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The Late Debate | 18 December · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Wait, welcome to the Lake deer Plase. Good evening and
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Liz Stora and joining me this evening is Joe
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  Speaker 2: Hildebrand and Gabriella Power for being here, guys, and thank
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  Speaker 2: up tonight, the Curious case continues for the man accused
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  Speaker 2: of convicted of I should say, killing George Floyd. The
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  Speaker 2: up to speed on that shortly. Secondly, a massive win
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  Speaker 2: for the Irish in the High Court regarding another another
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  Speaker 2: settlement of refugees. It's not going ahead and it's opened
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  Speaker 2: up a can of worms in the country.
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  Speaker 1: What's going to happen next?
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  Speaker 2: And if you're struggling to get into the Christmas spirit,
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  Speaker 2: But first tonight to the UK where people have gathered
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  Speaker 2: outside BBC headquarters to protest who they decided to give
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  Speaker 2: Woman Footballer of the Year Award two. Her name is
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  Speaker 2: Barbara Bander a twenty four year old who plays.
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  Speaker 1: In the UK, and she has been awarded this.
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  Speaker 2: Despite the fact that she was previously withdrawn from the
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two Women's Africa Cup of Nations over gender
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  Speaker 2: regulation concerns ie she had failed a sex test. Here's
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  Speaker 2: Barbara Banda on Tuesday receiving the award.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations.
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  Speaker 2: Women's rights advocates have gotten quite a crowd outside of
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  Speaker 2: BBC headquarters to say, couldn't you just pick a woman
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  Speaker 2: who doesn't have these kinds of allegations surrounding her? Now,
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  Speaker 2: it's not known that Barbara is a trans woman. No,
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  Speaker 2: it's more likely that she falls under the category of
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  Speaker 2: having DSD, which is disorder of sex development, which you
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  Speaker 2: probably remember from the many conversations that were had around
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  Speaker 2: in Main Khalif following the big punch up pun intended
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  Speaker 2: at the French A limb picks Gabby.
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  Speaker 1: You'd think that this would just be straightforward by now.
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  Speaker 2: If you fail a sex test, there are real question
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  Speaker 2: marks over your eligibility receiving an award, especially from the
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  Speaker 2: national broadcaster that's supposed to be a.
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  Speaker 1: Woman's Footballer of the Year award. This one shouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: a hard one.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a really bizarre choice from the BBC
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  Speaker 3: to award a Barbara Banda the Woman's Footballer of the Year.
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  Speaker 3: It's obviously going to spark controversy, especially that it was
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  Speaker 3: just two years ago that she failed to meet the
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  Speaker 3: gender eligibility rules to even compete because her levels of
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  Speaker 3: testosterone were just extraordinarily high. However, I do feel sorry
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  Speaker 3: for her in this case because it's not like she
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  Speaker 3: was born a male and she's changed her sex and
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  Speaker 3: she's wanting to compete.
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  Speaker 4: In female sports. I'm all for, you know, getting men
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  Speaker 4: out of female.
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  Speaker 3: Sports, keeping it safe, but it's not really her fault
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  Speaker 3: that she has this extraordinarily high level of testosterone. I
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  Speaker 3: do understand that she had the choice to take medication
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  Speaker 3: to bring the level of testosterone back down. She didn't
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  Speaker 3: want to do that for medical reasons or the risk
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  Speaker 3: of side effects, and that's her choice as well.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, if she's an athlete.
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  Speaker 3: She's obviously good at what she does and she wants
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  Speaker 3: to play.
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  Speaker 4: It's not her fault that the.
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  Speaker 3: Babe want to award her, you know, this award.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Joe, but it was just October this year that we're
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  Speaker 2: all talking about the fact that even the UN had
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  Speaker 2: handed down a report which found hundreds of women had
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  Speaker 2: missed out on heaps of medals. Over six hundred female
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  Speaker 2: athletes in more than four hundred competitions. This report said
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  Speaker 2: by the UN lost more than eight hundred and ninety
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  Speaker 2: medals in twenty nine different sports. And that's not just
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  Speaker 2: speaking of trans women competing with women. That is speaking
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  Speaker 2: of these athletes that do have an insane advantage over
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  Speaker 2: your average the capacity of an average sporting woman due
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  Speaker 2: to having DSD.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I get that, but I kind of think
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  Speaker 5: I'm a bit with Gab on this one. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: what she's supposed to do. It's the way that she
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  Speaker 5: was born. She's accepting the biology she was born with.
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  Speaker 1: It's a matter of fairness, But I mean, is it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean like some people get born and they're, you know,
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  Speaker 5: seven foot tall, and they make fantastic basketballers and they're
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  Speaker 5: going to kick my little white toush every time on them.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't think anyone's arguing about Barbara's fault. I
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  Speaker 2: think the all eyes are on the national broadcast are
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  Speaker 2: saying why out of all the remarkable woman footballers we have.
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  Speaker 2: Would you choose someone who's failed a sex test?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think we know why, and we're talking about it.
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  Speaker 5: I think they did it. They clearly did it deliberately
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  Speaker 5: to sort of show that they were like right on
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  Speaker 5: the cutting edge of you know, we're so gageous we
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  Speaker 5: are look how you know care weer And obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the BBC would have known that this is after all,
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  Speaker 5: the media organization. They would have known that this would
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  Speaker 5: cause a bit of controversy. It gives a huge amount
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  Speaker 5: of publicity for their award and also makes them look
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  Speaker 5: like they're kind of, you know, at the vanguard of
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  Speaker 5: you know, trans inclusion or whatever. But again not, she's
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  Speaker 5: not even trans, So I don't really like, I don't
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  Speaker 5: understand what she's supposed to. So this is the thing
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  Speaker 5: that I don't mean it's on.
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  Speaker 2: Her at all, Like I say, it's no one's an
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  Speaker 2: actual But if she.
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  Speaker 5: Can compete, then she can get the award. Either she's not.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that's fair that the BBC, the National
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  Speaker 2: broadcast had decided out of all the other females who
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  Speaker 2: would have to work twice as hard to compete as
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  Speaker 2: well as Barbara miss out on the.
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  Speaker 5: Awards both the BBC can it's their award, they can
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  Speaker 5: give it to whoever they want. I think the question
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  Speaker 5: the question is whether or not women with higher levels
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  Speaker 5: of testosterone should be able to play women's sport, And
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  Speaker 5: then the question becomes should women who were born biological
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  Speaker 5: males be allowed to play sport? And then the question comes,
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  Speaker 5: you know, is that does there have to be some
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  Speaker 5: kind of testosterone or estrogen level to be met?
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  Speaker 3: And the board as well, because she wasn't allowed to
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  Speaker 3: play in twenty twenty two. You know, that was when
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  Speaker 3: the standard was much higher than it is to even
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  Speaker 3: compete in the Olympics, so she was allowed to compete
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  Speaker 3: in the Olympics, so you know it should probably be
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  Speaker 3: it's the same.
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  Speaker 1: That's why has the standard dropped?
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  Speaker 2: Why is this UK and seen as something that ought
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  Speaker 2: to be celebrated. Yeah, it turns out all the best
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  Speaker 2: sports women are men or someone with DSD. I think
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  Speaker 2: JK Rolling, infamous women's rights advocate. I think she summed
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  Speaker 2: it up well in her tweet today she said presumably
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  Speaker 2: the BBC decided this was more time efficient than going
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  Speaker 2: door to door to spit directly in women's faces, well said,
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  Speaker 2: I say, staying in the UK.
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  Speaker 4: Now point rolling.
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  Speaker 3: I have to say I normally back her on most cases,
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  Speaker 3: especially when she gets hit by transactivists, you know, saying
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  Speaker 3: the most horrific, vicious things to try and take her down.
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  Speaker 3: So but on this case, I'm not one hundred percent
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  Speaker 3: sure I agree. But I think when people are trying
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  Speaker 3: to do so much to protect women in sports, it's
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  Speaker 3: just kind of a really prerocative choice, I guess by
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  Speaker 3: the BBC.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I don't think it's fair whatsoever. Staying in
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  Speaker 2: the UK Now, a former Lib DEM candidate back in
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  Speaker 2: December twenty eighteen, was on her way to a Libdems
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  Speaker 2: meeting thinking it was just another day in paradise. It
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  Speaker 2: ain't Natalie Bird and she was told when she got
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  Speaker 2: there by the convener of the meeting that she had
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  Speaker 2: to leave immediately. Her crime she'd worn a T shirt
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  Speaker 2: defining what a woman is it's simply read adult human female.
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  Speaker 2: For this, she was ostracized for holding a view she
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  Speaker 2: has every right to hold by the party. She was
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  Speaker 2: suspended from the lib Dems and ban from standing as
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  Speaker 2: an MP for a decade. She's now Earlier this year
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  Speaker 2: decided to take them to court for this. Initially she
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  Speaker 2: was asking for ten thousand pounds for hurt feelings. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not exaggerating. The quote says for injury to feelings. End quote.
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  Speaker 2: But now she's decided she's after ninety k Joe. I
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  Speaker 2: was all for this woman. I thought, yes, fight, fight fights.
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  Speaker 2: This is abjectly unfair. And then I found out that
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  Speaker 2: now she's just up to the price by eighty thousand pounds.
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  Speaker 1: And I think she's taking the meeting, which is.
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  Speaker 5: A thing, right Like, she's complaining that. You know, the
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  Speaker 5: Lib Dems have banned her from going to any Liberal
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  Speaker 5: Democrat meetings, They've banned her from associating with Lib Dems.
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  Speaker 5: They've banned her for standing as a Libdem candidate. Where's
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  Speaker 5: the punishment you should be? You're so good to it.
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  Speaker 5: This is the best thing about this issue, right, This
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  Speaker 5: is the most fantastic thing about it, because it is
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  Speaker 5: tearing apart the inner city love is. It's tearing apart
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  Speaker 5: the inner city Left. It's tearing apart the Victorian Greens.
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  Speaker 5: Every single meeting that the Victorian Greens have, every single
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  Speaker 5: pre selection they have. Somehow this issue manages to creep
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  Speaker 5: into it and just explode them. It's either like a
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  Speaker 5: fight between people who think maybe we should just talk
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  Speaker 5: about anything other than trans rights for just like one minute,
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  Speaker 5: and they think that this is the new frontier. You know,
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  Speaker 5: we've got same sex marriage. Now we've got to get
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  Speaker 5: transit us over the line, and you have to throw
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  Speaker 5: everything at it. And then of course you've got at
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  Speaker 5: the same time the sort of radical feminists and the
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  Speaker 5: former you know almost like I don't know, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he would have lesbian separatists back in the day, you
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  Speaker 5: know that you know, all heterosexual sex is a violation
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  Speaker 5: and that women can only feel say around other women.
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  Speaker 5: And now you've got all these people who would have
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  Speaker 5: ended up in the Greens, and they are now the
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  Speaker 5: turfs who are being threatened, they think, by trans women.
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  Speaker 5: And so it is the ultimate left eating itself almost
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  Speaker 5: via you know, insertion of its own. You know, it
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  Speaker 5: is so far up itself that is actually just consuming
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  Speaker 5: itself within. It's like it's like it's like the human centipede.
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  Speaker 5: But there's just one.
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  Speaker 2: No reds to that was I don't know that she's
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  Speaker 2: going to get this payout though, Gabby, because as the
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  Speaker 2: party who of course fighting this tooth and now have
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  Speaker 2: pointed out much of the bullying that she's suing for
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  Speaker 2: was by activists, not by people within the party themselves.
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  Speaker 1: They of course had made this.
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  Speaker 2: Disciplinary measure for which they were happy to pay her
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  Speaker 2: ten thousand K.
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  Speaker 1: They owned it, they conceded.
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  Speaker 2: But now she's going for ninety K and they're like,
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  Speaker 2: we're not taking ability for things that activists.
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  Speaker 3: Then, as he said, taking the mickey on this one,
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  Speaker 3: I think as a big big red flag around at
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  Speaker 3: Natalie Bird. I was with you where you're going to.
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  Speaker 3: You see her coming out. She's wearing the so the
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  Speaker 3: T shirt that's so offensive, saying women are adult human females. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I'm proud of her actually wearing something like that.
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  Speaker 4: She's absolutely entitled to.
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  Speaker 3: But when you start carrying on claiming to be a victim,
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  Speaker 3: and that's part of her claim is that she suffered
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  Speaker 3: a victimization. Any one of us can claim that they've
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  Speaker 3: been victimized over whatever reason, and you can. I think
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  Speaker 3: if you're chasing this party for money, as much money
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  Speaker 3: as she can, she's better off using her time doing
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  Speaker 3: something else. If she really cares about women's rights, what
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  Speaker 3: have issues that she wants to divide about she can
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  Speaker 3: do something proactive and trying to get ninety thousand dollars
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  Speaker 3: just seems absolutely outraged.
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  Speaker 4: Look at it.
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  Speaker 5: She wants the ninety thousand dollars to buy ninety thousand
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  Speaker 5: new T shirts.
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  Speaker 2: I I can't imagine that the lib Dems have that
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  Speaker 2: kind of money anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So that's a very important thing to do, lady.
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  Speaker 2: Before you sue someone, you need to make sure that
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  Speaker 2: they have the money to cough up before you even bother.
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  Speaker 2: Back to Australia now, where we all know that Candace Owens,
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  Speaker 2: inarguably the most famous conservative female commentator on the face
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  Speaker 2: of the planet, has been denied a visa to Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Tony Burke is worried that she will well that she
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  Speaker 2: has the capacity to incite discord and quote we'll keep
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  Speaker 2: has challenged this in the High Court.
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  Speaker 1: She's saying this.
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  Speaker 2: Amounts to censorship and she's not wrong. This amounts to censorship.
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  Speaker 2: I won't stand for it. I'm going to take every
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  Speaker 2: avenue available to me to challenge this in justice. It's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a very interesting case. We saw very
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  Speaker 2: recently New Zealand overturned their initial ban on her visa,
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  Speaker 2: her doing a speaking tour there. It remains to be
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  Speaker 2: seen where whether Tony Burt's call will.
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  Speaker 1: Actually stand up in the High Court. I have a
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  Speaker 1: feeling it won't.
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  Speaker 4: Gabby, Yeah, I don't think that it will.
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  Speaker 3: I think this one's quite difficult because we've got a
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  Speaker 3: crisis at the moment right here with it with anti Semitism.
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  Speaker 3: We're seeing that play out. So I understand why the
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  Speaker 3: visa was denied. I suppose I think anything at the
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  Speaker 3: moment that could kind of make the social cohesion worse
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  Speaker 3: in Australia. We don't want to anyone here that is
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  Speaker 3: going to be sharing anti Semitic views. However, I also
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  Speaker 3: believe in the freedom of speech and I just don't
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  Speaker 3: think you can censor people.
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  Speaker 4: And thinking she already has a platform.
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  Speaker 3: We've got five million people following her on Instagram, We've
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  Speaker 3: got six million people following her on Twitter. If you're
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  Speaker 3: going to say she can't come to Australia, people that
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  Speaker 3: want to listen to her are going to find a way.
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  Speaker 4: To listen to her.
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  Speaker 3: You've actually so that's it, and it could even have
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  Speaker 3: the reverse effect. All of a sudden, you know, people
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  Speaker 3: are saying you can't listen to her and then all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden her numbers go after.
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  Speaker 5: Have yes, yeah, that is certainly my normal rule of thumb,
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  Speaker 5: but I think in this case, at this time, it
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  Speaker 5: would be foolhardy to have her over.
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  Speaker 2: The freedom of speech is not when you feel like
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  Speaker 2: it is working democracy.
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  Speaker 5: If she was saying these things here and or someone
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  Speaker 5: else was saying these things here.
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  Speaker 2: And when we say these things. To be clear, she
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  Speaker 2: has been called anti semitic. However these days just speaking
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  Speaker 2: again certain things Israel's doing or opposing actions that Netanyahu
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  Speaker 2: has taken, that is being painted with this very broad
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  Speaker 2: brush of oh, it's anti semitic. As you and I
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  Speaker 2: have spoken about previously, you can oppose things that ISRAELI.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'll not be anti semitic.
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  Speaker 5: But clearly, but clearly, there is an outbreak of anti
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  Speaker 5: semitism in Australia, and her comments go beyond criticizing Israel and.
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  Speaker 1: Getting point to any of those comments, I think I.
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  Speaker 5: Don't have it. I don't have a comments in front
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  Speaker 5: of me. I remember reading them in the past and
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  Speaker 5: being surprised that she would say things like that. But
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  Speaker 5: my concern is that there is an epidemic of anti
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  Speaker 5: Semitism that is virulent in Australia at the moment. It
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  Speaker 5: is live, it is violent. We have seen cars properties
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  Speaker 5: being firebombed. And to bring someone over who is under
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  Speaker 5: a cloud of anti semitism in that environment, I think
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  Speaker 5: is too risky. And that is a different thing from
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  Speaker 5: one being able to say what she's saying here within viability.
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  Speaker 5: We don't even know what she's going to say here.
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  Speaker 5: And this is where I think I'm not sure how
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  Speaker 5: the High Court challenge is going to work. The High
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  Speaker 5: Court has previously found that there is an implied freedom
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  Speaker 5: of political expression in the constitution. That's as far as
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  Speaker 5: it goes. We don't have constitutionally protected free speech in
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  Speaker 5: Australia like America does. So she's free to say those
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  Speaker 5: things over here. Over Here, you might say, if she's
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  Speaker 5: talking about, you know, Jewish people having too much influence
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  Speaker 5: or whatever, that might be considered, and that might be considered.
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  Speaker 1: We've never done that.
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  Speaker 5: That might be considered an implied freedom of political expression.
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  Speaker 5: If she's talking about that sort of thing now, or
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  Speaker 5: maybe it's just out now, any semittism, they dismiss it.
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  Speaker 5: But the test by which someone can be denied a visa.
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  Speaker 5: Is I believe the Immigration Minister just being able to
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  Speaker 5: determine of his or her own accord whether or not
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  Speaker 5: they deem someone to be of good character. And so
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  Speaker 5: that's quite a subjective test that they clearly have the
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  Speaker 5: power to apply, whether it meets the threshold of implied
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  Speaker 5: freedom of expression in another jurisdiction where she's saying it,
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  Speaker 5: which the High Court has no jurisdiction of. Does that
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  Speaker 5: make sense?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I will say from the Albany the government
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  Speaker 2: on this is that they're not playing favorites, because of
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  Speaker 2: course we know that they also denied a visa to
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  Speaker 2: a former Israeli minister who is a firebrand on the
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  Speaker 2: Israeli side. So at least we can give them that
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  Speaker 2: they're not playing favorites. They simply don't want a firebrand
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  Speaker 2: on either side visiting Australia at a time when let's
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  Speaker 2: face it, it's a tinderbox in here moving very very.
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  Speaker 1: Local for anyone in New South Wales.
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  Speaker 2: We learned today thanks to a freedom of information application
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  Speaker 2: by Liberal MP Matt Fox.
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  Speaker 1: Have I no cross, sorry, Matt Cross, that open cross.
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  Speaker 2: The state government, the men's government, Joe is going to
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  Speaker 2: hate this story because.
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  Speaker 1: We know so how much he loves mins.
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  Speaker 2: The Men's government has forked out a whopping five point
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  Speaker 2: four million dollars in taxpayer funds trying to review the
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: toll system, which we know is extortionate.
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  Speaker 1: Anyone who has traveled on.
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  Speaker 2: Sydney roads knows that it's absolutely extortionate. But these people
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  Speaker 2: putting this review together have managed to blow five point
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  Speaker 2: four million dollars just on putting it together.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Here's some of the money spent.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: One hundred and forty thousand, one hundred and forty five
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars on flights and accommodation, two point eight million
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: on staff, one point five million on other consultants. My goodness,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: have we've got consultants hiring consultants now? And fifty two thousand,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: two hundred and eight dollars on miscellaneous.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of pens and highlighters. My goodness, now
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: this review miscellaneous one. She was very well off this review, Gabby.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: What cracked me up because I was like, Okay, what
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: were the findings?
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, fix this? How are you five million dollars?
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: What are you going to find? Expecting? Goal tier?
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: The review recommends a new northbound toll on the Harbor
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Bridge and Tunnel as well as the Eastern distributor.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: The review argues that.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: The money raised would then be used to lower the
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: costs of tolls across the network. So basically what we've
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: got recommended for our five point four million dollars is
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: more tolls which will overall make the tolls cheaper.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: What a good way to spend five million dollars to
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: find something like that? But how infuriating is it for
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: anyone living in Sydney in New Southwest and it just
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: costs so much money to get from A to B.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: It's seven dollars just to go through one one tunnel
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: another five dollars here before even factor in how much
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: you're spending on fuel and the rest of it.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: But this in from the government on this one.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: When they were you are asked to provide a statement
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: as to this report, they've said, oh, you know, the
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: five million dollars pails in comparison to the one hundred
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: and ninety five billion dollars at motorists will pay out
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: to twenty sixty unless the new system is reformed. Are
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: we supposed to be grateful that we are spending so
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: much Sean tolls as it is, it's just getting higher,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: and that spending five million to find out absolutely nothing.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: Oh and it's a storm and to take up five million,
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: they'll barely get your three toll gates on the m
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: fire three times.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I've got to come into it.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: I do love my boy, No, but he is. He
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: is trying to fix the problem. So he is like, yes,
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: the Telly is absolutely right, and nothing has actually happened yet,
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: and yes there does.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Appear to be Yes, there does appear to be nothing.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: At all. Love Alan Fells as well, big fan.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Although it must be said it's not Fell's fault, as
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: he pointed out my expenses. This is the guy who
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: was in charge of doing the review. He headed the
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: whole thing up. He simply pointed out, don't.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Look at me. It was under the cap that the
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: government gave me.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: One motel.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe say.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: So again the finger pointing comes straight back to your mate.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: Well, I think I think smaller someone gives you a
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: cap doesn't mean you have to spend all of it.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: But again I suppose you know, is a very well
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: respected competition azar and he knows what he's doing, and
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: I think his his his recommendations actually make a huge
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: amount of sense. So for people outside of Sydney. Obviously,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: the North Shore and the Eastern suburbs are the most
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: affluent parts of Sydney, and yet owing to a quirk
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: in history, you don't actually pay a toll going north
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: on the Harbor Bridge of tunnel. You only pay it
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: on the way back, so you only you're only basically
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: getting a half you're getting you're only paying half price
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: basically for use of the road. Whereas if you live
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: in the Southwest with the M five, or in the
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: West with the M four, or anywhere else you have
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: to rely on toll roads, it's not like, oh no,
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: you only get you know, you only have to pay
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: you know, going west, you don't have to pay when
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: you're coming back. So I actually think it makes perfect sense.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: It is you'll be pleased to know these, especially a
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: redistribution of wealth. But the richest parts of Sydney have
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: been getting literally a free ride like these are distributed.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: There's no tolls at all, whereas for poor people in
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: the out of west, you know, people who rely on
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: the M four, the M five, people in Cana.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Trying to make it getting free rides anywhere. Sydney is
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: so spread out, wherever you live, wherever you were, people
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: have to cross all over to go see their family.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I think no matter what part of Sydney you're in,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: you're coughing up for.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Tollstly agree, if you're traveling anywhere in Sydney, you're gonna
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: you've basically bought another car in the cost of tolls
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: in the space of say a year. It's absolutely extortionate.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: To Canada, now, where we're still waiting, is Trudeau going
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: to resign or not? We know that two of his
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: ministers resigned within the same day. The vast majority of
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: people want to see the back of this guy. He's
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: clearly lost the confidence of his parliament and Heckler's are
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: coming after him. Check out this guy who took him
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: to task last night at a Liberal Party fundraiser at
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: the Canadian Museum of History. This clip has gone viral,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: with many Canadians saying this man is fueling the rage.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Of a nation.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: King Trudeau, what gives you the right to continue? What
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: gives you the right to stay in office? You failed Canada,
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: You've ruined our country. You're done, walk away. You don't
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: have an ounce of your father's integrity. At least he
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: walked in the snow.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: You've ruined.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: This country around you is running from you.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: They're abandoning you.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: Christian Friel and Sean Fraziers, they've all left you.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: It's time for you to go.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: It's time for Canada to have an election. You're not
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: the king.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: See this is what I don't understand. Why is he
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: so upset about Justin Trudeau not being the king. Canada
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: is not even a republic. You actually have a king.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: So you're just saying you're not king, Charles. I think
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: this guy's in the wrong country.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: We're simply saying that you can.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Be deposed unlike kings, really unless you kill him.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: Let's have a look sadly for Justin Trudeau and got
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: the French. Bloody French every time, isn't it. They just
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: screw you over to the last.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Anyway, Now, sadly for Justin Trudeau was not the end
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: of it. Another heckler came out him and said that
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: he sold Canada out.
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: No, you've sold us out to globalism. You are not
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: working for Canada, you are working for your globalist partners.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: I wonder how much they're paying you to be tree Canada.
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: What do we do with traders in Canada, mister Trudeau.
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: We used to hang them, hang them for.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Treason, and you're doing that very same thing to us.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Now, okay, now I'm not that if I quite agree
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: with the whole.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Agree. Oh no, no, no, not.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: That hanging paper.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: But that was a historical fact which he's pointed.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Out, that Canada used to hang people for treason. Don't
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: you do it?
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: That, doesn't you do it?
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Of that clip which you have artfully evaded, is the
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: fact that this guy was trained by the World Economic Forum.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: He is on the World Economic Forum website, is one
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: of the young leaders that they are so proud of,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and he has absolutely ruined his country. The one guy
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: who can save it though, Leader of the opposition, Pierre Polivier,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: he took to his socials yesterday to explain the situation
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: that there was only one man still keeping him Trudeau
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: in power, and would that man agree to withdraw his support.
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: Mister Trudeau is being held in office by one man,
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: jag Meat saying eighty percent of Canadians have lost confidence
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: in this Prime minister. So why is jag Meet saying
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: making the entire country wait for him to get his pension.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah. See, that's all well and good, but you know
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: you're really in trouble when your own people, the people
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: you are actually in coalition with, the people who are
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: your governing partners, are also calling for you to reside.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: And that is exactly what Jack Mete seeing from the
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: New Democrats, is saying, he listen.
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: And instead of dealing with issues that are important for Canadians,
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: the Prime minister is dealing with fighting in his own party.
• 27:03
  Speaker 9: It's clear that the Prime minister cannot continue. Will he
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: resign today?
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: Yes or no?
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: So the day after Pierre said, Jack mut saying you've
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: got to pull the plug on this guy. There he
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: is saying, okay, Trudeau, it's time to say goodbye. I
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: am loving the momentum. This is getting gabby. But Trudeau,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: while saying that he's currently considering his options, has yet
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: to do anything comprehensive.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've been waiting for it, haven't we.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: But you know, it's clear that his time is up.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: It's not new that politicians. He's not the first one
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: to get heckled. I remember being in Melbourne and going
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: to down Andrews Press conferences, and during the COVID years
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: he was getting heckled when he was outside that stadium
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: as well. But you know, Canada, it just needs to
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: reform its economic policies. It's you know, the Canadians are
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: absolutely fed up with it, with the cost of living crisis,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: the immigration crisis, and now just seeing so much online
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: of just people being so disappointed by him.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: It is one of those things, isn't it, where everyone
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: loves the progressive work, touchy feely agenda everything when everything's
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: going well or everything. As soon as there is a
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: cost of living pressure, everything just evaporates instantly, including you
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: know actual you know, serious things like long term things though,
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: like climate train and stuff like that, which I know
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: is a government conspiracy is But I dare say we've
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: gone from karme lamentum to justin true demented.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: How much work did you put into that?
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: I spent.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: That.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was absolutely incredible.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: It really disturbs me though, that Justin Trudeau has French
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: heritage and that France hate the French is next to Germany.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: About Pierre then because he has a French last name,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: because he's set to become the next PMS.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: I heard them all. I heard them all, Quebec.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: You can't keep this guy happy.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I think the Canadians should just start a petition like
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: everyone in the UK did, where they were like, we
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: want another general election. Two point nine million people jumped
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: on the UK Parliament's website and sign that petition, saying
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: we know kiss Dama is only a few months old,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: but we want another trip around the mulberry Bush. Please,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Canadians get on it. You've already seen it done. You
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: guys can pull it off as well. To Germany now,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: where just a week after we saw similar scenes in France,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: they've decided to go to a snap election.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Get this.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Chancellor Olaf Schultz has lost confidence vote, but he put
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: it up himself. He took it to the lower House saying, look,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: please just vote me out so we can get on
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: with having an earlier election. He required three hundred and
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: sixty seven votes of no confidence to get it across
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: the line and to succeed in his aim. Three hundred
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: and ninety four MPs obliged shim.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: And said, yes, we're kicking you to the curb. Goodbye, buddy.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Germany is now going to an election in February, nine
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: months before it was scheduled. This is really interesting, Gabby,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: because these guys know better than anyone that in September
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: of this year, the AfD, which is called the far
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: right party in Germany, won the state election. And I
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: think this can be summed up in one word immigration.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: We've seen successive parties throughout Europe doing really well when
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: they take a hard line on immigration, and it's the
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: AfD who have said the immediate expulsion of all illegal
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: immigrants is going to be their number one priority should
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: they take power. I think obviously the incumbent government has
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: realized they are on the nose to the extent that
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: they're literally bowing out at this point.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, they've now got to care to hear government until
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: February and that, as you say, too much immigration has
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: really been the issue here as well as the economy.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I're looking at the economy. It hasn't grown in five years.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: And you know, it's the same kind of in countries
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: that we've seen like in America where you've got the
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: cost of living crisis, the immigration crisis, but the border
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: over their high fuel and that what's happening is the
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Trump effects. People are saying no, they're voting with their
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: with their pockets as they typically do, and now people
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: are going to the right and this is what's happening
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: in Germany.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: Again. It's the same thing, isn't it. When economics are good,
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: when economic growth is strong, when unemployment is low and
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: everyone's got a well paying job, everyone is open hearted
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: and wants people to come in and don't have a problem.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: The minute a crisis hits, suddenly people I look around
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: for someone to blame, but all they care about is
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: that economic stuff. And I think the problem here is AfD.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: They are a bad bunch of dudes. They are nasty,
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: nasty people, and they are unlike other populist right parties
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: in Europe. They have seriously concerning links and similarities to
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: the Nazi Party.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I know what you're.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Referring to, Joe, but they are not the party of
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: nineteen forty five.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: They have well I would hope not, but they But they.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Have, and they have expelled people who spouse those values.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. But the fact the fact that
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: they're in there, and the fact that they're in there
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: in the first place, and the fact that they're spouting
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: those things. They have the slogans that are similar to
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: ones used in Nazi Germany, and so these are.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Bad, bad, bad, Like what can you quote any.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: I think it's Deutschland, US in the German which is
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: Dutch Land, or Germany over all, which is.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Which that is just like America.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: First, it's not it has very strong Nazi connotations. So anyway,
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: this is recent you're saying, yep, yep, this is the
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: last few years. So these again, these guys are bad news.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: Do not defend them, do not. But again, this is
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: what happens if center right parties or indeed center left
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: parties failed to control immigration and there are open borders
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: and people do feel overwhelmed, then parties like this will
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: rise up. So in a sense, it's incumbent on mainstream
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: parties to almost do their dirty work for them, to
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: make sure that you don't end up being so incomfident
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: that you're swept away and that these parties come in
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: because it is it is very scary. And the other
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: thing is that German germanness, if you like. And again
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: this was especially under the Nazis, was not something that
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: was seen as being conferred by citizenship. It was very
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: much seen as something that was conferred by blood, that
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: you were born a German, and that being a German
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: had certain racial characteristics. So again, when they talk about
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: expelling all illegal immigrants or foreigners or whatever.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I think that's perfectly fair, he said.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: I know, but it has what country.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't love to be rid of all illegal immigrants some
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: parts sort of.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: That sort of stuff has a particular resonance in Germany
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: that is far more scary than saying it over all.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: But you're not talking, you know, Germany, until just a
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: few decades ago, in the reconstruction of post war the
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: German identity was one of a racially pure aryan German,
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: not someone who had a German passport.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: We know this, but I do think it is a
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: stretch to say that this is essentially the same party.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: They're just kind of going out.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: It's the very they have links and they have similar
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: rhetoric to a party that emerged in Germany not so
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: long ago.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: It was a very long time ago.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Actually, I don't think you can tire people with a
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: brush from nineteen forty five.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Well, the founder of IFDA left it because he was
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: so concerned about the elements.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Like I say, they have expelled members who espouse the
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: values that you're hearkening back.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: They're clearly a very different party.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe they should rebrand, just rebrand, it's way too.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: Controversial, not the Nazi Party.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: To Ireland now where speaking of immigration, people in the town.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Of ath Loun has had a huge win.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: You may be aware of these massive refugee accommodations popping
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: up in towns all over Ireland.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: If I had a dollar for.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Every time I've seen a community of everyday Irish people
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: begging police, do not empty your buses here, do not
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: do this. They are not welcome here. These are illegals.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: We do not want them in our country town. I
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: would never have to work again in my entire life.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: So these guys in af Lound decided, you know what,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: We're going to take this to the High Court. We
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: do not want more refugee accommodation in our patch and
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: get this the state folded.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: They won. Of course, what this sets.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Is a really interesting precedent for all the other down
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: to undoubtedly are sitting up taking note and saying, mmmm.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Where now to for us?
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Here's a short video of those in a flown celebrating
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: the win.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Now while they're being flooded with immigrants.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: You'd think that surely these refugees would be so grateful
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: to be there at least, But if this lady is
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: anything to go by, no they're not.
• 36:38
  Speaker 10: These are one of the women that we were moved
• 36:41
  Speaker 10: from siri Ac to this assolated dump in Dendrum Tipaw.
• 36:50
  Speaker 10: We had to clean our houses first before moving in
• 36:53
  Speaker 10: their houses as good spader worms.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: It was very dating.
• 36:59
  Speaker 10: There's no gate, as you can see the Secure Infrastructure
• 37:04
  Speaker 10: Bill to keep herself. There are no buses to travel
• 37:07
  Speaker 10: to shops or to the nearby our town. There's no
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: school to accommodates of our children, and schools are opening
• 37:15
  Speaker 10: soon now we must be on the waiting list. There's
• 37:20
  Speaker 10: no employment situated in the area for assisting us with employment.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: How's that for gratitude.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: You come here with nothing, You have a roof over
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: your head, you are provided for, and all you can
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: do is complain, if not.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: Even run someone out of town these days without them
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: be chicken mudy.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Is it any wonder that Adlund's like, you know what,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: We're just not putting you up. You're not even happy
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: to be here. We've got to go to an ad
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: break now. But when we come back, this amazing case
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: regarding the convicted killer of George Floyd's continues with bombshell new.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Revelations, Will we ride back? Welcome back? Well.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: The case of Derek Chauvin, the man convicted of killing
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: George Floyd, has now resumed after a judge has decided
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: that his team can look into the medical records of
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: George Floyd. The questions now being asked pertain to a
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: heart condition that George Floyd may have had, which may
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: have aggravated been aggravated by.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: A rare tumor he had.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Therefore, did he actually die of asphyxiation due to the
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: pressure Derek Chauvin, the police officer.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Had applied to the back of his neck.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Here is Liz Colin talking to Jack Prosbec explaining the situation.
• 38:44
  Speaker 11: This is a federal judge who has finally come back
• 38:48
  Speaker 11: approving this motion that has been in the works four
• 38:51
  Speaker 11: months to examine heart tissue in George Floyd and also
• 38:56
  Speaker 11: some fluids from George Floyd's.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Body as well well.
• 39:00
  Speaker 11: And basically this is related to what's called a periganglioma.
• 39:04
  Speaker 11: This was discussed in the Fall of Minneapolis. Some doctors
• 39:07
  Speaker 11: came forward during Derek Chauvin's case to say, why wasn't
• 39:12
  Speaker 11: this tumor tested in George Floyd. In many cases it
• 39:15
  Speaker 11: can lead to sudden cardiac death. They brought this information forward,
• 39:21
  Speaker 11: his attorney at the time did not act upon this information,
• 39:25
  Speaker 11: according to court documents, and also the judge, Judge Peter Cahill,
• 39:29
  Speaker 11: ignored it as well. So in this motion, the judge
• 39:33
  Speaker 11: has now said that this testing can take place.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: How would you feel if you were Derek Chauvin? So
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: the judges dismiss this. Initially, Derek pleaded guilty because he
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: wanted to reduce sentence. Who wouldn't under the circumstances. The
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: other part of this bombshell news is that it's found
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: that George Floyd wasn't actually dead until at least an
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: hour after Derek Chauvin was seen on the pavement applying
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: the pressure.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: To the back of his neck.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: We know this because in the autopsy report, it shows
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: that an anti morton blood was collected by the HHC
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: at least an hour after he was taken into care.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: George Floyd that was taken into care.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Now, anti morton.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Blood is the opposite of post mortem anything. This means
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: that George was still alive while receiving this medical attention.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: It's going to be very interesting, Gabby, to see where
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: this case goes from here.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank goodness this case is being reopened because it
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: really appears that Derek Chauvin's lawyer has completely mucked up
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: his defense.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: CAPTI.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: You know, Chauvin claims that if he knew that this
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: evidence could have been tested in trial, then he wouldn't
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: have pleaded guilty, you know, And I think it sounds
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: pretty critical that it does get tested, that it's he
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: was a lie for an hour.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: It's very hospital.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: This is this is a pathologist who came forward unsolicited
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: to Chauvin's lawyer and the lawyer and the lawyer just said,
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: so he could just be a crank, Like it's good
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: that they're reopening, but I wouldn't be if I was
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: Derek Chauvin, I wouldn't be pinning my hopes. I wouldn't
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: be packing my suit case.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: But this is the autopsy report.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: But clearly if you were directions, that's the autopsy report
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: that shows you would because he didn't finally die until
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: an hour afterwards, but he could well like the thing
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: that killed That doesn't make that he had.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: This aggregating factor in the form of this tumor.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: That's right, And but the fact that the pathologist was
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: not involved in the case came forward unsolicited off this.
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: Maybe he's brilliant, maybe he's got it, but he may very.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Well just be passionate about justice because the.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Very old facts by both Chauvin's lawyer previously.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: Even to even make it to the judge.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: The Liz Colin said there that both of them dismissed it.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: But I don't think the lawyer even brought it as
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: part of the evidence.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Derek wasn't aware even.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: It seems like that the lawyer's kind of stuff.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: That's the lawyer has obviously thought this is just not credible.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: This is not going to help our case, and we're
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: better off just taking the plea buget. Maybe he was
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: just feeling lazy it wanted to knock off early, or
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: maybe he just thought this is just totally genial. But anyway,
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: let's hear it out. Let's see if it is. And
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: let's see if Derek Chauvin thought he killed George Floyd
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: but then found out afterwards that maybe he hadn't.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Well, he didn't really have much of a case left
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: they'd fought it to the nth degree, and it was
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: kind of like, well, you have to be responsible, so
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: either you get a really big sentence or you just
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: plead guilty. So naturally he took the most obvious road,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: and now it's.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: I can't breathe, I can't breathe.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Well, new evidence reports that he may yet get off.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Who knows. It's just very interesting.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Given this, of course was the case. This was the
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: death that sparked the BLM riots that burnt entire cities
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: to the ground, most notably Minneapolis, and really helped the
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Democrats in the.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty election.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Staying in the US, now, the New York state mandates
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: the removal of all indigenous imagery that has anything to
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: do with school sporting teams. Yes, it's more woke nonsense.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: So the state of New York has followed up on
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: schools using any kind of indigenous imagery linked to their
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: school teams.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: So here's a list.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Of before and after name changes. The Raiders are going
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: to be called the wolf Pack. Indians are going to
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: be called the Ravens. Chiefs will now be the Cougars Raiders.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: How is red raiders bad? Is now red in green.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Those are just two colors. It's not a very compelling
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: name change. And thunderbirds now eagles.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, the would.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Whose quality of life has been improved by this helped
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: me out?
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the students, how how are the students really
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: benefiting from this?
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: I was looking at some of the reaction to this.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Online and people were saying, what a waste of taxpayer funds?
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: Can you can teachers get back to teaching.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Can the focus be on actually what they're learning at
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: schools instead of this woke nonsense.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: I don't understand, like the chiefs, like they could be fire.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Chiefs, they could be any kind of chief.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: And schools don't have a choice here.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Why can they do this?
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: Why can't they just haven't changed red Raiders to raiders
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: because the La Raiders.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: They were no longer Red Raiders, just.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: Raiders and the whites Bread. So there's now a school
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: that is in the process of also changing its nickname,
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: the Whitespread Central School, that is the whitesp Warriors. Even
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: warriors has to go because they are indigen.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: But again, just like cheefs, you can be any kind
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: of warriors.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: It's not exactly.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: Also, why is it bad to be warrior, Like, isn't
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: that part of your culture that you should be celebrated? Like, yeah,
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: we're fears.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I would have feel worried.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: It seems you can't kill one's faces because if nobody's
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: named in the names, then they're like, there's not enough representation.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: So people do these kinds of things.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: And then they're like, how dare you represent us?
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: This is cultural appropriation. We've got to go to a
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: break now.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: But when we come back, if you're struggling with Christmas cheer,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: I've got sixty seconds for you that I guarantee will
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: get you in the mood the front. Imagine you're in
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: your eighties and you see one of Elon Musk's Tesla
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: cyber trucks drive by. Can you imagine what an otherworldly
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: experience you'd be having. Gabby, this lady, this grandma in
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: the US, cannot believe her.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: I oh, I love the reaction from this grandmother because
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: we've seen those these Tesla cyber trucks hitting at the
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: road and they've been getting mixed reaction.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Many people love them.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: I know there's a big waiting list for them, but
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: just check out how this grandmother responded.
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: That thing behind guys, it's out of Star Wars?
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: What is there?
• 46:25
  Speaker 9: What kind of care is there that is a Tesla sub? Why?
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: God, wow, this is recidulous. How about word?
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: It does look like it's out of Star Wars, like
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: one of the spaceships.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: By god, who would drive that?
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, that is so brue.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: The funny thing is Elon Musk is going to see
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: that it's going viral on titter, so he's going to
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: see that reaction.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: It's pretty good and looks she's probably not the target market.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: If she's thinking that hipping cool, then you.
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: Know Grandy's getting an That's what I think.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: How much do they set you back as well?
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Like you've got to pay a lot for the privilege.
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I wonder I want if I'm going
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: to have to drive an electric car. I wan an
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: electric car that looks like the biggest gas guzzler, the
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: biggest petrol inhaling monster truck.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Well, just so you're going to offend all the lefties anyway,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I'm just because it looks.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: Good like that does like I'm with the Grandma. It
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: does kind of just look weird. It looks like, oh no,
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: it does.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: It looks like something out of Star Wars, exactly like
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: she said. But I promised you sixty seconds to get
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: you into the Christmas spirit.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: If you're feeling more stress than blessed.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Right now, let this choir of beautiful boys remind you
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: it's Christmas time.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: I could have done better.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Heavenly gotta give that girl's bunks. I absolutely love it.
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: I think that fourth kid from the left up the
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: back was a little bit off.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Just doesn't it just show up gabbing all the like
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: modern jingle bell, jingle bell that is utterly heavenly.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely transit.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: I saw someone say, you know, bring back modern Christmas music,
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: and everyone are saying no, and it's Merry Christmas.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: By the way, their voices are so beautiful.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Please there's no competition. That's a wrap from us. We'll
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: be back tomorrow. Coming up next. Sky News documentary m
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  Speaker 2: H three seven zero ten years on