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Red Haired Giants of Lovelock Cave & Native Amercian Little People on SOR with Floyd Wills · The Cryptid Huntress

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have a wonderful show tonight for y'all. I have Floyd Wills here. We're
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going to be talking about ancient giants and the little people tonight. Don't forget
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that. Right after this show, After Hours has a fantastic show set up
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for us. So let's get to our guests. Floyd Wills is an experienced
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author and researcher of ancient mysteries. His lifelong fascination for those topics began in
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childhood and it has driven him to conduct investigations into sacred sites and out of
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place artifacts across the globe. He's the author of the book The Red Hair
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Giants of Lovelock Cave and Other Ancient Mysteries, which covers topics such as the
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nephilim, the nominalist, archaeological discoveries, and the little people of Native American
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tradition. He has a BS degree in Human development and holds certifications in hypnotherapy
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and neurolinguistic psychology. Please help me welcome for the first time Space Out Radio,
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mister Floyd Wills. Thank you very much, Jessica, Thank you very
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much for having me on your show, and thank you to your audience for
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tuning in. Well. Of course, listen, my audience loves the ancient
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giants just as much as I do, and so I am so excited.
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I've looked forward to this all week. Anytime I can talk about giants,
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it's a good day. Yes, it's a very interesting subject. It is
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it is now you have written a book on the Giants of Lovelock Cave.
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Tell me kind of how you got into the phenomenon of giants and all these
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mysteries of the world. Yeah, started when I was a young boy at
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the time. There was a popular television show on called In Search of hosted
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by the late great Leonard Nimoy, and it had topics on ancient civilizations,
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Atlantis, UFOs, Bigfoot, and that just captivated me. And so I
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was intrigued and went to my school library and any books they had on those
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types of subjects, I would be the kid that would be checking them out.
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So it started when I was a really young age. And then as
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far as giants go, I bought a book when I was probably around twelve
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or thirteen. It was on giants, and it just had stories about giants
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from all over the world. And I remember at the very beginning of the
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book it referenced the Genesis six account of the giants. It said, and
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I'm just paraphrasing this, it said, there were giants on the earth in
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those days, and thereafter, when the sons of God saw the daughters of
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men, they became. They went into them and they bore them mighty men,
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men of renowned And I thought, wow, that is kind of wild,
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like giants and having sex with human women and what's up with that?
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But I never followed it up at that point, and it wasn't until much
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later on I watched a presentation by Jim Vieira, another really great researcher on
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giants, and he did a presentation this was probably about seven or eight years
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ago, and he started referencing all these articles that he was discovering on these
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giant skeleton discoveries, and I was blown away. I couldn't believe it.
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I was like, is this real? Like could the you know these are
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newspaper accounts? Are they Are they all hoaxes or misidentification? What's going on
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here? And so I thought, well, if he could compile all this
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information, I should be able to go in and research these databases on these
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old newspapers and I could find these myself. And so I started compiling all
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these different stories and I was just simply amazed at how much was out there
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and how quickly I was able to accumulate these articles. So that's really when
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my interest in the giants really started peaking. Okay, I've got to let
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you in on a little secret. I met Jim via in person at my
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first bigfoot conference that I ever went to. Shortly after I began doing bigfoot
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field research. There was a bigfoot conference in North Georgia where Ron moorehead Okay,
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listen to this lineup, Ron morehead our, Scott Nelson, and Jim
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Vieira and the head of my bigfoot research team were all speaking. Okay.
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It was fantastic and I got to meet him. That was the first time
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I'd ever heard about giants walking the earth like in North America. I mean
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I had heard rumors and stuff, but he had, you know, all
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the newspaper articles, a whole bunch of a whole bunch of evidence of these
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giants with the bones and stuff. Exactly how I got really interested in the
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giants in modern day I want to say modern ay giants, but especially with
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like the Indian mounds and things like that. Yes, that's how That's how
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I learned about them was through him. Wow, that's interesting. That makes
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two of us. Yeah. And so as I collected these articles, I
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wanted to find the best evidence that I could on the giants, and and
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most of the articles, you know, they didn't have pictures. There were
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there were some that did have a few pictures, but the story that I
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kept coming across with the most evidence was the Lovelock Cave giants, the red
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hair giants, of Lovelock Cave. And Lovelock Cave is in Nevada. It's
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in the Winnemucca area, and the Piutes of that area they have in their
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oral tradition. There was a race of red haired giants that lived in that
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area, and they were very violent and they were cannibalistic. They were evil.
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They would attack the surrounding tribes. I mean even so far as digging
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pit traps to trap, you know, people traveling at night. They would
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dig up the dead and eat the dead. They were extremely violent, and
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finally the Piotes got tired of being attacked. They united with the local tribes
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and they waged war on these giants that lasted for over three years, finally
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culminating at the final battle at Lovelock Cave, where the last of the red
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haired giants were cornered and the Piotes threw brush in front of the cave,
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lit flaming arrows and burnt the giants to death. Wow, I mean they
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were that was a real threat, having these giants. About how tall were
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the giants? Did you say they're like seven feet ten feet? How big
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on average were the giants? There's different reports Now the discovery of the mummies.
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The skeletons that came out of that cave happened around nineteen eleven. There
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were two guano miners. One of them his name was John Reid, and
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he knew about this story about the red haired giants. And it's ironic that
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he was one of the individuals that made the discovery there because he had actually
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visited that cave back when he was a teenager. Him and his friends were
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trying to retrieve some horses that escaped his parents ranch, and this went on
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for several days and the weather turned really bad. It was raining, and
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they ended up outside a lovelock cave and John wanted to camp inside of the
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cave. He had no idea of the stories behind the cave, and his
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friend Natchez, who was the son of Chief Winnemucca, the prominent Piute chief
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in that area, told him the tale. At that time, he said,
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no, we're not going in there. There was a race of red
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hair giants that were very evil that attacked my people, my ancestors. And
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he even took him to the entrance of the cave and they could see these
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projectile points, some projectile points still embedded in the entrance of the cave where
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there had been arrows shot in there. Of course, John Reid he wanted
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to go in, you know, he was this teenage kid. He wanted
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to find out what was in there, and his friends convinced him to at
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least wait till the morning before going in, so they camped, woke up
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the next morning. The first thing he wanted to do. He lit up
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a torch. He wanted to go explore that cave, and his friends warned
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him, but he decided to go in. So he went in and took
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a quick look around, and all that he saw at that time were these
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big piles of that dung that you were so high that some of them almost
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reached the ceilings. So he didn't find any skeletons or anything like that at
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that time. But later on, as an adult, he became a mining
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engineer and ended up back at the cave, and then him and his friend
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made that discovery of the skeletons, the mummies, and thousands of artifacts.
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Now there's varying reports about the size of the mummies that came out of that
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cave, anywhere from some of the taller ones being higher than six feet to
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reports of seven eight eight feet tall. Wow, so there's yeah, there's
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different. Uh, there's kind of inconsistency. However, what I found was
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very interesting, Jessica. When I was going through the early archaeological records of
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that discovery, it said in the records it said the largest of the specimens
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of mummies was given to a fraternal local fraternal society to be boiled and used
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in initiation purposes. Oh well, of course, of course the occult has
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to be involved in this, right, right, of course, it's not
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it's not uncommon. That's really interesting. Now, I'm not sure if this
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skeleton is actually from Lovelock Cave or not. It's kind of clumped in there
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when you do a search on Lovelock. Yeah. No, that is not
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one of the skeletons that came out of the cave. But I do talk
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about that. That's the San Diego Giant that allegedly was found by some miners.
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An interesting story on that. The Smithsonian was interested in the giant and
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they sent some people to look at it, and they bought it from the
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gentleman that had it, and they bought it and they they took it,
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and supposedly they said they did testing on it and determined that it was gelatine
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and that it wasn't real, and then no one saw it at that point.
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And I thought the story was really interesting because the Smithsonian time and time
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again comes out and says there is no such thing as giants, or or
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you hear stories like the articles I was going through of giant skeleton discoveries,
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the Smithsonian shows up and they said, oh, we're gonna We're gonna study
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the skeletons, and they disappear and no one sees them again. So I
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was thinking when I was researching the San Diego John I'm like, I'm like,
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why are they even sending people over there to look at this thing?
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Because they say they don't exist, and yet they are going to pay money
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to purchase this thing, right, So why would you purchase Why would you
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purchase something pay money for something that you didn't even think existed. It doesn't
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make sentence. And for anyone who knows, we all hear about the Smithsonian
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hearing about the bones and coming in and scooba them up and them never being
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seen ever again. And as a matter of fact, I had a person
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who worked at the Smithsonian as an anthropologist on my show, not at Space
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Out Radio, but on my channel, doctor calls himself Doctor Lou. I
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heard that show. I was that was one of your first shows that I
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saw, and I was very interested. Yeah, it was a great show.
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I'm so glad you saw that because that was so cool. Uh.
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He he is not scared to talk about his time at the Smithsonian. He
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doesn't work there anymore. He's also an Army VT. He's he's a military
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vet. Okay, so he doesn't care. He's he talks about it now.
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Amazing, very smart gentleman. But he did come on the show.
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He did say that he was in charge of handling some of the bones,
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and I don't know if he was just you know, having to sign them
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in and out. I don't know what he was doing exactly, but he
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was handling some of the giant bones, and he made a very interesting statement
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about it. He mentioned that almost all of the skulls that he encountered had
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holes in the back of the skull. All the skulls had all of them.
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I remember, yeah, I remember hearing that and my ears perked up
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because in my own research on the giants, especially looking into a cranial deformation,
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artificial skull elongation and looking at some of the skulls in Piracis, Peru,
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which in fact, some medical doctors have looked at some of these skulls
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and said, these aren't artificially elongated. These are naturally elongated skulls. And
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what's interesting, what reminded me of what doctor Wu was talking about, is
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some of the skulls in the Paracas area actually had two holes in the back
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of their heads, and some of these medical professionals say that they think that's
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evolutionary in nature because their heads were so elongated, so large that the holes
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in the back of the skull would help with the circulation of blood in such
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a big head. Well, that would make sense. I mean, it's
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nothing is ever out of the question, Okay, doing what I do and
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interviewing so many different people with so much experience with different things like this,
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anything's possible. I think it's just cool that, you know, doctor Wu
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was able to get his hands on those skulls. Now, do you have
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you actually seen these skulls in person, any of the elongated skulls before.
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Well, I have not seen any. Well, I have seen one elongated
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skull in Oregon. I met a gentleman whose grandfather had one in his possession.
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He was in the military when he was younger, so this goes way
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way back, and he brought an elongated skull back to the United States and
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then it ended up in his grandson's possession. So I did get a chance
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to look at it, and it was very, very interesting. But I
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do have a casting of a real elongated skull out of Paracas. In fact,
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I have it right here. I know you like skulls. I remember
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in your interview with doctor Wu You're like, I like skulls. So this
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is one that I have that's a casting of a of a real skull that
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comes out of out of Paracas. And you can just see how how elongated
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this this skull is. And in fact, on some of these skulls they
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have, they they're missing what's called the sagital suture in the back of their
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skull. And the sagital suture is kind of they call it a bow and
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arrow because it's shaped kind of like a curved bow, and there's a line
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that goes through it like a notched arrow. And some of these skulls they're
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they're missing that. They don't they don't have that suture line. So even
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if they were artificially elongated, they should still have the sagital suture and and
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it's missing. So that is I find that very very interesting. And what's
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also interesting the skulls. Some of the skulls in Peru they still have patches
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of red hair on the skulls and and red hair. The people that are
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indigenous over in that area they don't have red hair. Oh that's a little
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suspicious, just slightly. Now. I so we hear about the Smithsonian taking
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these skeletons, people never seen them. Again, Well, I have it
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on good authority. I have a friend who sent me a picture who actually
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he may or may not own a giant skeleton, okay, from the Lovelock
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area. And actually that that skull that I had on the cover photo and
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the ones that I show sometimes, I have a picture of it here.
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This isn't a private collection, I do believe, or there's some like it.
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They're in a private collection. I was told. I was told that
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there are people who have giants from that area, giant skeletons in private collections
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that the Smithsonian will never find out about. Okay, but this is one
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of the one of the skulls. Yeah, I noticed that the jawbone is
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very large, very thick, and that's just like some of the pictures of
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the alleged skulls that came out of Lovelock Cave. Now, what's interesting is
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I totally believe that it's possible what you're saying, that other people in that
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area could have these skeletons in their possession, because the discovery was made in
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nineteen eleven at Lovelock Cave, but it wasn't until nineteen twelve. I believe
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that the first official excavation was done, and it was kind of sloppily done
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looking at the records, and it was just really disorganized, and I think
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there were probably a number of people that cherry picked that went into that cave
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before the archaeologist really went in there, and I think that a lot of
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that stuff could have been taken out. And what verifies that is there was
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a little museum in Winnemacca that supposedly had a few of the skulls that came
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out of that cave, and they were there for decades and decades. In
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fact, MK Davis had went there probably I don't know, thirty or forty
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years ago, and he took some photos of those skulls that were there.
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Now they're no longer there. The curators will say that they were repatriated back
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to the native tribes because of the Nagpra Act that was passed in the nineteen
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nineties where they could no longer display any of the Native American remains. They
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had to go back to the tribes. However, I did get a really
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good photo and got permission from MK Davis to use that photo in my book,
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and it's of a massive skull. It's huge, and it has a
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massive jaw like the picture that you showed. But what's particularly interesting is in
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the upper upper row of teeth, it's got what looks like a double row
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of teeth. And you will hear references in some of these newspaper articles of
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these skeletons that have double rows of teeth, and in fact they'll even get
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specific and say it's in the upper upper row of teeth. And then you
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go back to the biblical accounts when David and his mighty men were fighting the
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giants, they were actually fighting some of the brothers of Goliath. There's one
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giant in particular that's referenced that has a double row of teeth and six fingers
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on each hand and six toes on each foot. Oh wow, Oh you
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know what. I just met M. K. Davis for the first time
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yesterday. I'm not going to get into that right now. There's so much
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to talk about with MK. He does fantastic work ye, which is really
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revolutionizing just the field of cryptozoology in general. But he's really big on the
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Patterson Gimlin film and having that clear footage of Patty giants. Anything that he
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puts his mind to, he really goes. He takes a deep dive into
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it. Yeah, he's a great researcher. He is. He is,
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And I think it's important for people like MK to put their work out there,
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and for people like you and I just to even discuss this stuff publicly,
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just to put it down there. And I think it's also important that
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there are some private collectors. I was told that some of those skeletons might
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have come from a lake bed at Lovelock. Yeah, there was a lake
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in that area. In fact, the red haired giants supposedly would they they
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lived around that area. They were called, well, they were known by
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various names. One of them was called setika, which means tuley eaters and
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tuley is like a water plant. So this lake, it used to be
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filled with water and there was a lot of these, uh, these touley
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plants, and allegedly these giants would make different things out of the tooley.
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They would they would eat tuley, they would make basketry out of them,
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they would make clothing and things of that nature. So, yes, there
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was a lake nearby and it you know, uh, hundreds of years ago,
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thousands of years ago it was. It was much different. It was
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more marshy in that area and not not like a desert. Oh wow,
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much different back then. But wow. So yeah, I actually have a
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friend who lives in Winnemucca, and yes, I've got to go visit sometime
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and uh and go visit where the giants roamed. Yeah, I mean there
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there are places, he says, all over the South. You know.
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I'm here in Georgia and and I've been to the Edawa Indian Mounds, which
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are huge. There are other mounds all over Georgia. We have several different
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mound sites. And in the minute that I got out of my vehicle,
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I literally felt and heard I heard giants like giants. I just felt like
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there was a connection to giants to those Indian mounds out there. So I
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don't know, are you familiar, Like have you done research on giant bones
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being found in mounds? Yes, especially in the Ohio Valley. There's been
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a lot of reports of these giant skeletons being being unearthed in those mounds.
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So yes, I bet the Smithsonian got a hold of those though, didn't
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the right Yeah, just like in the Indiana Jones movie where at the end
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he says, Indiana Jones says, where you know, where is the arc?
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And they say, oh, we have our top men working on it,
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and then it shows it being carted away in a in a crate,
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right, put into a warehouse that's huge, and then it just kind of
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disappears, right exactly, a lot a lot of our history disappears. And
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there's something I think you called it Smithsonian Gate or something like that, right,
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Yeah, the Smithsonian Gate. And I think it was a quote out
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of the book nineteen eighty four. If those you know, those who control
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the past control the future, and those that control the present control the past.
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So it's all about controlling the narrative. And we had a brief conversation
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before the show about that, about the powers that be that want to control
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the narrative. And if you know discoveries like giants and you know, high
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technology in ancient times, if those if those things don't fit with the paradigm,
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then they're they're discredited, they're they're they're filtered out. Oh yeah,
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okay, And then we that kind of brings us to a timeline deception as
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well, and like when did these giants live here? How how old were
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some of these bones. I feel like we've been lied to about our timeline
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here, and like what kind of civilizations we had here thousands or even a
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million years ago? I don't know. I mean, I just feel like
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I think that there the timeline has been completely skewed for some things, like
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the giants. I agree. I mean, I think these things go back,
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you know, thousands and thousands, who knows how long. But if
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you look at most of your Native American tribes, they all speak of these
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giants, you know, they give them different names, and a lot of
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the tribes will say that the giants were in the land before they're before their
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ancestors got there, like when they got when they came to the land the
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giants were, they were already there. And what I find interesting is,
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and I referenced this discovery in my book. They're in San Diego. They
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were doing road construction back in the nineteen nineties and they uncovered a mast to
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don and the bones of the mass were broken up, and they found these
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stone cobbles that were clearly made by intelligent beings right there near the broken bones.
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And they tested the bones and determined that morrow had been sucked out of
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the bones. So whoever discovered this mammoth, they came upon it maybe when
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it was, you know, recently recently dead, and then they broke the
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bones open, sucked the morrow out for the protein. And the kicker of
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it is is that the bones were dated back one hundred and forty thousand years
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ago. And we have these artifacts there, right, and so we're told
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that the first people's came here what maybe like what twenty thousand years ago something
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like that, And so we have clear evidence that some intelligent beings were here
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at least one hundred and forty thousand years ago. Oh my gosh. That
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throws a wrench in the engine, isn't it. It throws a Wrench.
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So yes, I totally agree with you. I think the timeline is skewed,
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and these things go back thousands and thousands, maybe much longer, much
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older than that. Oh my gosh. Well, okay, So when I
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was watching Jim Via give his presentation at that conference, this is a long
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This was a while back. I think it was twenty twelve. He had
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newspaper articles from the eighteen hundreds and they all were speaking of giant bones and
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wild and wild men and things like that too, because there's kind of a
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it's almost like it gets sewed a little bit when people are describing giants versus
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sasquatch and versus wild men and wild women. Can't leave them out right,
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No, But but there's a lot of stories of this that were printed in
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newspapers back in the day, and they didn't hide it. They didn't hide
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any of it. With the with the bones. What happened? Why do
27:57
you think they started hiding it because it seemed to be quite a quite the
28:00
story back in the eighteen hundreds. Yeah. Well, you have to kind
28:04
of go back to the whole founding of the Smithsonian Institution, and that goes
28:08
back to the to the mid eighteen hundreds and James Smithson or John James Smithson
28:17
was one of the founders of the Smithsonian. He was from England and he
28:21
basically gave our government money to found the Smithsonian, which I found was interesting
28:26
if he had no errors. He's like, hey, I would love to
28:30
donate this money to have just the best museum ever constructed. And so our
28:37
government ended up with that. And then early on in the development of the
28:41
Smithsonian I believe his name was John Wesley Powell. He was a prominent individual
28:49
within the Smithsonian, and he did what's called the Powell Doctrine, which basically
28:56
said, if there's any ancient remains that are found here in America, if
29:00
there are any artifacts here that they have to be of Native American origin.
29:07
They cannot come they cannot come from any other advanced civilization anywhere outside of America.
29:14
It has to be that the Native people's. And so from that time,
29:18
literally the founding of the Smithsonian Institution, that's what was taught. So
29:22
anything that didn't fit in with that, again, it goes back to the
29:26
knowledge filtration that if it doesn't fit in our box, then simply it can't
29:32
be true. It's it's a hoaxe, a hoax, it's fake. Will
29:36
just sweep it under the rug because it doesn't fit with our dogma. Oh
29:40
yeah, well, I mean that's what we've all been taught in school,
29:42
especially if we had a public school education. Like myself. It's all Native
29:48
American. You know, everything's Native American and nothing nothing predates Native Americans pretty
29:52
much. I mean, we have Mayan ruins here in Georgia and they say,
29:57
and I say, they say, my okay, And there is kind
30:02
of hidden, it's kind of hard to find. I know where these things
30:04
are. I know where it is. It's like a pyramid, okay,
30:08
which also takes us to like something I'm going to be doing a show on
30:11
this week on Wednesday, potentially ancient Egypt being in North America here in the
30:18
Americas, and I've actually talked about the Egyptian settlements in the Grand Canyon and
30:25
Ohio all over the place. There's artifacts found. Our history is not what
30:30
we've been told. Absolutely, yeah, I agree. In fact, Barry
30:36
Fell, he was a great researcher back in the seventies and eighties. He
30:40
wrote some wonderful books. One of them is America BC. Another one this
30:45
one here, this is a Bronze Age America and he would he would go
30:49
around to all these different sites here at North America. He was an expert
30:52
in ancient languages and symbols, and he found like Ogum writing, ancient Keltic
31:00
writing here, he felt, he found Egyptian hieroglyphics, he found Phoenician writings,
31:07
he found some in the eastern part of the United States, some stone
31:11
structures, some Dolmans, lots of evidence that there were pre Columbian travelers here
31:18
in North America thousands of years before Columbus set foot over here. And he
31:26
was a wonderful researcher. And another more recent researcher. I think that has
31:32
really kind of taken up his reigns as Scott Walter on the History Channel,
31:36
he has America Unearthed. I really like a lot of his research because he
31:41
goes he's a geologist, and he goes and investigates a lot of these ancient
31:45
mysterious sites, just like Barry Fell was doing back in the seventies and eighties.
31:52
Oh wow, Yeah. I love it that our television shows are getting
31:56
a little more open minded with all this stuff and and kind of letting us
32:00
in because letting us in on the secrets kind of. Not not that I
32:05
think we're getting full disclosure yet, but I think that we are the disclosure
32:09
just because of looking into this stuff and questioning the narratives and questioning what we're
32:14
taught. So important, It is so so important because if we don't,
32:19
if we don't really be advocates for our ancient past, our ancient history,
32:24
certainly the powers that beer are just going to keep doing what they've always done.
32:30
And that again, it's trying to control the narrative. But I look
32:32
at it as kind of like a dam, right, and it's this knowledge
32:37
suppression, and they're holding it back with a dam, and then all of
32:39
a suddenly more information comes out. There's a crack, and another crack and
32:44
more information comes out, and then there's a leak, and pretty soon that
32:47
dam is gonna With enough leaks, it's they're not going to be able to
32:51
hold it back. And the more research we do, the more the more
32:54
sharing like this we do, I think it creates more more cracks and that
32:59
knowledge suppression down and eventually it will break. And it's important for humanity to
33:05
know about our true history. Are our true past? Oh yeah? And
33:10
I want to know more about these giants. So I actually have a graph
33:15
that I was going to show the audience, and it's the different sizes of
33:19
the ledge. This is a ledge, but I believe that a lot of
33:22
these bones have been found and just say she could show a size reference compared
33:25
to us little humans. Okay, I don't know if there's been a thirty
33:30
six foot giant found, honestly, but I don't know. What say you,
33:36
Floyd, Well, most of the research that I that I did and
33:39
the articles that I uncovered, most of the sizes ranged from anywhere from in
33:45
the upper seven feet range to ten feet range. I did find a couple
33:53
of accounts where there was a giant that was close to the second tall giant
34:00
on your graph there, and that particular giant was found and supposedly dressed in
34:08
like an ancient type of armor, like the type of armor found in ancient
34:13
biblical Nineveh. And it had a it had a sword, a giant sword,
34:17
and and a helmet, and and interesting enough, it had a it
34:22
had a double row of teeth, I remember in the article. And then
34:24
it said the article, Yeah, it's going to be put on display and
34:29
the Smithsonian is gonna you know, send some some people out to look at
34:32
it and we'll do more research on it. And then of course it just
34:36
it just disappeared. Of course it did. It's the Smithsonian. That's what
34:40
they're good for, is preserve preserving history. And it's never seen it ever
34:45
again. Now, if you had to estimate how many giant skeletons have been
34:52
found just in North America, do you have a number or can you put
34:54
a number on it? Well, just in the the newspaper articles alone,
35:00
I mean we're getting close to like fifteen sixtyteen hundred that's in the newspaper accounts.
35:05
So just think of how many discoveries were probably made that never made the
35:08
newspapers. So we're talking the in the thousands. Wow, oh my gosh,
35:15
I mean, and they're all over the world. Now this is like
35:17
North America. I mean there had I feel like we're the little people.
35:22
And I know that we were going to talk about little people tonight too,
35:25
because that's one of your fortes. You loved the Native American little people.
35:30
They say legends and lore, but I believe that they exist, well they
35:36
exist, and in fact, you know, even like with the giants,
35:39
they're finding evidence in the archaeological record recently that could support the concept of giants.
35:47
Have you heard about the Denisovan discovery made in Siberia in twenty ten,
35:53
No, tell me about it, Yeah, twenty ten. In this cave
35:57
in Siberia, this archaeologists found a tooth, a giant tooth that was a
36:04
couple times bigger than a normal sized tooth, and found a knuckle bone and
36:08
some artifacts. There was a like a stone bracelet that had little eight millimeter
36:15
holes drilled in the bracelet, probably that it once held like some thread that
36:19
was through there, with some decorations, which was interesting because they were dated
36:22
back about forty thousand years So whoever this culture was, they were pretty advanced
36:29
for their time to be able to make such small drill holes, you know,
36:34
eight millimeter, you know, forty thousand years ago is pretty incredible.
36:37
And they did the DNA testing, the DNA sequencing on the tooth and the
36:40
knuckle bone and determined that it's a whole other species of us, like you
36:46
know, we know our close relatives or they tell us, is the Neanderthal,
36:52
and we know that the majority of us will has Neanderthal DNA, so
36:58
our ancient ancestors were in breeding with the Neanderthal and now they've found the Denisovans,
37:04
and now they're finding elements of their DNA in different populations. And there
37:12
was a skull found in China back in the nineteen thirties and a Chinese worker
37:17
found it and he was under forced labor by the Japanese forces. So he
37:22
uncovered this skull, this giant skull, and he hid it. He put
37:27
it in a well. And this man lived to a very ripe old age,
37:30
and on his deathbed he told his kids, you know, I found
37:34
this skull. Here's where you can go retrieve it. So this has been
37:37
fairly recent. The kids went and they found the skull and they retrieved it
37:42
and they gave it to a university. It's called Homo longi, which means
37:46
dragon's skull, and it's a massive skull and believed to be this new branch,
37:52
a new relative to us, called the Denisovans. In fact, I
37:55
have a replica of that skull right here, because I know you like skull.
38:00
This is this is this is Homo longi right here. This is a
38:04
replica of the skull that was found in China, and it's it's very very
38:08
large, you know, football shaped, and you can see the very pronounced
38:13
brow ridge, and you can just look at the the huge eye sockets.
38:16
Now you could just imagine, you know, if they had a massive jawbone,
38:21
just how big this would be. So this is a this is a
38:24
Denisovan skull, and this is a recent, you know, recent discovery.
38:29
So they're they're finding this in the archaeological record, and some researchers are saying
38:35
that the average height of one of these Denis Evans could very well be in
38:38
the you know, seven eight foot range, like average you know, average
38:44
heights seven and a half feet tall. Oh my gosh, that's that's big.
38:49
And that's a that's a beautiful skull. I mean, the wherewithal for
38:52
that man to go hide that in a will? Thank Bob, the Smithsonian
38:55
didn't get it, that's right, Thank thank goodness, he's the one that
38:59
found it. You know. On this subject, it's really interesting because I
39:01
include a couple of articles in my book about giant skeleton discoveries where the Smithsonian
39:07
actually goes and tries to procure these skeletons. There was I have one article
39:14
in there it says man refuses to give giant skeletons to Smithsonian. That's on
39:19
the title. I think this was in Arizona. This this guy on his
39:23
ranch uncovered these bones and this massive skull. And in the article it said
39:28
the Smithsonian dispatched a couple of agents to go look at this thing. They
39:32
took photos of it, took measurements of it, and in the article they
39:37
said it was it was so large, it was beyond human comprehension at the
39:42
size of it. And they wanted to buy it from the guy. And
39:44
the guy said, Nope, I'm not doing it. I'm not I'm not
39:46
going to sell it to you. And so they yeah, okay. So
39:52
I did an interview here at Space Out Radio. I set in for Dave
39:54
Scott on a week night and and I got to I had the privilege of
39:59
interviewing Evan and Steven Strong out of Australia. You might be familiar with them.
40:04
They have several relics. One actually is a skull of of the moon
40:08
eyed people. They say, in rocks that have alien technology in them,
40:14
that are ancient, I mean like a million years old or so and so,
40:17
and it changes the entire history of humanity. Okay, because they say
40:24
that it's proof that humanity or humans were seated there in Australia by aliens,
40:30
by the Palladians. They say, yeah, very interesting, Yeah, very
40:35
interesting. You mentioned the moon eyed people and the Native American people here,
40:38
I believe in like the North Carolina area and the Carolinas talk about the moon
40:44
eyed people and they say they were a race of little people and they were
40:47
very pale and they had very very large, bluish colored eyes. In fact,
40:54
this flight hurt their eyes, so they weren't active during the daytime.
40:58
They lived in the underground and they would come out, you know, at
41:01
night time. Because yes, there's an artifact right there. A farmer was
41:07
plowing his field and I believe the plow hit that and he uncovered it,
41:13
put it on a sled and then drug it back to back to his place.
41:16
But yeah, those are depictions of the of the moon eyed people.
41:22
Wow, that's that's really cool. Uh that may pump it? Okay,
41:29
super cool. And that made me think about something I just saw. Someone
41:32
had put a comment in the chat giants are not bigfoot, right, And
41:37
that's interesting because before we went live tonight, I'd mentioned to you that the
41:42
two get crossed pretty often. There's almost like a blurred line sometimes between stories
41:46
of giants and stories of bigfoot historically, and and I have a couple of
41:52
examples of that. One of them is Judicula Sukerloo from up in North Carolina.
42:00
I have been to Judicola Rock, Okay, several times, at least
42:04
two or three times, and learned the story of Sukulu up there, who
42:07
was supposed to be some people say a big foot, some people say a
42:12
giant. But he was a fierce warrior covered in hair. He was a
42:15
hairy hairy man, Harry sasquatch man who actually ended up taking a girlfriend,
42:22
a human girlfriend, and he but he would fight and even take out some
42:30
of the Cherokee warriors, the hunters that would come out there to go hunting,
42:35
if they got on that land around where Judicola Rock is today, he
42:37
would take him out. And I don't mean take him out on a date,
42:40
I mean take them right, you know. But he was he was
42:44
huge, he was feared. Okay. But some people say that he was
42:46
a big foot. Others say he was a giant human Okay. So there's
42:50
that. There's also the story of the Okeano giant attack of eighteen twenty nine
42:54
here in Georgia, and some people claim that those were that whatever was in
43:00
that swamp was a giant. Others say big most people say bigfoots. I
43:04
say it was giants, because there's a known the people that lived down there
43:07
the claim they've heard stories of giants living there since the beginning of time.
43:14
Mmm. Interesting, Yeah, that's very and you know, it's it's interesting
43:19
because I think, you know, talking about like worldwide uh you know,
43:23
talk about giants legends. And I go all the way back to the ancient
43:28
Samerian Babylonian history about the king Gilgamesh, King Gilgamesh, and he was a
43:36
king, and he was a giant, and and he had a friend called
43:39
Inca Do and he was the way he's described is almost like a like a
43:45
sasquash similar, but he was also like a powerful giant. Yeah. I
43:52
mean, these stories go way back in art and in books and literature.
43:57
There's stories of wild men, there are stories of giants. I mean,
44:00
my goodness, we grew up with stories about the jolly green Well, the
44:02
jolly green giant I think was that was on some vegetable cans. It was
44:07
I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but Jack and the Beanstalk
44:10
and there was a giant no stories, right, yeah, well, like
44:15
Jack and the Beanstalk for example, what was that fi fi fo fum,
44:17
I smell the blood of an Englishman, you know, something like that,
44:21
and it referenced like cannibalism, you know, like something like I'm gonna I'm
44:25
gonna grind his bones to make my bread. So even in some of these
44:29
old old stories about giants, there are many references to to cannibalism. And
44:36
in fact, with the Nephela mentioned in the in the Bible, it goes
44:39
back in like the apocryphal text like we were we were talking a little bit
44:44
about before the show, it really goes into detail about these nephelam that these
44:49
giants, they were blood drinkers, they were cannibals, they were fighting amongst
44:53
themselves, they were killing off the humans. There's even references about h almost
45:00
like they were doing genetic manipulation. They were they were messing with tampering with
45:09
the the plant and animal life. They were corrupting that. And to me,
45:14
I was like, wow, they're corrupting plant and animal life. That
45:17
almost sounds like DNA manipulation to me. It does Oh, this is I
45:24
have a little connection here, okay, because we're talking about ancient giants.
45:30
There are stories of modern day giants, and we do get videos be gone
45:36
dare I say TikTok in you know social media site. So today there are
45:39
videos of alleged giants walking on the side of mountains, and people claim that
45:46
some people who took those videos go missing or they get followed by government vehicles,
45:52
and it's almost like there's a there's an active cover up going on of
45:57
these giants. Also, we have the story of the Giant of kandle Ha
46:00
in Afghanistan, and I did a show on that. I actually did a
46:04
remote viewing of that a blind target, and I was coming up with data
46:07
that suggested that there was some sort of sample being taken from this giant for
46:14
like cloning purposes and super soldier purposes and stuff. So that's really interesting that
46:19
you say that, because in my book I reference an account This was back
46:23
I think in the early two thousands, the BBC put out a couple articles
46:29
on the alleged discovery of King Gilgamesh's tomb, and in the articles that it
46:36
really gave a lot of detail. They said, this is just like right
46:37
out of the Epic of Gilgamesh. These are ruins, these are amazing findings.
46:44
This looks like the description of the king, the tomb of King Gilgamesh.
46:49
And there was only like one or two articles written and then it just
46:52
dropped off like it was no more, like nothing was said about it,
46:57
no follow ups, And it kind of reminded me of the many, you
47:00
know, articles we're talking about with giants, you know, like in the
47:04
eighteen hundreds and early nineteen hundreds, of you know, being referenced and then
47:07
you don't hear anything more, you know, nothing. And I got the
47:12
feeling on that discovery that well, what if they did, you know,
47:15
what if they did find that the tomb of King Gilgamesh, and what if
47:19
he was a giant, and and what if they could extract DNA? You
47:24
know, our military would definitely be interested because they're you know, they've they've
47:28
been involved in you know, finding ways to you know, make their sol
47:34
the soldiers, you know, more more lethal, you know, improve on
47:37
all forms of weapons systems. So sure, why if they found some kind
47:42
of DNA like that, why wouldn't they try to manipulate that and use that.
47:47
Everything is Weaponizeday, any way they can find to weaponize anything. They
47:53
Our government has weaponized dolphins, Okay, so why not. And I'm a
48:00
person, I'm a researcher, you know, why would they not take a
48:02
dog man or a werewolf in weaponiz that and use that in war, I
48:07
mean, or even gets their own people unfortunately, stuff like that. So
48:13
it's all a big possibility. And I think that that Gilgamesh, I think
48:16
that sounds like a great remote viewing target. Okay, we're gonna we're going
48:22
to find out what's going on with that one day. But yeah, it's
48:24
just something to look out for because this is a hot topic right now.
48:28
A lot of people are talking about giants, right it's time to have that
48:32
discussion. I guess, yes, yes, And you know, there's so
48:37
many different takes on it. And one interesting take that I'm fascinated with is,
48:43
of course the biblical account of the giants and the apocryphal accounts of the
48:46
giants, and you know how it tells the story that there was a group
48:50
of watchers basically angels that came to the earth, and it even mentions there
48:55
was two hundred of them, even gives names of the leaders of these groups.
49:00
One of his name was Azazel and Shamyaza, those are two of the
49:06
leaders. And they found the women of the earth fair, and they made
49:08
a pact to go, as a Bible said, go into the women and
49:14
basically have sex, and they bore them these children, which are called the
49:19
Nephilum, and nephylum is a proto Hebrew word meaning to fall fallen ones,
49:24
and ne fall is a Hebrew word where we get our word fall from it's
49:30
nefall, and we get the word fall from that word. And so these
49:34
were fallen angels that intermix their DNA with the human women of the earth,
49:38
which produced these giants. And the giants were violent, they were cannibalistic.
49:44
As I mentioned earlier, they were destroying the earth, and then God wanted
49:47
to put a stop to it before everything was destroyed. And in the Book
49:52
of Enoch it says that's why the great flood, the deluge was brought upon
49:55
the earth to kill the giants, but it didn't kill them. And that's
50:00
why I think in Genesis six account it says there were giants in the earth
50:06
in those days and thereafter and thereafter means too that there was a remnant of
50:13
the giants that survived the Great Deluge, and we see that in the Bible
50:16
with references of Goliath. He was of the giant, he was of the
50:21
refaem. He was of that bloodline, but the blood line had thinned down,
50:25
so even as big as he was, you know, nine feet tall,
50:29
he was one of the smaller ones because the bloodline had been diluted.
50:32
Also, you have King og of Bashan of the Bible that was a huge
50:37
giant that had a thirteen foot long bed by six feet wide, framed an
50:43
iron to support his frame, and Moses and his armies killed ogof Oh my
50:50
gosh, lots of historical giants we have going on here. Yes, Okay,
50:57
I've been talking a lot about the end Times, paying the End Times
51:00
and the Book of Revelation. We're having weird stuff pop up right now,
51:06
liket. Not just giants, but aliens coming out of portals and malls allegedly.
51:12
Okay, stuff like that UFOs, A lot of anomalous stuff, a
51:15
lot of cryptid sightings all over the place. Do you think the giants have
51:20
some sort of part? And I'm not saying that that this is really the
51:23
end Times, but some people are relating the emergence of giants with the end
51:30
times right now, I believe there's a connection. Yeah. In the Book
51:34
of Enoch, it actually actually says that the watchers that came down and inner
51:38
bred with the women, they were punished and bound in chains to be released
51:45
at the end times. And basically that the Nephelium that were killed on the
51:50
earth their spirits since they were born of the earth, they were this inner
51:54
mixing of the seed between the Earth and and the celestial realm, that they
51:59
are are bound to the Earth. So their spirits are bound to the Earth.
52:04
Although their physical bodies were destroyed, their their their spirits still haunt the
52:09
earth in the form of demons. Oh, oh my gosh. Well that's
52:17
that's terrifying, just slightly. A lot of a lot of talk of like
52:22
the monics as well lately when you talk about the Nephileine and things. I
52:28
mean a lot of these cryptids that we have a lot of the Cryptis signings,
52:30
they're they're giants, And that's where people are asking about the bigfoots being
52:35
confused with giants and giants bigfoots in the Nephileine. It gets confusing for a
52:40
lot of people. Sometimes not knowing because some people say the that Bigfoots are
52:46
the nephilem okay, because I don't know if I if I go along with
52:51
that, or I don't know a tremendous amount about about the whole fast squatch
52:54
Bigfoot, but it just seems they are yeah, yeah, nephelm are just
53:01
very very evil. My my concern in my belief is that the spirits of
53:07
the nepheline, they are real, and they are here, and that what's
53:13
going to happen in the end times is those spirits are going to there's vessels
53:19
being created, physical vessels for those spirits to to inhabit, and and some
53:23
people use the term ghost in the machine, and then we get onto the
53:28
whole subject of artificial intelligence and that type of thing. I don't know if
53:31
you saw the video recently of a father who put out a video that said
53:36
his son was I don't know, having on chat GPT and that and and
53:40
the AI claimed it was a nephelum and was having a dialogue with his son
53:45
and basically said it was one of the spirits of the fallen angels before the
53:50
flood. But but it was a nice one and it was okay to communicate
53:53
with me and I'll give I'll tell you anything you want to know. And
53:58
his son had this ongoing dialogue with this ai that claimed to be a naphallon
54:05
Oh my gosh. One more reason than to keep the kids off the internet.
54:07
Okay, some more reason. Yeah, we are in wild times.
54:12
Regardless of what's going on right now, we are in wild times. I'm
54:15
here for the war, I'm here for the ride. Okay, I'm loving
54:19
this. I'm loving that we're seeing giants all over the place, if they're
54:22
awakening, if they're coming out, they're peeking out of doors on the side
54:24
of a mountain. You know, what did you think about that? I
54:29
know we have a couple of minutes left. What were you familiar with that
54:31
story where the guy claimed that there was a giant peeking out of a door
54:35
on the side of a mountain and I think it was Oregon. Yeah,
54:37
you know, I'm not familiar with that story. However, the Anasazi tribe,
54:45
they have in their oral history that when they're their their medicine men got
54:50
into the practice of witchcraft. They opened up portals, and out of the
54:54
portals came giants, and the giants started destroying everything. Cannibalizing those people,
55:01
and so the Anasazi tribe had to rapidly leave the areas where they inhabited,
55:07
basically fleeing for their lives. Ooh, okay, well that sounds similar to
55:13
what the storyline was with those aliens in the Miami Mall this past week about
55:17
a week ago. Interesting stuff there. I don't know, it's all wild.
55:22
I love it, Floyd. This has been fantastic. I've really enjoyed
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the show tonight. Yeah, please can hang out with me again to talk
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about Okay, Curtly, thank you. Yeah, I'd love to come back
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on again, Okay. To tell everybody about your book and where they can
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find you. Yes, my book is The Red Haired Giants of Lovelock Cave
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and Other Ancient Mysteries. You can get my book at BookBaby dot com.
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It's also on Amazon as well. However, I'm a self published author and
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book baby is real supportive of self published authors, So if you if you
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do want to purchase my book, I would encourage you definitely get it at
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book baby if you can. Also, again, it is on Amazon as
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well. I have a website at the Ancient Giants dot Com. You can
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find more information about my book. I have a chapter breakdown and some more
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background on myself. Oh yeah, it's a great website. Oh my gosh,
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I got lost on your website going through all your stories about hobbits.
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I mean, I know we talked about the little people today, but you
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guys go check it out and go go purchase the book. The Red Hair
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Giants of Love, Blote Cave and Other Ancient Mysteries. Lloyd, thank you
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so much. This has been so much a pleasure. Thank you so much,
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and thanks again to your audience. It just like it seems like our
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conversation just flew by, Like it seems like we've been talking like fifteen minutes.
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I told you it would, right, it always is, my so
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fast. All right, well we're going to bring you back on soon.
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You have a book, and thank you so much for all this amazing Okay,
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thank you very much, awesome, thank you. All righty Hey,
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y'all, man, wasn't that so amazing? Okay, don't forget that.
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Right after this show, you guys go over to After Hours. They got
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a fantastic show set up for us. Come see me this week, y'all
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over on my channel, The Cryptid Huntress over on YouTube. Okay, I'll
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be back next Sunday night with another fantastic guest. You guys. I want
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to thank all my moderators tonight, y'all rock, Oh my gosh, all
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rock. And I want to thank everybody for being in the chat tonight and
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everybody that's watching. All right, y'all, I hope you enjoyed that as
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much as I did. I hope you learned something. Stay safe out there.
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Don't go to malls if you don't want to go get accosted by aliens.
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I'm just kidding. You'll have a great night. I'll see you next
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time. By you time.