Latest / Aspergers & Autism Podcast [The Aspie World] AuDHD / AUTISM EDUCATION - 3 Effective Tips (with SBSK)
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- 0:00Hey guys, what's going on? But today we're talking about
- 0:02autism and education and some special Insight from my friend.
- 0:05Chris from special books by special kids.
- 0:07Okay guys, so I'm joined today by very very interesting guy as
- 0:11super influential. I actually have seen a ton of
- 0:13your videos before and your good friend of my friend Acer Mass
- 0:17from the father and bottom chunk.
- 0:19You guys obviously know a lot about and Chris runs a channel
- 0:22called SBS K, which you kind of what how would you define your
- 0:26tummy? You can take them.
- 0:27I like to say it's just an open platform for people.
- 0:30People living with different disabilities to share whatever
- 0:32it is. They want to share.
- 0:33Yeah, sometimes the interviews are just happy-go-lucky.
- 0:36Sometimes they're incredibly sad because I want to give a
- 0:39platform for people to share their truth.
- 0:41Whatever that truth may be. Absolutely.
- 0:43It's amazing because what I feel like your tunnel does is it
- 0:45gives like a very neutral platform with an unbiased and it
- 0:49just says it as it is and it's nice to give people a voice in
- 0:52my ear, especially the pits on the people you interview don't
- 0:53really have a voice for saying what you want to say on a
- 0:56platform, you know, and I think that's a super powerful as very
- 0:58powerful so Chris Before we get started I'm talking about
- 1:01education an awesome. You were talking about like
- 1:04metadata and optimizing video content for YouTube.
- 1:07And you said that you had a really interesting take on why
- 1:09you don't focus on metadata or yeah, like I don't even think
- 1:14about keywords. It's the last thing you do
- 1:16before you upload a video and I'm always like like like I
- 1:21don't know but there's a very very serious reason why I don't
- 1:24concern myself too much with analytics.
- 1:27Our goal is just to create essentially a an encyclopedia of
- 1:31people living with different conditions and that makes than
- 1:34explaining what life is like for them.
- 1:35So I have many people reach out to me and I can't filter through
- 1:39who I want to interview based on what's going to go viral because
- 1:42that's just so counterproductive to our mission of inclusion for
- 1:45everybody. Yeah.
- 1:46So when you start to focus on okay, what's the Hot Topic?
- 1:49What's the hot where you lose interest in the exactly you
- 1:51might not go to that interview of that person living with a
- 1:54rare disability across the world, but then the other
- 1:58families who also Are affected by the disability will have no
- 2:01resource absolutely and we're very fortunate that it's worked
- 2:05out for us. I understand that analytics and
- 2:07all that stuff does play a big part in the whole YouTube has
- 2:10now. Oh, yeah.
- 2:11I think it does NIA. Yeah, but such we've been good
- 2:14so far. No, it's good.
- 2:15And I think it's great and it's great to stick by that, you know
- 2:17ethics of morals that you stand by it, especially with the type
- 2:19of advocacy that you doing. I think it's amazing.
- 2:22But as you guys know, I'm obsessed with SEO and research
- 2:24and so it's one of my obsessions actually evolving, you know
- 2:26adults on the Spectrum condition.
- 2:28I'm obsessed with learning Certain things and this has been
- 2:30one of the things you give me any advice then because I
- 2:33honestly am at the beginning. Absolutely.
- 2:35Okay so off camera, I'm going to give Chris a bunch of advice.
- 2:38So we will do that. So right now we'll get into the
- 2:39content why people want to come and watch this video and first
- 2:41place? Okay, so, right.
- 2:43Yeah, I know for a fact that Chris is going to do a
- 2:45conference pretty soon in a couple of days on autism and
- 2:48education and the education or teaching or something in the
- 2:51education department of Academia.
- 2:53So essentially I speak to parents and teachers of children
- 2:58with disabilities and teach them.
- 3:00The form of positive bond with somebody and then how to take
- 3:03that Bond and then use it to help that person reach their
- 3:06full potential both socially and academically and here's the
- 3:09thing the same strategies you're going to use with somebody on
- 3:11the autism spectrum or the same strategies you're going to use
- 3:14with anybody. It's just that so often when
- 3:16somebody's Nero diverse. We Overlook these strategies.
- 3:21And as a simple strategy is something we all know everybody
- 3:24wants to be accepted. Absolutely, but we forget that
- 3:27everybody wants to be accepted not on their future potential
- 3:30but for their current state so you take a kid who is typically
- 3:34developing when he's at the place.
- 3:36He supposed to be you're able to praise Him o you're doing great.
- 3:39Oh my gosh, you're doing exactly what you're supposed to do.
- 3:42But when you have somebody who's behind a little bit we're so
- 3:46focused on catching them up. Yeah, we never praised them.
- 3:49We never tell them they're perfect.
- 3:50Just the way they are. And it creates this complex for
- 3:54these individuals at such an early age that man.
- 3:56I'm not good enough. I'm not good enough.
- 3:58Everybody's trying to change me. Nobody likes me the way I am.
- 4:01I'll never fit in. It's a accepting feeling you
- 4:04don't feel accepted for who you are you trying to strive to be
- 4:07somebody that they want you to be rather than just like you
- 4:10said being, you know having joy in the fact that you are diverse
- 4:13and individual and I think that's something super powerful
- 4:15actually and I know from my experience like, you know
- 4:18growing up in the 90s having Asperger's Syndrome.
- 4:22It's not you know, some of the most secure it has severe cases
- 4:25or conditions of an Autism Spectrum Disorder, you know, I
- 4:27know there are a bunch of kids who are non-verbal and there's a
- 4:29whole host of things that could be, you know, worse than you
- 4:32know, having Asperger's Syndrome but having a smoke signal happen
- 4:34was a huge struggle for the fact that my learning Tech was was
- 4:37almost ignored. So when I was in high school and
- 4:39I was in Primary School in the 90s, you know in the UK, it was
- 4:42just awesome wasn't a thing, you know, but you know, nobody know
- 4:44anything about it. So I felt super excluded from
- 4:47the educational standpoint and I felt outside of that opportunity
- 4:50bracket so on. Friends were like set by the
- 4:52level they were developing at certain rate because me, just
- 4:55like completely falling backwards and with no support so
- 4:58they put me like special ed classes, which is just rubbish.
- 5:01And are you coloring like pictures and like it was just
- 5:05stupid like it was not math lessons.
- 5:06They will, you know, you have to like Circle things that were
- 5:08related like circles. What's up for others also call
- 5:11the square is you know, it's like so weird stuff now the
- 5:14button real quick effective special education can be a great
- 5:18thing because in effect the schedule special education can
- 5:21be Big East. Setting of course.
- 5:22It could be the adverse effect to make you from Whispers
- 5:25nothing stimulating exactly and you know, so my partner used to
- 5:29work full-time for a special education Needs school.
- 5:31She has a degree in childhood studies and childhood
- 5:34development specifically in autism.
- 5:35So she know I she loves that kind of like, how did how do you
- 5:39how do you reach his personal communication?
- 5:41Like I said having them been feeling accepted feeling, you
- 5:44know feeling like they belong and reaching them with something
- 5:47that will help improve their Castle not really capture enough
- 5:50but at their Teach them effectively.
- 5:53So would you say that like now that is there's more
- 5:57understanding and unschooling is better or do you think that we
- 5:59still have huge ways to go? We definitely do have huge ways
- 6:05to go there is progress but it's minimal progress and it's almost
- 6:09like as a teacher you have to have some kind of complex where
- 6:12you need everybody to listen to you all the time.
- 6:14You need to have this grandiose feeling about yourself.
- 6:17And in order to be inclusive. You have to let go of those
- 6:20feelings that hey this kid might have a processing time.
- 6:23That's a little bit longer. You might not listen to you
- 6:25right away and he's not doing anything to disrupt your class.
- 6:29He's not intentionally not listening and being
- 6:31non-compliant. You just might need a little
- 6:34extra time. But so often a teacher takes
- 6:36that non-compliance in the first few seconds and ceases as that
- 6:40child is not listening to me. So they punish that shot.
- 6:42Yeah. Yeah, so it's really just
- 6:44ignorance. Yeah.
- 6:45Um, he's huge thing. I mean, what would you say is
- 6:48the biggest issue facing, you know Pete children will Spectrum
- 6:52being in the school of education systems.
- 6:53What would you say the biggest issue is There's everything
- 6:57available answer would be that's what I thought.
- 7:01The sad thing. Is that the answer some simple
- 7:04these things were talking about which people are learning and
- 7:07whatever 20 minute video. Hmm.
- 7:09It teachers will tell if this that would change the way these
- 7:12kids are educated. It's so simple yet.
- 7:15It's not taught. I didn't learn this.
- 7:16I have my master's degree in education.
- 7:18I didn't learn this stuff. It's all from personal
- 7:20experience. So yeah, I mean, that's true.
- 7:23I think like in terms of Educating Educators.
- 7:29How are we going to do that? How what is its do you feel like
- 7:32it's going to be best with things like videos like this and
- 7:34your Channel or do you think it's like creating training
- 7:37programs to go into education establishments and academics to
- 7:40say? Hey, okay, you need to really
- 7:42listen to this program. Well, how do you think the most
- 7:43effective way to solve this issue?
- 7:46The way I think is most effective is for an individual
- 7:49and not a whole Community is what I'm doing with my videos.
- 7:53I solve this problem when I was in the classroom and I decided
- 7:57that I was going to model the correct.
- 7:59What I believed was the correct Behavior.
- 8:00It's not like I have all the answers.
- 8:02I'm yeah best I can but I was going to model it and then
- 8:04through these videos I realized that I can model.
- 8:07What I believe are is the correct way to interact with
- 8:09people and have a large audience watches.
- 8:13So I hope that through the videos I put out on SBS K people
- 8:16can watch Salmon learn. Okay.
- 8:17Well, that's how I do that or that's how I do that.
- 8:20Definitely. I think you know like it you
- 8:21guys have such a large audience base and the shareability of
- 8:25your videos are so high. I believe that you are having a
- 8:28massive impact on helping educate and change the lives of
- 8:31people by simply putting it, right.
- 8:33You know, like I said, I watched your videos and the way you do
- 8:37your style approach to it is it's so warm and I love watching
- 8:40the videos and it was only on the Spectrum watching it.
- 8:43I feel I don't feel on edge. You know me as I watch a lot of
- 8:45things in my career. Look, you know they I don't feel
- 8:48quite nervous when I watch things because I'm not sure
- 8:50where it's going to go away don't know how they made it with
- 8:52your videos. They're so like calming it's
- 8:55just dead nice, you know, and I enjoyed watching it sometimes
- 8:58known because I'm interested in a lot of content, but I know
- 9:00that I'm going to enjoy it because relaxing in a way that
- 9:03is good. And that means a lot to me and I
- 9:05want to point out that I was it wasn't always like that it was
- 9:08there was a learning process number one being on camera and
- 9:11interviewing people I was so uncomfortable at first because
- 9:14I'm not a camera person I was Teacher should and if you watch
- 9:18some of my earlier videos, I'm really awkward.
- 9:20I mean, I'm still awkward. No, no, but I was way more
- 9:22awkward in the beginning, you know, and even with the the
- 9:25methodologies and techniques that you use the tall just
- 9:28learned experience. So if you're watching this and
- 9:31you feel like you're not confident in the way you
- 9:33interact with others, the only way you're going to learn is by
- 9:36practicing obviously, I'm descending saying that like
- 9:39practice makes progress because everyone saw strives for
- 9:41perfect, right? There's no such thing as perfect
- 9:43as when you reach perfect. You just decline so always
- 9:45remember the practice makes Progress and that Please Release
- 9:47the pressure of you're trying to reach perfect nothing's ever
- 9:49perfect, but you will get progress and I think you're
- 9:52right. My first video on YouTube is
- 9:53terrible. I felt on an iPad there's no
- 9:55lighting and I have no idea what camera lens to look at.
- 9:58The camera lens wasn't happening.
- 9:59So it's something again. It was a learning curve and I
- 10:01feel like the take away from everything is that everything is
- 10:05a learning curve and it may not be the teacher's fault that
- 10:09they're not able to effectively Edge.
- 10:12It won't but some of them may not be able to edit effectively
- 10:14educate people in a way that is Correct, or not, really correct,
- 10:19but in it the best they can because they may be unaware of
- 10:22the information that they need to get access to and I think
- 10:23that it's our job as advocates and people watching videos like
- 10:27this to share it in those areas and recommend it to teachers so
- 10:30that they do start to kind of then reach out to programs and
- 10:33come and see talks like the URI or whatever to understand a bit
- 10:36more about that. And I think that that's a good
- 10:38way to do it as well and you reminded me of a philosophy.
- 10:40I've always subscribed to since I entered the classroom and it's
- 10:43just personal accountability often times.
- 10:46If there's a student acting up the blame will be placed on the
- 10:50student. Well, why is he doing this?
- 10:51It's given with attention this punish him whenever that
- 10:54happened in my classroom. I would look at myself and say
- 10:57why is this student not exhibiting the behavior that I
- 11:00want him to exhibit. What am I doing wrong?
- 11:02What's wrong with the environment?
- 11:03What can I do to tweak? So when you have that mindset it
- 11:07makes you explore. It makes you change things and
- 11:10you realize that there's nothing wrong with the kid.
- 11:13Yeah. There's something wrong with
- 11:14what you're doing Improvement that you need to implement.
- 11:16Exactly. Absolutely, right?
- 11:17Yes, I could help ya. I've adapted that with my
- 11:19professional life as a CEO of a video on my channel doesn't do.
- 11:22Well I think to myself. Okay.
- 11:24Well, the person I interviewed was amazing.
- 11:25What did I do wrong that I asked the wrong questions that I
- 11:28edited the wrong way. So when you take that personal
- 11:31accountability with everything in your life, it forces you to
- 11:34examine yourself reflect and get better.
- 11:37Absolutely. That was something that I live
- 11:39with YouTube is you watch the do anything.
- 11:41How can I improve this and even if you think it's a good video I
- 11:44think maybe the audio getting better.
- 11:46Maybe the position of the camera the lighting can be better right
- 11:48now, even though filming this that there's loads of things we
- 11:50could have done better. It may be Overexposed and
- 11:52scenarios and you know the color correction free time.
- 11:54But if we apply those same principles to everything we do
- 11:56in life if it's advocacy education understanding from
- 11:59bolting self-acceptance. I think we'd all kind of
- 12:03progress at a rapid rate and it would be good if we get it we
- 12:07give everybody involved but right with that being said
- 12:09because I wanna thank you so much for taking the time to come
- 12:11in the room and talk to us because we're I here in Boston
- 12:14right now doing a an amazing thing.
- 12:16Actually, it's a the lead 20 leaders Summit conference get
- 12:22together networking. It's everything all I have is it
- 12:25and it's all if people like it impressing myself who are
- 12:28working in this field for advocacy for people with
- 12:30disabilities doing amazing things.
- 12:32I will actually leave a link in the description below if you
- 12:33want to check out what we're actually doing here goes, what
- 12:35would I feel like what we're doing?
- 12:36We just were at the start something absolutely phenomenal
- 12:39certainly super blessed and I'm like honored to be here.
- 12:42So and in the you know, the presence of people like Chris is
- 12:45definitely amazing and I've watched Videos in Arnold super
- 12:47like oh my goodness Chrissy. So it's amazing dress.
- 12:49I thank you so much. Yeah such a pleasure.
- 12:51I'm doing great things on your channel.
- 12:53I look forward to watching your videos for years to come.
- 12:55Thank you man. I appreciate that and I'm saying
- 12:57I'm Dale. I love watching your videos.
- 12:58So yeah awesome.