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Ohtani batting FIFTH, Yankees slop on display, Braves-Dodgers setup for PITCHERS DUEL, Pham jokingly confronts Manfred · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to a brand new live
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  Speaker 1: after the Dodgers and the Braves game, we will be
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  Speaker 1: hosting a postgame show. So make sure you tune in
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  Speaker 1: with Kevin Pillar, Todd Frazier, and Heidi Watney. They will
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  Speaker 1: take you through that postgame show after Los Angeles and Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: All right, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Good to see you.
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  Speaker 3: Good to be with you.
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  Speaker 1: Just real quick thoughts before we get into some things
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  Speaker 1: here on this game three, LA and Atlanta. AJ, you
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  Speaker 1: go first.
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  Speaker 3: The Yankees still can't play defense and do the fundamentals
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  Speaker 3: very well, and that's costing the game. The Guardians aren't
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  Speaker 3: very good, and the White Sox are going to the LCS.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of what– the Guardians can't hit. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Krauts. I know we have Kipnis on here.
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  Speaker 3: You love Steven Vogt. I love Steven Vogt. They can
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  Speaker 3: really pitch, but they can't hit a lick. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if it wasn't for the error by the White Sox yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: they might still not have scored in the series. So
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  Speaker 3: it's been really– It's been hard to watch. If you're
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  Speaker 3: a Guardians fan, I'm sorry. I'm obviously not a Guardians fan.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a White Sox fan, and it's been great for
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  Speaker 3: White Sox fans, but man, they cannot hit.
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  Speaker 2: I would say overall, just the general look of this postseason.
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  Speaker 2: Not one narrative plays out. You could give me any
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  Speaker 2: narrative of, oh, this team, when they out Homer another team,
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  Speaker 2: they win. When this team, they're so good at defense,
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  Speaker 2: you know, their defense. Wait, the team that makes the
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  Speaker 2: most errors loses. Like all the narratives, all the narratives
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  Speaker 2: are out the window. So you need to tune into
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  Speaker 2: every game. I've had a blast. And I agree with
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  Speaker 2: all that you said, except Steven Vogt and Jason Kipnis
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  Speaker 2: can hit. So maybe they should get in that bat.
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  Speaker 1: All right, guys, it is now time to charge the mound.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get started on that, let's hear from Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Boone and Cam Schlittler after last night's loss.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously a really rough night to say the
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  Speaker 4: least for us. So, you know, we got to get
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  Speaker 4: over it. You know, we've responded all year to difficult times.
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  Speaker 3: We've got to do that again. We've got to get
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  Speaker 3: ourselves up off the mat.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, tonight was just not good enough for us and
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  Speaker 4: certainly not good enough to beat that club. We've got
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  Speaker 4: to get over it and plan for our lives Tuesday night.
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  Speaker 5: How grueling is a night like tonight when the defense
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  Speaker 5: is breaking down, forcing you to throw more pitches out there? Obviously,
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  Speaker 5: it starts with me. I'll be the first one to
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  Speaker 5: say that I didn't do my job, but It didn't
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  Speaker 5: seem like we really showed up today, so that's what happens.
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  Speaker 5: They played really good baseball and took advantage of those opportunities.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think that is?
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  Speaker 5: I don't got an answer for that. All I can
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  Speaker 5: do is assess my outing and realize that it needs
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  Speaker 5: to be better than that.
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  Speaker 1: I certainly appreciate Cam Schlittler talking to the media postgame
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  Speaker 1: after that loss. More to be said than Blake Snell
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  Speaker 1: did after his loss. But Tampa Bay raised a 5-2 victory, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay now has the advantage, 2-1, as they go
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  Speaker 1: back to the Bronx. Really, right now, AJ, the only
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  Speaker 1: person for the New York Yankees that seems to be
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  Speaker 1: getting the job done is Ben Rice. How do they
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  Speaker 1: flip this script?
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  Speaker 2: 2-0, not 2-1. 2-0.
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  Speaker 1: What did I say? 2-1, sorry.
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  Speaker 2: 2-0. My bad.
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  Speaker 1: How do they flip this script?
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  Speaker 3: Catch the ball, get hit with runners in scoring position. Listen,
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  Speaker 3: Cam Schmiller can say he didn't do his job all
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  Speaker 3: he wants. I mean, the Rays did. First of all,
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  Speaker 3: let's give the Rays a ton of credit. They didn't
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  Speaker 3: strike out. They fouled off a ton of pitches, and
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  Speaker 3: they kept putting the ball in play. And, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the first inning, three errors by the Yankees, or two
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  Speaker 3: or three errors. And the next, when they scored, it
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  Speaker 3: was the 7th or the 8th, and they scored the 4th.
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  Speaker 3: A couple errors by George Lombard. They just kept putting
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  Speaker 3: the ball in play. Cam Schlitter normally strikes out a
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  Speaker 3: ton of guys. The Rays put the ball in play.
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  Speaker 3: They fouled off pitches. So the Rays deserve a ton
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  Speaker 3: of credit. They put pressure on them from the jump, right?
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  Speaker 3: But the Yankees' offense, though, they had the one chance
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  Speaker 3: where Cody Bellinger hit the ball with the base load.
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  Speaker 3: They brought in Boozer, hit the fly ball to center field,
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  Speaker 3: and you could see on his face the frustration. But
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  Speaker 3: other than Ben Rice, it hasn't been a very good offense.
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  Speaker 3: It hasn't been a very deep offense in two games.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they got shut out. They got one hit
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  Speaker 3: in the first game, and now the second game, the
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  Speaker 3: two runs they scored around Ben Rice-Homers, it's been– It's
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  Speaker 3: kind of been what their Achilles heel has been for
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  Speaker 3: the last few years with the Yankees. Defense against the
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  Speaker 3: Dodgers failed them. And then they just if they don't
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  Speaker 3: hit enough home runs, they don't score because they can't
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  Speaker 3: manufacture runs. Yes, I know they're more athletic. Yes, I
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  Speaker 3: know they're faster with some of the guys, but they
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  Speaker 3: don't do it enough. And that's not the game they
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  Speaker 3: play to where they can win games like that. And
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  Speaker 3: when you play a team like the Rays, they expose
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  Speaker 3: that because they look at your weakness and say, all right,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to try and do everything we can. to
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  Speaker 3: make your weakness come out, and they've done it against
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  Speaker 3: the Yankees in the first two games. Series isn't over
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  Speaker 3: because you have Freed, Rodon, and you're going back to
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  Speaker 3: Yankee Stadium, but.
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  Speaker 2: It got a lot tougher. What a luxury to still
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  Speaker 2: have Freed and Rodon. But it was a stark difference
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  Speaker 2: of Freddie Peralta didn't get strikeouts, but they also didn't
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  Speaker 2: put too many balls in play against them either. Freddie Peralta,
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  Speaker 2: I think, had three strikeouts. The bullpen came in, did
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  Speaker 2: their job. Yankees faltered a little bit, but it really
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  Speaker 2: comes down to the defense. Can anybody make an error
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  Speaker 2: at any time? Absolutely. Gold Glovers make errors. Platinum Glovers
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  Speaker 2: make errors. But when the errors are nonsensical to me,
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  Speaker 2: when they are just, what were you thinking in that moment?
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  Speaker 2: You have to question, just in general, not how bad
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  Speaker 2: do they want it, but are they willing to be
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  Speaker 2: in uncomfortable spots? to make sure you're doing the basics
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  Speaker 2: night in and night out because these are the games
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  Speaker 2: where it comes to light when you don't score nine runs.
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  Speaker 1: Does it seem though that this is something that would
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  Speaker 1: have been addressed, AJ, after the 2024 World Series where
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  Speaker 1: it seems like game five, particularly, or game four rather,
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  Speaker 1: particularly in that fifth inning, they had all of these
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  Speaker 1: fundamentally unsound mistakes They didn't seem to clean it up.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on with the Yankees?
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  Speaker 3: Well, they have the personnel that they have. Unless they're
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  Speaker 3: going to make big moves and change the personnel, you can't.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Jazz has been there for a couple years, right?
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  Speaker 3: They still have Grisham in center field. I mean, they
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  Speaker 3: tried to clean it up, but, man, he made some errors.
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  Speaker 3: Lombard's a rookie. They had Volpe there. They trust Lombard
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  Speaker 3: more than they trust Volpe. I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how you change it. They tried to make small changes, but,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Jazz has been there for a couple years.
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  Speaker 3: The outfield defense, Bellinger's pretty good out there. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they've tried. But unless they're going to just revamp the
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  Speaker 3: whole team, it's not going to happen overnight. And they
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  Speaker 3: work on it. People say, oh, they don't work on it.
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  Speaker 3: They work on their defense just like every other team does.
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  Speaker 3: Just some people are better at defense than others. And
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  Speaker 3: in this game last night, it came out big time
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  Speaker 3: that the Rays made all the plays and the Yankees
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  Speaker 3: did it.
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  Speaker 2: We said it before. What do the Rays build their
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  Speaker 2: team on? Throwing the ball as hard as you freaking
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  Speaker 2: can and hitting it as hard as you freaking can.
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  Speaker 2: Not saying that you can't work on that stuff. Not
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  Speaker 2: saying that the guys don't get out there and work.
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  Speaker 2: I know who the old infield coordinator was, and then
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  Speaker 2: he would work with these guys all the time. The
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  Speaker 2: work is never an issue. It's just like saying, well,
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  Speaker 2: I was really good at defense, but I couldn't hit.
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  Speaker 2: Why don't you take more swings? It doesn't work like that.
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  Speaker 2: So it's really in the analytical model of how you
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  Speaker 2: build your team. What do you want? Do you want athleticism?
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  Speaker 2: And I think the Yankees have pushed more towards athleticism.
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  Speaker 2: But if you never go away from guys who I'm
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  Speaker 2: willing to give up some defense because this dude's going
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  Speaker 2: to pump us 25. I'm willing to give up on
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  Speaker 2: this because, you know, he drives the ball in the gap,
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is. They have to continue to change their model,
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  Speaker 2: but it's hard to get away from the things that
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  Speaker 2: they think and have made them get to the playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they haven't won the World Series since 2009, right?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe the Yankees should add defensive metrics and
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  Speaker 1: fundamental baseball metrics into their analytics formula. But AJ, is
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  Speaker 1: it possible that I get that this team is built
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  Speaker 1: to slug, but it doesn't mean that you can't also
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  Speaker 1: learn or teach small ball? Why does it have to
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  Speaker 1: be one or the other? Why can't it be both?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it can be both. Those teams that win do both,
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  Speaker 3: but Yankees aren't built like that. What did Crouch just say?
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  Speaker 3: The Yankees want guys that hit the ball really hard
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  Speaker 3: and they want guys that throw the ball really hard.
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  Speaker 3: Those are their big analytics things that they believe in.
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  Speaker 3: Whereas you look at a team like the Rays and
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  Speaker 3: the Brewers who ended up with the best records in
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  Speaker 3: both leagues, they find out what a guy player is
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  Speaker 3: good at and they incorporate their strength into their team, right?
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  Speaker 3: You look at a, Jackson Churio, he hits home runs
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  Speaker 3: and he can put the ball in play. We saw
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  Speaker 3: it against Mason Miller, right? You look at the Rays.
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  Speaker 3: Yandy Diaz can do both. Jonathan Aranda can do both.
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  Speaker 3: Liam Hicks, who they got at the trade deadline, can
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  Speaker 3: do both. They can put the ball in play and drive.
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  Speaker 3: Then they have Chandler Simpson hitting fifth, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: in their lineup, who has no power, but he hits
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  Speaker 3: over 300 and he puts a ton of pressure on
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  Speaker 3: you when he comes up there. Is he going to bunt? Oh,
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  Speaker 3: if he slaps the ball the other way and gets
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  Speaker 3: on first, does it turn into a triple? So you
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  Speaker 3: can incorporate both. But you have to have those kind
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  Speaker 3: of players. You have to draft those kind of players,
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  Speaker 3: and you have to develop those kind of players. And
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: if you just draft guys that are big, strong, and
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  Speaker 3: want to hit homers, then that's what you end up
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  Speaker 3: having on your big league team. That's fine. If that's
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  Speaker 3: your philosophy, that's fine. I mean, the Indians, Guardians, did
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  Speaker 3: it back in the 90s, and they had Manny and
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  Speaker 3: Jim Tomey and all those guys that were sluggers. And
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  Speaker 3: that was the way they were trying to win. They
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  Speaker 3: were trying to out-slug you. Yes, Charles Nagy was nice,
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  Speaker 3: and Oral Hershiser at the end of the career was nice. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they made it to the World Series, but
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  Speaker 3: they could never get over the hump because they played
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  Speaker 3: teams that could do both. You have to be able
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  Speaker 3: to do both. Yankees have just not over the last
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  Speaker 3: couple of years been able to do the little things
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  Speaker 3: to get them over the hump. And I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if that can be taught or not. I'm sure fans
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  Speaker 3: would say, oh, you can teach that stuff. It's really
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  Speaker 3: hard to teach that stuff when you have veteran players
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  Speaker 3: that have been around and done the thing for a
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  Speaker 3: long time.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's an expectation because we're talking about hitting
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  Speaker 2: homers and throwing the ball hard. That is a very
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  Speaker 2: generalized term. And I never want to put everything into
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  Speaker 2: the same basket analytics. Like I think the Dodgers have
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  Speaker 2: like two bunts for hits this year, where I think
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  Speaker 2: the Rays might have like 20 some. So it's not
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  Speaker 2: just bunting. It's not just not throwing the ball hard.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just whatever it is. Like it can't be
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  Speaker 2: just one thing. But I promise I've never seen Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Judge put a bunt down. That's not what they're asking
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  Speaker 2: him to do. But I saw him every single day
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  Speaker 2: that we hit together in the same group, put one
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  Speaker 2: or two bunts down in batting practice. And it may
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  Speaker 2: have been a joke, like nobody's ever going to ask
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  Speaker 2: him to bunt. I get that. But if that guy
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  Speaker 2: does it, everybody needs to be able to do it.
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  Speaker 2: And you need to be able to do little things
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  Speaker 2: because Jackson Turio you brought up, he can put one
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  Speaker 2: in the streets. But you know what? When you're facing
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  Speaker 2: Mason Miller, he's not giving up a lot of dingers.
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  Speaker 2: So he had to be able to change his swing
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  Speaker 2: after he fouled two 102-mile-an-hour fastballs off straight back to
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  Speaker 2: get on top. If those guys on this Yankees team
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  Speaker 2: or whatever team's in the playoff aren't willing to make
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  Speaker 2: the adjustment, if the Guardians aren't willing to swing for
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  Speaker 2: the fences a little bit, then you're going to get cooked.
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  Speaker 2: And they do– the Yankees do like defensive guys. Austin
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  Speaker 2: Wells has kept his job in the entire year because
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  Speaker 2: he's one of the best defensive catchers, according to their
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  Speaker 2: analytical metrics, behind the dish.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. First of all, you said two things that are crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Aaron Judge is never going to bunt. If Aaron Judge bunt– Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so he can work on bunting all he wants. That's
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  Speaker 3: not the point. Aaron Judge is a great hitter, and
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  Speaker 3: he can hit the ball in the seats. That's what
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  Speaker 3: he's there for, okay? But you have to have a–
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  Speaker 3: the teams that have had the best record have a
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  Speaker 3: mix of both, and it's the Brewers and the Rays.
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  Speaker 3: And not every team is built that way. And by
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  Speaker 3: the way, also I saw one time we had a
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  Speaker 3: meeting when I was with the White Sox. Jim told
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  Speaker 3: me it was on like 499 homers. Kenny Williams had
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  Speaker 3: a meeting because he just saw Eric Hinsky bunt that
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  Speaker 3: Jim told me he should bunt. We all kind of
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  Speaker 3: laughed at him because what are we talking about here, right?
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  Speaker 3: So no, there's certain, like me, I can bunt because
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  Speaker 3: I could bunt for a hit with two outs in
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  Speaker 3: the third baseman back and there's a runner on third.
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  Speaker 3: I could steal an RBI, right? That was fine. I
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  Speaker 3: had the ability, but I was also taught that from
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  Speaker 3: a young age because I wasn't going to hit 50
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  Speaker 3: homers a year. So I think it's, you have to
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  Speaker 3: know your skillset. And I think certain teams are better
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  Speaker 3: off finding more rounded skill sets, whereas other teams– and listen,
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  Speaker 3: the Yankees have been great. They win every year. They
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  Speaker 3: go to the playoffs every year. But they haven't won
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  Speaker 3: it in almost 20 years now, 2009. And if you
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  Speaker 3: look at that team, they had Johnny Damon on that team.
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  Speaker 3: They had Derek Jeter. Those guys weren't home run guys. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: you had A-Rod and Teixeira and some of the other guys,
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  Speaker 3: but they also had guys that could do other things.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't just a strictly we're going to out-slug you
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  Speaker 3: every day team.
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  Speaker 1: Only 10 out of 91 teams, guys. That's just 11%
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  Speaker 1: have recovered from an 0-2 deficit in a best-of-five series.
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  Speaker 1: Blunder after blunder for the Yankees. The Tampa Bay Rays
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  Speaker 1: continuing to put on the pressure, and they take a
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  Speaker 1: 2-0 advantage as it goes back to New York. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: our first guest is ready. Do not forget to check
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: out Pinstripe Territory with our friend Derek Lewandowski as the
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Yankees try to salvage their season tomorrow. We're going to
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll be right back. Tommy Pham
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: jokingly confronted Commissioner Rob Manfred about why a ball he
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  Speaker 1: hit on Saturday wasn't a homer. This is per Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Agrist on XFAM. Rob, what's going on with the balls? Manfred,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: what balls? Pham, I can't be hitting no doubters, man,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: and not helping them in getting out. How am I
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: supposed to get a job next year if that ball
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: don't go out? You got to love Tommy Pham. He's
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: a guy that you love on your team, AJ. A
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: guy that, you know, the opposition doesn't necessarily love him,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: but he's a baller. He's a gamer. What do you
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: make of this?
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: I think it's funny. They still won the game. I
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: love Tommy. Tommy's nonstop. He's hardcore, man, when it comes
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: to caring and saying what he thinks. I watched that
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: game and it ended up being a double play. But
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: the White Sox won, so you know what, Tommy? I
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: love you, but who cares?
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: I used to have a pitching coach. He pitched in
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: the big leagues for a long time, Dave LaRoche, Adam
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: and Andy's dad. And he said, oh, that guy hit
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: that ball really good. He said, but he didn't catch
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: a seam. He'd say, that's what happens. When somebody hits
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: one really hard and it doesn't go out, didn't catch
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: a seam. You'll be able to tell. Go get me
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: that ball. And he would always get the ball and
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: be like, see, here's the flat spot. That ball, he
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: didn't catch a seam. So that's what I'll tell Tommy
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: next time I see him. Sorry, bro, you didn't catch
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: a seam. There's no way the balls are inconsistent. That
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: would never happen in Major League Baseball.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: No, that would never, ever, ever happen. I love that, though,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: on his Instagram post. How'd this ball not get out?
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: 106 exit velo at 31 degrees. Goes 366 feet with crosswind.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I hit a similar ball two weeks ago. It was
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: 420 feet. It was the wind. Must have been the wind, right?
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Must have been the wind. It had nothing to do
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: with the seam there, AJ.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: AJ is loving the White Sox right now. I'm loving
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the White Sox right now.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: Who's not loving the White Sox vibe?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Everybody.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Come on. Everybody. From the Pope. To the north side
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: of Chicago, everyone's loving the White Sox. This team is fun.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: I said, you know, fun wins. Why can't fun win?
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: And they are fun as all get out and watch
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: their interviews, watch Murakami, watch Mike Vassell, watch this team.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: They're having fun and they believe. And it is hard
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: to beat a team that believes and is having a
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: good time and getting big hits, getting big performances. Listen,
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Will Venable has done an outstanding job with the openers
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: to the bullpen, to bringing in Sean Burke to shove.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: You know, here's the thing. This is why I said
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: what I said earlier in the year that, if they
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: don't make the postseason to be a failure, because if
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: you look at the way the bracket lined up and
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: it's lined up that way, they had a pretty easy
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: shot to get to the ALCS with the two teams
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: they were playing. And here they are, one win away,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: especially at home.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: 2014 Royals looks very similar.
• 17:43
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• 17:51
  Speaker 1: San Diego, a city by many names, none that I
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: can repeat here on air. AJ is there. AJ is
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: doing the game, of course, on Fox. This should be
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: a good one, I think. And Ken Rosenthal, guys, talked
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: about it, too, on Fair Territory. He said of any
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: of the teams that are down right now in the series,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: He has the most faith in the Padres being able
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: to recoup some things because of the fact they are
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: going back to Petco with that great fan base. AJ,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: what are you looking forward to when you cover this
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: game tonight?
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Well, the atmosphere obviously is going to be off the charts. Loud, crazy.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Then they need him. The one thing I worry about
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: with the Padres is they threw King, who's their best starter,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: they lost. Morajon lost. Mason Miller lost. Those are like
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: their three dudes that they count on to win every
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: time those guys take the mound. And all three of
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: them basically in two games have not done what you
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: would expect them to do. How do they bounce back?
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: They need offense tonight. They need Manny Machado. They need
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Fernando Tatis. They need Xander Bogarts. They need Jackson Merrill.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: They need these guys to come through and get some
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: big hits for them. And then if you're the Brewers,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: you just stay the course. You have You have Dustin
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: May pitching, who's had some success against the Padres. How
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: deep can Nick Babetta go for the Padres? Another question.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: But you get, you know, Dustin May, three innings, four innings,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: five innings, whatever he can give you. And then you
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: go to a bullpen for the Brewers. That's been great.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: It's going to be, it's going to come down to
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: who gets the big hits. The first two games, honestly,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: the Brewers got the big hits, took the walks when
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: they needed them. And the Padres haven't. That's been really
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: the story is that the Brewers have gotten more big
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: hits than the Padres. Can the Padres flip the script
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: at home? with their home crowd behind them, and get
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: the big hits. And they need Fernando and they need
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Manny to step up big time.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: AJ, you're in this series. You see this all. I mean,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: you're so invested because you're calling this series. Do you
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: feel like what the Padres need is to face a
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Matthew Boyd? Nothing against Matthew Boyd. Do you feel... like
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: the Padres lineup has been a little bit overmatched with
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: what the Brewers are able to run out there? Or
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: is it just the fact that, hey, you know what?
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: This has been a close series and it's flipped the
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Brewers way both of first games.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: No, I think they just need to get it. I mean, Listen,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: nothing against Matthew Boyd, but they need to get a
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: big hit. They haven't gotten one. Jackson Chariot, huge hit, right,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: in game two off Mason Miller. If he strikes out,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: we're talking completely different, right, or if he hits a
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: pop-up or whatever. The first game, the Padres, I think,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: left 12 guys on base. They had Fernando and Manny
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: up in a lot of those situations. They didn't get hits.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: They didn't drive in the runs they needed to drive in.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Jackson Merrill didn't get any hits in the first game.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: So I think– I don't know who they're facing. It
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter who they're facing because you're not facing terrible
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: pitching in the postseason. I just– I just, I don't
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: know how they figure it out. Maybe it's a home cooking.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's relaxing at home. I don't know. I just,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: I thought they'd be better because they came in here
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: so hot. And they honestly could be up 2-0 in
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: this series if not for some huge hits from the Brewers.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: But man, they got to figure out a way to
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: get some hits with guys in scoring position because it
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: has been ugly for them.
• 20:58
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• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Guys, David Ortiz said it's over. I'm sorry. He does
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: not see the Padres overcoming an 0-2 deficit in the NLDS. Eric,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I'll start with you. Do you agree with Big Papi,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: or do you think that the Brewers can make a
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: go at this? Excuse me, the Padres make a go
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: at this.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I don't agree at all. I mean, we have all
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: 2-0 series right now, and if you made me choose
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: which one because of what AJ said, like, This could
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: be a 2-0 series. If Maury Holm doesn't give up
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: an Apo Taco Homer to Contreras, this could be a
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: completely different script. I think this one could go 5.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I think they go home and they have an advantage
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: at home. the crowd, but they also have an advantage
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: because of the off day. They played the last game
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: without an off day. I'm not saying Mason Miller wouldn't
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: have pitched in that game or whatever. They may not
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: have needed him for two innings. Whatever it is, they
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: had an off day. Their superpower is that bullpen. Pavetta
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: gives them a little bit, but I think the Padres
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: are not done because of what they can do with
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: their lineup and their bullpen.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're done either. Manny Machado, AJ, said
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: that he heard David Ortiz's comments when asked about him.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: He said, those aren't the first comments that we've heard
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: about us this year. It's been all year from everyone.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Here we are once again with our backs against the wall.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: We overcame it once, and we're going to do it again.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: That's Manny Machado addressing the media regarding Big Papi's comments.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, are the Padres underperforming? Are the Brewers overperforming, AJ?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Or is this just a Brewers team that we don't
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: give a lot of credit to?
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: No, I think both teams have performed, but like I said,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: they beat the best. They beat Padres best two nights
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: in a row. They beat Marajon and they beat Mason Miller. They,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: the Brewers are good. The Brewers, you don't win 103
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: games by accident in the national league. Okay. So the
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Brewers are really good. They are really deep lineup. They
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: play the heck out of defense. They can really pitch.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I think some of their pitchers are underrated because you
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: don't know a lot of their names, especially coming out
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: of the bullpen, McGill, Abner, eBay, Ashby. They got a
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: bunch of dudes. They just run out that are pretty good. Um,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: But as far as the Padres go, I don't think
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: this is over at all, man. I don't want it
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: to be over. I want this series to go five
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: and Mizorowski pitch game five again and see where it's at.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I can't, I'm going to say this again.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: I think the atmosphere in Petco tonight is going to
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: give the Padres a huge boost. And I think that's
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: not why it's over. If they win a game, then
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I think they win game four. And then we go
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: back to Milwaukee. Now they could get swept and I
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: would be, I wouldn't be shocked either, but as far
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: as it being over, absolutely not. The Padres are going
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: to give them everything they've gotten. The birds better be
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: ready for it. They better not, rest on their laurels
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: because it could easily quickly flip and go back to
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Milwaukee with everything in the line.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I think the, I think the best part of that
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: quote was left out on the tweet because he said,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: the question was, do you have a comment about what
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: David Ortiz said? He said, I'm not commenting about what
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: somebody else says. And then he commented on it. So
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that for Manny, for a team that doesn't
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: talk a lot. I appreciate him. Nobody's counted them out.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe they've heard all the hate, This team
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: has been a really good team. Sorry, I don't think
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: anybody picked them to win the division. Like, that wasn't
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: going to happen. But I know I had them going
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: to the playoffs. I know I thought they were going
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: to be better than the Diamondbacks, better than the Giants,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: who some people were like, ooh, the Giants could be something. Like,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I think they're a really good team that's been built
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: to be really good. And that's why I think this
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: series going to San Diego is much to watch.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I think it's funny that you were saying what Manny said.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to comment it, but then he went
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: on and commented. But Craig Stammen, the manager of the Padres,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: had kind of a funny quote as well. This from
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Bob Nightingale on X. When asked if he second-guessed himself
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: on any decision in their two defeats in Milwaukee, I
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: never second-guessed myself. That's for everybody else to do. I
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: think that's a perfectly answered question in terms of that.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Because you're damned if you do. You're damned if you don't.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: What are you second-guessing? Mason Merford, the ninth?
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: No.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: He threw 12 pitches the first inning. No. Maury Holm
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: for two innings? He's done that all year. He's done
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: those two innings the entire year. I mean, could you say, oh,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: they let Michael King go another inning? Well, he was
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: that third time through. He just hit the leadoff guy.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: They know their team. They brought in Matt Sui. They
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: brought in Rodriguez. They did their job. They got him
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: to Mason Miller with the lead. There's not any second guessing.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: He's done everything. The only thing I second guess, and
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I said it on the air, is you don't take
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: your catcher out when you have a lead. I said that,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: and I stand by it. You don't take your catcher out. Listen,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: and you know what happened? and this is not a
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: knock on Firmino at all, but Camposano's spot came up
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: in a huge situation and Firmino hit into a double play.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: And listen, it happens. I've done it. I've hit into
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: a double play a million times. But, man, Camposano's not
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: that bad. Is he crouched behind the plate? I mean,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: is he that bad behind the plate that you're defensively
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: replacing him in a playoff game where he's led your
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: team through six or seven innings knowing exactly what to
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: call and how to get there?
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: That was probably the only forced part of the decision.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: because hey you know what this is this was the
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: spot where we can do this because we have three
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: catchers we also have Salas on the roster but no
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I mean we're nitpicking because of how it ended up
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: but that's the reality of this situation and just because
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Stammen says oh I'm not second guessing this it doesn't
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: mean he didn't like think about it I'm sure he
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: thought about the fact that Mason Miller is not landing
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: that breaking ball. Why did he walk these guys? What
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: are the decisions? Why are we calling these pitches that,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: you know what, a home run is the only thing
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: that beats us. And I think Mason Miller gave up
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: just a few of those all season. So, you know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think second guessing is the same as contemplating
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: the decisions you make. And in the playoffs, he will
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: always know this. He will always think about it. I'm
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: sure AJ made some bad decisions in the playoffs. I remember.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I called a four-seam fastball up and in to Cody
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Bellinger in 2018. Jolies Chastin shook and went with a sinker,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: and I was like, sure. I second-guessed myself. I'm like,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: should I have said, no, we're going four-seamer? Because in
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: the next pitch, started where the four-seamer was going to,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: broke back on the plate, and Cody hit a dinger
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: in game seven. So is that second-guessing, or is that
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: just saying, you know what, it didn't go well? Should
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I have done something different?
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Like you said, hindsight's always 20, 20, but I'm running
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Mason Miller out there and more hone out there. Every
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: chance I get, every chance I get, I'm twice.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: If I got a chance to do it twice. Amen. Exactly. Exactly.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 28:28
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• 29:06
  Speaker 1: What is a game that you are purchasing tickets for
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: either for tonight? We already know where AJ is going
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: to be, but what game are you trying to buy
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: tickets for tonight or tomorrow?
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Shocker. AJ doesn't need to buy tickets because he's got
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: a gold card and he uses it every time he
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: goes into every stadium. But no, I have, I have,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: it's not even a night game. It's a four o'clock game.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: So the shadows are going to be kind of tough
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: in Chicago. But like, I'm getting chills thinking about like,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: almost like a Premier League soccer environment in Chicago. So
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I have to see the– well, it's going to probably
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: be just a meh game because it's going to be
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: bullpens and not much hitting from the Guardians. I have
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: to see the environment in playoff baseball in Chicago because
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: they're starved for it. I hope they do the blackout.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I hope they do some kind of, like, Norway, like–
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: As they're like, as they're, I don't know, something like
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I want to be there. So that's where I'm buying
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: tickets for.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: All right. Big World Cup fan. This Eric Kratz is.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I don't need to buy tickets to go there, Kratzy.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I don't need to buy tickets.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: You don't need to buy tickets anywhere. You've never bought
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: a ticket to a baseball game because you have your
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: gold card and your gold card's almost worn out. You
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: use it so much.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I don't even know where my gold card is. I
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: had to go find it once people started showing their off.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I tell you what, the only thing I'm upset a
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: lot about the White Sox game. It's just a day game.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: So a blackout's not going to have the same effect
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: as it does at night. I wish they were– they
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: do blackouts in Chicago, and I get it. I just–
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I wish it was a night game.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I wish it was a night game so that it
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: would be– it's way cooler. I played in the original
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: blackout in 2008. The one game playoff we did, and
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: it was the coolest atmosphere ever. I was at the
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: one they did in the 2021, and it was a
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: night game, right? And it's way better. So it stinks
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: that it's a four o'clock game. It stinks that it's
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: in the middle of the day because it doesn't have
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: the same effect. But White Sox fans are going to
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: be going berserk. They haven't had a chance to win
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: a series at home since 1906. So be there.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: This game is just fun. I don't care who you
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: root for. This team is a blast to watch. Of course,
• 31:11
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• 31:31
  Speaker 1: on Shohei Ohtani struggles at the plate. He can still
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: do a better job of staying in the strike zone.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Roberts says the Braves will pitch Ohtani outstripe the strike zone.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: A lot going on with him, you guys, as far
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: as Shohei Otani is concerned. He has not had an
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: RBI since August 19th. He hasn't had a home run
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: since August 18th. Obviously, you're not going to sit Shohei Otani, AJ.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: But something's got to give here with this Dodgers offense.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: It's not all Shohei. The offense in general is pretty lethargic.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: But it seems like Shohei is chasing outside of the
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: zone a lot more than he is accustomed to.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: He is because he's anxious. He's trying too hard. And
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: there was one guy who's been doing good. It's our
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: boy Max Muncy. He's been raking. He stays in the
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: strike zone. Max and Freddie have been the two that
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: have been doing all right. They stay inside the strike zone.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: So you've got to figure out a way to get
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: in the strike zone. And once teams find out you
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: won't stay in the strike zone, especially in the postseason,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: you don't see a lot of strikes. And Shohei needs
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: to tighten it up, get in the strike zone. But
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: he's got a tough hombre on the mound tonight. If
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: you ain't seen Chris Sale pitch, he's pretty decent.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: And Shohei– wait, Max didn't start, so– Max is one
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: of their better hitters, and Max didn't even start the
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: other night. This is a tough matchup for Shohei. I mean,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: if the boys want Shohei to do well, I think
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: you've got to knock Chris Sale out of the game somehow,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: but Chris Sale just doesn't get knocked out of the
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: game because Shohei is something about like a 37-degree angle
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: or lower from lefties. He has just ridiculously poor numbers.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: It's such a general thing I just said, but that's
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: how the Phillies– subdued Shohei last year because they threw Sanchez,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Ranger Suarez, and Jesus Lizardo, I'm pretty sure. But it was,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: you know, that, that was how they, that's how they
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: neutralize Shohei. And it'll be tough tonight, but Shohei will
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: be fine. Like you're not taking Shohei out.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: By the way, no lefties hit those guys. Cracks just FYI.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: No lefties hit 30 or lower, whatever the angle is.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Cause you know what? Those guys are usually pretty good
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: and you don't see a whole heck of a lot
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: of them. So when you get that lefty, that's, Especially
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Chris Sale is like Randy Johnson. Let's just don't hit him.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Maybe Sid Shohei, Alana.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Say it.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I dare you to say Sid Shohei.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: She'll never. Sid Shohei.
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: Sid Shohei.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: She'll never.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: That was AI.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: That was AI. It wasn't Alana.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: We want to welcome our friend CJ Nikowski to the show.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Braves analyst, of course, longtime Braves guy. Good to see you, CJ.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. A good one tonight as far
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: as the pitching matchup is concerned. It is Chris Sale,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the veteran going up against the reigning World Series MVP
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and Yoshinobu Yamamoto. What are you looking forward to the most?
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: Well, it's going to be a great pitching matchup. Looking
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: forward probably most to the crowd. We know it's going
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: to be a great atmosphere at Truist as well. You know,
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: these two guys went head to head I guess it
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: was back in August, and Chris Sale threw a complete
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: game shutout the first time he had done that in
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: about eight years. It was a 1-0 final. Yamamoto threw well.
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: The only run that was scored, the first battery face,
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: was Drake Baldwin. He hit a homer, and that was it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: 1-0 final. So we take a game similar to that
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: if we could here tonight. But there's a lot to
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: look forward to. Obviously, it's a big deal. You split
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: out in L.A., and now it becomes a three-game series
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: with a couple of aces on the mound. It feels
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: like you're facing an ace every night with the Dodgers,
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: but for the Atlanta Braves, they have one true ace,
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: and that's Chris Sale.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: CJ, I'm just going to let you and Alana argue
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: back and forth for the next 10 minutes. So Kratz
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: and I are just going to sit out. I called.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: You took the Chris Sale-Yamamoto game off. I called. It
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: was one of the great pitching matchups I've ever seen.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: First pitch of the game, splitter to Drake Baldwin. Home run.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: That was it. Chris Sale dominated for the rest of
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: the game. Now you and Alana can argue. So go ahead, Alana.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: You guys argue over why the Dodgers and the Braves
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: are Going to have a great game. Go ahead, Alana.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I do think it's going to be a very good
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: game today. All right, I'll ask you this, CJ. The
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Braves beat the Dodgers if?
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: Well, they got to do all the little things right.
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: They got to be able to take advantage of mistakes, right?
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: AJ talked about that one split that sat in the
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: middle of the plate, and that was it, and ended
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: up being the difference in the game. We've seen enough now, right?
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: Postseason games, we understand what happens. It's those biggest moments.
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: It's executing the little things. You saw what a disaster
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: that first inning was yesterday for the New York Yankees.
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: Those kinds of things can't afford to happen. Now, the Braves'
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: defense has been really good, but you just never know
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: what can ultimately show up in a postseason game. I
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: think when you have two pitchers like this, you expect
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: it to be a really tight game. And we never
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: know what that one thing or two things are going
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: to be over a course of a game, whether it's
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: Yamamoto making a mistake, whether it's the Braves doing a
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: good job of driving up His pitch count and trying
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: to get to the bullpen, which struggled in game two
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: against the Atlanta Braves, right? You just never know what
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: it's going to be, but it feels like that this
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: should be a tight one. Now, is the possibility of
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: either one of these starters laying an egg out there?
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: Maybe.
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: It feels like a really small percentage in that happening.
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: So it is something I do think for both of
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: these teams, right? There's names that run deep in both
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: of the lineups, which makes it exciting, right? I think
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: Austin Riley just saw his batting eighth in this lineup
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: here tonight. We know he's capable of doing damage. He's
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: already had a big postseason moment. And you get the
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: same thing with the Los Angeles Dodgers to some degree.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: So I don't know. It's hard to say. Something will happen.
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: We know that. We just have no idea where and
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: who it's going to be.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: You heard it here first. Something will happen. C.J. Nikowski.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Love that.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Chris Sale, you just said, I mean, he's their ace.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Walt Weiss made it incredible. In my opinion, I've praised
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: him ever since he did it, leaving Didier Fuentes in.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Probably two innings longer than any analytical manager will. Is
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Walt Weiss going to have a really tough decision pulling
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Chris Sale whenever he pulls him because of the fact
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: that so much is riding on how Chris Sale does
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: and looking down at that pen, which is really good,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: you probably don't have a better option than Chris Sale.
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean, if he starts to struggle, right, obviously
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: outside of him pitching the whole game, you're expecting that
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: there'll be a pitching change at some point. I think
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: the one thing with Walt is that he has been
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: very aggressive in the decisions he's But he also trusts
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: his eyeballs. You know, that's the one thing that's been
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: really refreshing here in Atlanta compared to, I think, what
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: you kind of alluded to and some of the other
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: managers around the league that have their hands tied to
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: some degree. And they certainly have a game plan going in.
• 38:01
  Speaker 8: I think you're absolutely right. The game plan probably at
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: that point in that Dodger game, too, was that Didier
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: Fuentes was going to give you two and Iglesias maybe two.
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: But you're looking at a guy that's locked in and
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: throwing the baseball well, and Walt decides to ride that out.
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: So I think it's the same thing here with Chris Sale.
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: But he's been really good at picking the moments, understanding
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: when there's an opportunity to win a baseball game. He
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: always seems to be a batter ahead as opposed to
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: a batter behind when it comes to making a decision when.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: You've got to go to the bullpen.
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: And Chris Sale, they were such a good relationship there,
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: and I know AJ knows him better than any of us.
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: talking about him, but the respect that he has for
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: Walt Weiss and any decisions he makes, he's going to
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: back him up. He's going to go with it. There's
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: not going to be any drama there. There hasn't been.
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: Walt has done it all year. Chris Sale has done
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: it all year. When the time is right for Walt
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: to go out and get him, listen, again, it'd be
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: great if we got nine innings out of him, but
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: that's a really difficult thing to do against this lineup
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: in the postseason, and I don't think there'll be much
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: drama behind it.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: CJ, let's hit the offense with the Braves real quick.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: What do they have to do against Yamamoto? He's, listen,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: he's as tough as they come. He's, he's got the
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: pedigree of the post season, everything he's done in the
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: post season. Again, last time he pitched against the Braves,
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: he made one mistake and he pitched really well. What
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: do they have to do to get to him? They
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: got to Blake Snell. They fouled off a ton of pitches.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: They put the pressure on him, right? How did they
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: get to Yamamoto and get him out of the game?
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Because let's be honest, you got to get to the
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Dodger bullpen as fast as possible. Yeah.
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: I think, you know, your odds of driving up that
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: pitch count are going to put you in the best
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: position possible, right? I think with Snell, they did a
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: really good job of showing some patience, which is not
• 39:35
  Speaker 8: the MO of this offense, right?
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: These guys are out there hacking.
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: You look at some of the really important pieces of
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: the Atlanta Braves lineup, and you're going to see some
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: really high chase rates. Michael Harris is very well aware
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: of the fact that he is up over 40% with
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: the chase, but at times it works out well for him.
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: In that game against the Philadelphia Phillies after Aaron Ola
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: walked two, Michael Harris gets ahead in the count 2-0
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: and swings at a pitch that's below the zone.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: It would have been ball three. Instead, he hit it
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: into the chop house in right field, right?
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: So I think understanding where you can go outside of
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: the strike zone against Yamamoto, he certainly has great movement.
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: He does a nice job of getting ahead and then
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: trying to get chase. I think any early chase obviously
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: is something in any situation that you.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: Would like to avoid.
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: Can you find a way to get that pitch count
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: up for a guy who's been so good in the postseason?
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: He clearly knows what he's doing. He's not going to
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: be intimidated by by any atmosphere. So it feels like
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: that would be a key, right? And it seems so
• 40:23
  Speaker 8: simple and it's not when you're facing a pitcher of
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: this caliber, but taking advantage of anything that's in the
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: zone that might look like a mistake. It was one
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: pitch and one time in that last game. And again,
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: it maybe is just a couple of moments where those
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: opportunities are there and you hope that for the Atlanta Braves,
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: they don't miss them.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: CJ, I don't care who it is that anybody is
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: rooting for. You have to absolutely love the story that
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: has become Ray Kerr. Jared Diamond of the Wall Street
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Journal has a beautiful article about how he was living
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: in a tent in his grandmother's backyard. One day his
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: father woke him and his brother up. They kind of
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: left and went to Reno. They fled there. Then he
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: ended up in foster care. He's working at 7-Eleven. He
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: gets $ 2, 000. And now he's a breakout star this postseason.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: This is a guy you root for. It's a beautiful story.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Tell us more about this young man that you've had
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the pleasure of getting to know more than us.
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, he only pitched in nine games, right,
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: in the regular season. We saw him a couple of
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: years ago, and then he had Tommy John surgery. And
• 41:19
  Speaker 8: so he missed significant time, about a year and a half,
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: like most do when they have that surgery. And you've
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: picked up on it now because I think the rest
• 41:26
  Speaker 8: of the country now is seeing these interviews and see
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: the way that he handles himself, and that's not fake.
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: It's always been like that for Ray Kerr.
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: He takes it as it comes.
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: I think he has a completely different perspective maybe than most.
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: You sit there and.
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: Wonder sometimes, okay, well, that first one went really well.
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: The way he pitched in the regular season, it was
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: the same kind of thing as if I'm going to
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: go at guys and let's see what happens. I've had
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: bigger challenges in life than just worrying about trying to
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: get big league hitters out. But it has held so
• 41:52
  Speaker 8: far through two really big postseason starts kind of slash
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: openers where you're not expecting five innings.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: But he has attacked hitters.
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: It doesn't matter if it's been the Philadelphia Phillies or
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: the Los Angeles Dodgers.
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: It's been really fun to watch, right?
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: There's a free and easiness to what Raker does, the
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: way that he lives his life and the way that
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: he attacks the biggest moments.
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: And he enjoyed it, right?
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: I mean, that home game that we had in that
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: game three wildcard, then we came off the mound and
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: waving to the fans and doing the chop and everything.
• 42:17
  Speaker 8: He is completely freed up, I think, because of his
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: life circumstances, because of the background. You know, I'm almost
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: envious of it in some degree.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: When the idea for a guy who was an overthinker
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: throughout his career to see somebody just so completely freed
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: up and have great perspective on how to handle the
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: biggest moments. It's been an absolute joy and a lot
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: of fun to watch him.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: That's so cool.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Is Ronald Acuna Jr. OK? When I watch him run,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: you've seen him the whole year. is there a limp?
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Is there something with his swing? Are they pitching around
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: him and he wants to do too much? Because historically,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: the last few postseasons, and they won the World Series
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: without him, his numbers haven't been that great. But is
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: he okay?
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you know, what's interesting with Ronald with
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: all the lower body issues that he has had, there
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: are times during the regular season where you see him
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: moving and you get a little bit concerned. And then
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: you see him turn it on, you're like, okay, he's fine.
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: I think for Ronald, he understands the moments, right? Because
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: of the multiple injuries that he's had with his lower half,
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: that if the moment does not call for over-the-top hustle,
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: he's been smart about not doing it. This is a
• 43:21
  Speaker 8: guy who is happiest in his life when he's in
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: between the lines. He loves playing baseball as much as
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: anybody that I have ever been around. But I do
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: think he's become a little bit smarter as things have
• 43:29
  Speaker 8: gone on here. And if he needs to let it fly,
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: to take away their phrase here for the postseason, he will.
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: He's been okay in the postseason. He hasn't been the.
• 43:37
  Speaker 8: Superstar yet, but we feel like his moment here in
• 43:40
  Speaker 8: Atlanta is coming soon.
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: Sooner than later. We know he wants it as much
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: as anybody.
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: I think the thing that I've been impressed with him
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: because of that, he's not necessarily become a guy who's
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: pressing either. There are times you're watching at bats and
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: you know he wants to do something big and you're thinking, man,
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: he's going to chase here, and he doesn't. He's been
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: under control. It hasn't happened for him just yet, but
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: that's the nice thing about this roster. You're not relying
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: on one or two guys. It runs really deep. You're
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: getting pitched, of course, as tough as you ever have been,
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: as carefully as you can be here in the postseason.
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: But no, nobody's worried about the health of Ronald Acuna Jr.
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: 's ability to put up big moments here in the postseason.
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: I think they'll still happen for him.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: CJ, Freddie Freeman coming back, Atlanta. Good ovation. It's the
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: playoffs now. I know during the regular season, he always
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: gets a nice ovation. Playoffs, will it be the same
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: ovation that he's gotten in the regular season?
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll see.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: I feel like everyone's kind of over it, right? It's
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: been a while now.
• 44:33
  Speaker 8: The whole Matt Olsen thing, he's just been terrific here Um,
• 44:37
  Speaker 8: that's the least of the concerns when you just kind
• 44:38
  Speaker 8: of think about, um, moves that were made over the years,
• 44:41
  Speaker 8: he certainly is always going to be appreciated here. Um,
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: but at the same time, like you have your guy
• 44:46
  Speaker 8: who's doing an unbelievable job. Now I think of anything,
• 44:48
  Speaker 8: they're probably not thrilled that he hit that home run
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: against Grant Holmes, um, that we saw in game two
• 44:53
  Speaker 8: and he'd been, he'd been ice cold, right? I mean,
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: Freddie had not been doing about well at all. He
• 44:56
  Speaker 8: hadn't a home run in a while.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: Um, but no, I don't think it's going to be,
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: it's certainly not going to be over the top.
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: I can't imagine he's going to step out of the
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: batter's box and, and tip his cap. It doesn't feel
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: like it'd be that kind of moment because quite honestly,
• 45:06
  Speaker 8: every brace fan who's going to be in the ballpark tonight,
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: who likes him and appreciates him would really love to
• 45:12
  Speaker 8: see him fail tonight. So I just don't think it's
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: going to be, um, much of an ovation at this point.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Has the fact that the, whatever it was, one o'clock
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: or two o'clock games that weren't sold out in Atlanta,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: because people have jobs been too blown up in the
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: national media. And will it be completely packed to the
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: brim in Atlanta?
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: It will be.
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: So two o'clock games that we had the first two
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: worked out really nice that in game three, we were
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: the only game and they sold out immediately.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: As soon as that game got pushed back to eight
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: o'clock and we didn't know until one o'clock in the
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: morning when the San Diego Padres finished up their game,
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: the game was immediately sold out. You know, it's unfortunate
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: with game times. We all know how kind of television works.
• 45:52
  Speaker 8: I think we'd all like to see the NCAA format.
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: It's OK to have multiple games going on at the
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: same time, but it is what it is. And that's
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: the way television works. and MLB kind of lay things out. But, yeah,
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: it'll be a good crowd. Obviously, 6 o'clock is a
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: little bit different tonight, so you can leave work just
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: a little bit earlier or hustle to get there if
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: you're getting.
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: Off at 5 o'clock. But, yes, it'll be sold out today.
• 46:12
  Speaker 8: I did see standing room only tickets were all that
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: were left at this point. It's going to be a
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: great atmosphere. How could it not be, right? Chris Sale, Yamamoto,
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: series tied at one. It's the Dodgers, right? They're kind
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: of the evil empire right now. So there are zero concerns.
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: They will come out and watch playoff baseball here in
• 46:27
  Speaker 8: Atlanta tonight. But I'm with you. I mean, the idea
• 46:29
  Speaker 8: of criticism at two o'clock in the afternoon. I know
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: some of the Philadelphia Phillies media was kind of jumping
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: on that when they were here for those two games
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: and saying, well, it would have been sold out in Philly.
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: Maybe who knows? That's something they could think about now.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 46:41
  Speaker 8: The Phillies are done. But it is kind of what
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: it is here. And nobody is overly concerned about it.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: CJ, before I let you go, just any bold prediction
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: you have for the remainder of this series. Put it
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: So I'm not Joey Votto.
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: I don't make huge, big, bold predictions to try to
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: get people's attention so that people then come back later
• 47:00
  Speaker 8: and say, oh, no, you were wrong. That's never been
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: my game. Like for me, right, what we do as
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: analysts is we sit and we look at situations. We think,
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: you know, where are teams going to be strong? What
• 47:09
  Speaker 8: potentially could happen? Who's going to have the biggest moment?
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: But I'm not going to fall into that trap, Alana.
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: I appreciate you trying. But no, I'm not a bold
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: prediction guy.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: Of course, I want to see the Braves win this series.
• 47:19
  Speaker 8: I want to see them win. the next two games
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: and go to the NLC.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: But a bold predictions. No, Chris say we'll be good tonight.
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: That's as bold as I'll get.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Going out on a limb.
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: That's smart because no, because if you would have said
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: the Braves would do something bad, then you can get
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: off the show and we have to listen to Alana's
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: wrath for the rest of the show.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: So honestly, Kratz and I appreciate that more than anybody
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: else out there. Yeah.
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: I learned from Joey Votto really quickly.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I am not nearly the homer that these two think
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I am. CJ, I appreciate you very much. Thanks for
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: being on the show. Best of luck the rest of
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: the way. We appreciate it, my friend.
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: Thank you, and don't ever, ever apologize for being a homer.
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: I don't, and you shouldn't. You got your team. You
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: got your team. It is what it is.
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: It's the joy of being a fan of a major
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: league team and working in media.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: What do you mean it's not my team? What do
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: you mean?
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, now it's your team, so now you're a homer
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: I see a lot.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: I see how it is. Unbelievable.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: It is my team.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Whatever, AJ and the White Sox. And Kratz, you just
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: played for too many of them. You couldn't stick to one.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Thank you, CJ. Make sure to check him out on
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: the Braves podcast tonight. Be sure to tune into our
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: postgame coverage of this game after the game. It is
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Kevin Pillar. It is Heidi Watney. It is who else
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: is on the show? Oh, Todd Frazier, of course. All right,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: we'll be right back.
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: We'll be right back.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: And it's time now to slap hands. This is interesting.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Brian Hoke saying that Aaron Boone said he is considering
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: a lineup change for game three. The Yankees have scored
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: two runs, guys, in the first two games of the ALDS. Apparently,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: they listened to Eric Kratz wanting to change up the lineup. AJ,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: we'll start with you. Not the biggest surprise, probably a
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: better move. What do you think?
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Who do they put in? Who do they put in?
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know who they put in. And they're facing
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: a righty, so who do they put in? They face
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: two righties. They're going to run the same lineup. Kratz,
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: who do they put in? Tell me.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, obviously, you can't have mental mistakes. So,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: to me, you put in guys who you don't think
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: are going to make those mistakes. And that's why Aaron
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Boone gets paid a lot of cash. And I think
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Aaron Boone should be this manager to do this. And
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: he has to make a tough decision tonight, tomorrow morning,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: whenever he makes the lineup. And whoever's out there or
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: whoever's not out there can't have their feelings hurt. Stop
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: with that. Feelings hurt. My feelings are hurt. And I
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: never played in any games because you lose. When you win...
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Like this isn't a regular season. It's
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: not two for four. What's the score? Oh, for four.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: And we won could care less.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: But isn't that the sign of a good teammate too?
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Like you don't care if you're oh four, if your team,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: if you won the game and a bad teammate could go,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: you know, three for three, but the team lost and he,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: and he couldn't care less because he's happy about his
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: own results.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Happy hit guy.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Happy hit guy.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: A hundred percent. You can never be that guy, but
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: you can't just all of a sudden go, oh, it's
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. I was a happy hit guy during the season,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: but now I'm a playoff guy.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: Stop.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: No. You're either there or you're not like you're either
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: all about the W and that matters from one, one
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: to one 62. And then it just happens in the
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: post season. Like it doesn't, you can't go from, ha ha, man,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I got three hits. Oh, I know we lost seven
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: to two, but look at me. I'm going to arbitration.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I'm going to free agency. No, like that, that if
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: that's permeating your, your locker room, I'm not saying it is,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: but you can't be that guy and then turn that off.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Ozzie Gann and Nick Swisher. One day you'll hear that story.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: Someone will tell that story.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Hey, Nick Swisher.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Nick Swisher is going to be the weakest link with
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: pap on Fox.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: But they, uh, they, uh, recorded that many moons ago
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: and I can tell you, I won't do, I won't
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: do any spoilers, but I can just say pap did
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: not fare well.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. The Mississippi state education didn't come through. Uh,
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: By the way, before we go, Kratz, I was walking
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: the streets of San Diego today, this morning, before we
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: came on, and I ran into my A-ball hitting coach
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: who I hadn't seen in, I don't know, 29 years
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: since I was in Florida State League. John Matthews came
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: up to me today. You ever run into an old
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: coach you haven't seen in, like, I don't know, 30 years?
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: You haven't seen him once.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Where would I have seen him? He worked for the Twins.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: He didn't work for the Twins anymore. He's been with
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: the Padres for a while. I ran into him on
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: the streets. We were walking the streets. He was, you know, hey,
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: what's up? He introduced himself. I obviously knew who I was.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: I hadn't seen him in 30 years, but as soon
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: as he said he was, I knew right who he was.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: And I was like, remember that time you got in trouble?
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: You got so mad and got us in trouble for
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: throwing all those balls at the cows in Fort Myers.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: And he started dying laughing.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, yeah.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: I totally remember when all the pitchers were throwing balls
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: at cows at the Lee County Sports Complex because there
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: was cows in the outfield.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: You create so many memories. And you can bring up
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: names like Kenny Joyce, Lee Guterman, my pitching coach in
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: rookie ball and medicine hat, yelling at Jose Salas, Ethan Salas' uncle,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: about throwing baseballs over the fence. Ah, I love those
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: kinds of stories.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: So.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Here's a thing from Joe Madden that was posted yesterday
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: when he was on the show. And AJ, you talked
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: about this earlier, I believe. The game today would rather
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: lose analytically than win based on feel. So then a
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: fan replied, and I'd like your take on this, guys.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Halloween Healthman has this to say. It's a double-edged sword.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: If you make a move based on data or feel
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: and it works, it's because you were right or the
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: data was right. If it doesn't work out, the data
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: is overrated and your gut feeling was wrong. I think
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: a good manager does a healthy mix of both. Eric,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: what do you think about what Halloween Halpin, his response
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: to Joe Maddon's thoughts?
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: I think that's exactly what we've discussed the entire day
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: and what we've said. We've just said it in different words.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: He said this perfectly. Charlie Emanuel would always say when
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: he had good hitters, he'd be like, hey, water level's out.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: He went to Raul Abanez. He's like, Raul, you're 0
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: for 12. He goes, I'm going to move you up
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: in the lineup. And Raul goes, what? Why? He goes,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: because you're about to get hot. I believe in you.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Managers have to be able to do that stuff. You
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: have to be able to see it. You have to
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: be able to look past the result and see the approach,
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: see how it happened. And when we talk about this
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: with analytics, you're talking about building a team or you're
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: talking about managers making decisions. You build a team. You
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: don't have any athleticism. Your team's not going to be
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: able to win in athletic games. Those are all things
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: that go into it. But yeah, you have to know
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: the numbers. If you don't know the numbers, you're cooked.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: It's interesting though, because he goes on to say, if
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: you look at a guy who is 0 for 16
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: against a certain pitcher, one manager will say, don't let
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: him hit. He struggles with this guy, AJ. And another
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: manager will say he's due, who with their whole chest
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: can say which philosophy is correct. I think he's just
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: proving our point, right? Like it's okay to use both.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: You can't rely heavily only on one or the other.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: No, I think what Joe Maddon was saying, and I
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: don't want to speak for Joe because Joe's very smart
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: and has great words. What Joe was saying is managers
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: have a fallback option. There used to be no fallback
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: option for managers. They would make a move and they
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: would have to wear it. Now, when they make a
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: mistake or things don't go the way they would like,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: it's an easy fallback, right? I think that's what Joe
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: was saying. Again, I don't want to speak for Joe,
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: but I believe he was saying when managers mess up
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: or people assume managers make a mistake, they can just
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: point to their chart and say, well, the analytics said
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: it was time to take A or B out or
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: pinch hit A for B. against a certain pitcher. So
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: I think that's what Joe was saying. It used to
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: be a feel thing. Managers had to feel. They learned
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: from their experience. Not necessarily one way is right or
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: the other way is right. It was just Joe saying,
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: now managers have a fallback option.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: This whole conversation reminds me of a conversation I had
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: when I was with the Yankees and the head of
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: the analytical department. I said, you project a player to
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: hit 280 on the season. He hits 190 in the
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: first month. Does that mean your projections say he's going
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: to hit 310 the rest of the way? Because if
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: that's the case, he needs to be moved up in
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: the lineup. Or if you're saying, no, he's going to
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: hit 280 the rest of the way, then the projections
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: are wrong. And you were incorrect with those projections. So
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: that's where the feel, the sight, the look of what
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: the player's doing has to be melded in play. 90% sometimes, 10%
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: other times in the decisions that you make day to day.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: And the playoffs are day to day decisions. You're not
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: going to play 162 playoff games. You might only play
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: three if the Yankees don't figure it out. You might
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: only play three if the Padres don't figure it out.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: So the numbers are okay to be thrown out the
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: window if you are watching the game and seeing what's happening.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Here's something I never thought I would see happen in
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: the postseason or really at all. The lineup for the
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Dodgers game, guys, just came out, and Otani has been
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: moved down in the order. In fact, he is now
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: batting fifth, and Miguel Rojas is his protection. Did you
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: ever think that you would see that, AJ?
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: No.
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: Okay. Good for the– Alana's going to cry. Okay.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: No, I'm glad. I wanted him to move down. I
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: wanted Otani to move down.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Don't cry, Alana.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Yes. Don't cry for me, Alana.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Don't cry for me, Alana Rizzo.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: You're so ridiculous. I like it. I like this lineup.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: At least you and Clint have something to talk about
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: on the postgame now on Dodger territory.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: How dare you.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: That is– and I've said this so many times because
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: I think people just gloss over it because they think, oh,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers just spend so much money. Dave Roberts is
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: an absolute savant. I'm not saying this is going to work.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying if it doesn't work, it's because he
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: moved him down. But Dave Roberts has won the biggest
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: games in different ways. And you can't take Otani out.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: We already talked about this. This is as close as
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: you can get to taking Otani out. Because you know what?
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: He might face a tired Chris Sale the third time through.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: And that might turn advantage Otani. There you go.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Roberts enters Game 3 one win shy of 71 managerial
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: postseason wins, which would tie AJ's boy, Tony La Russa,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: for second most all-time. Joe Torre holds the record, of course,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: with 84. That means you have a lot of good teams.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: It also means it is good at what you do.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: All right, guys.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Next up is Hot Shoot. Yeah. I like Tony.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I like Tony. I thought you were going to say
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Brad Ausmus.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: He's legit, bro.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say Brad.
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: Ausmus, Alana.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: He's legit, bro. Tony's legit, bro. Check out his ring.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: All right, guys. Have a good evening. I'll see you tomorrow.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Don't forget, Hot Sheet is next. All the MLB playoffs
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