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Minisode: Speaking Truth to Power with Rebecca Corry · Dear Chelsea

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  Speaker 1: Okay, guys, here are my dates for the High and
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  Speaker 1: out my tour in Denver and Vancouver. So get your
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  Speaker 2: Today's guest is Rebecca Corey. Rebecca is a comic actress, writer,
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  Speaker 2: and advocate. She's the founder of the Stand Up for
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  Speaker 2: Pitts Foundation, a nonprofit dedicated to educating, advocating, and saving
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  Speaker 2: the lives of pitbull type dogs. She's also one of
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  Speaker 2: the women who spoke out against Luisak in twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 3: But so, how did you two get reconnected?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I'll tell you.
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  Speaker 5: Why don't you tell the story? Yeah? Tell the story.
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  Speaker 4: Well, first I tell you I'm really proud of you, Chelsea,
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  Speaker 4: because I have to tell you, like, I'm not easy.
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  Speaker 5: I know that that's okay, okay, And.
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  Speaker 4: I'm older than you. I'm a senior too, I'm fifty
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  Speaker 4: five years old. So I have lost all patients for
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  Speaker 4: humanity and everything they stand for.
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  Speaker 1: What do you why do you say you're so you're
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  Speaker 1: not easy? Why do you say that? Well, historically, Sai,
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  Speaker 1: I said, I know, because I know that's what you
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  Speaker 1: think of yourself, and you've said that. I watched your
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  Speaker 1: documentary and you did watch my documentary, Yeah, Saving Jones.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah it was really it was.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, there were parts of it that I had to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, look away because I can't very sensitive with
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  Speaker 1: animals as you are, as well as many of us are.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, of course, yes, I wanted to prepare and
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  Speaker 1: and understand what you've been up to during this whole
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  Speaker 1: time because I knew you years ago doing stand up.
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  Speaker 5: We should stand up together. Twenty twenty five years ago.
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  Speaker 4: I moved here in ninety nine. I actually, I think
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  Speaker 4: the first time I ever did stand up was and
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  Speaker 4: I auditioned for the New Faces for the Montreal Comedy Festival,
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  Speaker 4: and I actually went me and Kevin Hart were in
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  Speaker 4: there were in new faces together.
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  Speaker 5: Were you were you taller than him? Then?
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  Speaker 4: At that he is approximately about a quarter inch taller. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: but if I had to take him, you know you could,
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  Speaker 4: I could.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he could easily be taken by a woman.
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  Speaker 1: And nobody can dispute that.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 4: So then after that two thousand and one, I did
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  Speaker 4: stand up and then yes, you and I did several
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  Speaker 4: shows together at the improv. Yeah. Yeah. But then and
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  Speaker 4: and you know, then, you know, I did the stuff
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  Speaker 4: I did the career, did the did the stuff. And
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  Speaker 4: then then a you know, dog came into my life.
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  Speaker 3: And and Angel was the dog that sort of like
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  Speaker 3: changed the trajectory.
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  Speaker 4: And right, is that the dog on the shirt?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, tell us a little bit about that.
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  Speaker 4: She came into my life. And then I started learning
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  Speaker 4: about how they're so discriminated against and how everyone fears
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  Speaker 4: them people, yes, piple tip dogs, and and I just
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  Speaker 4: could not belie leave that people were so horrified by
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  Speaker 4: them and so willing to hate them and want them
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  Speaker 4: all dead and to victimize them. And they're the most
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  Speaker 4: abused and tortured dogs on the planet, and like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: eighty five percent of them are like, you know, make
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  Speaker 4: up what's in shelters, and so I just couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'd be walking down the street, people be
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  Speaker 4: bolting to the other side and like, you know, saying,
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  Speaker 4: I hope that dog kills you, like crazy stuff, where
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  Speaker 4: I was like, this is crazy, what it's happening? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: And she was just nothing but love, you know. She
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  Speaker 4: was just born inherently good and changed everything. And then
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  Speaker 4: I when I realized like how voiceless they were and
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  Speaker 4: how victimized they were and how mistreated they were, I
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  Speaker 4: just was like it was just knowledge. Once I had,
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  Speaker 4: I was like I can never I cannot just move along.
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  Speaker 4: I have to do something. And so then I, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I started doing live events before I became a charity.
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  Speaker 4: I never wanted to become a charity, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: just in biting my stand up comedy friends to perform,
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  Speaker 4: and it became bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger
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  Speaker 4: and bigger. And then I organized a march on Washington
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  Speaker 4: and that was amazing and just it really just solidified
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  Speaker 4: that that's what I need to be doing. So after
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  Speaker 4: about six years, I just chose, like, you know, is
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  Speaker 4: this something that I really want to do for my life?
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  Speaker 5: Or would just run a charity.
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  Speaker 4: And do this my job? This is my job?
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  Speaker 5: Wow?
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  Speaker 4: Or do I want to you know, and earn in
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  Speaker 4: a year what sometimes it would take me a week
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  Speaker 4: to earn? Choose that life? Do I want to choose
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  Speaker 4: that life? Or what do I want to do? And
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  Speaker 4: that's what I chose?
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  Speaker 5: Wow?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it sucks.
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  Speaker 1: So when you say you're a lot, why do you
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  Speaker 1: say that? When you say you're not easy? Why do
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  Speaker 1: you say that? I say that when I'm dating in person,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, I'm a lot.
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  Speaker 5: So you might not be able to handle this.
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  Speaker 4: I could see that, Yeah, I'm a lot because I
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  Speaker 4: really really really really really don't give a fuck, and
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  Speaker 4: I really really will say and do what I feel,
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  Speaker 4: even if I know that there is severe professional or
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  Speaker 4: personal consequences.
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  Speaker 5: I will.
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  Speaker 4: And So when you and I were having our banter online,
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  Speaker 4: the reason that I said that to you was because
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  Speaker 4: I had posted a comment on your page. My comment
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  Speaker 4: was restricted on your page, and I was like, unrestrict
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  Speaker 4: the comment.
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  Speaker 1: I want people to see the comment restricted. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: even know how to restrict something.
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  Speaker 4: That someone must have, and it wasn't rude. I don't
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  Speaker 4: even think I said.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, because that's weird and it wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: like I have so many negative comments on my.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I was so frustrated. Was like, that's not
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  Speaker 4: like her to do that. So anyways, that's how our
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  Speaker 4: banter started. But then it was later where I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I posted the Luis y k right right, right right
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  Speaker 4: the thing, and that enrages me. That enrages me to
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  Speaker 4: this day because there's so much about that that is
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  Speaker 4: so insane that people don't know, not even a clue,
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  Speaker 4: Like they don't even have a clue. So what angers
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  Speaker 4: me about it is that it's just like this narrative
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  Speaker 4: that there was this power being wielded over me. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not speaking for the other women. I'm speaking for me.
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  Speaker 4: There was this power, you know, this power that was
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  Speaker 4: wielded and that we succumb to it because of the power.
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  Speaker 4: It's not the case, and in my case, I'm speaking
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  Speaker 4: for me, that was not the case. I was a
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  Speaker 4: creator and a writer and a series regular on a
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  Speaker 4: television show that I sold with Courtney Cox a David Arquette,
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  Speaker 4: and he was a cast member that was hired for
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  Speaker 4: that day to shoot the pilot Luis c. K correct,
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  Speaker 4: But it was not. It was there was.
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  Speaker 5: No power dynamic from his.
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  Speaker 4: The only from his stamp from no, the only power
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  Speaker 4: dynamic would be I was his boss, essentially right. And
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  Speaker 4: every time the guy farts in a certain direction, like
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  Speaker 4: I am drug through hell like I am, just like constantly,
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  Speaker 4: it's drudged back up. You're an unfunny you know, cunt, midget,
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  Speaker 4: hack loser, you got paid? What'd you you need? Attention? Like,
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  Speaker 4: all of this stuff comes up and I'm drug through
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  Speaker 4: it over and over and it's just endless publicity about
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  Speaker 4: what he's doing. And he's entitled to do whatever the
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  Speaker 4: fuck he wants. He is, he can go do whatever
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  Speaker 4: he wants, and that's fine. It does not affect my
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  Speaker 4: life in any way, shape or form.
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  Speaker 1: So what bothers you about that narrative that makes it
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  Speaker 1: so much that it was a hielding power or wielding
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  Speaker 1: power for me?
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  Speaker 4: And again I say that because I don't ever want
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  Speaker 4: to speak on behalf of any of the other women
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  Speaker 4: I was, you know, I was. I sold a television
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  Speaker 4: show that was legitimate that he was hired to be
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  Speaker 4: on for a day, and he chose to do the
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  Speaker 4: behavior that he did, and I chose to not shut
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  Speaker 4: down production. I chose to keep going because everyone else
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  Speaker 4: was there working doing their job, and you know how
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  Speaker 4: hearted is to sell a show. I just chose to not
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  Speaker 4: do that. That was my choice. I was given the choice
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  Speaker 4: what I wanted to do in that moment, and I
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  Speaker 4: chose not to do it. I stand by that choice.
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  Speaker 4: But I just can't stand the narrative that it's just
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  Speaker 4: like I was this victim. It's just that when it's
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  Speaker 4: constantly said over and over and over in all of
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  Speaker 4: the press and on all of these huge podcasts with
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  Speaker 4: you know, all of his homies and stuff, and they're
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  Speaker 4: all just perpetuating this narrative that it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's just you know, it was just this thing and
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  Speaker 4: like no big deal, NBD, and like these bitches just
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  Speaker 4: you know, are climbers and they were weak and they
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  Speaker 4: just wanted something. It's like, that's not the case. That
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  Speaker 4: for me, that is not the case. I was just
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  Speaker 4: doing I was working on a television show, doing my job,
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  Speaker 4: and what happened. I was walking to set, I was
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  Speaker 4: I was miked, and I was walking to set to
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  Speaker 4: shoot my scene, and he walked up to me and
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  Speaker 4: asked if he could jerk off in front of me
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  Speaker 4: and in my dressing room, and I said, in the moment,
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  Speaker 4: I said, abs a fucking lutely, not your face out
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  Speaker 4: of my face. That's super fucked up. No, that's all
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  Speaker 4: it was. And and then production found out and shut
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  Speaker 4: it down, and we added a lot of long talk
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  Speaker 4: about it, and then they gave me the choice, like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, do you what do you want to do
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  Speaker 4: in this moment?
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  Speaker 1: You know, did you know him at all before that? No,
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  Speaker 1: like through comedy stand up.
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm very close with Dan and Julia, the other
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  Speaker 4: two women who had a different experience with him up
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  Speaker 4: in Aspen. They're they're they're in my documentary. You probably
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  Speaker 4: saw them. I wrote a piece about it during the
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  Speaker 4: whole thing that you know, it just puts you in
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  Speaker 4: a lose lose situation when someone does that to you,
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  Speaker 4: you are immediately involved in that realm and you can
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  Speaker 4: never get out, right, You are sucked into the vortex
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  Speaker 4: of that bullshit and you will never get out through
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  Speaker 4: no choice of your own. There is a hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: And also every guy like that will be like.
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  Speaker 5: Well, yes, mission, that's what they'll that's what they'll.
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  Speaker 1: Say, you know, hearing this or having heard and with me,
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  Speaker 1: he did, but I am not.
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  Speaker 4: The other women and other people have a lot of
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  Speaker 4: other stories and I but for me, he did, And
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  Speaker 4: in that moment, I was like, absolutely fucking not. It's disgusting.
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  Speaker 4: What the fuck imagine walking to say? It's just I
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  Speaker 4: and you know what, it's it's gone. You know, it
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  Speaker 4: was a long long time ago. And the reasons that
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  Speaker 4: I spoke were for a lot of reasons. People don't understand.
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  Speaker 4: They would never even comprehend why I did. I spoke
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  Speaker 4: when I spoke, but I did. I have my reasons,
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  Speaker 4: they're justified. I wouldn't change it.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about that? What your reasons are?
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you've already said that I never
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  Speaker 1: have said it. Do you want to say it? What
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  Speaker 1: are your reasons first speaking up?
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  Speaker 5: When you did?
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  Speaker 4: I was invited to the Jane Goodall premiere to see
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  Speaker 4: her documentary, which I love Jane Goodall and I've had
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  Speaker 4: the privilege of meeting her a few times, which is like, right,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, it's a good one. I
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  Speaker 4: was at her premiere and was doing the carpet and
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  Speaker 4: stuff like that. And at the time, there was another
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  Speaker 4: comedian who was being very outspoken about about Louis and
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  Speaker 4: his behaviors and stuff like that, and that person is
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  Speaker 4: a friend of mine and she was being very vocal
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  Speaker 4: about or whatever. But I just I, for you know,
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  Speaker 4: was doing what I had done for years, which is
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  Speaker 4: just ignore it, just move on and just keep it moving,
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  Speaker 4: like keep it moving. I did not have the experience
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  Speaker 4: as other people had, so for me, just wanted to
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  Speaker 4: keep it moving, right. So I went to this premiere
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  Speaker 4: and a person that is of you know, that is
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  Speaker 4: very close with him, was really really nasty to me,
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  Speaker 4: like humiliatingly nasty. And I thought, so, what was that
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  Speaker 4: all about? And why is that necessary? And it was
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  Speaker 4: in front of a bunch of people, a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: mutual people and stuff like that. It was very blatant,
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  Speaker 4: very obvious and really nasty. And I thought, well, I'm
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  Speaker 4: losing no matter what, whether I'm quiet or not, I'm losing.
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  Speaker 4: Like I'm fucked. I'm clearly on the radar, I'm clearly
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  Speaker 4: on some sort of list. So I'm here just trying
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  Speaker 4: to see, you know, meet Jane Goodall and see her documentary,
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  Speaker 4: support her work, and I'm being treated like shit by
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  Speaker 4: a complete asshole. So I went home that night and
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  Speaker 4: like I cried. I'm not a big crier. It takes
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  Speaker 4: a lot to get me to do that, but I
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  Speaker 4: cried and was like this is so fucked up, and
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  Speaker 4: like I'm just trying to like move on. I don't
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  Speaker 4: deserve that shit. I've not done anything, I've not said anything.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't my fault, like just like fucking leave me
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  Speaker 4: alone kind of thing. And so I told my friend
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  Speaker 4: friend who was being very vocal about everything, and I was,
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  Speaker 4: and I said, I'll go on record and I'll use
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  Speaker 4: my name, and she and I at that time, I
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  Speaker 4: was the only one. And she was like, you're going
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  Speaker 4: to use your name and I said yeah, because it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't matter. Doesn't fucking matter. I'm losing anyway, Like, don't
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  Speaker 4: say anything. I'm a piece of shit. Say something, I'm
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  Speaker 4: a piece of shit. It doesn't matter. So at the
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  Speaker 4: time I spoke to New York Times and and they
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  Speaker 4: were like, Okay, you're the only one. I was like,
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  Speaker 4: that's fine, and they I don't know what I'm allowed
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  Speaker 4: to say or not allowed to say, But I was
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  Speaker 4: the only one, and then as some time went on,
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  Speaker 4: then there was four other women. And that's it. I
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  Speaker 4: told my told my bit, told my told the truth,
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  Speaker 4: told the story Courtney David corroborated and others, and I
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  Speaker 4: stand by it. Like I said, I don't regret it,
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  Speaker 4: but it doesn't go away. And you know, it's the
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  Speaker 4: consequences of of that. And just when you and I
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  Speaker 4: going back to our post on communicating on Instagram, it's
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  Speaker 4: like it's just hearing a false narrative repeatedly for almost
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  Speaker 4: a decade. It's just fucking infuriating. And so when you
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  Speaker 4: were like, well, you know, how can I support you?
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  Speaker 4: Because literally, ultimately there was no support, zero support from
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  Speaker 4: the comedy community, zero support from women. I lost friends
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  Speaker 4: because of it. I you know, people distanced themselves. They're like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to be around you. You you called
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  Speaker 4: out one of the most powerful people in comedy, or
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  Speaker 4: you know you're done, you know you're out, You're done.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, and I'm gonna say something that might shock you.
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  Speaker 4: But the most support I got, when any support came,
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  Speaker 4: was from men. It was you know, John Mulaney, it
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  Speaker 4: was Pete Lee, it was Judah Friedlander, it was Mark Marin,
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  Speaker 4: Patton Oswald. People reached out and were cool guys. Women
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  Speaker 4: not so much. It was very much there was fake,
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  Speaker 4: fake women who were like Rob Rossis Kumbala and we
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  Speaker 4: put on my pink pussy hat and stand with you
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  Speaker 4: in the moment. But it wasn't It wasn't real. It
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  Speaker 4: wasn't real at all. And the next moment they got
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  Speaker 4: to be in the boys club, they went right right
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  Speaker 4: to it. They kissed the ring and do whatever they
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  Speaker 4: can't just And here's the thing too, I understand that
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  Speaker 4: it put everyone in a really bad situation. I understand that,
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  Speaker 4: so I kind of have grace for some people. But
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  Speaker 4: you asked me, you know, when I sat down, what
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  Speaker 4: is it that bothers you the most? It is the
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  Speaker 4: false narrative that I You know that we're all, all
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  Speaker 4: of the women who went on record, we all have separate,
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  Speaker 4: different stories. We are all different individual human beings. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know the other two women. I very much know
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  Speaker 4: Dan and Julia. They're very special to me. They're good
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  Speaker 4: friends to me. I don't know the other women. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, we we had our experiences. We handled it
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  Speaker 4: in the way that we handled it, but we shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: be lumped into one group like booo, the little you know,
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  Speaker 4: that's the part that enrages me. And it's just not
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  Speaker 4: anything I'm ever going to be able to get away from.
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  Speaker 4: Aside from that, everything's good and everything's good. So that's
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  Speaker 4: how we got to answer your question. That's how we
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  Speaker 4: started talking. And then Chelsea was like pulled up her
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  Speaker 4: big girl pants and said, what do you want me
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  Speaker 4: to do to support you? And I go have me
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  Speaker 4: on your podcast and she said, great, my people will
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  Speaker 4: reach out to you. And I just thought they will not.
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  Speaker 4: They will not, and they did, and you did look
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  Speaker 4: at us, like, look at us. We're gonna get low
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  Speaker 4: backed tats after this.
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  Speaker 5: Did you bring one over?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: I can't actually do tattoos a tattoo artist.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, you should see the one I have.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: I was back. Did you cover it up?
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Seriously?
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: Could you?
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: We'll talk about that lak yeah, but no. So thank you, Chelsea.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: I'm proud of.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: You, Like, oh well, I mean, I'm glad to hear
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: this all, even though it's unpleasant. I know it's unpleasant,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: but I'm glad for you to be able to talk
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: about it in this way and to create I what
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: you know, hopefully some distance from this and him and
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: not narrative.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Well, it's a bit concerning talking about it to you,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: because this will get you have a gazillion people who
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: pay attention to what you say and do, and this
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: will air and it will start all over. And I
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: had to shut my Twitter account down. I was getting
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: death threats for two years, people showing up at my
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: charity events telling me that they were going to rape
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: me to death, like crazy shit. Yeah, so it's a
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: double edged sword. I can talk to you about it.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: I am talking to you about it. I'm giving you
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: consent to talk about it. I don't really talk about
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: it that often, but it's what brought us together, so
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's worth talking about. But at the
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: same time, I'm fully aware of what this is going
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: to do, and it is not going to be cute.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: But everyone can fucking suck it.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: I don't care.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel that way about the world in general,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: you know, right now, I think a lot of women
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: have come to this conclusion.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: The collusion that gives a fuck, you know what I mean.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't have.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: To for everyone, and everyone's the tenor the way that
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: men are allowed to talk and treat women in this
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: country has gotten to such a place that I really
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: don't care about like pleasing them or making them happy.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: It's about making men aware, and we're not going to
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: do it on this podcast. There's not tons of straight
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: guys watching me, you know, either they I represent you
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: know what a lot of those guys from the manosphere hate,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: which is an independent woman, woman who doesn't isn't looking
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: for a man or doesn't need a man, and they
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: don't like that.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: But I think a lot of women, I know a
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: lot of women are just sick of it.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: We've all had it. It's just exhausting. And every time
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you meet a nice guy, you're like, oh my god,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: what a pleasure, and you're like over yeah, it's like
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: a good dad. You're like, oh my god, you're such
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: a good dad because you're with your kid right right,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: And you're like, oh my god, these guys you're getting
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: rewarded just for being not rapist or not disgusting.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like one of the easiest things in the world
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: to not do is jerk off at someone someone, But
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: it seems like one of them in a workplace. But
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: it just seems like, that's just such a task. And
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: I guess if one good thing has come out of
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: the past ten years of that experience, this is good
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: because I appreciate it, and I appreciate you taking the
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: time to do it, and also you know, taking the
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: time to watch my documentary and having a little bit
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: of an understanding about what I'm up against when it
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: comes to the city and like trying to end this.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Horrible crisis because you have a lawsuit against this Los Angeles.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Right, I have a lawsuit against everybody, all of the excellence. Yeah,
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: all of them.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: And tell me what is the like goal, purpose and
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: goal of Like if you could wave a magic want
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: to get your wish, what.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: Is the results?
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's a great question. Thank you, Thank you, Catherine.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: My dream would be like I started my charity sixteen
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: years ago, and I loved it because I was still
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: doing stand up when I was touring with my charity
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: and got to do all that still, but also but
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: doing it in a positive way was saving all these
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: dogs and everything. But in my brain, I was like, oh,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: this is not going to last long. I got this charity,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: You'll be around for like a few years and then
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: I'll have to shut it down because there's no need
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: for it. And then I can go back to, you know,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: if I'm hirable, you know, going back to trying to
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: have my career that I worked on, you know that
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I wanted and had, and it just turns out there's
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: no end in sight, and not even in my lifetime
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: will there be. But I'm a national charity but based
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: in Los Angeles. But my dream is that is that
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: animals in Los Angeles will stop being killed in no
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: kill shelters. They call the shelters no kill when they're
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: killing dogs every single day. Best Friends Animal Society calls
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: it no kill LA. It's their thing, and I don't
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: agree with it, because how can you call something How
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: can you call something no kill when killing is happening
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: every day. These are adoptable, lovable dogs. It's just batshit
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: And so I'm firmly against that, and I'm also firmly
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: against animals being I'm sorry, this is a real nose
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: dive into the dark, but just go. We'll go with there,
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: for I'll get us back out. I'll take us out.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: When dogs are being starved, infected, crammed in wire crates
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: they're given to them by La City Shelters and called support.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: It's insane, and it's all happening in plain sight, like
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: none of it is secret. This is all real life,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: like no one's making it up. It's not a theory.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: This is real life. So when I first found out
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: about this about three years yars ago, I'd lived here
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: for a very long time, and I'm ashamed to say
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I didn't really know what was going on on skid
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Row and all over the city. I didn't know, and
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: a lot of times it's easy to not know. So
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: when I found out about it, it was sort of
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: the Angel thing where I was like, holy shit, this
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: is insanity. This is and I'm a national organization, so
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I know what's going on around the country, but I
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: was like, holy crap, this is like the fourth largest economy,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: that one of the largest cities in the world. This
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: is a place of privilege and power, and animals are
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: enduring things that you cannot you cannot fathom, you cannot fathom,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: and so I thought, Nope, that's gonna be wrapped up.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: We're gonna wrap that up. So I started offering services
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: and resources and funding to span neuter piple type dogs
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: on skid row and brought people in from blood Sport
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: and all because they're fighting dogs and stuff from HSUS
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: that they're now Humane World for Animals, and they had
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: offered to do a sweep of the streets and pull
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: the dogs who were being abused. Because not all just
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: everyone knows, not all unhoused people abuse animals. There's many
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: unhoused people who love their animals and give them what
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: they need, just like not all people with houses abuse animals,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: but also people with houses abuse animals. So let's just
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: clear that up so that the comments aren't you're going
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: after home and we're not going after unhoused people. We
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: are going after animal abusers, and they're doing it in
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: plain sight. There's no excuse for it. So when I
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: found that out, I just thought, no, no, I cannot
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: live in this city. I cannot do what I do.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I cannot have the mission maturity has and know that
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: that's happening seven miles from my apartment. It's not happening.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: So I started doing I wasn't just crying and yelling
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: and posting, and I was offering solutions, bringing in outside resources,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: and they were all just like, suck it sideways, lady.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: We don't want to hear what you have to say.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: We're not doing anything. And that has been consistent from
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Karen Bass to City Council Nitya, to all of La
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Animal Services, to Stacy Danes, Brenda Barnett, all of the GMS,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: all of it. They have just literally been like, no,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: we don't care what you have to say, and we're
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: not solving it and we're not taking care of it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: So after I exhausted everything for three years, I've been
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: on every news show, done every interview, done everything I
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: could possibly do to try to help end this, I
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: decided that I would sue them all. And so I am.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: And it's a historical, unprecedented lawsuit, and I have a
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: really good legal team, Mark Garrigos and his firm, our attorneys,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: and we're fighting. We're still fighting and so on. The
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: goal is to get it through to court so then
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: we can get depositions and we can interview them and
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: they have to be held accountable for what they're allowing
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: to happen. And the dogs and the shelters are enduring
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: excruciating circumstances. Some dogs are not even getting out of
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: their kennels for six months, you know, what I mean,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: So I want this is all fixable stuff. I do
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: believe that it can be fixed.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Is there a place or a city that you know
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of where their system is a good beta test for
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: ours or like blueprint not.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: That's a great question. But not in America. Other countries. Yeah,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: there's always going to be psychos who abused animals and
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: do shitty things, but for the most part, they have
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: great responses and great outcomes, and they control their population
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: and they you know, it's a very A lot of
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: other countries have things great under control, and I know
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: we can do the same thing. In America not so much.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Right now, we're in a total state of emergency. Like honestly,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: and especially LA, we are in a severe crisis.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Let's tell people how they can help, what they can do.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: And we've got tons of animal lovers that listen to
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: this show, So what can people do to contribute? Where
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: can people see your documentary and yeah, people want to
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: help dogs. Let's figure out what we can do, Okay.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: And also put a link to your documentary in the
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: description for this episode too.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I have a documentary short and the feature length. Those
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: are both available at standard for Pitts dot US and
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: there's a link there to go to kinema dot com.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: It's where you can rent it for now. That's where
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: it's available. And then how people can help is if
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: you are able to foster a dog, just open your home,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: you know, become a foster for a reputable rescue and
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: open your home to try to adopt if you want
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: to help the situation, the crisis. Volunteers are always needed,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: shelter volunteers, and they're always desperately hurting, especially Lancaster, Palmdale,
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: not so much Palmdale, Lancaster that's a county shelter, not
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: a city shelter, but all the shelters, city and county
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: shelters desperately need volunteers. Donate if you can, but people don't.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: A lot of people don't have money. That's okay. You
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: can still help and be effective and make an impact
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: without having to donate. I always you know, I'm better
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: at asking for money as a charity, but I always am.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: I think what's more powerful is empowering people to do something.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: If I, as a dipshit comedian who's never had anything
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: to do with animal welfare, can accomplish what my charity
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: has been able to accomplish. Anyone can do it. You
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: just have to want to do it. So find what
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: pulls at your heart, whether it's volunteering, fostering, donating, dropping
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: off supplies to shelters, going down to skid row to
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: feed the dogs and give the dogs water when it's hot,
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: bring people it's dangerous, be careful. Whatever you can do
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: to help, even just one act to help one dog matters.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: So that's what I would say. There's no real real form,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: there's no real answer. It's just find out what is
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: important to you, what you want to see change, and
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: try to be a part of that change in whatever
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: way you can. It's really that simple.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I like that you're channeling your anger and rage
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: in this way.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Thank you. This is important what you're doing.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah, it's a lot of rage. I have
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: an enormous amount of rage.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of rage to be had, I understand.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but thank you. Yeah. There's nothing more powerful than
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: a pissed off woman.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: We get a lot done. Yeah.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: And my dream, just to answer your question fully, is
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: that it just stops. I want to shut my charity down.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I don't like this. I I honestly would love to
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: work at Trader Joe's and live in upstate New York.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: That's my dream. That's where I'm at. I'm probably gonna
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: die at sixty. I'm really hopeful. There's no wood. I'm
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: hoping that I do.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: There's wood right behind you.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I just I have small arms, Chelsea. I can't reach shit. Yeah,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: thank you.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: I couldn't even knock on the wood.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: No, it's fine, it's fine.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't mind doing a group euthanasia.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Do you?
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: Does that sound like something? Of course, they euthanize dogs.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: Why can't they euthanize us.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: It's kind of a conflict, actually, because we're talking about
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: not euthanizing dogs, and then we want to but we
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: get you because I'm kind of I feel like I
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: want to.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: Wrap things up soon, to.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Wrap it up. Okay, Well, when you're ready, let me
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: know and I'll go wherever you go.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: You might, I might be wrapping it up whatever you
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: want to happen.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: I see it happening for you. You do, because yes.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Because you are fueled by anger and rage and you're
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: going to accomplish something with this, even more than you
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: already have, like whether it's this lawsuit or you know,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: however that happens.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: I do see.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: You can't put this much effort into something and not
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: see a result.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: You just can't. It will happen. It just doesn't happen
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: whenever you want it to happen.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I really hope you're right.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: And I think we should get you back on stage two.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: It is doing sets, don't you think.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I like the load a little bit once once a week.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: So I love doing stand up so much, and I
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: feel like I have about nine in me. I have
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: an enormous amount of things to say and talk about.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: And but also I feel like, you know, no one cares,
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: but who cares?
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: Who cares?
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I just think it might give you a little slice
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: of sunshine.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: It would, you know? I mean it would, it would.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: It's definitely something that I miss and I love doing it.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: But I did two sets last night.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I did the improv and then I did the Comedy Store,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and I just feels did you love it?
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: I did?
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I feel it's it's not easy for me when I'm
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: here in La to like want to go out at night,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: because I like, I use LA as like a recovery place.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: And look at your home and that dog.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Would you ever I know the dog is hard to leave,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: really hard to leave. But anyway, I did go, and
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: it just is a moodlifter to go out and make
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: people laugh. So any yeah, we're gonna let's we'll focus
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: on getting you some spots around town. Whenever you want
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: to do it. We'll keep in touch and then yeah,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: we'll figure it out, get a.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Set together, Okay, then we get it up to talk
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: about everything.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: Yes, all the things. Yes, yes, exactly.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: And people can go to stand up for Pits dot
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: us correct all right, and it's pits with one T.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: I kept making that mistake.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: It is and you saw a bunch of q T
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: shirts too. People can support you by doing that.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Bye bye bye.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Yes with all of her different dogs on the T shirts.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: How many dogs do you have now?
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Currently? I have three? I have Todd, Glendon, Pippin.
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: Okay. I like the names. Also, they're a real deal. Yeah.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Well you met Doug, and Doug has a sister coming Denise.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she's in my Orca right now.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: How come he didn't come in for the show.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know where. Sometimes he might have had an
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: appointment today. I figured he has his own full schedule.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Sure, he seemed kind of busy.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: He has a friend next door. Sometimes he goes through
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the thing and sees her. Well, Rebecca, I'm so glad
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: you came. I'm so glad we reconnected. Me too, and
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: we'll see more of each other.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: All right, Chelsea, thank you so much for doing this
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: like you're You're a sweetheart.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: For appreciate pleasure. You deserve it.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 32:02
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