Latest / Petty and Unbothered / #33 - Not so Petty Halloween Origin Story
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- Robin Axline: All right. Yeah. Tita Lors: Welcome back everybody. This is Petty and Unbothered, where we ask each other what was the pettiest thing we came across this week. I'm Tita Lores and with me is Robin Axeline. Hi. Robin Axline: Hi, hi. Tita Lors: So what was the pettiest thing you've come across this week? Robin Axline: I would have to say at the gym in the cardio room this gal came in and she noticed like everybody was on the treadmills and I guess that's what she wanted to do. So she was like did this loud sigh like like that and then just kind of paced behind us and I feel like she was like Tita Lors: my gosh, rushing you guys. Robin Axline: I feel like she was like almost like checking the time, like how long we had been on it. It just seemed like I was like I almost felt like going like covering the time or whatever because I was like, that's none of your business, like go away. Like I don't know what she was, but that's how it felt 'cause she was like kind of walking like this. Then she she just kept like cuffing and puffing and then just sat down on the floor. like the treadmills are here and there's like Tita Lors: Like behind, yeah. Robin Axline: a little space, like a rubber mat kind of vibes, and then behind that is ellipticals. And so usually when I go, if people are on the tread and I don't feel like doing anything else, I'll just hop on the elliptical until somebody like leaves. but she did not do that. She plopped herself down on the floor in that little section behind the treadmills, just like her jacket and her water and everything, and just like huffed sitting there long time. And I was like, you know, me, I'm just like, well, maybe I should just hurry up and feel bad now and all this. And then I was like Tita Lors: No, you should stay longer. Robin Axline: I it did Tita Lors: Ha ha Robin Axline: cross my mind, I was always thinking just for that, you know. But I just finished my workout and like I didn't rush myself because I think I was so tempted to. But then I was like, Well, I am not done yet, so but just like I don't know, I felt like the pettiness of her just like overly letting us know that that's w what she wanted to do was like insane to me. And I'm More sensitive to that kind of thing. So I think I probably noticed it more than other people. I don't know. But anyways, that's my story. Tita Lors: Hm. Yeah. And you're sticking to it. Robin Axline: Yeah. What about you? Did you have any petty encounters? Tita Lors: nothing like that, but I have been, as you know, doing a lot of work on my new IG account and trying Robin Axline: Mm. Tita Lors: to actually create content and crap for for that that's more like in the vein of being a therapist and less thirst trap, more therapy. Robin Axline: No. No. Yeah. Tita Lors: Yeah, so like letting go of the other one, the older one. so as I was doing that I've been like specifically liking, you know, you build your your for you page one like at a time. Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: So a lot of this content that I'm receiving now is like about Filipino culture or about therapy or how like they come together or like the or it's other therapists also who are trying to create content and support each other. So as I was doing that I came across this real That was like, the ghosts and ghoulies of the Philippine folklore, like especially the women, they're actually originally before colonization. They were protector spirits and not demonic spirits. that we're supposed to be afraid of, or that like when I grew up, it was like a threat. if you don't do that, the the Aswang, the like ghosts are gonna come get you, they're gonna do this to you. Right? Or if you go over there, here's what's gonna happen. Like the the Duende are gonna kidnap you or whatever. Right. So it was like threats of harm for not following Robin Axline: Mm. Tita Lors: directions. You know, and then as I mentioned in previous episodes, Filipino women used to hold powerful roles in the community, right? They were spiritual leaders and healers and all of that stuff. But of course that doesn't fit into like the Spanish colonial ideals and faiths. So what do colonizers do? They bastardize the local beliefs and traditions. And in order to assimilate that, like the Christian, the Catholic beliefs into the Filipino culture, they turn protector spirits into and so yay, that was fun. So so Robin Axline: Right. That sounds fascinating. Tita Lors: it was really cool to learn that, like, but also it's annoying to realize more and more that like pre colonial Philippine culture is amazing and beautiful, but because our history was literally burned because they want us to believe that we had no history, that we were illiterate and like basically useless savages before they came in and saved us from ourselves, right? They as they always do, as any colonialist colo colonizers do, they just burn out and destroy your culture and your history and they bastardize your culture and insert their own practices and beliefs and whatever. So Yay. Yeah. Robin Axline: So yay. that's so crazy because like literally this past week in the readings for one of my classes and also one of the discussions was around that. kind of like erasing history and not promoting literacy to you know certain marginalized groups, so because like knowledge is power in a way. So yeah. So that's like really top of mind for me. So it's funny you mention that. Tita Lors: Yeah. And not like we're trying to do that now in any specific states where we're not letting children learn about their history. Bathing book burning books? That's that would never happen here. Robin Axline: banning books and yeah never burning books Ha ha ha That's crazy. Not like we learned anything from history or anything. Tita Lors: not that we man or that Robin Axline: Let's Tita Lors: like the things that we did learn were correct. Robin Axline: Right. Tita Lors: God, like there's so many things that I'm going back now and being like, that that's what happened, but that's not what happened. Right? Robin Axline: Mm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Tita Lors: Like that maybe n is not the reason why that happened, or that's not exactly how that happened, or like there's specific details that just so happen to go missing somehow for Robin Axline: Mm-hmm. Tita Lors: some reason. Robin Axline: Crazy, crazy. boy. Okay. Hmm. I know it's like a a pagan holiday of sorts and like before pumpkins there was like turnips because it was like a lantern into the underworld or somet I don't know what it's something like that. That's pretty much it. Tita Lors: Uh-huh. Yeah. So it's now a pagan or considered like a modern pagan celebration. right, but before it is a Celtic celebration or tradition. Robin Axline: yes, San Sandheim or Tita Lors: Sawin. Robin Axline: Soin, yeah. Tita Lors: Mm-hmm. Yeah, so much like the Philippine history, there isn't much known about the original Celtic traditions. And I'm gonna sneeze now. So what we do know about Sawin is mostly through the eyes of Christians who came in and like we're just gonna say colonized Ireland. right? Because Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: their traditions were taken from them and written over and destroyed as well. So most of what we know about Celtic culture or traditions comes from the lens of like Christianity. like any good colonizers, even if there was written tradition around these practices, it was probably destroyed and their beliefs and practices were the beliefs of like the Christian beliefs and practices were assimilated into the local culture in an effort to convert the locals to Christianity and into believing what they believe. Robin Axline: Yeah, I think it is something like that. Yeah. I just always get it mixed up. 'Cause there's the band with the same name, so I yeah. Anyways. Tita Lors: Okay, so Celtic religious festivals are Sawin was a Celtic religious festival that marked the end of summer and the beginning of winter. and so like in most places, the longer days there's more like that was more dangerous and there was a lot more fear around that because, you know, there's no electricity and so y there's like less it's also there's no there's less harvesting and people have to like start being more mindful about like being outside because it's dark and you know, scary things happen in the dark. So in some regions it was when they celebrated the beginning of a new year. Yeah. and it was typically a gathering of people preparing their community for these longer and colder days of the winter. So it was about community. Robin Axline: Okay. Tita Lors: Mm-hmm. So because of the so since Sawin and or since Sawin coincided with a Christian celebration called All Hollow Tide or Hollow Me's Robin Axline: What my god. Tita Lors: They kind of just got merged together. I know. Isn't that such a fun word? Hollow Mies. We will now Robin Axline: Yes, hollow mees. Tita Lors: be referring to Halloween as Hollow Mies. Robin Axline: Yes, yes. It's official. Tita Lors: Yes. So Hollow Mies is a three-day dedication to remembering the dead. It starts on all Hollows Eve. And then it ends on All Souls Day. So the thirty-first all the way to November 2nd. Robin Axline: Second. Tita Lors: Mm-hmm. and so now so because those two celebrations were merged, and apparently also there's like one other Roman celebration that I forgot what it's called because I didn't write it down. that got merged in as well. And it's about like, you know. feasting on cer like fruits and veggies and like all that stuff. I didn't look into it. but you can if you want to and then you can tell us about it. Yeah. Robin Axline: Yeah. Call us. Tell us. Tita Lors: so because these two are merged together and because we don't know much about Sowin itself, like the origins of it, Modern paganists now use this holiday to honor the dead in similar ways and practices as other cultures like Mexico. Like yeah, Dia de los Muertos and things like that. Yeah. Robin Axline: Hmm. More toes. Yeah. Tita Lors: so that's all I know from what I've got together. But here are some things that might be traced to Sawin, which you brought up one of them. The carving of pumpkins. Right. So it used to be that it they would hollow out the turnips, carve some faces on it, and they were used as lanterns to of course protect against evil spirits, protect them them from protect their homes from evil spirits entering and all that stuff. And Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: then the wearing of mask, allegedly it's not like confirmed, but you would wear masks to hide or ward to hide from or ward off evil spirits. Robin Axline: Hmm, interesting. Tita Lors: Yeah. and then trick-or-treating. This comes from originally similar to Hispanic culture, people would leave food out for the roaming spirits. Robin Axline: Okay. Tita Lors: Excuse me. So like more Hispanic, Latin culture, it's you're leaving food out for your loved ones and you have like the altars for your loved ones to come and visit with you. but for Sawin y it was just all the spirits because right the the veil is thin and so everyone's Robin Axline: Right. Tita Lors: passing through. But the Christian church decided that they didn't like that. So instead they replaced Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: it yeah they replaced it with soul cakes. and you would go you would go a souling. Go Robin Axline: Ha. Tita Lors: like get soul cakes from your neighborhood instead. Robin Axline: Hmm. Tita Lors: Mm-hmm. Yes. and then Halloween in America has been interesting for sure. In the early 1800s, Amer Americans wanted to move away from the ghost and ghouly traditions and they wanted to create a holiday that was centered around community and neighborly get togethers, which is exactly what it's actually supposed to be. Robin Axline: Don't Tita Lors: So weird. They're like creating something completely new that's never happened before. Robin Axline: So difficult. Okay. Tita Lors: It's like Christopher Columbus all of a sudden, like Robin Axline: yeah. Tita Lors: discovering something new again. Anyways, so Halloween became more focused on children and games and family things and seasonal foods and they started discouraging parents from connecting like frightening or grotesque or spiritual imagery with Halloween. Yeah, which worked because now it's not like that. yeah. And then in nineteen thirty three there was a black Halloween. Apparently a whole bunch of men were basically rioting in the streets because of years of economic depression, or as history dot com says it, economic ruin. some cities were considering just canceling Halloween altogether. They're like, This is bullshit, shenanigans. Like, we're not doing this anymore. But instead, in nineteen fifties they were able to decrease all of the pranking and the debauchery around this time. and it's now what it is, or it's closer to what it is today, which is a celebration around kids. And the practices of like trick or treating kind of returned as an inexpensive way, in quotes, for communities to share in the celebration. And now Halloween is a holiday where Americans spend over eleven billion dollars annually. Second only Robin Axline: Yaoć. Tita Lors: to Christmas. Yeah. Robin Axline: Ooh, second to Christmas. Huh, interesting. Yeah, for real. Tita Lors: Yeah. So that's Halloween everybody. I hope have a really great I hope you have a lot of fun ticker treating. Robin Axline: Whoa. Tita Lors: Yeah. Robin Axline: Ha ha ha. Tita Lors: yeah. I thought that was really interesting. Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: I hope you all did too. Robin Axline: Yeah. Makes sense. Tita Lors: Yeah. Yeah, at least that's what I gathered from what it seems that and like yes there's the spiritual aspect to it, which would be interesting to look into more. but yeah, I hope we we think about that as we go out a trick-or-treating. Thoughts, opinions. Robin Axline: No, I love origin stories. and it's it's interesting how like it seems a lot of those stories came from like Europe. but then but then culturally it's kind of worked its way into like different different places. Everyone's kind of landed on something. for me it's like one of my favorite holidays, and I also love the tradition of Dia de los Muertos. Like when I lived in California, I used to go down to like Alvera Street and go to their celebration of that. There'd be like some altars with food and people walking on stilts dressed like skeletons and things and like all the marigolds are one of my favorite things to look Tita Lors: Mm-hmm. yeah. Robin Axline: at. Tita Lors: Yeah. I love the color. Yeah. Robin Axline: Totally. Tita Lors: Like every t a and and not even necessarily during Dia de los Muertos, but like anytime you go to Oliveira Street, it's like rich with color and like the like just imagery and it's so beautiful. I don't even know how to explain it. Robin Axline: Yeah, yeah. I mean, gosh, yeah. it something about it is just stunning. Tita Lors: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I definitely like it a lot. Robin Axline: Yeah, but yeah, thanks for sharing that quick little history on on all of it. Tita Lors: Yeah. So Robin Axline: good to know where it came from and I also like the community of it all. So that's all I have to say. Tita Lors: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I yeah. I like how we circled back to what it was originally meant for. Robin Axline: Yes. Right. But on a different on their own terms or whatever. Tita Lors: Yeah, exactly. We're not respecting the culture. Robin Axline: No, no, no, no, no. That's too much. Tita Lors: Exactly. We're we're not respecting the culture, but we we do like the traditions, so let's definitely take that and run with Robin Axline: Right. Tita Lors: it. Ugh. All right. So I forgot to put the timer on. I have no idea how much time we have left, but we are going to go into two-story wait. Yeah. Two sentence horror stories. Yes, there's Robin Axline: Woo. Okay. Tita Lors: there's a lot. so let's pick let's say five. You can pick five numbers between one and twenty-five, and those will be Robin Axline: Okay. Tita Lors: the the stories that I'm going to say to you. Robin Axline: Okay, I'm gonna do Friday the thirteenth, so thirteen. Ooh, this is hard. Eighteen. Well that's what I was gonna pick next, 'cause I like the number five too. My gosh. I know. And then I was gonna say seven. Tita Lors: my gosh, me too. Robin Axline: those are two of my favorite Tita Lors: Okay. Robin Axline: numbers. Tita Lors: Me too. I know. Okay, one more number. Robin Axline: Crazy. one more. shoot. Let's go number one. Numero uno. Tita Lors: Ooh, okay. I'm gonna do an extra one. I'm gonna do twenty two. Just to have something in the twenties. Mm-hmm. Robin Axline: Okay. yeah, true that. Okay. Tita Lors: Okay. Let's see. Number 13. After months of planning, I finally managed to kill the alien. When the meteor began to head towards the planet, I realized I'd killed the only one who could stop it. Robin Axline: Whoa. Tita Lors: I know. Yikes. They're like the switch up on these the few that Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: I've read have been really good. So this I Robin Axline: Huh. Tita Lors: didn't read that one earlier. That's Yup. Robin Axline: I've never heard of this style, but it's cool. Tita Lors: I know. Okay. I found pictures of my young self and my family in the basement. What do you think happens next? Robin Axline: they're a ghost. Or Tita Lors: I just moved into the house today. Robin Axline: Whoa. Tita Lors: Yeah, I was waiting. Robin Axline: I just had a whoa. Tita Lors: Yep, could you imagine? Robin Axline: No. Tita Lors: Like, have you ever does any of your family has any of your family ever been there? That's so creepy. Robin Axline: Yeah, that is creepy. Tita Lors: No. If I found pictures of myself, like let's just say in a completely different state and I found pictures of myself, immediately I'm walking away. Especially in the basement. Robin Axline: Chills. Tita Lors: They're staying there. Yes, chills. They're staying there. I'm calling my mommy. Like Robin Axline: Ha ha ha ha. Tita Lors: Have we ever lived here? Robin Axline: Right? Tita Lors: I'm so scared. Robin Axline: do we have family there that we didn't know about or something? man. Crazy. Tita Lors: I know That's so creepy. Okay. Grandma always made us wipe our feet three times on the welcome mat, never two or four. What do you think happens next? Robin Axline: two number four. Hm, I don't know. That's that's I'm stumped. Tita Lors: I only forgot her rule once, and now the house itself won't let me leave. Robin Axline: I was wondering why she was doing that. Tita Lors: I know, I'm like, has your grandma ever left the house? Robin Axline: Yeah, that's true. Or d is your grandmother a witch or something? Yeah. Tita Lors: Mm-hmm. Ooh. Did she cast the spell? Okay. this one reminds me of like a what are the stories that like are creepy st creepypasta stories. Robin Axline: No. Tita Lors: okay. I found a voicemail from myself sobbing and whispering, don't Now, something that looks exactly like me is begging outside, saying it forgot its keys. Robin Axline: Mm. It's so scary. Tita Lors: I have like because I you I'm Filipino, so I grew up believing in ghosts and and I've had my own experiences too of all of that stuff. every time I look out the window I'm convinced I'm going to see something scary. Robin Axline: man. At nighttime or just any time? Tita Lors: Yeah. Usually at nighttime. but I'm always convinced and and there's so many freaking windows everywhere I turn or especially when I was a kid, we lived in this one two story house and was always so scared to go downstairs by myself. And of course my mom would send me downstairs by myself to get her water or something. She forgot something, blah blah blah. And I'm like, I don't want to Robin Axline: Poor little Tita Lors: You can't tell me, Robin Axline: Laura. Tita Lors: right? You can't tell me that the freaking a swang are gonna get me and then expect me to wanna go downstairs by myself. I'm so scared. and I was always convinced in my head that I was gonna open the door and there was gonna be like a a decapitated head just there for whatever reason or like Robin Axline: Mm-hmm. Tita Lors: something creepy was going to happen and I would get whatever she wanted and then run back upstairs. Robin Axline: Yeah, but whoa. That's kind of scary. Then you're kinda like, hmm, maybe that some of that made sense. Tita Lors: Maybe, right? Like a lot of creepy things would happen too in that house. Robin Axline: Wow. Tita Lors: or my grom the house that my grandma lived in, a lot of creepy things happened there. But there was a lot of bad energy in Juju there that I later found out about. Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: Yeah. and then my brother told me this one story that every time I think about it, it just shivers, chills up my spine. it's terrifying. I'm not gonna tell it now, but Robin Axline: Okay. Tita Lors: But maybe maybe maybe later. That's so creepy. Like how much time do we have? I have no idea. Okay. Robin Axline: Okay. Right. Tita Lors: Let's do the next one. I said that one already. Okay. Doot doot. alright. We were so happy that the first message from space was high. We spent forty years constantly blasting signals into the cosmos before receiving the second part of that message. D E the first part of the message was H I. Robin Axline: that's really scary. No, that's Tita Lors: Yeah, that Yeah, could you imagine? Robin Axline: like the second kind of like outer space one too. Or or I guess, I don't know. The one about the alien that died and couldn't is the only one that could Tita Lors: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That could have saved the the thing from crashing to the earth. Uhhuh. Yeah. Robin Axline: Yeah. Dang. This one was like pretty trippy. Tita Lors: Mm-hmm. I'm glad you said that one, because that one was a good one. There's Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: another one that I read earlier. okay. I'm just gonna share this one because this one creeped me out. when I read it. I asked my son who he was talking to in his room. And he said, the man who looks like you but smiles too wide. He sleeps in my bed now because that thing is still in his. Robin Axline: Bro. Tita Lors: Yeah. Robin Axline: Weird Smiles too wide. Tita Lors: Yes. Robin Axline: It's amazing how short these are, but then you get this visual like immediately. Tita Lors: Yeah, exactly. Ugh, gross. I can't. Okay, this was the last one. I said twenty-two. I was closing my night shift at Spirit Halloween when I heard the animatronic scream behind me. Only I had just unplugged the power strip. Robin Axline: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, nothing's like top of mind right now, but I know I've had really some strange, paranormal things happen. And also just kinda like eerie feelings about things. trying to think of like one top of mine but it's like like not yeah, it's not really coming to me. I've had things like where this is a little bit different, but like I've had like a dream and then I woke up and then like kind of like the thing in the dream kind of happened IRL. Like in those like waking hours, it's like, what the heck? Like how did I know that? Tita Lors: Yeah. Yeah, I've had that happen too. Robin Axline: And then also like there were some ghost people that went to, you know, the mission system in California. the mission closest to where I grew up had a lot of ghost stories and like they were actually on one of those like ghost hunter shows. and so like I don't know if it got into my head or what, but at nighttime I had been there and then I'd gone into some of the rooms and I really did feel like a weird energy. Something like there's one the captain's bedroom. Like people had seen him like sitting on the bed before and Sh stuff like that. Tita Lors: my gosh. Yeah. So I have always had a lot of like things happen and every time I I'm around other people with like open third eyes or like who have spiritual like practices and stuff like that, they're always like, You do too, you see it too, right? And I'm like, No, get away from me Robin Axline: Yik. Tita Lors: I or like that one person even was like, she she has the gift, doesn't she? And and my mom's like, Yeah and I'm like, Shut up. I don't wanna talk about it. It's so scary. I know. So like Robin Axline: Mom, stop. man. Tita Lors: with one person I was like, Yeah, but it's like always scary, so I just don't like to like tread too much in that area or that place. Even though Robin Axline: Right. Tita Lors: like along with believing that I was a princess, I also believed that I was a witch. Or that I had like 'cause there's no way that I was like experiencing all of this and it was just nothing. Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: so I told her I told her, you know, I've always just been afraid of it because it's always been not so great things that come and say hi or whatever. Robin Axline: Mm. That's crazy. It's nice that you have her to kind of bounce off on, at least with that. Just be like, Does this happen? or And then she kind of knows that Tita Lors: Yeah. Robin Axline: you have like the the shining or whatever it is. Tita Lors: The shiny Yeah. Well no, if it had anything to do with like like scary things, she would just like dismiss it immediately. Just pfft whatever, blah blah blah, you know, that didn't happen or Stuff like that. So I couldn't ask about those things or if I would have like a bad dream or a nightmare or whatever. and I would try to tell her about it. It was like, it's you know, it's just a dream. So whatever happened in your dream it's not gonna happen in real life and I'm like, But I survived in my dream, so what are you trying to say? Robin Axline: I'm here, aren't I? No. Tita Lors: I know man, I'd like lots of scary dreams. Robin Axline: Yeah, same. Tita Lors: Yeah. Ugh, I'm trying think of like what's a good short story of something that's happened that I could share or that I want to share. Okay, I'll tell the story of why I like closed myself off. So in like my it was around the time of like one of my cousins' birthdays and we had all planned to the cousins had all planned to go to Vegas 'cause it's our twenty first and like w it was just gonna be super fun and then, you know, they were both in the hospital and probably not gonna make it. and I think actually anyway, so we were like I was running around trying to find an outfit for the weekend and just My brain was in a lot of different places and this woman, who's like owned a cart, like tarot reading cart or whatever, stops me and she's like, I need to talk to you. There's a presence around you and I was like, I already know Robin Axline: Ha ha ha Tita Lors: seeing it for a long time because the ent like before that and even at that moment too I had been like 'Cause I worked at Express and it was kind of a big shop, store that we were in and I would like I would tell my I was like a manager at the time, so I would tell people, Hey, there's some people who just walked in or there's some people in this area, can you go greet them, see what they're needing, blah blah blah. So I'd send them over and they'd be like, There's no one in the store And Robin Axline: Mm. Tita Lors: I'd be like, They're right not there. So you know Robin Axline: Right now. Like that. Tita Lors: Go about your business and continue your life. If someone does come into the store, please make sure to greet them. And I was like, I'd been telling my mom there is a presence and it's hooded and it's it's always right in my periphery. And I told her one time, like, I think you really need to prepare yourself because whether you like it or not, you're losing one or both. And that's happening sooner than you think. and I had just maybe said that to her and then I got stopped by this person. and I was like, Yeah, I know and she's like, Here's my card and I'm like, No need. Trust me. Robin Axline: Here's my card. Tita Lors: And the rest of the aunties and uncles were like, Go. So we did, had a great time and then, you know, had to do the funeral stuff. Yeah. That That's that is the story around that time. It just got way too scary. There's just too much happening. Like at his funeral, at his wake, at his thing, like there just there was just too much. and I was like, Okay, enough. I have I have my own stuff to deal with. I have way too many things happening right now. Robin Axline: Mm-hmm. Tita Lors: I cannot do this. Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: Yeah. Robin Axline: Interesting. That's wow, that's gonna be a journey, I think. Yeah. I d like yeah, I didn't know about that 'cause you were saying when you close yourself off. Man. I can feel it though, 'cause you know, you've got a lot going on right now. Spinning a lot of plates. Something is like something's a bruin, so I'm excited. Yeah. Man, actually, okay, this is su such an interesting one. the feeling of community when you least expect it happened on Tita Lors: huh. Robin Axline: Saturday. I'd gone to an event and we s saw a sign that there was like an art show, an art opening. And the sign was like funny. It was like AI sucks, come see real art. And the other side was like wine, cheese, and corgies or something. And we're like, corgies? All right, we Tita Lors: cute. Uh-huh. Robin Axline: gotta check this out. So the crazy part is we go into the art show and there's a couple that we know and they were just like hanging out in there and we hadn't seen them in a while and we're just like, What are you doing here? That's so crazy. And so it was just like nice to catch up when you see somebody not trying to plan things because they're kind of like one of those people they're like, we need to get together and then just like never materializes. so Tita Lors: Hm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Robin Axline: this was like nice 'cause it was a surprise. And then what was cool is they're very good about introducing friends to friends, I noticed. And that's kind of like a lost art, I feel like, or some people just don't I I don't know. They just make it weird or awkward or something. Mm. there is that. I wasn't thinking about that, but I was thinking more like people don't I don't know, it's like it's a weird thing because it's like there's people and then there's other couples that they know and they're just kind of standing there like awkward and nobody like introduces themselves. It's just kind of like a weird thing, but I just noticed that this particular couple was like very good at being like, Hey Robin, this is our friend so and so. So and so, this is Robin. It was like just very like Tita Lors: Mm-hmm. Robin Axline: nice and easy and it kind of reminded me like, you know, I need to do that like more. If if that ever happens, I don't know when when, but I don't know. It just was like so so mature Tita Lors: Mm. Robin Axline: and like it wasn't weird. It actually made it better. So I walked away thinking like, Wow, I met all these people and it wasn't hard. And just like that simple move like facilitates something like that. So that's my glimmer. what about yourself? Tita Lors: so I celebrated my fortieth birthday recently at Robin Axline: Mm-hmm. Tita Lors: the time of recording this. thank you. Robin Axline: Happy birthday. Tita Lors: so it's been lovely. I had my friends come together and we it was literally magical because the theme was like practical magic and I made these like giveaways that had a I called it a book of intent. Robin Axline: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Tita Lors: So everyone got a book of intentions, and like different spices that have different practical magic qualities to them. We like the people who stayed a little bit longer together, we made our little potions and whatever for what we were wanting and needing for ourselves and then people who had to leave a little bit earlier there. Hopefully they're gonna do it at home. I don't know. They may or may not do Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: it. but I brought up my tarot cards and my oracle cards and we all like talked about all this stuff and it was just really fun to be in that community. But the biggest thing for me that I took away is I like I was like dress code is pajama party basically. So everybody came in and just like, you know, the basic pajamas, pants and a shirt, blah blah blah. And in my mind I like, I have this like lingerie, flowy dress thing that I wanted to get and then Ryan had got me another one that I like sent him the link to it a while ago. Like, I love this. It's so pretty. So he got it for my birthday. Yay, go Ryan. And so I was like, I can wear this for my party But then at the actual party I started to censor myself and I came when I initially went upstairs to change and come back, I was wearing like basic pajamas. And I was just going to that's just what I was going to wear with everyone else. And one of the friends was like, my gosh, I was expecting you to come down with like this long, flowy, like exactly Robin Axline: What? Tita Lors: what I wanted to wear, like that lingerie type thing. And I was like, I was I was going to. Robin Axline: Wow. Tita Lors: Yeah. And I was like, should I change? Am I gonna change? Am I gonna do this? 'Cause it's kind of see through in some places. or all the places, and just like was so cool and at that moment I was like, I these are the right people. Like Robin Axline: Mm. Tita Lors: I'm over here, I'm censoring myself in my own community, in my own house, thinking I'm not allowed to be who I am because I don't think that they know me like that or that they will accept me like that. And then I I come down and like they know exactly who I am. And and I wasn't showing up as I was and they called it out. And I was like, you're right and it just kind of gave me permission to be who I was and to really Robin Axline: Yeah. Wonderful. That is like the best news I've heard in a long time. You got to like live your vision and be yourself. I wanted to go so bad when I got your invite and I was like, man. Tita Lors: I wish we lived closer. Robin Axline: Same Z. Tita Lors: It would have been so fun. But yeah. Robin Axline: Next time. Tita Lors: Next time. Alright, everyone. As always, it's been a blast. Can you tell us your glimmers? What's something amazing that happened to you today, this week, this month, that is getting you through the hard moments in your life? Send us your recommendations also for the pettiest thing you learned that we can explore more. Maybe send us something about your Halloween stories. Robin Axline: yeah. Try to scare us. Tita Lors: my gosh, don't. Yes, do it. my gosh, so torque. Robin Axline: Yes no, yes no. Tita Lors: I'm excited and terrified. Okay. Robin Axline: Ha ha. Tita Lors: Well, anyways, that's all we've got for today. If you enjoyed hanging out with us, please, please, please subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or Deezer so you don't miss out on our next episode. And until next time, everyone, fuck it. yeah, do it. Robin Axline: and fuck it. Bee boo boo Tita Lors: Let's switch it up. Until next time, everyone. Stay petty. Robin Axline: Fuck it bye bye now.