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Samael Morningstar | A Near-Death-Meth Experience, Dark Gnosticism, and Photographika · My Family Thinks I'm Crazy

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[SPEAKER_01]: My family thinks I'm crazy, podcast where I, your host, try to give you some tips on how you can explain all this weird, wild, crazy conspiracy stuff, the people you love most.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's what I've been trying to do for the past 10 years with no success.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now they don't want to listen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't want to hear it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just like, oh, here we go, Mark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Aw, again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be hard to be a Mark again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that's the thing about old eyedass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You are now listening to my family thinks I'm crazy podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host, Mystic Mark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for tuning in and enjoy this episode with my family thinks I'm crazy podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But today's guest, Samuel Morningstar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to my family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Think some crazy podcast coming to you live from our remote studio, not the normal studio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my apologies if things sound a little different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But joining me today is a top-notch guest who I'm sure you're gonna love technical differences aside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My man, Samuel Morningstar is here to talk to us today
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[SPEAKER_01]: Samah, Libur, Samahel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So without further ado,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sam Al, welcome to the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have plenty in common in the sense that what you're talking about in this book, Lieber Sam Al, is, you know, fits right at home on this show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But before we get started on some questions that I have for you, what sent you down this path to begin with?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was there like a initial experience
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, thought or experience you had an event in your life that led down this path that you're currently treading, where did this all begin?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's, well, there's been a few.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of driven by music.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I found my story in a lot of that I have you metal that I listen to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're somehow turning songs and but the main event that put me salivately on my path was on the Autumn Equinox of 2017, I was using recreational substance at that time and hand
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had been experimenting around with an energy that would visit me while I was on certain substances.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was trying to get it to leave me alone, basically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I figured out that it was like attracted to direct current running through like a charging cable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I essentially broke part of my energetic body
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[SPEAKER_00]: began a lot of odd physical sensations, odd physical effects, and soon after that, the spiritual stuff started happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, so on the Equinox of, let me ask you to break that down real quick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Before you go into more detail on what happened,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you did I hear this right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You had your your spiritual body or your astral body in other words broken apart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what she said?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think that feels painful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it started as like a white line that went through my vision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when I couldn't see it anymore, I could feel it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could taste it and it just ping pongged around in my body back and forth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, my bones were popping, making all these weird noises, and um, like a half hour of agony on my bed, it finally stopped, and uh, then to my horror, the wall next to me made a loud popping noise, and then like two or three more, and each time I did it, it changed, like the pattern on the stucco just a little bit, and uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, that was when I realized that there's going to get interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what, what about the timing of this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you put any thought to timing it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did it just happen to be on that auspicious day and, you know, was your goal to like break through and maybe this was an unforeseen consequence?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what was going on before this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, in my mind, well, I had been raised in the Catholic Church and everything, grew to the little table of it, but I didn't have any plans of trying to break out from reality or step out of the matrix I just wanted to not have these spiritual things happened to me when I would go and try and get
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[SPEAKER_00]: a little bit of a break from reality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can, yeah, my goal was to just stop this gray cold dust that would appear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and it was like laying down my skin in my electronics and it would broke my, it would ruin my electronics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It would like eat through cables, clicking the crash by something you're experiencing like a dream.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is having like physical effects on your environment as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And people around me were experiencing it too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, I validation on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, and this is not the place where we're gonna doubt you at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: hear your story and full detail.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, um, so okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like maybe I jumped in and asked you a bunch of questions and maybe broke up the flow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you were kind of getting around to talking about like your real intentions with all of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you mentioned just now how you wanted to just
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[SPEAKER_01]: that you can maybe manipulate this kind of energy, like you were just trying to, it was overwhelming is kind of what I, this sense I'm getting from you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that this was like overwhelming kind of thing that you didn't necessarily intend to get involved with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to speak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and like the the great dust brought like voice to skull technology.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would hear all sorts of interesting,
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[SPEAKER_00]: crazy things and I knew they weren't my thoughts so yeah it was just something I wanted to you know stop from happening and say where I could go and enjoy myself when I wanted to and about the time you know I'm on the
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[SPEAKER_00]: the night of the event, the August 17th, or excuse me, September 17th, the 21st, the 21st, the 21st, was the night that the constellation described in Revelation was a chapter nine, verses 11 through 12.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The woman would the crown, you know, the crown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That constellation, well, that transit happened that night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've learned that there's a lot of coincidences in my story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of things that align with basically what society has for lower and prophecy about the end
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[SPEAKER_01]: I imagine your soul having this, like, what sounds like a traumatic experience, your next instinct is, how do I correct this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you go about trying to figure out what exactly happened, you know, like, how did you make sense of that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What sounds like a very painful and invasive experience?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It took me a while to make sense of it and understand really what I had done and why I had done it and who I had become like the my left and my right sides, my body are split by this invisible divide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have different energetic effects on my left and my right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I also have the ability to control things energetically with my breath and the passageway that I take my breath through and release it through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is each on a different side of the body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I figure that's probably because the heart being a vortex or something the way the lungs are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It put me into a negative state.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when I breathe in, I kind of pull everything around me towards me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when I breathe out, nothing happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't push back out or anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't expand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So interestingly enough, I've been caught in this negative vacuum
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[SPEAKER_00]: and a bunch of other things to go through and turn it into something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The, it's turning into the ride majestic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my mother knew that I wasn't making it all up, but she thought that most of it was probably because of the drugs I was using and that it was probably in psychosis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I knew I went through a treatment program and stopped and the physical effects still were there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't leave me, it was just one of the things that I knew that I was on a path different from everyone else's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I was in treatment, I remember I went outside and one of the things I figured out I could do early on was interact with the sky above me and I could like pinch at a
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[SPEAKER_00]: skewing off to the side and I did that while I was in treatment one night when when I when I said spoke cigarette one of the guys he saw it and it was asking questions how do you do that about you know and it's like uh well not quite sure but yeah it took me a long time to figure out exactly what was going on
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, what do you think is going on?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, in that instance, that example, you just gave, you're using your mind to consciously connect to something that
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know we've been told stars are millions of miles away but for all we know that could be just the pinpoint of light some sort of consciousness conscious entity right so there's all sorts of you know programming that we have to dislodge ourselves from before we're able to kind of understand exactly what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like you
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, thanks to the help of some pretty serious drugs, we're kind of like pushed out onto the other side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, oh, hey, figure it all out from here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no waiting instantly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You dove, you know, head first in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, now you say you do understand what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What exactly do you think is happening with the, what we would call a star?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you think it's a star.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, what would yeah, sort of break it down for me because this is new to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I am one of the things I did to help me figure out who I am was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a hold of the astrologer, the lead of Corole.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she did my birth chart and
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[SPEAKER_00]: She did ask stories and everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She did like a deep dive into it and found some really cool and interesting stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I am exactly what my astrology chart says I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in astrology, your sun is your energy of projecting, like you under the, under this plane and then your north note is your direction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my son and my north note are right next to each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And between them sits the star Mark Cobb or Elfa Pegasan, it's the shadow of the Pegasus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She told me that she would hold my chart as divine and that our relationship was ending there because she couldn't tell me what to do next because it would probably interfere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I know I'm a star, I've gone out into the, I've gone outside a few times at night and with this big bright blue star in the middle of the sky, like begging for attention and it's always more cop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm a cosmic object, I am a star.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I know from the music that they talk about the broken star being sent down here to a break us out of reality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I am a cosmic being and I broke
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[SPEAKER_00]: part of the change that were keeping me from being able to remember and realize that and interact with essentially my family up in the sky and the heavens above.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you was, I broke my inside state and gave myself a new perspective.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So because of the romantic principle and everything as above so below or as within so without what's happening inside happens outside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I see it in a really heavily exaggerated way whenever I do things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you give us an example?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's stick with this guy still for now, um, while I was trying to figure out who I am because I know I'm not this person, my parents raised and had hopes and aspirations to go to college and, you know, start a family and everything, um, I know I wasn't that person anymore, and I knew that I could do things humans can, so, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I consulted the music, that's what I do whenever I have questions or need to know something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have great, great, great, clear audience gives that volume.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my favorite band, Swedish progressive metal outfit called Soin, they have written a bunch
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[SPEAKER_00]: two deeply personal to be that anyone but me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I knew that I had to figure out who I was, the music that I used to guide me through this kept telling me that I needed to remember my name
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you say to music reminded you, you're witnessing these synchronicities, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's synchronicities, songs that you're hearing are connecting with things that are going on in your daily life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to come to mind when you, I mean, maybe start with the band, a particular band, or song that resonates with you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing you had a night of my rapture, slasher rapture, is told in a song by the band in flames, and the song is called Minus, and it starts off with a drug me infiltrate my neverland, like a flood tide drowning ashore, drug me, you are all over me, I watched my
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the course of it is, I love that lullaby start me up again, electric spine open mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll leave you negative behind, watch me all in flames on a butterfly I ride.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it goes on to continue talking about how I can breathe, you know, inhale the light and relax for some time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The world outside is numb tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for your mind, express the forgotten, the world inside is yours tonight, and like whenever I walk outside, the sun will basically try and find me and when I breathe in, I really
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[SPEAKER_00]: that I, there's one seed left with the gods and that, it's mine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they also, in poems also have the songs, let's see, Cloud Connected talks about how, someone on this path would be connected with everything that they need through basically this guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's it's it's quite interesting and let's see one of the things I discovered too was I've had serpents in the sky every like if I go outside take a picture of the sky you can find the serpent somewhere in there or many of them there's dragons in the sky above me all the time
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that in Revelation, the enemy of God is the dragon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if the other person with dragons fell in the middle of the sky.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I can even go down and Son Black Hole Son by soundgarden.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is talked about someone in my exact position.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The return of this snake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to end things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know the snakes have been bastardized and turned into the enemy, you know, the saying they're all like a snake in the grass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, traditionally, the snake was here to bring liberation and knowledge and free humanity from the Demiurgic construct where we're supposed to be ignorant and treated as pets almost.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, black hole suns definitely, I think the only song I recognized, no, no slight to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just not the most interested in that type of music, but yeah, that song has never really made sense to me, and it could be that could be because I haven't had these really unique experiences
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[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned in the notes, you sent ahead of time, the cleapoth and the cabala with a blend of, of cosmic magic and L-H-P.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is all what you call anti-cosmic magic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this sort of what we're hearing here where it's kind of like embracing the knowledge
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[SPEAKER_01]: true inheritance that the snake represents as conscious spiritual beings here on earth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is kind of, would that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that make any sense like this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this anti cosmic magic?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where does that kind of fit in?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, you know, so the the cliff is the reverse side of the tree of life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the tree of death.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's when you descend down instead of ascending up into.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you reach the same place which is nosis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All the stuff that I've embraced and used and discovered was part of my story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It all boils down, like I said, left-hand path.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Samayal is the archangel of death.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His name is, it means the poison of God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was kind of fitting that I threw myself into this using literal poison, trying to get eye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and do you care to mention what what substance you were taking is that something I actually better mean.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so you had basically like a real deep dive with the
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's an element to the infedemines that maybe like, sped up this connection that was dormant, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you had, because we don't want to necessarily, you know, endorse hard drugs, but it sounds to me like there's sort of a sort of connection here where, yeah, like the, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: the infedemines, whether it was intentional or not or perceived, like I wonder how often something like that can occur, or if you're just like, you know, like you're kind of illustrating here, this is your destiny and whatever was blocking you was freed up through this drug experience, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... methamphetamine overdrives all of your senses uh... messenger energy and they're just complete overdrive and uh... and that's what allowed me to kind of shine outside of my physical barrier a little bit more how to you know through the threshold and uh...
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that like the dusk that I had said that whatever it was, that was attracted to me when I would enter into those states so that I became a beacon and something was there to seek me out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I know that it's a, I've heard people describe the methods being the toughest
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and you know what, I'm going to agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it has an interesting origin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we, if you've looked into, um, you know, Nazi Germany.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the chemical warfare applications.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were testing and all the pharmaceutical warfare applications.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were testing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and then pair that with their obsessive, at least in the higher ranks, their obsessive interest in the occult, yeah, wouldn't it be surprised that they found something that can accelerate this sort of dark enlightenment as we'll call it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because, yeah, it doesn't sound to me like you're trying to sugarcoat this at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, it's the cleapoth, it's chaos magic, it's a dark thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in that sense, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is this good for?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, not to put you on the spot, but like, do you feel like maybe humanity's conceptions of darkness are incorrect, considering you're still living a life and not, I assume not harming anyone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing, oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe humanity would consider dark, like you're sort of, you're in the darkness,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the extreme of that right like what what use is there in the darkness for people who might be naive or innocent to that kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The goal is the same as what the other side of the light is you know or the right hand is trying to achieve, which is to bring society to a better place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My main focus is on what current two 18 or the temple of the black light was aiming to do, which is to dissolve and destroy the actual physical universe and basically send everything down
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[SPEAKER_00]: but it's not, I know from my perspective, I can plainly and clearly see that we're trapped here in the, you know, there's a couple of things I did to verify knowledge that I was learning and back in February of 2024, I was living in Michigan at a place I called the Garden of Weedon, and I,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a bunch of marijuana that I was growing for myself and I was listening to a podcast talking about sacred county bosom in the Bible and how it was removed and how there used to be marijuana in the Bible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because Chris Bennett's book, we've had Chris on the show and he's been on a bunch of other podcasts, but yeah, he's a great author.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've interviewed him and his research on biblical references to cannabis as far as I know, unchallenged.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's really gone to the umpteenth to show that there's no other plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not that we read.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like the the sort of biblical scholarly explanations just don't even really make sense to our modern understanding of psycho, you know, pharma, pharma psychology or however that's pronounced.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But either way, yeah, that's so okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry to cut you off again, but so you were kind of getting into the
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[SPEAKER_01]: spiritual or religious aspects of cannabis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard from that same author that cannabis is sort of like a saturnian plant that can kind of get you maybe more focused on, let's call it the physical realm like people who smoke cannabis often don't even remember their dreams or participate much in their dreams that if any,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it does, it does have sit-turning in vibes to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also one of the few dialacious plants where there's a male and a female, and that's pretty foreign for Earth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, on the other hand, look at the human properties of cannabis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have healed infected wounds with it before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen friends who were,
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[SPEAKER_00]: going through cancer treatments and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get a lot of their ability to enjoy their days back from the medicine I grew.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I knew it was medicine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I heard from the county laws and discussions at the archives really loved it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at this point in my belief and everything,
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[SPEAKER_00]: God was real, and then he was an archon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've heard a few different researchers say that the archons are plasma entities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so let me show my experience in February, 2024.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got home from my job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I worked overnight at Meyer, a grocery store in Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I had heard the podcast and then I've gone and listened to a few more about kind of awesome and I'm like, wow, okay, I live at the Garden of Weedon and at this point in my growing technique, like, I would clear my mind and meditate and then work on my plants while in like a meditative state.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was growing them in prayer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's now, you know, like a sacred thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I rolled up a joint and I went into my backyard and I'm sitting on the tree swing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I spoke out loud and offered the cannabis as an offering for courtship with the gods.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as soon as I got done speaking that,
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[SPEAKER_00]: one of the things that allows me to also be cosmic is I have the ability to sort of manipulate gravity and project it as almost like a force I mean it's a negative force it's the
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[SPEAKER_00]: pushing down on me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was really cloudy that morning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The sky was just covered in a thick blanket of clouds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all of a sudden, a beam of golden light burst through the clouds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it formed a geometric goes like a diamond shaped almost, I'm sorry, grab my phone out of my pocket and I set recording it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like I zoomed in and there's,
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[SPEAKER_00]: a beam made of like standing on top of it, and it kind of punched a hole through the clouds, and then more stuff started coming in, and it was all this radiant, wispy golden glowing energy, sounds like plasma to me, but it,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was interesting, because I was taking pictures and I believe that I saw like Ashera, which is Yahweh's wife, she's both like a cloud guy, and she's something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had specifically requested that Yahweh join me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I ended up being visited by all of those plus a practice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I knew it was a practice because there were two serpents coming down on the sky for the legs and then it was a chicken had a weird looking plasma thing with a sickle in one hand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And from my understanding of a practice sheet is kind of like the God of the God, she is the God that is all other ones or can represent them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like two months later, I was listening to a song and summoned the serpent op-eth from the Egyptian pantheon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he circled the moon like he does in the lore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, I got pictures because I wouldn't lie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so I was able to verify that
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[SPEAKER_00]: At least to me, you know, this is good enough and this is good enough of an experience for me to form a solid belief that, yeah, it's okay, our kinds are real, they are plasma and like sure they are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, these things always come out of the sun for me, and the sun is portal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's protecting energy, but I can also tie in an extra thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: LoLita Corole helped me realize this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She went back and looked at the solar dynamics observatory data for
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[SPEAKER_00]: the dates on all these events that I've had with my Canon events and there's always like an x-class solar flare and the x-class solar flare and February matched like the
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[SPEAKER_00]: STO caught a burst of light coming out of it that was the same shape as the entity that came through before a breakfast did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I look aside by side picture of the plasma entity in the sky above the garden of Weedon and then the solar dynamics of the territories picture of the
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know I'm cosmic because I've triggered so many of these solar flares in like I'll I'll be outside and I'll be doing cosmic magic work and I'll know that I triggered at least something and every single time yeah we didn't move
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[SPEAKER_00]: back to my hometown of Rochester, New York, from the Garden of Weedon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to drive underneath that Aurora display in May of 2024.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I literally drove my U-Haul underneath it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I have a photograph of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I remember seeing like pink and orange, just lights and sky and yeah, that was a really interesting day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you were driving your truck underneath that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and let me ask you before you continue, because you mentioned taking photographs, and I found this part to be the most fascinating, and I really wanted to talk to you about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You use the word photo-graphica.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that, definitely going to be in the title of the episode, but how would you explain that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we've done a ton of episodes on this show concerning photography and spiritualism and I have no doubts that it's possible to capture plasma on film, you know, the nature of photography was sort of metaphysical from the beginning, like the way they discovered, the science of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I really, you know, I think you're spot on, but I would love to know, you know, from your experience, like, how do you make sense of this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think, because I can't imagine, you know, like, at first you, you must have had some sort of feeling of disbelief, at least I would, but yeah, how do you, how do you make sense of this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: First place is Rochester New York, which is the home of Eastman Kodak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My grandmother worked for Eastman Kodak company and retired from it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She got me in a photography when I was a child, and she made sure I had digital camera from Kodak all the way through my school and everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yet, that no, you take photographs and images with a camera and,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's right there in the second word, eye mages, which magic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Back in the early days, it was all like silver and all sorts of different chemical reactions that would take place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like I've been to the Eastman Codec home in the museum and everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like in the way he discovered those processes and everything and he was inspired by something from the other side and interestingly enough to so in my I think it's the fourth house in my strategy chart which is like related to your family and what not there's an asteroid
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, ties in perfectly with the fact that my grandmother worked for Code Ackon here I am doing that with a photography and I know from experience to that like it's a spiritual gift for me because I don't go out and plan where I'm going to go take the picture to anything I just.
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[SPEAKER_00]: walk out the door with my phone, but you should have a real camera, but I just walk out the door and I will get in my car where you start walking and I will go to wherever I need to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Take the shots I need to take and then go home and be like, oh wow look what I got.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it has to be a spiritual thing because I'm not planning it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm a really good at composing shots, and I'm a really good at I've gotten a lot of excellent shots, not only the sky, but everything else around the world or in the world around me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I know it's a spiritual gift, and it's one of those things that if I don't think about it, I can pull us successfully.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now out of all the photographs you've taken, which are you most proud of or what do you think is like your most interesting one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I was at work here in New York.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was in 2024.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just moved back to Rochester.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was going to say,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was working at this place called Country Max, which is like a tractor supply store, but a local one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was in the warehouse and started raining really hard and I had been telling one of my coworkers a little bit about my path and how I didn't know a lot of it but I had a really cool stuff going on around the other time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And within like 30 seconds it went from pouring rain
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[SPEAKER_00]: First thing we spotted this rainbow starting to pierce through the clouds, and the rainbow hit the ground and skate there and got brighter and brighter as all of the other clouds burned off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so there's this beautiful rainbow right there in front of us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I took a few pictures of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a few days later, I looked at them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a bunch of dragon servants flying across a sky.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And on the back of one of them is a figuring of a man, grass being a chest and the rainbow comes out of his chest and down to the ground.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like these things are, it's not parody or whatever, parodolia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I get actual structures and characters and themes that will show up in the sky.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I now have come to realize the answers a lot of the times are up there for me if I'm trying to figure something out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's always right there in front of my face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got another one too when I was coming back from visiting my family in 2025.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I accepted that I need to remember my name and that it was like who am I so Studying the music at this point and I had gotten Not my final clue before I realized that like I could call myself same male is Another angel's name and then angel is Gabriel and I had met two Gabriel's
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[SPEAKER_00]: Before I went down to see my family because my sister had just had little baby Gabriel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I met two Gabriel's before I left from New York and went down south.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then while I was holding my, my, my nephew sitting there and like a Gabriel, I'm like, that's an angel's name and it's a come across three times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's assigned to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I started looking into the other angels and archangels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: down at the bottom of the list of one of them was Samuel, and talked about how he's the severity of God as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the father of the left hand path.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the one who rides the serpent into the garden of Eden.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I'll just with the thought, man out of that, that was Samuel in some of the,
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[SPEAKER_00]: count, you know, the recounts of the story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so as I'm driving back up to New York from from down south, try to figure out who I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get up and write over my exit to actually get home is this beautiful cloud formation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I take pictures of it and it's got
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[SPEAKER_00]: an angel with a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, a sickle, he's holding, um, or shy throw it at the site, but basically the, the angel guests that we are all familiar with from, uh, popular culture and it, you know, from what we've been shown, uh, had was coming out of like a triangular hole in the ground, uh, and there were, like, a few dragons around that, and then the entire thing when you look at it,
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[SPEAKER_00]: and it whole is coming out of a dragon as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, there's been my two favorite ones, but there's, there's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've read about this sort of spiritual site, you know, monks and or shamans and this sort of thing, like it's not,
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[SPEAKER_01]: unheard of for people to see into, you know, what's conceivably right around us all the time, it's just most people's senses are dense to the point where, you know, they can only perceive what's attached or anchored in the physical realm, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So these things that are sort of above
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[SPEAKER_01]: although they're on the same plane, you know, if you're not tuned into that level, it's not something that's accessible to your senses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You might still be influenced by these entities.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as Eshen or just sort of like the influence of entities.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is something that astrology talks about when you go into a bird chart like you're describing at the beginning of our conversation, that's like a snapshot to bring photography into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: soul incarnates, wherever all the planets are, the sun, the moon, and the earth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like a signature, an energy signature.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it checks you through your incarnation, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for you to be on this level where, again, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it came through to you through what was essentially a poison, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you'd say this or the poison, but then with the help of healing plants like cannabis and maybe other other things, you know, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, you know what I assume, but you know, we're not stringing that stuff on this show either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it's just interesting to see how, you know, although there are these chemical poisons that can deteriorate, there's also these plants that, you know, my suspicion are
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[SPEAKER_01]: here to help us and to help grow our spiritual abilities, you know, not that cannabis can enlighten everyone in anyone, you know, it's a process.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like for me, I definitely felt
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[SPEAKER_01]: an awakening, and to your point about destiny and figuring out who you are, like, yeah, it's a lot of people are just so bogged down by their family, their life routine, you know, the sort of societal path that's been carved out for them, that they don't even get a chance to really
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[SPEAKER_01]: experience their spiritual life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So do you think in a way like being in that state of drug addiction, you know, it was almost like the same way a monk goes out and becomes an aesthetic and like takes, takes everything in his physical life and discards it and reaching for the spiritual
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe dangerous way that we can't recommend anybody, you achieve that, right?
53:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of a irony in there, but also a really beautiful thing, because it demonstrates the, I think, the unbreakable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: human soul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, how much hope there is for people who are in a position that you are in currently, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there could be people listening to this podcast right now who are are in the throws of an addiction of all different types.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's very fascinating to think that
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[SPEAKER_01]: the same way like a shaman in the past would go through like a ritual trauma, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like scars still happens and did you know what I mean, what I did that night was a ritual trauma.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am my own shaman known else would help me with this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had to yeah, put all that together and learn how to heal myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and that's the powerful thing, it's like you can do it yourself, like we are living in a time where so much has become available to us as knowledge seers and seekers that, you know, we can, we can attain a state of knowledge that might not have been accessible to people outside of the digital age, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is something that is kind of a part of this whole story too in some ways, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because like, you know, the camera wasn't around 500 years ago for your mistakes and seeers to take pictures, they had to draw things and illustrate things, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, there is like an added tech to this, and obviously, you know, our podcast that we're doing, the book that you published and all that is,
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[SPEAKER_01]: a part inherently of this digital acceleration that's going on.
55:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm someone who would like to see more positive in the world, more good, but we can't discard the negative.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, the shadow side, if you will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let me ask you within it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're in a remote duality, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have to have the opposite and the inversion of everything existing alongside it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the only way to stop the darkness is to leave the light as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and there's a lot, there's a lot to be, you know, considered with this.
56:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know how familiar you are with my show.
56:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't assume the guest listen to my show, but recently we had a great conversation about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the Iran-Chia book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've had this book for many years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm by no means a proponent of it, but it's my habit on the podcast to, you know, sort of keep the recent episode topics in mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's synchronistic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's always, yeah, connections, you know, and
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess if you haven't read the book, it's not worth going into too far, but if you have, I'd like to know, because it is interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It offers a different perspective on what we would call narcissism.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I grow up Catholic just like you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not my perspective.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, to some degree, I think Christianity has truth, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm curious, like, yeah, have you read your answer just quick?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes or no?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I have it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you haven't, it's no big deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think there's a side of it where, you know, narcissism,
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[SPEAKER_01]: has a couple different interpretations.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I guess what I'm trying to say is the Iran-Chia book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: offers a different perspective on narcissism.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's your perspective on narcissism?
57:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my question because you talk about nostic chaosively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a cool portman too that I've never seen before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, how does one act as a nostic chaosively magician?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what would you say some of the main
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so Nostic Chaos fee, that's current 2018 or the Temple of the Black Light.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I learned the most about it from an album by a band called Dice Section, and the album's name is Rain Chaos, R-E-I-N-K-O-S, and it goes through and talks about
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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's one of the most powerful ritual pieces of music in my opinion, and it has an interesting backstory involved in the ritual murder of a gay man in a park in Sweden.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that the lead singer participated and he was found to be an accomplice that sent him some to six years in prison and he got out, reformed to the band, broke rain chaos, released it, and then ended his life in a pentagram of burning candles, clutching the, uh, the MLO misled
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he never toured or anything with the album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now that they just released it and his work was done, but the album goes through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the songs is called Beyond the Horizon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I first heard that song, it really hit me because I can remember back in 2019, I think it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could see my event horizon, it was cutting it like a line in the sky directly above me and it would move with me and that's one of those things that I checked off on my list of what am I while trying to figure out this all out, but that when the sun talked about beyond the event horizon, lies the portal of my dreams or yeah, I
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[SPEAKER_00]: really started paying attention to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the other songs that we're talking about, basically a chaos wizard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I knew that I had been a chaos wizard for
1:00:56
[SPEAKER_00]: was able to access more of, like, the Clifeth and Chaos to be through the music, but the whole tenant with Chaos free is that we are trapped in a demi-erge construct, and that we need to escape.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to go back home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to get out of here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not supposed to be here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This place is an illusion in a reality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything is an illusion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And chaos fee, not so chaos fee, basically calls upon the gods of old, mainly from, but from everything sort of, the Sumerian gods, the Kabbala and the Jewish mysticism.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it calls upon the 11 headed dragon entity known as the Azirate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which is basically 11, 10, 10 of these chaos guides, Samuel, Nama, there's just a Belphagore, there's another one of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: combines them together to form this 11-edic drag and that can go through and destroy the 10 spheres of the Sephiroth of the Kabbalah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And doing that, it causes the auroborus to completely consume itself and existence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I knew that as I was going through learning about these systems, I'm like, well, I've seen all this stuff in the sky, I can believe it is that's true.
1:02:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that I'm working magic, so this stuff is obviously real.
1:03:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And it seems to me like a lot of Swedish metal is talking about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: practitioner, working this current, and encouraging them, tells, you know, so I've lost support out there for it.
1:03:21
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that's KSPN in a nutshell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you go read about any of these organizations, like the Temple of the Black Light, Ms. Amthirapick, Luciferian Order, they aren't the nationalists' skinheads that people think of when they talk about the occult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They wanted to end existence for a compassionate reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone we love is trapped here, held against their will and harvested for energy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, if I knew my mom was being used as a source of feeding for something, I wouldn't want that to happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, my bowl, I don't know, sounds to me like the right thing to do.
1:04:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Would you let me let me offer you some pushback here because I think, you know, some people might be listening to this and thinking, oh, this guy, you know, he says he wants everyone to die, right?
1:04:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, you know, from from a average normal perspective, that is, you know, the worst thing that can happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: right like I'm truly evil for it right yeah like there's like this this humor in it because it's like you know you you are intellectually you know this idea has compassion to it I can see that you know but I can also see where you know the average person would you know think of this and think it's the most destructive
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, aspect of humanity, these are bad people, yada yada et cetera, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So in practice, what does this look like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, it doesn't sound like this guy in the Swedish metal band, you know, that it's not exactly a role model to the sister that we're living in, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, taking your own life, taking other people's lives.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is bad stuff, you know, and I can sit in, you know, both sort of seats intellectually and see where the nostic perspective is this, you know, compassion and whatnot.
1:05:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But where does it stop?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like because
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, does it then become uncompassionate to make these decisions for other people, right?
1:05:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you having this enlightenment, great.
1:05:56
[SPEAKER_01]: You've achieved that, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can see where, you know, someone would have compassion in that sense and say, all right, I'm going to take myself out of this whole equation, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it doesn't really, I guess, where I'm getting at is like, how do you aside from taking your own life, participate in this sort of philosophy, right, without harming others?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it does sound like there's a sort of implication that everyone needs to die, and that's the, the, the nostic perspective on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But for these people who are,
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[SPEAKER_01]: trapped, if they don't know their trapped, you know, what's more is it not an imperative to maybe enlighten them or awaken them, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, where is the language among them?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, I know, like, I use TikTok a lot because I, there's something magic about it and I've been able to get a lot of channel messages through it and everything and find
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[SPEAKER_00]: other spiritual practitioners who I can vibe with, and there's a lot of people who talk about the same thing, you know, we have to end the DemiRage construct, because it's just through and through false, and it's a, you know, it's a simulate chroma reality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: best way that you can get people on board with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, it's the only way you can really get people on board with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so like I think having proof of that is quite important for a lot of people takes it from, you know, just being something, an interesting concept to turn it into something that can believe in, and what we've been doing in London, we've been so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's kind of where the catch-22 lies in the senses like until you, you know, pass that threshold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've interviewed people who've had near-death experiences.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of...
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a lot of death for two times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I don't doubt that, you know, I mean, is he Griffin, I guess, who I had on recently, he had a really terrible experience with alcohol addiction that caused the near-death experience, you know, like this is something that happens to people who, you know, again, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: it's compelling, but until I, and I'm not wishing this upon myself, you know, but until I experience it, it's hard for me to take that leap, you know, seeing is, is believing, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, that's the, that's the catch-22 I think with this is like, yeah, you can't,
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[SPEAKER_01]: can't go and make this decision for other people because, I mean, on a spiritual level that that is wrong, whether we're in a demi-earge contract or not, like there's a certain level of like the golden rule applies to all the, you know, it's like, you sort of have to treat others how you'd want to be treated, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder, you know, with all this stuff, are these guys just misunderstood?
1:09:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Because, again, you name some of these groups that sound, you know, very dark.
1:09:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You name some of these bands that their lyrics are very dark and even the events that they've taken.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean the guy that you referenced earlier like this he lived the music he didn't just make music Like he he clearly put his whole life into that album that you described as like what you said It was a masterpiece of a ritual music and that's fascinating to me, but I'm like, you know
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[SPEAKER_01]: Until you take that upon yourself, there really is no, you can't put that burden on other people.
1:10:12
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and that's kind of the magic of synchronicity is like, when you start to understand these things, you find the other people who understand these things, and it takes you out of that sort of,
1:10:26
[SPEAKER_01]: a role of, well, what this podcast is named after.
1:10:30
[SPEAKER_01]: My family thinks I'm crazy like you know, I'm just certainly choose your family, right?
1:10:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So oftentimes those are the people who question you the most, you know, it's like they really have a hard time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: going with it.
1:10:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, like, I'm totally with you, like, I don't want my family to suffer either.
1:10:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I could see how their mindset creates suffering too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and it's definitely, it's tough to enlighten the people that are close to you.
1:11:02
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so I guess my question to you is like, what do you recommend?
1:11:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, doesn't necessarily have to be advice for other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: nasty chaos of the practitioners.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could be for just anybody who wants to seek enlightenment and bring that state of enlightenment to others.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like how do you convey this really deep stuff to people who, you know, for worse or for better, just aren't interested or haven't found it yet?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: YouTube and social media TikTok are great places.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing you have to do is state your desire to know this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the way the universe works is, it turns it's a funnel basically, and it will put all this information in your lap one way or another.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have to hold the
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I will say with that too, be careful because once you know you can't unknow and there's a lot of people who who are feeding the narcissism and they end up with this existential dread of what do we do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What can we do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And everyone says the answer to that is
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can refuse to re-incarnate when you're staying there in front of, uh, the Demi region his friends, and they're doing a life review and all of that, um, and I remember mine from my motorcycle record, I remember dying and going through that process.
1:12:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, if you want to, and you hold that true with your heart, you'll end up with it, especially in today's
1:13:01
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... struggle for the information is much and uh... i think if you want if you want to know what's really going on here and you start looking into it uh... usually not everyone has a greatest intuition but it's a skill that can be learned and uh... the spirit will sharpen it and make it you know
1:13:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that that was one of the things I struggled with was like, how do I learn all this information?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because now I'm a five believe in flat earth.
1:13:38
[SPEAKER_00]: We're on a flat plane between two troridal energy fields.
1:13:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe in space anymore, I don't believe in a lot of science anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And look, I really used to be into those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's another thing I'd caution about is the death of everything that you love once you start knowing things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: really believe in them and understanding but I know not everyone has the ability to do this but there are term dialectical thinker and that is someone who can hold two very opposing truths at the same time and believe in both and if you can do that you can definitely achieve
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[SPEAKER_00]: the truth and what's really going on and pull back the curtains.
1:14:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that my rupture basically turned me into the broken bell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can take these pictures because I am standing from a forced perspective of, you know, the path I'm walking.
1:14:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: If anyone has, if anyone's got you know, well, there are kinds of reals of God, it's God real.
1:15:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Go out and figure out a way to verify it, you know, can't imagine, yeah, legal everywhere, so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for the most part, and I'll tell you what, I mean, over the past, it's almost,
1:15:23
[SPEAKER_01]: 14, 15 years now I've been smoking weed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean it's definitely, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: become apparent to me that there's more than just what we see with our eyes and sense with our five senses, you know, not that I've had as deep of experiences as you have, I mean, this rupture to rapture, I think, is absolutely fascinating.
1:15:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, man, let me ask you this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the photos that you're referring to, those are in your book, right?
1:15:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
1:15:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's that's the best way for people to see those photos I'd imagine.
1:16:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And I got to get myself a copy of this book and have you back on, you know, because a lot of times, especially lately, you know, my life's been sort of chaotic, and a lot of times with the show, I'll just sort of,
1:16:18
[SPEAKER_01]: take things on the chin and go and blind, you know, and do my best as an interviewer to talk, you know, and make the most of what information I get from you, but I also really like doing my research ahead of time and, you know, figuring out
1:16:39
[SPEAKER_01]: What exactly we should talk about and I didn't do my due diligence this time this life's been Super busy as my audience probably is noticed if they're even still there.
1:16:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Hello five listeners But anyways, I'm thinking we have you back on in a month or so and In that time I'll certainly have the chance to get your book and
1:17:06
[SPEAKER_01]: and read it and take a look at these photos myself.
1:17:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But I've encouraged the audience to pick up a copy, especially if they want to see what you're talking about with these photos.
1:17:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, really interesting stuff.
1:17:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So as we sort of wrap up here, when it comes to
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[SPEAKER_01]: an autobiographical book of details, you know, based on your experiences and whatnot.
1:17:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And, but what I call it, my grim memoir.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's kind of, that was kind of going to be my question like for the listeners who are curious to try this kind of stuff or see where they can, you know, bring some chaos magic in their life.
1:17:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Like do you, you have something like that, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's a sort of, um, you call it necromantic spell book or, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: the soundtrack of the apocalypse.
1:18:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Is there music that goes with this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it music that's in the book?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or is it like something people can listen to along with the reading?
1:18:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just described the music and list a lot of it in the book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so like the songs that we're talking about through conversation people will have those references there and they can You listen alongside of the book.
1:18:35
[SPEAKER_01]: See that's okay.
1:18:36
[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like to listen to music when I read occasionally anyways, so
1:18:42
[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have the, you know, the examples there for people to, to dive in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:18:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:18:50
[SPEAKER_01]: There's, there's definitely power and music.
1:18:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just listening to conversation with Chris Null's today about Elizabeth Frazier and how her, um,
1:19:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Her voice is almost like layered, like there's another entity singing with them, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's something to this for sure.
1:19:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Usually it's not a human adventure, it would not exist without the stars and the angels bringing it to us.
1:19:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, as we wrap up here, Samuel, what are your final thoughts anything you want to leave the audience with
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I would encourage anyone who has, uh, had any resonance with what we've been discussing to state their intentions out loud and and take it seriously.
1:19:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, things are, um, coming never closer to, uh, the spirit in which they end and at some point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of our masks come off and we have to face the truth at that moment, but if you prepare yourself for it, it won't hurt as bad, I can probably won't hurt at all.
1:20:16
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, thank you again for joining me.
1:20:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I will include all the links that you send me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You prefer people by the book for a certain place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Amazon.
1:20:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the only about one Amazon right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I self-published it because I've done everything myself for this.
1:20:35
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
1:20:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'll include that link and anything else you want to send me and catch you on the next episode.
1:20:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely within a month or so, my schedule is going to become a lot more freed up and a lot more time focused on the podcast.
1:20:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So we will reconnect maybe mid-October.
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[SPEAKER_01]: gotten a copy of your book and we'll work that out and figure out a date that works for both of us and sit down and record, talk about your book, some more and all this stuff which really fascinating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you again, brother.
1:21:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I thank you for having me listening.
1:21:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, of course, everyone listening, here we are in the remote studio wherever we are in the now that's how we're going to be doing the podcast and now that I have the podcast equipment sort of free from the chains of my desk.
1:21:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be taking it on the road with me and interviewing people in person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So.
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[SPEAKER_01]: look forward to that.
1:21:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm finally just I'm just doing it.
1:21:56
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna it's it might be chaos at first, but we're just doing it.
1:22:00
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think of that brother?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds great.
1:22:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, well, you're in Rochester.
1:22:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, hey, if we, if I make it out to upstate New York, which I'm known to do, maybe we'll meet up and do a podcast in person.
1:22:16
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, thank you all for listening and we'll catch you guys on the next episode until then immerse yourself in the moment wherever you are in the now.
1:22:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's that folks.
1:22:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for tuning into this episode of The My Family Thinks from Crazy Podcast and we'll be back with more new episodes this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Until then, merge yourself in the moment or ever you are in the know.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.