Latest / The Late Debate / The Late Debate | 11 May
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- 0:03Speaker 1: The Late Debase.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Great to have your company on the Late Debate.
- 0:08Speaker 1: We've got the.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Band back together person with the Nika, the George Caleb
- 0:13Speaker 2: Bond back up for a week away.
- 0:15Speaker 3: How good is it?
- 0:16Speaker 4: I was, of course at the races in Warnable, where
- 0:18Speaker 4: I am this time of year every year. I even
- 0:21Speaker 4: got to the dogs in Warnable.
- 0:23Speaker 5: Or a little gripes Labuige run.
- 0:25Speaker 4: On and you know and shout out to the team
- 0:27Speaker 4: at the Warnable Racing Club. They put on a great
- 0:29Speaker 4: show as always. My mate Pierce's horse ran third Gamboo
- 0:33Speaker 4: in the Grand Annuals, so that was a bit of
- 0:35Speaker 4: a thrill. And you know, we had an elegant sufficiency,
- 0:38Speaker 4: shall we say, over the course of the week.
- 0:40Speaker 5: Wow fun was had Bay or wow.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Well it's nice to have you back babe. So let's
- 0:45Speaker 2: get into the show. Here's what's coming up tonight. Remember
- 0:48Speaker 2: how people used to pop around to your house on
- 0:50Speaker 2: a Saturday just to say hello. Well, and new study
- 0:53Speaker 2: finds the majority of us now think that's incredibly rude.
- 0:56Speaker 2: I'll find out what Danika and Caleb think in a moment.
- 0:59Speaker 2: They were elect in the UK at the weekend. I'm
- 1:01Speaker 2: one of the men elected to the Scottish Parliament isn't
- 1:04Speaker 2: even a British citizen. He's in the UK on a
- 1:07Speaker 2: student visa. Plus, should the AFL's second Sydney team change
- 1:11Speaker 2: their name. Some experts say the Greater Western Sydney Giants
- 1:14Speaker 2: are failing to attract crowds because their name is all wrong.
- 1:18Speaker 1: We'll get to all of.
- 1:19Speaker 2: That and more shortly, but first, people with dyslexia and
- 1:23Speaker 2: ADHD are increasingly being given special privileges when flying. More
- 1:28Speaker 2: than thirty one airlines, including British Airways, and three hundred
- 1:31Speaker 2: airports worldwide now have programs open exclusively to people with
- 1:36Speaker 2: hidden disabilities. Advise the airline you've got dyslexia or ADHD,
- 1:41Speaker 2: and you're given a special lanyard costing about six pounds
- 1:44Speaker 2: in the UK that enables you to skip cues and
- 1:47Speaker 2: to get into loungers for free. And the best part,
- 1:50Speaker 2: you don't need to prove you have a hidden disability.
- 1:53Speaker 1: They just take your word for it.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Disability advocates claim that having ADHD makes a person more
- 1:59Speaker 2: susceptible to noises and overstimulation in the airport. How having
- 2:04Speaker 2: dyslexia affects a person's ability to stand in line. I'm
- 2:07Speaker 2: not sure. Maybe they queue up backwards. Here's influence at
- 2:10Speaker 2: Megan Gray using her hidden disability fast pass that he
- 2:13Speaker 2: throw airport.
- 2:15Speaker 6: First time wearing my hidden disabilities Lneyard in the airport
- 2:18Speaker 6: on the way to Montana for our wedding. Airports are
- 2:21Speaker 6: a really tricky place for me. I find the annoyance
- 2:23Speaker 6: is so overstimulating, and I worry about a lot of
- 2:26Speaker 6: different situations, like my luggage going missing and things like that.
- 2:29Speaker 6: I felt really embarrassed at first, and like a fraud
- 2:31Speaker 6: as I haven't efficiently received my oars and diagnosis yet.
- 2:35Speaker 6: But that's really good to know it because you can
- 2:36Speaker 6: wear it anyway. You don't have to prove anything.
- 2:40Speaker 2: What do you think, Caleb, are going to get yourself
- 2:42Speaker 2: a ADHD fast pass?
- 2:44Speaker 3: Not me. You could probably get one.
- 2:46Speaker 4: I've seen the scripts that you right, okay, you could
- 2:49Speaker 4: get yourself one for dyslexia most probably.
- 2:52Speaker 3: And look, I understand.
- 2:54Speaker 4: That different people have different needs. You know, people in
- 2:57Speaker 4: wheelchairs obviously get treated differently when they go to the air.
- 3:00Speaker 3: Because of logistics or whatever.
- 3:02Speaker 4: But the thing, and I know this is what they say, Well,
- 3:04Speaker 4: it's a hidden disability, so you can't you know, obviously
- 3:08Speaker 4: see what is going on sometimes, but if someone's in
- 3:10Speaker 4: a wheelchair, there's a lead indicator that there's something going on.
- 3:14Speaker 3: Right.
- 3:15Speaker 4: And part of the problem with this, I think, is
- 3:17Speaker 4: that it's an unregulated system and so it is therefore
- 3:21Speaker 4: open to routing. Now, maybe you could say, if it's
- 3:25Speaker 4: only a rut, if you're not in on it, why
- 3:26Speaker 4: don't we all just start wearing the lanyards and you know,
- 3:30Speaker 4: let's see if we can get the freebies. I mean, look,
- 3:33Speaker 4: if it's simply that you know, someone's autistic or whatever
- 3:35Speaker 4: and they have a problem dealing with crowds and they say, okay,
- 3:38Speaker 4: we'll move you through the que quicker, it's probably not
- 3:40Speaker 4: going to make a great.
- 3:41Speaker 3: Difference to my life.
- 3:42Speaker 4: But there's people who have been talking about this who've
- 3:45Speaker 4: used these services and called up their airline and said,
- 3:48Speaker 4: you know what, the ADHD or dyslexia or whatever, and
- 3:52Speaker 4: they've been given free access to the airport lounges, which
- 3:56Speaker 4: I can't get and maybe if I put the lanyard on,
- 3:58Speaker 4: I can get it. But free access to the lounges,
- 4:01Speaker 4: which of course you get free grog and food and.
- 4:03Speaker 3: All sorts of stuff in there.
- 4:04Speaker 4: They've been offered free meals on the flight if they're
- 4:08Speaker 4: over a certain distance or time simply because they have
- 4:12Speaker 4: ADHD or some.
- 4:13Speaker 3: Other condition like this. And I'm not sure what.
- 4:17Speaker 4: Free food does to alleviate your ADHD or any other
- 4:22Speaker 4: thing you might have like autism, etc. It just sounds
- 4:25Speaker 4: like they're pandering to you because we've now decided that
- 4:28Speaker 4: this is the newest thing to pander to. Most people
- 4:32Speaker 4: who have a condition like autism or ADHD and seriously
- 4:38Speaker 4: have it are not performative about it. They don't go
- 4:41Speaker 4: around telling everyone that they've got it. I disagree they No, no, no,
- 4:45Speaker 4: I'm talking about genuine cases. I'm not talking about the
- 4:48Speaker 4: Johnny cum Lately's who've now decided because they watched a
- 4:51Speaker 4: video on TikTok that they've got ADHD or autism. I'm
- 4:54Speaker 4: talking about genuine people. Most people aren't performative about it.
- 4:58Speaker 4: But you have these joy come latelies who've decided to
- 5:02Speaker 4: make it their entire personality because someone on TikTok told
- 5:05Speaker 4: them that they might have ADHD. They've done it without
- 5:07Speaker 4: getting a diagnosis. They've diagnosed themselves. Next thing, they're wearing
- 5:11Speaker 4: a lanyard and getting free food on planes. Well, I
- 5:15Speaker 4: reckon it does a great disservice to people who actually
- 5:17Speaker 4: have a condition, because it makes a mockery of the
- 5:21Speaker 4: real condition.
- 5:22Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 5:22Speaker 7: Well, when I first read this story, it actually reminds
- 5:24Speaker 7: me of the NDIS, because you know, when you on
- 5:26Speaker 7: the NDIS, you have got an overwhelming number of people
- 5:30Speaker 7: on there with autism.
- 5:32Speaker 5: And because it's not means tested.
- 5:35Speaker 7: Basically every man and their dog are now getting this
- 5:38Speaker 7: autism diagnosis. And this is what my initial thought was
- 5:40Speaker 7: when I read this. I thought, God, this sounds like
- 5:42Speaker 7: the NDS, when you can just self diagnose and suddenly
- 5:45Speaker 7: you're allowed to have all of these benefits. I just
- 5:48Speaker 7: think it's appalling that it's being raughted again, very much
- 5:51Speaker 7: so like the NDS. I mean, if I was to
- 5:53Speaker 7: wear a hidden Disabilities lanyard, would I get a free
- 5:55Speaker 7: pass into the chairman's lounge?
- 5:57Speaker 5: And this is where the problems are.
- 5:59Speaker 7: And the the other issue that I have is is
- 6:02Speaker 7: you've got people who have mobility issues who genuinely need
- 6:05Speaker 7: the help, who genuinely do actually need to be at
- 6:07Speaker 7: the front of the queue, for example, who need to
- 6:09Speaker 7: be able to board the plane quickly, who should be
- 6:12Speaker 7: able to access a lot more services. Well, are they
- 6:15Speaker 7: going to be pushed aside so people who have self
- 6:17Speaker 7: diagnosed with ADHD and autism can then push ahead of them.
- 6:21Speaker 7: I just I don't know how you can police this,
- 6:23Speaker 7: the fact that anyone can sign up to this.
- 6:26Speaker 5: I actually think it's a real worry.
- 6:28Speaker 2: When you go to Disneyland or here in Australia to
- 6:30Speaker 2: wett and World, you buy a fast pass, right, you
- 6:32Speaker 2: pay extra money for a fast pass. The problem is
- 6:35Speaker 2: when everybody buys a fast pass, the fast pass ain't fast,
- 6:39Speaker 2: it's right, and they're going to end up with this
- 6:40Speaker 2: very situation at airports and on airlines when everybody's got ADHD.
- 6:45Speaker 2: It's as if nobody's got ADHD, and so no one
- 6:49Speaker 2: will benefit.
- 6:49Speaker 7: One point to your point as well, like this pandering.
- 6:51Speaker 7: It is the next thing that we're pandering to.
- 6:53Speaker 5: And I think that.
- 6:54Speaker 7: People are just too scared to speak up about it,
- 6:57Speaker 7: as you know, oh no, we better not say it
- 6:59Speaker 7: just in k you know, it's just the risk of offending.
- 7:02Speaker 7: It's this tiptoeing culture that we see all the time,
- 7:04Speaker 7: and I think that your average punter would go well, actually,
- 7:07Speaker 7: this is this is utterly britgicuarly.
- 7:08Speaker 1: I'd love to know how this started.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Was this an initiative of an airline, or did some
- 7:13Speaker 2: activists go to an airline and say what are you
- 7:15Speaker 2: doing for these people? It was and the airline felt
- 7:18Speaker 2: like they better do something otherwise they'd get bad from us.
- 7:21Speaker 7: From what I understand it was, it's the hidden disability
- 7:23Speaker 7: sun fout flower scheme, that's what it's called. So was
- 7:27Speaker 7: done by a bunch of activists and in the article
- 7:29Speaker 7: they specifically talk about the airline a jet to you know,
- 7:32Speaker 7: no one, what's that? The judge Jet to holiday? Nothing
- 7:35Speaker 7: beats so jet to Holiday.
- 7:37Speaker 3: You've got adhd yes exactly.
- 7:39Speaker 5: So I think it tells you everything you need to know.
- 7:41Speaker 7: They've probably gone to Jet two and have gone, well,
- 7:43Speaker 7: you know, take it or leave it.
- 7:45Speaker 3: But it's not exactly. And this is the thing.
- 7:47Speaker 4: You know, if there are people, and we know there are,
- 7:50Speaker 4: who claim to have it and they're getting benefits, you
- 7:52Speaker 4: wouldn't be grudge someone who has a genuine issue being
- 7:55Speaker 4: helped through that issue. But there are plenty of people,
- 7:58Speaker 4: I think, who don't have issues and bang it on
- 8:00Speaker 4: and have decided that they have it themselves.
- 8:03Speaker 3: While we're talking about flights.
- 8:04Speaker 4: I just want to give a quick shout out as
- 8:05Speaker 4: well to Nat who was one of the air host
- 8:08Speaker 4: esses on Jetstar. The other day when I was flying
- 8:10Speaker 4: back from Sydney. From Melbourne back to Sydney, I had
- 8:14Speaker 4: my Crow's scarf on right and go the Mardy Crows.
- 8:16Speaker 4: We won again on the weekend, and she recognized from
- 8:19Speaker 4: the Crouch She said, I flew you last week, didn't
- 8:21Speaker 4: I She recognized the Crows scarf. So there I am
- 8:24Speaker 4: spreading the good word of the Crows around the country
- 8:28Speaker 4: and I just want to call out good service clearly,
- 8:30Speaker 4: because how good is that?
- 8:32Speaker 3: She said, I remember I flew you last week.
- 8:34Speaker 7: Well, Caleb, it's very clear that you've come back from
- 8:36Speaker 7: regional Victoria and the fame has gone gosh, no.
- 8:39Speaker 3: I think it was the Crows scarf.
- 8:40Speaker 5: What do you know where the fame's definitely gone to
- 8:42Speaker 5: your head.
- 8:43Speaker 4: Anyway, anything to promote the Adelaide Crows, I must say,
- 8:47Speaker 4: But look, if you don't get that sort of service,
- 8:49Speaker 4: maybe you get that sort of service at your mate's place.
- 8:51Speaker 3: Do you get it though?
- 8:53Speaker 4: If you rock up unannounced? Now this used to be
- 8:55Speaker 4: sort of commonplace. I don't know about you. But when
- 8:58Speaker 4: I was growing up, every night Mum had control of
- 9:02Speaker 4: the television and we would watch the six pm news
- 9:05Speaker 4: on Channel nine. Then it was Neighbors at six point thirty,
- 9:09Speaker 4: and it was Home and Away at seven o'clock, and
- 9:11Speaker 4: these programs were forever filled with the sort of Australian
- 9:14Speaker 4: ideal where everyone just knew all of their neighbors and
- 9:17Speaker 4: everyone went and just knocked on people's doors and they
- 9:20Speaker 4: let them in unannounced. Oh you know, I'll come it
- 9:22Speaker 4: over for a cup of tea. It didn't matter. You
- 9:24Speaker 4: could just walk in and out of houses like there
- 9:28Speaker 4: was nothing to it.
- 9:28Speaker 3: And Australia was once like that.
- 9:31Speaker 4: Everybody knew everybody, you could drop in on your mates
- 9:34Speaker 4: any time you wanted. But we are living more fast
- 9:37Speaker 4: paced lives now and perhaps that is no longer acceptable,
- 9:41Speaker 4: or so has found a new survey that was done
- 9:44Speaker 4: for Channel nine. They surveyed ony one hundred and nineteen
- 9:48Speaker 4: people and came back with the results that fifty one
- 9:52Speaker 4: percent of them said that they did not think you
- 9:55Speaker 4: should rock up to someone's home impromptu. Once upon a
- 9:59Speaker 4: time would have been quite normal, but now the majority
- 10:01Speaker 4: of people say, no, you can't do it. Thirty five
- 10:04Speaker 4: percent said they had no issue with it, and the
- 10:07Speaker 4: rest said not really sure what's going on? Well, personally,
- 10:12Speaker 4: I think you just show a bit of courtesy, don't you.
- 10:15Speaker 4: If you're going to rock up to someone's house, you
- 10:17Speaker 4: call a head or send a text and say, look,
- 10:18Speaker 4: I'm in the neighborhood. Do your mind if I pop around?
- 10:21Speaker 4: I mean, what if you pop around and he's getting
- 10:23Speaker 4: around without his decks on? You don't want to get
- 10:24Speaker 4: caught short. I think it's just a nice thing to do, isn't.
- 10:27Speaker 1: It, Caleb DACKX.
- 10:29Speaker 2: Notwithstanding, you are welcome to pop around at our place
- 10:32Speaker 2: anytime you want. You guys are locked up to the
- 10:36Speaker 2: front door on a Saturday unannounced.
- 10:38Speaker 1: I'd be thrilled to see both of you.
- 10:39Speaker 2: I missed those days because I remember the days that
- 10:41Speaker 2: you described when people would just rock up and often
- 10:44Speaker 2: they'd bring food, they'd bring something to share for lunch.
- 10:46Speaker 2: They just were in the area and they'd pop in.
- 10:48Speaker 2: I think it's something that we've lost by now, you know,
- 10:52Speaker 2: treating it as a.
- 10:55Speaker 1: Rude thing to do. Well.
- 10:57Speaker 4: Actually, I think we've got some footage here of James
- 10:59Speaker 4: mc first and accepting company.
- 11:03Speaker 2: Ah, there you are and almost on time, come in cold.
- 11:15Speaker 1: That's exactly how you'd be welcome.
- 11:19Speaker 3: That's what we'll be getting from you.
- 11:20Speaker 7: Jack.
- 11:21Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so.
- 11:21Speaker 7: James is the highest synth bouquet of this group. I
- 11:24Speaker 7: fancy myself the Elizabeth and Emmett, the brother and sister
- 11:27Speaker 7: duo that walked in Now. When I was growing up
- 11:30Speaker 7: growing up in an Italian household, we had visitors all
- 11:34Speaker 7: of the time, and even every time I went to
- 11:36Speaker 7: my grandma's house there were people popping in all the time.
- 11:39Speaker 5: Now, I thought that was normal until I got.
- 11:41Speaker 7: Older and realized that none of my Australian friends had
- 11:44Speaker 7: anyone pop in at all times of the day. But
- 11:47Speaker 7: it really wasn't until I got a bit older in
- 11:49Speaker 7: my early teens, when you know, I was forced to
- 11:52Speaker 7: come out of my bedroom and do a twelve for
- 11:54Speaker 7: a woman who wanted to see how tall I was
- 11:55Speaker 7: and aske seen how much I'd grown. Then I realized
- 11:58Speaker 7: that actually, this is my worst nightmare, having people just
- 12:01Speaker 7: pop in unannounced, and it's something that I've taken with me.
- 12:05Speaker 7: I always think you should give somebody the courtesy. I
- 12:07Speaker 7: would hate it if somebody rang my doorbell and I'm,
- 12:10Speaker 7: you know, in my pajamas on the couch, trying to
- 12:13Speaker 7: enjoy my Sunday or whatever, and then I have to
- 12:16Speaker 7: quickly get myself ready, make sure that everything looks neat
- 12:20Speaker 7: for these people to come in. I think as a courtesy,
- 12:23Speaker 7: you should always let people know.
- 12:26Speaker 5: That's what I think.
- 12:27Speaker 4: We have footage of Janika as well as in the tree.
- 12:53Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no come on, no more, no more,
- 12:57Speaker 1: no more?
- 12:58Speaker 6: Quick, stay right there.
- 13:07Speaker 7: I'm the world, I'm I'm the wold Kowowski from Grand Arino. Absolutely,
- 13:15Speaker 7: I just, honestly, I think it's just courtesy. We are
- 13:17Speaker 7: busy people. People live busy lives. Now, you've got your
- 13:19Speaker 7: own families, you grow up, you've got things on.
- 13:22Speaker 5: Just don't just rock up. Don't rock up. But I
- 13:25Speaker 5: mean I would accept the food.
- 13:29Speaker 3: You know.
- 13:29Speaker 2: What's changed though, I think this is the difference. Back
- 13:32Speaker 2: in the day, we didn't have mobile phones, so if
- 13:35Speaker 2: you were in the area, there was no way to
- 13:38Speaker 2: let someone know.
- 13:39Speaker 1: How is it okay if I'm very around.
- 13:41Speaker 2: Now we have phones, and so you're without excuse for
- 13:44Speaker 2: giving someone a heads up. I'm in the area, Are
- 13:47Speaker 2: you home? Can I pop over? I think that's the
- 13:50Speaker 2: difference as well.
- 13:51Speaker 7: I've actually got some vision of Caleb's experience with popins.
- 13:55Speaker 5: Let's have a look.
- 13:59Speaker 3: No no more, no more, come on, no more, no more?
- 14:05Speaker 3: Please that chicken dump? Fair enough? Fair enough?
- 14:22Speaker 4: Look, I tell you what my front door mat says,
- 14:26Speaker 4: wine required for entry, and it would be much the same.
- 14:30Speaker 3: You know, if someone rocked up.
- 14:31Speaker 4: To my front door with some food or a bottle
- 14:33Speaker 4: of wine. I probably would have been kind to say, yeah,
- 14:36Speaker 4: come on in, though it's I don't know what your
- 14:38Speaker 4: parents were like, but my mother, if we had people
- 14:42Speaker 4: coming over, she was petrified that there would be one
- 14:46Speaker 4: speck of dust anywhere, right, and if there was even
- 14:48Speaker 4: a whiff that someone was coming near the house, she'd.
- 14:51Speaker 3: Be out with the duster and the vec Yeah. Absolutely nuts,
- 14:55Speaker 3: I reckon.
- 14:55Speaker 4: It would have been her worst nightmare of people turned
- 14:57Speaker 4: up unannounced, because she go.
- 15:00Speaker 3: You forgot to do the vacuuming yesterday. You can't come
- 15:03Speaker 3: in here and see what the house looks like.
- 15:05Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's a real parent thing. Yeah, yeah,
- 15:07Speaker 7: it's a mom and dad there.
- 15:09Speaker 3: I'd have a bit of that too. I'd be like,
- 15:10Speaker 3: oh God.
- 15:11Speaker 1: The other thing that's changed, and you mentioned it?
- 15:13Speaker 2: Thanika is We are so busy now that when you
- 15:16Speaker 2: are home you sort of want just your.
- 15:18Speaker 1: Peace and quiet.
- 15:19Speaker 2: It's sort of your refuge from everything else that's going on.
- 15:22Speaker 2: And then when people encroach on that, you teach it.
- 15:25Speaker 3: But there's nothing.
- 15:26Speaker 7: There's nothing worse when you just come home from work
- 15:27Speaker 7: and you just want a bit of peace and quiet.
- 15:29Speaker 5: It's only a door bell rings. Surprise, surprise, Let.
- 15:34Speaker 3: Me hear, surprise, surprise. It's Andrew Wings. Just come around
- 15:38Speaker 3: visit you know.
- 15:39Speaker 5: Now that is my absolute work act.
- 15:42Speaker 7: As long as it brings his teddy collection along, we'd
- 15:45Speaker 7: all love that now. Speaking of worst nightmares, Gkia Starma,
- 15:48Speaker 7: he is in a world of pain right now. Over
- 15:51Speaker 7: the weekend the local council elections actually was on Thursday
- 15:53Speaker 7: last week, the local elections were held. Labor catastrophically lost
- 15:58Speaker 7: fourteen hundred seats. Would you believe Reform UK, led by
- 16:02Speaker 7: Nigel Faraj won fourteen hundred and emphatic victory over for
- 16:07Speaker 7: Reform UK. The Conservative Party also performed very badly there,
- 16:11Speaker 7: but just a shocking night for Labor. Now he is
- 16:13Speaker 7: under immense pressure to step down. Lord knows why he's
- 16:17Speaker 7: hanging on for dear life. He will go down with
- 16:19Speaker 7: that ship, he keeps telling us. This evening he delivered
- 16:22Speaker 7: what is being touted as his so called promise to
- 16:25Speaker 7: Britain on what he's going to do to change things,
- 16:28Speaker 7: to improvek labor and really restore Britain to its former glory.
- 16:33Speaker 7: Aka was a series of repeated lines and nonsense slogans
- 16:36Speaker 7: and really everything that we had heard before here was
- 16:39Speaker 7: how he opened it.
- 16:41Speaker 8: The election results last week were tough, very tough. We
- 16:48Speaker 8: lost some brilliant labor representatives. That hurts and it should hurt.
- 16:57Speaker 8: I get it, I feel it, and I take responsibility.
- 17:04Speaker 7: Well, you know what hurts Kio Starmer your mass migration program,
- 17:07Speaker 7: the fact that you can't control your borders, the net
- 17:09Speaker 7: zero scam that's basically sending that government broken backwards, and
- 17:13Speaker 7: the woke socialist agenda that we seem to see with
- 17:16Speaker 7: labor governments just like our own. Surprise, surprise, Now he's
- 17:20Speaker 7: facing a possible challenge as early as this week. There
- 17:22Speaker 7: are a number of rumblings within his MPs. They are
- 17:25Speaker 7: saying to him, go you need to go, otherwise we
- 17:28Speaker 7: will force a challenge.
- 17:29Speaker 5: But as I said, he seems to want to go
- 17:31Speaker 5: down with this ship.
- 17:33Speaker 8: I have my doubts when I took on the Labor Party.
- 17:36Speaker 8: I have my daughters. He said we couldn't change this
- 17:38Speaker 8: party and make it capable of winning an election, and
- 17:41Speaker 8: I prove them wrong. No, I'm not going to walk away.
- 17:44Speaker 7: It just goes to show that, well, nothing has really
- 17:47Speaker 7: changed with Kiir Starmer. He then went on to blame
- 17:50Speaker 7: Brexit for the state of Britain and even threw in
- 17:53Speaker 7: a couple of lines about the threat of the far right.
- 17:56Speaker 7: You know that old chestnut that we also hear down
- 17:58Speaker 7: under the threat of the far I think he's got
- 18:01Speaker 7: a lot more problems in the UK than the far right.
- 18:04Speaker 7: I don't think he can survive the week he's got
- 18:06Speaker 7: to go. He is woke, he is weak, and given
- 18:09Speaker 7: that there are already rumblings, what is it going to take.
- 18:12Speaker 2: Well, the problem is that none of the alternatives are
- 18:15Speaker 2: particularly appealing, and that's why he's still there, because they're
- 18:18Speaker 2: simply not an attractive alternative. I did laugh when he
- 18:22Speaker 2: says I'm not going to walk away, because I heard
- 18:24Speaker 2: many people comment.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Exactly, we don't want you to walk away. We want
- 18:27Speaker 1: you to.
- 18:27Speaker 2: Run as fast as you possibly can. I don't think
- 18:30Speaker 2: he will, though. He's dug himself into a hole until
- 18:32Speaker 2: continue digging, I think, until they forcibly remove him.
- 18:35Speaker 4: Well, you know, of course Trump said he's no Winston Churchill,
- 18:38Speaker 4: but he's kind of trying to act like Winston Churchill
- 18:40Speaker 4: at the moment. We will never surrender, or he will
- 18:44Speaker 4: certainly never surrender his prime ministership. I got to say,
- 18:47Speaker 4: to be honest, I don't blame him for feeling that
- 18:50Speaker 4: way because he was elected with a huge majority. Now,
- 18:54Speaker 4: of course, if they held an election today, that majority
- 18:57Speaker 4: would no longer exist, but he did manage to deliver
- 18:59Speaker 4: them a huge majority. And if the ship is going
- 19:02Speaker 4: to go down, and the ship is going to go
- 19:05Speaker 4: down quite obviously, why don't you just leave him there?
- 19:07Speaker 4: I mean, does anyone in labor really think that they
- 19:11Speaker 4: will be able to change their fortunes by changing the leader.
- 19:16Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to work.
- 19:18Speaker 4: I mean, you could get rid of him, you could
- 19:20Speaker 4: go with Angela Rainer or someone else. I mean, Rayner
- 19:23Speaker 4: is now putting the gun to his head and saying,
- 19:25Speaker 4: I'll roll you if you don't go further to the left.
- 19:28Speaker 3: I mean, how's that going to work?
- 19:31Speaker 4: Because of course, the problem that labor has now is
- 19:34Speaker 4: that the country is moving to the right. They're going
- 19:36Speaker 4: to reform, they're not happy with what the left has
- 19:40Speaker 4: handed up to them, and she's saying we've got to
- 19:42Speaker 4: go further to the left. But who's really going to
- 19:45Speaker 4: be able to claw back all of this ground that
- 19:47Speaker 4: reform has made in less than two years.
- 19:50Speaker 3: No one.
- 19:51Speaker 4: So just leave Sakia there, throw him to the wolves, essentially,
- 19:55Speaker 4: and let him be the sacrificial land.
- 19:57Speaker 2: That makes perfect sense if you fail to account for
- 19:59Speaker 2: the huge egos that exist in politics.
- 20:02Speaker 1: Remember that's true.
- 20:03Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce saying if you ask any parliamentarian who's the
- 20:06Speaker 2: best man for the the is the Prime Minister the
- 20:09Speaker 2: best person for the job? They'd all agree the Prime
- 20:11Speaker 2: Minister is the second best person for the job, the
- 20:14Speaker 2: best person being themselves. And I think there's that delusion that,
- 20:17Speaker 2: even though it's true, it doesn't matter.
- 20:18Speaker 1: What they change now they are done. But every MP.
- 20:22Speaker 2: Would privately believe if they just gave me a chance,
- 20:25Speaker 2: I'd be the one to of course DeFi gravity and
- 20:28Speaker 2: things are out.
- 20:28Speaker 7: But I think that these the local elections were really
- 20:30Speaker 7: important because it's cemented Nigel Faraj as a key player.
- 20:33Speaker 7: I mean right now he is on track to be
- 20:35Speaker 7: the next Prime minister at the general election, and I
- 20:38Speaker 7: think Reform would be absolutely stoked. But I mean, look,
- 20:40Speaker 7: it's a trend that we're seeing really in around the world,
- 20:43Speaker 7: this drift over to conservatism. And well look what happened
- 20:45Speaker 7: here at the Pharaoh by election over the weekend. People
- 20:48Speaker 7: are going no, like they want strong conviction politicians and
- 20:51Speaker 7: they want strong policies and they're not getting that really
- 20:53Speaker 7: from the main parties.
- 20:54Speaker 4: And you've got to consider as well you want to
- 20:56Speaker 4: talk about changing leaders. I mean in the UK you
- 20:58Speaker 4: had the Tories went from David Cameron to Boris Johnson,
- 21:02Speaker 4: Boris Johnson to the Reason.
- 21:04Speaker 3: May to Reason May to.
- 21:08Speaker 4: Please Trust, Liz Trust, Liz Trust to Rishi Sunak. I
- 21:12Speaker 4: mean they fired through them right, and then they got
- 21:15Speaker 4: absolutely trounced at.
- 21:17Speaker 3: The last general election.
- 21:19Speaker 4: So if you really believe that changing your leader is
- 21:22Speaker 4: going to change your fortunes, you've got rocks in your head.
- 21:26Speaker 4: It's a bit like, you know, why would you want
- 21:28Speaker 4: to be the person?
- 21:29Speaker 3: And you Angus Taylor.
- 21:31Speaker 4: God love him, put his hand up for it, but
- 21:33Speaker 4: why would you want to be the person? To succeed
- 21:35Speaker 4: Susan Lee as leader of the Liberal Party with an
- 21:38Speaker 4: insurgent one nation, because you have a huge job ahead
- 21:43Speaker 4: of you and the danger is, of course that if
- 21:46Speaker 4: you fail to fix it, and the failure then sits
- 21:50Speaker 4: on your head. So I mean, if I were a
- 21:53Speaker 4: Rainer or anyone else, I just be saying.
- 21:55Speaker 3: Sakia, you made your bed.
- 21:57Speaker 4: We're just going to let you line it for a
- 21:59Speaker 4: while and we'll talk about this in five years time,
- 22:02Speaker 4: after we get done over by reform, a few of
- 22:05Speaker 4: them will still be hanging around. Then they can go
- 22:08Speaker 4: with the scraps then and try and rebuild it.
- 22:09Speaker 3: Well.
- 22:09Speaker 2: While we're talking about elections in the UK, I want
- 22:12Speaker 2: to introduce you to the newest Scottish Green MP, doctor
- 22:17Speaker 2: Manni Venan.
- 22:18Speaker 1: Here is.
- 22:22Speaker 3: My name is doctor ku Manvan and I am a
- 22:24Speaker 3: transgender Tamil immigrant to my pronouns are they dam.
- 22:32Speaker 1: But that's not the worst of it. He's not even
- 22:33Speaker 1: a citizen.
- 22:35Speaker 2: He's in the country, can you believe it, on a
- 22:37Speaker 2: student visa and he doesn't even know if he'll be
- 22:40Speaker 2: able to remain in the country for the duration of
- 22:43Speaker 2: the term for which he's been elected. It gets worse
- 22:46Speaker 2: as a student, he's only allowed to work twenty hours
- 22:49Speaker 2: a week, which is going to make his responsibility as
- 22:52Speaker 2: a Scottish MP quite difficult. He's currently trying to raise
- 22:56Speaker 2: money to be able to afford to apply for a
- 22:59Speaker 2: different student visa so he can stay longer and fulfill
- 23:02Speaker 2: his parliamentary responsibilities. If you're elected to Parliament, you decide
- 23:07Speaker 2: the laws of the land, You decide how taxpayer funds
- 23:10Speaker 2: will be spent. How on earth does Scotland allow a
- 23:14Speaker 2: non citizen to become a member of Parliament? And who
- 23:17Speaker 2: on earth in Scotland votes for somebody knowing they're from
- 23:21Speaker 2: somewhere else on a student visa.
- 23:23Speaker 7: Well, I just wonder about the vetting process as well
- 23:25Speaker 7: with the Greens. Is it a case of roll up,
- 23:27Speaker 7: roll up, doesn't matter if you're a citizen or not,
- 23:29Speaker 7: if you're out a v.
- 23:30Speaker 1: This ug This is a feature in the Green but this.
- 23:32Speaker 5: Is a feature at the Greens.
- 23:33Speaker 7: But I mean even there was another candidate that won,
- 23:36Speaker 7: and I can't remember which councilor in the UK, but
- 23:39Speaker 7: they held a press conference after and it was entirely
- 23:42Speaker 7: in a different language.
- 23:42Speaker 5: It wasn't even in English.
- 23:44Speaker 7: I just wonder where are the Where are the Greens
- 23:47Speaker 7: getting these fanatical candidates from? But do you give this
- 23:50Speaker 7: guy credit? He's come out loud and proud. You know,
- 23:53Speaker 7: he announces himself the way that he does. Oh and
- 23:56Speaker 7: he's also on seventy seven thousand pounds per year. That's
- 24:00Speaker 7: salaries as about one hundred and forty six thousand Australian dollars.
- 24:03Speaker 5: So all in a day's work for.
- 24:05Speaker 7: A man who's not a citizen and can only work
- 24:08Speaker 7: part time on his student visa. So I just start, well,
- 24:10Speaker 7: I think I take my hat off to him. I
- 24:12Speaker 7: think he's got the best job out there.
- 24:13Speaker 4: They're very generous in Scotland. What is any country doing
- 24:19Speaker 4: allowing non citizens to run in its parliament? I mean
- 24:23Speaker 4: that he is insane. The whole point of a parliament,
- 24:27Speaker 4: whether it's in Scotland or Ireland, or Australia or Botswana,
- 24:34Speaker 4: is that it is representative of the citizens of your country.
- 24:38Speaker 4: The people who've said I am part of this country,
- 24:40Speaker 4: either by birth or by right later on, when they've
- 24:43Speaker 4: said I've come from somewhere else, I now want to
- 24:45Speaker 4: be part of this country. I mean, surely it is
- 24:48Speaker 4: the most basic thing you ask of someone is that
- 24:52Speaker 4: they have made the pledge that they belong to and
- 24:56Speaker 4: give adherents to your country before you give them the
- 25:00Speaker 4: opportunity to a vote and be into the parliament. And
- 25:04Speaker 4: for some reason the government in Scotland has said well
- 25:07Speaker 4: we're going to do away with that and all comers
- 25:10Speaker 4: are now welcome. I mean, well, what's to stop me
- 25:13Speaker 4: going over there on a tourist visa and running and saying, oh,
- 25:17Speaker 4: well I'm over here for three months.
- 25:18Speaker 3: I'm going to give it a go.
- 25:19Speaker 7: We'll clelling in Caleb. He has given enough. What are
- 25:22Speaker 7: you talking about? We know his pronouns are they them?
- 25:24Speaker 7: And we know that he trans so we've given him enough.
- 25:26Speaker 7: He's given Scotland enough information.
- 25:29Speaker 5: Okay.
- 25:29Speaker 2: You know when I watched him introducing himself there a
- 25:31Speaker 2: transgendered immigrant who's on a student visa, I was reminded
- 25:36Speaker 2: of remember the movie Braveheart.
- 25:38Speaker 1: Oh yes, and William Wallace. Yeah, they will not.
- 25:40Speaker 2: I mean, do you think he would be excited about
- 25:43Speaker 2: having fought for that.
- 25:43Speaker 5: I don't think he's ever watched it.
- 25:46Speaker 2: William Wallace died a long time ago, exactly.
- 25:49Speaker 5: He doesn't strike me as a type to want to sit.
- 25:53Speaker 1: With you. Second, where you're going to.
- 25:58Speaker 7: James just looked at me blankly, not compute that one.
- 26:02Speaker 5: We know quite go there. Well I don't think he has.
- 26:06Speaker 5: I'm just going to be completely.
- 26:07Speaker 3: Oh fantastic, Well there you go.
- 26:10Speaker 4: If that didn't make you feel bad about the state
- 26:12Speaker 4: of the world, how's about this one?
- 26:14Speaker 3: Go over to the.
- 26:15Speaker 4: US now where and this is just becoming commonplace, and
- 26:19Speaker 4: sadly commonplace.
- 26:20Speaker 3: I think we would have woken.
- 26:22Speaker 4: Up by now and said, well, no, when it comes
- 26:25Speaker 4: to biological men competing in women's sports, it's just.
- 26:28Speaker 3: Not on it's not fair.
- 26:29Speaker 4: I mean, most of the organization's worldwide sporting organizations are
- 26:34Speaker 4: coming to this realization. The Olympics have now said that
- 26:38Speaker 4: you won't be able to compete in women's sport if
- 26:41Speaker 4: you're a biological male. But over the weekend, ab Hanandez,
- 26:45Speaker 4: who is a student athlete in the United States, was
- 26:49Speaker 4: competing at a track meet in California. Ab Hernandez was
- 26:54Speaker 4: competing in the girls category, but happens to be a male.
- 26:58Speaker 3: Now.
- 26:59Speaker 4: He had been played for a few months in the
- 27:01Speaker 4: volleyball comp in California, and the girls were jumping up
- 27:05Speaker 4: and down about that. Many had quit in protest and
- 27:09Speaker 4: would refuse to compete against him. So now he's gone
- 27:12Speaker 4: off to this track competition over the weekend, competed in
- 27:17Speaker 4: the long jump, which he won, the high jump in
- 27:20Speaker 4: which he came equal first, and the triple jump, which
- 27:23Speaker 4: he also won by three feet against the girl who
- 27:29Speaker 4: came second.
- 27:30Speaker 3: I mean, how many times there was a protest by
- 27:33Speaker 3: the way.
- 27:33Speaker 4: At the event, and rightly so, how many times does
- 27:37Speaker 4: this need to happen before we go this? Every organization
- 27:41Speaker 4: just bans it and says, you don't have biological males,
- 27:45Speaker 4: you don't have men competing in women's sport. I mean
- 27:49Speaker 4: the poor girls who rock up to compete in their
- 27:53Speaker 4: jump competitions and they've got a biological mail there competing
- 27:58Speaker 4: against them, and they're faced with well, I either forfeit
- 28:01Speaker 4: and you know, I lose the opportunity to come second
- 28:04Speaker 4: or third or anywhere at all in protest, or I
- 28:08Speaker 4: have to.
- 28:08Speaker 3: Compete if I want to get anywhere on the ladder.
- 28:10Speaker 3: It's just sick, It's unfair.
- 28:12Speaker 7: Well, welcome to Gavin Newsom's California. Do you think that
- 28:14Speaker 7: Gavin Newsom is going to do anything about it? He
- 28:17Speaker 7: is the most wokest man right now in America. This
- 28:22Speaker 7: really disturbs me as a female. It says that men's
- 28:24Speaker 7: feelings are more important than women's. It says that men's protections,
- 28:29Speaker 7: men have protection while women do not have any legal
- 28:33Speaker 7: rights at all. And look, Caleb's right, and we've seen
- 28:36Speaker 7: it all around the world. You remember Aman Khalif, the
- 28:38Speaker 7: boxer who competed in the Olympic Games in Paris, won
- 28:40Speaker 7: gold there despite the fact that he had male chromosomes.
- 28:44Speaker 5: I mean, you didn't need a test to tell you that.
- 28:45Speaker 5: It was very obvious.
- 28:47Speaker 7: And you might remember as well that the Italian boxer
- 28:49Speaker 7: who went up against him, she was left in tears
- 28:51Speaker 7: after that match. I read a few articles online and
- 28:54Speaker 7: they're saying that this ab Hernandez dominated the competition. Well, no,
- 28:59Speaker 7: ab Hernandez did not dominate the competition. Ab Hernandez actually
- 29:03Speaker 7: stole a spot from a biological female who has probably
- 29:07Speaker 7: been working for a very very long time training to
- 29:09Speaker 7: be the fittest that they can to try and enter
- 29:11Speaker 7: this competition and win, and he has stolen the spot.
- 29:15Speaker 7: We see it here in Australia with the Flying Bats.
- 29:17Speaker 7: You know, the soccer team here in Sydney that won
- 29:19Speaker 7: all of their matches because they have several biological men
- 29:22Speaker 7: on that team.
- 29:24Speaker 5: You know where does this end?
- 29:25Speaker 7: Once again, the erasure of women's rights continues. And I
- 29:29Speaker 7: really really fear for women, for their spaces. I fear
- 29:34Speaker 7: for sisters, for nieces, for nieces, for children, nephews as.
- 29:40Speaker 5: Well while we're at it.
- 29:41Speaker 7: Definitely definitely no nephews. But yeah, it's really sad.
- 29:45Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting about this is, of course, Donald Trump
- 29:47Speaker 2: announced with great fanfare that the US federal government would
- 29:50Speaker 2: only recognize two genders, male and female, and that no
- 29:55Speaker 2: federal funds would be given to schools or universities who
- 29:58Speaker 2: allowed males to pete in female sports. Now, as you said,
- 30:03Speaker 2: the key to this story, Danika is California, because California
- 30:07Speaker 2: is a different place. Thanks to Gavin Newsom, who interestingly
- 30:11Speaker 2: did a interview a while back. I'm not sure if
- 30:13Speaker 2: you saw it, and he actually expressed some doubts about
- 30:16Speaker 2: the wisdom of allowing transgendered sportspeople to compete in girls' sports. However,
- 30:24Speaker 2: having expressed some doubts about it, he's not changed policy,
- 30:27Speaker 2: and California have told Donald Trump, you can do whatever
- 30:30Speaker 2: you want. A letter to us doesn't change state law
- 30:33Speaker 2: will continue to allow males to compete in girls' sports,
- 30:36Speaker 2: so until they vote differently in California, this will continue.
- 30:40Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a real shame. It's an absolute shame. Well,
- 30:43Speaker 7: from one sport to another. The great Or Western Sydney
- 30:47Speaker 7: Giants here in Australia, of course, the GGWS team was
- 30:52Speaker 7: given a license in twenty ten in the AFL, one
- 30:55Speaker 7: of the new teams in the competition.
- 30:58Speaker 5: Well, because they've got great Or West.
- 31:00Speaker 7: In Sydney in their title, it's come under a little
- 31:02Speaker 7: bit of scrutiny because do they really just represent Greater
- 31:05Speaker 7: Western Sydney And now they're chairman Tim Reid is floating
- 31:09Speaker 7: the idea of perhaps changing the name after all of
- 31:13Speaker 7: this time. He has said, quote, whether we're known as
- 31:16Speaker 7: the Giants, whether we're known as GWS, whatever the word is,
- 31:20Speaker 7: I think the most important thing is what it represents,
- 31:23Speaker 7: and that's the brand of footy we play.
- 31:25Speaker 5: No One who you ask.
- 31:26Speaker 7: Who lives in Sydney says I live in Greater Western Sydney.
- 31:30Speaker 7: It's not a term that people naturally identify with, so
- 31:34Speaker 7: it brings no benefit to the club in terms of
- 31:37Speaker 7: a brand. Look, I think that this is a waste
- 31:41Speaker 7: of time. To be honest, they want to be potentially
- 31:44Speaker 7: rebranded to the new South Wales Giants.
- 31:46Speaker 1: Niy McGuire and Eddie McGuire has.
- 31:50Speaker 7: Also come out saying it should also encapsulate Canberra as well,
- 31:53Speaker 7: because he reckons that Canberra is the money making area,
- 31:56Speaker 7: so he goes just do the whole thing. So will
- 31:58Speaker 7: it be the new South Wales AC Giants. When I
- 32:01Speaker 7: first heard that name, I thought it sounds like a
- 32:02Speaker 7: female netball team. To be quite honest, I think if
- 32:05Speaker 7: it ain't broke, don't fix it. I think just keep
- 32:08Speaker 7: with a status quo. Was it a dumb name to
- 32:10Speaker 7: start with? Probably? Should they have thought about it? Yes,
- 32:13Speaker 7: but don't confuse punters.
- 32:15Speaker 2: Come on the problems they're getting between nine thousand to
- 32:18Speaker 2: sixteen thousand. Nine thousand would be a bad crowd, sixteen
- 32:21Speaker 2: thousand would be a bumper crowd.
- 32:24Speaker 1: In Sydney, despite the.
- 32:25Speaker 2: Fact they made a Grand Final only a couple of
- 32:27Speaker 2: years ago, got absolutely smashed, but better than my team's
- 32:30Speaker 2: done in a long time. Caleb, I must say that
- 32:33Speaker 2: the problem they have is whether you call it Greater
- 32:35Speaker 2: Western Sydney or Western Sydney.
- 32:38Speaker 1: They're trying to.
- 32:38Speaker 2: Promote AFL in Penrith, in Liverpool, in Blacktown, in Paramatta,
- 32:45Speaker 2: and that is rugby league heartland.
- 32:48Speaker 1: And it's going to.
- 32:49Speaker 2: Take decades before they really make inroads because you're going
- 32:52Speaker 2: to have to work on not the current generation, not
- 32:55Speaker 2: people my age or even my kids. You're gonna have
- 32:57Speaker 2: to work on really young primary school children.
- 33:00Speaker 1: It's going to take years. You can call it what
- 33:02Speaker 1: you want.
- 33:03Speaker 2: They're going to have to spend a lot more money
- 33:05Speaker 2: and be a lot more patient.
- 33:07Speaker 4: Yeah, my answer would be you take the license away
- 33:11Speaker 4: from Sydney and you take it to Darwin, because they're
- 33:13Speaker 4: talking now about where's the next license is going to go.
- 33:16Speaker 4: They're gonna have a twentieth team in Darwin.
- 33:18Speaker 3: Now.
- 33:18Speaker 4: I think the problem is at the moment that they
- 33:20Speaker 4: have too many teams as it is, So instead of
- 33:23Speaker 4: adding another license, just say okay, well it's not really
- 33:25Speaker 4: doing that well in Wistern, Sydney, let's send it up
- 33:28Speaker 4: to Darwin, fill it up with young Indigenous boys and
- 33:30Speaker 4: they'll have a rip A team.
- 33:32Speaker 2: The rivalry between the NRL and the AFL is such
- 33:36Speaker 2: there is no way in hell the AFL would.
- 33:39Speaker 4: Ever retreat I know, and they do get a good
- 33:41Speaker 4: crowd at the SCG for Swans matches. And I went
- 33:44Speaker 4: to the Sydney Derby Swans and GWS a few weeks
- 33:48Speaker 4: ago at the SCG. You know, it was near enough
- 33:50Speaker 4: to a full house, great crowd, great match. The Swan's
- 33:54Speaker 4: went straight over the top of them. But the best
- 33:55Speaker 4: thing about GWS is the team song.
- 33:58Speaker 3: You know familiar with the Sander song.
- 34:01Speaker 4: It's a big, big sound from the list of the town.
- 34:04Speaker 3: It's the sound of the mighty Take a team seriously exactly, it's.
- 34:10Speaker 7: Horrible, don't mind it to be honest, It's got a
- 34:11Speaker 7: good beat to it.
- 34:12Speaker 1: That's the West Coast Eagle song.
- 34:14Speaker 7: Where the Eagles the West Coast eger but you don't
- 34:17Speaker 7: they updated.
- 34:19Speaker 1: Act gets to sing she will, but you know.
- 34:22Speaker 7: They updated to see this is this whyn't like. Don't
- 34:25Speaker 7: don't change things. If it's working, don't change it. Because
- 34:27Speaker 7: I actually updated the West Coast Eagles song, I think,
- 34:29Speaker 7: going back five six years ago, and they made it
- 34:31Speaker 7: more pacey and put like.
- 34:32Speaker 5: A cool tune.
- 34:33Speaker 1: And no, they haven't want to go with you.
- 34:35Speaker 7: And they haven't won a game since They're losing on
- 34:36Speaker 7: average by eighty five points of a.
- 34:38Speaker 5: Match but don't change it. It's like the classic song.
- 34:41Speaker 3: Real Quick of South thus game with the Mighty.
- 34:46Speaker 2: I'll tell you what my team plays your team this weekend,
- 34:49Speaker 2: and you will hear all about it next one day
- 34:51Speaker 2: before we go to a break.
- 34:52Speaker 1: I've got to get your.
- 34:53Speaker 2: Thoughts on this. North Korea have changed their constitution. I
- 34:56Speaker 2: suppose they've been watching what's happened in Iran where the
- 35:00Speaker 2: Toller and then every other leader was taken out. So
- 35:03Speaker 2: they've changed their constitution so that the constitution now requires
- 35:08Speaker 2: an automatic nuclear strike in the event Kim Jong un
- 35:12Speaker 2: is assassinated. This is from their National Intelligence Service. If
- 35:17Speaker 2: the command and control system over the state's nuclear forces
- 35:21Speaker 2: is placed in danger, that would be Kim Jong Un
- 35:24Speaker 2: by hostile forces attacks, a nuclear strike shall be launched
- 35:27Speaker 2: automatically and immediately. I guess that's the perfect reason why
- 35:33Speaker 2: Iran can never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon,
- 35:36Speaker 2: because there are regimes like this North Korea. If you
- 35:39Speaker 2: try to assassinate Kim Jong un, they will retaliate with
- 35:42Speaker 2: a nuclear bomb.
- 35:43Speaker 3: Why would you bother trying to kill him anyway? I mean, look,
- 35:46Speaker 3: you know, because he's not a.
- 35:49Speaker 4: Major threat to the world or the Western world for that.
- 35:53Speaker 4: You feel sorry for the poor people of North Korea,
- 35:55Speaker 4: but we can't go around liberating every country in the world.
- 35:59Speaker 4: Trumpscon meeting before. I don't really see a circumstance in
- 36:02Speaker 4: which someone is actually going to make a genuine attempt
- 36:06Speaker 4: on Kim Jong UN's life. But you know, it gives
- 36:08Speaker 4: him a bit of chest beating, so I'm sure he's had.
- 36:10Speaker 1: You remember when Trump called him rocketman?
- 36:12Speaker 3: Rocketman?
- 36:12Speaker 5: Oh, that's right, We're going to have had that little subfule.
- 36:15Speaker 7: And let's just had that cute little summit where Donald
- 36:17Speaker 7: Trump stepped over and to end in north career iconic
- 36:21Speaker 7: vision that was even.
- 36:22Speaker 4: When he gets killed and they set the rocket off,
- 36:24Speaker 4: they'll have to do it to the tune.
- 36:25Speaker 1: Of Rocketman, they will.
- 36:26Speaker 2: All right, We're going to go to a break when
- 36:27Speaker 2: we come back to look at what it's making headlines tomorrow,
- 36:30Speaker 2: including Pauline Hansen trying to woo the coalition.
- 36:34Speaker 1: That's next. Welcome back to the program.
- 36:43Speaker 2: Let's take a look at what's making headlines tomorrow, so
- 36:46Speaker 2: you get them all here first. And of course, the budget,
- 36:50Speaker 2: which will be handed down tomorrow night, will feature in
- 36:53Speaker 2: most of tomorrow's front pages. I like the Herald's son
- 36:57Speaker 2: headline talking about the fact we're headed towards it's one
- 37:00Speaker 2: point five trillion dollars in debt. They've got a picture
- 37:03Speaker 2: of the Treasurer there with the headline debtman walking like that.
- 37:07Speaker 1: Good job by the sub editors.
- 37:09Speaker 2: The Daily Telegraph has gone with One Nation victory flips
- 37:12Speaker 2: the script on Jim's budget fudget. The article says, Jim
- 37:17Speaker 2: Budget Jim Charmers budget plans have been left in disarray
- 37:20Speaker 2: following One nations stunning victory on the weekend. The Treasurer
- 37:24Speaker 2: now trying to sell tone deaf tax heights hikes to
- 37:27Speaker 2: a nation worried about migration and climate policies driving up
- 37:31Speaker 2: the cost of living.
- 37:32Speaker 1: So the gist of the.
- 37:34Speaker 2: Article is that the pharaoh by election really was all
- 37:38Speaker 2: about high immigration and the incredible cost that net zero
- 37:43Speaker 2: has imposed upon consumers, and no one really cares about
- 37:47Speaker 2: anything else. Of course, Jim Charmers is probably not going
- 37:51Speaker 2: to address those two issues, and so his budget may
- 37:55Speaker 2: well go down like a lead balloon calible.
- 37:58Speaker 4: Well, they're going to try and say, well, you know,
- 38:00Speaker 4: we're doing our bit for housing by fiddling with the
- 38:02Speaker 4: CGT and the negative gearing. It is not going to
- 38:06Speaker 4: make a lick of difference. In fact, if it'll do anything,
- 38:08Speaker 4: it'll make it worse. The modeling that's been done on
- 38:12Speaker 4: the capital gains tax. This was in the oars three
- 38:15Speaker 4: weeks ago. I think was that if you change it,
- 38:19Speaker 4: what you'll actually do is make it a better investment
- 38:22Speaker 4: to hold on to a property for longer, so you
- 38:25Speaker 4: don't get turnover in the market, which takes away the
- 38:28Speaker 4: opportunity for someone else to buy it, so they'll just
- 38:30Speaker 4: pick and stick. If you're going to invest in property
- 38:32Speaker 4: to get your money, you'll just pick and stick, so
- 38:34Speaker 4: that means someone else can't buy it your first home.
- 38:37Speaker 3: Bar and Paul Keating, when.
- 38:40Speaker 4: He was Treasurer, tried to get real He did get
- 38:42Speaker 4: rid of negative gearing. It lasted two years and they
- 38:45Speaker 4: brought it back because it resulted in really low vacancy
- 38:50Speaker 4: rates for rentals because people weren't buying them and they
- 38:53Speaker 4: were taking what were rental properties off the market.
- 38:56Speaker 3: The vacancy rates that.
- 38:57Speaker 4: We have now are lower than what they were then.
- 39:01Speaker 4: So what do you think is going to happen an
- 39:03Speaker 4: even tighter rental market? Oh, oh, that'll be good for
- 39:07Speaker 4: housing affordability, won't it.
- 39:08Speaker 5: Yeah, And the problem is we still have a supply issue.
- 39:11Speaker 7: You cannot tax your way out of the supply crisis
- 39:15Speaker 7: that we're in. I mean, labor still has not achieved
- 39:17Speaker 7: not one of its housing targets. And this will not
- 39:20Speaker 7: make any difference to actually trying to physically get people
- 39:23Speaker 7: into homes when we already have an existing problem.
- 39:25Speaker 2: But the other funny thing about this article on the
- 39:27Speaker 2: front page of the Telegraph, So Jim Charmer's about to
- 39:30Speaker 2: deliver the federal budget, and on the front page they
- 39:33Speaker 2: don't quote Charmers so much as they quote a guy
- 39:35Speaker 2: who's been in politics for about three minutes, David Farley,
- 39:39Speaker 2: who of course won in Farah, and he's quoted as saying,
- 39:42Speaker 2: if Jim Charmers wanted to resonate with the Australian people,
- 39:45Speaker 2: the first thing he would announce would be that the
- 39:47Speaker 2: Climate Change Department has gone together with all the policies
- 39:51Speaker 2: associated with it.
- 39:52Speaker 1: And don't you reckon.
- 39:53Speaker 2: Everyone reading the paper tomorrow will read that and think
- 39:56Speaker 2: absolutely exactly one hundred percent.
- 39:59Speaker 4: On the front of the Ods tomorrow, of course, more
- 40:00Speaker 4: about the budget, it's his Albanize, He's fifth budget laid bare.
- 40:04Speaker 3: Our last minute scoop.
- 40:05Speaker 4: Tax creep will eat your WATO and I'm not sure
- 40:09Speaker 4: that I want to creep getting his mouth anywhere near
- 40:12Speaker 4: my what to be perfectly honest, but it says Jim
- 40:14Speaker 4: Charmers will give back about half of what an average
- 40:16Speaker 4: worker loses in a year's worth of bracket creep when
- 40:19Speaker 4: he delivers sweetness in his fifth budget on Tuesday night,
- 40:22Speaker 4: where investors could face a further shock of a potential
- 40:25Speaker 4: thirty percent minimum capital gains tax, The Australian can reveal
- 40:30Speaker 4: that the treasure is new tax hand out to be
- 40:32Speaker 4: called the Working Australian Tax Offset or WATO and worth
- 40:37Speaker 4: about two hundred and fifty dollars per person for the
- 40:39Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven financial year, would only call back part
- 40:43Speaker 4: of the four hundred and forty dollars an extra tax
- 40:45Speaker 4: paid by an.
- 40:46Speaker 3: Average worker due to bracket creep.
- 40:48Speaker 4: Analysis by The Australian using the Reserve Bank's inflation forecast
- 40:53Speaker 4: shows I mean, once again, they can call that a sweetener,
- 40:58Speaker 4: but it's four fifths of bugger all. So we're going
- 41:00Speaker 4: to text you like Jesus over here, and then we're
- 41:04Speaker 4: going to give you two hundred and fifty dollars over here,
- 41:07Speaker 4: and we're going to say, ah, well, you know, all
- 41:09Speaker 4: is fine. Now a bracket creep again.
- 41:11Speaker 3: You want to talk about tax reform.
- 41:13Speaker 4: This is a real thing that a government that is
- 41:15Speaker 4: serious about tax reform should be looking at. But they're
- 41:18Speaker 4: not going to do that because it would cost the money,
- 41:21Speaker 4: and they instead they go, oh, we'll hand some back
- 41:24Speaker 4: and all is well.
- 41:25Speaker 3: It's just smoking mirrors.
- 41:27Speaker 7: Yeah, it is smoking mirrors and nothing will ever change.
- 41:30Speaker 7: This is another Jim Chalmers ploy because of his spending spreees,
- 41:36Speaker 7: spending all of our money.
- 41:37Speaker 1: What do you think about?
- 41:38Speaker 2: The Australian says that as for criticism that this budget
- 41:41Speaker 2: will break election promises, Jim Chalmers assures Australians that all
- 41:46Speaker 2: decisions will be.
- 41:47Speaker 1: Made for the right reason. People will buy that.
- 41:51Speaker 7: Well, it's a bit like when now Anthony Arbernezi said
- 41:53Speaker 7: my word is my bond.
- 41:54Speaker 5: That's exactly what it sounds like.
- 41:56Speaker 4: Unbelievable to believe he soiled my little tag line at
- 42:00Speaker 4: the end of the bond report.
- 42:01Speaker 7: I know, I feel like every time you say that
- 42:03Speaker 7: now it's turning for the elbow.
- 42:05Speaker 1: I get visions of elbow when I look at you
- 42:07Speaker 1: doing that case.
- 42:08Speaker 4: If I'd be and Friday b there to hear and
- 42:10Speaker 4: these say it and I actually need it, unlike the
- 42:12Speaker 4: Prime Minister. Another interesting story on the front of the
- 42:14Speaker 4: Yours Hansen WOS coalition and in Bolden, Pauline Hanson has
- 42:18Speaker 4: extended her hand to Angus Taylor, A National's leader Matt
- 42:21Speaker 4: Canavan to create a conservative plan to get rid of
- 42:24Speaker 4: vant and the alban easy as she demanded the coalition
- 42:27Speaker 4: guarantee support for a one Nation Lib government if her
- 42:30Speaker 4: party wins more seats than it does at the next election.
- 42:34Speaker 4: On a high after voters at Saturday's Pharabah election for
- 42:37Speaker 4: the first time elected a One Nation MP to the
- 42:39Speaker 4: House of Reps, taking its lower house representation to two,
- 42:43Speaker 4: the One Nation leader declared the coalition had to realize
- 42:46Speaker 4: I'm not the enemy. The coalition holds forty one seats
- 42:51Speaker 4: in the House of Representatives and she's quite right. They
- 42:54Speaker 4: do have to realize she's not the enemy, because if
- 42:57Speaker 4: the Libs and the Gnats really think they're going to
- 42:59Speaker 4: win any support back by jumping up and down and
- 43:02Speaker 4: saying how bad paul enhancing that jig is up, maybe
- 43:06Speaker 4: we're twenty years ago when they were a fledgling force.
- 43:10Speaker 3: It doesn't work too, Kayla.
- 43:11Speaker 1: Didn't you listen to Angus Taylor the other night.
- 43:13Speaker 2: If the vote sprays Labour stays, do you think everyone's going.
- 43:17Speaker 1: To jump on board with that game.
- 43:19Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson has said to Angus Taylor, if you win
- 43:21Speaker 2: more seats, we will support you to form government. Would
- 43:25Speaker 2: you do the same for us? Do you think Angus
- 43:27Speaker 2: Taylor is going to reply to this overture?
- 43:29Speaker 7: It is not, of course, he's not going to reply
- 43:31Speaker 7: to this. The thing is, every time the Coalition criticized
- 43:35Speaker 7: one nation, one nation.
- 43:36Speaker 5: Gets more popular.
- 43:38Speaker 7: And this is what I don't think that either party
- 43:40Speaker 7: have understood so far, because if farre has taught us anything,
- 43:44Speaker 7: the polls are right, you know, Pauline is popular.
- 43:47Speaker 2: And it's amazing how the tables have flipped. Like Pauline
- 43:50Speaker 2: Hansen saying to the coalition, hey, would you support us
- 43:53Speaker 2: to form government? And that would have been a joke
- 43:56Speaker 2: five ten years ago, but on the front page of
- 43:59Speaker 2: tomorrow's paper, she's deadly serious and I think people will
- 44:02Speaker 2: take it seriously.
- 44:02Speaker 5: Yeah, I completely agree.
- 44:03Speaker 7: Let's have a look now at the Canberra Times APS grows,
- 44:07Speaker 7: job cuts not ruled out. Tuesday's federal budget will show
- 44:10Speaker 7: a slight increase in the size of the Australian public
- 44:14Speaker 7: service despite widespread redundancies. Finance and Public Services Minister Katie
- 44:19Speaker 7: Gallagher said while the budget papers would show reductions in
- 44:22Speaker 7: average staffing levels in some agencies, these would be relatively
- 44:26Speaker 7: minor adjustments, adjustments that would be offset by significant increases
- 44:31Speaker 7: in defense. Well, I mean that the public service has
- 44:34Speaker 7: already ballooned out since Anthony Albanezi came to power, and
- 44:40Speaker 7: Labor has refused to do anything about this from the
- 44:44Speaker 7: very beginning, and now we find out that there's even
- 44:46Speaker 7: been a slight increase, even though that they are trying
- 44:48Speaker 7: to make a number of redundancies to the public service,
- 44:51Speaker 7: so obviously they haven't gotten a hold on this issue. Again,
- 44:54Speaker 7: it's just adding on top of everything that's going on
- 44:57Speaker 7: right now between the record spending the inflation problems, the
- 45:00Speaker 7: public service is inflated and bloated.
- 45:03Speaker 5: This is Jim's economy real quickly.
- 45:05Speaker 2: To your favorite paper, Caleb the Adelaide Advertiser, Anika Skywalker
- 45:09Speaker 2: is the headline. Minister Wells charged South Australian trip for
- 45:13Speaker 2: birthday party meeting under fire Albanzi government minister Nica Wells
- 45:17Speaker 2: hosted a meeting with a South Australian minister at his
- 45:20Speaker 2: wife's fortieth birthday party and claimed the business class trip
- 45:24Speaker 2: on taxpayers. She says that they conducted parliamentary business during
- 45:29Speaker 2: the party.
- 45:30Speaker 1: Is she going to get away with this or.
- 45:31Speaker 2: Is Anthony Albanezi going to enforce the standards he promised
- 45:35Speaker 2: prior to being elected.
- 45:36Speaker 4: Sounds a bit like that old trick on your tax return,
- 45:38Speaker 4: doesn't it.
- 45:39Speaker 2: You know?
- 45:39Speaker 3: Oh, I definitely had businitors on that trip.
- 45:42Speaker 4: Not that I've ever done it, but I've heard of
- 45:43Speaker 4: people doing it seriously. And Chris Picton, the minister in essay,
- 45:49Speaker 4: has refused that start to confirm it as well.
- 45:52Speaker 3: So she's kind of up the creek without a paddle
- 45:54Speaker 3: of this funny.
- 45:55Speaker 1: She certainly is all right, we're going to go to
- 45:56Speaker 1: a break when we come back.
- 45:57Speaker 2: Abby Chatfield's musician boyfriend refuse to entry to the United States, like,
- 46:02Speaker 2: I can't imagine why that's coming up after this.
- 46:09Speaker 1: Welcome back to the program now.
- 46:10Speaker 2: As you would be aware, both Danika and Caleb fanatical
- 46:13Speaker 2: music lovers. Are you a fan of Kelly Holiday's music.
- 46:17Speaker 3: No, I can't say I am.
- 46:18Speaker 4: I mean the bloke can't really sing, which is a
- 46:21Speaker 4: bit of a problem when you call yourself a thing.
- 46:23Speaker 4: It's part of a mob called peaking Duck. Do enjoy
- 46:26Speaker 4: eating peaking Duck? I just don't enjoy listening to them.
- 46:29Speaker 4: But the front man, Kelly Holiday is with Abby Chatfield,
- 46:33Speaker 4: who would you know, is a raging lifty. She interviewed
- 46:36Speaker 4: the Prime Minister before the election on her podcast.
- 46:39Speaker 3: There's all sorts of weird and wacky stuff on there.
- 46:41Speaker 3: She's also said stuff like this before Americans, when are
- 46:47Speaker 3: you going to do it? Why isn't already done.
- 46:51Speaker 1: You?
- 46:52Speaker 3: Every day there's another happening, right, awful for your kind,
- 46:57Speaker 3: true awful?
- 46:59Speaker 1: Right?
- 47:01Speaker 3: Why don't we redirect this energy to something else? Now?
- 47:07Speaker 4: What she is suggesting there is somebody should kill Donald Trump.
- 47:10Speaker 3: So is it any surprise.
- 47:12Speaker 4: That her partner, mister Holliday, has now been denied entry
- 47:16Speaker 4: to the US. Yes, he was performing in Canada and
- 47:20Speaker 4: he was trying to make his way into the UIT.
- 47:22Speaker 4: The hell is that trying to make it way into
- 47:24Speaker 4: the US? Oh my god, that is creepy. Where the
- 47:28Speaker 4: hell do we get that footage. You should deny hims
- 47:31Speaker 4: on the basis of that alone. But anyway, can you
- 47:33Speaker 4: imagine why they would have said, no, we don't want
- 47:35Speaker 4: this bloke performing in our country. He's got his girlfriend
- 47:38Speaker 4: running around saying stuff like that, and he himself said
- 47:41Speaker 4: stuff on TikTok about people who went to march for
- 47:43Speaker 4: Australia rallies, you know, suggesting that they were scum of
- 47:46Speaker 4: the earth and they should be locked up or worse.
- 47:49Speaker 4: I mean, what's worse than being locked up? I'll let
- 47:51Speaker 4: you read between the lines. But to the poor fella,
- 47:54Speaker 4: the poor fellow, they won't let him into Trump's America.
- 47:57Speaker 1: He's not surprised, is he? Surely not?
- 48:00Speaker 2: With everything that's happened in the US and the fact
- 48:02Speaker 2: they're now going through all of your social media, etc.
- 48:06Speaker 2: Et cetera for his girlfriend to have made very public
- 48:09Speaker 2: comments like that.
- 48:11Speaker 5: Exactly what does he suspect?
- 48:12Speaker 1: You should not be surprised?
- 48:13Speaker 5: Stutted, he's absolutely devastated by it.
- 48:15Speaker 7: Well, I mean, you know, maybe think twice before you
- 48:17Speaker 7: post things online. Now, we've been talking a lot about
- 48:20Speaker 7: robots lately, and have a look at this clip. This
- 48:22Speaker 7: is from San Francisco of two robots actually.
- 48:25Speaker 5: Fighting each other. Good grief.
- 48:28Speaker 7: It does actually look like something out of a sci
- 48:30Speaker 7: fi movie. I've got to say it's from a virtual
- 48:33Speaker 7: reality innovator six live. These are two AI robots battling
- 48:38Speaker 7: each other as the crowds are tearing them on. Well
- 48:41Speaker 7: there you go, so wow, we are just they're like humans.
- 48:45Speaker 1: Do you think that's going to catch on? I don't know.
- 48:47Speaker 1: They're not really fighting each other.
- 48:49Speaker 2: They just have pre programmed moves that they simultaneously make
- 48:53Speaker 2: in the hope that perhaps.
- 48:55Speaker 5: What would you have if one was coming up to
- 48:56Speaker 5: you like that?
- 48:58Speaker 2: I'd kill myself laughing at One of those where I
- 49:01Speaker 2: love to say that.
- 49:02Speaker 4: Was that during COVID when we couldn't have any real sport.
- 49:05Speaker 3: Could you get a bed on it?
- 49:06Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know.
- 49:06Speaker 2: Hey, really quickly before we go, check out this for
- 49:09Speaker 2: a headline.
- 49:09Speaker 1: This is in the UK Papers.
- 49:11Speaker 2: Dog Walker accidentally picks up World War II bomb on
- 49:16Speaker 2: UK beach after mistaking it for a nice looking bottle.
- 49:20Speaker 2: Tony Lovell he was walking the beach looking for trinkets
- 49:24Speaker 2: when he saw this bottle.
- 49:25Speaker 1: He mistook it for a gin bottle.
- 49:27Speaker 2: As he got closer, he saw it was filled with
- 49:29Speaker 2: a bright orange liquid. When he picked it up, it
- 49:32Speaker 2: started smoking. It burst into flame. Turns out it had
- 49:35Speaker 2: phosphorus inside it. A bomb disposal unit did a controlled explosion.
- 49:41Speaker 1: He was okay. The bottle is left behind.
- 49:43Speaker 4: Under the Constitution of the United Kingdom, if see your
- 49:46Speaker 4: star Ma gets killed, they have to set it off.
- 49:48Speaker 1: Indeed, that's it from us.
- 49:49Speaker 2: Stick around. Coming up in just a moment is the
- 49:51Speaker 2: read a penety show. We'll see it tomorrow.
- 49:52Speaker 1: Good Night,