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Shut your pi-hole: Return to Monkey Island & Lego Skywalker Saga · Multiple Nerdgasm

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i c Bop this in at the wrong time cuz I'm taking tablets welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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Things nerdy are you also drinking a fancy
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flavor of Pepsi Max right now I I call nothing from Pepsi fancy okay fair
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enough but are you drinking something other than the what is it I'm drinking
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Max taste no sugar Vanilla Pepsi see I'm into that because I like vanilla but um
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recently Coke didn't do a vanilla with no sugar so I had to miss out that's a
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lot of words after Pepsi like Pepsi Max
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t no sugar vanilla I mean that's a new product
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surely NOP he's falling off the internet I've gone through like 60 cans of
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mountain Jew in two weeks oh he's back he's back he's back I went away you went
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away you went to another place that's weird I did read that coke are bringing
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out an energy drink now specifically targeted at video Gamers they've tried
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their energy drink before and it didn't work CU mainly because it was terrible
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which one did they have was it called something crazy or was it just called
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Coke energy I think it was just Coke energy it was just like was it a small
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can it wasn't anything fancy do you still have V in Australia we do yeah I
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used to like v v was my gateway drug to Red Bull and now I'm just on Red Bull oh
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I never like that much I'm blue V all
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the way blue V blue v no I like the traditional v no the black v the coffee
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flavored V is the best no yeah you're right I know that one yeah yeah cuz we
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didn't have you couldn't get Jolt Cola many places in Australia you could find
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time to time but yeah that was the one that was on TV all the time but you
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couldn't you had to know where to get it yeah exactly I think there was like a
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gas station in Kingswood that had it but I didn't want to go to Kingswood just for
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that yeah I mean the only people that went to Kingswood were people that
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forced to be in Kingswood already because they lived there like us like
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Luke and I I got a jolt cola but I also I also got bashed
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so that's right for the Jolt Cola one thing I really wish they would try and
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do in the show again is Bring Back Dr Pepper oh he's gone again Luke
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something's going on with your and he's got something interesting to say as well
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so I want to hear it something's going on with Luke's internet today I guess I
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mean it'll be on it'll be on his track it just won't be in our pie so we yeah
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we'll just react to it you did what to her is she alive I really want them to
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try and bring back Dr Pepper Dr Pepper never went away I get it for you right
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now just it was complete lack of I think would be interest in it now I
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think it's it's been enough time and the vanilla Dr Pepper was [ __ ] excellent
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yep cherry Dr Pepper's good too it's kind of redundant what is regular Dr
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Pepper yeah no that's that's what I mean it's it it's got a little bit of a
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cherry it's a little leans into it a little more it's good so the Coca-Cola
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energy drink aimed at Gamers is called Coke bite and bite of course is spelled
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b y t e stop it what's different about it uh well it's in pixelated font that's
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what's that's what's different does it tastes like Coke the actual Coca-Cola
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logo I don't know all right bite yes Coca-Cola bite
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bite are we getting that here I tried the pixel flavor zero sugar and it bites
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it's on the verge oh it's actually pixeled flavored is it it's not just graphic
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design okay yeah it's coming out here how do we target Gamers well let's
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[ __ ] put an 8it F bite on it let's call it B yeah they love it they love
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bites yeah exact kids on their XBox love knowing look talking about bites and
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bits and they remember what bites are they don't know how to Target Gamers
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because they're putting zero in front of
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sugar should be extra sugar yeah well maybe because like if if they're
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targeting game is in their 40s like we are like I can't have sugar anymore like
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you know what I mean I've got a the sugar-free alternatives for things so
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just speaking of energy drinks you just reminded me and we don't have to talk
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about this too much but you know I'm into F1 now right yes I cannot get
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behind the Red Bull team because you've got they just it just annoys me right
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because you've got um they're cheating Ferrari
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Mercedes Martin like Renault or or yeah and then Red Bull it's like [ __ ]
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off yes well hold on do they make their own cars assuming that Ferrari is made
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by Ferrari but so all the cars all the cars have to use the same Parts but the
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own teams work on it like you yeah you get to tweak them a bit there's like a
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selection so like there's there's a bunch of cars that use the Ferrari
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powertrain some of them use the Mercedes one some of them use the ren or the it's
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still the Renault one I think or renault's so it's like games that use
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the Unreal Engine yes but even speaking of engines you only get to use like
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three engines for the entire season oh that's right yeah you've this year they
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got very big restrictions too there's like you have limited spare parts too so
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like if you have an accident you could be just [ __ ] for the whole
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season like it's really interesting I don't care about it at all but it's really
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interesting a it's pretty good I got to anyway that's all there was pretty good
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pretty good crashes in the qualifier last night if you're interested guys
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stand in bull Team I'd imagine that the Red Bull team has got like [ __ ] like
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weird steampunk [ __ ] to their car I mean Red Bull were they were the champions
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last year I just all I know about the Red Bull brand is that they they sponsor
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the flu tag which is all people trying to fly yes you know with bicycles with
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wings that's what I mean I just can't get I just they just annoy me just cuz
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it's it's like Red Bull it's like no no there's one thing I get I'm still
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confused about with sort of F1 racing now and it's that they've got this big
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thing that goes in the middle of their Vision sure for on the little cage thing
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they in this little case thing and then this thing that goes straight down in
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the middle of where they would be seeing it's really weird H that's
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interesting yeah I didn't think of that but yeah that's fair man I can't deal
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with when they put like the helmet cam on I'm like I don't understand how they
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and react that fast when you're just watching him drive it doesn't look that
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fast but they're up at like 300 km an hour and yes exactly it's and there's
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not a driver and a navigator like in other Motorsports right nope no it's
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just it's like you've got to have [ __ ] reflexes I just don't even understand
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how I don't know how they don't crash more to be honest it's so fast the other
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thing is they also have to be look after their weight yes cuz there's weight
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limit for the car and that includes the driver like a jockey yeah that's yeah
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exactly well I know as was an interview listen to an interview with valry botas
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who's like used to race Mercedes on the alpha Rome team now he's he's great he
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might be my favorite driver Jenna likes him as well he must be very
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handsome he might be our family favorite he's the official driver of your family
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he's exactly he's from Finland he's he's a very cool guy but he was talking on
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this podcast about how he his girlfriend who's Australian is like a Competitive
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Cyclist and they go cycling together and and the interview was like oh do you go
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cycling a lot and he goes well I try not to cycle too much because if you do too
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much endurance stuff it affect your uh your ability to to drive in F1 effectiv
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the guy's like what and he's like well no no cuz you it affects your um your
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reflexes cuz your endurance is different to fast actions and this kind of stuff
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and then it's just like just on another level they will lose weight over the
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course of a race yeah oh yeah because they're sitting in the car for s two
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hours I mean the the only thing I know about Cricket for example is that Shane
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War managed to to be Australia's best fast bowler whilst being over weight and
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drunk so maybe it's like that you know it's like if I got to fit I literally
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wouldn't be as good at my sport yeah a Australian sports are a little bit
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different to the rest of the world you're going to get we're going to
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get letters for you referring to Cricket as an Australian sport I don't care
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letter from India there's a billion Indians who would disagree well we're
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better at it than everyone else so calling an Australian it's what we do
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they're going to they're going to call you complain about that and then ask you
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to uh let them remotely access your computer to fix the uh the virus that
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youve got on your Windows 10 installation racism but true um this
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week I was looking at Ferraris online as you do because you know I'm me I'm a
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middle Aston Ms as I do [ __ ] I'd love an Aston M I could afford one of those even
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less than I could afford a Ferrari but I've gotten to the point now where I'm a
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middle-aged man and I just like looking at cars I'll never afford yeah just look
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at them just look at them just watch videos on YouTube about them but um did
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you know and might have known both of you but I didn't know if you walked if I
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walked into a Ferrari dealership no matter how much money I had in my pocket
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they would not sell me a brand new Ferrari no you have to own two
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secondhand Ferraris first and even then it doesn't guarantee you there was a
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whole kafuffle did you know this no I didn't know the specifics of it I know
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that it's not as simple as that and I know that they're very particular too
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because there was that whole thing about when um ID got really wealthy off Doom
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yes they bought Ferraris and they went and modified they don't like that hooked
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up and he showed up at a no he showed up at a a meat and they were like get out
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I've just sent you both a snap of what I was talking about with the F1 and the
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weird thing that goes down the center of their Vision yeah no I know the thing
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you mean absolutely and now that you've said it I don't let me have a look I
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like how this is a shot from a video game well the easiest one to
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fine that's how I know all about it that's how I know use three power trads
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throughout the year and that's why they tell you it's a McLaren that's a McLaren
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car that's either either Daniel Ricardo or L Norris I can't tell which from here
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see McLaren you can walk in and buy a brand new one because they're not as
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particular about their brand as Ferrari is but Ferrari only want Ferrari
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Enthusiast see I would be that person that would go in I would get my hands on
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one and I'd paint it some bright green color cuz that's the color I
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want that's why that's why you're the reason you can get different colors from
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this list they'd see you they'd see you coming they would see you coming and
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they would send someone out to shoe you away I think you in the wrong shop sir I
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don't know why French well first of all they'll suggest that you buy a
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secondhand Ferrari and a classic one like one from the 80s right they'll
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suggest that and then once you've had that for a year or two years they'll
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suggest you buy one from maybe the 2000s and then only only then will they
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consider and apparently there's no guarantee you could be wealthy you could
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be famous you could be respectful of your they do not give a [ __ ] about money
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they only care about The Prestige of their brand and and the thing is they
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The Profit they are making on their cars they don't care oh they're [ __ ]
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expensive and it's not from the sales it's not from the sales I've been
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watching I was watching f i I watched like a dozen videos of people who regret
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regretted buying Ferraris and um so there's one guy he's like see the
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driver's seat you pull it back and it moves forward on its own see the
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passenger seat it doesn't it's supposed to I took that in and I said I think
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that's a fault and I think you should fix it they said we can't fix it but that's
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$20,000 deal with it yeah you wanted a Ferrari I'll put a
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video down the bottom for you speaking of Ferrari this is uh will buxton's a
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famous F1 journalist and this is him trying interviewing Sebastian vle who
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who now drives to asaman at the time he drove for Ferrari this is him
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interviewing him while FAL drives him around a track in a oh that's a
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beautiful Ferrari and uh see that's the kind of Ferrari I like too I mean
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there's kind of super cars and stuff that just look like spaceships I'm just
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not interested I mean you couldn't Park that in Kingswood could you I wouldn't
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park any of these cars I'd be too scared to try and park any of these
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cars to pick up my uh jol [Music]
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Cola so Matt a couple of weeks ago I was telling you and Luke about um
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a little incident in my driveway with what could have been a medical emergency
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or depending on who you ask could have been an exorcism collapsed or something
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yeah yeah the W the woman who just passed out you know that's right so we
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we don't know what happened um but I did get opportunity to discuss um that
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incident with those exact same group of neighbors uh because we've had a lot of
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rainfall recently um and our entire complex flooded the other night and I
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saw ises a few outside with a broom so
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yeah yeah so basically all the guys in our Apartments ended up down the back of
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our driveway with brooms and other bits of Implements of Destruction and trying
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to move the water from the drain that was clearly blocked to other drains that
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maybe weren't as blocked um before it ruined all our stuff my garage and my
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neighbor's garages are on the same level as the front doors of our backward
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neighbors so we were trying to protect our garages they were trying to protect
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their living rooms so the stakes were different for everyone but everyone had
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something to try and protect I was going to say yeah but um so we all worked
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together it was It was kind of fun knowing that we weren't actually making
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that much of a difference but we're all trying but uh everyone taking it very
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seriously but there was one bit that I I just wanted to tell you guys because I
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knew you'd love it so we've also had a little bit and I hope the new buyers who
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just bought my house are not listening but why would they
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be you got a poster up and they were like oh that sounds good and then when
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they were looking at the house yeah you know they they're looking around they
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might have seen the mic they might have seen some uh some multiple orgasm
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t-shirts hanging in the closet I've got a bit of a rat problem here at the
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moment [ __ ] the comple in just in the complex in general yeah um just in that
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room correct yeah it was a bin rat problem but I I know it goes deeper than
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that and I mean literally deeper because because I I've seen
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H where they come out there is definitely a colony well is it there's
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some saying like for every one rat you can see there's 10 around you that you
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can't or something not only that they say that if you live in Sydney wherever
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you are you are within 10 ft of a rat Jesus have you seen a rat king if you
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can't see it it doesn't mean it's not there I I do know what a rat king is but
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I've not seen one I've only seen individual rats but i' I'd be very
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interested to see a rat king you know what a rat king is Luke that's the one
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where they all get sort of mangled together and turn into one giant Beast
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yeah their tails will get stuck together giant Beast yeah
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exactly they think with a hive
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mind it's like Voltron they just Nom yeah nominate one of them to think for
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them we'll just follow but no so it's [ __ ] pitch black we up to our knees
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in water and there's this one of our neighbors who's like kind of away from
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the others kind of near a drain that's kind of suspected as being one of the
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potential Rat King hotpots right and um so one of my neighbors yells out to him
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dude you're you're you're there's rats there man they're going to [ __ ] start
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gwing on you from under the water Jesus
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and then he he yells back rats I came to
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Australia from Iran nothing here can hurt [Laughter]
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me and I just thought that was the quote of the week that's
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fantastic mhm yeah he will go up against any Australian [ __ ] mammal yeah
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because whatever the [ __ ] he saw happen in Iran I mean there's some some beasties
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in Australia to be fair I mean probably not not in
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marsfield just yeah yeah was there a little rat with a shovel sweeping out
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his driveway that's right I should go and check on him yeah
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rexo and the Rats of nim remember them oh Rats of nim
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yes we get a new rat game coming out this year Well very soon we do and I'm
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actually looking forward to that cuz that's one of the few games that I
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actually completed in the last 12 months plag tail innocence was it reum yeah I
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got to play that very good that's uh innocence was the one that was already
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out so it must be re reent I got excited the other day I saw that stalker 2 was
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available on Game Pass to install it isn't and I installed it yeah and then I
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ran it and it said and I was like don't put it on there if you look at the file
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the file was probably like 10 Meg I know so what is it doing there they do this
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thing where they allow you to Pro they you're allowed getting you for a game
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that's like coming out next week or tomorrow no no no but it worked out good
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like I can you can pre-install it so I can pre-install it now so when I get up
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tomorrow it's installed ready to go M makes sense for that oh okay yeah except
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it's not because it's that's not the game clearly unless the game is yeah so
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in December when it comes out yeah any I got excited and then I tried
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to launch you thought made mistake and no one else knew about it
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except you well what else was it doing there what was I supposed to think I just it
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just said it doesn't say anything about like anything it just says it says
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stalker two and then it's install I was like [ __ ] yeah they assume you've been
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on Kaku enough to know that it's not [ __ ] out yet I mean I have but
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I not only that Matt not only have they definitely not finished this game and is
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it not ready to come out but nobody will release a game set in Chernobyl right
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now while it's [ __ ] occupied no no that's not true that's
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not true shinobite is uh is due for release soon and I uh hopefully I'll I
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want to have a go with that looks pretty good I agree with that I agree with that
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and they don't they they've been like [ __ ] it we'll release it yeah go for it
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I mean it's not their fault it's not the chernobylite fault that there's drama in
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Chernobyl right now unless it is in which case it's not it's not their fault
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I'm telling you right now it's not the Ukrainian fault that they're being
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invaded by Russia but I don't know where the developers of Chernobyl have from in
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oh I see I see what you're saying yeah I thought you were just taking a very
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[ __ ] controversial St no I know developers of the Sherlock games are
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from Ukraine so they've just re-released a devil's
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daughter Redux so I I brought that again and to be fair we don't have to hate on
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Russia the Russian military are not representative of the I got a lot of
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friends in Russia and like they're not invading UK Ukraine right now we don't
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as far as talk about this a bunch but they they think they're apparently they
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think they're fighting Nazis or something and they don't know the truth
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of what's going on they also think that the Ukraine is somewhere in Russia but
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they can get in trouble for saying they're War like they can be shot if they sort
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of protest and say stop the war we're not at War you shut the [ __ ]
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up I mean we can all agree that we we can all agree we don't like Putin though
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right we can all agree on that no I think you can well I mean not if you're
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in Russia you can't say that out loud in Russia either I don't think I am but man
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when I was in Russia there's a photo of Putin in everyone's [ __ ] house like
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yeah right it's it was like North Korea level [ __ ] yeah that's [ __ ] that
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aside it's actually been a big week for
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games uh oh no Luke disagrees I I'm
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enjoying a great game but I'm also a bit upset about a game oh go on yeah cuz you
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don't typically enjoy games you play more than anyone I like when L has
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strong feelings about something I know mixed feelings Matt he's got mixed
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feelings look strong mixed feelings I've been looking for looking forward to
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playing Lego sty Star Wars the Skywalker Saga for forever now this was B that
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come out last year and they postponed it and then they decided it will come out
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on the 5th of April which makes no sense why not just wait a month and release it
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on the the 4th of May cuz they can't do that every year with every Star Wars
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product just yeah but this one just one extra month we' had to later year why
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not I've played through the entire story I've enjoyed it but there's things that
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I think are missing from the game when you're in when you're playing return a
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Jedi you would think that would fly around and blow up the second death star
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mhm okay correct You' think that would I would think that no that's just a cut
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scene huh you you you defeat the emperor and then you see them wedge and Lando
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fly in blow it up and fly out and it's like no where's me flying around
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shooting things and blowing it up and it's just little things like that it's
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missing do you fly ships at other points yes and it's actually quite a good
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mechanic that I quite like like you fly around like space
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and you do a few things and then like a capital ship will fly in and then you've
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got to sort of take out the capital ship and then you can take command of it and
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stuff like cool stuff like that but then lowercase ships as well yep lowercase
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ships as well bwing but it's a lowercase
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b i don't get to blow up the Death Star that's I get to watch it Blow
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upot but I mean that's kind of that's kind of true to how it is in the film
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because I'm not watching a move movie it's Lando driving the Millennium Falcon
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it's none of the it's none of the main cast it Lego I could play every
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character yeah you can be the gonk Droid if you want to play play as the gonk
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Droid I've already unlocked the Super gonk Droid he's made of gold and
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Invincible EXC hang
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what I don't remember him from the movie no so I I used to I played the
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Lego Star Wars on like I want to say may it was
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firsts back when I was a PlayStation are they any different these days yeah
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that's what I want to know what's what's how far have we come um they said
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they're making a lot of changes to like past versions I don't quite see what they
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are okay okay like it's it's pretty much to me it's the same as like the last few
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sort of iterations and I do like how like the world's now it's not just level
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select the way you go it's you start this and you'll fly here you'll fly
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there the missions that'll spend like you get a mission here it's open world
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it is sort of open world that's really okay and is their
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Base building and I'm literally building out of Lego no they did that for Lego
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Star Wars 3 I think that' be cool you sort of commanded troops and
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stuff H but yeah no I'm still enjoying it I just I'm a little upset that it's
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missing some pretty big stuff from the game I think but I am I well you're quite a way
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through it if you're already at return of I've already finished all of the
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story I'm now just playing through and getting all the Collectibles mhm I'm
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having fun playing as the Mandalorian cuz he gets little baby Yoda following
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around his little shoulder oh nice God are there little digs you know is there
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is there a bit where you play as Han and and you you just can't ever shoot
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first oh no they do have that they do have that little scene play out and it's
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like Han and G like sort of ducking and shooting each other and both missing and
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Gro running away and so they've already done all of these movies into games this
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is not just like they smooshed them all together this is like a whole new game
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it's a whole new game and that's something something they did to come out
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we're not just going to like remaster and put them out where remaking I
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actually thought this was just like here's all the Star Wars Lego games we
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already made in but they already did that too they already did no I know
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that's yeah I think it would have made I didn't look into it but to sort of start
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with yeah come out with those levels just throw them in create the new movies
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and then sort of make a world in between I think that's what that should have
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done I think it would have been better instead of starting from scratch cuz I
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think that's maybe what it is like they probably got looks like I didn't want a
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new game I wanted the games already play they may have thought like look we've
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had them fly through and destroy the Death Star a couple of times so what
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they're probably sick of that so let's not put it in this time and let's do
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something else well no that's forward through that bit in the movie too
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boring seen
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it was that Super gonk Droid again yeah
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where is he but yeah I will there God there's a lot of Collectibles this time
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I've got about 600 more to get they got you they got you L they
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knew how to get you yeah they put you on the end 100% every Lego game oh they
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know they know that they know that speaking again we don't have to talk
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about this too much cuz it's we' already talked about but I put no man's sky on
26:02
just cuz I saw a video and I want to play it I'm I'm it's just I'm stuck why
26:09
how much has it changed oh it's changed so much there's like what tons of stuff
26:14
it's I I don't even know where to start so the base building the the whole
26:17
building system is completely different it's all
26:21
like it the the is it better yeah it's fantastic it was already good and now
26:28
it's even better it's just like it doesn't cost anym it wasn't always good
26:32
and they just want a bafter so I mean I guess they can they can stop
26:37
now I guess but but yeah it's just it's just great and that's thing I love like
26:41
they're not asking for money not they're not going de so they just go this update
26:45
is all of this stuff and like I know we've talked about
26:49
exactly this thing before so I won't go on about it but it's it's it's perfectly
26:53
tuned to where you can't stop because there's always something that you're in
26:59
the middle of always I played a game this week that's a little bit like that
27:02
that I know the game you're talking about you do you do know the one go
27:08
on yeah so I mean after hearing you guys talking about subnautica last week I I
27:14
just had to give it a go because I too uh am looking for like a lowkey Conan
27:19
and this definitely fits into that and it's science fiction um and also just
27:25
the [ __ ] Tranquility of existing in this underwater world is just so
27:30
enticing but [ __ ] me if it's not a Time burglar I was playing it the other night
27:35
and I said to myself I'm only going to play till 900 p.m. and then I'm going to
27:40
shut this off so the second no matter what I'm up to the second switches over
27:44
to 9: I'll shut this off I looked at my clock at that exact moment and it was already
27:49
11: I was I thought it was like seven it's
27:55
this just oh my god well I'll just dive down and I'll just find the things I
27:59
need to make this next [ __ ] piece of equipment yeah and and then all of a
28:04
sudden you have on an adventure again yeah that's right I discover I'm like a
28:09
shipwreck I've got to [ __ ] search shipwreck yeah no it's good I got the
28:15
only reason I'm not still playing it and I honestly the only reason I launched no
28:19
man sky is because my subnautica save I I I did a thing so so
28:25
there's no time limit on the game but there are things that happen at times
28:29
and it's good to so you get a little time and it's good to go and experience
28:33
them and so I did a couple things and
28:36
then I guess didn't save because next
28:40
time I launched it had a timer on again and I was like no no no no no no no no
28:45
no I've done that and a lot of other stuff and so I mean I'll go back to it
28:50
but that but it annoyed me enough that I was like I'll play no man Sky yeah cuz
28:54
like you don't go straight back into I've got to replay the last 5 minutes
28:58
replay the last 3 hours which yeah well I think and tomorrow or next week that
29:04
won't bother me as much as it does right now exactly man I do have been wanting
29:09
to play that again it's real good I think about it I
29:13
think they're both I've never deleted it off my you know when I'm making room for
29:17
new games I'm deleting them I've never deleted that I might want to come back
29:21
to that been updated for Xbox series X looks beautiful M there's new planet
29:26
types at least I've never seen them I Leed on a planet that was just like
29:30
[ __ ] uh look like the Las Vegas Blade Runner 2049 I think look it's all orange
29:37
and like there's a volcano that like a wall of flame comes you have to get in
29:40
your ship before you get I they tweaked the code a little bit with the
29:44
randomness because a lot of the time the randomness looks pretty
29:50
sey yeah yeah a bit more random now yeah I think it's more like Star Wars I've
29:56
got like an ice planet and a yeah scorched I think they just yeah they
30:01
just played around so it's still random so you're not quite sure what you're
30:04
going to get but it's not going to be yeah I've seen this same Planet six
30:11
times now I'm going to go play it after this no I'm not I'm going to play Star
30:15
Wars the progression is different like the story is expanded the progression
30:21
there's more stuff to do so like I restarted a new game and it was like go
30:25
and do all this stuff that it's new I've never seen it I've done that three times
30:30
now I played it when it first came out on the Xbox and then I played it again
30:33
like a year later and it was I was like oh this is all different and then I did
30:36
it again a year after that it's all different again and then now again
30:41
so speaking of games that aren't different when you play them years later
30:45
last week we were talking about um Ken and Roberto Williams and we were talking
30:49
about the uh the Sierra games and I got so nostalgic I played two of them this
30:53
week no three I played three Sierra games this week so my favorite when I
30:57
was kid was always police Quest because do do you own all of them cuz I got keys
31:02
if you need any if you're missing any I do own all actually I don't own the I
31:07
don't own the space quests okay you want space Quest I own this don't own the
31:11
space quests all right um police Quest took me years I finished it as a kid but
31:16
it took me years mhm and what's disappointing to me micophone yes I did
31:23
and I can play it in a single setting no saves no exploration I can just play it
31:28
through and actually it's incredibly simple when you just play it you're
31:32
you're really just following instructions given to you like it's it's
31:35
so simple it's still a good game though I really love it um yeah but if you
31:39
don't ask for that microphone you're [ __ ] and you you die and you better
31:41
hope you saved that's the worst thing Sierra games is that you can yeah that's
31:45
right no no that one's not so bad cuz that's from the late ' 80s the early 80s
31:48
ones are far worse um king's quest you can play the whole game knowing not
31:53
knowing that you can't finish it sure and also king's quest the first king's
31:57
quest is not a very good game it is there's not even a story it's just a
32:01
series of events that that happen in whatever order you unlock them it it's
32:06
actually a very bad game I don't remember why but I read an article like
32:11
a couple days ago about the Sierra games and how that happens and actually might
32:15
have been on rdit subreddit about them but and then people kept mentioning in I
32:18
think it's legis Suit Larry 2 there's a bit where if you need a bobby pin right
32:25
but you don't know that you need it in 2 hours and then the only way to get it is to to
32:30
the only way that you would ever figure out how to get it is if you drank a bowl
32:34
of soup that was there which and then choked to death on the bobby pin that
32:40
happens to be in the soup because you need the bobby pin right but you can't
32:44
drink the soup CU you'll die so you just need to somehow into it right if you
32:49
were just playing this through you would somehow need to figure out all the be
32:53
bobby pin in that soup right yeah what what so no Sierra games expect you
32:59
ridiculous to try everything and they expect you to die doing a bunch of stuff
33:04
and then try different things ridiculous yeah that's part that's part of the
33:07
process they just assume that's keep talking I'll be back in a minute all
33:11
right so the first one that I played was police Quest and I played uh king's
33:16
quest as well awful if Luke sends me that key I might play Space Quest yeah
33:20
yeah I'm not interested in playing any of the VGA remasters or anything like
33:22
that [ __ ] that um but I also played another game that I hadn't played before
33:28
Now Matt you mentioned last week how Sierra started which was basically text
33:33
Adventures right they they they started making some text adventures and then
33:36
when Ken Williams bought himself an Apple 2 he was like I reckon we could do
33:40
pictures as well so they started making but one of the text Adventures that they
33:46
made was a game called wait for it soft
33:50
porn Adventure yes yeah and um it wasn't available in stores believe it or not
33:56
you could only get it mail order from um the Apple 2 magazine it came in a Ziploc
34:03
plastic bag with um a home printer label
34:06
stuck onto it yeah but it had a full
34:10
page ad in the magazine that included um
34:15
Roberto Williams and two other female staff members of Sierra naked in a
34:21
bathtub say did you know that that was her and two other people they were just
34:25
like guys you I do hop in the tub the
34:29
70s were very different imagine that now guys I'm making a porn game and I'm
34:35
going to need um the hottest chicks in this office to get their tits out for
34:39
the poster you you and not you you yeah
34:45
that's right I'll do it oh we're good we're good no yeah yeah um terrible game
34:51
one of the worst games I've ever played but interestingly enough um somebody's
34:56
done a a port so you play it in your browser so if you want to play it if you
35:01
want to play it just Google it you can play it right now I earn it on Gog I
35:05
sure sure you didn't pay for it did you it's not worth more than a dollar or two
35:10
I'll be honest I don't remember I might have but I don't remember you might have
35:12
got it in a pack or something but um I was like oh Roberto Williams in a tub
35:18
yes please now not only does she does she not feature in the game nothing
35:23
features in the game it's purely text Adventure um but even like I had some
35:28
great text Adventures back in the day on c64 and Amiga and all that that still
35:32
had some illustrations oh yeah yeah but um but this wasn't that this is pure
35:38
text but a lot of the storyline from this I'm using quotes for a storyline as
35:43
well um were reused in the original Leisure Suit Larry you start off in a
35:47
bar you've got to get into the back room you get the password off the wall in the
35:51
men's room yeah um so a lot of the stuff a lot of the stuff they reused for that
35:57
there you go yeah apparently Sierra was a [ __ ]
36:00
wild place to work then yeah like and
36:05
they they they would have been arrested these days I think what that least for
36:11
sure yeah for the some of the [ __ ] that went on in that [ __ ] office but also
36:15
can you imagine working for a company that's owners and operators were a
36:19
husband and wife team one of which is a computer programmer and the other is
36:24
just the wife of a computer programmer who fancies herself a bit of a gamer you
36:28
know what I mean like Roberto says she wants you to change this whole [ __ ]
36:32
thing to now now you play as a [ __ ] pixie who does this thing for [ __ ]
36:37
sake and also she's drawn the pictures oh how much are we going to get paid
36:43
okay sure I'll do it yeah how much cocaine are we going to do while we
36:47
while the game yeah okay I'll do it budgets on these old games were massive
36:53
though more than you'd think we're going to do all the work in the hot tub sure I
36:57
guess yeah that makes up for the fact that when I'm doing the art the mouse
37:02
hasn't been invented yet and I can't even literally draw physically I have to
37:06
draw with coordinates so I just have to use XY coordinates to [ __ ] draw over
37:11
these pictures that Roberto Williams has
37:15
done yeah yeah different time man they
37:19
made some great games though oh they did they went from like five people working
37:25
out of the back room of their house house to the rich some of the richest
37:31
people in the tech industry in like a year that's the thing yeah it's like the
37:35
culture of a company that was just a bunch of like goofy people from yeah and
37:40
then just incredibly wealthy all of a sudden same with ID I guess I mean look
37:45
what happened with John Romero John Romero yeah bought into his own [ __ ] too
37:50
much and then yeah wa yeah he's still kind of yeah but you look at ion storm where
37:55
there's that great article that I should I should find and save it was one of my
38:00
favorite articles I've ever read about just the game industry was an interview
38:03
with John Romero when the the article opens where the interview is talking to
38:07
him and then he gets another email that says you're a [ __ ]
38:11
idiot daana was a piece of [ __ ] and then you just you see John's he said John's
38:16
face just fell he's like this happens a lot I get a lot of these emails and just
38:21
the whole thing about how after Doom he was just like I'm the [ __ ] best game
38:25
designer in the world yeah and he bought
38:28
um the whole top floor of a skyscraper in Seattle with like glass ceilings and
38:35
then put in all these desks and stuff and all the developers were like we
38:38
can't see anything on these screens from glare from this Skylight and and then he
38:43
put in a big IMAX theater and they're like we'll just watch movies then and
38:47
then yeah that's great mind you I did I've read an article about him recently
38:54
that said and not in an underhanded way because everybody loves Doom but
38:59
basically saying that it's singlehandedly [ __ ] the imagination that went into game
39:06
development from the point where Doom came out that all firstperson shooters
39:11
from that day on are now stuck in a doom Loop that they will never ever get out
39:15
of yeah that makes sense but they did get out of them like just not in a good
39:21
way no well did they but I mean if you buy if you buy any FPS now it's still
39:27
just Doom better doom doom with r tracing and you know what I mean like
39:33
it's still just you can get Doom with ra tracing now you can actually yeah but
39:37
now with like first person shooters unless they're focusing on multiplayer
39:41
they're more linear in how you play whereas Doom was you're going to play
39:46
the same level over and over and go backwards and forwards and get this key
39:49
and go back here and doom was just the perfect like they knew exactly what to
39:55
focus on and what to leave out that was like the story is stupid but they were
40:01
like it doesn't matter like and they knew it didn't matter it was so that
40:05
really like the first big mainstream game that there were other games yeah
40:11
but Doom was what really K yeah ever um
40:17
I had a look um I've either already given you the space Quest key or I've
40:22
given it to other people cuz I've owned it twice and I've I've both keys maybe I
40:27
should check I haven't loged into steam for a little while now may look that
40:31
brings up something else actually um so I've crapped on and on in the past about
40:36
the omiga 500 being the kind of most nostalgic computer for me um you know is
40:42
the the computer that really really got me into games yeah mine's the comer 64
40:46
yours is the Amiga and it says a lot about us as people I think yeah that's
40:51
right Matt Matt is has an 8bit processor I got 16bit processor so you know uh and
40:56
that's just how it is just because they know exactly how to get the 40-year-old
41:01
Gamers to spend money they do last year they released the c64 mini which Matt
41:06
did you consider getting that I know you at least considered it I had to I think
41:09
we talked about a little bit I had to jump through hoops to convince myself
41:12
this is a stupid idea to buy one what was the one you did buy I I guess
41:19
drunkenly bought the Atari 2600 well not the VCS the Atari
41:25
VCS I mean it's a new console but the only thing that I have on it 2600 games
41:30
so it was literally a waste of money except the controllers are cool it's and
41:35
does it look yeah it's beautiful oh I see it's okay so okay so okay put a pin
41:40
in that because I'm coming back to that in a sec so this week they released the
41:43
mega 500 mini and I to say that I'm excited is is an understatement I've
41:48
I've been I've been whenever I'm not looking at Ferraris I'm looking up
41:52
[ __ ] Mega 500 demos cuz all the all the tech reviewers have got their things out now
41:58
this is essentially just a box where you can load ROMs onto right it comes with a
42:03
couple it comes with 20 I got a raspberry pie right here that I can do
42:08
can get for a lot cheaper MH yeah yeah so you can you can you can you can turn
42:13
a Raspberry Pi into the best Amiga that never existed right yes exactly um the
42:18
um and you can go on Etsy and buy a 3D printed Amiga shazzy I was going to say
42:24
that's it doesn't look like one unless I do that in which case it does yeah but
42:28
but they're not as good as this cuzz this is a beautiful little housing of
42:31
the old Amiga it's beautiful it comes with the big tub here's what you can do
42:37
ask if they can just send you the shell cuz you're never going to use it yeah
42:41
okay so that's that's what I want right because I want that on my shelf but I
42:46
also want to play old amga games but I could download I could a [ __ ] switch
42:49
sitting in a draw here I could put the igga emulator on that and just download
42:52
the ROMs for 2,000 amga games onto that man I've got a PC laptop in my [ __ ]
42:56
drawer that I could just fck I could play literally all my games
43:02
on that go on eBay and just try and find one that doesn't work yeah cuz you don't
43:07
need it to work you just want to look at it I want to look at I want to look at
43:12
it scratch on the back and play some old Amiga games I know someone that like it
43:16
just died and like yeah yeah yeah well I mean it's brand new none of them are
43:21
going to be that yet or you mean an actual igga that just doesn't actual
43:24
amga 500 that doesn't function are so rare and they are so expensive now
43:28
because you can get them to work and there's there's a couple of people
43:31
around that can can get old Omega and people beef them up and and and put
43:36
flash discs in and just play Old ROMs like it's put 20in
43:40
wheels exactly exactly right yeah um but I want this so bad but I had to
43:47
literally restrain myself from from ordering it because it is a literal
43:52
waste of money whereas I had two things Kickstarter arrived this week like what
43:59
what did you get um I got uh there's a game series called tiny epic yes so I
44:05
got tiny epic Dungeons and then I got two albums two
44:12
vinyl albums from Biz okay from oh Biz I was going to say from BS we've never
44:17
heard of but no we've heard of them because you mentioned them on the show
44:19
two weeks ago yeah so we should all know who that is yes and they're doing vinyl
44:23
because they're like we can't make any money if we just sell tracks like an mobile
44:27
people have to pay us $50 for an album I I backed something on Kickstarter and it
44:31
was a com 64 thing uh like last week and
44:36
as as a backer I'm getting a framed signed print of uh the cover of the Dark
44:41
Star video game on com 64 oh how much did you spend on that which is the only
44:47
reason I cuz that's that's a higher up
44:49
te that's not a I don't remember I don't
44:56
remember also I'm hoping my wife doesn't listen to this
45:01
episode yeah that's not the I'll give us $5 for your support will send you this
45:07
no no no uh I I can justify it yeah you
45:12
really wanted it that's right I've just got to get my [ __ ] PC laptop working
45:17
again I need to reinstall Windows on it which is no easy task when you don't
45:20
have another PC in the house I might be able to help
45:24
you are you going to post me a USB with um Windows oh that's easy to do you can
45:30
do that in 2 seconds not without another PC I can't yeah you can you can download
45:35
it onto it from a Mac yeah yeah it's problematic I've tried it there's weird there's weird
45:41
little things I've got to do I could post your USB that's easy putting down
45:45
the bottom it might come cover click through and you'll see why you see why I
45:49
like this so bad magnificent and the
45:52
game looks nothing like that no is trash
45:58
no okay no but I heard a great quote the other day I heard a great quote on one
46:02
of the Retro Gaming podcasts that said because the graphics were so bad a lot
46:08
of it happened in your mind yeah and so cover art was very important we think of
46:13
it now as like that's misleading no no no no it's what made you get in the mood
46:17
to play a game that looked nothing like that so that you could picture that
46:21
while you were playing some sh games where you get it says when you get to
46:25
like this screen open up the book read through the manual and it'll tell you what you
46:32
see there's a game and I'm sure I've done this on the show before but you
46:35
know I'll do it again listeners if you can identify this game right in please
46:39
right it's comos 64 game I thought it was called space a I cannot find a game
46:43
called space a that that is this game um space a was um like um Dragon Age the
46:49
dragon yeah see that's not it so this game was like space a the well the game
46:56
whatever the game just a tape that I with
46:59
the4 at some you in a spaceship you flew
47:03
along and you had to rescue scientists right and I know that sounds familiar
47:08
but there's more to it because that's like Defender right it is very much like
47:11
Defender right but you pick them up with the tractor beam and then at a certain
47:14
point you could purchase upgrades for the ship and the goal was to eventually
47:19
fly out of the atmosphere and take out a gun turret on the
47:25
moon right that does that does sound a bit familiar though I whatever that game
47:30
is it I I don't know what it's called I've been trying
47:35
to maybe I'm better off not remembering because it's exactly like you said Dan
47:40
in my head that was the greatest game it was I spent so long I loved it it was
47:46
amazing and if I ever eventually find it I'll be like oh I just sent you a chat
47:51
snapchat I think I found it you [ __ ] off you did
47:57
oh my God that's it what is that it's space a space a
48:01
21101 space a that's the game [ __ ] found it and actually it
48:07
looks pretty good Matt hang on a minute doesn't look I don't think that looks
48:10
too bad okay you you didn't have to try that hard to find I it was a I typed in
48:16
space a game c64 and it was the first leag you knew what it was called when
48:21
was that video posted that say 2019 that might explain it I haven't looked recently
48:28
you think you think no one put it online until recently everyone had just it was
48:31
a forgotten game 2101 that's the one that's the game
48:37
there you go came out in
48:42
1988 2010 that video was posted all right so I guess I just didn't try hard
48:47
enough 88 was late in the game for a c64
48:50
game too yeah yeah I I typed in four words into
48:55
Google what were the full words space a game c64 didn't type in full Cal cuz I'm
49:02
too lazy so Matt just to be clear you you didn't buy this c64 mini no I did not
49:09
and and they also brought out the c64 Maxi which was the same thing but
49:13
actually full-sized as well I did not because I convinced myself that first of
49:16
all if I got it right it was going to be another thing on my [ __ ] desk that
49:20
hooked up to a monitor or hooked up to a TV well you probably wouldn't even you
49:24
hook up you wouldn't hook it up to a monitor cuz it take up as spot and you
49:27
would never actually use it except for the day you got say and then and then
49:31
but but except it would have to be hooked up to something because it's
49:33
literally a keyboard right the only way to interact with it and a
49:37
non-functioning keyboard a nonfunctioning keyboard so yeah exactly
49:41
so yeah and I was like no it's ridiculous I have there's a very good
49:45
Comm 64 emulator called Vice which I'll play Space 21101 on at some point yeah
49:51
yeah so the interesting thing about the A500 mini is that it comes with a
49:56
controller which the Omega never did it's it's like it looks retro but it's
50:02
brand new cuz there wasn't a controller for the Omega it was all uh joystick
50:07
based um unless you have an idea of what you want to use it for don't do it oh
50:14
like as in what games I want I know I've got a list I've got a run think of it
50:18
for games think of what would you you can't do anything that's not games on
50:22
you can't get workbench on it and like do some basic Amega programming or
50:25
anything like that it's just a console don't get it there's no there's not even
50:29
a keyboard the key I mean the thing is a keyboard it's not a functioning
50:34
keyboard don't do it this is coming from me I know so you can't even type on it
50:41
no oh I'm almost positive you can't type on the c64 mini either you're probably
50:45
right but you know but a man I want it and I also for I for some reason lately
50:51
I've been weirdly nostalgic for the PS1 and you can get the PS1 mini as well and
50:55
I'm [ __ ] but PS1 games are in we've talked about this they're in that era
51:01
that's they're uncanny like you better off with like I've got like this the
51:05
SNES mini which I think is a better get than the PlayStation One Mini I think
51:10
yeah those games would have aged better and be more playable than a Playstation
51:14
One game I've got that Raspberry Pi that I also already mentioned yes that does
51:19
all I want to hear more about your Raspberry Pi actually I've got two
51:22
actually cuz I didn't know you had that I've got one downstairs that is runs um
51:26
py hole which is a hilarious
51:29
name p hole Yeah it blocks ads um right use it as a you use it as your DNS
51:36
server and it'll just stop ads from appearing it can break some legitimate
51:42
websites though I don't support adock
51:45
useful why not I'm cuz I I support by watching the
51:51
ads yeah actually I just pay I just I just pay websites money so don't the ads
51:57
exactly I pay for Content so [ __ ] ads
52:00
yeah um but no okay fair um so I have a Pyle and then I have another one that
52:06
has uh retro Arch on it which is a Linux inst Linux drro that's specifically for
52:12
um running emulators and it's completely legal and
52:17
that's all I'm going to say about it but I recommend it yeah well as as long as
52:21
you own the ROMs it is legal oh I definitely own them yeah 100% possession is n910 of the
52:28
law would be on here if yeah yeah exactly how would I have
52:32
gotten them how would I yeah okay all right you've almost
52:38
talked I think a lot of sites even turn a blind eye a lot of places even turn a
52:42
blown eye to a lot of the ROM sites for like old games until they start no one
52:48
technically but that's the thing a lot of these are from defunct Publishers
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that don't exist like who who owns the rights to some of these old games that
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was like Super Mario Brothers there was a site that was selling Nintendo games
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and Nintendo came after them and is of
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course Nintendo don't let anything slide did you guys realize recently somebody
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uploaded to Reddit one of the no no it wasn't even to Reddit it was to
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archive.org they uploaded scans of an old um Super Mario Brothers I think it
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was Super Mario Brothers 2 so if that gives you an indication of how old this
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is MHM yeah not cheap book like support book what am I trying to say the like H
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guide H guide yeah yeah yeah the H guide shut Nintendo of like seasoned assist
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send them like lawyers sent the letters and it's like that is a 40y old book
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that supports a 40-year old game that not for sale anymore it's not even like
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that's taking sales already it just hopefully means that Nintendo are
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hopefully keeping their history there cuz that whole archive project is about
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keeping the history of games alive and what went through so if Nintendo has
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still got that great but a lot of stuff has been lost over the years oh next
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time you are in camb let's go to the um there's a game Museum here it's quite
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interesting oh really y [ __ ] I'd love that oh I'm there you just reminded me
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there's a I've read another article the other day there's a there's an open
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source project I think it's on GitHub and it's called a little game called
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Mario and it's just like this open- Source video game but you can contribute
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to it and then so you can just make some contributions to it and then when you go
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for a job interview in the game industry no no but if you go for a job in the
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game industry they can go what have you worked on oh have you heard of a little
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game called
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Mario that's fantastic you do see some of these fan projects some of them I think they
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announce too early oh that's especially with especially with that like they
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announced it too early so it's not ready to release and in the shudio comes in
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and goes no you're not making that stop that right now what they need to do with
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those fan projects is make it release it and then announce it and then go oh okay
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yep we'll stop but it's already out there well that's tough though because
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that's a lot of effort to put in like maybe they're like we should see
55:17
if they're going to sue us like well they're going to soon no matter what
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some some don't some don't but if you're doing it as a fan project that you're
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not making no no the the whole idea about fan project the only way you're
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going to get away with it is if you don't charge for it that it is just a
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fan project a making and a release yeah sometimes they'll still see yeah but
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they they'll try but then when you go to court and go we we didn't make anything
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in fact it just cost us we just did this we've stopped it we've taken it off our
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website I don't have any money it's not just making money it's if anyone would
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reasonably think that was brought out by the original publisher you can't do it
55:56
too like it has to what are they swed me for I got
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nothing come at me also I'm not making any game you got all that I've seen I've
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seen plenty of Lego that you own they're not touching my Lego I'll hide that they
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could take that away from you Lego's all under my wife's name
56:15
no Oh I thought you were implying that he owned all that Lego illegally oh no
56:20
no just that they could take it I was like is that bootleg Lego I do you do
56:24
have bootle I do have bootleg Lego and I hate because of the way it's packaged is
56:30
it not called boot Lego it should be yeah cuz with Lego when it comes out
56:34
it's all in in the bags and you go you open this bag you build this part with
56:38
boot Lego just here's a bag of Lego and some instructions away you go it's it is
56:44
the Lego it's the thing we got it from the same Factory what do you want from
56:47
them L they have to get it put it in a bag and seal it up ship it out before
56:50
the government crashes the door but it is just so hard to if it was a small
56:56
thing great but normally when you're buying that type of Lego you're getting
57:00
something that type of Lego illegal Lego you're getting something
57:04
bigger and Lego in quotes yeah I bought
57:08
the Retro movie cinema bootleg from Malaysia and it is so big and there are
57:14
so many pieces and as Luke says they just come in a sack yeah so now it's
57:18
more expensive I just buy the real Lego I'm building a typew rider at the moment
57:22
once I finish a typewriter I'm building the Lego tyer is great it's not
57:27
functional but after I finish that I'm going to build the Luna Lander I thought
57:31
you going to say after I finish that I'm going to write a novel I was about to
57:34
say I could write a novel I'm no I couldn't L couldn't read a
57:40
novel well is that prerequisite but I will say this I would read a novel you
57:45
wrote I would love to read I will read every word of it or a short story I need a Ghost
57:50
Rider no it's it was a Ghost Rider wouldn't be interested actually no I've
57:55
seen seen I've seen some of your writing I'm not interested I've lost interest
58:00
already really [ __ ] hell yeah I remember you wrote that article for our
58:05
website you [ __ ] I don't remember that what was the article about I don't write
58:09
stuff Luke Skywalker is a murderer he is article murdered hundreds remember that
58:15
that's the one article he he wrote for multiple ner guys back to day I'm being
58:19
and he was only he was only the second worst riter we had working on that
58:23
site spell check set um Luke this might piss you off another
58:29
game has been announced it's not coming going to come out until quote sometime
58:33
this year um but surely surely you're going to check out Monkey Island 3 and
58:40
I'm being fous cuz I know there were more monkey Islands but this is done by
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Ron Gilbert who only worked on the first two yes and I have a suspicion that he's
58:48
only going to base this on the two the only thing that makes me wonder about
58:51
that and they haven't addressed it is that Murray the the talking skull head
58:57
from is in this correct and fuel to that
59:02
fire is that I don't know the story of how this came about but either he is now
59:09
in cahoots with Disney who own the rights to the rest of the sequels or he
59:12
has somehow bought the rights back I suspect did
59:17
he lose the video game rights no so he
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said he very famously said that he would never make another Monkey Island game
59:26
unless he owned the rights and in the trailer for this someone says I thought
59:32
Ron Gilbert said there wouldn't be another Monkey Island Game
59:35
unless and then it says a game by Ron Gilbert and then they but they don't
59:39
finish the sentence so the the implication is that in some or that he's
59:45
sold out yeah one or the is he just working for himself now or is he working
59:49
as part of a studio he works for himself he's got his own Studio like his
59:53
independent who published um thimble weed Park it's I forget toy terrible Toy
59:58
Box y terrible toy this is from so
1:00:02
devolver digital is doing the new Monkey Island but it's Lucas film games like
1:00:08
the trailer says it's Lucas film games I think which I think is interesting
1:00:12
because it's Lucas film games again which it originally was then it was
1:00:16
Lucas arts and now we're going with Lucas film games again yeah because they
1:00:19
got two monkey Islands were Lucas they got rid of Lucas Lucas arts and Lucas
1:00:23
Arts games cuz I went we'll just send this out and get other [ __ ] to make it
1:00:27
be fine and then that happened and then that was [ __ ] and so they went let's
1:00:31
bring back but looks like theol digital the ones that are publishing this look I
1:00:35
mean this is great news like I love Monkey Island I love monkey I will probably
1:00:40
wait best I'll probably buy it about 2 to 3 weeks after it comes out why I'm
1:00:46
going to wait for a walk [Laughter]
1:00:50
through I don't have time to sit there and try and work it out myself and I
1:00:56
even think playing a game like that with a walk through as long as you're still
1:00:59
paying attention to like the dialogue it's still enjoyable it just doesn't get
1:01:04
frustrating like what do I you know when you get to that stage of what do I need
1:01:09
to do and you start just trying to use everything with everything sure well I
1:01:15
mean the original Monkey Island you in Australia you had to know that in
1:01:19
America they call a spanner a monkey wrench so you had to know to twist a
1:01:23
monkey into the shape of a [ __ ] spanner
1:02:14
[Music]
1:02:26
Monkey Island you can be like oh you know I was I showed some story ideas to
1:02:30
Ron Gilbert um that he may want to use in uh future projects that's a good
1:02:35
point though because I saw um Ty Frank who's one half
1:02:40
of Ja Cory who write the expanse there's two authors who write under one name who
1:02:45
write the expans Books and he said on Twitter somebody um somebody was
1:02:49
complaining about the you know sending sending story ideas or or or short
1:02:56
stories or sending stuff out and then how they don't even read them and he was
1:02:59
like that's right we don't read them and you know why because then when I in in
1:03:05
10 years time come up with something slightly like that yes exactly then you
1:03:09
can't say you [ __ ] stole [ __ ] there to you yeah like he he said do not
1:03:14
send me stuff I will not read it I can't legally cuz it's it might even be like
1:03:19
in 10 years time it's mayn't be something that you intentionally are
1:03:22
I've remembered this I'm going to put this in it's just be that's what that's
1:03:25
that's what he yeah he's like I just he said I just can't do it just in Cas so I
1:03:30
will not read it oh that's interesting you see that's that must be
1:03:34
a new thing and it must have happened because there were lawsuits because I
1:03:37
remember back in the day reading that there were episodes of Star Trek written
1:03:42
by fans who sent them in and then the original creators of Star Trek were like
1:03:46
that's pretty good let's get this guy in well that's a bit different because it's
1:03:51
well no but well yeah but the problem is if they if they they they send it in
1:03:56
they go that that's good let's get them in or they go that's good let's make it
1:04:00
and not get do something like that like they did with Star Trek space
1:04:05
9 they stole that off you did they no they stole that off um the guy who wrote
1:04:09
babon 5 yeah yeah they actually did but they went far better they were and it
1:04:15
was called Deep Space five first and they were like that's too obvious they
1:04:19
actually did settle out a court for that but Luke are you are you part of that
1:04:22
there's a there's a large community that believe that um deep space is the
1:04:26
absolute Pinnacle of Star Trek are you part of that group as well do you do is
1:04:31
that your favorite is that you think which one sorry I dropped out us for a
1:04:35
second no I'm a voyager boy I like Voyager I don't know why that's my
1:04:41
go-to cuz six of Nine's in it and she's seven of nine Jerry Ryan seven of nine
1:04:47
sorry I was thinking of 69 with Jerry Ry again origin originally called five of
1:04:52
nine but then they had to change it because of Babylon 5 yeah in Picard
1:04:56
she's just known as sevens if there's not a parody a porn parody where there's
1:05:00
six of nine then that's a missed opportunity a porn parody of if it's a
1:05:06
porn parody of Star Trek next Generation and Jerry Ryan's character is not in it
1:05:09
then it's no you've you've missed it it's so obvious I remember there's an interview
1:05:16
I mean she's hilarious there was an interview with her on some talk show
1:05:19
where they said why does your character wear a skin tight suit like that and she
1:05:22
goes what do you think like
1:05:28
she because because the the Bor just do that but but what what do you
1:05:34
think yeah it is sort of a bit of a stupid
1:05:39
question yes no she's great I like I got Jerry Ryan's cool but that's yeah it's
1:05:46
like do do you want my in Universe answer or the studio answer yeah because
1:05:51
I have huge cuz I'm hot that's why yeah
1:05:54
exactly yeah and back and back at that
1:05:59
time he froze right at the wrong moment as Luke Frozen or is he just really
1:06:05
really considering what he's going to say I don't know what's going on dropped
1:06:09
out it's going to be so hard to edit because on the tape it's going to have
1:06:13
our response to him not saying anything and the thing he actually says a pain in
1:06:17
the ass they did it exactly the wrong time because and then just paus for effect
1:06:24
indefinitely say was at that stage they directing it was more
1:06:28
targeted at a male nerd audience than a general nerd audience damn right it
1:06:34
exactly yeah male nerds and like a handful of female nerds who were
1:06:38
good-looking enough to cosplay as that well no cosplay wasn't even a thing back
1:06:42
then that's why they that's why they got whoopy Goldberg to be in it remember
1:06:45
cosplay's not hasn't been around forever it's sort of only really a recent thing
1:06:52
sure I'm going to cause players will be Goldberg for packs
1:06:58
I don't think I think it's illegal these days Dan I'm just going to go around I'm
1:07:02
not going to do blackface I'm just going to go around denying the [Laughter]
1:07:08
Holocaust you know where you can deny the Holocaust
1:07:12
nowhere in the Afterparty uneducated household but no Jews allowed what's the
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called you going to confuse people after
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1:09:02
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