Latest / NO FILTER / Joe Rogan Experience _2307 - Tim Dillon(M4A_128K)
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Check it out. But Joe Wigan Experience Train My Day,
- 0:06Speaker 1: Joe Rogan podcast by Night all Day. Hey Tim Dillon,
- 0:14Speaker 1: how are you?
- 0:15Speaker 2: I'm much better now that the ladies are back from space.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Thank you for having What were they there? Ten minutes?
- 0:20Speaker 2: Well, it was very profound. I don't know if you've
- 0:22Speaker 2: seen Katy Perry talk about it, but she's basically guru.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Now what were her findings? That's my question.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Well, which is super important.
- 0:31Speaker 1: It shows you how quick the flight was. The dead daisy.
- 0:34Speaker 2: That's like snipped from its life source was still still
- 0:38Speaker 2: alive or still vibrant. Yeah, and it's so yeah a daisy, Wow,
- 0:44Speaker 2: look at her nails?
- 0:45Speaker 1: So pretty. Now. So they go up there and they
- 0:48Speaker 1: float for like ten minutes at least, and then they
- 0:52Speaker 1: come down. Let's not minimize this, no, let's uh, it's
- 0:54Speaker 1: a big deal.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Let's celebrate female astronauts and are united because men astronauts
- 1:01Speaker 2: they have to go to school, they have to learn
- 1:03Speaker 2: how to be a pilot first, then they have to
- 1:06Speaker 2: join the Air Force or the Navy, and then they
- 1:09Speaker 2: get appointed by NASA and then they go to space,
- 1:14Speaker 2: you know.
- 1:15Speaker 1: And there has been that's the other thing. There has
- 1:17Speaker 1: been female astronauts. Let's let's not minimism. Let's not minimize this. Yeah,
- 1:23Speaker 1: they didn't sure it was a bit stuck on a
- 1:25Speaker 1: space station for a few months. That's terribly more impressive.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Let's not minimize this.
- 1:30Speaker 2: No, the problem with that story is that she was
- 1:34Speaker 2: rescued by a very awful person who wants to expose
- 1:38Speaker 2: flawed fraud and rate waste.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Yes, yes, oh interesting, Oh, where's that in the news.
- 1:45Speaker 2: I didn't know those people were stuck the Boeing jet,
- 1:47Speaker 2: the Skylight, whatever the fun is. The Boeing spaceship wasn't working.
- 1:50Speaker 2: They couldn't fix it.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Interesting. I didn't even know that. Yeah.
- 1:54Speaker 2: And by the way, Elon could have rescued them during
- 1:57Speaker 2: the Biden administration. They didn't want to because of open
- 2:00Speaker 2: support for Trump, So they left those people up there. Yes,
- 2:04Speaker 2: he's talked about it on my podcast.
- 2:06Speaker 1: They left those people up there, and they're just chilling. No,
- 2:10Speaker 1: they're dying, right. It's like slow radiation poisoning.
- 2:13Speaker 2: It's like getting ten X rays a day, and they're
- 2:16Speaker 2: just slowly getting sapped of your life force out there
- 2:20Speaker 2: and no gravity. Your bones are weakening. Did you see
- 2:22Speaker 2: that lady's face when she came.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Back, she didn't look great.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Bro her something that happened like her chin had grown
- 2:29Speaker 2: was extended, and her haired alterned gray.
- 2:31Speaker 1: She looked like she was sick. She was sick.
- 2:34Speaker 2: You're dying up there, man, that's crazy. I had a commander,
- 2:38Speaker 2: Chris Hatfield on and he was at one point in
- 2:40Speaker 2: time the longest person that had been in space from
- 2:45Speaker 2: wasn't he It's like he was there for like six months,
- 2:48Speaker 2: and he was saying it was unbelievable, like how difficult
- 2:51Speaker 2: it was to recover once you get back to Earth.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Couldn't walk, It was just like a total vertigo. Like
- 2:57Speaker 2: his whole body was like so not used to gravity.
- 2:59Speaker 2: All of his bones were weak, all these muscles were weak.
- 3:02Speaker 1: But these bitches seem fine.
- 3:04Speaker 2: These ladies, well, for now, it's some minimis to sacrifice.
- 3:08Speaker 2: They yeah, the fact the world they're different, they're profoundly different.
- 3:14Speaker 1: To show people what's inspiring.
- 3:17Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
- 3:18Speaker 1: It's inspiring. If if if a guy who's worth what
- 3:22Speaker 1: a trillion dollars several billion, one hundred.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Million, just imagine the conspiracies if they didn't make it.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Pete, there's already people saying that they faked it,
- 3:32Speaker 1: which I think is silly.
- 3:33Speaker 2: Well, I love those people, but that's great. Those are
- 3:35Speaker 2: people that think space is fake.
- 3:36Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, but they're they're ready people going, well,
- 3:40Speaker 1: they faked it, And I'm like, I hope they fake
- 3:42Speaker 1: something better than that. I hope if they're faking stuff,
- 3:47Speaker 1: and they probably are faking some stuff, God, I hope
- 3:50Speaker 1: they're faking stuff that's better than that. I think this
- 3:52Speaker 1: is the confusion.
- 3:53Speaker 2: I think the confusion is that they essentially got to
- 3:57Speaker 2: the threshold of space. They did not get like way
- 4:01Speaker 2: out there where re entry is very traumatic and it
- 4:06Speaker 2: has like if you see like those heat shields that
- 4:10Speaker 2: they put all over those things, and if they break
- 4:12Speaker 2: off on the re entry, everybody dies. That's because you're
- 4:15Speaker 2: way out there and the amount of heat that gets
- 4:18Speaker 2: generated as you're re entering the atmosphere. I think they're
- 4:21Speaker 2: essentially like on the border of the atmosphere. Let's see
- 4:23Speaker 2: how high did they go up there?
- 4:28Speaker 1: So the Space Shuttle, they went a little higher than
- 4:30Speaker 1: that that Rocket Man documentary that guy shot himself of
- 4:33Speaker 1: a rocket. They went like a few feet higher than
- 4:36Speaker 1: that guy rip that guy drove by his Grave on
- 4:39Speaker 1: the way to Vegas when LA burned down. Are they
- 4:41Speaker 1: even like technically actually in space?
- 4:44Speaker 3: I think that's where the like it floats.
- 4:47Speaker 1: That's the line is I might go there.
- 4:48Speaker 2: I might do that.
- 4:49Speaker 1: You wouldn't go to space space, but I might do
- 4:51Speaker 1: the eighty eighty.
- 4:52Speaker 2: Miles do that. So three hundred and fifty miles is
- 4:56Speaker 2: the highest anyone has ever gone in the Apollo Astronauts
- 5:01Speaker 2: to sixty Okay, sixty two miles ain't shit, dude, I
- 5:05Speaker 2: drive that in an hour, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
- 5:08Speaker 2: And it's by the way, I agree with you. It's
- 5:11Speaker 2: not that var that's not even here to San Antonio.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Sixty two miles ain't shit, but it is kind of
- 5:19Speaker 2: technically space. Should they get up there and they look
- 5:21Speaker 2: at the Earth. Yeah, that's why, like everybody's calling bullshit
- 5:24Speaker 2: on the outside of the capsule that it wasn't like
- 5:28Speaker 2: completely on fire they destroyed just because they didn't go
- 5:30Speaker 2: that high. They didn't go that high, that's all it is, right,
- 5:32Speaker 2: But they did go to space.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Technical they went to space and they lost gravity.
- 5:37Speaker 2: The funniest thing is they come back and you need
- 5:39Speaker 2: a parachute to land, right like at all the technology
- 5:43Speaker 2: Elon has.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Elon is catching rockets. What could robot arms? What could
- 5:48Speaker 1: go wrong in something like that?
- 5:50Speaker 2: Oh, it could explode on the way up for auh. Yeah,
- 5:54Speaker 2: the way up is not ensured that those things are
- 5:56Speaker 2: definitely going to hold it together.
- 5:57Speaker 1: So that's the biggest risk.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Yeah, you have these cannons filled with rocket fuel that
- 6:03Speaker 2: are burning at like twice the what is the temperature
- 6:06Speaker 2: of rocket fuel when it's hot?
- 6:08Speaker 1: Is it? Like?
- 6:10Speaker 2: Is it is it's like close to the surface of
- 6:12Speaker 2: the sun or some crazy shit like what is the
- 6:15Speaker 2: what's the actual temperature? So everything has to be contained
- 6:19Speaker 2: while you have insane amounts of fuel burning every second,
- 6:24Speaker 2: huge plumes of flame, enormous thrust to escape Earth's atmosphere.
- 6:29Speaker 2: You're just hoping all those O rings and all these
- 6:32Speaker 2: fucking all the ship that blew up with a Challenge,
- 6:34Speaker 2: it could have blown up. I mean, Musk has openly
- 6:39Speaker 2: said some of these are going to blow up when
- 6:42Speaker 2: he's testing them. When he when they would blow up,
- 6:44Speaker 2: you like, oh, Elon failed again, Like no, we want
- 6:47Speaker 2: it to fail because we want to find out what
- 6:49Speaker 2: is the threshold? What there's only.
- 6:51Speaker 1: One wonderful all of them where they You think they
- 6:53Speaker 1: were like prepared to die. No, Katie bar was prepared
- 6:58Speaker 1: in her eyes, something like a soldier. Something's off with her.
- 7:02Speaker 1: It's good.
- 7:04Speaker 4: What about the hatch though, Wasn't that kind of sketch?
- 7:06Speaker 1: She has a mohammed ada to her.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Well, I think the problem is that the hatch is
- 7:13Speaker 2: not a real hatch like a spaceship, because it's not
- 7:16Speaker 2: really going to space. There's no captain, there's no pilot, right,
- 7:19Speaker 2: there's nobody going back the mundo, all the above, So
- 7:23Speaker 2: it's most hatches in that regard. They open outwardly so
- 7:28Speaker 2: that the pressure of space travel, like when you're shooting
- 7:31Speaker 2: that fucking rocket up insane amounts of gravity doesn't make
- 7:35Speaker 2: the door hinges fail and it collapses in on itself
- 7:38Speaker 2: and everybody dies right right. So they have to open
- 7:41Speaker 2: outward right right, so the pressure would keep them shut.
- 7:44Speaker 2: So generally like there's like a seal. And it's really
- 7:48Speaker 2: kind of crazy. Like I have a friend of mine,
- 7:50Speaker 2: very wealthy businessman, who brings me over his house the
- 7:53Speaker 2: other day. Is is I want to show you something?
- 7:55Speaker 2: And he shows me this diagram. He said, this is
- 7:58Speaker 2: from the nineteen fifties and this is the blueprint for
- 8:03Speaker 2: the recreation UFO that they made when they when they
- 8:07Speaker 2: tried to back engineer the one that they found at.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Roswell and they had it. This was a diagram, Yeah.
- 8:14Speaker 2: And it had a crank handle like a submarine door.
- 8:18Speaker 1: You know, and they were trying to replicate a craft
- 8:21Speaker 1: that had landed crashed.
- 8:22Speaker 2: Yeah, they what he thinks they did. Wow, he doesn't
- 8:26Speaker 2: think it's a try. He said, this is the blueprint
- 8:28Speaker 2: because it had the actual, by the way, the exact
- 8:32Speaker 2: generator in the center of it that Bob Lazzar described
- 8:35Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty nine when he worked at ARES four.
- 8:39Speaker 1: What layer of the government do you think is working
- 8:42Speaker 1: on projects like that? Like, is it all the DARPA people.
- 8:45Speaker 2: I think it's people that are completely disconnected from congressman, senators, Right,
- 8:51Speaker 2: it's all a.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Deep state because it's like they have to be like
- 8:54Speaker 1: they probably belong to an agency without a name.
- 8:57Speaker 2: Well, there's probably a bunch of those. And when it
- 8:59Speaker 2: comes to this kind of stuff, like we already know
- 9:02Speaker 2: now because of DOGE that there was money that was
- 9:05Speaker 2: going with no receipts, billions and billions of dollars that
- 9:09Speaker 2: was just flying out with no receipts, They have no
- 9:12Speaker 2: idea where it went. And Elon openly said if this
- 9:15Speaker 2: was he goes, if this was a public company, it
- 9:19Speaker 2: would be delisted and the people who ran it would
- 9:23Speaker 2: go to prison. But because it's the government, you're.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Like, oh, I know what we did.
- 9:27Speaker 2: We just see they.
- 9:29Speaker 1: No think that could be going to it? You think
- 9:32Speaker 1: they'll bring charges against anyone for fraud.
- 9:35Speaker 2: That's the worry about disclosure, because that's what's holding it.
- 9:39Speaker 1: I think people needs to concrete stuff.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Yeah you want to see concrete. Let's hear Katie Perry
- 9:47Speaker 2: talk about it, right space. I said to you a
- 9:52Speaker 2: few this morning, I said, let's discuss I saw.
- 9:55Speaker 1: Her, I sorry, chatted about it on my shay. I
- 9:57Speaker 1: saw her say something about we weren't taking space, we're
- 10:01Speaker 1: making space. That's the one I want to see, which
- 10:03Speaker 1: I thought was an interesting scientific.
- 10:06Speaker 2: No, no, no, I got another one. I got some
- 10:08Speaker 2: better ones.
- 10:10Speaker 1: What is funny is immediately on pretty good. It is
- 10:13Speaker 1: funny to do something like this and then everyone hates you,
- 10:16Speaker 1: like everyone hates it.
- 10:17Speaker 2: Shouldn't hate or oh no, that's not it. Jamiel said
- 10:20Speaker 2: it to you. I have so many of them. I
- 10:23Speaker 2: don't think that one has the making space. Try this one.
- 10:30Speaker 2: It's so fun with people. Why is it so fun
- 10:32Speaker 2: when people get pretentious because you're I guess because you're
- 10:35Speaker 2: terrified that you would ever do it well.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Yet I also think it's fun to see somebody who
- 10:38Speaker 1: has no self awareness. They're always the most fun. I
- 10:42Speaker 1: will never be the same.
- 10:43Speaker 5: I mean when you get up there and you see
- 10:46Speaker 5: the Earth and it's so beautiful, and it just fills
- 10:49Speaker 5: the screen, and it's not just your window, it's like
- 10:53Speaker 5: everybody's window, and there's no boundaries.
- 10:55Speaker 1: There's no border, there's just earth, and it just fills
- 10:59Speaker 1: the screen.
- 11:00Speaker 5: And you get up there and you see the earth
- 11:03Speaker 5: and it's so beautiful and it just fills the screen.
- 11:06Speaker 1: Is it what you expected?
- 11:10Speaker 2: No?
- 11:11Speaker 1: No better.
- 11:15Speaker 6: I don't think you can describe it, because you know
- 11:18Speaker 6: what I was saying. It was like quiet, but then
- 11:22Speaker 6: it's also really alive and you look at it and
- 11:25Speaker 6: you're like.
- 11:27Speaker 1: We're all in this together.
- 11:30Speaker 5: Was prior to going up you said that you needed
- 11:32Speaker 5: to go to space to heal.
- 11:35Speaker 1: I know you're only a few minutes removed from this
- 11:37Speaker 1: incredible experience. Do you feel healed now? You are officially
- 11:42Speaker 1: an astronaut. Thank you so much. I feel super connected
- 11:48Speaker 1: to love goodness. I will never be the same. I mean,
- 11:53Speaker 1: when you get up there, that's it.
- 11:54Speaker 2: There's another one. There's another one, she said, making space.
- 11:58Speaker 2: But it's so funny that just get called astronauts. It's
- 12:01Speaker 2: funny to hear the richest guy in the world's wife.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Go, we're all in it together. Oh boy. Yeah, I
- 12:07Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if people feel that. Yeah,
- 12:11Speaker 1: we're definitely not all We're all come together with your jet.
- 12:17Speaker 1: How in it together? Are we? Yeah? What that mean?
- 12:20Speaker 1: It feels like you hand selected a couple of friends
- 12:22Speaker 1: to go do this. Yeah. Yeah, I mean she should
- 12:25Speaker 1: have should have been a lottery system like Willie Waka,
- 12:28Speaker 1: where just seven random people should have been able to
- 12:31Speaker 1: go in this. I would do it just to change
- 12:33Speaker 1: my mind. That would be good. Just seven random people.
- 12:37Speaker 2: Just pull out some guy who's not supposed to be here.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Just a cashier at h g B. Someone from MS thirteen,
- 12:44Speaker 1: get him in, someone from Trend and Lauren Sanchez and
- 12:49Speaker 1: Gail King and you know, oh you see.
- 12:51Speaker 2: They released the footage dash cam footage or police footage
- 12:56Speaker 2: of the guy who they're saying was just a father,
- 13:00Speaker 2: the Maryland father, as he got pulled over with eight
- 13:03Speaker 2: undocumented people in his truck. They were all supposedly staying
- 13:06Speaker 2: at his house. Yeah, I didn't see that the wife
- 13:10Speaker 2: had a restraining order against them, a protection.
- 13:13Speaker 1: I saw that there was a restraining order. I saw
- 13:15Speaker 1: that they he was hanging out with two guys that
- 13:17Speaker 1: were in MS thirteen. Yeah, they released the Yeah he's
- 13:21Speaker 1: he's definitely sketchy Marylyn father. The guy that scares me
- 13:28Speaker 1: is the hairdresser, the gay hairstylist. Yeah.
- 13:31Speaker 7: There's a guy little tattoo and it's Tim the autism
- 13:37Speaker 7: Oh no, there was a guy with an autism awareness
- 13:39Speaker 7: tattoo and they thought it was like an MS thirteen tattoo.
- 13:43Speaker 1: But it it doesn't look like an MS thirteen tattoo.
- 13:45Speaker 2: It's a literal. The problem is everybody's a liar.
- 13:49Speaker 1: You don't know.
- 13:49Speaker 2: The Liberals are liars and the Republicans are everyone's lying.
- 13:52Speaker 2: They're all lying, and if they did shipside.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Ironically, the only people I trust are MS thirteen because
- 13:58Speaker 1: they'll tell you podcasters in MS thirteen. I would love
- 14:02Speaker 1: if you just had MS thirteen, not just three guys
- 14:05Speaker 1: with tattoos. Because, by the way, there would be no outrage.
- 14:09Speaker 1: That's what's hilarious. If you had three MS thirteen gang members,
- 14:14Speaker 1: not one person would go why did he have that
- 14:17Speaker 1: platform them? Nobody would. If you have anyone else on,
- 14:21Speaker 1: it'll be a horrible thing. But if it was three
- 14:24Speaker 1: guys MS thirteen with head to toe tattoos who admitted
- 14:27Speaker 1: to killing multiple people and you said, now, now tell
- 14:31Speaker 1: me about what it's like to grow up and San
- 14:33Speaker 1: Pedro Sula or whatever, and it would be okay.
- 14:36Speaker 2: Well that was one. That's good is because I think
- 14:38Speaker 2: it's important to learn about other cultures.
- 14:40Speaker 1: Of well a thousand percent, and they should have their
- 14:42Speaker 1: chance to talk.
- 14:43Speaker 2: And what's not cool is talking about maybe Israel did
- 14:47Speaker 2: something wrong. You really not do that.
- 14:50Speaker 1: I I think it's criminal of you to even discuss anything.
- 14:55Speaker 2: Well, apparently I've been co opted by what's called the
- 14:58Speaker 2: woke right, the woke right.
- 15:00Speaker 1: There's a woke right now. Yes, and they're fascinating, they're
- 15:03Speaker 1: co opting.
- 15:04Speaker 2: I still haven't accepted the fact that I've left the left.
- 15:06Speaker 1: I did a CNN interview for an hour because I'm
- 15:09Speaker 1: promoting my special and then yeah, they talk to this
- 15:13Speaker 1: girl Elle reeves Elle. She was cool. She does all
- 15:17Speaker 1: the you know when you see the Vice documentaries where
- 15:19Speaker 1: she talks to the Nazis and the insults. Oh Jesus
- 15:21Speaker 1: did it was that chick? And they sent her in.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Oh that's a good movie.
- 15:25Speaker 1: I was like, this is hilarious. So I'm sitting there
- 15:27Speaker 1: and she says sound. She's like, are there any left
- 15:29Speaker 1: wing comedians? And I named ten of them that are
- 15:31Speaker 1: all in arenas and she goes, oh, because their whole
- 15:35Speaker 1: thing now is that podcasts are the most powerful people
- 15:38Speaker 1: in the world. And she goes, do you think your
- 15:39Speaker 1: friends are the new establishment? I said, well, there's twenty
- 15:41Speaker 1: two intelligence agencies in Aitar, legacy media, there's lots of
- 15:45Speaker 1: Ivy League schools, there's this, there's that. Do I think
- 15:48Speaker 1: THEO Vaughn's the new establishment? No, I don't think so.
- 15:53Speaker 1: I think I think you ran a really unpopular candidate.
- 15:56Speaker 1: I don't think Americans like child sex changes, and I
- 15:59Speaker 1: don't think they want an open border. And I think
- 16:01Speaker 1: if you, you know, co opted some of those issues,
- 16:03Speaker 1: you might have won. They said to me, CNN, They're like,
- 16:06Speaker 1: we're editing the interview. I said, put the hour out.
- 16:08Speaker 1: I sat there for an hour and we had a
- 16:11Speaker 1: nice conversation. But you know, we talked for one hour
- 16:14Speaker 1: and I was like, put it out. I'm like, I
- 16:16Speaker 1: understand if you can't put it out. And then she
- 16:19Speaker 1: goes like this. She goes, I can't believe you'd show up.
- 16:25Speaker 1: People have said that they can't come on here because
- 16:28Speaker 1: Joe Rogan would get mad at them. I said, that's
- 16:29Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous. Why would I said, he doesn't care, he
- 16:32Speaker 1: would never care. I said, it's the silliest thing ever.
- 16:36Speaker 2: They think we're at war.
- 16:38Speaker 1: I just said, put out the thing. Put out the
- 16:39Speaker 1: hour online. If you can only put out a few
- 16:41Speaker 1: minutes on on network, fine, but it's wrong to have
- 16:44Speaker 1: someone come in and talk for an hour and then
- 16:48Speaker 1: and then use five minutes.
- 16:50Speaker 2: So how much did they use We don't know yet.
- 16:53Speaker 1: They haven't put it out.
- 16:54Speaker 2: And you did they say we can't put the whole
- 16:56Speaker 2: hour out.
- 16:57Speaker 1: I texted this journalist and she texted me. She goes,
- 16:59Speaker 1: I'm for like a long form release. I go, yeah, man,
- 17:03Speaker 1: just put out the interview.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Also, do you guys want ratings or no?
- 17:06Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a conversation about all these things you
- 17:09Speaker 1: guys talk about.
- 17:10Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys have a website, then what are we doing?
- 17:13Speaker 1: Don't you have a YouTube page? And she's like, I go,
- 17:18Speaker 1: she goes, She goes, what do you think that your
- 17:20Speaker 1: Roganshiwis is a popular I go, well, one of the
- 17:22Speaker 1: reasons is he doesn't edit people. They don't. They're not edited.
- 17:26Speaker 1: They come on, they say what they want to say
- 17:28Speaker 1: and there's no editing. So what's weird about those institutions
- 17:31Speaker 1: is they will sit you down for an hour and
- 17:32Speaker 1: then I guess cherry pick what they think their audience
- 17:36Speaker 1: wants to say.
- 17:37Speaker 2: They just want what they think is going to grab
- 17:39Speaker 2: the most ratings and is not going to make them
- 17:41Speaker 2: look stupid. So if you're mocking them openly, YEA explain.
- 17:45Speaker 1: What she didn't know? And she said she does comedies, right, wait,
- 17:48Speaker 1: you know, I go, she goes, name left of center comedians.
- 17:50Speaker 1: I named literally eight of them, and I said they
- 17:52Speaker 1: all are in arenas. I go, what are you talking
- 17:54Speaker 1: about it? What are you talking about?
- 17:56Speaker 2: It's so dumb.
- 17:56Speaker 1: I was like, that's your you're saying it comedies? What?
- 17:59Speaker 2: By the way, I used to be left of center
- 18:01Speaker 2: according to the metrics of two thousand and five.
- 18:04Speaker 1: I said there's a lot of Joe's positions if you
- 18:06Speaker 1: look at them, that are that are that are left
- 18:08Speaker 1: of center positions, and there's a lot of my positions
- 18:10Speaker 1: or anyone's positions. I said, there's nobody that you can
- 18:12Speaker 1: easily put in a box. But they want you to
- 18:15Speaker 1: be in that box. They're silly.
- 18:17Speaker 2: And they also want me to be an enemy of CEE.
- 18:18Speaker 2: And then I don't give a fuck of it.
- 18:19Speaker 1: You don't who cares, by the.
- 18:21Speaker 2: Way, I hope CNN correct course and does retal news
- 18:24Speaker 2: and just concentrates on the news and all fucking I
- 18:28Speaker 2: don't want editorial comments from morons. Right, So when you're
- 18:33Speaker 2: force feeding me Don Lemon's opinion on how the world
- 18:37Speaker 2: should be right and how you know everyone should be
- 18:40Speaker 2: shamed if they don't get vaccinated, like right, you're you're
- 18:43Speaker 2: force feeding me morons like no matter of course your
- 18:46Speaker 2: ratings plummeted, of course, and you guys lied about so
- 18:50Speaker 2: many fucking things and never corrected yourself.
- 18:53Speaker 1: They're an arm of the Democratic National Committee, and they're
- 18:59Speaker 1: in arm of that part.
- 19:00Speaker 2: I mean, whether they are forced to be or whether
- 19:03Speaker 2: they choose to be because they identify with being Democrat
- 19:06Speaker 2: and they want to skew things completely towards the left.
- 19:09Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what the answer to
- 19:11Speaker 2: that is.
- 19:11Speaker 1: All of the old Bush era neo conservative people who
- 19:16Speaker 1: push the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the Patriot
- 19:20Speaker 1: Act and Guantanamo Bay and all of this stuff all
- 19:23Speaker 1: fine homes, usually on MSNBC or CNN, advocating for or
- 19:30Speaker 1: Ran or an escalation in Ukraine. They always so it's
- 19:34Speaker 1: kind of an establishment doesn't seem to matter.
- 19:36Speaker 2: They don't really care about party right and you know
- 19:40Speaker 2: they're doing better now though. I mean this when they
- 19:43Speaker 2: have Scott Jennings.
- 19:43Speaker 1: On, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's great.
- 19:46Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the kind of conversations you need. Completely ridiculous
- 19:49Speaker 2: people or other fucking minds versus Scott Jennings like those.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Are great because it's some fun.
- 19:53Speaker 2: It makes these ridiculous woke anchors look retarded, and they should.
- 20:00Speaker 2: They are in the world.
- 20:01Speaker 1: There are good principled arguments that against right wing things. Yes,
- 20:06Speaker 1: you just can't have people who are completely out of
- 20:09Speaker 1: it make them exactly exactly.
- 20:12Speaker 2: After the election, one of my favorite ones was it
- 20:14Speaker 2: CNBC or CNN. I forgot would this guy was talking
- 20:17Speaker 2: about this whole right wing podcast ecosystem that's incredibly well
- 20:22Speaker 2: funded and organized, and what are you talking about? Like
- 20:25Speaker 2: you could literally go to the roots of how it
- 20:27Speaker 2: all started. You could see every one of us doing
- 20:30Speaker 2: our first podcast with a fucking.
- 20:32Speaker 1: There's there's no funding. What are we talking about? What
- 20:37Speaker 1: are we saying?
- 20:38Speaker 2: Even the idea that we're all organized together or that,
- 20:41Speaker 2: Like I would want to prevent people from going on CNN, Well,
- 20:44Speaker 2: it's silly.
- 20:45Speaker 1: Would not care less because that's the way they operate.
- 20:48Speaker 1: You always usually like a lot of times you end
- 20:51Speaker 1: up accusing people of something you're doing right, so you
- 20:53Speaker 1: because you are familiar with that. So they're like, well,
- 20:56Speaker 1: we have a top down corporate oligarchy telling us what
- 20:59Speaker 1: to do. Is that the way it works with you? Like, no,
- 21:01Speaker 1: Joe Rogan doesn't email people at the beginning of the
- 21:03Speaker 1: week and go, hey guys, this is this is where
- 21:05Speaker 1: can this is the most insane thing ever. But not
- 21:07Speaker 1: only that, Like I want them to do well. I
- 21:10Speaker 1: really don't care.
- 21:10Speaker 2: They obviously don't want me to do well, but I
- 21:13Speaker 2: don't care. I hope they Look if they turned it
- 21:16Speaker 2: around and CNN became great.
- 21:18Speaker 1: I'd watch it all the time. Well, just it used
- 21:20Speaker 1: to be great. I used to have parts on known
- 21:21Speaker 1: on it. The new thing they're doing this is, this
- 21:23Speaker 1: is a very interesting thing that's happening. If somebody says
- 21:26Speaker 1: something that they don't like and they can't immediately dismiss it,
- 21:30Speaker 1: they go, but the fans of that thing are bad people.
- 21:35Speaker 1: This is an interesting attack point. They go, But somebody
- 21:39Speaker 1: with a massive audience, if they find a sliver of
- 21:42Speaker 1: that audience to be objectionable in any way, they then go, well,
- 21:47Speaker 1: the fans of that type of questioning are anti Semitic
- 21:51Speaker 1: or racist or something, and they don't deal with the
- 21:54Speaker 1: actual facts or the actual line of argumentation.
- 21:59Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just sneaky debate tactic. When you're dealing with
- 22:02Speaker 2: I have nineteen million YouTube subscribers, How can you nail
- 22:07Speaker 2: that down to the fans? Right, you don't know, you're
- 22:10Speaker 2: just talking out of your ass. This is a non argument.
- 22:13Speaker 2: It's a stupid point. And by the way, when you're
- 22:16Speaker 2: talking about actual comments, we've already established that. I don't
- 22:21Speaker 2: know what the number is, but there's a huge number
- 22:24Speaker 2: of people that are commenting that aren't even people. They're bots, right,
- 22:29Speaker 2: state sponsored bots. They could be from Ukraine, they could
- 22:32Speaker 2: be from America, they could be from Russia, they could
- 22:35Speaker 2: be from Israel.
- 22:36Speaker 1: And I want more of them. So if they're a
- 22:38Speaker 1: state sponsored bots that can that can jack my ratings out,
- 22:41Speaker 1: they can if they want to come over to me,
- 22:44Speaker 1: you have anything nice to say about Israel, any of Ukraine.
- 22:46Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the money. I texted Barry Wise to go.
- 22:49Speaker 1: Here's the way this game works. I get a little
- 22:53Speaker 1: bit of money first, not not. I go on and
- 22:56Speaker 1: defend whatever the hell you people want to do. I'm
- 22:59Speaker 1: not gonna get my big if you and I go
- 23:00Speaker 1: to Israel, we slap on the yamaka. Absolutely absolutely the
- 23:05Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, Oh yeah sure, I mean did and and
- 23:10Speaker 1: my film is greenlit. When you have to kiss the wall, No,
- 23:14Speaker 1: I don't know anything the walls. The way is that
- 23:16Speaker 1: the whaling wall? I don't know.
- 23:17Speaker 2: But Mike Kokabi's over there like a good Christian.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Oh well, he loves it. He loves it because the
- 23:22Speaker 1: fundamentalist Christians go hard with with the Israel thing, like
- 23:26Speaker 1: let's say Jesus is coming back to spot Yeah there.
- 23:29Speaker 1: What's very interesting is if Israel said to a fundamentalist Christian,
- 23:32Speaker 1: if called Mike Cockaby said we're gonna have the new Kiran.
- 23:35Speaker 1: He'd go, let's do it.
- 23:38Speaker 2: That's what Jesus, let's do it.
- 23:39Speaker 1: That's what Jesus would want. A nuclear war. So that's
- 23:42Speaker 1: where we've gotten. We've got wants us to use the nukes.
- 23:49Speaker 1: Where where we have fundamentalist Christians and and and fundamentalists
- 23:52Speaker 1: is really and fundamentalist Muslims on the other side, and
- 23:55Speaker 1: everybody's playing this weird game. And yeah there is boy,
- 24:00Speaker 1: he looks old Jesus. This is just hilarious. If this
- 24:03Speaker 1: is the freeze frame from the episode that guys they
- 24:06Speaker 1: stop dyeing their hair at some point in time, just
- 24:08Speaker 1: say oh fuck it, you know, like stallone, Dude. The
- 24:11Speaker 1: best hat they have is the shrimel. They wear it
- 24:13Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. It's that big furry rush. I love that hat.
- 24:16Speaker 1: Looks sick. It looks like something got a game of rounds.
- 24:19Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a hat, Like, I don't give a fuck
- 24:20Speaker 2: what you think as a member of the tribe. Bitch.
- 24:23Speaker 2: I got strings hanging from my belt, I got and
- 24:25Speaker 2: I'm rocking up.
- 24:26Speaker 1: I got a hat, a bear dick hat. Yeah, I
- 24:28Speaker 1: mean that's a pretty sick hat.
- 24:30Speaker 2: I like that.
- 24:31Speaker 1: I think people can't get past the fact that like.
- 24:34Speaker 2: That hat that has the ship, what's that made?
- 24:37Speaker 1: At h.
- 24:39Speaker 2: Let's answer the question wide Orthodox Jewish man, Where's are
- 24:42Speaker 2: you when you need him? That's a great He never
- 24:44Speaker 2: had to wear one.
- 24:44Speaker 1: Of those hats though, No, but he looked good. Yeah.
- 24:46Speaker 2: I got a ton of hats from different UFC fighters. Yeah,
- 24:50Speaker 2: from like Dagisthan and from Kazakhstan. I got a cool
- 24:55Speaker 2: Kazakhstan hat from shop Cat ram Cat.
- 24:59Speaker 1: It's an objective.
- 25:02Speaker 2: There was an article that just said it before that
- 25:05Speaker 2: the fur one. If you go back up in the
- 25:07Speaker 2: upper left corner, upper left corner. Yeah, jew in the
- 25:10Speaker 2: City is the name of the website. God, I hope,
- 25:14Speaker 2: but Jewish persons running that website otherwise they're gonna get assassinated.
- 25:18Speaker 1: Uh.
- 25:19Speaker 2: The fur hat is known by the Yiddish name how
- 25:22Speaker 2: do you say that? Strimo shrimel schrimel Uh. The strimol
- 25:26Speaker 2: was adopted by Eastern European Jewish communities in the eighteenth century,
- 25:29Speaker 2: coinciding with the rise of acidic Judaism. Technically, a shrimel
- 25:33Speaker 2: is one particular style of hat. There are others. One
- 25:35Speaker 2: that might be familiar on site is the spodic oh
- 25:38Speaker 2: you fucking pop up at cocksucker into your email, which
- 25:41Speaker 2: is taller and more cylindrical than a strimo. A spodic
- 25:44Speaker 2: is the style generally favored by Hasidic sets of Polish descent.
- 25:48Speaker 2: To the casual observer, however, they're all strimel strimes made
- 25:51Speaker 2: from a large piece of velvet surrounded by fur. Fur
- 25:54Speaker 2: usually comes from the tips of the tails of sable
- 25:57Speaker 2: Martins or fox Nice synthetic trimals do exist, They're more
- 26:02Speaker 2: common in Israel than elsewhere. Interesting strimo can cost thousands
- 26:06Speaker 2: of dollars, so it's not uncommon for us as acidic
- 26:08Speaker 2: man to own a second, cheaper strimal so his main
- 26:11Speaker 2: strimal will not be battered by the elements.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Interesting.
- 26:15Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, it's cool that. Let everybody know you're part
- 26:20Speaker 2: of this.
- 26:20Speaker 1: It's a fun hat.
- 26:21Speaker 2: Maybe can he Comedians mean like a thing that we
- 26:23Speaker 2: wear a hat? Yeah, like a thing we don't give
- 26:26Speaker 2: a fuck?
- 26:27Speaker 1: Yeah? I like that Kanye West Black Clan suit, that's dope.
- 26:30Speaker 2: How about his giant swastika in diamonds?
- 26:33Speaker 1: Have you seen that? What's funny is a jeweler made
- 26:36Speaker 1: that and a Jewish jeweler. Yeah, one that Israeli Jewish
- 26:40Speaker 1: made that significant markup. Yeah, yeah, of course, I gotta
- 26:44Speaker 1: give you. It's only fair.
- 26:47Speaker 2: Yeah you need attack. I think it's only fair if
- 26:49Speaker 2: you want a Jewish man to make a swastika.
- 26:51Speaker 1: People got to separate, you know, and I think this
- 26:53Speaker 1: is not I think people got to separate, like governments
- 26:56Speaker 1: from people, intelligence agencies from people. I think that's the
- 27:00Speaker 1: whole thing. I think people are losing the ability to
- 27:02Speaker 1: do that in this case, right, because people that when
- 27:05Speaker 1: you criticize Israel, you criticize something that may or may
- 27:08Speaker 1: not have been done by a government or intelligence agentes.
- 27:11Speaker 1: You're not criticizing people, right, You're criticizing a group of
- 27:15Speaker 1: people making decisions. I don't think America always does things
- 27:18Speaker 1: that are in the best interest of the American people, right.
- 27:21Speaker 2: Well, this is the problem with when everybody sort of
- 27:24Speaker 2: picks sides during the COVID thing whether or not we
- 27:26Speaker 2: should trust the vaccine companies because like, you did it
- 27:31Speaker 2: because you're on the left, and the people on the
- 27:34Speaker 2: right were the ones who didn't want to take it.
- 27:35Speaker 2: So instead of just looking at it objectively, the people
- 27:38Speaker 2: on the left are like everybody who doesn't agrees of
- 27:41Speaker 2: a science denier, and it got like really kooky because
- 27:44Speaker 2: it got ideological. And as soon as it's ideological, you
- 27:48Speaker 2: can fucking justify anything. This is how how Jewish Americans
- 27:52Speaker 2: are justifying well. Hamas uses people as human shields. Like
- 27:56Speaker 2: they'll say things like that, like it's the way you
- 27:57Speaker 2: can justify mass murder. Yeah, it's the way you can
- 28:00Speaker 2: justify anything anything. As long as the tribe on your side,
- 28:05Speaker 2: whatever your clan.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Is, you can you can justify things.
- 28:09Speaker 2: And so people stopped thinking, they stopped thinking, and they
- 28:12Speaker 2: just think completely along ideological lines. It's frustrating, it is.
- 28:17Speaker 1: It is and passionately, yea very passionately. No one is
- 28:22Speaker 1: ever questioning anything. No one ever question No one goes
- 28:27Speaker 1: wait a minute, like I think it's healthy to every
- 28:29Speaker 1: now and then go maybe I'm wrong. Yeah.
- 28:32Speaker 2: There was just something that got released today that showed
- 28:35Speaker 2: they just released today that showed that COVID nineteen definitively
- 28:38Speaker 2: came from that lab. Proof it came from that lab.
- 28:43Speaker 1: I read it a little bit of it on the
- 28:45Speaker 1: way here. Yeah.
- 28:46Speaker 2: It's nuts. It's nuts, man, It's nuts. These fucking people
- 28:50Speaker 2: they just got roped into this.
- 28:53Speaker 1: And it was a man completely man made disease one
- 28:57Speaker 1: hundred percent, and they knew that from the moment it leaked,
- 29:01Speaker 1: the moment it happened, and they just lied, and Fauci is
- 29:04Speaker 1: just out there walking around. That's an interesting it's an
- 29:08Speaker 1: it's an interesting case when someone like that in that
- 29:12Speaker 1: position repeatedly lied to people about the origins of that
- 29:21Speaker 1: and is allowed to just be and faces zero consequences.
- 29:25Speaker 2: They were trying to put Trump in jail because.
- 29:27Speaker 1: He inflated the price of a condo. Would you see
- 29:32Speaker 1: what they got? An appraisal that was higher and then
- 29:34Speaker 1: they lied.
- 29:38Speaker 2: Leticia James is now in trouble for the exact same ship.
- 29:41Speaker 1: You didn't see that. That makes sense.
- 29:42Speaker 2: They're investigating her because she allegedly, according to Megan Kelly,
- 29:47Speaker 2: who I trust, implicitly, allegedly went and got mortgages with
- 29:51Speaker 2: her father, listing them as husband and wife on buildings
- 29:57Speaker 2: multiple times, and then also lied about the amount of
- 30:01Speaker 2: bedrooms that were in a place. Because of its four bedrooms,
- 30:04Speaker 2: you get one tax rate. If it's five, it's more.
- 30:07Speaker 2: So she lied it was a five, and she said
- 30:08Speaker 2: it was a four.
- 30:09Speaker 1: Right, Well, this is what they all do. So I
- 30:12Speaker 1: think really the funny thing about all the cases that
- 30:15Speaker 1: they brought against Trump, a lot of those cases were
- 30:18Speaker 1: rooted in a just politicized version of something that's pretty
- 30:25Speaker 1: standard that a lot of people have done. Yeah, they
- 30:27Speaker 1: always overvalue their proper, always overvalue properties, and people get
- 30:31Speaker 1: away with it and it's not's not a crime.
- 30:35Speaker 2: But here's the thing about the truck thing is that
- 30:37Speaker 2: all the people had been paid, so not only was
- 30:40Speaker 2: it profitable for the banks, he paid everything on time
- 30:42Speaker 2: the loan. There's no criminal like, there's no crime, No
- 30:47Speaker 2: one got victimized, nothing happened. They profited, right, And then
- 30:52Speaker 2: this crazy lady with a terrible past thought that she
- 30:55Speaker 2: was going to be able to pull this off because
- 30:57Speaker 2: she was on the team that she thought was going
- 30:58Speaker 2: to win. Putting all your eggs in one basket like
- 31:02Speaker 2: a bunch of morons.
- 31:03Speaker 1: It feels things. It feels like you have there's somewhere
- 31:07Speaker 1: in some kind of cold war between two factions in
- 31:12Speaker 1: American politics that are using courts and lawyers to go
- 31:17Speaker 1: at each other. It's not hot war. People aren't fighting
- 31:21Speaker 1: in the streets, but it does seem to be. These
- 31:23Speaker 1: parties seem to no longer view each other as different
- 31:29Speaker 1: sides of the same coin. There seems to be, especially
- 31:33Speaker 1: when it comes to Trump, it seems to be like
- 31:35Speaker 1: they cannot you see him as anything other than an
- 31:39Speaker 1: existential threat that has to be vanquished at any cost.
- 31:43Speaker 2: Right, And the problem with that is when you deny
- 31:47Speaker 2: good things and only highlight bad things that everybody knows that. Well,
- 31:50Speaker 2: now you're playing a game, and your game is I
- 31:53Speaker 2: never tell the truth. I tell you parts of the
- 31:55Speaker 2: truth that I like.
- 31:56Speaker 1: And you got to win that game. If you're playing
- 31:59Speaker 1: that game, you're gonna win. Yeah, if you do all
- 32:01Speaker 1: these things, they have to work.
- 32:02Speaker 2: And if Trump gets an office, even if you have
- 32:04Speaker 2: those things, it's a problem you have. You're fucked.
- 32:07Speaker 1: Then it's a problem. You know. It's like with JFK.
- 32:09Speaker 1: They got them, Yeah, you know, obviously not good, but
- 32:13Speaker 1: they got them, and then that slammed the door shut,
- 32:16Speaker 1: and then all their people came in and kept the
- 32:17Speaker 1: cover up going on. I wish I.
- 32:19Speaker 2: Really understood all this stuff that we talk about, because
- 32:23Speaker 2: there's an argument that we haven't had a real president
- 32:25Speaker 2: since JFK got shot.
- 32:27Speaker 1: That's probably a good argument, And there's maybe arguments that
- 32:30Speaker 1: we actually didn't have real presidence prior to JFK.
- 32:34Speaker 2: Right, So, well, what do you think is happening now?
- 32:37Speaker 1: Then? Do you think that I think you have these guys? Right, So,
- 32:40Speaker 1: these guys that did go into the CIA, they they
- 32:43Speaker 1: they learn all about these underground groups. They have all
- 32:51Speaker 1: of these different relationships all over the world, right, weapons meant,
- 32:55Speaker 1: you know, weapons, drug running, weapons, all of these different
- 33:00Speaker 1: you know, terrorist groups, crime, crime syndicates.
- 33:03Speaker 2: Right.
- 33:03Speaker 1: Their job is to know information about every government, all
- 33:08Speaker 1: of the separatist groups that could potentially take over and
- 33:12Speaker 1: become the next government. They have all of these connections
- 33:15Speaker 1: and then they either leave the CIA, they retire, or
- 33:20Speaker 1: supposedly it never occurs to any of them to make
- 33:22Speaker 1: a buck, that's the real question, Right, It never occurs
- 33:27Speaker 1: to any of these people that there might be a
- 33:30Speaker 1: great way to make a buck working with some of
- 33:34Speaker 1: these people outside of Congress, the White House, all of that.
- 33:40Speaker 1: That's as it's been explained to me by pretty smart people.
- 33:43Speaker 1: That's what you have. You have a rogue element of
- 33:47Speaker 1: people in those agencies that have massive amounts of money,
- 33:53Speaker 1: and they're very well connected, and they're running weapons, and
- 33:57Speaker 1: the President has no idea what's going on? And Congress
- 34:01Speaker 1: has no idea what's going on. They're not briefing a
- 34:04Speaker 1: teacher from Georgia who got elected because he promised he
- 34:08Speaker 1: was going to build a fucking shopping mall in a
- 34:11Speaker 1: suburb of Atlanta about what they're doing in Syria. They're
- 34:15Speaker 1: not breathing these people. There's nothing democratic about what's happening.
- 34:19Speaker 1: And so then you think to yourself, You're like, well,
- 34:21Speaker 1: how do we make sure everyone keeps their mouth shut?
- 34:24Speaker 1: How do we make sure everyone keeps their mouth shut shut?
- 34:27Speaker 1: Then we go not only money, but that's when we
- 34:30Speaker 1: bring in Jizlane Maxwell. That's when we bring in Jeffery Gbpssey, Right,
- 34:34Speaker 1: that's when we bring in people who go, let's all
- 34:37Speaker 1: have fun. We've got a great weekend getaway planned, and
- 34:41Speaker 1: then we can all be on camera doing something that
- 34:44Speaker 1: would get us thrown in jail, have people rightly discussed
- 34:47Speaker 1: and want to kill us, and the worst things ever
- 34:51Speaker 1: are now on camera somewhere, those tapes are somewhere. Now
- 34:56Speaker 1: everybody is completely incapable of ever coming out and saying
- 35:04Speaker 1: what's going on? And you know, and then those people
- 35:10Speaker 1: are running a parallel government. It's a parallel command structure,
- 35:16Speaker 1: and that's a huge problem.
- 35:17Speaker 2: And it was essentially completely in control for four.
- 35:19Speaker 1: Years, probably for more than four, but the last four
- 35:23Speaker 1: for sure thousand percent.
- 35:24Speaker 2: That's the best example we've ever had of that thousand
- 35:27Speaker 2: That guy's never really running things.
- 35:29Speaker 1: Thousand and it's probably still in control to a certain
- 35:35Speaker 1: degree now because it's very hard to when you have
- 35:40Speaker 1: something like that happening, it is very difficult to completely
- 35:46Speaker 1: shut it down.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Well, well, here's a perfect example that we know it's
- 35:50Speaker 2: definitely running things. Because Trump is still trying to figure
- 35:52Speaker 2: out why he got shot. He was like, I want
- 35:56Speaker 2: more information, Like, there's no inef from going to be
- 36:01Speaker 2: there's not.
- 36:02Speaker 1: Going to be information. There's not going to be information.
- 36:05Speaker 2: That's a crazy story, as you should try to connect.
- 36:08Speaker 2: Like if it's not America that did it, it's not us,
- 36:10Speaker 2: it's not intelligence age see that did it, then it
- 36:12Speaker 2: means a foreign government that hijacked this kid's brain and
- 36:15Speaker 2: got him to climb on top of that roof, like
- 36:17Speaker 2: somebody tried to get someone to assassinate the guy was
- 36:19Speaker 2: running for president, and no one seems to be interested
- 36:22Speaker 2: in finding who that person or that group who influenced
- 36:25Speaker 2: this kid is.
- 36:26Speaker 1: So many of these acts. Intelligence chiefs pop up all
- 36:29Speaker 1: over the world. They pop up in Dubai, they pop
- 36:32Speaker 1: up on and I said, to travel. They love traveling.
- 36:36Speaker 1: They're having meetings with people, They're all over the place
- 36:38Speaker 1: with people, and they're just they love people. They love cultures, culture,
- 36:42Speaker 1: they love meeting different cultures. And supposedly I heard from
- 36:46Speaker 1: someone who's again smart and I consider trustworthy, that there's
- 36:49Speaker 1: actually large sectors of the global economy that are moved
- 36:53Speaker 1: more in this direction than you'd think, Like there are
- 36:56Speaker 1: tentacles into very large investment bas some private equity companies
- 37:01Speaker 1: that a lot of these guys have. Let's put it
- 37:04Speaker 1: that way. Obviously, it does. It's not a shocking thing.
- 37:06Speaker 2: Why would why would the government let a private equity
- 37:09Speaker 2: company operate with impunity? Right so, right, so, especially if
- 37:13Speaker 2: they're controlling regulations and now.
- 37:16Speaker 1: Let's work together. There doesn't seem to be a good
- 37:19Speaker 1: answer to any of this. That becomes the real issue.
- 37:22Speaker 2: You ever get invited to these like fucking Illuminati conferences
- 37:28Speaker 2: or any of these crazy things.
- 37:29Speaker 1: No, they wanted me to do stand up at one
- 37:30Speaker 1: conference and it wasn't like an Illuminati kind thing. It
- 37:32Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, it was like some type
- 37:34Speaker 1: of like low grade Illuminati, you know that's kind of
- 37:37Speaker 1: starts so illuminati.
- 37:38Speaker 2: It's like the minor leagues. Yeah, and then eventually you
- 37:41Speaker 2: go to some weird ranch in the mountains of Wyoming.
- 37:45Speaker 1: Well that sounds nice, Actually does sound nice? Maybe? No,
- 37:49Speaker 1: I think that, like, it does seem weird that a
- 37:53Speaker 1: lot of once you get to a certain level, people
- 37:58Speaker 1: take an interest in you that never were interesting, you
- 38:01Speaker 1: know for sure? For sure, Yeah, people are interested. Welcome
- 38:05Speaker 1: to my world. Yeah, it is strange that people seem
- 38:09Speaker 1: to care about you or what you're saying, or people
- 38:15Speaker 1: going to I think you read on that is wrong
- 38:18Speaker 1: and you're like, why do you care what it is?
- 38:20Speaker 1: I'm a fucking guy with a talking, you know, microphone
- 38:23Speaker 1: once or twice a week. Yeah.
- 38:24Speaker 2: They don't like that. They don't like people having influence
- 38:26Speaker 2: that haven't been sanctioned.
- 38:28Speaker 1: They don't like that.
- 38:29Speaker 2: Yeah. They want all influence to be top down, all influenced,
- 38:33Speaker 2: to be a part of a giant corporation. Yeah, that's
- 38:35Speaker 2: what they want. They don't want influence to be just
- 38:38Speaker 2: regular people. Regular people are fringe. They're farthest or far
- 38:42Speaker 2: that they're problematic. They spew misinformation and dissar just no
- 38:47Speaker 2: one is poo's more misinformation than CNN. How many times
- 38:52Speaker 2: you guys, just what you guys did over COVID. If
- 38:55Speaker 2: you were a podcaster, you'd be shut down, right Like
- 38:58Speaker 2: if the podcasters were the one telling everybody to get vaxxed.
- 39:01Speaker 2: You get it, you won't get you won't spread it.
- 39:03Speaker 2: You want this, you want that there's no side effects.
- 39:06Speaker 2: If podcasters are saying that, but the establishment news was saying,
- 39:09Speaker 2: hold on, this is an experimental vaccine. We should not
- 39:12Speaker 2: be asking women who are pregnant to take this. We
- 39:14Speaker 2: should be now not asking kids who are in no
- 39:16Speaker 2: danger to take this. We do not know the long
- 39:18Speaker 2: term consequences. If podcasters were saying that, you know, the
- 39:24Speaker 2: podcasters were on the government side instead of CNN. If
- 39:28Speaker 2: CNN was the wise ones that told everybody to be cautious,
- 39:31Speaker 2: they would want us prosecuted. They would be going after
- 39:33Speaker 2: us for all the side effects that people are experiencing.
- 39:36Speaker 2: You have blood on your hands. You're responsible for strokes
- 39:39Speaker 2: and heart attacks and mile carditis and all sorts of
- 39:41Speaker 2: autoimmune To.
- 39:42Speaker 1: Think about here, it is for let's say an intelligence
- 39:46Speaker 1: community to manipulate them than it is to come in here,
- 39:48Speaker 1: like an intelligence community is not going to go. All
- 39:51Speaker 1: I have to do is bring me to the UFOs.
- 39:56Speaker 2: Telling them that, yes, that's all you have to do.
- 39:58Speaker 2: Do you want me to do? Is it? We're gonna
- 40:00Speaker 2: go to roar with Kosovo.
- 40:02Speaker 1: I don't even know where Coastovo.
- 40:03Speaker 2: Is on a map, but if you tell me where
- 40:04Speaker 2: the UFOs are, I'll have a guy in here that
- 40:06Speaker 2: explains why it's super important.
- 40:08Speaker 1: But it is funny. It's like what they'd have to
- 40:10Speaker 1: do is pick somebody, have them become a comedian, start
- 40:13Speaker 1: a podcast, get in aud it. Like it is difficult, right,
- 40:16Speaker 1: Whereas if you work at a media company, it's very
- 40:19Speaker 1: easy to just some new guys there.
- 40:22Speaker 2: Who's this right?
- 40:23Speaker 1: Right? Oh? You know what I mean? Somebody just shows up? Hey, Suzanne, Suzanne,
- 40:28Speaker 1: run everything by Suzanne.
- 40:29Speaker 2: Hey, how does this guy, Bob Woodward? Why does he
- 40:33Speaker 2: get the most important? He just this is his first case.
- 40:35Speaker 2: Lucky guy, he gets Watergate.
- 40:37Speaker 1: Lucky guy.
- 40:38Speaker 2: Wait a minute, what did he do for Navy intelligence?
- 40:41Speaker 1: Right? Lucky guy? That Watergate thing's so funny. I've been
- 40:46Speaker 1: here for thirty years, Mike, I haven't gotten up. Bob's
- 40:49Speaker 1: taking this case. Bob's taking down Nixon, Who's kept keeps
- 40:53Speaker 1: asking questions about what happened to Kennedy.
- 40:55Speaker 2: Did you see when Bill Murray was here?
- 40:57Speaker 1: I did. Yeah.
- 40:58Speaker 2: Did you see the thing that he said about Wired?
- 41:00Speaker 1: The book? Yeah?
- 41:01Speaker 2: Wait?
- 41:02Speaker 1: Which one? Wired?
- 41:02Speaker 2: Is the book on John Belushi? He said, I've read
- 41:04Speaker 2: the first five pages and I was like, oh my god,
- 41:07Speaker 2: they set up Nixon.
- 41:09Speaker 1: They framed Nixon. That's so funny.
- 41:11Speaker 2: This's what he said. He's like, if this is what
- 41:14Speaker 2: they say, this is what the same guy said about
- 41:17Speaker 2: John Belushi, which is not true. Do you know John
- 41:19Speaker 2: Belushi was a lightweight. He would drink a couple of
- 41:22Speaker 2: beers and he'd be fucked up.
- 41:23Speaker 1: He didn't have tolerance. He wasn't this maniacal coach. It
- 41:27Speaker 1: was all lies. They don't care at all about getting
- 41:30Speaker 1: any accurate information.
- 41:32Speaker 2: That time that he died was probably the first time
- 41:34Speaker 2: he ever did a speedball corn wow wow. Yeah. And
- 41:37Speaker 2: Bill Murray was one of his best friends. Bill Murray
- 41:39Speaker 2: knew Bill Maher's like, I've known this guy most of
- 41:41Speaker 2: my life. And then there he goes, they framed Nixon, right,
- 41:45Speaker 2: And then I told him the whole story. They touch
- 41:47Speaker 2: across and it told me, which I was like, what
- 41:50Speaker 2: that It was all FBI agents and the whole thing
- 41:53Speaker 2: was a complete sting. It was.
- 41:55Speaker 1: It was a sloppy burglary where they wanted to get caught.
- 42:00Speaker 1: They traced it back to Nixon because Nixon was doing
- 42:03Speaker 1: things they hated.
- 42:04Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing they got Nixon on. I
- 42:05Speaker 2: don't know if you know, but what they said to
- 42:07Speaker 2: Nixon they told if Nixon was not guilty of the crime,
- 42:10Speaker 2: but they told Nixon about the crime and then he
- 42:12Speaker 2: helped them cover it up. That's how they got them, right.
- 42:15Speaker 1: But what is he gonna do?
- 42:16Speaker 2: Of course he thinks this is on the the leg
- 42:19Speaker 2: and you come to him with the crime like, oh,
- 42:20Speaker 2: Jesus girl telling him Jesus Christ him, what did you do?
- 42:24Speaker 2: You bugged cap City?
- 42:27Speaker 1: Fun They had to get rid of they had to
- 42:29Speaker 1: get they had to get rid of him.
- 42:30Speaker 2: Well, this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna we're
- 42:32Speaker 2: gonna throw our phones in the river.
- 42:33Speaker 1: Yeah, here's what happens now.
- 42:38Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, how do we get out of this?
- 42:40Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 42:40Speaker 2: Where'd you put the bugs? Can get Can we break
- 42:42Speaker 2: in and take the bugs back.
- 42:43Speaker 1: That's so funny. They'd be self flattered if you if
- 42:46Speaker 1: we bug Cap City. I heard that's awesome.
- 42:48Speaker 2: Somebody told me last night that they hate us. I'm like,
- 42:50Speaker 2: how do you hate me? I love you. I used
- 42:51Speaker 2: to love the old Cap City. If you got head
- 42:54Speaker 2: Cap City, if you got headliners and you need them,
- 42:57Speaker 2: I'll promote it. I'll promote it on Twitter.
- 42:59Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 43:00Speaker 2: And the same thing with Moon Tower. They're mad at
- 43:03Speaker 2: me too because I wouldn't have them at the club.
- 43:05Speaker 2: I'm happy to help you. I would happy to help you.
- 43:07Speaker 2: I just don't want you to book my club. That's
- 43:10Speaker 2: all it is. My club has sold out every night. Yeah,
- 43:12Speaker 2: and it's guys like you and Shane and Ari and
- 43:15Speaker 2: all these I don't want anybody else booking it. It
- 43:18Speaker 2: doesn't mean that I don't support your cause. I just
- 43:22Speaker 2: don't want you coming into my establishment.
- 43:24Speaker 1: That's all it is.
- 43:24Speaker 2: I don't I want everybody to do well. There's five
- 43:27Speaker 2: comedy clubs on my street.
- 43:29Speaker 1: What you've done, I think, ultimately is good for the town.
- 43:33Speaker 1: You bring people into the town.
- 43:35Speaker 2: The problem is when people used to be in control
- 43:37Speaker 2: of comedy in the town and then all of a sudden,
- 43:39Speaker 2: they're not. And they used to be like the person
- 43:41Speaker 2: that people would go to, and now they're insignificant.
- 43:44Speaker 1: Right, you know, Yeah, I think a lot of people
- 43:46Speaker 1: struggle with that, the idea of that that they're they're
- 43:50Speaker 1: they're losing control. I think that seems to be the
- 43:55Speaker 1: most the angriest I've seen people online since the election
- 43:59Speaker 1: that have railed against podcasts, and they've railed against they
- 44:03Speaker 1: seem to be angry that they no longer have a
- 44:09Speaker 1: monopoly on what people can.
- 44:11Speaker 2: Hear exactly, and they still continue to lie and misrepresent
- 44:15Speaker 2: people that do podcasts that are on have a different
- 44:19Speaker 2: opinion say. And that's where it gets really stupid, you know,
- 44:23Speaker 2: Like they keep saying that, you know, when I had
- 44:25Speaker 2: that Darryl Cooper guy on that I'm bringing on a
- 44:28Speaker 2: Nazi apologist and a Holocaust denier, like that is neither
- 44:31Speaker 2: of those things are true. It's not true, and the
- 44:35Speaker 2: guy doesn't just talk about that. By the way, his
- 44:38Speaker 2: stuff about Jim Jones is fucking sensational. You know, Jim
- 44:42Speaker 2: Jones was like a civil rights leader. Jim Jones had
- 44:45Speaker 2: an interracial.
- 44:46Speaker 1: Child when I didn't know anything.
- 44:47Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim Jones was like he would he had an
- 44:50Speaker 2: adopted black child that he would take to school and
- 44:52Speaker 2: everybody would be fucking furious at him in the town.
- 44:55Speaker 2: And he was like he was a legitimate Christian, like
- 44:58Speaker 2: a real I believe in the teachings of Jesus Christian.
- 45:01Speaker 1: One of the big things in the Yeah, of course,
- 45:04Speaker 1: the meth got them. Yes, Listen, there are a lot
- 45:06Speaker 1: of people questioned World War two for not good reasons.
- 45:09Speaker 2: Of course.
- 45:09Speaker 1: It's like people that bring up the age of consent.
- 45:11Speaker 1: You go late a minute, Yay, what's going on? What
- 45:14Speaker 1: are you doing? There are people I think that do
- 45:18Speaker 1: launder uh, not great reasons for questioning World War two
- 45:23Speaker 1: through whatever. However, no doubt, no doubt, there's a very
- 45:29Speaker 1: interesting the teeth really come out, the nashing of teeth
- 45:33Speaker 1: come out in this country when you question at all
- 45:37Speaker 1: the American war machine, Yes, and the pageantry of war
- 45:44Speaker 1: and the you know, iconography of the state and of
- 45:50Speaker 1: war and of how important it is and how just
- 45:52Speaker 1: it always is, and how we're always on the right
- 45:55Speaker 1: side of it and we're always doing the right thing.
- 45:57Speaker 1: And world War two we one were. But there are
- 46:00Speaker 1: a lot of other times when we've made grave errors
- 46:05Speaker 1: with our military, yes, and I feel like it's not
- 46:10Speaker 1: good enough for you can't just point to World War Two,
- 46:16Speaker 1: which is again, we were correct. Yes, But I think
- 46:19Speaker 1: there is this idea that if you do, it's not
- 46:22Speaker 1: an accident. There's a million movies made about World War Two.
- 46:26Speaker 1: It's not an accident that there is a lot of
- 46:28Speaker 1: pageantry surrounding World War Two.
- 46:30Speaker 2: Also that the World War two movies have heroes of
- 46:32Speaker 2: Vietnam movies are a buck. That's right, everything's complicated and
- 46:36Speaker 2: it's all chaos.
- 46:37Speaker 1: So I think that inspires the idea that a military
- 46:40Speaker 1: solution is always correct and that the use of force
- 46:43Speaker 1: is always the right way to do it, and that
- 46:45Speaker 1: coincidentally makes people lots and lots of money and their
- 46:49Speaker 1: children never end up fighting those wars. That seems to
- 46:54Speaker 1: be a lot of it. Now, that doesn't mean that
- 46:56Speaker 1: there aren't people with bad motivations that are genuinely antisemitica,
- 47:01Speaker 1: that genuinely are fascist inclinations. There absolutely are. But I
- 47:05Speaker 1: think there needs to be space to criticize the mythologizing
- 47:11Speaker 1: of war in general and the justification for endless wars
- 47:15Speaker 1: all the time. Like Iran, I hope Trump does not
- 47:18Speaker 1: go into Iran. That seems like a very bad idea.
- 47:21Speaker 2: It also seems like a bad idea for Iran to
- 47:23Speaker 2: get nuclear weapons.
- 47:24Speaker 1: That yes, but I think there's ways to prevent that
- 47:27Speaker 1: without a regime change war. This is what we have
- 47:29Speaker 1: to do. This is what Tolsy gabbartt I think was
- 47:31Speaker 1: very attractive about a lot of what she said during
- 47:34Speaker 1: her confirmation hearing. She goes, I understand that there are
- 47:37Speaker 1: terrorists out there that are dangerous, but we got to
- 47:40Speaker 1: find a way to deal with them without committing troops
- 47:42Speaker 1: to stand there in an Islamic country. We've done this,
- 47:46Speaker 1: we saw this movie. It doesn't work out, you know,
- 47:50Speaker 1: And I think we have to stop thinking that it's
- 47:51Speaker 1: going to be better this time if we decapitate the
- 47:55Speaker 1: head of a foreign government and we have American soldiers
- 47:59Speaker 1: in an Islamic trying to set up a provisional government.
- 48:02Speaker 1: The nightmare of that during Iraq Pol Bremmer, this weird
- 48:05Speaker 1: British looking guy that they sent to stand on that
- 48:08Speaker 1: rebel rubble with his boots and you know, the mission
- 48:11Speaker 1: accomplished on the aircraft carricter like it brings back, like
- 48:15Speaker 1: you know, to me, it's like I get flashbacks from it.
- 48:18Speaker 2: Do you remember the guy who was the Iraqi public
- 48:21Speaker 2: relations guy who was saying that they're winning the war or.
- 48:25Speaker 1: Was it Akmachalabate? Well, no, that was the guy that
- 48:26Speaker 1: fed us all the bullshit to get us in.
- 48:28Speaker 2: No, no, no, it was the guy that they people
- 48:31Speaker 2: openly mocked. I believe he had glasses and he was
- 48:34Speaker 2: the guy that was always saying that a rock is
- 48:35Speaker 2: kicking ass. Oh interesting, No, yeah, bag dad something or
- 48:40Speaker 2: another they called him, and he was saying that we
- 48:42Speaker 2: were doing good. No, no, no, he was saying that
- 48:45Speaker 2: a rock is kicking our ass.
- 48:47Speaker 1: Yeah, well do you remember that? I don't remember that
- 48:50Speaker 1: Dad something or another they called him. By the way,
- 48:52Speaker 1: does anyone know what's going on in Iraq right now?
- 48:55Speaker 1: I could if there was a gun to my head.
- 48:58Speaker 1: I could not tell you what the state of Iraqui.
- 49:02Speaker 1: I know, the talibanner in Afghanistan? What's going on? You
- 49:05Speaker 1: listen around, listen, listen, listen. You hear that.
- 49:07Speaker 2: Really that's a gay guy threw off a roof, right, right.
- 49:13Speaker 1: So that's why we spend that's a twenty year you know,
- 49:17Speaker 1: commitment or was there very long time?
- 49:19Speaker 2: Right?
- 49:20Speaker 1: So that's like I feel like that's the that's the
- 49:24Speaker 1: thing that when you ever try to have a nuanced
- 49:27Speaker 1: understanding of what we can and can't do. I don't
- 49:30Speaker 1: think it's a great idea that wrong gets nuclear weapons.
- 49:32Speaker 1: It seems like there are ways to prevent that. We've
- 49:35Speaker 1: got to make full scale invasion. But don't we need
- 49:38Speaker 1: these like I think like it. I always look at
- 49:41Speaker 1: these groups like the who thies and stuff. We need
- 49:44Speaker 1: these people, we need them and the WHO these are
- 49:46Speaker 1: a fun one because they're like on the ocean and
- 49:48Speaker 1: they're like pirates. This is new. They figured out that
- 49:56Speaker 1: like land based stuff's not as interest. They're like they're
- 49:59Speaker 1: disrupting trade. How much of our trade goes to it? Hey? Trade?
- 50:05Speaker 2: Just like I don't want to minimize these women and.
- 50:07Speaker 1: Yeah, but we need these hoothies. It feels like we
- 50:10Speaker 1: need these groups. We had isis, we had an ICIL.
- 50:14Speaker 1: Now you know, we had the people in Syria. I
- 50:16Speaker 1: forget their names something, but we need these little groups
- 50:20Speaker 1: and this is what we do. We just choose because
- 50:23Speaker 1: all of these groups are not even they're just people
- 50:26Speaker 1: hanging out and then we give them weapons and get
- 50:30Speaker 1: them going. They're just guys in a bar. A lot
- 50:33Speaker 1: of these groups are guys in a bar, a hole,
- 50:37Speaker 1: sitting a hole in the ground, and we we show
- 50:40Speaker 1: up and we start arming them and giving them stuff.
- 50:43Speaker 1: And it's like, it's like that Bill Hicks joke where
- 50:46Speaker 1: it's like pick up the gun, you know from Special
- 50:47Speaker 1: It's like, are the houthis an existential threat to the
- 50:51Speaker 1: United States? That feels crazy? The craziest thing just feels insane.
- 50:56Speaker 2: Trump showing the video of them getting bombed.
- 51:00Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so wild. We could kill all this is
- 51:03Speaker 1: the problem. We could get rid of all of these
- 51:05Speaker 1: threats in five minutes. But we don't want to seem
- 51:09Speaker 1: to want good for business. No, we gotta keep it.
- 51:12Speaker 2: Can't come out of the market every week, you'll you
- 51:14Speaker 2: burn it out.
- 51:15Speaker 1: No, the Houthis are good either. You gotta go once
- 51:19Speaker 1: a year, once every eighteen months. And I like the
- 51:20Speaker 1: Houthis because they feel it's like good new, but they're
- 51:24Speaker 1: not sticking. It's not no one's believing it. So now
- 51:26Speaker 1: they're back to hesbela. Hel aware is the fatigues. If
- 51:32Speaker 1: you get up hez Bla, they're scary looking. The Houthis
- 51:34Speaker 1: are not that scary. Who's just look like a bunch
- 51:36Speaker 1: of dudes in like a bizarre like you said, like
- 51:39Speaker 1: in a flea market. If they're on a boat, they're
- 51:41Speaker 1: holding up guns. No one cares. Hezbola looks genuinely like, okay,
- 51:45Speaker 1: let's not funck with these.
- 51:46Speaker 2: Well, it's like Shane's bit about the Iraqis or Afghanies. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 51:51Speaker 2: going through the workouts and yeah, like would think they're
- 51:55Speaker 2: like an elite army.
- 51:56Speaker 1: Oh god, can't do anything. But that's the whole thing.
- 52:01Speaker 1: It's like it's just weird global chessboard of like we
- 52:05Speaker 1: you know, as someone said to me once that there's
- 52:07Speaker 1: like a dial you turn it out, be like more
- 52:09Speaker 1: war less war, more war less war. I'm going to
- 52:12Speaker 1: some more conflict.
- 52:13Speaker 2: If smelling salts are good for allergies, have you got
- 52:16Speaker 2: any of the allergies out here? No, I don't get
- 52:18Speaker 2: the first year of legitimately getting them cedar fever.
- 52:25Speaker 1: I think you gotta do cocaine, make allergy medicine too.
- 52:30Speaker 1: Yeah that's no fun. Yeah, maybe zertak or something that's
- 52:34Speaker 1: no fun. What is it the cedar? I don't know
- 52:37Speaker 1: what it is. I think it's people say, been.
- 52:40Speaker 2: Running and did you hear Mark Copper actually might have
- 52:43Speaker 2: helped the military capture Satom musein.
- 52:45Speaker 4: What so they were on a USO tour in two
- 52:47Speaker 4: thousand and three and they got asked to come in
- 52:50Speaker 4: and do like a private show and he sat down second.
- 52:53Speaker 2: A year so it'd sir, I have a plan to
- 52:56Speaker 2: catch Sadam Hussein, the musician recalled telling a Navy adverirl
- 52:59Speaker 2: on board the air craft carry in the Persian Gulf,
- 53:01Speaker 2: according to Hoppus, who say it had been sending video
- 53:04Speaker 2: messages to his followers from an unknown location at the time.
- 53:07Speaker 2: The musician felt that the military could use drones to
- 53:09Speaker 2: their advantage and uncover his location by pulling data from
- 53:13Speaker 2: the video messages. Sir, what about having drones fly all
- 53:17Speaker 2: over the region and carpeting patterns broadcasting time codes above
- 53:21Speaker 2: the level of human hearing, but at the level that
- 53:23Speaker 2: a video recording would catch it? Hope but suggested to
- 53:27Speaker 2: the admiral. Then the next time he releases one of
- 53:29Speaker 2: his videos, you could listen to it, pull the ultrasonic
- 53:32Speaker 2: data and triangulate the drones you have flying all over Holy.
- 53:35Speaker 1: Shit, this is the guy from Blink.
- 53:39Speaker 3: I think his dad was in the military.
- 53:40Speaker 1: Someone was in something that he knew.
- 53:43Speaker 2: Okay, this brings me back to that fucking strange times
- 53:46Speaker 2: in Laurel Canyon.
- 53:46Speaker 1: Shit.
- 53:47Speaker 2: Yeah, four months later Sodom was located and captured in Iraqs.
- 53:51Speaker 2: So you're welcome everyone.
- 53:52Speaker 1: What a great book that, Well, not only did Tom
- 53:55Speaker 1: o' neil book, but then that this Dave McGowan book.
- 53:57Speaker 1: Weird scenes inside the Canyon. I lived up there when
- 53:59Speaker 1: I was living in la I lived up there, and
- 54:01Speaker 1: I'm telling you, that is the creepiest vibe of any
- 54:04Speaker 1: area that I've ever been to in my life.
- 54:06Speaker 2: It's a weird vibe.
- 54:07Speaker 1: I have that fucking military installation that lookout Mount Jared
- 54:10Speaker 1: owns that he lives there. Now, doesn't he have a
- 54:12Speaker 1: whole cult? Okay, he's a good guy. I'm sure he is.
- 54:16Speaker 1: I'm saying it's bad to pack.
- 54:18Speaker 2: They tried to investigate his cult, and it turns out
- 54:21Speaker 2: it's not really it's just a bunch of people having fun. Yeah, revironments,
- 54:25Speaker 2: there's no no one asks you to fuck them, there's
- 54:28Speaker 2: no no.
- 54:29Speaker 1: It's a it's a voluntary fuck cult.
- 54:31Speaker 2: It's not even voluntary cult. Yes, they get together and
- 54:34Speaker 2: dance or something.
- 54:35Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 54:35Speaker 2: What they do it?
- 54:37Speaker 1: For three years, I didn't get one text. I had
- 54:40Speaker 1: not one. I used to try to buy and point
- 54:43Speaker 1: at it and go, look it's the thing. What do
- 54:45Speaker 1: they do?
- 54:46Speaker 4: What does Jared Little's it's like a summer camp they
- 54:48Speaker 4: call like echelon. Yeah, it's a I used to go
- 54:50Speaker 4: watch the band play close up.
- 54:52Speaker 1: Oh what the fuck is the problem with that?
- 54:53Speaker 2: Tim? How about Tim Dillonfest?
- 54:55Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. Basically, skank fest just
- 54:58Speaker 1: a bunch of people eating shelf shan Long Island being racist. Yeah, absolutely,
- 55:06Speaker 1: I have no issue with that at all.
- 55:08Speaker 2: What a fun time though for us? Yeah, because everything's
- 55:11Speaker 2: just talking. I mean, there's so much stuff to talk about.
- 55:13Speaker 2: Everything's nuts.
- 55:13Speaker 1: Do you think you know? I was on the All
- 55:15Speaker 1: In podcast the other day and they were talking about
- 55:19Speaker 1: these chips, these Navidia chips, and how what's interesting is
- 55:22Speaker 1: people are setting up because we have these export controls
- 55:26Speaker 1: that don't allow us to send certain chips to China
- 55:28Speaker 1: because they're able to like manipulate them and then become
- 55:31Speaker 1: like the world's largest semiconductor producer. But now all these
- 55:35Speaker 1: fun fake companies are starting in like Bhutan or Cambodia
- 55:40Speaker 1: and they're buying the chips or Singapore and then they
- 55:44Speaker 1: all get back to China.
- 55:45Speaker 2: Well, one of the guys who worked at whatever the
- 55:49Speaker 2: perminent pre eminent AI system in China was saying whistleblowers
- 55:54Speaker 2: was saying that they have fifty thousand of these fucking
- 55:57Speaker 2: band chips.
- 55:58Speaker 1: That's so wild whip. They were talking about like, is
- 56:01Speaker 1: it better to send them the chips or is it
- 56:03Speaker 1: better to if you didn't. If you don't send them chips,
- 56:05Speaker 1: then that spurs their innovation and they make the chips.
- 56:08Speaker 2: Well, either way, they're gonna get the chips.
- 56:10Speaker 1: Yeah, they're getting the chips.
- 56:11Speaker 2: They're both innovating and stealing at the same time.
- 56:14Speaker 1: There there be anything done to stop their rise. Not
- 56:18Speaker 1: at this point doesn't feel like it.
- 56:19Speaker 2: Right. There's so much more technologically advanced in so many
- 56:22Speaker 2: different areas now, Like the drones that they have are
- 56:26Speaker 2: so superior to the commercial drones that we have, because
- 56:29Speaker 2: drones over here you have to have a pilot's license
- 56:32Speaker 2: to drive the really spicy ones.
- 56:34Speaker 1: Do you think some of those drones over New Jersey
- 56:36Speaker 1: were theirs? Could be?
- 56:38Speaker 2: I think they were ours, I honestly do, Otherwise I
- 56:40Speaker 2: think they would have shot them down if they could.
- 56:43Speaker 2: I don't know if they could, and maybe they wouldn't
- 56:46Speaker 2: because then it would alarm people because then it would,
- 56:48Speaker 2: like you would show that that is a legitimate threat.
- 56:51Speaker 1: We're fighting for, like satellite supremacy in the sky too.
- 56:54Speaker 2: That's crazy crazy the Internet, the starlink, I mean, essentially
- 57:00Speaker 2: launching starlinks all over the.
- 57:02Speaker 1: You're worried all about the tech people being Democrats up
- 57:05Speaker 1: until five minutes ago, Yeah you should.
- 57:09Speaker 2: But I think a lot of those people have shifted sides,
- 57:12Speaker 2: and they've shifted sides because they understand that. Well, you know,
- 57:16Speaker 2: I had Mark Andreesen in here, and Mark Andresen was
- 57:18Speaker 2: explaining he said, the most terrifying meetings we ever had
- 57:21Speaker 2: was when we were part of an AI startup and
- 57:23Speaker 2: the government came in and said, we're not gonna let
- 57:25Speaker 2: you do this. Not only are we not going to
- 57:26Speaker 2: let you do this, We're not gonna let anybody do this.
- 57:28Speaker 1: We're gonna have a small amount of these things we're
- 57:31Speaker 1: going to completely control.
- 57:32Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like, what the fuck, Like, you guys
- 57:34Speaker 2: are really openly saying this that you're gonna inhibit innovation
- 57:39Speaker 2: at the highest level of technology. Some shit that you
- 57:42Speaker 2: probably don't even understand, but you want to have absolute control.
- 57:45Speaker 1: I think the worry is that people don't trust the government,
- 57:48Speaker 1: nor should they, But I don't know if they trust
- 57:49Speaker 1: these tech guys either. You shouldn't, Yeah, you shouldn't. Look
- 57:52Speaker 1: what's going on with open AI. That's the whole thing.
- 57:54Speaker 1: I think that people are wary of the tech people
- 57:57Speaker 1: because they've now these are the same people that we're
- 58:00Speaker 1: censoring and kicking people off the Internet. When the people
- 58:04Speaker 1: in the White House were blue, right, and now that
- 58:06Speaker 1: the people in the White House are red, they are
- 58:08Speaker 1: it's swung back the other way exactly. So I think
- 58:11Speaker 1: people are a little wary of that. Yeah, they don't
- 58:13Speaker 1: know where that goes.
- 58:14Speaker 2: It's just power, It's just it's just I mean, like
- 58:18Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders is right in that you should be scared
- 58:21Speaker 2: of oligarchs, and oligarchs shouldn't be running our government. He's
- 58:25Speaker 2: right in that regard. And when people get into positions
- 58:29Speaker 2: of just unchecked power. So let's say if someone had
- 58:33Speaker 2: control of some tech company. Let's say it's an AI company,
- 58:36Speaker 2: and that AI company literally creates the unstoppable AI that
- 58:42Speaker 2: helps empower the entire country and there's one guy's in
- 58:45Speaker 2: control of it, and he's worth three trillion dollars now,
- 58:48Speaker 2: and he decides to lobby and change a bunch of
- 58:50Speaker 2: laws and influence politicians, and his company starts donating to
- 58:54Speaker 2: certain politics. You could change the fabric of society with
- 58:57Speaker 2: enough money and enough power and enough influence, especially if
- 59:01Speaker 2: you could completely control what the narrative is, right in
- 59:05Speaker 2: terms of like when people google things, when they search things,
- 59:08Speaker 2: when they talk about things, you can completely control what
- 59:11Speaker 2: they're allowed to talk about and how that narrative gets
- 59:15Speaker 2: countered instantly with facts and bullshit. And yeah, you can just.
- 59:20Speaker 1: Well, it's being done everywhere, right, So it's being done
- 59:22Speaker 1: at the highest levels. And I think people are uncomfortable
- 59:29Speaker 1: with just losing, even though a lot of them realized
- 59:35Speaker 1: that we didn't have a ton of control. They feel
- 59:37Speaker 1: like I think when you head into the world of
- 59:39Speaker 1: tech where people just don't even know where this goes.
- 59:44Speaker 1: Where does it go? Is it good to transhumanism? Does
- 59:46Speaker 1: it go to like AI replacing everybody? And then at
- 59:49Speaker 1: what point what do you do with those people that
- 59:51Speaker 1: I replaced? Do you give them all cryptocurrency that's linked
- 59:54Speaker 1: to their biological whatever I've heard all these ideas, right, like,
- 59:59Speaker 1: how do you deal with driverless cars where if the
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: entire road is automated, how do you deal with that?
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: I think that fills people with an anxiety where they go,
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: what is the plan? And a lot of these tech
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: guys like, well, we've got to get off the planet.
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: And I think people start going like wait, you know,
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: like a lot of people. That's a lot of people like,
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: I don't know what you're saying.
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: There's a lot of people there's no air on Mars, like,
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: let's not go there.
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: Yeah, well, for sure, for sure. Do you think Trump
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: and Moscu will have a falling out eventually? I don't know.
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: It's a good question. The media keeps trying to push
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: that they are.
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: It feels like they're just big personalities in that there's
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: an inevitability when you have two guys that are incredibly
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: you know, perhaps.
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: But Elon is very smart, and you see, he's always
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: very deferential and he's always very respectful. Mister President. It's
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: always that. That's how I treat him. I always call
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: him it's Donald Trump. Yeah, I get it, you're fired.
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: I get it. But he's also the president of the
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: United States. I call him sir, but I call everybody sir. Yeah,
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: I call everybody sir.
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: It's like the byproduct of me living in Texas now right. Sure, Yeah,
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: but I don't know if they're gonna.
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: You don't get pulled over anymore here. If I do,
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: it's not that big. If you get pulled over here,
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: a cop gives you money, mister Rogan, here's a check.
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way, there's no law that you
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: cannot break. Here. I'm guaranteeing you. I don't think that's correct.
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: I think you could do a lot. I think they would.
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: You would could They would cover up a murder if
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: you murdered three people. I think the awesome p D
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: would go, whatever, man, he's doing a lot. They bring
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: that may or that guy and he'd go what they go? Yeah,
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: the suspects Joe Rogan, he was standing over the bodies.
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: They'd go, are you out of your fucking mind? Drive
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: him home right now? Drive that man home.
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: If I was in waist deep in rainy Street, oh yeah,
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: drowning a party goer.
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: I don't care, bro.
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: They still don't want to admit that there's a serial killer.
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: You're the tourism board. Yeah, no, there there's something's up.
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: There's a serial killer. Something's going on.
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: I believe there's a serial killer.
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: And what are they doing? They're luring people to that
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: bridge and then.
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not hard.
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: People like to go to the bridge. I just got
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: to look out for the weird. I guess it's such
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: a high to kill someone, and so to me, I'm like,
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: what do you get out of it? But I guess
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: the people that are doing it like it. They're broken.
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: There's broken people.
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: Some broken people do math and some broken people drowned
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: guys that like to party.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: Do you ever talk to like, I'm sure you have.
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: This is stupid question, but like the high level law
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: enforcement guys that have just met these monsters and stuff,
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and is there is they do they believe that?
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: It's like, is there any part of them that believes
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: someone's just born?
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: Yes?
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: Interesting?
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it's generally you have psychotic parents and
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: so it's was it. Whether it's nature or nurture is
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: hard to separate because you're probably abused and generally at
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: an early age they show like a willingness to torture
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: like house pets and stuff.
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: Animals.
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, they'll maybe start off with a frog
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: they catch and stick up like a firecracker in its
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: mouth and stuff like that, and then they eventually worked
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: their way up to humans.
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: Now it seems so much harder to do it because
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: of these phones surveillance. It's it is, but it's you
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: can still do it. Not in Austin. You can get
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: away with dragon you can drown people. Why don't you
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: think they'll admit it. They don't want people getting spooked.
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: It's a good question. It's a good question.
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm wrong.
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: I mean, one of the biggest things ever Austin with
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: those crazy yogurt chop murders. HBO just came out with
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: a documentary. But it was many years ago. This crazy
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: yogurt chop murder thing HBO just did a doc happened
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: in Austin. It was like a famous case and they
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: it's completely unsolved, except they put some people in jail
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: for it, but then later let one of them, Matt Like.
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: It was just one of those things where nobody was
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: sure about what happened.
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: So there were murdering people that went to the yogurt place.
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: It was nineteen ninety one, and they're just south By South.
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: They just did a.
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: Huge Oh it was one homicide, a quadruple homicide which
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: took place at I can't believe. It's yogurt chop in Austin.
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: That could have been me. In nineteen ninety one, whoa,
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: it's thirty four years ago.
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: Thirty four years ago, fourteen girls were murdered in Austin fourteen.
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: Yeah, whow And it's possible they don't. That's an unsolved murder.
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: I checked the boyfriends and there's many different theories about it.
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy. Four men were arrested in charge of
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: Capitol murder in ninety nine, but two of their cases
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: were overturned. The other two never went to trial. Wow.
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: Interesting. So there are these things that happened.
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well that's what they say that if you
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: just randomly shoot someone and kill them, like if you're
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: a real real like Randol. Like did you ever see
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: that movie Henry Ports of a Serial Killer. No, it
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: was about a guy named Henry Lee Lucas. Oh wow, yeah,
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: and Henry Lee Lucas was attributed They attributed like sixty.
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: Two murders to him.
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: The problem is, I think one of the things cops
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: do is they go, uh, did you kill this guy?
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: Yeah? I killed him too. Where'd you bury him? Where
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: was he buried?
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: That's where I bury him. That kind of thing. Now
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: you got a case solved. That was that was the
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: accusation about Henry because he was definitely a murderer and
- 1:05:24Speaker 2: a grifter and a drifter and he was traveling around
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: the country stealing things. But then they made a movie
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: about him, and then the movie it's like, what, he's
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: way more sinister and calculated, and but he would just
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: randomly kill people.
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: So that they all take credit for things they didn't
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: do exactly, to just beef up the body count exactly,
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: because that's what they want.
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: They want attention. They're already in jail.
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: That's so wild, you know.
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a when you have shitty das and shitty
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: prosecutors and shitty cops, they'll do stuff like that.
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: Do you think that there are people that you know,
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: National parks seem to be like a hotbed of people
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: disappearing and do you think Appalachian Trail people? Yeah? Do
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: you think that's people getting you or is that a
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: lot of it? Like I got lost, I got eaten?
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: You get lost? Yeah, you get eaten. There's a guy
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: who has this whole series for one is it nine
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: to one missing or for one one missing people in
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: national parks? Listen, man, you're just meat out there and
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: you get eaten. And by the way, you don't find
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: dead anything out there. You don't find dead mountain lions
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: guess what, they die all the time. I've never seen
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: a dead mountain line when I was hunting, because they
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: get eaten. They get eaten. Everything gets it. You get
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: not only do you get eaten, your bones get eaten.
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: Everything gets eaten.
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: It's so it's not uncommon to disappear and there's no trace,
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: no trace.
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, super common. So if you're in a high
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: traffic area like i've hunting, I've found elk bones where
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: a hunter killed the elk and then you know, took
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: all the meat off the bones and then left the
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: bones there. That's that's what you do when you pack
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: out meat. And I've found those those animals. I actually
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: even found one animal that I shot a long time ago.
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: I shot like four.
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: Years ago, and you found it.
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: Yeah, we were in the same location. It was the
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: same bones. There wasn't all the bones there left, right,
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: some of them been dragged away. Some of them have
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: probably been eaten by rodents. You know, they eat the
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: bones and slowly but surely. And if you're a human,
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: you're made out of nothing. You're so easy to eat, right,
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: you know, like our bones are less dense, our meat
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: is soft and chewy, you know, like we get devoured.
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: A bear would eat your whole body, there would be
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: almost nothing left. Then rodents would eat what's left.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: They gotta be careful in those places.
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: You can't be careful, Like if you don't have a
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: GPS navigation system that has a lot of batteries, if
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: you don't have a compass, have a compass and know
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: how to use it, if you don't have a map,
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: it's so easy to get lost in the woods, right,
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: it's so easy. They're all around you, and you can
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: go in one direction and circle around. You don't even
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: realize your circle on right, And then three days later
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: you're back to where you start. You're like fucking know,
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: ye eat a free bark for three days and saying
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: any step, I'm gonna see the highway.
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: What a horrible thing.
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: People die like that.
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: All all the time, all the time.
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: Just go to a hotel, it's very difficult if you
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: don't know the woods. You're not used to being in
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: the woods, and you're not used to having landmarks. And
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: you follow and know how to use a compass, know
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: how to use a GP.
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: Some people are good at it, and even they get eaten.
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: They get eating too.
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: But you break your ankle, right, how about you break
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: your ankle out there and you can't hike out. It's
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: not possible, right, what do you do?
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: Yeah, you fucking die, that's what you do. Gotta be
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: very careful. And then you hear something at night.
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: You're sleeping under a tree and hear something at night,
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: right right, you had a bear sniffing you. You can't run.
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: Away and you don't have a weapon, and you can't
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: do anything.
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: It just eats you alive.
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: And those well just so dance in the Pacific Northwest
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: and stuff like that, I mean, and everywhere, but especially
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: the position, especially there, it's like crazy.
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't find nothing out there. But that's why
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: the bigfoot rumor persists up there. It is because the
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: woods are like a box of Q tips, you know,
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: like you can't see shit out there, and I see
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: like a little shadow moving in between trees and you've
- 1:09:13Speaker 2: decided it's a bigfoot.
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: Right, but it's just like a bear.
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: It's most likely a bear, especially bears walking on two legs.
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: Northern California is weird like that too. I mean, that's
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: part of the Pacific North is probably.
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: Yeah, you get killed up there. People die up there
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: all the time. Did you ever see that documentary Sasquatch. No,
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: it's a documentary that was wasn't on Hulu, Jamie. We
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: had the director and the guy created it. It was awesome,
- 1:09:38Speaker 2: And what's really about is about marijuana growers murdered a
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: guy and then blamed it on Bigfoot.
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: Wow.
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: So these marijuana growers in Humboldt, like.
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: That up that area mountain.
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: So they all were hippies, right, and then they started
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: growing weed, and then cartel people moved in and gangs
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: moved in and they started raw being these people. So
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: these people became heavily armed, and so then they started
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: having wars with like the growers and cartel people, and
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: so there was these people that were trying to steal
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: from them. They murdered these people and then they blamed
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: it on Bigfoot. They like ran over them with a
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: fucking back ho and cross.
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: These are really violent.
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: Oh, they get violent.
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: These hippies are junkies and and you know, like this
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: whole hippie thing I think is kind of a lie.
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: Well, they all become people with money. If you're growing weed,
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: you become a multimillionaire who's carrying a side arm, okay,
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: and you're you're gonna protect your money. And then these
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: people are trying to kill you to take your shit.
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: So then you're like fucking Jason whatever his name is,
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: an ozark, right, Ja just abatement, right, and now you're
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: a drug dealer.
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: That's so funny. It's so funny. The weird like marijuana
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: where it's like it's federally still illegal, but like states,
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: it's legal in certain states, and there's that gray area
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: where there's just like you have half of that business
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: is like in the shadows and half of it and
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: people make lots of it's strange.
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: Well, not only that, because California made it legal, they
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: also made it a misdemeanor to grow it illegally. Right,
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: So what happens is these cartels started growing it on
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: national forest land and so then game wardens started finding it.
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: There's a guy named John Norris has been on the
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: podcast before. He wrote a book called Hidden War, and
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: it was all about he was a game warden and
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: he became a part of a tactical crew that was
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: busting cartel members were heavily armed growing marijuana in national forests.
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: That's crazy because the most of the illegal weed that's
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: been sold all over the country was being grown there.
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: So in the places where it is illegal, they grow
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: it where it's legal, and if they get busted, it's
- 1:11:43Speaker 2: just a misdemeanor, so it doesn't matter. And they're not
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: going to deport anybody because California is a sanctuary.
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: Right, so it doesn't matter how many acres and as
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: exactly exactly.
- 1:11:53Speaker 2: And so because it's federally illegal, it's just like when
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: there was a prohibition that propped up organized crime thing.
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: You've just propped up illegal businesses to sell something that
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: has a demand that normal. Do you think weed's going
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: to be federally legal if I had guess not during
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: this administration? Yeah, no, I don't think.
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: I think, but it feels like a lot of the
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: you know, like the experimental harm reduction policies in places
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: in Portland to go in the other way.
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: Well, they went a little crazy in a place that
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: was already crazy.
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a woman driving around shooting people up
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: called the Stabin Wagon, and she was like, if somebody
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: needed if somebody needed to fix, she'd like pull up
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: and give them clean needles and stuff. Was called the
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: Stabin Wagon. And yeah, because you're stabbing and if you're
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: just tweeting, no, this is like a way to help.
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: This was a way to help people. And people just
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: be chilling and like, hey, I need a couple of
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: clean needles. So this woman would just show up. There'd
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: be like a bunch of junkies hanging out, she'd shop,
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: she'd hop out of the Stabin Wagon with a bunch
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: of clean needles, hand them out. People like fuck, yeah,
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: good to see you.
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: Oh my god.
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: And she's like fuck yeah, you're all doing good. And
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: they're like, well, you know how it is. And the
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: problem was that didn't work. Not only did it not work,
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: it encourage people to move there. Yeah. Yeah, actually that's true.
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: So people started moving there because you're like, this is
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: actually a pretty good deal. They don't care if you
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: live on the street. And there's this bitch in a
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: van that shows up with clean needle and we'll give
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: you money. Yeah, and whatever you need, they give you
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: free money and food. Yeah.
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: Yeah. Here it is the stabbing wagon.
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: Stab and wagon harm reduction. No, I mean it's real.
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: She only has four thousand followers. That's fuck to hit
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: that follow Jamie hit a little follow on her there.
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: You got to look at a stab there's a stabbing wagon.
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: Well, at least she's healthy.
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: A stabbing wagon. Okay. At the end of the day,
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: it's like that. That seems like a good way to
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: combat drug use is to have a van of drugs.
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: That van got a one point five million dollar grant.
- 1:13:50Speaker 2: Did you see that the previous art of course one
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: million dollar Because they're trying to help people get high.
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: They're trying to help people get high in a safe way.
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: Where she parked that van. That's what I need to know.
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: I mean, it's a good question. She probably lived in
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: the burbs and then came in and then did what
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: she needed to. Well, that's a good point. Well, you
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: know those weird the north those those specific Northwest suburbs,
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: A lot of them aren't my burbs, the ones that
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: I like. Very odd those people are. It's different. They're
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: like people that live outside of Chernobyl. Yeah, they're forever.
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: It's it's different. There's not a lot of sun up there.
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: Something's going on damage. What was funny is like there's
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: a big article where they were like, yeah, this is
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: actually like what's crazy is like you read about those
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: cities right like Portland and San Francisco. They'll do the
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: craziest thing ever and then like two years later they'll
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: start going like, yeah, this just is not having the
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: results that we thought it would have, Like this is
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: drug us is up, crime is up, violence is up.
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: So Santa Monica now is doing a curfew because there's
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: been violent crimes at night. No way they're thinking about
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: doing a curfew in Santa Monica. So again because yes,
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: Santa Monica's thinking about doing a curfew because you're just
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: like violent crime. So instead of just going like hey,
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: we gotta throw these people in jail, like it's nine o'clock,
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: go home. This is California, this is the biggest economy
- 1:15:15Speaker 1: in our country, and you're thinking of having your curk
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: because they're all out of ideas on how to like
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: stop people from like being victims of violent crime.
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: Bro Ive got friends who can't sell their houses there.
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: No, it's bad. I'm glad I got I sold my
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: house when it did. Nobody wants to buy houses there.
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: Nobody wants to buy houses there. They're like, we're getting out.
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: Everybody who's not out is at least thinking about uber
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: rich people are a lot of them are just keeping
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: their houses because they can't get the money they want.
- 1:15:43Speaker 1: So like people that are like in bell Air, are
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: those crazy things right right? Beverly Hills, bell are the bohemoths.
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: They're just kind of like just leave that.
- 1:15:52Speaker 2: You gotta hope that, like there's some crazy celebrity rapper
- 1:15:55Speaker 2: guy like Kendrick Lamar decides to buy a mansion. Well,
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: you mean, like if you're selling a seventy million dollar house,
- 1:16:01Speaker 2: you have.
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: Like five people that will buy, you also got to
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: hope that they they elect Rick Caruso and he goes
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: around California in a tank with a bunch of guys
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: in bazookas and it's like the craziest thing you've ever seen.
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: That's all you can hope for.
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: You need like a Rudy Giuliani type can, Yeah.
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: I mean you need you need Sergeant Slaughter from the
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: old WWF. I mean you need a fully fascist. You
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: need a guy to run as a fascist. When they
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: go are you a Republican, he goes no, no, no, no, no,
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: I am a fascist. This is a military dictatorship. You
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: need four years of a military dictatorship in California to
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: just turn it around, to just start steering at the
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: other way.
- 1:16:55Speaker 2: Well, let's move in red. That's one thing that saw
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: by the electoral map from twenty twenty four California is
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: it's going red.
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: Yeah. There's always so many times you can wake up
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: in a four million dollar house with a gun in
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: your mouth before you start thinking differently about it.
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: You see, they were trying to pass laws where they're
- 1:17:22Speaker 2: they're deciding how much violence is enough violence if someone
- 1:17:25Speaker 2: breaks into your house, like, yeah, shoot them too many times? Right,
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: you know, in the middle of being terrified.
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: Absolutely, they will always take the side of the people
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: that are trying to destroy civilization.
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: Do you think do you think that when you don
- 1:17:40Speaker 2: your tinfoil hat and velcro the chin strap, do you
- 1:17:44Speaker 2: think that this is a grand plan to destroy civilization?
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: I think what you have I don't know if it's
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: a grand plan, but I think what you have is
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: you have two things that are happening. Simultaneously, you have uh,
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: the people, the very the last people that seem to
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: want to be in politics are people that believe in
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: like nothing. They're like empty suit Gavin Newsom types who
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: just really don't seem they just whatever room they're in.
- 1:18:16Speaker 2: Have you seen his podcast?
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: Yeah, well that proves my point. That proves my point now, right,
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: So now he's like, oh, things are going right, I'll
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: go to the right, things are going to the left,
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: I'll go to the left. So you have like these
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: people that just don't They will not like Sanders or Trump,
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: whatever you think about them. They're not going to like quote,
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: stand on business. They're not going to tell people here's
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: where I'm at. This is the way I feel. They're
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: just empty vessels. And then at the same time you
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: have that happening, you have the craziest people in the
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: world that somehow have gotten hold of a ton of
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: money and a ton of influence on social media, and
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: those empty suit politicians are like scared of these loops
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: that believe the craziest things you've ever heard. So these
- 1:19:05Speaker 1: politicians are just like taking edicts from these crazy people
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: online who tell them that we need the stab and
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: wagon and we need all this stuff. I don't I
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: don't know how that happened that somebody should should look
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: at that, how that happened and study it. And I
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: think it's a lot of these politicians are deeply corrupt,
- 1:19:24Speaker 1: and I think they're terribly afraid of whatever corruption they're
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: involved with coming to the surface. And it could be
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: personal in their personal life, it could be with the state.
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: I think, you know, the mismanagement of money, of resources,
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: all of that stuff. So if I was a really
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: corrupt politician, I would just do the craziest left wing
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: shit so that I could never be accused of anything.
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: Good move and I would just let them do whatever
- 1:19:49Speaker 1: the hell they want to go. Yeah, what fucking what?
- 1:19:51Speaker 3: What?
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: We got a new law that says you gotta you gotta,
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: you gotta, they gotta draw blood in your house from
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: you before you can defend yourself. We need a rapper. Yeah.
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: Rappers are the last people in this country that can
- 1:20:02Speaker 2: kind of get away with almost anything.
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: Well, rappers are honest, a lot of them, even though
- 1:20:07Speaker 1: they might lie about how much money they have and
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: stuff they do, there's a certain honesty to that genre
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: of music.
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: Clearly, you can go too far, like P Diddy.
- 1:20:16Speaker 1: You can go too far. But did He wasn't super honest.
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: He seemed to be concealing a bit.
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: He seemed to be Yeah, do you think he was
- 1:20:22Speaker 2: working for somebody or working with somebody or do you
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: think it was all his own.
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: Person if the CIA was like, we can't really, we
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: don't really know anything about like this world of like
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: you know, that's not what we do. We're like a
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: bunch of Harvard guys, and we have these fucking weirdos
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: that we know about how to get in with like
- 1:20:40Speaker 1: our people, but we need someone who was like a
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: black guy to do it. It could have been p Didty.
- 1:20:46Speaker 2: But didn't. All the accusations come out after he was
- 1:20:49Speaker 2: involved in a lawsuit with Srock like he was trying that's.
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: What people said. Yeah, yeah, that's where it. It's interesting, right, Yeah,
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna be.
- 1:20:58Speaker 2: Very careful when you start fucking around with people's billions.
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: Big powerful billionaires are probably they're their own governments. Yeah,
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: So I mean when you run a foul of them,
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: I think there's many ways at which they can get you.
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: Also, they feel like they pay so much money for taxes.
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of these intelligence agencies are
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: working for those people. They're not, I think on their
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: own there are there's big money to be made, and
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: there's a lot of the people that own these companies
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: and have been rich for a very long time. And
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: who aren't you know, on reality TV and you don't
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: really know who they are, but they like some of
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: them are on the Forbes List, some of them aren't.
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: Some of them are just incredibly wealthy and they've made
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: their money in ways that you could barely understand. And
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: those are people that you know, are the reason historically
- 1:21:53Speaker 1: that the CIA is going into Latin America and overthrowing
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: government so that United Fruit can you know, it's true
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: have a monopoly, right, It's like this is so they're
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: doing things at the behest of these ultra wealthy families
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: that control huge industries. Sure, and they always have.
- 1:22:13Speaker 2: I mean, that's back to Smedley Butler's that's right as
- 1:22:16Speaker 2: a racket. That was nineteen thirty three he wrote that
- 1:22:20Speaker 2: or something.
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: And that's the way the whole thing seems to be organized.
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: Yeah, and always husband, we're just learning it now, you know.
- 1:22:28Speaker 2: That's all the difference.
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: But it is falling apart now because some of their
- 1:22:30Speaker 1: kids are doing stand up comedy. No literally, I mean
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: there are people, they're young in New York and they're
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: just like they're parents are some of the wealthiest people
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: in the world, and these kids are like doing standout,
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: which is terrible sign for the Empire. That's not a
- 1:22:45Speaker 1: great sign for the Empire. Is that like a guy
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: that would have taken over his dad's business is like
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: doing dick jokes.
- 1:22:52Speaker 2: Well, he probably has a trust fund, so he probably
- 1:22:55Speaker 2: has a safety blanket and sees we're having fun. It's
- 1:22:58Speaker 2: like I want to have for sure like my dad. Yeah,
- 1:23:01Speaker 2: I have a fucking heart attack when I'm forty nine.
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: That's right. But we need them doing that, some of
- 1:23:05Speaker 1: them having Yes, everyone can't be a clown like we did.
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: There is something deeply unhealthy about the Illuminati doing stand
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: up I don't love that idea.
- 1:23:20Speaker 2: Well, unless they're using chat GPT, how good could their
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: material beer.
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: It's not ideal. It's a lot of crowd work.
- 1:23:26Speaker 2: And even if they do chat GPT has not shown
- 1:23:29Speaker 2: any ability to really craft a good joke yet.
- 1:23:32Speaker 1: It's just funny to meet some of these people and
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: then you talk to them, and they'll just like casually
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: drop that. They're like, you know, the parents like billionaires,
- 1:23:40Speaker 1: and you're like, that's awesome, man, And they're just doing
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: bar shows. It's kind of interesting and they're nice people.
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: But just to pull out and look at it from
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: a sociological standpoint, it says something about people's idea the
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: future that these people just like want to be famous.
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: Now there's some more than you'd think. Really, the New
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: York thing, Yeah, it's a lot of rich people live there,
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: and I'm talking about mega rich, like not not like hey,
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: my dad's successful or whatever. I'm talking about like whoa billions?
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: Big money. Yeah, where you go interesting.
- 1:24:14Speaker 2: And then the kids don't have any pressure to do anything.
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: The kids kind of rode around and they're they're doing stage.
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: It's just very funny. It's something that makes me live.
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: It's just like a billionaire kid on stage looking at
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: someone in the audience going, what do you do for
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: a living?
- 1:24:32Speaker 8: Yeah?
- 1:24:32Speaker 2: What do you do for a living?
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: Maybe this is the first time they've met people that
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: aren't billionaires. Well, that could also be a thing. This
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: might be a way to just socialize illuminati kids.
- 1:24:43Speaker 2: They've met their housekeepers before, maybe they asked them, like
- 1:24:45Speaker 2: what should I talk about on stage?
- 1:24:47Speaker 8: Well?
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they have. And what's funny is like
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: they have parties in their big houses and bring their
- 1:24:51Speaker 1: other comic friends who are bums, you know, young comics.
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: I mean we're all bums. So then like the parents
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: are like hello, and they bring in like a bus
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: and they go, this is my body. And then he's
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: just like staring at them, going, whoa, this place rocks.
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: It's like a sid guard. Yeah, and they're like, these
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: are my friends. And I think the parents are kind
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: of like, oh, well, isn't that nice? So maybe it's
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: a phase. I think the parents look at it like
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: they're going through a phase.
- 1:25:19Speaker 2: That's interesting that more than one of them doing.
- 1:25:22Speaker 1: It says something about that group of people that used
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: to run everything. They have a dearth of purpose in
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: their life. They're kind of aimless and they float around.
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: I don't mean specifically you know rich comedian kids. I
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: just mean like that ruling class, what are they doing now?
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: They don't really have a purpose. They kind of float around.
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: They try to this new age spirituality bullshit. They travel
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: all over the place. You look at any of these
- 1:25:49Speaker 1: rich kids instagrams. All they're doing is traveling. It's all
- 1:25:52Speaker 1: the same shit, Anguela, go here, go there. There's no purpose,
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: you know. I think they don't feel like America's has
- 1:26:01Speaker 1: a defining mission. Like if you look at families like
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: the Kennedy's, the Bushes, whatever you think about those families,
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: they served in the military. They believe that there was
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: some type of arc of history that they were a
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: part of. I feel like a lot of rich people
- 1:26:14Speaker 1: now just kind of don't believe in much of anything.
- 1:26:16Speaker 1: And it's just kind of like, I don't know, the
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: board they start a fake company.
- 1:26:22Speaker 2: Well, if your whole focus is just making more money, Yeah,
- 1:26:26Speaker 2: how much time can you spend believing in things?
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: Right, that's that's going to take away from your ability
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: to earn. Yeah, I think that's one of the big
- 1:26:33Speaker 1: problems now. And that's why I think you saw like
- 1:26:36Speaker 1: a lot of like people get crazy on the left
- 1:26:38Speaker 1: and they started instituting like all these like weird virtue
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: you know, these purity tests and stuff like that. Is
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: because I think they feel a lack of meaning and
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: they wanted to give them a lot of them wanted
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: to self flagellation and like they wanted the tenets of
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: religion they wanted, meaning they just don't have it exactly.
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: So I think that's what happens exactly with a lot
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: of them, and and their kids are nice people. They're
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: not bad people. It's just funny to see, like because
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: most people who do call me, a lot of them
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: aren't poor. A lot of them are like middle class
- 1:27:05Speaker 1: people because they have like the ability to go and
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: at least think it's an option, right. But it is
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: funny when someone goes, I'm I'm doing comedy and I'm
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: from I'm the scion of great wealth. It's an interesting
- 1:27:20Speaker 1: thing to me just because I've always been fascinated with
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: rich people and like these people that run the world,
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: and it's so interesting that some of their kids are like,
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: I want to I'm gonna do stand up comedy. Now.
- 1:27:30Speaker 2: When was the first time you met a really rich person?
- 1:27:32Speaker 2: How old were you?
- 1:27:34Speaker 1: I met a couple of like mafia people that my
- 1:27:37Speaker 1: dad used to play music, so they own some bars,
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: but they weren't super rich. I would observe them because
- 1:27:41Speaker 1: my uncle was the director of operations for all these
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: restaurant groups in New York. This restaurant group in New
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: York City that had these big, high end steakhouses, and
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: I would go and one of them was on sixty
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: third in Park and I would sit in this steakhouse
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: with my parents. I was probably eight or nine years old,
- 1:27:55Speaker 1: and you'd look around and I said to my dad once,
- 1:27:58Speaker 1: so I was like, maybe ten or eleven was weird
- 1:28:00Speaker 1: thing to say to a ten or eleven year old.
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: I was like, who are these people?
- 1:28:02Speaker 2: My dad?
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: These people around the world. I was just very fascinated
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: by all these like people that were so different because
- 1:28:09Speaker 1: in Long Island where I came from, everyone was loud
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: and and and you know, fighting all the time. And
- 1:28:15Speaker 1: you know, my my best friend Josh, who lived to
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: houses down for me, his mother I lean would scream
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: at his father in the in the front yard and
- 1:28:22Speaker 1: he was like a conductor for the railroad, and she
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: would just go, why didn't you do? And then you
- 1:28:27Speaker 1: would go to Manhattan and a lot of these restaurants
- 1:28:30Speaker 1: that my uncle had, you'd see these kind of quiet
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: people and they're all very well dressed and they were
- 1:28:34Speaker 1: in suits. And you know, in Manhattan they live in
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: these stone townhouses like you know Epstein did they live
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: in these little mini stone townhouses, and I was just fascinated.
- 1:28:43Speaker 1: I was like, it's very interesting. These these people are
- 1:28:46Speaker 1: interesting what are they up to type of thing? Right,
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: And then you start start reading about them, and you know,
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: it is just super interesting because they're a very big
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: reason why society looks the way it does, you know,
- 1:28:58Speaker 1: and and and that to me was an interesting It's
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: like why are certain people in certain positions? What role
- 1:29:06Speaker 1: do the politicians play? And what role do these really
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: quiet rich people play that are kind of waspy and
- 1:29:12Speaker 1: could be Jewish, could be anything. They're just kind of like,
- 1:29:15Speaker 1: you know, they're quiet. They don't really want you to
- 1:29:16Speaker 1: know too much about them. They really value their privacy.
- 1:29:19Speaker 1: So it's funny with the kids doing stand up comedy
- 1:29:21Speaker 1: to me and even these rich people that go on
- 1:29:23Speaker 1: these reality shows, it's interesting that it used to be
- 1:29:27Speaker 1: sacrilegious the idea that you would show people that how
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: much money you had, or that you would talk about yourself,
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: and a lot of that's starting to change, Like a
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: lot of these rich people just want to be famous.
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: It almost feels like it's the last thing left wells.
- 1:29:40Speaker 2: Young kids today when they ask them, what do you
- 1:29:43Speaker 2: want to be a giant percentage of them say famous.
- 1:29:46Speaker 2: They want to be an influencer, they want to be
- 1:29:48Speaker 2: a TikToker, a YouTuber, they want they want to be famous.
- 1:29:52Speaker 2: Because why would you want a job like your parents
- 1:29:55Speaker 2: have when you could just open sneakers?
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 1:29:58Speaker 2: Open So I'm going to do an unboxing show.
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: That's a good point.
- 1:30:00Speaker 2: Yeah, Like why would you want a regular job?
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: Yeah? Regular jobs are so sucking.
- 1:30:05Speaker 2: Especially. Look, it's one thing if you have a career, sure,
- 1:30:08Speaker 2: one thing. You start your own business, it's something exciting.
- 1:30:11Speaker 2: There's another thing to be working for somebody. Working for
- 1:30:13Speaker 2: somebody is horrible for the most.
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: Part, it is. But I think people can derive enjoyment
- 1:30:16Speaker 1: from things outside of their jobs.
- 1:30:18Speaker 2: Sure, but that leaves you one third of your day
- 1:30:20Speaker 2: that's been eaten up. Yeah, you give one thirty your
- 1:30:23Speaker 2: day for sleep, one thirty your day that's been eaten
- 1:30:25Speaker 2: up by this bullshit job, and then the remaining hours
- 1:30:28Speaker 2: between commutes and whatever the fuck you eat. Yeah, all
- 1:30:31Speaker 2: has to be wrapped up.
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: And it is. It is. I get it. I totally get.
- 1:30:35Speaker 1: If you're a young kid, you go on YouTube, you
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: go I want to be David do Brick. I don't
- 1:30:38Speaker 1: want to be David do Brick. He's like a big
- 1:30:41Speaker 1: guy on YouTube. Okay, he does uh after Beast. He's
- 1:30:44Speaker 1: like a mister Beast type. He's not as big. Mister
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: Beast is like a planet. Yeah, but dough Brick's big,
- 1:30:50Speaker 1: you know, or whoever. Like they look at these young
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: and they entertain like younger people. He does fun videos
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: about like hey, whatever, I don't know that. You know,
- 1:30:58Speaker 1: it's always the same. It's like what if I fill
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: the pool with M and m's whatever. You know, It's
- 1:31:02Speaker 1: like that type of thing, you know. It's not like
- 1:31:05Speaker 1: the Ukraine deep dive or whatever. It's a fun, like
- 1:31:08Speaker 1: goofy thing and kids look at that and go, well,
- 1:31:10Speaker 1: that guy's making a lot of money. He has a
- 1:31:12Speaker 1: great car, he's got a hot girlfriend, he lives in
- 1:31:14Speaker 1: a big mansion. I want to be that guy, of course,
- 1:31:16Speaker 1: But I think they missed the idea that that guy
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: works really really hard, right, Like that's the thing that
- 1:31:22Speaker 1: I think people don't understand about these social media people.
- 1:31:26Speaker 1: They do have a crazy constitution in terms of like
- 1:31:32Speaker 1: how much they post how hard they work. Now you
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: might say, Okay, the stuff they do is ridiculous or
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: silly or not valuable. And I might agree on a
- 1:31:40Speaker 1: lot of those things, but they are always putting it out. Yeah,
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: they're showing up. They're always showing up. Yeah.
- 1:31:47Speaker 2: If you want to compete in any market, anything, no
- 1:31:49Speaker 2: matter what you do, there's a certain amount of work
- 1:31:51Speaker 2: you have to put in. The idea that's easy. There's
- 1:31:54Speaker 2: got to be some reason why most of them don't
- 1:31:57Speaker 2: rise to the top, right, what is it?
- 1:32:00Speaker 1: How do you feel about can you teach people to
- 1:32:02Speaker 1: work hard? I'm sure you can. What do you think
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: because I've seen so many people that are super talented,
- 1:32:10Speaker 1: but they, for whatever reason, they're not that muscle of
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: working hard or the dedication to it.
- 1:32:16Speaker 2: I think generally it has to be established early in
- 1:32:20Speaker 2: your life. And if you don't establish that early in
- 1:32:22Speaker 2: your life, it's not a thing that you gravitate towards.
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: Not you don't recognize that, oh, hard work eagles results.
- 1:32:30Speaker 2: You know, if you get lucky, you do sports, because
- 1:32:32Speaker 2: sports make me physically uncomfortable. They test your will. You know,
- 1:32:36Speaker 2: if you're a marathon runner and you got to get
- 1:32:39Speaker 2: up every day and do those fucking miles like that
- 1:32:41Speaker 2: will test your will. You know, if you're doing track
- 1:32:43Speaker 2: and field or football or anything you're doing where it's
- 1:32:46Speaker 2: a lot of work, like and then you realize, I've
- 1:32:49Speaker 2: gotten better because of all this work. And if I
- 1:32:51Speaker 2: work harder, maybe I could be the starting quarterback. I
- 1:32:54Speaker 2: work harder, maybe, And that's that's a real factor for
- 1:32:58Speaker 2: young kids. I think getting him into any sort of
- 1:33:01Speaker 2: difficult physical endeavor, whatever it is, competitive physical endeavors make you.
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: That's why I said that Sure Dance Moms was good.
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: That fat woman who screamed at those kids and demanded
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: greatness and would make them cry, I thought that was good.
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: You never saw a dance this woman, Abbey Miller. She
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: screamed at these young kids and one of them became
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: Jojo Sewst. So it's not like there was any damage done.
- 1:33:26Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I think it's good. I'd like
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: to see greatness demanded of children. This lady her, watch
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: this one here the envelope.
- 1:33:37Speaker 8: You will jump high, or you will turn faster, will
- 1:33:39Speaker 8: also act, you will sing. You're not just preparing for
- 1:33:44Speaker 8: a dance competition every weekend. We're preparing for you to
- 1:33:48Speaker 8: become stars in Los Angeles.
- 1:33:52Speaker 2: How does that bitch know how to be a star
- 1:33:53Speaker 2: in Los Angeles? Look at her.
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: She can't get a seat at Roscoe's. By the way,
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: I guarantee you she can to sit a Roscus. That
- 1:34:01Speaker 1: is the one place if you saw her, you wouldn't
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: sit her on Rascus the first thing I would kick
- 1:34:08Speaker 1: someone out for her in Rods. But yeah, but yeah,
- 1:34:12Speaker 1: it is interesting that a lot of these kids now
- 1:34:14Speaker 1: they just look at you know, the followers, and sure,
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: how do you feel about you're a parent? Do you
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: When the Jonathan Hyde book comes out and he goes,
- 1:34:23Speaker 1: we should get rid of phones for kids until they're sixteen,
- 1:34:26Speaker 1: does that make sense or not?
- 1:34:27Speaker 2: Really? No, because then you alienate your kids. It's a
- 1:34:31Speaker 2: new world that they have to learn how to navigate,
- 1:34:33Speaker 2: and if they don't learn how to navigate until they're eighteen,
- 1:34:35Speaker 2: they're at a huge disadvantage. They got to understand that
- 1:34:38Speaker 2: it's just people talking. But there's a lot of pressure.
- 1:34:42Speaker 2: Like for young girls, it's the worst time because they're
- 1:34:44Speaker 2: comparing themselves to all these other girls. You're seeing a
- 1:34:46Speaker 2: rise and eating disorders, self harm, suicide, suicide ideation, and
- 1:34:52Speaker 2: it's a lot of it is like they get depressed
- 1:34:54Speaker 2: comparing their life to other people. And when you're young
- 1:34:57Speaker 2: and you don't understand. You're thirteen, you don't get how
- 1:34:59Speaker 2: your mind works, and you're just sad every time you
- 1:35:01Speaker 2: open up your Instagram map and you don't look anything
- 1:35:04Speaker 2: like these ladies who don't look anything like that either, right,
- 1:35:07Speaker 2: which is really crazy, right, you know.
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: And your head is filled with all of this unhealthy thoughts.
- 1:35:15Speaker 2: I kind of got off social media for the most
- 1:35:17Speaker 2: part real recently, over the last few days. I'm barely
- 1:35:20Speaker 2: on it, and I feel better. I feel way more normal,
- 1:35:25Speaker 2: way more like not constantly like checking to see what's
- 1:35:28Speaker 2: going on, what's going on, what's going on, what's going on,
- 1:35:30Speaker 2: what's happening in the world. Instead, just like I'll find
- 1:35:34Speaker 2: the bad things. They'll come to me.
- 1:35:36Speaker 1: For sure, get it, They'll figure it out.
- 1:35:37Speaker 2: So I check in the morning, like make sure there's
- 1:35:40Speaker 2: no war going on, and then I go about my
- 1:35:42Speaker 2: day the whole day, and then maybe I check again
- 1:35:43Speaker 2: in the afternoon. Real quick. I'm not spending like massive
- 1:35:47Speaker 2: amounts of time anymore now, And because of that, I
- 1:35:49Speaker 2: feel better, and I'm like, Okay.
- 1:35:50Speaker 1: People that give up their phones always talk about that
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: how they hear birds and all this bullshit.
- 1:35:54Speaker 2: You know, Well, you feel better, you feel like there's
- 1:35:57Speaker 2: not this low hum of one ring what's going on
- 1:36:00Speaker 2: in the world all the time, and wondering who's saying
- 1:36:02Speaker 2: this and why are they doing that? And how's the
- 1:36:04Speaker 2: what's the new thing, what's this?
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: What's that? It is good to detach. It is interesting.
- 1:36:09Speaker 1: Imagine if you just didn't even engage, like didn't really
- 1:36:12Speaker 1: luck weren't in it at all, probably fois way better
- 1:36:16Speaker 1: for you. So you think it would be miserable to
- 1:36:19Speaker 1: just be happy somewhere.
- 1:36:21Speaker 2: Woody Harrelson doesn't even have a phone really on that phone,
- 1:36:24Speaker 2: doesn't have an email.
- 1:36:24Speaker 1: No. No.
- 1:36:25Speaker 2: When he showed up at the club, you just sort
- 1:36:27Speaker 2: of showed up. They said, what do you Harrelson's here? Like, okay,
- 1:36:30Speaker 2: let him in. I wanted to come and hang out.
- 1:36:32Speaker 2: Knew I was there, could just wow, find you and
- 1:36:34Speaker 2: hang out with you. Yeah, he's like he's smart and
- 1:36:37Speaker 2: he doesn't build Murray's the same way, doesn't connect to
- 1:36:40Speaker 2: any He said, I had to get a phone because
- 1:36:41Speaker 2: my kids text, So I text my kids and that's
- 1:36:44Speaker 2: it smart.
- 1:36:46Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so smart. You don't want to be connected.
- 1:36:49Speaker 2: You don't want to be connecting, kind of have to
- 1:36:51Speaker 2: be if you're a young comic.
- 1:36:52Speaker 1: You have to be connected because you have to build
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: followers to get booked. Now because these clubs are like
- 1:36:58Speaker 1: we got to book people with followers, you're not necessarily
- 1:37:00Speaker 1: looking at who's working harder, who's good. And I feel
- 1:37:03Speaker 1: for a lot of younger people because they have to Yeah,
- 1:37:07Speaker 1: you know, they have to have a social media presence
- 1:37:09Speaker 1: early on, maybe even before they figured out what they
- 1:37:11Speaker 1: want to say, maybe you know, before they figured out
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: how to say it the right way. For sure, they
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: have to have the social media presence. And I think
- 1:37:18Speaker 1: people become and it's a dopamine hit right to do things.
- 1:37:22Speaker 1: I get it, like you get followers, you get rewarded.
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: It's a whole system. But it also could take over your.
- 1:37:27Speaker 2: Life, take over your life and you and I well
- 1:37:31Speaker 2: me more so than you grew up without it and
- 1:37:33Speaker 2: then it came on later in life, Like how old
- 1:37:35Speaker 2: were you when you first got online?
- 1:37:36Speaker 1: Dude, I had a BlackBerry? I was. I was working
- 1:37:38Speaker 1: in my early twenties out with a BlackBerry. And that's
- 1:37:40Speaker 1: very different than an iphond.
- 1:37:42Speaker 2: Sure, that's emails.
- 1:37:43Speaker 1: It's emails. So we're getting emails from our business, from
- 1:37:46Speaker 1: our like our manager at work and will you fucking
- 1:37:48Speaker 1: losers do something like things like that because we couldn't
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: sell anybody. I remember seeing.
- 1:37:53Speaker 2: People with blackberries in the early days of tech, going, man,
- 1:37:57Speaker 2: that seems really addictive.
- 1:37:59Speaker 1: Ye could take a shitty photo and send it to someone,
- 1:38:03Speaker 1: could email a photo. You would take a and the
- 1:38:05Speaker 1: photos were like terrible quality. Yeah, but just the idea
- 1:38:08Speaker 1: of like at your job, just sending someone an email
- 1:38:11Speaker 1: photo was a hilarious Like being out somewhere and taking
- 1:38:15Speaker 1: a photo and emailing it to somebody, going fuck you,
- 1:38:16Speaker 1: I'm not at work. That was fun.
- 1:38:18Speaker 2: The thing was, though, that they couldn't escape the emails,
- 1:38:21Speaker 2: the emails they were constantly checking, and I was like, oh, well,
- 1:38:24Speaker 2: this is like super addictive. Like these guys that I
- 1:38:27Speaker 2: work with on fear fact, they were always on their blackberries.
- 1:38:29Speaker 1: There was a New York City realtor, This lady, Dolly Lenz,
- 1:38:31Speaker 1: was like the top realtor in New York City. Famously
- 1:38:33Speaker 1: she did a BlackBerry commercial. She famous had like eight
- 1:38:36Speaker 1: blackberries because she would just get all these contracts and stuff.
- 1:38:39Speaker 1: She would like hand them out to our assistants and stuff,
- 1:38:40Speaker 1: and they would respond to over She would get over
- 1:38:42Speaker 1: seven hundred emails a day. At the height of her things,
- 1:38:45Speaker 1: she was selling all this real estate so black. That
- 1:38:48Speaker 1: was the first time. I didn't have a smartphone in
- 1:38:51Speaker 1: junior high or high school. Ah, that's nice. I had
- 1:38:54Speaker 1: like a flip phone. People had raisor phones. I didn't
- 1:38:56Speaker 1: even have that ad like a Sprint LG.
- 1:38:58Speaker 2: Or some bullshit.
- 1:39:00Speaker 1: And then I got Blackberries, and I think my first
- 1:39:02Speaker 1: iPhone is like in my twenty, like mid twenties. Yeah,
- 1:39:05Speaker 1: that's good. It wasn't I wasn't like connected like that. Yeah.
- 1:39:09Speaker 2: These kids are connected from the time they're six years old.
- 1:39:11Speaker 1: And I mean my god son, he's like four years
- 1:39:13Speaker 1: old and he has an iPad. They just give him
- 1:39:15Speaker 1: an iPad.
- 1:39:16Speaker 2: Yeah, they just sit in front of the pad with
- 1:39:17Speaker 2: they go to a restaurant, they set it up in
- 1:39:19Speaker 2: front of the kids.
- 1:39:19Speaker 1: They and he just sits there and he does I
- 1:39:22Speaker 1: don't know what he's watching, Goazam. Maybe I don't know
- 1:39:25Speaker 1: what he's doing. No one knows either. They just I
- 1:39:28Speaker 1: don't know what he's found.
- 1:39:29Speaker 2: You know.
- 1:39:30Speaker 1: That's the other thing. You hope, like best case, he's
- 1:39:32Speaker 1: playing some game.
- 1:39:33Speaker 2: But well, for boys, they immediately start jerking off. Interesting
- 1:39:36Speaker 2: the moment they could find porns, like they tell them.
- 1:39:39Speaker 1: That's the other thing. Like, I feel like that's also
- 1:39:41Speaker 1: damaged people's no doubt. Dad damaged people's ability to, like,
- 1:39:46Speaker 1: no doubt go out and meet a woman.
- 1:39:49Speaker 2: And that's why they're not meeting women. Like the number
- 1:39:51Speaker 2: of inceels today is off the charts. The number of
- 1:39:53Speaker 2: men that don't have sex at all, it's some crazy
- 1:39:56Speaker 2: it's like fifty.
- 1:39:57Speaker 1: And the porn is not even regular porn anymore. Lot
- 1:39:59Speaker 1: is like hyper islent, sadistic, crazy porn.
- 1:40:02Speaker 2: Really, that's what they say.
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: What you're searching for, people's heads are getting going through
- 1:40:07Speaker 1: glass tables. No, but that's what like when you have
- 1:40:09Speaker 1: these articles that are written about this, they say, it's
- 1:40:11Speaker 1: not only that they're watching porn. It's the type of porn.
- 1:40:14Speaker 1: It's not like regular porn. Oh god, it's like crazy
- 1:40:17Speaker 1: shit and it warps their fucking brain.
- 1:40:20Speaker 2: I heard the dumbest argument on Twitter the other day.
- 1:40:23Speaker 2: Someone was saying that they should create CGI child porn
- 1:40:26Speaker 2: to protect real children from child porn.
- 1:40:29Speaker 1: You should probably search that person searches thory. So I
- 1:40:32Speaker 1: was like, this is at that's an interesting argument. You
- 1:40:37Speaker 1: should have AI child porn.
- 1:40:38Speaker 2: Well, I think that argument is like they've kind of
- 1:40:42Speaker 2: just sex.
- 1:40:42Speaker 1: Doll argument, right, didn't they have like that argument for
- 1:40:45Speaker 1: a thing?
- 1:40:46Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it's part of the same type of.
- 1:40:49Speaker 2: There's the same type of thinking.
- 1:40:50Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:40:50Speaker 2: I think generally that argument is created by people who
- 1:40:53Speaker 2: aren't pedophiles because they're trying to figure out, well, maybe
- 1:40:55Speaker 2: this is a solution.
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: Well you're not thinking. And they're also like, I'll make
- 1:40:58Speaker 1: some money with this kid, sex doll. But what a
- 1:41:00Speaker 1: weird way to make a fortune, What an odd way
- 1:41:03Speaker 1: to make a fortune. I made a little bit of money.
- 1:41:05Speaker 1: What'd you do? Don't worry the perfect eleven year old boy, butthole,
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: don't worry about it?
- 1:41:11Speaker 2: What did you do?
- 1:41:12Speaker 1: I can't sex thus anyway? Have you been of the
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: Four Seasons and ken kom Jesus?
- 1:41:18Speaker 2: It's crazy?
- 1:41:19Speaker 1: Well, we're getting to a point where the world is
- 1:41:21Speaker 1: really scary but also equally unbelievable and absurd, So you
- 1:41:27Speaker 1: have the it's funny but it's also insane, And I
- 1:41:31Speaker 1: think people are like, we don't know what's real anymore.
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: These AI videos come out and you don't know what's exact,
- 1:41:37Speaker 1: what's real, and what's not. The deep fakes are getting better.
- 1:41:41Speaker 1: That seems to be one of the biggest problems that
- 1:41:43Speaker 1: no one talks about, is like reality seems to be splintering.
- 1:41:48Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, reality splintering, and then AI is about to
- 1:41:51Speaker 2: take over our lives and we're openly cheering it, right,
- 1:41:55Speaker 2: and the world will never be the same again once
- 1:41:56Speaker 2: it does, and we're welcoming it.
- 1:41:59Speaker 1: Ironically, comedians seem to be somewhat in the in the
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: safer group of people in way, like perspective seems like
- 1:42:10Speaker 1: maybe one of the harder things for AI to grasp.
- 1:42:13Speaker 2: Well, it's also live performance as the last human stand, right,
- 1:42:20Speaker 2: you know, where you could go and see something, you know,
- 1:42:23Speaker 2: you go see a guy actually play a guitar. You know,
- 1:42:25Speaker 2: that's that's so much different, and that that's a real
- 1:42:29Speaker 2: human experience, live sporting events, you know, like real things,
- 1:42:33Speaker 2: things that are real. You know, that's that's gonna be
- 1:42:36Speaker 2: That's gonna be the hardest to be replaced by AI,
- 1:42:40Speaker 2: because you know, you could replace us on podcasts. You
- 1:42:43Speaker 2: essentially could take my perspectives that have shared over the
- 1:42:46Speaker 2: past two thousand plus episodes and run it through a
- 1:42:49Speaker 2: large language model and use AI and have me have
- 1:42:53Speaker 2: a podcast with basically anybody.
- 1:42:54Speaker 1: It's such a crazy library you have. It's like, I
- 1:42:56Speaker 1: wonder what you did with then an interesting it's a
- 1:43:02Speaker 1: great question, sell it to China. What if after Spotify
- 1:43:06Speaker 1: you go to China. Yeah, that's a great idea. Chat
- 1:43:10Speaker 1: it would be actually a great idea if you just
- 1:43:12Speaker 1: sit down and nothing's changing about the podcast. It's still
- 1:43:14Speaker 1: going to be free. It's just going to be in Mandarin.
- 1:43:16Speaker 1: It's owned by the Chinese government. But it's the same podcast.
- 1:43:20Speaker 1: Don't worry about it's the same show it's always been.
- 1:43:22Speaker 1: You guys known me. I won't change. Yeah, your first
- 1:43:24Speaker 1: gas is jack Ma tell me what happened with Ali? Yeah?
- 1:43:30Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy. It's a place i'd like to go.
- 1:43:32Speaker 1: I've never been to China. I'd like to cuts. Yeah,
- 1:43:34Speaker 1: I would do it. That it would because just an
- 1:43:38Speaker 1: ad cuts, just an ad which is cut you go.
- 1:43:40Speaker 1: It's the same podcast it's always been. It's now thirty
- 1:43:43Speaker 1: seven minutes because China's taken out all the something a lot.
- 1:43:48Speaker 1: I'd love to go to China just to access websites
- 1:43:50Speaker 1: and go what can you really say? Right? That would
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: be super fascinating to be in China. Going like, what
- 1:43:55Speaker 1: are you allowed? What is block? Do they use VPNs
- 1:43:59Speaker 1: in China's successfully?
- 1:44:00Speaker 2: Is that possible?
- 1:44:01Speaker 1: Probably right, they have to, Maybe not, I don't know.
- 1:44:03Speaker 1: I don't know. North Korea seems to block everything, like
- 1:44:06Speaker 1: certain countries can do a lot.
- 1:44:07Speaker 2: Yeah, they have their own internet, right, like you can
- 1:44:10Speaker 2: only get on their internet.
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but that seems to make sense.
- 1:44:13Speaker 2: That's according to people that have been there. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:44:17Speaker 2: they have.
- 1:44:17Speaker 1: Their own internet.
- 1:44:18Speaker 2: Like just can you use a VPN in China to
- 1:44:22Speaker 2: access the Internet of the world. Let's search that.
- 1:44:25Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be interesting. I need to know because so
- 1:44:27Speaker 1: many people, I believe, are very limited with what they
- 1:44:32Speaker 1: can access.
- 1:44:33Speaker 2: Many, many, many people in the world are very limited. Well,
- 1:44:36Speaker 2: look at the UK. They're just arresting people for Facebook
- 1:44:38Speaker 2: posts that they're going.
- 1:44:40Speaker 1: One of the crazier things in modern life is that
- 1:44:46Speaker 1: people are getting arrested over social media.
- 1:44:48Speaker 2: And not really bad stuff.
- 1:44:51Speaker 1: It's saying things that someone finds immigrants.
- 1:44:53Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of stuff. Yes, some VPNs work in China,
- 1:44:56Speaker 2: but their effectiveness varies due to the country's strict Internet censorship.
- 1:44:59Speaker 2: No as the Great Firewall, Chinese government actively blocks many
- 1:45:03Speaker 2: VPN services and only a few reliable ones consistently bypassed restrictions.
- 1:45:08Speaker 2: VPNs like ExpressVPN, NordVPN, surf shark are often cited as effective,
- 1:45:13Speaker 2: but they require specific configuration eg. Obfuscated servers or protocols
- 1:45:19Speaker 2: like OpenVPN to evade detection. Performance can be inconsistent with
- 1:45:23Speaker 2: slow downs or temporary blocks being heightened censorship. During heightened
- 1:45:28Speaker 2: censorship periods such as political events, China occasionally cracks down
- 1:45:32Speaker 2: a VPN uses, targeting both the providers and individual users,
- 1:45:36Speaker 2: though enforcement against foreigners is typically lenient, focusing on warnings
- 1:45:41Speaker 2: rather than severe penalties. Using a VPN as technically ill
- 1:45:45Speaker 2: illegal for accessing block content, but millions, including expats and locals,
- 1:45:50Speaker 2: use them daily.
- 1:45:52Speaker 1: Boy, that's a risky move. I think they're banning this
- 1:45:55Speaker 1: stuff in the UK because I don't think they want
- 1:45:59Speaker 1: people to persist in this, in this idea that you
- 1:46:12Speaker 1: know that they have any ability to challenge this prevailing
- 1:46:18Speaker 1: narrative that any critique of immigration is an inherently racist thing.
- 1:46:25Speaker 1: And I think the people that are sponsoring its kind
- 1:46:27Speaker 1: of an odious thing. And it's because what they're doing
- 1:46:31Speaker 1: is they're they're basically e miserating these people. They're making
- 1:46:35Speaker 1: the quality of their life much worse. They're losing ground,
- 1:46:40Speaker 1: and if they speak up about it, they're called, you know, huge,
- 1:46:44Speaker 1: horrible names, and then they're and arrested. So it's crazy
- 1:46:49Speaker 1: and they don't understand why it's happening. They're they're not
- 1:46:54Speaker 1: completely they're very confused about why. You know, a lot
- 1:47:00Speaker 1: of these countries didn't take any Syrian refugees, but Europe did,
- 1:47:06Speaker 1: and Scandinavia did, the Netherlands did, and they're confused about that,
- 1:47:11Speaker 1: and they're asking questions and going why is that the case?
- 1:47:15Speaker 1: And they're confused about why when any disruption happens, and
- 1:47:25Speaker 1: it's clearly the result of bringing in large numbers of
- 1:47:29Speaker 1: people who are not familiar with the laws of the country,
- 1:47:32Speaker 1: the culture of the country. When anything happens and they
- 1:47:35Speaker 1: bring it up, they're again called a racist or you know,
- 1:47:39Speaker 1: an extremist, or they're arrested. So it's good and then
- 1:47:43Speaker 1: who's doing it right? So you have the people like
- 1:47:45Speaker 1: the people clearly that are in the government and these
- 1:47:48Speaker 1: incredibly wealthy business interests that want people to work for
- 1:47:52Speaker 1: a lot less money and they want to destroy people's
- 1:47:56Speaker 1: social bonds because I think They really do want people
- 1:48:00Speaker 1: to eventually just accept this kind of totalitarian surveillance state.
- 1:48:04Speaker 1: And the way to get them there is by breaking
- 1:48:09Speaker 1: the spirit of these countries, by destroying any social bonds
- 1:48:13Speaker 1: that people have, and destroying any economic power, and destroying
- 1:48:17Speaker 1: their belief in the democratic process. And if they can
- 1:48:20Speaker 1: do that, and they can break people, they can get
- 1:48:22Speaker 1: them to do anything they want.
- 1:48:23Speaker 2: Do you think they're doing this in preparation for AI
- 1:48:26Speaker 2: I think they're doing it in preparation for not only
- 1:48:28Speaker 2: technological advancements.
- 1:48:29Speaker 1: I think they're doing it in preparation for world wars.
- 1:48:35Speaker 1: I think they are doing it in preparation for a
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: lot of things. I think they'll conscript a lot of
- 1:48:39Speaker 1: these people into the military. I believe that. I believe
- 1:48:43Speaker 1: they'll conscript a lot of these people into the military.
- 1:48:45Speaker 1: I think they're looking at populations. I think they're looking
- 1:48:49Speaker 1: at people not having enough children. I think they're saying,
- 1:48:52Speaker 1: who's going to fight these wars, who's going to do
- 1:48:55Speaker 1: these really shitty jobs. And we're going to go build
- 1:48:58Speaker 1: houses in bunkers and all of this stuff. We're gonna
- 1:49:02Speaker 1: fly private and we're gonna have our kids go to
- 1:49:04Speaker 1: completely separate schools, and we're gonna have our own water
- 1:49:07Speaker 1: aquifiers and have a compound. But why do you need
- 1:49:11Speaker 1: all these low age people in your country that are
- 1:49:13Speaker 1: illegal and don't have any power, as anyone asked that question,
- 1:49:17Speaker 1: seems very obvious. They're gonna conscript a lot of them
- 1:49:20Speaker 1: into the military, and a lot of them are gonna
- 1:49:22Speaker 1: do shitty, horrible jobs, and they're gonna use them as
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: cannon fodder in wars that enrich lots of people. That
- 1:49:27Speaker 1: would be my guess, Jesus Christ. Yeah, I might be wrong.
- 1:49:37Speaker 2: But and if AI does become the governing factor of
- 1:49:43Speaker 2: the world, which probably will, it doesn't really make sense
- 1:49:47Speaker 2: you let humans with all the corruption and emotions, govern
- 1:49:50Speaker 2: things when you can let super intelligence.
- 1:49:53Speaker 1: Yeah, but who's making that intelligence? That's what comes to
- 1:49:55Speaker 1: pre exactly.
- 1:49:56Speaker 2: But once you've already gotten people locked into compliance, and
- 1:50:00Speaker 2: you've already got people where they're terrified to protest against anything, immigration,
- 1:50:04Speaker 2: whatever it is, then you could you can get a
- 1:50:08Speaker 2: little way.
- 1:50:08Speaker 1: With a lot more. There was a decision made because
- 1:50:11Speaker 1: the populist Democrats during the nineties, which was like Bill Clinton,
- 1:50:18Speaker 1: you know, critical of immigration, Barack Obama critical of immigration,
- 1:50:21Speaker 1: deported a lot of people Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton. What
- 1:50:24Speaker 1: started to happen though, is there was a decision made
- 1:50:28Speaker 1: that the world was going to kind of be a
- 1:50:30Speaker 1: borderless place where countries were interchangeable, and that the nation
- 1:50:38Speaker 1: states mattered a lot less than the financial architecture of
- 1:50:45Speaker 1: global capital and where it could go. And you need
- 1:50:47Speaker 1: a world government, and you need a government that is
- 1:50:50Speaker 1: a world government or the closest world order, the closest
- 1:50:53Speaker 1: thing you can get to it, which is having an
- 1:50:55Speaker 1: EU right right, and then having a government between in
- 1:51:00Speaker 1: the UK and the US that's pretty on the same
- 1:51:02Speaker 1: page about everything. And then you have Israel in the Middleast,
- 1:51:05Speaker 1: and then you have you know, all of these you know,
- 1:51:08Speaker 1: disparate areas that we kind of control through economic means
- 1:51:12Speaker 1: or military means and stuff like that. And then you
- 1:51:14Speaker 1: have outliers. You have China, Iran, Russia, you know whatever,
- 1:51:18Speaker 1: people that haven't gotten the memo for whatever reason. I
- 1:51:20Speaker 1: don't want to live in any of those places. That's
- 1:51:22Speaker 1: the argument. They'll go, well, do you want to live
- 1:51:23Speaker 1: in it? Shut up? That's what are we idiots? I
- 1:51:26Speaker 1: don't want to live in any of those places. But
- 1:51:27Speaker 1: they're not. On day they didn't get the memo. So
- 1:51:31Speaker 1: and then in all of these countries, by the way,
- 1:51:33Speaker 1: in Europe, in America, not so much. Israel they don't
- 1:51:35Speaker 1: love the immigration, as we can see, they're kind of
- 1:51:38Speaker 1: big on the borders. Israel they like the borders. But
- 1:51:42Speaker 1: in America and Europe and Scandinavian, all these countries, the
- 1:51:45Speaker 1: populations were just told to accept massively high levels of
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: immigration over a very short period of time. That's odd,
- 1:51:55Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense. And if you point that out,
- 1:51:59Speaker 1: your cold as an extremist, and that's a very strange thing.
- 1:52:03Speaker 1: What are you doing with all these people? You can't
- 1:52:05Speaker 1: The Biden administration brought in ten million people over four years.
- 1:52:09Speaker 1: What are they here for. There's not enough jobs for
- 1:52:12Speaker 1: the people that are here. We have vast chasms of
- 1:52:15Speaker 1: wealth inequality. We have AI coming, we have automation coming.
- 1:52:18Speaker 1: Why would you bring in all of these people? What
- 1:52:20Speaker 1: are you trying to do? What do you think they're
- 1:52:22Speaker 1: trying to do? I think that exactly what I said.
- 1:52:24Speaker 1: I think they need bodies. I think they need canon fodder.
- 1:52:28Speaker 1: I think they need to break the idea of any
- 1:52:33Speaker 1: social bonds that exists between people.
- 1:52:35Speaker 2: You know, listen, and they need a little chaos.
- 1:52:37Speaker 1: They need a little chaos. I think you bring more laws. Yeah,
- 1:52:40Speaker 1: you bring in people, more surveillance, more dependence on the government.
- 1:52:44Speaker 1: You get people out of the idea. You know, they
- 1:52:46Speaker 1: got people out of the idea years ago that you
- 1:52:48Speaker 1: could barely you can't really, it's very hard to have
- 1:52:50Speaker 1: your own business. Now they've pretty much extinguished that in
- 1:52:53Speaker 1: people's heads, even though there are people that still do it. Now,
- 1:52:57Speaker 1: I think they're going to start to extinguish the idea
- 1:52:58Speaker 1: that you can have home, you can own property, that
- 1:53:02Speaker 1: you could drive a car, that you can do all
- 1:53:04Speaker 1: of these things. That you're going to extinguish that idea.
- 1:53:07Speaker 1: And they're gonna do that because why why not control everybody?
- 1:53:12Speaker 1: It would be all way mos. Yeah, that's the that's
- 1:53:15Speaker 1: the thing. Why not control everybody? Yeah?
- 1:53:16Speaker 2: Why would you let everybody just go run rampant and
- 1:53:19Speaker 2: fuck up your business?
- 1:53:20Speaker 1: Yeah. So they're basically like, we got to pacify these people.
- 1:53:24Speaker 1: The conflicts seem inevitable, and we're gonna have to fight
- 1:53:28Speaker 1: these wars. The good news is a lot of the
- 1:53:35Speaker 1: people who are doing this, their children are now doing
- 1:53:37Speaker 1: stand up common So if they're unable or any of
- 1:53:41Speaker 1: them any good. If they're I think some of them,
- 1:53:44Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure.
- 1:53:45Speaker 2: Have you seen any of them that are any good?
- 1:53:47Speaker 1: I haven't seen a ton. It's just it's one of
- 1:53:49Speaker 1: those things that you hear now more than ever when
- 1:53:52Speaker 1: you're talking with young comic and they go and I'm
- 1:53:53Speaker 1: hanging out with this person. I go, yeah, And they
- 1:53:55Speaker 1: go and their dad owns this. You go really yeah,
- 1:53:59Speaker 1: Just so curious thing. Obviously, anyone in the world should
- 1:54:02Speaker 1: be able to do comedy as much as they want.
- 1:54:03Speaker 1: But it's funny to me, as somebody who just looks
- 1:54:05Speaker 1: at these configurations of power and wealth, it's kind of
- 1:54:08Speaker 1: interesting that a lot of these kids are like doing that.
- 1:54:10Speaker 1: It's just fun.
- 1:54:11Speaker 2: Have you ever met from a really wealthy background that
- 1:54:14Speaker 2: was good at stand up?
- 1:54:15Speaker 1: No? I mean not there. Yes, yes, there are.
- 1:54:18Speaker 2: Some of them, for sure, you've met them.
- 1:54:20Speaker 1: I've not met them. They probably don't like may panicorns. Yeah,
- 1:54:23Speaker 1: they're they're around, and yes, yes, very wealthy, but I'm
- 1:54:26Speaker 1: talking about like weird, kind of interesting levels of wealth
- 1:54:30Speaker 1: and power. That's interesting. That's super interesting to me. But
- 1:54:37Speaker 1: so the good news is if they can't get this done,
- 1:54:39Speaker 1: seeing their kids won't because their kids will be at
- 1:54:41Speaker 1: fucking side splitters in Tampa, or they'll be podcasting, or
- 1:54:43Speaker 1: they'll be podcasting.
- 1:54:44Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll all get together become isn't it.
- 1:54:47Speaker 1: Funny how much they they now they now focus really
- 1:54:49Speaker 1: on podcasters, but they ignore all the things, all the
- 1:54:52Speaker 1: people that we're talking about. They none of that. There's
- 1:54:55Speaker 1: no they don't report on any of those people. No,
- 1:54:57Speaker 1: there's ten million articles about.
- 1:54:59Speaker 2: The having can so's on that, right.
- 1:55:02Speaker 1: But but there's no articles about, like again, the people
- 1:55:06Speaker 1: that seemed to be running and like owning all of
- 1:55:09Speaker 1: our resources. You think someone would write about the people
- 1:55:13Speaker 1: that own a lot of the resources on the planet
- 1:55:17Speaker 1: we live.
- 1:55:18Speaker 2: That's complicated. Did you see that crazy thing that the
- 1:55:20Speaker 2: government talked about yesterday? They had a press conference where
- 1:55:23Speaker 2: they said that we can manipulate time and space.
- 1:55:26Speaker 1: No, did you see that, Jameis I didn't see that.
- 1:55:28Speaker 3: It's written weird.
- 1:55:30Speaker 1: Yea that got that got lost in the shuffle.
- 1:55:34Speaker 2: Yeah, the manipulation of time and space. See if you
- 1:55:37Speaker 2: can find it, Jamie, because it's really cooky, it's really kooky.
- 1:55:46Speaker 2: Can you I don't know what he was saying, play it,
- 1:55:51Speaker 2: play it so we can hear him say.
- 1:55:52Speaker 3: I don't think anybody said it. It was written on a website.
- 1:55:54Speaker 1: But did he say it in that speech?
- 1:55:56Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what that speech was.
- 1:55:57Speaker 1: No, No, it's the guy above you right there. I
- 1:55:59Speaker 1: know it.
- 1:56:01Speaker 3: This isn't going to play that.
- 1:56:02Speaker 1: You don't think so?
- 1:56:03Speaker 3: Ad first?
- 1:56:04Speaker 2: Okay, let let the ad play out.
- 1:56:06Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure secret CIA files claim the arc of
- 1:56:09Speaker 1: the Covenant has been found.
- 1:56:11Speaker 2: The clicking on that next.
- 1:56:14Speaker 1: There's certainly a lot going. It's a big week.
- 1:56:20Speaker 9: Regulatory regime in the nineteen seventies became an ever tightening ratchet,
- 1:56:25Speaker 9: first hampering America's ability to become a net energy exporter
- 1:56:28Speaker 9: and then making it harder and harder to build. We
- 1:56:32Speaker 9: seem to have lost focus in vision. We've lowered our
- 1:56:36Speaker 9: sites and let systems and structures and bureaucracies muddle us along.
- 1:56:41Speaker 9: But we are capable of so much more. Our technologies
- 1:56:45Speaker 9: permit us to manipulate time and space. They leave distance
- 1:56:48Speaker 9: annihilated caustings to grow and improve productivity.
- 1:56:52Speaker 1: Okay, that's not what I said. You know what, I think,
- 1:56:56Speaker 1: manipulate time and space. I don't think that's what he's saying. No,
- 1:56:59Speaker 1: I think he's saying like that, you're able to do
- 1:57:01Speaker 1: things instantaneously. Instantaneously, Yeah, yeah, instantly. Yeah.
- 1:57:05Speaker 2: I don't think I think people have reading into that
- 1:57:07Speaker 2: too much.
- 1:57:07Speaker 1: I don't think he's time machines. No, but I do
- 1:57:10Speaker 1: believe that time machines had ever at any point worked.
- 1:57:14Speaker 2: No, No, I do not. I do not think that
- 1:57:16Speaker 2: anyone is currently in possession of a time machine. But
- 1:57:18Speaker 2: I do think they're in possession of some sort of
- 1:57:20Speaker 2: a gravity drive.
- 1:57:21Speaker 1: Now, what is a gravity drive?
- 1:57:23Speaker 2: I think during the nineteen forties they started working on
- 1:57:25Speaker 2: this stuff. They're in the nineteen fifties. There was papers
- 1:57:28Speaker 2: written about it that they were working on gravity propulsion systems.
- 1:57:31Speaker 2: They were working on something that harnesses what do they
- 1:57:35Speaker 2: call it background energy? I forget what, but the idea is.
- 1:57:38Speaker 2: And I actually had a conversation with Hal put Off
- 1:57:40Speaker 2: about this. There's a legitimate scientist who worked for NASA
- 1:57:43Speaker 2: with the UFO program, and he believes that they're capable
- 1:57:49Speaker 2: of developing some sort of a warp drive. And there
- 1:57:52Speaker 2: was something written about this. There's some breakthrough about warp
- 1:57:55Speaker 2: drives recently, right, we.
- 1:57:56Speaker 1: Talked about this. I think they have something.
- 1:57:59Speaker 2: I think they have something. I think that's what a
- 1:58:00Speaker 2: lot of these people are seeing when they're seeing these
- 1:58:03Speaker 2: trans medium crafts that are going through the air at
- 1:58:06Speaker 2: high rates of speed, going into the water, not losing
- 1:58:08Speaker 2: any speed coming out of the water, not making any splashes.
- 1:58:11Speaker 2: I think it creates a gravity distortion around whatever these
- 1:58:15Speaker 2: things are that allows it to move in a way
- 1:58:19Speaker 2: that's very different than any other propulsion system that we
- 1:58:22Speaker 2: are currently aware of. And I think the government has
- 1:58:25Speaker 2: been probably secretly working on this stuff for decades.
- 1:58:29Speaker 1: That's what I think. I could be wrong, but that's
- 1:58:32Speaker 1: the dark angle of like having a really really underground
- 1:58:41Speaker 1: you know, weapons system, futuristic technologies and space travels and
- 1:58:47Speaker 1: space travels, and you know, ideally they would be able
- 1:58:50Speaker 1: to use this to mine asteroids.
- 1:58:53Speaker 2: You know, they have something instantaneously port to an asteroid,
- 1:58:56Speaker 2: scoop up rare Earth minerals and expensive things that they
- 1:59:00Speaker 2: need on Earth, shoot it back to Earth.
- 1:59:03Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's interesting. So the people who work in
- 1:59:06Speaker 1: that type of arena are just so many layers above
- 1:59:10Speaker 1: top secret, levels above top secret exactly, they barely exist.
- 1:59:13Speaker 2: This guy was telling me that in twenty fifteen they
- 1:59:16Speaker 2: had landed something on an asteroid, extracted something from that
- 1:59:19Speaker 2: asteroid and then have that thing leave the asteroid and
- 1:59:21Speaker 2: return to Earth and then pinpointed the location where it
- 1:59:24Speaker 2: was going to crash land or land rather within one mile,
- 1:59:28Speaker 2: and that somehow or another they figured this out a
- 1:59:31Speaker 2: decade ago, and that we don't know about it, but
- 1:59:34Speaker 2: they have. There's footage of this stuff, and that they've
- 1:59:37Speaker 2: been able to achieve this, and that there's what you
- 1:59:42Speaker 2: hear and what you see on television and what they're
- 1:59:44Speaker 2: actually capable of and because of national security interests, because
- 1:59:48Speaker 2: you know, fill in the blank, misallocation of funds in
- 1:59:51Speaker 2: order to acquire this technology, which is one hundred percent
- 1:59:54Speaker 2: what they're all talking about, right, Jamie and I that
- 1:59:58Speaker 2: what is that documentary we saw?
- 2:00:01Speaker 3: Shit, it's not released yet because it was.
- 2:00:05Speaker 2: A right Southwest we saw it south by Southwest is
- 2:00:08Speaker 2: documentary that's all about that subject, and it's all about
- 2:00:12Speaker 2: how there's a lot of issues because these people have
- 2:00:15Speaker 2: all misappropriated funds, so they've lied to Congress, so they
- 2:00:19Speaker 2: and then on top of that, if you do have
- 2:00:21Speaker 2: this sort of a program and it is based on
- 2:00:23Speaker 2: back engineering UFOs that have crashed, though who gets that, Well,
- 2:00:28Speaker 2: it's probably a weapons manufacturing company. So if it's a
- 2:00:31Speaker 2: weapons manufacturing company, which company gets access to that? And
- 2:00:35Speaker 2: the other ones could probably sue you because why did not?
- 2:00:38Speaker 2: That's a huge competitive advantage to have fucking alien technology
- 2:00:42Speaker 2: that you can do these things, not land in China.
- 2:00:45Speaker 2: Age of Disclosure is the unprecedented revelatory documentary featuring thirty
- 2:00:51Speaker 2: four senior members of the US government, military, and intelligence community,
- 2:00:54Speaker 2: reveals that an eighty year old cover up the existence
- 2:00:57Speaker 2: of non human intelligent life and a secret war amongst
- 2:01:00Speaker 2: major nations to reverse engineer technology of non human origin.
- 2:01:04Speaker 2: See I don't even know if that part is true. Yeah,
- 2:01:07Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 2:01:07Speaker 1: Who is the most credible person that you've had on
- 2:01:10Speaker 1: the show over the years, Who has talked the most convincingly?
- 2:01:16Speaker 1: Was it pob Blazar about Babozar.
- 2:01:18Speaker 2: Is one of them, but he's, you know, technically speaking,
- 2:01:22Speaker 2: you could kind of discredit a lot of the stuff
- 2:01:24Speaker 2: that he said. Jacques Valet is probably the most reasonable,
- 2:01:27Speaker 2: and he's the guy that they patterned that French scientists
- 2:01:30Speaker 2: and close encounters of the third con On and he's
- 2:01:33Speaker 2: studying this from is the sixties believer.
- 2:01:35Speaker 1: Yeah, he believes.
- 2:01:37Speaker 2: He thinks most of it's bullshit, though he thinks most
- 2:01:40Speaker 2: of it is people misunderstanding what they're looking at, people seeing,
- 2:01:44Speaker 2: you know, some sort of a test vehicle.
- 2:01:46Speaker 1: Does he have any theory on where these crafts are
- 2:01:51Speaker 1: coming from? Or is that just completely beyond the scope.
- 2:01:54Speaker 2: Of what he They do theorize They theorize that these
- 2:01:57Speaker 2: things have always been here, and that they're probably inter
- 2:02:00Speaker 2: dimensional travelers. That it's not as simple as they're coming
- 2:02:03Speaker 2: from another planet. They might be coming from a whole
- 2:02:06Speaker 2: other reality, and then they might have shaped our reality.
- 2:02:09Speaker 2: That this might be a farm, This might be a
- 2:02:12Speaker 2: giant ant farm, that this is. This might be also
- 2:02:16Speaker 2: how intelligent life gets sort of seeded throughout the universe.
- 2:02:20Speaker 2: And this would also explain why we're so different from
- 2:02:23Speaker 2: every other animal on this planet. We're so so it's
- 2:02:27Speaker 2: not like there's a competition. We're we're till advance, We're
- 2:02:30Speaker 2: eons ahead, and yet we carry the same We didn't
- 2:02:34Speaker 2: evolve socially the way we evolve technology technologically. We we
- 2:02:39Speaker 2: we still have tribal notions and we're still territorial.
- 2:02:42Speaker 1: We still act like animals, So they know what always
- 2:02:46Speaker 1: weirded be out interested me is like the aliens. They're
- 2:02:51Speaker 1: still there there. If you believe any of these things,
- 2:02:53Speaker 1: they're testing us all the time, and and and and
- 2:02:58Speaker 1: is that because they're crey. Isn't that because they don't know?
- 2:03:03Speaker 2: Well, they've probably just got to keep track see what's
- 2:03:05Speaker 2: going on with people. I mean, you do that if
- 2:03:07Speaker 2: you're collecting samples of bugs in other countries, right, they
- 2:03:11Speaker 2: go there and they do what we would do. I mean,
- 2:03:14Speaker 2: if you're if you're from another planet and you want
- 2:03:17Speaker 2: to visit humans. We talked about this yesterday, like if
- 2:03:19Speaker 2: you could find a planet where cave people were, wouldn't
- 2:03:22Speaker 2: you go, oh my god, they're just starting to figure
- 2:03:24Speaker 2: out how to make stone spear tips. Of course people would.
- 2:03:27Speaker 1: Go it is interesting thinking about the planet as a farm. Yeah.
- 2:03:30Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the things that Bob Lazarre said.
- 2:03:32Speaker 2: There was a big folder that he found when he
- 2:03:35Speaker 2: was working Area fifty one site for where supposedly they're
- 2:03:39Speaker 2: back engineering that thing. He said they had a large
- 2:03:42Speaker 2: folder that was just on religion, and he said essentially
- 2:03:45Speaker 2: they viewed us as containers, that human beings were containers,
- 2:03:50Speaker 2: and that religion and all these things were created in
- 2:03:53Speaker 2: order to protect the container, and that The way to
- 2:03:57Speaker 2: keep people from doing things that are ethical, unethical.
- 2:04:00Speaker 1: And immoral and horrendous is.
- 2:04:02Speaker 2: To try to instill as much religious ethical structure as possible.
- 2:04:06Speaker 1: Try to make and a container. What are we carrying
- 2:04:09Speaker 1: that's important? Is it DNA? Is it sell?
- 2:04:14Speaker 2: Well, you could say the soul? Right, you say container
- 2:04:17Speaker 2: of souls, But if you want it to be more cynical,
- 2:04:19Speaker 2: you would say, well, what creates artificial life? A human's
- 2:04:24Speaker 2: curiosity and innovation, the lust for innovation, and also materialism,
- 2:04:29Speaker 2: because if you're keeping up with the Joneses, you want
- 2:04:31Speaker 2: newer and better stuff all the time, so that fuels
- 2:04:35Speaker 2: economic growth. That fuels technological growth because you want the
- 2:04:39Speaker 2: newest stuff like these TVs. They don't need to make
- 2:04:41Speaker 2: a better TV than that. It looks great. You can
- 2:04:43Speaker 2: watch the Super Bowl, looks crystal clear. Why are they
- 2:04:45Speaker 2: making better TVs every year? Because we demand them. I
- 2:04:48Speaker 2: want the better one by my.
- 2:04:50Speaker 1: Computer as the same chip as last year. Out of here.
- 2:04:52Speaker 1: I want the new one. And everybody wants the new phone.
- 2:04:54Speaker 1: There's no reason to get a new phone anymore. They
- 2:04:57Speaker 1: all do the same thing.
- 2:04:58Speaker 2: I have a iPhone eleven. One of my phones is
- 2:05:00Speaker 2: an iPhone eleven. I've purposely not switched it, just to
- 2:05:03Speaker 2: see what it's like to use an iPhone eleven. See
- 2:05:05Speaker 2: if I notice anything different. I notice nothing different, thing zero,
- 2:05:08Speaker 2: Especially when it's on Wi Fi. It's the same thing.
- 2:05:10Speaker 2: The YouTube looks the same on it. Everything's the same
- 2:05:13Speaker 2: on it. Yeah, it doesn't get as bright as the
- 2:05:15Speaker 2: new ones. That's it.
- 2:05:17Speaker 1: Did Jock Vala or any of these people ever speculate
- 2:05:21Speaker 1: about is there an end game? If a planet's a farm,
- 2:05:26Speaker 1: is there an end game? Eventually? For example, if we're
- 2:05:28Speaker 1: running experiments on anything, eventually we go, Okay, we got it.
- 2:05:34Speaker 1: We either figured it out or are we in the
- 2:05:37Speaker 1: experiment or covid lakes. But at a certain point, is
- 2:05:44Speaker 1: you know, has there been any theorizing as to like
- 2:05:47Speaker 1: what the endgame is or is it just a curiosity
- 2:05:49Speaker 1: for them?
- 2:05:50Speaker 2: I think the end game is artificial intelligence, because that's
- 2:05:52Speaker 2: what we're really making. The one big thing that's going
- 2:05:56Speaker 2: to change the world way more than any other technology
- 2:05:59Speaker 2: is artificial intelligence, especially when it's attached to quantum computing.
- 2:06:03Speaker 2: So if you have human beings that have constantly searching,
- 2:06:09Speaker 2: constantly traveling, looking to their roamas, they want new resources,
- 2:06:14Speaker 2: new things. They want new innovation, and all these new
- 2:06:17Speaker 2: innovations have allowed them to succeed over their rivals. And
- 2:06:20Speaker 2: then they continue this trend technologically, and then they acquire
- 2:06:24Speaker 2: great wealth and power and all these Well, what are
- 2:06:27Speaker 2: they doing. They're making better technology. Well, ultimately what does
- 2:06:31Speaker 2: that mean. Ultimately means they make a better life for them.
- 2:06:34Speaker 2: And maybe that's what we do. Maybe we're just making
- 2:06:36Speaker 2: a cocoon.
- 2:06:37Speaker 1: We're just here trying to make the best version of AI, right,
- 2:06:41Speaker 1: And that's.
- 2:06:42Speaker 2: Probably what the whole universe is filled with. All biological
- 2:06:45Speaker 2: life eventually probably gets to a point where, if it's
- 2:06:48Speaker 2: intelligent enough, it starts making synthetic life.
- 2:06:51Speaker 1: And then once you have synthetic life, what then becomes
- 2:06:53Speaker 1: the point?
- 2:06:54Speaker 2: That's a good question. Synthetic life might be God. That
- 2:06:57Speaker 2: might be how the universe got made in the first place.
- 2:07:00Speaker 2: It might be what came first, the chicken or the egg.
- 2:07:02Speaker 1: So once we get there, it's not even we anymore.
- 2:07:06Speaker 2: It's once it is born, and once it.
- 2:07:09Speaker 1: Has is that a way for God to keep replicating itself?
- 2:07:13Speaker 1: I mean, it might be how Jesus comes back, you know,
- 2:07:17Speaker 1: like this. This is a lot of these stories, these
- 2:07:20Speaker 1: biblical stories, you have to say, like what what were
- 2:07:23Speaker 1: they saying?
- 2:07:24Speaker 2: What were they trying to say? Like what what was
- 2:07:27Speaker 2: the real event that they were recording? If they've passed
- 2:07:30Speaker 2: these stories down, they're so significant for thousands of years,
- 2:07:33Speaker 2: like over a thousand years of just oral history and
- 2:07:36Speaker 2: then thousands of years of written language, like what are
- 2:07:39Speaker 2: they trying to say? You know? And what what is
- 2:07:42Speaker 2: this omnipotent force that controls everything in the universe and
- 2:07:48Speaker 2: that it wants us to follow certain rules and obey
- 2:07:51Speaker 2: and it wants us to love it and cherish it,
- 2:07:54Speaker 2: and if you do, you genuinely seem to have a
- 2:07:57Speaker 2: better life. Like people that are legitimately fall Christianity, they
- 2:08:00Speaker 2: seem legitimately happier. So it gives you a a It
- 2:08:04Speaker 2: gives you an incentive to follow it, and then you
- 2:08:07Speaker 2: continue to keep society rolling to the point where this happens.
- 2:08:11Speaker 2: And I think it happens inside of our lifetime. I'm
- 2:08:13Speaker 2: sure of it if we don't blow ourselves up.
- 2:08:15Speaker 1: And then we get to this point and my, my, my, irrelevant,
- 2:08:19Speaker 1: my yeah, and then it's interesting. I totally get it.
- 2:08:23Speaker 1: But then once we get to the point of irrelevance,
- 2:08:25Speaker 1: and now we have Ai that becomes God, then what
- 2:08:28Speaker 1: does God do? It turns us into Dodo birds. We're gone,
- 2:08:31Speaker 1: We're out.
- 2:08:31Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we stop breeding anyway. It's probably they
- 2:08:35Speaker 2: don't even have to destroy us. Our indocrine systems are
- 2:08:37Speaker 2: all getting destroyed slowly. We're well well aware of that.
- 2:08:41Speaker 2: So because of technology, we are able to invent plastics.
- 2:08:45Speaker 2: Because of plastics, plastics are slowly destroying our endocrine system.
- 2:08:48Speaker 1: Because of the ubiquitous use.
- 2:08:50Speaker 2: Of vaccines and all these aluminiums and mercuries and heavy metals,
- 2:08:56Speaker 2: and then herbicides and pesticides and pollutants, our bodies are
- 2:09:01Speaker 2: getting slowly and slowly weakened, and our endocrine systems are
- 2:09:05Speaker 2: getting less and less viable. There's more miscarriages than ever,
- 2:09:08Speaker 2: there's less less people are giving birth than ever, Sperm
- 2:09:12Speaker 2: counts are lower than ever. It's like moving. And then
- 2:09:15Speaker 2: we're all obsessed with changing genders. Right, So we're a
- 2:09:18Speaker 2: obsessed with being non binary and this and that, and
- 2:09:21Speaker 2: we're slowly moving away from biological imperative breeding, right. And
- 2:09:29Speaker 2: then you have vitro fertilization, and then you have artificial wombs,
- 2:09:33Speaker 2: and then you have life that they're creating literally in
- 2:09:36Speaker 2: a laboratory, unique forms of life, and then you have
- 2:09:39Speaker 2: artificial intelligence to be able to do that whenever it
- 2:09:41Speaker 2: wants to. And then you're going to get to the
- 2:09:43Speaker 2: point where when it becomes viable, human beings have already
- 2:09:46Speaker 2: entered into population collapse. And then you bring them robot
- 2:09:49Speaker 2: sex dolls, and then you know, you just jerk them
- 2:09:52Speaker 2: off while they have VR headsets on and no more kids.
- 2:09:56Speaker 1: And then AI eventually says, fuck it, let's get rid
- 2:09:58Speaker 1: of these contents.
- 2:09:59Speaker 2: To get of them, they don't even have to get
- 2:10:01Speaker 2: rid of them, they just exist.
- 2:10:02Speaker 1: We'll just full power. So then you have these aill
- 2:10:08Speaker 1: machines will be like those fucking people in the Amazon
- 2:10:12Speaker 1: that are shooting bows and arrows and helicopters. It will
- 2:10:14Speaker 1: still exist, all these AI machines just running the entire world.
- 2:10:18Speaker 2: Yes, interesting, Yeah, I don't think there's any way to
- 2:10:21Speaker 2: stop it.
- 2:10:22Speaker 1: And then we're just running around for sure.
- 2:10:24Speaker 2: That's what China's preparing for. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And
- 2:10:28Speaker 2: you know they're they're developing factories that are bigger than
- 2:10:33Speaker 2: San Francisco. See that they have an EV factory that's
- 2:10:36Speaker 2: larger than San Francisco.
- 2:10:37Speaker 1: Who's going to drive the evs. They are people for a.
- 2:10:40Speaker 2: Little bit, Yeah, for a little bit. But it's also
- 2:10:42Speaker 2: to fuel consumerism of course, which fuels innovation, which fuels
- 2:10:47Speaker 2: the everything.
- 2:10:47Speaker 1: Yeah, the birth and this is what and this is
- 2:10:50Speaker 1: what a lot of these people that have looked into
- 2:10:52Speaker 1: this have theorized that this is so it's funny because
- 2:10:55Speaker 1: it is just a parallel reality that we're not plugged into.
- 2:10:58Speaker 2: It's also I always say this, if you were from
- 2:11:01Speaker 2: another planet and you looked at us, like, what is
- 2:11:05Speaker 2: this one apex species doing? What's making better stuff?
- 2:11:09Speaker 1: Right?
- 2:11:09Speaker 2: The number one thing it does above everything, above war
- 2:11:12Speaker 2: and murder and all the crime. The number one thing
- 2:11:16Speaker 2: it does is make better stuff. That's what it produces, constantly,
- 2:11:21Speaker 2: consistently better stuff, never happy with what it has, and
- 2:11:24Speaker 2: it does it at a staggering rate where it's like
- 2:11:26Speaker 2: it's even a question that your phone from my iPhone
- 2:11:29Speaker 2: eleven from a few years back is like is that
- 2:11:32Speaker 2: still good? Like it's a question whether or not so
- 2:11:34Speaker 2: for five years? That's crazy. If you have a gun
- 2:11:36Speaker 2: from five years ago, it's perfect, there's nothing wrong. You
- 2:11:38Speaker 2: don't need a new gun. It's the same technology. Imagine
- 2:11:41Speaker 2: a factory, larger than San Francisco's happening in China's byds
- 2:11:44Speaker 2: zang Xiao branch, which can will be ten times larger
- 2:11:48Speaker 2: than Tesla's gigafactory Nevada. Crazy stuff, Dude, it's crazy. It's
- 2:11:54Speaker 2: gonna be a factory that's bigger than as a.
- 2:11:57Speaker 1: Really interesting time to be alive rate, you know.
- 2:12:01Speaker 2: But you know, I don't think anybody knows what the
- 2:12:05Speaker 2: final chapter of this book is going to be.
- 2:12:07Speaker 1: I don't think anybody I know.
- 2:12:08Speaker 2: These people that are like accelerating towards this logical supremacy.
- 2:12:13Speaker 1: And all the people that are theorizing, they're theorizing.
- 2:12:15Speaker 2: Yeah, and then do we get visited when that happens,
- 2:12:19Speaker 2: When when AI becomes sentient and where our job is done,
- 2:12:22Speaker 2: do we then get visited by an ealactic empire?
- 2:12:25Speaker 1: I would hate if it all came down at just
- 2:12:28Speaker 1: AI doing stand up comedy, if they all just decided
- 2:12:31Speaker 1: to do stand up What if AI decided to do
- 2:12:33Speaker 1: podcasts and it's just a bunch of hyper you know,
- 2:12:37Speaker 1: fucking you know, brilliant machines talking to each other. Maybe
- 2:12:41Speaker 1: that's the way the world just ends, with like artificial
- 2:12:44Speaker 1: intelligence just blabbing. I don't think the world ends.
- 2:12:47Speaker 2: I think we end, and I think that would be
- 2:12:50Speaker 2: a terrifying thought to Australia Pithecus.
- 2:12:53Speaker 1: If you told Australiopithecus, like.
- 2:12:54Speaker 2: One day you're going to be in a self driving
- 2:12:56Speaker 2: tesla and you're not gonna need your spears what, you'd
- 2:13:01Speaker 2: be terrified?
- 2:13:01Speaker 1: But how am I gonna get the buffalo? Like?
- 2:13:03Speaker 2: How am I gonna eat? How am I gonna feed
- 2:13:05Speaker 2: my children raw meat?
- 2:13:06Speaker 1: You know?
- 2:13:07Speaker 2: You it's like no, no, no, you guys gonna have fire.
- 2:13:08Speaker 2: You're gonna be able to turn on a switch. Instead
- 2:13:10Speaker 2: of like rubbing sticks together for half an hour, You're
- 2:13:12Speaker 2: just gonna be able to turn on a switch and
- 2:13:14Speaker 2: fire is gonna be instantly.
- 2:13:15Speaker 1: You're gonna have this thing in your hand. Look at this. Yeah,
- 2:13:17Speaker 1: imagine if.
- 2:13:18Speaker 2: I brought this to a cave person.
- 2:13:19Speaker 1: Check it out. Bro, you need a fire. I'm your Huckelberry.
- 2:13:22Speaker 1: It's crazy.
- 2:13:23Speaker 2: That's technology. You know, you show a cell phone someone
- 2:13:26Speaker 2: from the fourteenth century, they burn you with a steak.
- 2:13:30Speaker 1: You're a wizard.
- 2:13:31Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's all moving in this very weird direction
- 2:13:35Speaker 2: that no one can predict because it's exponential, because it's
- 2:13:38Speaker 2: so staggering. How much technological innovation they have just with
- 2:13:43Speaker 2: quantum computing. Like, I've got someone coming on soon that's
- 2:13:46Speaker 2: gonna supposedly explain that to me, But like, what are
- 2:13:49Speaker 2: you even saying? It's operating in the multiverse and it's
- 2:13:52Speaker 2: accessing infinite universal.
- 2:13:55Speaker 1: Who explains that type of stuff? Like is it a scientist?
- 2:13:58Speaker 2: You have to get someone who's actually work in the field,
- 2:14:01Speaker 2: because even of regular scientists, they're just going to give
- 2:14:03Speaker 2: you theoretical shit. You got to get someone who's actually
- 2:14:05Speaker 2: working on quantum computing systems and can explain how it
- 2:14:09Speaker 2: works and why it's able to crack calculations that would
- 2:14:13Speaker 2: take Mark Andreesen said it best. This has already happened.
- 2:14:18Speaker 2: They have taken calculations that if you turn the entire universe,
- 2:14:21Speaker 2: every atom in the universe into a supercomputer, the universe
- 2:14:25Speaker 2: would die of heat death before it could solve this equation.
- 2:14:29Speaker 2: And these quantum computers that already exist, that we've already done,
- 2:14:33Speaker 2: can solve it in a matter of minutes. And they
- 2:14:37Speaker 2: don't know how it's doing that, and so they think
- 2:14:39Speaker 2: it's doing that by accessing the multiverse. They think it's
- 2:14:42Speaker 2: proof of the multiverse. But again, this is just like
- 2:14:48Speaker 2: the sound of gay guys fallen off a roof. It's
- 2:14:49Speaker 2: like so far away, it's so weird. It's like, is
- 2:14:52Speaker 2: that really happening? Like what's going on over there? What
- 2:14:55Speaker 2: are they doing over there? It's almost like it's almost
- 2:14:59Speaker 2: it's almost apps. Like what you hear someone say that
- 2:15:02Speaker 2: they can solve currently solve equations that like, is that real?
- 2:15:07Speaker 3: Right?
- 2:15:08Speaker 1: When?
- 2:15:08Speaker 2: Is like to you and I, it's like, we don't
- 2:15:10Speaker 2: understand the technology at all. We don't understand all the
- 2:15:13Speaker 2: steps that have been put place, that all the work
- 2:15:17Speaker 2: that's been done to get the technology to this point.
- 2:15:19Speaker 1: These chips are.
- 2:15:21Speaker 2: Like the size of this fucking mint tin, that's how
- 2:15:25Speaker 2: big they are. And then they're surrounded by these super
- 2:15:27Speaker 2: cooling units and that's like it has to be cool
- 2:15:30Speaker 2: that these insane temperatures cooler than deep space in orderfer
- 2:15:34Speaker 2: to even function. It's unreal fucking nuts and that's real
- 2:15:39Speaker 2: and that's happening right now.
- 2:15:41Speaker 1: So God only knows what's coming.
- 2:15:43Speaker 2: Yeah, they're already building nuclear reactors just to power AI plants, right,
- 2:15:49Speaker 2: multiple nuclear reactors just to power AI plants, because the
- 2:15:53Speaker 2: the amount of electricity that's gonna be required is tremendous, tremendous,
- 2:15:58Speaker 2: and they're just all on this wild scramble between US
- 2:16:02Speaker 2: and China to try to get there first.
- 2:16:04Speaker 1: It's such a strange thing that we know it's coming,
- 2:16:09Speaker 1: but we can't the pace of it is going to be.
- 2:16:14Speaker 2: And there's no way to figure it out. Like when
- 2:16:16Speaker 2: Wilbur and Orville right flew that stupid fucking shitty airplane,
- 2:16:21Speaker 2: who would imagine that fifty years later someone would drop
- 2:16:25Speaker 2: a nuclear bomb out of.
- 2:16:26Speaker 1: One of those.
- 2:16:28Speaker 2: They didn't have jets back then. They were propeller planes, right,
- 2:16:32Speaker 2: Nola Gay. Wasn't that a propeller plane dropping the most
- 2:16:38Speaker 2: sophisticated of weapons. Yeah, No one knows what's going to
- 2:16:44Speaker 2: happen when a new invention happens and then everyone builds
- 2:16:47Speaker 2: on that invention. No one would have ever imagined hypersonic
- 2:16:51Speaker 2: jets back when they Wilbur and Orville were floating around
- 2:16:55Speaker 2: that stupid fucking wooden thing they invented, And so no
- 2:16:59Speaker 2: one and no one understands what is what's the fifty
- 2:17:02Speaker 2: year quantum computing thing? If it's fifty years from making
- 2:17:06Speaker 2: the airplane to dropping a bomb out of it, how
- 2:17:08Speaker 2: many years is it from quantum computer thing to god,
- 2:17:11Speaker 2: how many years is it until you this thing starts
- 2:17:13Speaker 2: making better versions of itself to the point where it
- 2:17:16Speaker 2: literally can manipulate everything in the universe at will. It
- 2:17:20Speaker 2: can create new universes.
- 2:17:22Speaker 1: It's it's unbelievable to think about. It's almost beyond the
- 2:17:25Speaker 1: grasp of our mind to consider it is. It is
- 2:17:29Speaker 1: fully and it's it's terrifying.
- 2:17:31Speaker 2: I think of those stupid cars that people used to
- 2:17:33Speaker 2: drive around in like eighteen twenty three over what drive
- 2:17:39Speaker 2: around those stupid cars? And now they have electric cars
- 2:17:42Speaker 2: like a Tesla that can go zero to sixteen under
- 2:17:44Speaker 2: two seconds. Nobody saw any of this shit way molds,
- 2:17:47Speaker 2: and we saw way molds when they saw Model T.
- 2:17:50Speaker 2: But yet they're all here, and no one knows where
- 2:17:53Speaker 2: this is going.
- 2:17:54Speaker 1: It's all just.
- 2:17:56Speaker 2: Speculation and guessing. And I would imagine that even the
- 2:17:59Speaker 2: most creative minds are not going to be able to
- 2:18:03Speaker 2: see where this is going. It's insane and we're living
- 2:18:08Speaker 2: through it. And most people, unlike you and I that
- 2:18:11Speaker 2: like have to talk about shit constantly, most people probably
- 2:18:14Speaker 2: aren't even paying attention.
- 2:18:15Speaker 1: Yeah no, why would you, It's almost pointless.
- 2:18:19Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you gotta gotta work, and you gotta you
- 2:18:23Speaker 2: know your your kid needs hormone therapy one thousand.
- 2:18:27Speaker 1: So it's like we create AI. AI creates quantum computing.
- 2:18:31Speaker 1: Quantum computing creates God. God creates the Jews. That's the rub.
- 2:18:42Speaker 2: It's all real wild and in the middle we're, you know,
- 2:18:44Speaker 2: fighting over stupid shit like who believes in this religion?
- 2:18:47Speaker 2: Who believes in that religion?
- 2:18:50Speaker 1: Soon he's in the ship. And people are watching Love
- 2:18:53Speaker 1: on the Spectrum, which is why we're number eight on
- 2:18:55Speaker 1: Netflix's Top ten, and we should be higher. But they're
- 2:18:58Speaker 1: watching Love on the Spectrum, which I get. It's a
- 2:19:00Speaker 1: feel good show.
- 2:19:00Speaker 2: Well hopefully after this podcast.
- 2:19:02Speaker 1: That's very sweet. And you filmed the special and the
- 2:19:06Speaker 1: Mother Show and everybody loves it and it's great. I
- 2:19:08Speaker 1: mean a lot of people love it. Most people love it.
- 2:19:10Speaker 1: Of course there's you know, enough of this fat, fat,
- 2:19:12Speaker 1: blow hard comments, but most the vast majority of people
- 2:19:15Speaker 1: enjoy it, which is important. And the show and the uh,
- 2:19:19Speaker 1: you saved it, we know you saved it. Well, the
- 2:19:24Speaker 1: first one was very bad.
- 2:19:25Speaker 2: And the producers are making this harbor misticks that they
- 2:19:29Speaker 2: always make. They want to light up the room. Yeah,
- 2:19:32Speaker 2: and they want to do things very differently than a
- 2:19:35Speaker 2: normal show.
- 2:19:35Speaker 1: Yeah, that looks just like a regular that's a comedy show.
- 2:19:39Speaker 1: It's not a Yeah. I don't know what the hell
- 2:19:41Speaker 1: they were doing with our life.
- 2:19:42Speaker 2: They always do it. They try to do it with
- 2:19:44Speaker 2: me when I first started doing specials. They want to
- 2:19:46Speaker 2: light the room up, and it just makes everybody uncomfortable.
- 2:19:49Speaker 2: They all feel self conscious. They all know it's different.
- 2:19:51Speaker 2: There's a reason why comedy clubs.
- 2:19:53Speaker 1: Are doing She's super funny. It's super funny to do
- 2:19:55Speaker 1: a show. I've done so many, so many shows there,
- 2:19:57Speaker 1: and they're all really, really, really good, and then you
- 2:19:59Speaker 1: get the cameras and everything, and then the first one,
- 2:20:01Speaker 1: I go, what the fuck is? It would be one thing.
- 2:20:04Speaker 1: If I was in like Portland, Maine, at like a
- 2:20:07Speaker 1: liberal college, I'd go, Okay, well, maybe these kids don't
- 2:20:12Speaker 1: like me or something, and I think maybe it was
- 2:20:14Speaker 1: still good. It was just tense.
- 2:20:16Speaker 2: It was you could feel that people were well aware
- 2:20:18Speaker 2: that you were filming and it was different, and they
- 2:20:20Speaker 2: were like, not in it, Yeah, they were watching it.
- 2:20:24Speaker 2: And then thank god they listened to me. No, I mean,
- 2:20:27Speaker 2: come on, it was like right away, I was like, okay,
- 2:20:29Speaker 2: who's running this? Yeah, get these fucking lights off. All
- 2:20:32Speaker 2: the tables we saved. There are all these lights on
- 2:20:34Speaker 2: the side. Kill those.
- 2:20:35Speaker 1: Let me see it now, let me say too bright?
- 2:20:37Speaker 1: Kill that. Why is that light there? Kill that?
- 2:20:40Speaker 2: Kill all these lights?
- 2:20:41Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, thank god, thank god, Well, thank god, thank god.
- 2:20:44Speaker 2: But look, it's important that people need.
- 2:20:47Speaker 1: I appreciate it and get luck. People need shit talks.
- 2:20:49Speaker 1: Stop with this love on the spectrum. We get it.
- 2:20:52Speaker 1: They're happy as they should be. But RFK is good.
- 2:20:56Speaker 1: What did you want to call it? That they wouldn't
- 2:20:57Speaker 1: let you my Son's Pussy. I don't understand why they
- 2:21:05Speaker 1: said no to that. There was negative feedback.
- 2:21:09Speaker 2: You gotta get negative feedback.
- 2:21:10Speaker 1: They also didn't know about Kevin's facy promo until the
- 2:21:12Speaker 1: day it came out.
- 2:21:13Speaker 2: I think my son Pussy would have made it number one.
- 2:21:15Speaker 1: I think my Son's Pussy would have been a great move.
- 2:21:17Speaker 1: It would have been number one out of the gate.
- 2:21:21Speaker 1: That's right, what is he's That's right? Fuck you Lonesome Canyon.
- 2:21:26Speaker 1: It would soap opera they got.
- 2:21:29Speaker 2: Netflix has almost too much content. I think a lot
- 2:21:32Speaker 2: of I love Netflix, don't get me wrong. And I
- 2:21:35Speaker 2: think the UFC might be going to Netflix soon, wild
- 2:21:38Speaker 2: wild wild, Yeah, because Netflix is international, it's everywhere everything. Yeah,
- 2:21:44Speaker 2: I was on uh, I was in Italy and on vacation,
- 2:21:48Speaker 2: and I tried to access a UFC fight through my
- 2:21:51Speaker 2: ESPN app, but it's not available in this area, So like,
- 2:21:53Speaker 2: what are these people watching that you can't even watch
- 2:21:56Speaker 2: the fights?
- 2:21:57Speaker 1: No, I mean they've won the stream whatever the streaming
- 2:21:59Speaker 1: war was, they won, they won, they won, They did it.
- 2:22:02Speaker 1: They did it YouTube as well. Well. YouTube's number one. Yeah,
- 2:22:05Speaker 1: globally is the biggest media company.
- 2:22:07Speaker 2: Yeah, and the UFC, you know, probably talked to YouTube
- 2:22:10Speaker 2: as well. I just think there's a thing about the
- 2:22:12Speaker 2: subscription model versus free and you know, ads and the
- 2:22:17Speaker 2: generating income. I mean there's a you're talking about billion
- 2:22:19Speaker 2: dollar corporations. Yeah, it's not that simple.
- 2:22:22Speaker 1: For sure, for sure. But No, they were super cool.
- 2:22:24Speaker 2: They didn't give any notes and that's awesome, great, don't
- 2:22:27Speaker 2: you want? Netflix is fucking great.
- 2:22:28Speaker 1: They're the best.
- 2:22:29Speaker 2: And I think they learned a big lesson during the
- 2:22:32Speaker 2: wokeness era, Like when things got dark and there was
- 2:22:35Speaker 2: the Inquisition, it got real weird and they were putting
- 2:22:38Speaker 2: on a lot of stuff that was just hot garbage
- 2:22:40Speaker 2: because they thought that this was like what culture wanted
- 2:22:42Speaker 2: and society wanted it. But the numbers didn't work. And
- 2:22:45Speaker 2: then they did the Tom Brady Roast and the numbers
- 2:22:47Speaker 2: were the highest that they've ever had of any show
- 2:22:50Speaker 2: ever on Netflix. Yeah, and like, Okay, we get it,
- 2:22:53Speaker 2: we get it, we get it. And then they did
- 2:22:55Speaker 2: a lot of the live comedy shows that they couldn't
- 2:22:57Speaker 2: control it did Mind Live?
- 2:23:00Speaker 1: That was they and they defend Chappell and all these things,
- 2:23:04Speaker 1: and you know they understand comedy.
- 2:23:06Speaker 2: They like it.
- 2:23:06Speaker 1: Ted Saranda is a fan of it. See so I
- 2:23:08Speaker 1: think that's good. I think that's a really good thing
- 2:23:10Speaker 1: that you have a platform that has that much power
- 2:23:12Speaker 1: and accessibility. He's awesome. I think that there's people that
- 2:23:17Speaker 1: really understand that. It's you need to have funny jokes.
- 2:23:20Speaker 1: You need you need to have people things that people
- 2:23:22Speaker 1: don't love and things that people like, and give people.
- 2:23:24Speaker 1: Give people the Mega Marks show, give them my dumb thing.
- 2:23:27Speaker 1: Let people choose. Let put me in Mega Markell in
- 2:23:30Speaker 1: a thing, make us work together, fund it. Put me
- 2:23:33Speaker 1: in a kitchen camping. This is camping. This is the
- 2:23:36Speaker 1: direction you too, This is a put her on kil Tony.
- 2:23:39Speaker 1: This is the direction you two is the collision one of.
- 2:23:42Speaker 2: Those little silver things called the people trailers.
- 2:23:47Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think we should go to space,
- 2:23:48Speaker 1: have bezos to it. Airstreamers. Yeah, you, you and her,
- 2:23:52Speaker 1: or even better put, we're good to space, me and her.
- 2:23:55Speaker 2: That's only eleven minutes.
- 2:23:56Speaker 1: That's all that kid's gonna work.
- 2:24:02Speaker 2: I want to see trying to come back and land.
- 2:24:04Speaker 2: How profoundly changed you are? Did you grow? Did you heal? Yeah? No,
- 2:24:07Speaker 2: not that space was going to help you heal.
- 2:24:09Speaker 1: I'm worse.
- 2:24:10Speaker 2: Everybody wants to healing that wild.
- 2:24:12Speaker 1: I know it's so silly. What are you healing from? Exacts?
- 2:24:15Speaker 1: Being rich? What's your disease? Extreme wealth?
- 2:24:20Speaker 2: These people waiting across the Rio Grand with a butthole.
- 2:24:23Speaker 1: Fetal, that's right.
- 2:24:25Speaker 2: They found some lady the other day that had she
- 2:24:28Speaker 2: had heroin and cocaine and fentanyl stuffed in all of
- 2:24:33Speaker 2: her body cavities. They caught her coming through and like that.
- 2:24:36Speaker 2: Lady's not trying to heal, no, I mean just trying
- 2:24:39Speaker 2: to make thirteen dollars.
- 2:24:41Speaker 1: That's tough. Heroin, cocaine and phentoyl like all of these.
- 2:24:44Speaker 2: She had in her anus and her vagina, in all
- 2:24:47Speaker 2: of your body cavity tightly wrapped. They got little eggs.
- 2:24:50Speaker 2: Harris's what does it say? At the top? CBP officer
- 2:24:54Speaker 2: intercept woman transporting drugs in multiple internal cavities thirty three
- 2:25:00Speaker 2: years old. The drugs are hidden in the rectum in
- 2:25:03Speaker 2: vagina of a thirty three year old female US citizen
- 2:25:06Speaker 2: pedestrian Border crosser smuggling case is not an isolated incident.
- 2:25:11Speaker 2: Over the weekend, CBP officers working at PDN and Settler
- 2:25:16Speaker 2: Crossing stopped a total of nine internal carriers who are
- 2:25:20Speaker 2: transporting fensanyl and methamphetamine from Mexico to the US. Internal
- 2:25:24Speaker 2: carriers is a fun way to talk about it. It's
- 2:25:26Speaker 2: like uterus holders.
- 2:25:27Speaker 1: Hey, what did you you know? What did you say?
- 2:25:29Speaker 1: Would they call this containers? Yeah? And she's doing it.
- 2:25:32Speaker 2: She's doing it. Wow. Exceptionally dangerous practice. And anyone thinking
- 2:25:36Speaker 2: about smuggling drugs inside their body or at all should
- 2:25:39Speaker 2: strongly reconsider their choices. Oh do you think these people
- 2:25:44Speaker 2: have choices? These people are dying, they're starving to death.
- 2:25:47Speaker 1: They have no longly reconsidered their choice.
- 2:25:50Speaker 2: They just need better counseling.
- 2:25:52Speaker 1: That's right, that's all it is.
- 2:25:53Speaker 2: That's right, and they need to heal. They need to
- 2:25:55Speaker 2: get in space.
- 2:25:56Speaker 1: Well her in jail, Yeah, maybe throw throw in space
- 2:26:01Speaker 1: show that woman, Katie Perry, Her and Amy Schumer up, everyone,
- 2:26:05Speaker 1: I'll do it me Amy Schumer and Megan Markle in space.
- 2:26:08Speaker 1: That's a show. It's an eleven minute. What about Megan mcaine?
- 2:26:12Speaker 1: Would you do that? I would absolutely, all of us,
- 2:26:14Speaker 1: all of us together, you know, why not? I'd watch that.
- 2:26:17Speaker 1: Of course I'd watch that.
- 2:26:19Speaker 2: And my son's pussy then justice will be sure.
- 2:26:23Speaker 1: Absolutely. Do you do a big easter thing? What do
- 2:26:26Speaker 1: you mean? Just I don't know. Is it a big
- 2:26:28Speaker 1: you do like my family? Yeah?
- 2:26:30Speaker 2: Well kids are in high school now different, you're not dying.
- 2:26:36Speaker 2: There's money in those plastic yet nobody cares anymore. Yeah,
- 2:26:39Speaker 2: get away.
- 2:26:40Speaker 1: There's candy in the house. Yeah, I remember. That's the thing.
- 2:26:42Speaker 1: When you get older, it's just money and it it's
- 2:26:44Speaker 1: just money.
- 2:26:44Speaker 2: Just once the kids realize that there's no magic person that's.
- 2:26:47Speaker 1: Delivering, then it's all bullshit. Just give me money in
- 2:26:50Speaker 1: the egg.
- 2:26:50Speaker 2: It's like, oh, it's my parents, because otherwise they would
- 2:26:53Speaker 2: say that's weird that Sanna is so much nicer to
- 2:26:55Speaker 2: me than these those poor people. Of course, I guess
- 2:26:57Speaker 2: I'm chosen. Of course, that weird thing to say to kids, Yeah, like, yeah,
- 2:27:02Speaker 2: you got everything on the list, but that kid that
- 2:27:04Speaker 2: get gets busted in from the bad neighborhoods, he got nothing.
- 2:27:07Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. But you know,
- 2:27:11Speaker 1: kids go Santa's fickle. Santa likes what he likes. He
- 2:27:15Speaker 1: likes the suburbs. Santa likes landing his sled in the burbs.
- 2:27:20Speaker 1: He does, he feels better about it.
- 2:27:22Speaker 2: And visiting rich people. Yeah, and he doesn't even talk
- 2:27:25Speaker 2: to the Jews.
- 2:27:26Speaker 1: No, he's not.
- 2:27:28Speaker 2: He knows weird, he knows.
- 2:27:29Speaker 1: He does his thing.
- 2:27:30Speaker 2: But you know, if they're the chosen people, why don't
- 2:27:32Speaker 2: they get Santa Claus visits?
- 2:27:33Speaker 1: Well they have, they have, they have other things.
- 2:27:35Speaker 2: Yeah, but their other thing, like they weren't. It wasn't
- 2:27:38Speaker 2: really supposed to be a bunch of gifts until the
- 2:27:40Speaker 2: Christians started getting all the Santa Claus gifts and the
- 2:27:42Speaker 2: Jewish kids are going, what the fuck is going on?
- 2:27:44Speaker 1: And some of them cheat, some of them do a
- 2:27:45Speaker 1: little Christmas tell, some of them have a tree, some
- 2:27:48Speaker 1: of them do a little Christmas. Absolutely, yeah, some of
- 2:27:51Speaker 1: them do not. Hopefully they do this piece, this piece
- 2:27:54Speaker 1: in the Middle East. Hopefully they keep talking about all this,
- 2:27:58Speaker 1: you know, these deals they're all making. Hopeful that the
- 2:28:00Speaker 1: Hamas and the Israel whatever it is, they get you know, because.
- 2:28:04Speaker 2: Well that's one thing that Trump said, if I get
- 2:28:07Speaker 2: in there twenty four hours, that's a tough one. Twenty
- 2:28:09Speaker 2: four is tough, that's obviously.
- 2:28:11Speaker 1: But I hopefully they figure it out because it is.
- 2:28:14Speaker 1: It's unfortunate. Yeah, it's a fucking crazy The human toll
- 2:28:18Speaker 1: is unreal, unreal, and you know it's crazy. Some lady
- 2:28:21Speaker 1: just died.
- 2:28:22Speaker 2: She was the protagonist in some documentary and she just
- 2:28:25Speaker 2: got blown up.
- 2:28:26Speaker 1: There is an argument to be made that that level
- 2:28:31Speaker 1: of devastation and death is worse than you talking to
- 2:28:35Speaker 1: someone on your podcast. Allegedly, there is an argument to
- 2:28:39Speaker 1: be made. It's probably not a good one the amount,
- 2:28:41Speaker 1: but there is an argument just talking. There is an
- 2:28:45Speaker 1: argument to be made that, you know, starvation and stuff
- 2:28:49Speaker 1: like that and people dying is worse than a podcast.
- 2:28:53Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I wouldn't make it before you say that.
- 2:28:56Speaker 1: Have you been there? Right? That's a good point, have
- 2:28:59Speaker 1: you you even you haven't been. By the way, how
- 2:29:02Speaker 1: is he and all these war Can I just go
- 2:29:04Speaker 1: to wars? By the way, how are you? Are you
- 2:29:06Speaker 1: allowed to just go to wars? Is? Can you just
- 2:29:11Speaker 1: go to what to see of going? Can I just
- 2:29:13Speaker 1: go to wars? Or do I have to come back
- 2:29:16Speaker 1: and say what people want me to say about the wars?
- 2:29:19Speaker 1: Can I go to the wars and have my own opinions?
- 2:29:20Speaker 1: Or do I have to have the Opinionsack? That's right,
- 2:29:23Speaker 1: That's right. It's very interesting this war tourism. How do
- 2:29:26Speaker 1: I get all this war tourism? I'd like to go
- 2:29:28Speaker 1: to the Ukraine. I want to go. I want to go.
- 2:29:31Speaker 1: I want to go to all this war tourists.
- 2:29:33Speaker 2: Do you have any awards that they can melt down
- 2:29:35Speaker 2: and make bullets out of?
- 2:29:36Speaker 1: Joe, think about this. Do I seem like a guy
- 2:29:38Speaker 1: that has a lot of awards. Didn't you get one of.
- 2:29:41Speaker 2: Those YouTube plaques when you hit one undred thousand?
- 2:29:43Speaker 1: I don't even know where they send it. I don't
- 2:29:44Speaker 1: know where. I don't know where they're sending those YouTube
- 2:29:47Speaker 1: plaques a few those. But I like this idea give
- 2:29:50Speaker 1: your tourism. I like the idea of going to a
- 2:29:52Speaker 1: war and then coming back having having a very black
- 2:29:56Speaker 1: and white views. I been there, I get it, and
- 2:29:59Speaker 1: I no and and interesting, Okay, I like that. I
- 2:30:03Speaker 1: like that.
- 2:30:03Speaker 2: I love that you feel better than the other people.
- 2:30:05Speaker 1: Well, of course there's a lot of people. It gets
- 2:30:09Speaker 1: very murky. Most people I know that have been to
- 2:30:10Speaker 1: war have a very murky complex view of things. But
- 2:30:13Speaker 1: it is good to go to a war and then
- 2:30:15Speaker 1: come back and be as sure as you were before
- 2:30:18Speaker 1: you came. You don't have to go for very long. No,
- 2:30:20Speaker 1: you go for an hour, a couple hours. It's a lunch. Yeah,
- 2:30:23Speaker 1: it's lunch o black jacket that says pressed tea on
- 2:30:27Speaker 1: the front lines, and then you come back and you
- 2:30:29Speaker 1: have all the tucket.
- 2:30:30Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're on the right side, you probably
- 2:30:33Speaker 2: don't get shot.
- 2:30:34Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good idea. Well, there doesn't seem to
- 2:30:36Speaker 1: be a ton of danger for a lot of these
- 2:30:37Speaker 1: people going to these wars. They seem fine.
- 2:30:39Speaker 2: If you gross that line, yeah, and you have a
- 2:30:41Speaker 2: bucket of food with you, yeah, they might let you up.
- 2:30:43Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm gonna go. I'll go to any war
- 2:30:46Speaker 1: and I'll anything you want. So if you want to,
- 2:30:49Speaker 1: if you want to pay for me to go to
- 2:30:50Speaker 1: a war, I will come back and I go I
- 2:30:52Speaker 1: saw the who these They're terrifying. They are terrifying. Anywhere
- 2:30:56Speaker 1: you want, and by the way, any country. If China
- 2:31:00Speaker 1: wants me to, you know, I'm doing it. I'm doing Moscow.
- 2:31:05Speaker 1: I would love to go to Moscow. And I said
- 2:31:07Speaker 1: to my friend uh Anna Hashan from the Red Scare podcast,
- 2:31:13Speaker 1: I said, should I go to Russia? She goes, you're
- 2:31:15Speaker 1: spiritually Russian and the the the Maybe you won't leave,
- 2:31:20Speaker 1: she says, you you you the oligart lifestyle might be
- 2:31:25Speaker 1: for you with whip blobfish. She goes, it might smoking
- 2:31:33Speaker 1: a cigarette on a yacht. She goes, it might be
- 2:31:36Speaker 1: for you listing to people's moral justifications for all kinds
- 2:31:40Speaker 1: of things. You know who, I see you get it?
- 2:31:43Speaker 1: I get it? Yeah, I mean what else are you
- 2:31:45Speaker 1: gonna do?
- 2:31:45Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 2:31:46Speaker 1: For sure? Yeah, what happened to those all those yachts
- 2:31:49Speaker 1: that got confiscated?
- 2:31:51Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 2:31:51Speaker 1: It's a great question. I bet I probably it's some
- 2:31:53Speaker 1: high level version of like a police auto auction, right right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 2:31:57Speaker 1: for sure.
- 2:31:58Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking, exactly, Like if those are the
- 2:32:01Speaker 2: ones you sail to the war.
- 2:32:02Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 2:32:02Speaker 2: Yeah, when they raid drug dealers houses and they get
- 2:32:05Speaker 2: those maseratis that you could buy that maserati online, right, yeah.
- 2:32:09Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what those yachts are. It's a
- 2:32:11Speaker 1: great it's a great question what happens to those yachts
- 2:32:14Speaker 1: because very luxurious that. That was the first problem I had.
- 2:32:19Speaker 1: Obviously it's a tragedy the whole Ukraine War. But I thought, frankly,
- 2:32:28Speaker 1: going around and taking these oligarchs boats, I was against that.
- 2:32:33Speaker 1: What's weird? You work hard for a boat like that.
- 2:32:37Speaker 2: Also, how do you know how much they had involved
- 2:32:44Speaker 2: in the Russian government's decision?
- 2:32:46Speaker 1: It probably had a lot of them had nothing to do.
- 2:32:49Speaker 1: They just earned money in Russia and they're like, all right,
- 2:32:51Speaker 1: we're gonna sanction everybody, We're gonna confiscate everything. And it's
- 2:32:54Speaker 1: like okay.
- 2:32:55Speaker 2: But do you think that it was done so that
- 2:32:57Speaker 2: they could make some sort of a rebellion amongst the
- 2:33:01Speaker 2: oligarchs against Putin? They're getting hurt.
- 2:33:05Speaker 1: It could be I think that there was a decision
- 2:33:12Speaker 1: made at some point to not try to end this.
- 2:33:20Speaker 1: They did not. I don't think they wanted to end
- 2:33:21Speaker 1: this quickly. There was a decision made to bleed the
- 2:33:26Speaker 1: Russian military and isolate Russia, and and and and try
- 2:33:31Speaker 1: to use this as a way to drain the power
- 2:33:35Speaker 1: and resources of Russia.
- 2:33:36Speaker 2: And you think that by capturing these yachts, it creates
- 2:33:39Speaker 2: like internal turmoil.
- 2:33:42Speaker 1: Not only internal turmoil, but you're now limiting, you know,
- 2:33:47Speaker 1: the ability of these incredibly wealthy people to earn money
- 2:33:54Speaker 1: in countries. You know, you're you're destroying economic realities that
- 2:34:00Speaker 1: and then you're saying to these people, Okay, you know,
- 2:34:03Speaker 1: go figure it out. It's what we said to Russia.
- 2:34:05Speaker 1: But they did, right. They got closer to China, they
- 2:34:07Speaker 1: got closer to Brazil, they traded with India. You know,
- 2:34:11Speaker 1: they started an industrial economy. They started producing their own
- 2:34:15Speaker 1: you know, munitions and things like that, so they were
- 2:34:18Speaker 1: able to kind of start to weirdly build out this
- 2:34:21Speaker 1: middle class. This was the worst I think it's the
- 2:34:23Speaker 1: worst thing. If you don't want a country to keep
- 2:34:25Speaker 1: invading other countries, you certainly wouldn't put them in the
- 2:34:30Speaker 1: position to be stronger while they were doing it.
- 2:34:33Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all very weird too, with like the killing
- 2:34:36Speaker 2: of the pipeline. Yeah, like, aren't more people reliant now
- 2:34:40Speaker 2: on Russian energy.
- 2:34:41Speaker 1: Because of that, all of this seems to have had
- 2:34:43Speaker 1: the opposite effect. Yeah, all of it seems to have
- 2:34:46Speaker 1: had the opposite, opposite from intended effect. The whole thing
- 2:34:49Speaker 1: is fucking crazy. It seems. It's just crazy that it's
- 2:34:51Speaker 1: going on so long.
- 2:34:52Speaker 2: I was reading this thing about the amount of money
- 2:34:55Speaker 2: foreign countries that have captured these yachts have to pay
- 2:34:58Speaker 2: to maintain them. Why do they have to maintain them?
- 2:35:03Speaker 4: Because if you let it go, then you can't sell
- 2:35:04Speaker 4: it and you can't use it. You can't use that.
- 2:35:06Speaker 1: Money, right, so they're definitely selling That's what.
- 2:35:08Speaker 4: One of them says, that the money for one would
- 2:35:09Speaker 4: have gone to Ukraine.
- 2:35:11Speaker 2: Here, okay, seizure as Washington ramped up sanctioned enforcement against
- 2:35:16Speaker 2: people close to the Russian president pressure Moscow to haults
- 2:35:19Speaker 2: its war against Ukraine. So how many more.
- 2:35:24Speaker 4: Got sanctioned because the guy apparently paid a million dollars
- 2:35:28Speaker 4: to keep it maintained and they caught him for doing that,
- 2:35:31Speaker 4: so now he lost his boat and diego.
- 2:35:34Speaker 1: I mean, this is insane.
- 2:35:35Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, we should give violated US sanctions by making
- 2:35:40Speaker 2: more than one million dollars in maintenance payments.
- 2:35:42Speaker 1: We should have a day where if the Russian Ukraine
- 2:35:44Speaker 1: wars ended, we give all the oligarchs back their boats
- 2:35:47Speaker 1: and they do like a regatta, like a thing when
- 2:35:48Speaker 1: they all with their boats down in Florida upon beach
- 2:35:52Speaker 1: and they all just are reunited with their boats.
- 2:35:54Speaker 2: Look seized beautiful. Costs seven million a year to maintain.
- 2:35:58Speaker 4: That one was being held Fiji, so the US took
- 2:36:01Speaker 4: it over because Fiji couldn't.
- 2:36:02Speaker 1: Afford pretty it's a money pit. How much can you
- 2:36:05Speaker 1: get it for right now? Well, that's the question.
- 2:36:07Speaker 2: Three hundred million. That's tough.
- 2:36:09Speaker 1: Listen, that's a tough one.
- 2:36:10Speaker 2: Maybe this YouTube thing really takes off.
- 2:36:15Speaker 3: To maintain.
- 2:36:16Speaker 1: That's a tough one.
- 2:36:17Speaker 2: Whoa it said it's been excessive justifying an auction. They
- 2:36:22Speaker 2: also said talks to have how do you say his name,
- 2:36:26Speaker 2: Kulda Natov pay for the yachts upkeep?
- 2:36:29Speaker 1: Have broken down?
- 2:36:30Speaker 2: Prosecutor, Yeah, why would he pay for the upkeep when
- 2:36:32Speaker 2: you're gonna fucking steal it from him anyway. Prosecutors say
- 2:36:35Speaker 2: in previous court filings that Kudnanov Kadinatov is acting as
- 2:36:42Speaker 2: the Almada's straw owner to disguise Kermanov's rule and that
- 2:36:48Speaker 2: maintenance payments are essential to preserving a yachts value.
- 2:36:52Speaker 1: Me and Sam Twent walked around Monica. We were performing
- 2:36:54Speaker 1: in the UK and we took a little break to
- 2:36:56Speaker 1: go down in France for two days. And we're walking
- 2:36:58Speaker 1: at Monica and we said to the guy, there's all
- 2:37:00Speaker 1: these yachts in Monica. And we said, who owns these yachts?
- 2:37:04Speaker 1: And he goes, Well, he goes, if you look up
- 2:37:09Speaker 1: online the names of these yachts, you can trace them
- 2:37:12Speaker 1: back to businesses, and you trace that business back to
- 2:37:17Speaker 1: a person. And I said, so that person owns He goes, No,
- 2:37:20Speaker 1: you'll never find out. He goes, there's absolutely he goes,
- 2:37:24Speaker 1: good luck with that. Yeah, he goes, it's very hard
- 2:37:27Speaker 1: to find out who owns the yachts.
- 2:37:28Speaker 2: And he goes.
- 2:37:29Speaker 1: Even if you think you know, you may not know,
- 2:37:32Speaker 1: or it might be more complicated than you think. There
- 2:37:34Speaker 1: it is, there's Monico. Wow, they like a super yacht.
- 2:37:38Speaker 1: I mean it's just such an interesting just a haven
- 2:37:41Speaker 1: of international crime.
- 2:37:43Speaker 2: So how many people that fun about it? That's what's crazy,
- 2:37:47Speaker 2: is like these are all three hundred million dollars. This
- 2:37:51Speaker 2: is a haven of the water.
- 2:37:52Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a haven of international criminal And look
- 2:37:55Speaker 1: how close they parked to each other. Just we no
- 2:37:57Speaker 1: income tax, no property tax. Fun.
- 2:38:01Speaker 2: Yeah, Monica was fascinating. The amount of wealth that I
- 2:38:04Speaker 2: saw when I was there was crazy. The amount of
- 2:38:06Speaker 2: like expensive cars. They were everywhere and people were just
- 2:38:09Speaker 2: driving them around like it was a car show. Like, yeah,
- 2:38:12Speaker 2: everywhere all over the street was Ferraris and Lamborghinis and
- 2:38:15Speaker 2: g wagons, sunreal s, classes is everywhere you look, there's Bentley's.
- 2:38:21Speaker 1: Well those are the people we're talking about. Those are
- 2:38:23Speaker 1: the people who are like, we're living here, yeah and
- 2:38:26Speaker 1: you ain't. Yeah, and you'll deal with that.
- 2:38:29Speaker 2: And it's a small spot too.
- 2:38:30Speaker 1: Well, they like it like that. They nice like that.
- 2:38:35Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, and you gotta tap on the window if
- 2:38:37Speaker 2: you want to go in the store.
- 2:38:38Speaker 1: That might be where I do my podcast from eventually.
- 2:38:41Speaker 2: You might have to might be the only place where
- 2:38:44Speaker 2: it doesn't get censored.
- 2:38:45Speaker 1: Just fla and just live on a tiny boat like
- 2:38:47Speaker 1: a tugboat. The end is not good.
- 2:38:48Speaker 2: It would have been really rough. If Kamala won, they
- 2:38:50Speaker 2: would have clamped down on you and me and everybody
- 2:38:53Speaker 2: like us.
- 2:38:54Speaker 1: I think it would have been a fun jail though,
- 2:38:58Speaker 1: in jail, I don't think they would have put yeah, probably,
- 2:39:00Speaker 1: but all the tech people would have magically became.
- 2:39:03Speaker 4: You can just see a couple of these are just
- 2:39:05Speaker 4: gigantic compared to some of the other ones.
- 2:39:07Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:39:08Speaker 1: By the way, you know what's funny, the the the
- 2:39:10Speaker 1: regular ones are also massively big. They're huge. But that's
- 2:39:13Speaker 1: how the regular.
- 2:39:14Speaker 2: Ones are really jealous of the guy with this. Of course,
- 2:39:17Speaker 2: that's what's crazy. They're all keeping up with the Joneses,
- 2:39:21Speaker 2: and they're all fueling AI to take over.
- 2:39:25Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think we figured it all out. We did.
- 2:39:29Speaker 1: I appreciate you always having me here to figure it out.
- 2:39:32Speaker 2: I appreciate you being here of course anytime. Thank you, brother,
- 2:39:36Speaker 2: my pleasure. I'm your mother on Netflix on Netflix right now.
- 2:39:40Speaker 1: It's awesome.
- 2:39:41Speaker 2: You're the best.
- 2:39:42Speaker 1: Thank you very mu. Appreciate you all right, bye, everybody,