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The Late Debate | 30 January · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome the late base.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. It's great to have your company.
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  Speaker 4: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Staurer and Caleb Bond coming
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  Speaker 4: up tonight. You'd be aware Donald Trump has been issuing
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  Speaker 4: a lot of executive orders this week, but we'll show
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  Speaker 4: you one a little later that nobody, I mean nobody
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  Speaker 4: was expecting. Plus when we get to the papers, a
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  Speaker 4: former army chief says declining national pride is the reason
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  Speaker 4: the ADF can't recruit people as soldiers, and in Victoria,
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  Speaker 4: rock climbing has been banned because it's a form of colonialism.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get to all of that when we look at
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  Speaker 4: what's making news tomorrow, but first, the Northern Territory government
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  Speaker 4: has ordered that gay pride flags be removed from outside
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  Speaker 4: public hospitals. Rainbow flags were taken down from outside the
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  Speaker 4: Royal Darwin Hospital on Tuesday, with the government spokesperson saying
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  Speaker 4: the flags were not compliant with protocol, which I think
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  Speaker 4: makes a lot of sense, particularly when you consider the
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  Speaker 4: debate right now about transgender and the treatment of young
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  Speaker 4: people with gender dysphoria. Probably doesn't make sense to have
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  Speaker 4: a trans flag outside a public hospital. The thing that
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  Speaker 4: really got my attention though with this story, and we'll
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  Speaker 4: talk about whether or not it's fairer to remove the
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  Speaker 4: flags in a second, But the reaction was quite astonishing.
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  Speaker 4: Members of Northern Territory Health spoke anonymously to the local
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  Speaker 4: paper saying they were shocked and disappointed that the flags
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  Speaker 4: had been removed, with one new Northern Territory Health worker
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  Speaker 4: saying the flag it's what it symbolizes. We pride ourselves
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  Speaker 4: that good inclusive healthcare is for everyone. It's a marker
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  Speaker 4: of safety, so staff and patience can feel comfort, as
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  Speaker 4: if to say that they weren't already providing top quality
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  Speaker 4: care for homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, two spirit gender queer people
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  Speaker 4: before the flags were erected, and one staff member actually
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  Speaker 4: told the NT time quote, can I continue working or
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  Speaker 4: is this no longer.
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  Speaker 3: A safe space for me?
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  Speaker 4: The people reported It's true, Liz, numbers of staff members
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  Speaker 4: are reconsidering whether or not they should remain a part
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  Speaker 4: of Northern Territory Health if the flag is not going
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  Speaker 4: to fly.
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  Speaker 3: But the thing that really got me was the.
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  Speaker 4: Labor opposition leader who is the former health minister, criticizing
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  Speaker 4: the Conservatives for removing the flag, saying what with all
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  Speaker 4: the problems we've got in the Northern Territory, this is
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  Speaker 4: a priority getting rid of flags, neglecting to mention with
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  Speaker 4: all the problems in the Northern Territory under the Labor government,
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  Speaker 4: their priority was erecting the flags. This is typically what
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  Speaker 4: the progressive left do, isn't it, Caleb. They attack the
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  Speaker 4: culture and then the moment we say well, actually we'd
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  Speaker 4: like our culture back, they say, oh, you're all about
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  Speaker 4: the culture wars. They start it and then they get
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  Speaker 4: upset with you when you try and correct it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good little trick, isn't it.
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  Speaker 5: And look, I'd like to say, well you used to
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  Speaker 5: be able to say that it works every time it It
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  Speaker 5: doesn't work anymore, which is great. It doesn't work anymore
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  Speaker 5: because we've got Trump back in the US. Woke is
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  Speaker 5: dead in Australia. We're slowly turning all of these things around, right,
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  Speaker 5: And the protocol in the Northern Territory is very clear
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  Speaker 5: that it is standard that out the front of government
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  Speaker 5: buildings you have the Australian flag, the Northern Territory flag
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  Speaker 5: and the Aboriginal flag. That's the three flags that the
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  Speaker 5: Northern Territory government officially says they should be flying.
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  Speaker 2: So why were they flying these in the first place.
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  Speaker 5: Well, apparently it's because it was written down and I'll
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  Speaker 5: get this right, because you know, you wouldn't want to
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  Speaker 5: mack these things up. The NT government's Gender Equity Action
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  Speaker 5: Plan twenty twenty two to twenty twenty five said how
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  Speaker 5: great it was to fly these things out the front
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  Speaker 5: of hospitals, and so they started doing it, and now
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  Speaker 5: you've got these allegations. As you mentioned before, James of
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  Speaker 5: staff saying, oh, I don't know whether I can continue
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  Speaker 5: to work here because it's safe. One staff member told
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  Speaker 5: the NT News that you know the reason they were
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  Speaker 5: there and what was so great about it is that
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  Speaker 5: it said that it was a safe place for gay
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  Speaker 5: and lesbie and transgender and whatever other people to come to.
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  Speaker 2: And they went on to say, is healthcare not for everyone? Well,
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  Speaker 2: yeah it is. Because there's a flag at the front.
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  Speaker 2: You might not have noticed it, the Australian flag.
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  Speaker 5: And would you believe it? All the people and this
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  Speaker 5: is crazy. I only learned this today. All the people
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  Speaker 5: who live in Australia live under the Australian flag.
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  Speaker 2: And so when you've got the Australian flag there.
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  Speaker 5: It's saying this is a hospital where people in Australia
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  Speaker 5: can go for healthcare.
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  Speaker 2: What an extraordinary.
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  Speaker 5: Incredible, isn't I mean the suggestion that it is somehow
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  Speaker 5: exclusive to say that we're not going to fly what
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  Speaker 5: is an exclusive flag because it's only for a very
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  Speaker 5: small portion of the Australian population is absolutely absurd.
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  Speaker 6: Let's fly nobody's flag and call it even because I
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  Speaker 6: don't get a flag either, so that's true equality.
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  Speaker 7: Let's no, we get a flag.
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  Speaker 6: We literally went from being like, oh, now we have
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  Speaker 6: these flags that represent these movements to unless this flag
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  Speaker 6: is visible, people are not comfortable in their workplaces. Oh
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  Speaker 6: is this unsafe for me? I don't want to work
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  Speaker 6: here anymore. I thought that we were welcome here and
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  Speaker 6: now we're not because you're not flying our flag. No,
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  Speaker 6: we're not flying anybody's flag unless it's the Australian flag,
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  Speaker 6: which means it applies to everyone. That's fair, but massive
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  Speaker 6: kudos to the Health minister in the Northern Territory who
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  Speaker 6: could have easily just been browbeaten into being like, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: that's what the policy says, so I'll just change the
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  Speaker 6: policy and you guys can keep your flags up.
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  Speaker 7: Nah been the flags? Get them out of here.
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  Speaker 6: Someone's brought it to my attention. This isn't the policy.
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  Speaker 6: Get them out. And I want to see a lot
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  Speaker 6: more from Dutton on this because it is literally made
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  Speaker 6: me inwardly requiggle that we are giving this man so
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  Speaker 6: much credit and sure it's better than nothing for uniting
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  Speaker 6: us under one flag and saying, you know what, We're
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  Speaker 6: just going to fly the Australian flag. Now he hasn't
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  Speaker 6: gone full Trump and issued an edict that at all
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  Speaker 6: government buildings you can only fly the Australian flag. That's
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  Speaker 6: what he should do next. But come on, like, go
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  Speaker 6: harder than that. I love the window dressing. We need
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  Speaker 6: window dressing. The symbolism is important, but this is something
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  Speaker 6: that we need in place across all government agencies, be
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  Speaker 6: it education or health. This should just be the plain rules.
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  Speaker 6: Like you said, Caleb, this is a very exclusive flag
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  Speaker 6: representing a very small minority. Why do we have to
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  Speaker 6: emblaze in it everywhere? It's part of the indoctrination process
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  Speaker 6: and the vast majority of Australians say no, thanks, get
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  Speaker 6: it out of my face.
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  Speaker 4: Well we'll talk later about prominent Australians calling for and
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  Speaker 4: am inquiring too the way we treat kids with gender
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  Speaker 4: disc Laarrior. It's a letter to Albanezi, but Dutton has
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  Speaker 4: been c seed in on that and that would be
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  Speaker 4: a good thing for him to take up. We often
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  Speaker 4: talk on this program about the madness of local councils
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  Speaker 4: and we've got a beauty for you tonight. There's a
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  Speaker 4: council in Adelaide that is so bad. The culture is
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  Speaker 4: so toxic. Every single council member has been told they
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  Speaker 4: must do behavioral training.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 4: All of this began because one council member, Jane Davey,
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  Speaker 4: was continually reported for bullying. It got to a point
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  Speaker 4: where she was told she would have to sit at
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  Speaker 4: Southside Primary School, she would have to sit in council
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  Speaker 4: meetings next to the chief executive to make sure behave
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  Speaker 4: She behaved, and she was banned from directly commenting, questioning,
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  Speaker 4: or requesting anything from another particular council colleague. In fact,
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  Speaker 4: she was banned from making any nonverbal communications with this
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  Speaker 4: other council member. So an independent law firm was bought
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  Speaker 4: in to investigate claims of bullying by Jane Davey, and
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  Speaker 4: they found that the bullying was not just confined to
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  Speaker 4: one person, but it was rife throughout the entire council.
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  Speaker 4: The Burnside Council was full of council members spreading rumors
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  Speaker 4: about each other, mocking each other, publicly criticizing each other's work, ethic,
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  Speaker 4: and making angry outbursts. The whole council was toxic and
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  Speaker 4: so they've all been sent for behavioral training. The report
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  Speaker 4: says that independent findings by spark Herlmoyl lawyers found Burnside
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  Speaker 4: Council was besieged by a culture of bullies who victimize
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  Speaker 4: colleagues who speak up about inappropriate behavior. The lawyers said
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  Speaker 4: all Burnside counselors should have additional behavioral training by a
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  Speaker 4: senior external expert, including potential consequences for counselors who breach
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  Speaker 4: behavioral standards.
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  Speaker 3: This is the part I loved.
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  Speaker 4: Counselors will now be forced to have more behavioral training
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  Speaker 4: to learn about. This is what our local government members
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  Speaker 4: need to learn about values, ethics, leadership skills, and this
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  Speaker 4: is my favorite part. They need to learn how to
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  Speaker 4: talk to each other. And of course, who do you
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  Speaker 4: reckon is paying for these people? To learn to act
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  Speaker 4: like adults, Liz, the right players.
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  Speaker 6: The ratepayers, I mean, I'm sure it's worth every penny, right,
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  Speaker 6: we all want cohesive counsels.
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  Speaker 7: This is hilarious.
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  Speaker 8: The fact that they referred to that there.
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  Speaker 6: As potential consequences for counselors who break the code of conduct.
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  Speaker 8: Well, where are they they've broken.
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  Speaker 7: The code of contact. Where are the consequences? They clearly
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  Speaker 7: are none.
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  Speaker 6: So why you're holding a workshop to tell them about
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  Speaker 6: potential consequences when they've already done the action that you
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  Speaker 6: say there are consequences for, But they're not suffering anything
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  Speaker 6: other than sitting through a behavioral workshop for crying out loud.
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  Speaker 7: This is embarrassing.
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  Speaker 3: Go, can I just mention something? I forgot to mention this.
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  Speaker 4: They had a behavioral workshop and one council member made
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  Speaker 4: a colleague cry in the behavioral workshop, So now they've
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  Speaker 4: all been said.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, And that person was Jane Davy, who has
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  Speaker 5: been the subject which was apparently her fourth breage.
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  Speaker 2: And I should note here that I know Jane Davey.
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  Speaker 5: I haven't spoken to her for the better part of
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  Speaker 5: five or six years, but in my dealings with her
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  Speaker 5: back in Adelaide, I find it hard to believe that
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  Speaker 5: she would do something like this. It doesn't sound like
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  Speaker 5: the Jane Davy I know. And the counselor who she
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  Speaker 5: allegedly left in tears is the wife of someone I
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  Speaker 5: already know. So I'm just declaring all of that stuff there,
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  Speaker 5: But just what we're talking about South Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Before I talk about this, I just want to.
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  Speaker 5: Note that I think all hospitals should have the South
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  Speaker 5: Australian flag flying out the front, because as a South
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  Speaker 5: Australian I don't feel included if I go to a
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  Speaker 5: hospital here in New South Wales and my flag isn't there.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to put that on the books.
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  Speaker 5: But seriously, the idea that counselors need to be taught
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  Speaker 5: how to talk to each other and things like values
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  Speaker 5: and ethics and leadership skills, I mean, you put your
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  Speaker 5: hand up for the job, right you say I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to be a counselor.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's not great pay.
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  Speaker 5: Most of them have another job to do, unless, of course,
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  Speaker 5: you're in Brisbane where they do it how I think
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  Speaker 5: it should be done. They have large councils, councilors of
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  Speaker 5: full time. They essentially have portfolios. They actually have stuff
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  Speaker 5: to do, the genuine politicians instead of these timpot little
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  Speaker 5: fiddlers who get around around the councilors all around the country.
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  Speaker 2: And this is the problem.
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  Speaker 5: There is such a small gene pool from which these
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  Speaker 5: people are drawn. So many of them are just neighborhood
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  Speaker 5: busybodies who've got nothing better to do. And they go, oh, well,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I've got some ideas about how this should
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  Speaker 5: be done, and.
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  Speaker 2: They put their hand up.
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  Speaker 5: They get elected on three hundred votes because nobody votes
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  Speaker 5: for them, and then they go and lo and behold.
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  Speaker 2: They don't know how to behave.
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  Speaker 5: If you can't go to a meeting and behave like
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  Speaker 5: an adult, you shouldn't be there in the first place.
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  Speaker 5: And I implore you if you are in a state
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  Speaker 5: like South Australia where voting is not compulsory in council elections,
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  Speaker 5: please start voting because we have to get rid of
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  Speaker 5: these people. We are paying for it. You're paying the rates.
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  Speaker 5: You don't get any choice in that matter. You had
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  Speaker 5: to pay the rates. So for goodness sake, let's get
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  Speaker 5: some better quality. While we're talking about councils in Adelaide,
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  Speaker 5: only council has done what seems to be the move
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  Speaker 5: de jure at the moment, which is to reduce speed limits.
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  Speaker 5: You love it when you see these stories, don't you
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  Speaker 5: If they could just find a way to make it
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  Speaker 5: a little harder to get around our cities.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the councils know how to do it.
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  Speaker 5: Only road in Adelaide, and those in Adelaide will know
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  Speaker 5: what I'm talking about, but those in other parts of
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  Speaker 5: the country. Is an arterial road, a major arterial road
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  Speaker 5: that goes directly into the city. Thousands and thousands of
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  Speaker 5: people drive on it every day to go to work,
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  Speaker 5: and they drive back out on it at the end
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  Speaker 5: of the day to go home. And so the only
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  Speaker 5: councilors had the bright idea to change the speed limit
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  Speaker 5: from sixty to fifty because, according to the mayor, they
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  Speaker 5: want a gentler pace through the air, nice little village.
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  Speaker 5: This is a road people used to get in and
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  Speaker 5: out of the city.
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  Speaker 2: Bagging your gentler pace.
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  Speaker 5: You don't need to lower the speed limit by ten
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  Speaker 5: kilometers just so you can have a quote unquote gentler pace.
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  Speaker 2: We just want to get.
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  Speaker 5: To work and we just want to go home, and
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  Speaker 5: maybe we'll stop at one of the shops along the
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  Speaker 5: way on this road.
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  Speaker 2: But this is going on all over the shop.
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  Speaker 5: You look at Melbourne, through Collingwood, Fitzroy, all those suburbs
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  Speaker 5: north of Melbourne. Now some of the streets are thirty
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  Speaker 5: kilometers an hour. They started at fifty and then they
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  Speaker 5: made them forty. Now they've got some of them have
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  Speaker 5: gone down to thirty. There are councils all over the
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  Speaker 5: country continually are changing their backstreets from fifty to forty.
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  Speaker 2: That seems to be.
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  Speaker 5: A standard thing now because apparently it's much safer. And
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  Speaker 5: now you've got a council doing it in Adelaide, where
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  Speaker 5: an arterial road goes from sixty to fifty. It won't
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  Speaker 5: be long before we see this all over the country
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  Speaker 5: where councils will say, well, we've got to do it
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  Speaker 5: in the name of safety, I've got to do it
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  Speaker 5: in the name of cyclists or whatever it is. Sixty
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  Speaker 5: will become fifty, and the difference between sixty and fifty
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  Speaker 5: is quite literally.
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  Speaker 2: Ten kilometers an hour.
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  Speaker 5: And if you're talking about people driving home at the
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  Speaker 5: end of the day and they're tired and whatever, you know,
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  Speaker 5: one of the biggest killers on the road is fatigue
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  Speaker 5: people who are tired, and if you make their trip longer,
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  Speaker 5: you make it more likely that they're going to have
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  Speaker 5: a crash. It doesn't make any sense. They hate cars
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  Speaker 5: and this is why they do it.
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  Speaker 4: It's only a matter of time before a council decrees
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  Speaker 4: that every car must have a person walking in front
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  Speaker 4: of it waving a red flag to warn pedestrians the
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  Speaker 4: car is coming. I was reading the comments and the
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  Speaker 4: Adelaide Advertiser on this story, and people were saying, what
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  Speaker 4: speed limits now fifty kilometers an hour. That's faster than
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  Speaker 4: we've ever gone on that road because it's so congested
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  Speaker 4: with traffic. So they were quite excited, but they made
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  Speaker 4: the point, why are they lowering the speed limit? No
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  Speaker 4: one gets close to sixty kilometers an hour during the
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  Speaker 4: day because the road is so busy, and when you're
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  Speaker 4: driving home at three am and there's no traffic and
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  Speaker 4: you could do sixty, you're only allowed to do fifty
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  Speaker 4: kilometers now. But as you said, Caleb, the Advertiser reported
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  Speaker 4: that there are ten side streets that counselor also considering
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  Speaker 4: lowering the speed From it's already fifty, they're going to
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  Speaker 4: lower it to forty in surrounding the seats.
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  Speaker 3: So this is a perpetual thing where.
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  Speaker 4: I mean eventually you'll have to get out and push
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  Speaker 4: your car along because that'll be the only way to
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  Speaker 4: ensure Psychestrians I.
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  Speaker 6: Forget you on their way by I see you at work.
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  Speaker 7: I'll be in twenty minutes earlier. It's getting ridiculous.
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  Speaker 8: And who's a fan of this? Who living in their
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  Speaker 8: councils who are doing this.
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  Speaker 6: Is like, oh, thank god, bloody O if they're getting
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  Speaker 6: my vote next time. Solid decision, newbody to the US.
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  Speaker 6: Now where RFK Junior's confirmation hearing, we all know that
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  Speaker 6: Trump's given in the gong to head up the DSS.
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  Speaker 8: This is the Department of Health. This is going to
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  Speaker 8: be massive.
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  Speaker 6: In fact, the MAGA campaign ran parallel with a MAHA campaign,
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  Speaker 6: which was make America healthy again.
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  Speaker 7: That is the edict that has.
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  Speaker 6: Come from the top, and RFK Junior is the man
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  Speaker 6: chosen to carry it out.
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  Speaker 7: I'm telling you, twenty twenty five is wild.
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  Speaker 6: What we saw in these confirmation hearings is the Democrats
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  Speaker 6: turning on a Kennedy Democrat who is being backed by
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  Speaker 6: the Republicans.
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  Speaker 7: The Republicans say, we want clean food.
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  Speaker 6: All this GMO nonsense, the pesticides, the insecticides, the microplastics,
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  Speaker 6: the forever chemicals poisoning our food supply.
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  Speaker 7: We don't want any of that anymore. And we want
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  Speaker 7: safe vaccines.
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  Speaker 6: Not a high bar, you'd think, not a high bar,
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  Speaker 6: But they are losing their minds. Check out Senator Elizabeth
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  Speaker 6: Warren taking RFK to task, being like, how do we
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  Speaker 6: know you're not going to make money out of this?
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  Speaker 9: You've said that President Trump asks you to quote clean
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  Speaker 9: up corruption and conflicts.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds great.
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  Speaker 9: You've said that you will quote slam shut the revolving
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  Speaker 9: door between government agencies and the companies they regulate. That
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  Speaker 9: also sounds great. So here's an easy question. Will you
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  Speaker 9: commit that when you leave this job, you will not
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  Speaker 9: accept compensation from a drug company, a medical device company,
• 17:30
  Speaker 9: a hospital system, or a health insurer for at least
• 17:34
  Speaker 9: four years, including as a lobbyist or a board member.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Can you just rebe the last part of the question,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I commit you're not.
• 17:41
  Speaker 9: Going to take money from drug companies in any way,
• 17:44
  Speaker 9: shape or who me.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, you.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Having to commit to that good, That's what I figured.
• 17:52
  Speaker 9: I said, It's an easy question to start with and
• 17:55
  Speaker 9: I think you're right on this.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think any of them want to give me money.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: By the way, of course, RFK was openly trolling her then,
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: because it's on the public record that in one financial
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: year alone twenty nineteen to twenty twenty, she received over
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: eight hundred thousand dollars from Big Farmer. It's on the
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: public record the only Democrat senator who received more was
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: Bernie Sanders.
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: So she's sitting.
• 18:26
  Speaker 8: There with egg all over her face.
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: The absolute assumption she must have in people's stupidity when
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: she herself has done this four years, pocketing millions all
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: up from big Farmer companies while she represents their interests
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: in Parliament. But she's taking him to task on that
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: because she wouldn't want him to make any.
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: Money off it.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: Now you saw that Senator Bernie Sanders took even more
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: money from Big Farmer than Elizabeth Warren one point four million, again,
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: just in one financial year alone. Well, he was all
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: also at the confirmation hearing today taking RFK to task
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: on making money off these onesies.
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: Here's a picture of them.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: Now he has taken great umbradge to this because they're
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: made for babies by a company that RFK is affiliated with.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: He's saying, how can you say that your provacs when
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: a company that you've been affiliated with in the past
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: is selling these onesies and making money off these onesies.
• 19:33
  Speaker 8: The exchange that ensued belongs in a zoom.
• 19:38
  Speaker 10: Can you tell us now that you will, now that
• 19:41
  Speaker 10: you are pro vaccine, that you're going to have your
• 19:45
  Speaker 10: organization take these products off the market.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Senator, I have no power over that organization. I'm not
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you've heard of that. I resigned from the board.
• 19:52
  Speaker 10: I was just a few months ago. You founded that.
• 19:55
  Speaker 10: You certainly have power you can make that. How are
• 19:58
  Speaker 10: you supportive of this? I have had nothing to do
• 20:01
  Speaker 10: with you supportive of these onesies?
• 20:03
  Speaker 11: I'm supportive of vaccines. Are you supportive of.
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: These this clothing which is militantly anti vaccine?
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I am supportive of vaccines.
• 20:12
  Speaker 11: Well, I want good science and I want to protect
• 20:16
  Speaker 11: But you will.
• 20:16
  Speaker 10: Not tell the organization you founded not to continue by
• 20:20
  Speaker 10: selling that product.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: As the chim God forbid.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: Parents get to make their own calls regarding their own kids.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, mind blowing. They can't stand it. And
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: of course there was the eternal objection to rfk's existence,
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: that being from Senator Tillis saying, are you a conspiracy
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: there's your conspiracy theories, aren't you.
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: Here's Irfk's brilliant response.
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: And labels applied to me because I said that the vaccines,
• 20:53
  Speaker 11: the COVID vaccine didn't prevent transmission and it wouldn't prevent
• 20:57
  Speaker 11: infaction when the government was telling people Americans that it would,
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: I was saying that because I was looking at the
• 21:04
  Speaker 11: monkeys studies. In May of twenty twenty, I was called
• 21:08
  Speaker 11: a conspira. Now everybody admits it. I was called a
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: conspiracy theorist because I said red dye caused cancer, and
• 21:15
  Speaker 11: now FDA has acknowledged that and bannit. I was called
• 21:19
  Speaker 11: a conspiracy theorist because I said lor I'd lowered IQ
• 21:24
  Speaker 11: as we Jama published a matter of view of eighty
• 21:27
  Speaker 11: seven studies saying that there's a direct inverse correlation between
• 21:32
  Speaker 11: IQ loss.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: All right, so I'm going to assume I can go.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: On for about a week.
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: Senator Tillis was like, wait, wait, he's just using my
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: question to make himself sound good, all of which, as
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: you know, what he said is true.
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: And he's like, I could go on all week.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: This man has spent a large portion of his life
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: suing these massive corporates, these behemoths for poisoning.
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: There's no other way to put it.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: The food supply and other products that we use on
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: an everyday basis, rather in America. I wish we could
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: gloate him and have one here, but it with all
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: he could do to constantly during this confirmation hearing, keep
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: the main thing, the main thing.
• 22:20
  Speaker 11: There's no issue that she united more than this chronic
• 22:24
  Speaker 11: health epidemic. There's no such thing as Republican children or
• 22:28
  Speaker 11: Democratic children.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: These are our kids. Sixty six percent of them are damaged.
• 22:34
  Speaker 11: I know what a healthy kid looks like because I
• 22:37
  Speaker 11: had so many of them in my family. I didn't
• 22:40
  Speaker 11: know anybody with a food allergy growing up, peanut allergy.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Why do five of my kids have allergies?
• 22:47
  Speaker 11: Why are we seeing these explosions and diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis,
• 22:52
  Speaker 11: neurological diseases, depression, all these things that are related to
• 22:57
  Speaker 11: toxic environment. Why can't we just agree with each other?
• 23:02
  Speaker 11: Put differences about so many issues, intractable issues, aside as
• 23:08
  Speaker 11: a we're going to end this.
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: We're gonna end this. I love this. This is what
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: is a nation without its health?
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: What is any individual on a daily basis? Your health
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: is the most valuable thing to you. These guys have
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: woken up to the fact there is poison. I watched
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: a video of RFK talking about mercury in fish and
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: mercury in the water supplies, and it was like over
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: ten years old, and he had sued the pants of
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: all these companies because he'd figured out the only place
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: in America where the fish weren't riddled with mercury something
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: else you can't get out of your system and it's
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: very bad for you, was Wyoming and there was a
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: whole story around it.
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: It's too long to go into.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: But this guy has been doing this for so long
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: he is legitimately passionate about it, and he made the
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: point in these hearings today.
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: I don't have to do this.
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: I've got a great job, I've got a happy family,
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: I've got a great life. But I genuinely want to
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: see our children and American adults be far more healthier
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: than they are, rather than ingesting these poisons every single day.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I heard this.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: It was actually in an ad today. I'm not going
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: to provide any extra advertisement.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: To the company. But I thought the saying was great.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: It was if you allow yourself the time for good health,
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: the good health will allow you to have a good time.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Actually a really.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Good way of pulling it, isn't it. Yes, you've got to.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: Put a bit of effort into maintaining good health, but
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: if you maintain good health, well, you'll.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Be able to have a good time because you'll be
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: around to do it right.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: And the novel suggestion there from arifk is that we
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: put politics aside and have a bipartisan agreement here that
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: we're all going to work towards the fact that we
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: would like to live in a healthy world. That sounds
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: pretty straightforward to me. And yet, of course they try
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: to deride him as an anti vaxxer, and he's this,
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: and he's that, and he's a patsy for Trump, how
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: dare And the real issue here is that he's not
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: a Democrat anymore. That's why they hate him so much,
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: is that he comes from a full blown Democrat family. Mean,
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: we know who the Kennedys are, and he's walked away
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: and said, well, no, I'm not part of that anymore.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: Not because he feels he has left the Democrats, but
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: because he feels that the Democrats has left him, and
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: he said, well, if you don't want my wares, I'll
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: take them elsewhere.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: He's done it.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: Now he's running the Health Department in the United States
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: and they can't stand.
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: I think there's more to it than that, though, because
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: when you talk about big Farmer, you are talking about
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: unbelievably powerful players.
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: There is no money to be made from healthy people.
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: You know that. I know that.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: Sadly, it's not much different here in Australia. Where do
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: our politicians get fat wods of money? Where do our
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: media companies get fat wads of money? You bet it's
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: your bottom dollar. It's the same as in America. It
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: is from big Farmer, not all of it obviously, but
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: they're big donors, shall we say. And so these vested
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: interests that rear their heads when you've got a guy
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: like this who's been suing them for years already and
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: has just been given power from on high to go
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: nuclear on. These companies that profit billions of dollars every
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: year from not only making you sick because of the
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: stuff that you're consuming, which they're legally allowed to put
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: in their food supply, et cetera, and so on, but
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: also making billions of dollars off the people who then
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: naturally become sick.
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: And need all this medical aid.
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: It's criminal and he's after them, and I love it.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: If RFK is going to do a good job or not,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: but I do know this. You wouldn't take health advice
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: from the Democrats. I mean that clip with Elizabeth Warren saying,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: don't you take money from big farm when she herself
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: has taken huge amounts of the Democrats were the ones
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: where they not who made Rachel Levine the assistant health
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: secretary in the Biden administration on the basis that Rachel
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Levine was transgendered and therefore well equipped to do the job.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: So I don't think they should be too critical of
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: rf CASE also.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: Made a demented band president. We shouldn't leave that bit
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: out of it.
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: There was that we've got the jewel in the crown.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Then of course a demented man as president, who they
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: all were absolutely certain was probably fine.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Nothing's wrong with them.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: But you can trust them on health. I tell you
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: they'll steer you in the right direction. Staying in the
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: United States, Donald Trump has been very busy this week,
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: issuing executive orders addressing all sorts of issues. If only
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: we had a Trump in Australia. Overnight he addressed the
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: issue of anti Semitism, issuing in executive order that those
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: students from foreign nations, non citizens studying at universities in
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: America who participated in pro Palestinian rallies should be deported.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: He'll have no truck with anybody supporting Hamas, and so
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: he's given university sixty days to work out how they
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: are going to get rid of these protests on their campuses,
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: what they're going to do about it. And as I said,
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: he has repeated that threat that non citizen students participating
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: in those marches will be deported. The other order he
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: issued overnight was that Guantanamo Bay should be expanded to
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: how's dangerous illegal detainees.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: He's Donald Trump talking about that today.
• 28:32
  Speaker 12: I'm also signing an executive order to instruct the Departments
• 28:36
  Speaker 12: of Defense and Homeland Security to begin preparing the thirty
• 28:40
  Speaker 12: thousand person migrant facility at guantanam or bable. Some of
• 28:43
  Speaker 12: them are so bad we don't even trust the countries
• 28:45
  Speaker 12: to hold them because we don't want them coming back.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: The difference between what we're experiencing here in Australia, where
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: our politicians come on television every single day and yap, yap, yap,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: but do nothing, and then in the United States, I've
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: got Donald Trump who has come into office and immediately
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: started making decisions, and not everybody likes them. Some people
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: are highly offended by them, but they are clearly the
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: best thing for the United States. He's unapologetic about it,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: and he's getting things done that The difference could not
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: be more Start.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: Well, this prison essentially that he wants to set up
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: for illegal immigrants is not when we talk about Ghipmo,
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: we're not talking about the place where they water boarded people.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: It's in the same general region and they've already got
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: a prison there where they put.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Other illegals that have been caught at sea, et cetera.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: But we just, I reckon, just don't tell people that
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: bit like, just make them feel like they may actually
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: end up in the real Gitmo where they might be waterboarded,
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: and then you'll be able to solve the illegal migration
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: problem overnight.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Good on him for doing it.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: I mean it worked for us here when we did
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Operation Sovereign Borders. We said no one will make land,
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: and anyone who attempts to will be taken elsewhere. That's
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: what he's saying here. It worked for us, no reason
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: it shouldn't work in the United States. And good on
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: him for saying that people who are a actually guests
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: in his country, the United States. If you don't play
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: by our rules, then you're out. If you don't share
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: our values, you're out.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Good on him. We should be doing this all over
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: the West. It's all good and well.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: You know, you can't kick out someone who is already
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: a citizen of your country, was born, hear, etc.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: We all understand that.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: But if you're in a country on a visa, the
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: same if I went to another foreign country and started
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: slagging off their country over there while I'm on a visa,
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: they have every right to kick me out. I am
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: a guest in that country, and if you don't want
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: to abide by the rules and the values of that
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: country while you're there, then you don't deserve to be there.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Good on him.
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: But say we're talking about peaceful protests, which are the
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: majority of protests. You think that just because they're a
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: visitor they're on a student visa in America, they shouldn't
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: be able to attend a protest.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: Well, all it depends on what the context of the
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: protest is. If you're going along to a context, sorry,
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: if you're going along to a protest where you're waving
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: around flags with things like from the River to the Sea,
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: which is essentially to exterminate a popular from their lands, etc.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I would say that's against Western values. En sure, you
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: should be kicked out.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: But I would say that most of the people who
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: are attending these rallies, they're not any Semitic. They're not
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: pro har Mass, they're not har Mass fans, they're not
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: terrorist fans. They're simply protesting the deaths of forty seven
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: thousand people, eighteen of them eighteen thousand of them.
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: Who were children, and all of which.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: Were completely helpless to save themselves. That's what has gotten
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: under these people's skin. That's what the vast majority of them,
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: the well meaning ones.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I'm sure if you're talking.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: About foreign students who are there running leading the charge
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: and actually like waving her Mass flags or something. But
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: if they've simply marched in a peaceful protest, I do
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: think that a lot of this is rhetoric right now.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: This is not something I mean, it's absolutely unenforceable as well,
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: because a lot of this is in hindsight. We haven't
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: heard a peep about any of these protests on university
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: campuses in America for a long time, so I think
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: this is pure Trump rhetoric. But I don't know that
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: it is entirely fair to say that, yeah, any foreign
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: student can't walk in a peaceful I.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Would disagree with that in this sense.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: If you're a well meaning person and you went to
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: a pro Palestinian rally at Hyde Park in Sydney, you
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: would only need to be there for ten minutes if
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: you're a well meaning person, before you would leave because
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: the sort of rubbish that is getting spewed from the
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: stage by speaker after speaker.
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: But you haven't been We're not talking about the Hyde
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: moel you've attended.
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: I'm about students.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about pro Palestinian rallies, which is what Trump
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: is talking about.
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: You've attended one, so now you're a you're an authority
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: on the match. But we're talking about peaceful protests on
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: university campuses in the state.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: If you've been to a prou should they be deported
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: for if you've been talking, if you've been to a
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: pro Palestinian protest in Sydney, they would be the same
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: as what we saw on our television screens in the
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: US when you hear the bile that is being repeated
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: from stage the chance.
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: No, we've shown the worst of them, but the good
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: ones don't make the news. Where students fan together and
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: say we simply object.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: As you said, you're a well meaning person and you
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: just want to peacefully protest. It takes ten minutes to
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: realize those protests are not peaceful. The reetric is not peaceful,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: and if you are a guest in the country, that.
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: Is such a stupid generalization.
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: Bags there is and.
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: So there's no there's no protest that has been peaceful.
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: Any nice person show me those would.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Have showed me a pro Palestinian rally where there's no
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: hateful reetric, where there's no demails.
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: They don't make the news, do they are right?
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: So you haven't seen one, then no, yes I have,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: which is why I'm speaking.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: On socials much people.
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: They are not They do not hate Jews.
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: They do hate what's happened to Gaza and the forty
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: seven thousand odd people who have been killed through no
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: fault of their own. That is what they're marching for.
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: They don't hate Jews, and they're not her mass fans.
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: I don't believe that you would.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: Make such a generalization regarding I'd say millions of people
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: at this point.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: It was a pretty fair generalization, to be honest, from
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: what we've seen right across the West.
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: That is such a gross generalization.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: That is happy to stand by it.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: If someone can show me a peaceful pro Palestinian rally
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: where they're all just saying nice things.
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: Doesn't make love to know about it, doesn't.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Make the new Let's stay in the United States for
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: a second, because back in June last year, a couple
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: of astronauts went to the International Space Station for a week.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: That's how long they were supposed to be there. Eight
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: months later, they're still floating around, can't get home because
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: they're Boeing.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: What's it called a stylie what's it?
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: Of course it was bowing. No thing probably fell apart,
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: the door fell off.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, there were helium leaks, there were thrust
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: the issue. So they decided the Boeing star Liner wasn't
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: safe to get the astronauts home. It came home without them.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: They're still there just for context, by the way, that
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: they're meant to be there for a week.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: They've been there eight months.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: The American who's been in space the longest ever was
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: Frank Rubio.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: He was there three hundred and seventy one days, just
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: over a year.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: So they are close closing in on the record record.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: I'm on space when, as I said, they're expecting to
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: be there for a week, So NASA are trying to
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: work out when they can go and get them.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: They were thinking March.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump has asked via socials if Elon Musk could
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: do him a solid and go pick up these astronauts
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: on behalf of the US government. Trump messaged, I've just
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: asked Elon Musk and SpaceX to go get the two
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: brave astronauts who've been virtually abandoned in space by the
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Biden administration. They've been waiting for many months on Space station.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Elon will soon be on his way. Hopefully all will
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: be well. Good luck Elon and Elon. Usk replied, Absolutely
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: happy to do it for you, Boss. This is pretty
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: embarrassing for Boeing and for NASA by the way, that
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: their own astronauts are having to be picked up like hitchhikers.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: We Elon Musk.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: Indeed, but the Musk's thing went up there last year
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: and it's been sitting up there for some time, and
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: that mission to bring them back has been delayed. I
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: think the funniest part of it is that it's almost
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: like Elon Musk and Donald Trump are in some sort
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: of group chat and they're just conducting their their conversations
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: via public.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Elon himself isn't going to go out and collect.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: These people, but I'm I am concerned that maybe it's
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: the partners of these people who sabotaged the original rocket
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: that was going to go up there.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: They thought.
• 36:46
  Speaker 8: The overflow of the heart.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: Now you're notestic would that even occur?
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: To your not suggesting.
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: I just love that you two still insist that even
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: though it's been fifty years, it's been over half a
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: century since we've been to the Moon in seventy two,
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: a Polo seventeen, was it, Yes, a Polo seventeen, So
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: it's been over fifty years. It's been over half a
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: century since we went there. But we definitely went there
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: in the sixties.
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: You know, maybe we just got sick of going.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: Maybe we were just like you know what, you've seen
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: the moon. Once you've seen the moon forever, we can't
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: be bothered visiting it anymore.
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: We've done it enough.
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: We literally haven't made it back since. And you guys
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: are like, yeah, but we went plenty of times.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: If it was like it happened in Wallis and Grammit
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: where you can go upon.
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: Episode go look it, John Y, No, this is you don't.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Want to have a go because I reckon propel us
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: to be in rallies, hateful rallies, and then happened.
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: No, I refuse to believe that good hearted people who
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: believe that it is the moonlanding was fir. Tens of
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: thousands of people have the helpless thing would be killed.
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: Horrible people, and shouldn't March's rocket to the moon.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to a break.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Stick around, welcome back. Let's look at what's making news tomorrow.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: We'll start with Sydney's Daily Telegraph. The headline there reads
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Who's the Mastermind? And of course that's all to do
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: with the investigation into finding the mastermind behind the Dural
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: caravan plot. New South Wales Police, along with the AFP
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: and other agencies, met on Thursday to piece together what's
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: being described as a jigsaw puzzle of evidence and leads now.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Tammy Farrugia, her boyfriend Scott Marshall and his friend Simon
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Nichols were named in AFP search warrants and have been
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: described as being on the periphery of the investigation. Authorities
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: say they are working swiftly to uncover the key figure
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: behind that scheme, so that story leads the Daily Telegraph tomorrow.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Liz, you've got the Herald Sun. Sorry, Caleb, you've got that.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: Get with the program, James, mate, don't you write all
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: this stuff down before the shows.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to give Liz more opportunity.
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: Well, she doesn't need another opportunity, mate, God g you
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: can throw me a bone out here by the way.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: Don't they look like a couple of people You're there
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: around for Tea and Bickie?
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Sitn't they? Let's go to the Herald Sun, where it
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: says to more.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: Totally busted, fears for school children's safety and three hundred
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: and fifty jobs as upgrades to state's aging bus week
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: put on hold for up to five years.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: And you might be wondering, why.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Would these jobs be put on hold and these buses
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: be put on hold for up to five years. It's
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: is here that this planned upgrade has been put on
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: fold for five years, on hold sorry, because the Allen
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: government sent down a directive to buy zero emission buses
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: over diesel ones. Isn't that fantastic? Who would have thought
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: that if you go for the zero emission product, the
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: green product, it does drive intoime. If only everything worked
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: as we wanted it to work, Just get diesel buses,
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: for heaven's sake. We have an abundance of diesel in
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: this country, got abundance of diesel everywhere. We just want
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: the buses to move around. But no, we couldn't possibly
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: have a good, usable public transport, could.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: We, because it might pollute the environment.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: So the kids have got to put up with out
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: of date buses for how long is it five years
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: before they get these?
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: And also, even if a bus is spewing out diesel emissions,
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: surely one bus spewing out diesel emissions is better than say,
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: forty cars on the road spewing out the emissions that
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: come out of the back of him, the keys of
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: the buses powered by Diesel, just get them on the road, absolutely.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: To the front page of The Australian. Now, who will
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: fight for nationally? He alarm Former Army chief Peter Lee.
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: He has warned a decline in national pride is at
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: the heart of the Australian Defense Forces personnel crisis, arguing
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: a culture of entitlement, identity politics and victimhood is diminishing
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: the pool of potential recruits. Now, I don't know that
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: it's any of those things, except for national pride. I
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: think that one is the one where he's really hit
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: the nail on the head.
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: Because I was thinking about this recently.
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: And to my shock and horror, I realized I probably
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: would not be inclined to fight for Australia as it
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: is today. The Australia of the eighties, one hundred percent
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: the Australia of the nineties, I would have died in
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: a ditch in the most agonizing ways possible. You name
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: it be the Australia of today, where only a third
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: of us were born here. And I regularly look around
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: and wonder if I'm back in India Thailand, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh,
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: any number of the Asian countries that I've been to.
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: This, of course, is not to say anything.
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: Bad against those peoples. It's simply to say that it's
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: only in Western countries. We've come up with this rule
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: book by which you can come from anywhere and get
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: a piece of paper that says your Australian, that says
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: you're American.
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: That says you're British. Now. I can't go to China.
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: Know what it would be like, Oh, you're you're Asian,
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: Now you're Chinese. Now.
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: If I move to Africa, if I stay there for
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: ten years, no one would agree that I was African.
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: And as I've said before.
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: Everyone who comes here has a homeland to return to,
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: with a rich culture, a rich heritage, all their own
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: customs and ways of doing things, their own values.
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: And then me, I don't an actual Aussie, he was
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: born and bred here.
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: I don't have a homeland to return to. This is
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: my home and it looks nothing like it did in
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: the nineties. It looks nothing like it did in the eighties.
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: I do fear that it will never be again. I
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: think the proof is in the pudding.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what makes this current situation so dangerous
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: when you've got geopolitical tensions so fraught at the moment,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: and we keep denigrating our own culture in our own
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: country right when we need our defense forces to be boosted.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: We're going to go to some breaking news as the
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: IDF soldier Agam Berger has been reunited.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: With her parents.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: She was nineteen when she was taken hostage by Hamas,
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: she's now twenty years old. You can see their pictures
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: that have been released by the Israeli Defense Force as
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: she's been reunited with her parents. She's one of eight
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: hostages who are due to be released today. A German
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Israeli is to be released along with an older man
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: who has taken hostage from his home in southern Israel.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: And then there's five Thai nationals who are meant to
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: be released today as well, part of a small group
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: of foreign hostages that haven't been talked about that much.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: But you can only imagine the joy and the relief
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: for those parents as they get their their girl back.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Caleb, you know what more.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: Can you say than that, really, that it would be
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: from the worst moment of your life on October seventh,
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: most probably when a family member was taken away from
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: you and you never knew whether you would see them again,
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: to what is now probably the.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Best day of your life.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: And we shouldn't forget because we're here saying how great
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: it is that the hostages have been released, and that
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: is true, but don't forget the pain that these people
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: have been through over the last what is it thirteen
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: fourteen or months, hour or longer than that, actually, but
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: the pain that they've been through not knowing whether their
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: loved ones are alive, whether they will ever see them again.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: You know, they will be feeling.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: Absolute abundant joy today, but I suspect the pain and
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: the trauma that has been inflicted upon both the family
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: members and the hostages that they've been experiencing for more
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: than a year will be something that will stay with
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: them forever. I mean, getting your family member back is great,
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: but it's not going to stop the pain that was
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: caused for all that time.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: She was held hostage four hundred and eighty two days
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: by harmas.
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: Terrorists talk about a long awaited reunion, and every one
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: of those days would have been agony for those at
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: home waiting and to think that some are still waiting.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: Well, among those waiting, and I mean, everyone's desperate to
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: know the status of those two little children, a five
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: year old and a two year old, who had taken
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: hostage along with their mother and still her. Mus have
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: refused to say whether those little kids are even alive
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: or not, which is just the height of cruelty to
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: keep everybody waiting on that. You just can't imagine the agony.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: But for that family, good news today. They've got their
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: girl home. We're going to go to a break when
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: we come back. As I said, Trump's been issuing executive
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: orders left, right and everywhere else, but one you never.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Thought he would ever issue, will show you that.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Just welcome back.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: I've been to Kenya a couple of times, love the country,
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: have lots of Kenyan friends. But Caleb, You've got a
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: story that makes me love Kenyan's even more.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: Before we get to that, can you make a recommendation for.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Me if I go over there a recommendation?
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Sorry it was ken Can you make a recommendation for me?
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Ken you get it.
• 46:17
  Speaker 11: On your own.
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen, this is late debate history you have
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: just witnessed, because for once one of them is with
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: me not getting a dad joke, literally just staring was
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: half at your own joke, and I'm like, wait, what.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Was the only dad on the desk? Can I just
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: say that was not a dad joke anyway?
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Well, now that my thunder has been completely started.
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: Because these are philistines and good humor, we normally bring
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: you funny stories in Cig three. This one is actually
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: we're not well. I know I tried to bring some,
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: but this one is actually kind of you. Whu Kenyata
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: is the former president of Kenya, and the reason this
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: is so funny is because he's just speaking pure common
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: sense here to an audience of people who you can
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: imagine are seeing there agog that he is saying that
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: where as African countries should probably look after ourselves before
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: we go asking other people for money.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Take a look.
• 47:23
  Speaker 13: Trump has removed money. He said he's not giving us
• 47:27
  Speaker 13: any more money.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Why are you crying?
• 47:31
  Speaker 13: It's not your government, is not your country. He has
• 47:33
  Speaker 13: no reason to give you anything. I mean, you don't
• 47:39
  Speaker 13: pay taxes in America. He is appealing to his people,
• 47:44
  Speaker 13: shou heney, what are we going to do? Yeah, to
• 47:48
  Speaker 13: support ourselves because nobody is going to continue holding out
• 47:53
  Speaker 13: a hand there to give you. It is time for
• 47:58
  Speaker 13: us to use our resources for the right thing. We
• 48:00
  Speaker 13: are the ones who are using them for the wrong things.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: To do the joke again? Can you get that man
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: over here right now? We'd love some more of him.
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: I reckon, wasn't funny the first time, wasn't funny the
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: second time. Now, we've all heard about these incredible presidential
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: edicts coming down from President Donald J.
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: Trump.
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: Here's one that I sincerely wish he had signed into law,
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: but unfortunately it's just a parody. Really video, there's big
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: dog energy back in the White House.
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: He's making men masculine.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: And lastly, sir, we have an inconsecutive order demanding that
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: grown men stop wearing skinny jeans.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: That's a big one, huh.
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: Other people are waiting for this for a long for years, for.
• 48:49
  Speaker 14: Decades, amen, brother, I'm one of them. I've been waiting
• 48:58
  Speaker 14: for years for decades.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: If only this was legit, and also include ripped jeans,
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: which I have seen James McPherson wear in the newsroom too.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: I am a wetness I wear them really well. That's
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: it from us. The ground coming up is the Independent
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Show good night,