Speaker 1: going under hypnosis. They found a researcher who agreed to
- 34:58Speaker 1: regress them hypnotic regression. They found that they were being
- 35:02Speaker 1: regularly taken on board. It was this one incident in
- 35:08Speaker 1: September of nineteen eighty nine that really woke them up
- 35:10Speaker 1: to it. But it happened many times. As James Lefante
- 35:15Speaker 1: says during one of his hypnotic regressions, I'm on a table.
- 35:21Speaker 1: They have big eyes, their skins look molded, and after
- 35:27Speaker 1: recalling being taken on board and mostly physically examined, he
- 35:30Speaker 1: said other things happened. He found that they would be
- 35:34Speaker 1: grouped together and they would sometimes be put in intimate situations,
- 35:39Speaker 1: he said, And as he says, they would take us
- 35:44Speaker 1: into the room and start doing medical experiments, and sometimes
- 35:48Speaker 1: there would be two or three of us in the
- 35:50Speaker 1: same room. In the course of four years, I believe
- 35:54Speaker 1: we were abducted about sixty times. It was always seemed
- 36:00Speaker 1: to follow the same pattern. The trailer would light up
- 36:03Speaker 1: and they couldn't move. Other times they found themselves being
- 36:06Speaker 1: led out of the trailer by grays and led to
- 36:10Speaker 1: a certain field not far from the trailer, and it
- 36:12Speaker 1: was there that they were taken on board. Not surprisingly,
- 36:17Speaker 1: James Lefante says that he recalled having experiences as a
- 36:22Speaker 1: very little kid. As he says, ever since I was
- 36:27Speaker 1: a child, I used to wake up and I used
- 36:29Speaker 1: to see white lights and shadowy figures. So as an adult,
- 36:36Speaker 1: during this experience in this trailer, he saw his friends
- 36:41Speaker 1: also on board the UFO, Curtis Walton, Brian Leisure, Paul
- 36:46Speaker 1: Cecier and Petra And not only did he recall seeing them,
- 36:52Speaker 1: they recalled seeing him. James says, and I quote, I
- 36:58Speaker 1: do know that they need our genes to propagate their
- 37:02Speaker 1: own species, so he thinks ultimately the reason for these
- 37:07Speaker 1: onboard experiences had to do with genetics. Curtis Walton and
- 37:13Speaker 1: the others also went under hypnosis, and according to Curtis
- 37:17Speaker 1: and I quote, we were just going up there for fun,
- 37:20Speaker 1: but as it turns out, week by week we were
- 37:24Speaker 1: all being abducted as a group. I would see James
- 37:28Speaker 1: across the room and the same thing being done to him.
- 37:32Speaker 1: Curtis also remembered not only the trailer lighting up, but
- 37:35Speaker 1: sometimes being led out of the trailer, and he says
- 37:39Speaker 1: he had reproductive material removed from him on several occasions,
- 37:46Speaker 1: and this is verified by their other friends. Brian Leisure
- 37:51Speaker 1: says that quote, when I was on the ship, I
- 37:54Speaker 1: remember seeing James and pet Trot. And Brian, like the
- 37:59Speaker 1: other witnesses, also remembers having encounters as a little kid,
- 38:04Speaker 1: as he says, when I was a little kid, I
- 38:07Speaker 1: guess I could call them like shadow people, because they
- 38:10Speaker 1: used to come out of the shadows, and the shadows
- 38:13Speaker 1: would come alive, and then they'd be these little small guys,
- 38:20Speaker 1: and Petra also agrees, as she says, when I was younger,
- 38:26Speaker 1: I remember an alien looking through the windows, being watched,
- 38:30Speaker 1: a feeling of being watched all the time. James and
- 38:34Speaker 1: Kurt saw me on the UFOs. So James says that
- 38:40Speaker 1: he remembers seeing them throughout the years, not only as adults,
- 38:44Speaker 1: but as little kids, and all of them remembered being
- 38:48Speaker 1: on this craft. So again, this appears to be not
- 38:51Speaker 1: only a single group on board experience, but many and
- 38:56Speaker 1: that makes it quite unusual, as you can see a
- 39:00Speaker 1: well verified case. They did all appear on the program
- 39:06Speaker 1: Sightings several years ago and bravely stepped forward and talked
- 39:11Speaker 1: about what they had seen. So I think, yeah, it's
- 39:14Speaker 1: an important case. Those are the six cases I wanted
- 39:19Speaker 1: to present to you today, and I think you'll agree
- 39:22Speaker 1: they certainly are interesting and unique and have something to
- 39:26Speaker 1: say about the nature of the UFO phenomenon. I did
- 39:30Speaker 1: present them all, along with many others, in my book
- 39:35Speaker 1: UFOs Over New York, A True History of Extraterrestrial Encounters
- 39:39Speaker 1: in the Empire State. And again, these are just the
- 39:43Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg. There are so many more cases
- 39:48Speaker 1: that I could have presented, but this one, I think
- 39:51Speaker 1: does give you a fair cross section of what it's
- 39:53Speaker 1: like to encounter humanoids and absolutely these are strange cases.
- 40:01Speaker 1: So once again, I want to thank you very much
- 40:04Speaker 1: for watching. I truly appreciate it. Until next time, keep
- 40:08Speaker 1: searching for answers, keep asking questions, and most important, keep
- 40:13Speaker 1: having fun.