Latest / I Am All In with Scott Patterson / Luke’s Diner: Emma Hernan
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I am all in.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Again! More, more, more. I want to kiss you more.
- 0:07Speaker 1: More, more, more.
- 0:09Speaker 2: I want to kiss you more.
- 0:17Speaker 1: I am all in.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Again, with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Scott Patterson. I am all in. Podcast 111 Productions, iHeartRadio. iHeartMedia,
- 0:28Speaker 1: iHeart Podcast. We have a very special Luke's Diner episode
- 0:34Speaker 1: for you. Emma Hernan is joining us. She's an entrepreneur,
- 0:38Speaker 1: real estate TV star from the Netflix show Selling Sunset.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Emma.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Hello. Thank you for having me.
- 0:47Speaker 1: We're delighted to have you. I am looking at quite
- 0:51Speaker 1: a spectacular photo of you. holding up some Buffalo chicken.
- 0:58Speaker 1: You have a food line. There's all kinds of things
- 1:02Speaker 1: to get into here, but let's start at the beginning.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Before people knew you from selling Sunset, entrepreneurship was already
- 1:11Speaker 1: a huge part of your life. You're actually a third
- 1:13Speaker 1: generation food entrepreneur. What did growing up around your family's
- 1:18Speaker 1: food business teach you about running a company?
- 1:21Speaker 2: Oh, everything possible. You learn what's going to be very difficult,
- 1:25Speaker 2: what's going to be more fun. You learn about business
- 1:28Speaker 2: from a really young age. I mean, I grew up
- 1:30Speaker 2: literally in supermarkets, passing out crab cakes to people walking
- 1:34Speaker 2: down the aisle. So like, that's how I grew up.
- 1:37Speaker 2: I love cooking. I grew up cooking with my grandmother.
- 1:39Speaker 2: My grandfather was a chef. And that's actually why I'm
- 1:43Speaker 2: third generation from him because he left the company to
- 1:46Speaker 2: my mom. My mom took over and now I'm heavily involved.
- 1:50Speaker 2: And then I started my own company. So, but yes,
- 1:53Speaker 2: I know I, the food industry is in my blood
- 1:55Speaker 2: for sure.
- 1:56Speaker 1: Where'd you grow up? What part of the country?
- 1:59Speaker 2: Ah, yes.
- 2:00Speaker 1: My goodness. So you've described your, your food business as your,
- 2:06Speaker 1: your quote unquote baby, even though You also work in
- 2:10Speaker 1: real estate and investing. What is about foods specifically that
- 2:13Speaker 1: you're most passionate about?
- 2:15Speaker 2: I think food brings people together around, you know, the
- 2:18Speaker 2: kitchen table. It brings families together. I'm super family oriented.
- 2:22Speaker 2: My family is like my entire world. So for me,
- 2:25Speaker 2: holidays and different things like that. everyone was always brought
- 2:28Speaker 2: together around a meal. So for me, I love cooking.
- 2:32Speaker 2: I love creating meals. I love creating appetizers and fun
- 2:35Speaker 2: things that people are like, Ooh, I can't wait to
- 2:38Speaker 2: go over to Emma so I can try her crab
- 2:39Speaker 2: cakes or her shrimp spring rolls or her empanadas.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Oh, wow. You're, you're that friend. That's fantastic.
- 2:45Speaker 2: I'm definitely that friend.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Oh, that's, that's fantastic. All right. So your grandfather was
- 2:50Speaker 1: a chef. Did you always know you wanted to continue
- 2:54Speaker 1: that family legacy in your own particular way?
- 2:57Speaker 2: Oh, 100%. I always knew. I always knew. I loved
- 3:00Speaker 2: cooking from a very young age. So my grandfather was
- 3:04Speaker 2: a chef. He started cooking little crab cakes out of
- 3:07Speaker 2: his kitchen, selling them to the local markets, and everyone
- 3:11Speaker 2: fell in love. And then it skipped a generation with
- 3:14Speaker 2: my mom because she cannot cook. I definitely inherited his
- 3:19Speaker 2: skill set. And I just love it. I've loved it
- 3:22Speaker 2: my entire life. Every recipe that I have, so all
- 3:25Speaker 2: of my items that are in stores nationwide, I created
- 3:28Speaker 2: it down to the last spice.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Beautiful. Your grandfather is still represented in the food you're
- 3:34Speaker 1: creating today. Your new crab rangoon was inspired by the
- 3:39Speaker 1: crab and lobster spread. He would make your family a
- 3:42Speaker 1: special occasion. What do you remember about those meals with him?
- 3:46Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, it was just such a special time.
- 3:49Speaker 2: I also remember going down as soon as he you
- 3:52Speaker 2: know once he stopped making them out of his kitchen
- 3:54Speaker 2: and he got a little warehouse um you know we
- 3:57Speaker 2: used to go down there we were would play in
- 3:59Speaker 2: the warehouse and And then, you know, we were, he
- 4:02Speaker 2: really needed help at such a, and we were so young,
- 4:05Speaker 2: me and my brother and my cousins, we actually, we
- 4:08Speaker 2: were hand scooping crab cakes with, you know, the little
- 4:10Speaker 2: ice cream scooper that you scoop ice cream with.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Okay.
- 4:12Speaker 2: So that's what we were scooping crab cakes with. And
- 4:14Speaker 2: then for the dips, we were like making sure they
- 4:17Speaker 2: all went in the container and then we were dropping
- 4:19Speaker 2: them off at the supermarket. So it was just such
- 4:21Speaker 2: a really positive part of my childhood and something that
- 4:24Speaker 2: was so special.
- 4:26Speaker 1: So you, you absorbed all of those, you know, sort
- 4:30Speaker 1: of Really boring business, the business knowledge, the, you know,
- 4:34Speaker 1: managing inventory and costs and, you know, profit margins and
- 4:41Speaker 1: all that stuff, just absorbing it. So how old were
- 4:43Speaker 1: you when you really understood all that stuff?
- 4:47Speaker 2: I would say I definitely feel like I picked up
- 4:49Speaker 2: on the business a lot faster than, you know, certain people.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Won't name names.
- 4:55Speaker 2: It's family. It's a family. For me, business, like I
- 4:59Speaker 2: started investing at a really young age and that really
- 5:02Speaker 2: helped with, you know, me starting my food company and knowing, okay,
- 5:07Speaker 2: what's going to work with business? How much it's going
- 5:09Speaker 2: to cost to buy this piece of equipment? Should we
- 5:11Speaker 2: buy it? Should we lease it? Like there's so many different.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Right.
- 5:14Speaker 2: Of it. So I definitely started learning at a really
- 5:17Speaker 2: young age. And also too, I mean, my mom, you know,
- 5:20Speaker 2: when my grandfather passed away, she had to learn really
- 5:22Speaker 2: fast too. So she was an accountant. So that was great.
- 5:25Speaker 2: So she was really good with the business side of
- 5:26Speaker 2: it too. So me and my mom definitely are like this,
- 5:30Speaker 2: this power couple for sure.
- 5:31Speaker 1: So you were basically a food and investing prodigy.
- 5:38Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, for sure. That sounds great. I love
- 5:40Speaker 2: the sound of that. My parents would appreciate that for sure.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 5:44Speaker 2: All right.
- 5:44Speaker 1: So you launched Coast to Coast Kitchen at Target in February.
- 5:49Speaker 1: That must have been an amazing feeling. And in just
- 5:52Speaker 1: seven months, the brand generated millions in sales and brought
- 5:55Speaker 1: nearly 100,000 new shoppers into the frozen seafood category. What
- 6:00Speaker 1: was it like walking into Target, seeing your own products
- 6:03Speaker 1: in the freezer aisle?
- 6:05Speaker 2: Well, what's funny enough is that you can watch me
- 6:07Speaker 2: for the first time ever see it. We actually happened
- 6:09Speaker 2: to capture it. It wasn't that wasn't me acting. My
- 6:11Speaker 2: acting skills are awful. So you actually got to see
- 6:14Speaker 2: my real reaction. And I mean, it was so exciting.
- 6:17Speaker 2: It was so rewarding, too, because the amount of time
- 6:19Speaker 2: and work and effort that I put into this. You know,
- 6:22Speaker 2: people don't see that. They see the glitz and the glam,
- 6:24Speaker 2: the photos that, you know, are curated for Instagram. But
- 6:27Speaker 2: they really don't see the behind the scenes where I'm,
- 6:30Speaker 2: you know, covered in crab and cream cheese and I
- 6:33Speaker 2: have a red hairnet on and I'm not looking cute.
- 6:35Speaker 2: I'm trying to make this recipe perfect. So, you know,
- 6:38Speaker 2: when you walk into the store, you see all the
- 6:40Speaker 2: product out in the best possible place in Target. And
- 6:45Speaker 2: then you see your name on there. It's like created
- 6:48Speaker 2: by Emma Hernan. It's such a rewarding and special feeling,
- 6:51Speaker 2: something I can't really describe.
- 7:03Speaker 1: And now you have three new products, lobster empanadas, sweet
- 7:06Speaker 1: chili shrimp empanadas, and crab rangoo. Rangoon, sorry. How involved
- 7:13Speaker 1: are you personally in developing And well, I'm not even
- 7:17Speaker 1: going to ask you that question. I already know the answer. You're,
- 7:21Speaker 1: you're 100% involved, right? Yeah.
- 7:24Speaker 2: I mean, like when I say I'm involved, that's an
- 7:26Speaker 2: understatement because even for the photos for the boxes, they
- 7:30Speaker 2: were like, okay, we need to hire a food photographer.
- 7:33Speaker 2: We need to do a stylist and all that. I'm like,
- 7:35Speaker 2: oh no, no, no, no. Like we can have the
- 7:36Speaker 2: photographer come to the house, but I'm styling all that food.
- 7:39Speaker 2: So like this little pieces of cilantro, this is before
- 7:42Speaker 2: like AI. Now you can make a perfect box, but like,
- 7:45Speaker 2: I was doing these boxes where I was putting the
- 7:47Speaker 2: perfect piece of cilantro on the plate, making sure everything
- 7:51Speaker 2: looked absolutely perfect for photography.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Well, so so you are you have that level of
- 7:59Speaker 1: ownership and control that is so important to you. Right.
- 8:03Speaker 1: I mean, you you're you're you're the boss here. And
- 8:06Speaker 1: let's just let's just call it what it is.
- 8:08Speaker 2: I love that.
- 8:09Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 8:11Speaker 2: For sure.
- 8:11Speaker 1: Yeah. How many employees are there?
- 8:14Speaker 2: We have over a hundred employees. And then a really
- 8:18Speaker 2: cool fun fact is that I own my own manufacturing facility.
- 8:22Speaker 2: I actually bought the facility before I launched my company,
- 8:26Speaker 2: which is kind of the opposite way that typically people
- 8:28Speaker 2: do things. So, you know, a big thing too, people
- 8:32Speaker 2: come to me to Copac. So I don't just have
- 8:34Speaker 2: my company. Right. So Copac for other brands. And I
- 8:37Speaker 2: think that's a really good, you know, thing for people
- 8:40Speaker 2: to know because it's another stream of revenue.
- 8:42Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
- 8:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:44Speaker 1: You do the wholesale too. And the retail, it's exactly,
- 8:47Speaker 1: we do. Yeah. I have a coffee company. I switched
- 8:49Speaker 1: just purely to wholesale. It's just, it's a simple equation.
- 8:54Speaker 1: Thank you. Just, you know, margins are steady and I
- 8:57Speaker 1: love that part of it.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Funny enough. And we just, we just opened the doors.
- 9:03Speaker 2: Everything's cold. We have cold storage. We have everything. And
- 9:06Speaker 2: actually one of the plates, we're actually doing coffee in there. So, ah, yes,
- 9:10Speaker 2: I know. I know.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe we should talk.
- 9:16Speaker 2: For sure.
- 9:17Speaker 1: So many people were first introduced to you through Selling Sunset.
- 9:20Speaker 1: Now that you're into this new chapter and putting so
- 9:23Speaker 1: much energy into Coast to Coast Kitchen, how do you
- 9:27Speaker 1: reflect on your time on the show and what did
- 9:30Speaker 1: it do for your life and for your career?
- 9:33Speaker 2: So, so funny because I was definitely really hesitant to
- 9:36Speaker 2: join Selling Sunset because I'm such a private person and
- 9:40Speaker 2: And now looking back, I'm so grateful that I took
- 9:43Speaker 2: that opportunity to really let people into my life because,
- 9:47Speaker 2: you know, before that, you know, I had an Instagram following.
- 9:50Speaker 2: I had people that, you know, followed my story, but
- 9:52Speaker 2: they knew nothing about me. They didn't know my personality.
- 9:54Speaker 2: They could, you know, they're seeing a picture online and
- 9:57Speaker 2: you can't really tell, but I think opening up the door.
- 10:00Speaker 2: to my life, people saw I'm really outgoing and bubbly
- 10:04Speaker 2: and family oriented and a really good friend. So I
- 10:06Speaker 2: think that was important for people to really see. And
- 10:09Speaker 2: then obviously launching my company was, I mean, being on
- 10:13Speaker 2: Selling Sunset, having people get to know me, and then
- 10:17Speaker 2: launching my company with Target, people wanted to go out
- 10:19Speaker 2: to the store. They wanted to buy what I was serving.
- 10:22Speaker 2: You know, they've seen me on the show. They want
- 10:24Speaker 2: to eat what I'm eating. They know I love to cook.
- 10:26Speaker 2: They know about my empanadas. I've talked about them on screen. So,
- 10:29Speaker 2: you know, it was it was really rewarding to, you know,
- 10:33Speaker 2: be on a show like that. Obviously, there's pros and
- 10:35Speaker 2: cons with it. Your life is out there for the
- 10:37Speaker 2: world to see and judge. But in another breath, you know,
- 10:40Speaker 2: people really got to know me and see my personality
- 10:43Speaker 2: and know that, you know, I'm a Boston girl through
- 10:45Speaker 2: and through. Well, since.
- 10:49Speaker 1: This is i am all in we obviously have to
- 10:51Speaker 1: bring you into stars hollow for a minute if you
- 10:53Speaker 1: don't mind uh are you a gilmore girls fan.
- 10:56Speaker 2: I actually just because i just started watching because now
- 10:59Speaker 2: i'm like oh now i need to watch and see
- 11:01Speaker 2: it and i needed a show so this is perfect.
- 11:03Speaker 3: Timing okay good uh well enjoy uh and if so
- 11:08Speaker 3: are you really as you watch it are you relating
- 11:10Speaker 3: more to lorelei or rory I.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Think Rory a little bit. I love, you know, definitely
- 11:17Speaker 2: she's family oriented and stuff like that. I definitely see
- 11:20Speaker 2: a lot of myself in her in different ways. And
- 11:23Speaker 2: I think, you know, as I go through the episodes,
- 11:25Speaker 2: definitely I see more connections with different things for sure.
- 11:29Speaker 1: Right.
- 11:29Speaker 2: All right.
- 11:30Speaker 1: So Lorelai and Rory are obviously famous for their eating habits.
- 11:34Speaker 1: If they walked into Dosey's Market and found Coast to
- 11:38Speaker 1: Coast Kitchen in the freezer aisle, which flavor would are
- 11:42Speaker 1: you sending each of them home with?
- 11:45Speaker 2: Definitely Rory is going to be going home with a
- 11:49Speaker 2: sweet chili shrimp empanadas. I already know. And then Lorelai
- 11:52Speaker 2: definitely going to get it the lobster. I already had
- 11:55Speaker 2: that decided. That's like, I feel like, yeah, that would
- 11:57Speaker 2: be a good pick for the two of them.
- 11:59Speaker 1: And would you, would you perhaps consider sending some of
- 12:02Speaker 1: those items to Luke?
- 12:04Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. Okay.
- 12:05Speaker 1: All right. Good.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Maybe the new England.
- 12:07Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 12:08Speaker 2: Maybe the new England crab cakes. I think also, Yeah,
- 12:11Speaker 2: for sure.
- 12:12Speaker 1: That would be great.
- 12:13Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I like to give all of the
- 12:15Speaker 2: flavors to everybody so then they can decide because I
- 12:19Speaker 2: love to hear what's the favorite.
- 12:21Speaker 1: Oh, you know what? Let's send them. Then we'll do
- 12:24Speaker 1: another segment.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Okay, perfect. See, that's so much fun. That's like my
- 12:28Speaker 2: favorite thing to do. I will send... The best cooler ever.
- 12:31Speaker 1: Oh, that's awesome. I can't wait. Well, thank you so
- 12:35Speaker 1: much for your time. I know how busy you are.
- 12:37Speaker 1: You're running multiple businesses and you have a lot to do,
- 12:40Speaker 1: but thanks for taking the time out and carving that
- 12:42Speaker 1: time out of this day.
- 12:42Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 12:43Speaker 1: So that's going to do it, everybody. Thanks for all
- 12:47Speaker 1: the downloads. Keep the cards and letters coming. We read
- 12:50Speaker 1: every one of them. We appreciate it so much. Thank you,
- 12:53Speaker 1: Emma Hernan. Coast to Coast Kitchens at Target. Go out
- 12:59Speaker 1: and get you some wonderful, wonderful crab cakes and empanadas.
- 13:04Speaker 1: And remember, where you lead, we will follow. Thanks so much, everybody.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Stay safe. Hey, everybody, don't forget, follow us on Instagram
- 13:40Speaker 1: at I Am All In Podcast and email us at
- 13:43Speaker 1: gilmore at iheartradio.com.