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The O-Zone Podcast | Grinding for Every Opportunity with Emmanuel Pregnon · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: The Ozone.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to The Ozone Podcast with Jaguar's Senior Writer, John Osher.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome to this week's Week 2 Ozone Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Jaguar's Senior Writer, John Osher, and I'm in the
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  Speaker 2: Hyundai Studios. Today's interview, this is again the interview Friday
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  Speaker 2: edition of The Ozone Podcast, will be Jaguar's Rookie Guard,
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  Speaker 2: Emmanuel Pregnon. I'm looking forward to that. Also looking forward
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  Speaker 2: to talking about Emmanuel to Jaguars analyst Jeff Lagerman. Jeff, again,
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  Speaker 2: thank you for doing this. We'll talk about the game
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  Speaker 2: in a little bit. But tell me about Pregnon. We
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  Speaker 2: talked a little bit right before we started this. There's
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  Speaker 2: some special stuff here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a very unique player from the standpoint of it,
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  Speaker 3: much like a wide receiver that has great speed.
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  Speaker 1: You just can't coach great speed.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Emmanuel Pregnant, they call him E-Man, which I think
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  Speaker 3: is kind of interesting because you remember when we were
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  Speaker 3: growing up as kids, John, we had the He-Man dolls?
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  Speaker 2: Sure. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, E-Man plays like He-Man.
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  Speaker 2: That's good.
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  Speaker 3: He's one of those big, strong dudes. And there's not
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  Speaker 3: very many offensive linemen in the National Football League that
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  Speaker 3: literally move people like that. There's a lot of stalemates
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  Speaker 3: and angle blocks and such. But to have that rare
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  Speaker 3: trait of moving people around and the way he finishes
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  Speaker 3: is He's a special player. There's one guy, I think,
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  Speaker 3: in the league that would probably be a comp, and
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  Speaker 3: that's Quinn Miners for the Denver Broncos, which we'll.
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  Speaker 1: See this week.
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  Speaker 3: And he's, you know, I think a couple-time All-Pro guy.
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  Speaker 2: So he's got that ability.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, not there yet.
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  Speaker 1: First game. No, and he's still got a lot more.
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  Speaker 2: But my understanding is you saw some signs last week
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  Speaker 2: of special.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Again, the whole moving people. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: His balance in pass pro was a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: a concern for me. That was the one thing I
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  Speaker 3: was like, well, how is he going to handle the
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  Speaker 3: twists and the games and the blitzes and all that?
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  Speaker 3: And did remarkably well. There was a couple things where
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  Speaker 3: he was pulling the angles. He got a little bit
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  Speaker 3: kind of out of sorts. But for a first one
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  Speaker 3: out of the gate, I'd give him an A. And
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait and see what's next. And you go
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  Speaker 3: back to... The whole New Orleans joint practice, I think
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  Speaker 3: that was a pivotal moment for this football team because
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  Speaker 3: if you're going to be a head coach, you've got
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  Speaker 3: to be a leader and you've got to hold people accountable.
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  Speaker 3: And the level of performance that they got in that
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  Speaker 3: joint practice wasn't where they wanted it to be, which prompted, hey,
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  Speaker 3: put Emmanuel Pregnon in at left guard, move Ezra Cleveland
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  Speaker 3: to right guard, and all of a sudden you saw
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  Speaker 3: the level of performance go up. John, we may look
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  Speaker 3: back on that decision today as being maybe the pivotal
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  Speaker 3: moment for this entire season.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And for an offensive line that, again, when this group
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  Speaker 2: took over, it talked about the offensive line, you know,
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  Speaker 2: having to get better. I thought it did last year.
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  Speaker 2: And you're seeing with Pregnant and Borkature, I know he's
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  Speaker 2: not an offensive line, you know what I'm getting at,
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  Speaker 2: physicality is just, you know, Starting to be the theme there,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's going to be intriguing to watch
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  Speaker 2: that group change over time. Denver, big game. We sort
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  Speaker 2: of saw it last year how it feels out there.
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  Speaker 2: You've played there. We'll get into how you think it'll feel,
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  Speaker 2: but tell me the key offensively for the Jaguars in
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  Speaker 2: this game. Same as December, different. Tell me about that dynamic. Well....
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  Speaker 3: A little different in that, you know, when they went
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  Speaker 3: out there last year in December, they didn't run the
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  Speaker 3: ball very well.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And they threw the ball incredibly well. I still believe
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  Speaker 3: that you have to be able to run the ball
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  Speaker 3: because it just, it takes all the pressure off of everything.
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  Speaker 3: It quiets the crowd. It allows you to maintain manageable
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  Speaker 3: down and distances, whether it's second down or third down.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm still a believer in having the ability to
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  Speaker 3: run the football, especially with what Happened on Monday night.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Denver had a hard time stopping the run,
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  Speaker 3: and Kansas City racked up 220 yards rushing. And the
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  Speaker 3: National Football League is one of these copycat leagues where
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  Speaker 3: if you don't stop it one week, you're going to
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  Speaker 3: see it the next week. And I'm sure the Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: are going to see what the Kansas City Chiefs were
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  Speaker 3: doing schematically and maybe try some of the same things
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  Speaker 3: to see if Denver has cleaned them up.
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  Speaker 2: Quickly, did you like– it was such an emphasis in
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  Speaker 2: the offseason here, the running game. Did you like the
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  Speaker 2: first steps of what you saw against the Browns?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I like the physicality of Rodriguez. I like the burst
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  Speaker 3: that Basial Tootin has. Basial Tootin, I think we're just
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  Speaker 3: starting to see how good he can be. Because when
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  Speaker 3: he gets into the open, that 4.28 speed is really
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  Speaker 3: going to separate him, I think, from a lot of.
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  Speaker 2: The other running backs. It's a big play waiting to
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  Speaker 2: happen at some point.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh, yes.
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  Speaker 3: If he had one run that went for, let's say,
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  Speaker 3: 40 yards, imagine what his numbers would be. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: obviously the numbers were still good. And the number of
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  Speaker 3: yards that he gained after contact I think were exceptional.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you like what he did in short yardage
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  Speaker 2: last week, that's the positive because you know the long
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  Speaker 2: one's going to come.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's coming.
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  Speaker 3: And like the screen play where it got all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden, you know, all of a sudden, there he goes.
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  Speaker 1: You know. And I like him.
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  Speaker 3: I think the more he plays, the more confidence he's
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  Speaker 3: going to gain. Because remember, what, a couple years ago
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  Speaker 3: he was playing at a small school in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. key defensively for the jaguars against the broncos team
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  Speaker 2: that struggled monday but this seems not to be now
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  Speaker 2: the broncos aren't going to struggle all year no and.
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  Speaker 3: I think you got to manage the big plays you
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  Speaker 3: know you've got a couple good wide receivers that and
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  Speaker 3: one of them they gave up a pretty good amount
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  Speaker 3: of draft picks for and jalen waddle from miami dolphins
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  Speaker 3: and You already have the other wide receiver, Cortland Sutton,
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  Speaker 3: who's been around and catching the ball for many years
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  Speaker 3: there in Denver.
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  Speaker 2: Very reliable.
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  Speaker 3: Very good player, Evan Ingram, a solid receiving tight end,
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  Speaker 3: not much of a blocker. So, yeah, I think that's
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  Speaker 3: the big thing, the explosive plays that Bo Nix can
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  Speaker 3: create with his legs and extending the play. I think
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  Speaker 3: you've got to handle some of that. But I'm a
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  Speaker 3: big believer in that if you go to Denver and
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  Speaker 3: you play your brand of bully ball at its best,
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  Speaker 3: I think you win this game.
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  Speaker 2: Got you. All right. That leads into how it will feel.
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  Speaker 2: I like asking that question because we've been to a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stadiums. We've seen a lot of football. So
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  Speaker 2: you can get a vibe for how the game might
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  Speaker 2: look early. To me, Jeff, this game is going to take–
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  Speaker 2: there was something about the Jaguars' performance in Denver last year.
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  Speaker 2: I guess the way they never let up. And it
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  Speaker 2: was such an intense game, start to finish. And you
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  Speaker 2: kept expecting, well, they just had a great offensive series.
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  Speaker 2: Surely they can't do it. And they kept doing it, remember? Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: and there was that intensity. I think you need that
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  Speaker 2: to win a game like that. Do you anticipate this
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  Speaker 2: having that same sort of just 60-minute feel, I guess
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  Speaker 2: is what I'm getting at?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I think absolutely. And look, Denver's a good football team.
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  Speaker 3: And they had a hard time on Monday night, and
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  Speaker 3: I think they're going to be very motivated, and I
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  Speaker 3: think there's going to be ebbs and flows, and.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of the challenge.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you just got done hammering the Cleveland Browns,
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  Speaker 3: and you were in complete control of the game from
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  Speaker 3: beginning to end. There was no ebbs and flows like
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  Speaker 3: you would normally.
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  Speaker 1: Expect in a game. It can be sustained, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going to have ebbs and flows in this
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  Speaker 3: game against Denver. They're just too good of a football team.
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  Speaker 3: And I think also there's some very unsettling memories for
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  Speaker 3: this game from their side.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a huge key.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that they're going to have some things
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  Speaker 3: that are, I think, special for the Jaguars because I
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  Speaker 3: think the Jaguars did a really good job of– for
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  Speaker 3: lack of a better term, outcoaching the Denver Broncos last year.
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  Speaker 3: And Sean Payton's a very proud coach. And so it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be interesting to see how they respond from
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  Speaker 3: the disappointment of Monday night, but then also the disappointment
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  Speaker 3: from last year's game in Denver.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've thought, ever since the game was on the schedule,
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  Speaker 2: I've thought, you know, I don't know Sean, but I
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  Speaker 2: know people who've been around him. If the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the league doesn't respect the Jaguars... I think Sean Payton,
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  Speaker 2: after that game, respects it and says, no way he's
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  Speaker 2: overlooking this one, I guess. And I think that whole team,
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  Speaker 2: I think this is, I get that it's not the
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  Speaker 2: national game or whatever, but for these two teams, this
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  Speaker 2: is big early season stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And it not being the national game.
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  Speaker 1: Right there, bulletin board material. Let me write it down.
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  Speaker 3: That level of disrespect continues for this football team, and
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  Speaker 3: Liam Cohn's going to use that.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic. Jeff, thank you. We now move on to the
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  Speaker 2: Ozone interview with Jaguars left guard, Emmanuel Pragnon. Starting left guard,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure everybody expected that. Did you expect that,
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  Speaker 2: or did you know what to expect coming in?
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  Speaker 1: I really didn't know what to expect. I just put
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  Speaker 1: my head down and worked. I try to earn every day,
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  Speaker 1: earn my job, earn my role, and I know what
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  Speaker 1: I came here to do, and I I know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm capable of, so I just wanted to help the
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  Speaker 1: team the best way I know I could.
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  Speaker 2: What's life like for you right now? I know you've
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  Speaker 2: been in Jacksonville for about four or five months. Is
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  Speaker 2: the whirlwind over? Are you into a routine? Do you
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  Speaker 2: feel like you know where the bathrooms are, so to speak?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say four to five months in being here,
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  Speaker 1: everything is pretty much slowed down. Sure. So I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I got a grasp of everything.
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  Speaker 2: I got you. Now, Wyoming 20-22, USC 23-24, Oregon 20-25. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: That's not something that used to happen in college football. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How has that helped when you come in as a
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  Speaker 2: rookie player? I assume you've learned over time how to learn,
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  Speaker 2: how to adjust, how to move your life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Has that helped you?
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  Speaker 1: I would say it has, honestly. Pretty much like just
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  Speaker 1: going from place to place. I think the biggest thing
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  Speaker 1: that I took was, you know, just being able to
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  Speaker 1: adapt to your environment. And I feel like that's a
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  Speaker 1: trait that, you know, some people might not have. Mm-hmm. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and I feel like that's one, one thing I devised, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just throughout my collegiate career that's helped me
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  Speaker 1: wherever I've gone.
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  Speaker 2: So the furthest East is Wyoming. How have you adjusted
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  Speaker 2: to Jacksonville and the furthest South maybe? So, well, West
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  Speaker 2: South LA. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, so I assume this is the furthest East you've
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  Speaker 2: ever lived. Uh, adjustment in climate, anything, anything there?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just say, obviously, it's like very humid here.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: So that was a bit of an adjustment once I,
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  Speaker 1: you know, first arrived. But, you know, I've gotten used
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  Speaker 1: to it and I love hot climate. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: was born and raised in Denver, Colorado. So I grew
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  Speaker 1: up with, you know, cold all my life and dry heat.
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  Speaker 1: And then once I came here, it was kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I fell home because I like tropical environments.
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  Speaker 2: So some people like it when they only have to
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: spend a week there, but you're fine living there. Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: That serves you well because it's pretty hot here in
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  Speaker 2: the summer and humid. You just mentioned it. From Denver,
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  Speaker 2: kind of wild to be going back and playing your
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  Speaker 2: second NFL game. I assume there will be a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the Pregnant family there.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's correct.
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  Speaker 2: Any number on tickets or any– I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Right now we're looking at about 12.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, 12 people.
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  Speaker 2: Have you had to remind them that you're still on
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  Speaker 2: a rookie salary? Is that the– Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But what would that mean to you, playing at home
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  Speaker 2: in front of people?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, in front of my family as well. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I would say, you know, my family hasn't had the
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  Speaker 1: most opportunities, you know, to come see me play in person. Sure.
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  Speaker 1: just due to, you know, obligations outside of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my football and everything. So, like, it'll be, like, huge,
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  Speaker 1: you know, huge to me. I can't really express it,
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  Speaker 1: but it's, I mean, like, I know when they're there,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do everything in my power, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that, you know, they're happy and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Jags are happy.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I know from reading something about you, family is
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  Speaker 2: a big part of who you are. Can I read
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  Speaker 2: a quote from a story that they wrote about you
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  Speaker 2: at USC that I really loved?
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And this is in reference to your mom. She would
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  Speaker 2: get up at 4 a.m. and come back at 5 p.m.
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  Speaker 2: every day. She was soldier-like because she had an objective,
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  Speaker 2: to take care of us and provide for us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How real is that for you, and what does it
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  Speaker 2: mean to you?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's... I mean, that's the realest thing ever.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like, especially within my family growing up, that
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  Speaker 1: was really the standard that my mother set. And I
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  Speaker 1: really got to see what goes in a day of
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  Speaker 1: work and how much work, you know, that you put
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  Speaker 1: in that, you know, some people might not take into account.
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  Speaker 1: And that was things that my mother was doing for
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  Speaker 1: us just to make ends meet. And just like I said,
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  Speaker 1: it was soldier-like to me. So, I feel like that
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  Speaker 1: really set my foundation as far as, like, my work
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  Speaker 1: ethic and how I'm supposed to come to work every day,
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  Speaker 1: you know, is no different. And you're always striving for,
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  Speaker 1: you know, 1% to 2% better every day. What can
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  Speaker 1: you work on? And, you know, how can you be
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  Speaker 1: present even if you're tired or, you know, feeling down?
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  Speaker 1: Because my mom was always there. Even after all those
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  Speaker 1: long hours, she would, you know, make those meals, you know,
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  Speaker 1: talk to me. we will watch TV together or do
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  Speaker 1: anything just to, you know, be a family. So shout
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  Speaker 1: out mom.
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  Speaker 2: Now she didn't love the idea of football at first, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me that story.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean, um, you know, my, my mother,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she's from the Ivory Coast, West Africa. So like, um,
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  Speaker 1: growing up, she always wanted me to play basketball or,
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  Speaker 1: you know, soccer, played it in middle school. Um, and
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  Speaker 1: then I was really just a basketball guy.
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  Speaker 2: You would have been interesting to watch on the soccer field.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember when I was in the eighth grade,
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  Speaker 1: I was in eighth grade and I was playing basketball.
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  Speaker 1: I was pretty much fixated on just hooping. And one
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  Speaker 1: of my high school coaches, Derek Martin, shout out Derek,
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  Speaker 1: told me when I joined his futures program that I'd
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  Speaker 1: be starting guard or tackle in the NFL someday, just
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  Speaker 1: looking at me. And I was like, at first I
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  Speaker 1: was like, nah, I'm about to be in the NBA,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, look where we're at.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now, is it true? You told your mom, Hey, this
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  Speaker 2: could potentially feed our family one day. Yeah. Like that
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  Speaker 2: was a conversation you had. So that was a real
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  Speaker 2: thing early on, clearly your size, but that was a
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  Speaker 2: real thing early on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to say like around when I was
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  Speaker 1: in the ninth or 10th grade, I knew that football
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  Speaker 1: was going to pay the bills.
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  Speaker 2: Now that said an unranked recruit still had to work
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  Speaker 2: your way here. I assume what you said, your mom's
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  Speaker 2: work ethic, I assume was the spine all throughout.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Just being an unranked player coming out of, High school,
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  Speaker 1: I only had one offer, you know, University of Wyoming.
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  Speaker 1: And I knew what I had to do. I know
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  Speaker 1: all odds were against me, but it really didn't matter
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  Speaker 1: to me. You know, I just knew that I had
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity, and I knew the world that didn't know
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  Speaker 1: my name. So that's the same mindset I have today
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  Speaker 1: is work like the world doesn't know your name.
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  Speaker 2: That's great. It's a good saying. One more quote from
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  Speaker 2: that story that I found interesting. I grew up in
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  Speaker 2: an African household, so many of my customs and values
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  Speaker 2: came from there. Background and upbringing, a big part of
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  Speaker 2: why I am the man I am today. Explain that
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  Speaker 2: a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if I was to get into that,
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  Speaker 1: I would probably, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Be late for your meeting, so we can keep it short. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I would just say, to put it in shorter words,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Perfection. Being a part of a household like that,
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  Speaker 1: when I was growing up, I remember my father, whenever
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  Speaker 1: I would speak to him or my mother would say,
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  Speaker 1: this is the standard. If you're going to do anything
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  Speaker 1: in life, you better be the best at it. And
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  Speaker 1: there is no exception. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So you listen to your father.
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  Speaker 1: And my mother as well, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I got you. Now, I understand defense to start and
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  Speaker 2: then transfer to offense in high school. And- Still, one
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: of the quotes again I saw, that mentality is what
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: you take into offense, right? You feel like you play
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: like a defensive player on offense.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I know I hear a lot of D
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  Speaker 1: linemen say they want to rush the quarterback and get
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  Speaker 1: after the offense and all those things like that. And
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  Speaker 1: what I pretty much mean by that is like, attacking people,
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  Speaker 1: you know, rather than letting people attack you. So that's
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: my mindset is you're not going to hit me before
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  Speaker 1: I hit you.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me about, very quickly, the first game in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: adjusting the NFL. It seems like you've made the adjustment.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to call it easy, but have you
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: shown yourself that you can do it at this level?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say so. And I would also say, like,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like I have. There's always room for improvement,
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  Speaker 1: and so I'm always looking for, you know, deficiencies within
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  Speaker 1: my game that I can work on, and I just
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  Speaker 1: really push myself to, you know, continue to work on
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  Speaker 1: those things and make them my strengths, you know, to
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  Speaker 1: make my game complete.
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  Speaker 2: Very quickly, we'll wrap it with what I call the
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  Speaker 2: Ozone Five.
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  Speaker 1: The Ozone Five.
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  Speaker 2: Five.
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  Speaker 1: Five.
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  Speaker 2: Five. Five quick questions. Best collegiate opponent you ever had.
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  Speaker 1: Best collegiate opponent, I would say, was probably Indiana in
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  Speaker 1: 25 or Fresno State in 22, I believe, 22 or 23.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I read that you got into hiking and fishing in Oregon. Yep.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: What's your best outdoors experience?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Best outdoors experience was... probably when I ventured out hiking.
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  Speaker 1: I forget what the place was called, but just went
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: outdoors with my lady as a first date and never
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  Speaker 1: looked back ever since. Shout out my lady.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic. Feet of strength you're most proud of? and then
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: you've lifted any, any strength moment?
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  Speaker 1: I would probably say, I'll probably say 800, 800 pound squat.
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  Speaker 2: Me too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, have you ever been overpowered on the field?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, it happens.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It happens. Um, biggest thing is your, your response. Gotcha.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Your go-to restaurant in Jacksonville.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Go-to restaurant in Jacksonville. I'll probably say, Oh, my gosh. Spice's.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Spice's Caribbean restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: Emmanuel, this was fantastic. I know you've got a meeting
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  Speaker 2: coming up. I appreciate you joining the Ozone podcast. I
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  Speaker 2: know Jaguars fans look forward to watching you in the future.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you.