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Playboy Model Sentenced in Murder of Renowned Psychiatrist Found Dead in Trunk · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Well, you can only go
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Speaker 1: so far on your looks, right, Well, apparently wrong, because
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Speaker 1: this former Playboy model was accused of a vicious murder
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Speaker 1: of a California psychiatrist, his body found stuffed in the
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Speaker 1: trunk of her Mercedes Bins and somehow Kelsey Turner has
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Speaker 1: managed to skate with just ten years behind bars Awi.
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Speaker 1: I Meancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us here at Fox Nation. And Sirius X
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Speaker 1: one eleven, a former Playboy model sentenced to at least
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Speaker 1: ten years in prison in the last days after she
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Speaker 1: copped a plea in the beating death of a renowned
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Speaker 1: California psychai boy. Apparently she had been milking him for
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Speaker 1: money from the get go. Kelsey Turner, who apparently appeared
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Speaker 1: in Playboy Italia and Maxim, was handed down a prison
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Speaker 1: sentence between ten and twenty five in Clark County, Nevada,
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Speaker 1: for her role in the death of, as I mentioned,
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Speaker 1: the renowned psychiatrist, doctor Thomas Burchard. The doctor who was
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Speaker 1: in and let me just say intimate and him transactional
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Speaker 1: relationship with Turner, was murdered and crammed into Turner's car.
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Speaker 1: Now that's no way to go and no way to
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Speaker 1: be found. And he actually had a longtime love. Now,
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Speaker 1: this woman, the playboy model, had previously taken an alpha plate,
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Speaker 1: which is a guilty plea in which you never actually
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Speaker 1: admit you did it. Now she took an alphred plea
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Speaker 1: to second degree murder, and we've been waiting on the sentence.
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Speaker 1: Prosecutor's claim. Turner twenty nine directed her boyfriend John Kennison
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Speaker 1: to attack doctor Burchard when he came to visit her
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Speaker 1: in Vegas. The boyfriend Kennison reportedly beat a seventy one
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Speaker 1: year old psychiatrist with a bat before the site was
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Speaker 1: stuffed in the trunk. This playboy bunny turn killer was
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Speaker 1: actually driving Mercedes bins. Somebody was giving her a lot
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Speaker 1: of money. But how was this tangled web weaved? And
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Speaker 1: what was a renowned psychiatrist doing hooking up with a
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Speaker 1: playboy etolia model for Pete's sake with a boyfriend? Listen,
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Speaker 1: when did you learn that his body had been found
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Speaker 1: ten days after I had reported him missing? It was
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Speaker 1: that was such a scary time, in those ten days
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Speaker 1: of not knowing, not knowing? Should I you know? How
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Speaker 1: to how to do anything, you know, just that that
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Speaker 1: was scary, the scariest time, really, I think, just the fear,
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Speaker 1: you know, he coming home, and probably about by the
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Speaker 1: day before, about the eighth of the ninth day, I
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Speaker 1: began to realize to myself that he probably wasn't ever
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Speaker 1: coming home, you know, even though I kept hoping and hoping.
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Speaker 1: And then when they called me, you know and told me,
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Speaker 1: which was right before it broke on the news, it
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Speaker 1: was it was just it was devastating, even though I
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Speaker 1: kind of thought I had prepared myself to hear the
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Speaker 1: worst news. You are listening to the psychiatrist, the doctor
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Speaker 1: and the trunks long time love and of course in
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Speaker 1: typical police scenarios they long time love with a suspect
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Speaker 1: number one. But how does a renowned psychiatrist end up
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Speaker 1: dead in the trunk? Who is this guy? Listen? Well,
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Speaker 1: he was out going, He loved his practice, he loved
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Speaker 1: you know, his patience, you know, doing everything for them.
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Speaker 1: Magic was his hobby and he learned that mainly to
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Speaker 1: do magic tricks to kind of engage the children because
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Speaker 1: he was a child psychiatrist. Nowadays, originally they were children.
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Speaker 1: Now nowadays it was a little bit more on the
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Speaker 1: adult side. He had started seeing them as children and
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Speaker 1: um through you know, and continue following them and into
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Speaker 1: their adulthood. That was rather one of when he turned
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Speaker 1: sixty five, he was seventy one, and when he had
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Speaker 1: turned sixty five, he was concerned, you know, worried about
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Speaker 1: his patients that if he retired they would be left
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Speaker 1: with no one or having to start over with a
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Speaker 1: new doctor. And so his idea of retirement was to
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Speaker 1: cut his work week down to four days and take
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Speaker 1: Mondays off. So how does a trip to Vegas fit
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Speaker 1: into that four day work week? That's what I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to find out. Where was she at the time? For
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Speaker 1: a long time love Doctor Thomas Bichard was somehow stuffed
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Speaker 1: in a trunk dead, unless he was killed in the trunk.
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Speaker 1: We're learning a lot about him that speaks volumes with
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Speaker 1: me an all star panel. Troy s Layton, high profile
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Speaker 1: defense attorney joining us out of LA and you can
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Speaker 1: find him at Troy Sleyton. Doctor jin Man, family therapist,
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Speaker 1: marriage therapist, host of Couples Therapy and Family Therapy on
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Speaker 1: vh one, The Doctor Jen Show on Sirius XM, and
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Speaker 1: author of the relationship Fix. You can find her at
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Speaker 1: doctor gen dot com. Doctor Kendall Crowns, Deputy Chief Medical
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Speaker 1: Examiner for Travis County, Texas. That's Austin and senior lecturer,
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Speaker 1: University Texas and of course, forensic sciences Chris Buyer's former
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Speaker 1: police chief John's Creek twenty five years as a police officer,
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Speaker 1: now PI and polygrapher at Chris Buyer's investigations in polygraphs
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Speaker 1: dot com. Alexis Terrescha Crimalline dot com investigative reporter. Quick
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Speaker 1: question to doctor Kendall Crowns, Doctor Crowns, this guy is
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Speaker 1: a psychiatrist. Now just fill me in. In order to
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Speaker 1: be a psychiatrist, isn't it true? You have to become
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Speaker 1: a medical doctor, go through undergraduate four years than what
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Speaker 1: three or four years of medical school, then in turn
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Speaker 1: in your chosen field psychiatry for I guess three or
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Speaker 1: four years after that. How does it work? Yeah, that's correct, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: You get your undergraduate degree, you go to medical school,
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Speaker 1: and then once you graduate, then you choose your residency
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Speaker 1: in psychiatry. I do believe they do a one year
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Speaker 1: internship in internal medicine before they do. I think three
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Speaker 1: years in psychiatry, so four years of internship and how
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Speaker 1: long is medical school? Four years? Troy Slaton, did you
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Speaker 1: hear that we go three years to law school? For
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Speaker 1: one more year? We could have been doctors. Boy, I
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Speaker 1: should have done that. Who told me that I would
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Speaker 1: have been able to make my mother proud? I know exactly?
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what, Troy, You're right? How my
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Speaker 1: mother begged me not to go into criminal prosecution? Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: one more year and of course brilliance, a degree in biology,
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Speaker 1: and a few other things which would have been needed.
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Speaker 1: So this is a psychiatrist that has spent his life
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Speaker 1: in child psychiatry, and it really speaks volumes in my
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Speaker 1: mind to doctor jim Man that he started in child
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Speaker 1: psychiatry and his patients loved him so much. The bulk
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Speaker 1: of his practice is them as they grew up, they
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Speaker 1: stayed with him. It's pretty amazing. And I have to
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Speaker 1: tell you, I remember when I first started out as
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Speaker 1: a therapist. I was working in a mental health clinic
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Speaker 1: and every other intern who came in would come in
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Speaker 1: saying I want to work with children, And within six months,
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Speaker 1: every one of them was like, I can't meet this
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Speaker 1: because it's particularly challenging with a lot of the time
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Speaker 1: you're dealing with difficult family systems and parents who don't
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Speaker 1: want to change, and you know, things that are just
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Speaker 1: really challenging, rebellious kids. So you know, this guy sounds
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Speaker 1: like he was amazingly patient and kind and really cared
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Speaker 1: about his clients. Guys were talking about doctor Thomas Bouchard
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Speaker 1: who ends up after all these years of practicing dead
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Speaker 1: in the trunk of a BMW. Alexis Terreschut Crime Online
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Speaker 1: dot com investigative reporter also with Lead Stories dot Com. Alexis,
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Speaker 1: tell me about the discovery of him and the trunk
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Speaker 1: of a BMW. How long had he been here? Been
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Speaker 1: in the trunk? And I'll just also like to find
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Speaker 1: out from Chris Buyers how ye forensically process a car trunk.
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Speaker 1: But first to you, Alexis, So, he had been missing
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Speaker 1: for about ten days and not related as car was
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Speaker 1: sound abandoned on the side of the road in Las Vegas,
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Speaker 1: in a neighborhood, and it was very clear when you
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Speaker 1: looked inside the car that something had happened. Why would
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Speaker 1: you look in the car if I see a car
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Speaker 1: by the side of the street, I don't get out
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Speaker 1: of my car and go try to look in the trunk.
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Speaker 1: I believe the police were called because it had been
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Speaker 1: abandoned for so many days. Okay, so why didn't they
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Speaker 1: just put a boot on it in a yellow ticket? Well,
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Speaker 1: I think when you see blood in a car, it
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Speaker 1: makes you think something happened. So they saw blood on
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Speaker 1: the interior, right, Yes, there wasn't. Yes, there was blood
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Speaker 1: in the interior of the Alexis are you're giving me
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Speaker 1: a renewed interest for playing t any questions? So the
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Speaker 1: police get called because there's an abandoned BMW. The police
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Speaker 1: get there and in plane view and I am emphasizing
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Speaker 1: those words because I know Troice Slaton is listening. In
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Speaker 1: the veteran defense attorney, plane view has a legal meaning.
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Speaker 1: For instance, if a cop goes by your car, parks
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Speaker 1: on the street, and in plane view he sees a
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Speaker 1: line of coke on the dash, oh yeah, he's she
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Speaker 1: can totally get in your car and impounded and get
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Speaker 1: the evidence. Because they see evidence of a crime, they
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Speaker 1: don't need a search warrant. It is in plane view. Generally,
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Speaker 1: whatever a ordinary citizen and civilian can do, a cop
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Speaker 1: can do without a warrant, agree or disagree, Roice Slaton.
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Speaker 1: And the reason why this is so important is because
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Speaker 1: if the police gather evidence illegally, then it's and all
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Speaker 1: the evidence that flows from that would be fruit of
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Speaker 1: the poisonous tree, and that evidence and everything that flowed
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Speaker 1: from it could be excluded from any criminal trial that follows.
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Speaker 1: All right. For instance, I'd like to give an example
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Speaker 1: when I'm speaking with yourrs. If cops are breaking a
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Speaker 1: home without a warrant and it's not an emergency extent circumstances,
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Speaker 1: and there they find evidence of another crime. Let's just
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Speaker 1: say they find cocaine with a delivery address. They go
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Speaker 1: to that location and find a drug lord. No, you
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Speaker 1: can't arrest a drug lord because the original evidence is
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Speaker 1: fruit from the poisonous tree, an illegal search. He's correct
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Speaker 1: again times stories with Nancy Grace in the Last Days,
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Speaker 1: the former Playboy model sentenced to at least ten years
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Speaker 1: behind bars for the brutal beating of a California psychiatrist
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Speaker 1: and he stuffed in the trunk of her Mercedes Bins.
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Speaker 1: Why did a renowned psychiatrist, highly educated fall for this girl,
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Speaker 1: he had to note at the get go, when she
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Speaker 1: was milking him for money, that she was up to
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Speaker 1: no good. Alexis Terreschut Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter.
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Speaker 1: When they opened the car, tren what alexis well, and
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Speaker 1: they could they could see the blood. There's also been
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Speaker 1: a rock thrown through the window of the car as
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Speaker 1: it was on the side of the road, and so
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Speaker 1: that also is suspicious as well, and thrown into the car,
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Speaker 1: not thrown out. And in the trunk they find the
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Speaker 1: body of doctor Burchard. To you, donder, General Crowns, Jeffrey
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Speaker 1: Chiefs Medical sam Or, Travis County, that's a fine cattlefish.
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Speaker 1: You've got a dead body in the trunk that's been
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Speaker 1: in there in Vegas heat for days and days. What
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Speaker 1: do you do? So the body's probably going to be
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Speaker 1: markedly decomposed, bloating with green discoloration and skin foot Oh well, wait, waite, white, white, white,
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Speaker 1: white white. What you just reeled it all off so quickly.
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Speaker 1: What did you say the first thing you said? In
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Speaker 1: the heat in the trunk, it's going to make the
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Speaker 1: body decompose. You're going to decompose no matter what, but
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Speaker 1: in the heat you're going to decompose more rapidly. So
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Speaker 1: you said markedly decomposed or marginally decomposed, markedly market then
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Speaker 1: I heard something about either green or purple. Yeah, the
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Speaker 1: body will turn kind of a greaming coloration. The skin
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Speaker 1: will start it's slipping off. Then it will start bloating
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Speaker 1: from the decomposition gases. So the body, how the what
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Speaker 1: does a body bloat? Because you have bacteria in your
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Speaker 1: body right now, it's sitting in there kind of kept
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Speaker 1: in check by your body. But once you die, the
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Speaker 1: bacteria no wander has restraint put on it, and then
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Speaker 1: it begins breaking you down. And when it's breaking you down,
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Speaker 1: it starts forming gas. And the gas that form results
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Speaker 1: in the bloating of the body. You know how I
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Speaker 1: always explain it to a jury why a body bloated.
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Speaker 1: I would use a piece of fruit, like a banana
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Speaker 1: or an apple. When it starts to quote go bad,
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Speaker 1: you smell it and it starts looking different, it turns
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Speaker 1: the color. Well, if that's sounding inside your body, those
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Speaker 1: gases and the same ones that make a banana smell
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Speaker 1: are gathering inside your body with nowhere to go, so
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Speaker 1: your body blows. That's a very rudimentary explanation, but that's
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Speaker 1: how I can understand it. Do you think in just
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Speaker 1: ten days after Kennel crowns that there can be an
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Speaker 1: idea of the body or because it's been the trunk,
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Speaker 1: is it so as you say, marketly decomposed, you can't
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Speaker 1: make an id Yeah, so it would be difficult to
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Speaker 1: do a visual idea at that point. You would probably
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Speaker 1: have to rely on fingerprints, and I hope that there
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Speaker 1: was fingerprints available to run them against or then go
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Speaker 1: with dental records or DNA and if there's a presumptive
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Speaker 1: ad to make the identification to Chris Buyer's for em
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Speaker 1: Police Chevy John's Creek at Chris Buyer's investigations a polygraph
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Speaker 1: dot com. Have you ever seen a case like this
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Speaker 1: body in a trunk? Yeah? Absolutely have, And it's as
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Speaker 1: bad in this Georgia heat as it is out there
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Speaker 1: as well. Had one there was in a trunk several
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Speaker 1: days and you know, besides the point of view, you
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Speaker 1: can smell that after several days. I've been to hous
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Speaker 1: Eve an apartment here in Atlanta, and a body's been
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Speaker 1: inside long enough you could smell it from outside the door.
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Speaker 1: How far away can you smell it? I can guarantee
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Speaker 1: if you're standing at the trunk of a car, you
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Speaker 1: can smell it after ten days, because again I've smelled
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Speaker 1: it up front doors and found bodies and living rooms,
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Speaker 1: in bedrooms decomposed. So and if the smell, you'll never forget.
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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that because people have asked me,
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Speaker 1: how do you know you're smelling a dead body? And
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Speaker 1: I always say, you know what. I don't know, but
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Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like, or at least from me,
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Speaker 1: when you see a snake on the side of the street,
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Speaker 1: you immediately know get away from that. How do you know,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, I guess evolutionary instinct.
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Speaker 1: Alexa's terrest check. I'm a little bit embarrassed for you
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Speaker 1: because you did not mention the stinch that must have
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Speaker 1: been coming out of that trunk. Any Coffi's right mine
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Speaker 1: would open it up absolutely. And they you know, they
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Speaker 1: had seen the rocks through the window abandon on the desert.
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Speaker 1: This is not something where it was maybe they didn't
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Speaker 1: think it was a car accident, you know, and the
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Speaker 1: people had gotten in another car and ridden away and
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Speaker 1: just ran to come back later for their car. So
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Speaker 1: while all this is happening a renowned child psychiatrist stuffed
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Speaker 1: in the trunk of a BMW back home. The long
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Speaker 1: Time Love is waiting for doctor Rochard show up. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to this. Well, he was scheduled. He flew
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Speaker 1: there on Friday or March first, and he was scheduled
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Speaker 1: to return the fourth, the following Monday. And I first
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Speaker 1: noticed that there was something wrong on Sunday morning. I
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Speaker 1: spoke with him Friday, and we texted on Saturday, and
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Speaker 1: I began to feel that there was something wrong on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: But I had received a couple of texts in the
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Speaker 1: afternoon that I just knew were not him. You know,
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Speaker 1: She's so right. Everybody has a unique style of writing
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Speaker 1: a text. For instance, I would never write along verbose texts.
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Speaker 1: I try to make it as short and brief as possible,
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Speaker 1: even cutting letters out of words to him, and to
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Speaker 1: make it quick. Well, she knew immediately this was not
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Speaker 1: his style of writing. Listen to what jud tells me.
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Speaker 1: Just the vocabulary wasn't his vocabulary. It was more of
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Speaker 1: an edu came to it. Just it just wasn't him.
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Speaker 1: I could just tell it wasn't him talking or texting
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Speaker 1: me and I said, so, I said, you know, all
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Speaker 1: the time, I don't believe this is you. You need
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Speaker 1: to call me. And then after that the phone did,
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Speaker 1: and early Sunday morning that same day, I woke up
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Speaker 1: very early, about five or so in the morning, just
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Speaker 1: thirty five, just feeling something was really wrong, you know,
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Speaker 1: just kind of scared, more and more scared than anything,
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Speaker 1: and than those checks in the afternoon. It really really
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Speaker 1: raised some flags, and I was worried. I didn't hear
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Speaker 1: from him at all, and I checked and I kept checking,
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Speaker 1: and he had not checked in for his flight. Worried.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. It's called routine evidence. And again
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Speaker 1: I don't mean that it's run of the mill or
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Speaker 1: typical or stereotypical evidence, but evidence of someone's routine. I
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Speaker 1: like to call it behavioral evidence. Troy Layton, of course, you,
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Speaker 1: as an expert defense attorney, can't slice all sorts of
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Speaker 1: holes in this. But when someone has a routine. For instance,
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Speaker 1: I get up every morning, I packed the children's snacks,
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Speaker 1: I loaded the car to take them to school, I
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Speaker 1: get my mom's breakfast ready. I start looking at crimes
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Speaker 1: all across the country, and then I enjoy cleaning out
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Speaker 1: the guinea pig cage. That is a routine that has
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Speaker 1: strictly followed. If I were to suddenly decide, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go to the hair salon, or I'm
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Speaker 1: going to go to an early morning eatery and not
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Speaker 1: take my children to school this morning, that would be
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Speaker 1: contrary to a routine, right it would, and that would
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Speaker 1: be admissible evidence of someone's routine or habit is admissible
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Speaker 1: in order to show their conformity therewith and any deviation
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Speaker 1: from that could be important evidence for a jury. Of course,
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Speaker 1: a defense of journy like yourself can slice it up
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Speaker 1: like Thanksgiving turkey, because just because you have routained asn't
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Speaker 1: mean you're always going to follow it absolutely and and
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Speaker 1: and certainly that would be important and compelling evidence for
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Speaker 1: a jury. And someone can certainly argue that that there
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Speaker 1: is no textbook on the way that's telling you. I
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Speaker 1: was just waiting for you to pull that out of
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Speaker 1: the moth balls. There's no text If there is no
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Speaker 1: textbook for the way that somebody is supposed to act,
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Speaker 1: especially when somebody is paying for somebody else to uh
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Speaker 1: to have a luxury apartment for somebody that they're not
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Speaker 1: married to prime stories with me. It's a grace. Ex
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Speaker 1: playboy model Keltzy Turner finally sentenced and a renowned psychiatrists slaying.
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Speaker 1: This doctor, doctor Thomas Burchard, had helped so many people
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Speaker 1: in his life, A very well known psychiatrist in California.
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Speaker 1: He gets tangled up with his playboy model and he
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Speaker 1: ends up dead, stuffed in a car trunk. What happened?
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Speaker 1: Listen to the Long Time Love g d Earl Monday.
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Speaker 1: I still hadn't heard from him, and his flight was due,
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Speaker 1: I think around one forty, and so I decided to
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Speaker 1: go to the airport to meet the plane. He had
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Speaker 1: his card, you know, in the long term parking lot there,
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Speaker 1: but I still I went with my son to meet
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Speaker 1: the plane. I I discot something was wrong and I
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Speaker 1: needed to, you know, and I watched every single person
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Speaker 1: come off the plane, and it wasn't him. And by
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Speaker 1: this time I'm very, very concerned, and I speak with
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Speaker 1: the gate agent and they checked and he had never
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Speaker 1: checked in for his flight, and he wasn't on the flight.
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Speaker 1: And then I knew something was, you know, just horrible.
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Speaker 1: I going to aunt to ask did he explain why
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Speaker 1: he was going to Vegas for three days. Listen, some
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Speaker 1: of it was business business? What kind of business? Lands
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Speaker 1: you dead? And the trunk of a BMW? I mean,
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Speaker 1: doctor jen Man, I'm all for trust. In fact, my
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Speaker 1: husband was out of town right now. He had to
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Speaker 1: go on a business trip for guess what three days?
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Speaker 1: Oh you know what. It just keeps going through my head,
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Speaker 1: the three hour tour from Gilligan's Island. Why is there
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Speaker 1: was three Something that's something for me to think about
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Speaker 1: in all my spare time. So, doctor jen Man, when
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Speaker 1: do you start checking out what your husband's doing? And
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Speaker 1: when do you decide not to worry about it? But
24:05
Speaker 1: I think when your gut instinct says, oh, something's wrong.
24:08
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in listening to the gut instinct.
24:12
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sure we've all read Gavin de
24:14
Speaker 1: Becker's book The Gift of Sphere, where he talking about
24:17
Speaker 1: that gut instinct tends to be based on a thousand
24:20
Speaker 1: different things that are unconscious mind picked up. That was
24:24
Speaker 1: actually concrete evidence that we haven't fully made sense of.
24:27
Speaker 1: And I think that when your gut goes something doesn't
24:30
Speaker 1: feel right, that's when you start checking it. Because our
24:33
Speaker 1: guts tend to be pretty on target when we listen
24:37
Speaker 1: and gem And did I ever tell you about the
24:39
Speaker 1: time I read my husband's email just for the fun
24:41
Speaker 1: of it. I thought I was going to die. Oh cool, Never,
24:46
Speaker 1: that's a good again, it was awful one business email
24:51
Speaker 1: after the next. Oh, it's like reading a tax audit.
24:55
Speaker 1: Long story short, What business does this guy, a psychiatrist
25:00
Speaker 1: have in Vegas? To you? Alexas Terreschuk? Wasn't his practice?
25:05
Speaker 1: Wasn't it in California? In practice was in California. He
25:08
Speaker 1: had been to Vegas several times for large medical conferences.
25:13
Speaker 1: Did you say conferences? Now right there? The hair on
25:18
Speaker 1: the back of my neck just goes up, because isn't
25:21
Speaker 1: it true? Chris Buyers, your former police chief, twenty five
25:25
Speaker 1: years on the force. Now you're a PI and I
25:28
Speaker 1: bet you do a lot of divorces. How often have
25:31
Speaker 1: you heard he went to a conference? Please? Oh? Yes,
25:38
Speaker 1: the conference starts lots of problems, for sure. A lot
25:42
Speaker 1: of conferences. Sometimes there's not even really a conference. That's
25:45
Speaker 1: why you have Google ladies to look up and find
25:48
Speaker 1: out if there's a conference. So sometimes he goes for conferences,
25:53
Speaker 1: but we find out a lot more was going on
25:56
Speaker 1: in Vegas. Take a listen. He had helped a lot
26:00
Speaker 1: of women, a lot of people, you know, men and
26:02
Speaker 1: women with you know, they were down on their lock
26:08
Speaker 1: or you know, he would help them to pay their
26:11
Speaker 1: rent or their car payments, or get the medicine that
26:16
Speaker 1: they needed. Um, you know, rather than going through and
26:20
Speaker 1: I told them, you know, lots of times he probably
26:22
Speaker 1: would be better off, you know, going through a charity bit.
26:25
Speaker 1: Now he would directly help them make sure that, you know,
26:28
Speaker 1: they got what they needed. So hold on just a moment,
26:32
Speaker 1: Alexis Rush, Chuck, He's not just going to Vegas for
26:36
Speaker 1: a medical conferences. I'm so glad you tell me about
26:40
Speaker 1: the medical conferences. What do you mean by quote helping
26:45
Speaker 1: a lot of women, such as with car payments or
26:50
Speaker 1: rent sounds like a honey trap. I would usually use
26:57
Speaker 1: the word sugar daddy in this case. This would be
26:59
Speaker 1: a wealthy older man taking care of younger women, beautiful
27:03
Speaker 1: younger women, And that seemed to be the case here.
27:07
Speaker 1: He was paying for multiple women, and she did. His
27:11
Speaker 1: fiance and long term partner said that there were men too,
27:15
Speaker 1: but that he was very, very generous with his money.
27:18
Speaker 1: He had plenty of money. He'd worked as a doctor
27:21
Speaker 1: for forty years in California, was very wealthy and was
27:26
Speaker 1: very generous with things that he paid for other people.
27:29
Speaker 1: Usually that's called a sugar daddy. You know. Troice Layton,
27:34
Speaker 1: veteran criminal defense attorney joining me out of LA. Do
27:38
Speaker 1: you remember the time in your career that you totally
27:41
Speaker 1: realized you were jaded? Because when I hear of this
27:45
Speaker 1: renowned psychiatrist helping beautiful, young, glamorous playboy playmates, I immediately
27:55
Speaker 1: think the worst. Well, he certainly can't accuse him of
27:58
Speaker 1: not being a sophisticated individual where he didn't know what
28:02
Speaker 1: he was doing. In fact, statements from his long time partner,
28:09
Speaker 1: Miss Earp, say that when when she confronted him with
28:14
Speaker 1: the over three hundred thousand dollars that he had spent
28:20
Speaker 1: over the year, Yeah, I choked on that that he
28:23
Speaker 1: said he knew what he was doing and he could
28:26
Speaker 1: afford it, so he would I get that figure right?
28:29
Speaker 1: Three hundred thousand dollars, three hundred thousand dollars, And so, Nancy,
28:34
Speaker 1: this was not a person who didn't know what he
28:38
Speaker 1: was doing him. He was obviously I don't know that
28:40
Speaker 1: I was a sophisticated just because you've got an MD
28:43
Speaker 1: at the end of your name. If you're supporting women
28:47
Speaker 1: in Vegas to the tuna three hundred thousand dollars. As
28:50
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I don't think that's smart at all,
28:53
Speaker 1: Doctor jen Man. I have a friend, Well, let me
28:58
Speaker 1: sign acquiance has a wonderful marriage, leaves the wife because
29:05
Speaker 1: he falls in love with a stripper who then uses
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Speaker 1: him to pay her children's private school, and then when
29:15
Speaker 1: they all graduate, she dumps him. By this time, he's
29:18
Speaker 1: lost his marriage, he's lost his stockbroker traitor certificate, he's
29:25
Speaker 1: gone bankrupt, and he's living in the basement of a
29:30
Speaker 1: college fraternity brother when we believe and ever learn, Yeah,
29:37
Speaker 1: I see things like this all the time. You know,
29:40
Speaker 1: one of the things which wrong with you people Kendall Crowns,
29:43
Speaker 1: Chris Buyers and Troy's Clayton. Do you think the stripper
29:46
Speaker 1: is in love with you? Never mind? No, I don't
29:49
Speaker 1: think the stripper is in love with me personally. I've
29:52
Speaker 1: never been to a strip club my wife for twenty
29:55
Speaker 1: five years. Yeah, God bless you, and I've only been
29:59
Speaker 1: to strip clubs um with a subpoena in my hand.
30:03
Speaker 1: Looking for somebody. And I also went in the daylight
30:06
Speaker 1: hours and they're really nasty with delights on. But that's
30:10
Speaker 1: a whole nother cannon ORMs. What is wrong with these people?
30:13
Speaker 1: Jin Man? No? They what Crowns what I said? No
30:20
Speaker 1: one wants to get infotago. I mean, you know, skin
30:23
Speaker 1: surface infections. My goodness. Those strip clubs, I'm sure are
30:25
Speaker 1: very unclean. Who wants to go in there? Now, there's
30:28
Speaker 1: a true expert. He can work in a skin condition
30:31
Speaker 1: into a stripper on a pole. Okay, go ahead, jin Man,
30:35
Speaker 1: thank you, doctor Crowns. Jen what is wrong with these men? Well,
30:39
Speaker 1: I think that you know, I remember a friend kind
30:44
Speaker 1: of like you were saying, an acquaintance that I that
30:47
Speaker 1: I want to knew who was having an affair with
30:50
Speaker 1: a much younger woman, and what he kind of said.
30:52
Speaker 1: When I see myself reflective in this young, much younger
30:57
Speaker 1: woman's eyes, I feel young. And I think that a
30:59
Speaker 1: lot of these men who make choices like this, our
31:04
Speaker 1: guys who are feeling the clock ticking, they're feeling they're
31:08
Speaker 1: getting older. Alexis Urez Chuck is one of the women
31:13
Speaker 1: that he was helping, named Kelsey Turner. Yes, and guys,
31:20
Speaker 1: Kelsey Turner, is she or is she not a playboy playmate?
31:25
Speaker 1: Alexis she has a playboy model. There's a little bit
31:28
Speaker 1: of a difference between the two, and I say potato.
31:33
Speaker 1: So you're telling me there's a difference between a playboy
31:35
Speaker 1: playmate and a playboy model. Or guess what they don't
31:39
Speaker 1: teach that at law school. Take a listen to our
31:41
Speaker 1: cut seventeen. This is a friend of Kelsey Turners named
31:46
Speaker 1: Logan Kennison speaking to our friends at Access Hollywood reducing
31:59
Speaker 1: Tom brush Hard was Kelsey's sugar daddy. I told him,
32:08
Speaker 1: I said, you know, like thinking might be taking advantage
32:11
Speaker 1: and he said, well that's okay. I can afford it.
32:15
Speaker 1: But none of them life this Kelse Turner, Kelsey Turner.
32:21
Speaker 1: It's my understanding. Less terres Chuck. They renowned psychiatrist is
32:24
Speaker 1: playing not only for an apartment, but at home for
32:26
Speaker 1: her and Selena's gip. He was, and he had given
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Speaker 1: her money cash over the years, not just a little amount,
32:35
Speaker 1: like hundreds of thousands of dollars just to her. Boy,
32:38
Speaker 1: that is some friend. Take a listen to our cut ten.
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Speaker 1: This is our friends at k SBW. Kelsey Turner no
32:46
Speaker 1: stranger to posing for the camera, now posing for her
32:49
Speaker 1: criminal mug shot. Accused of brutally beating a man who
32:53
Speaker 1: Peter rent and showered her with money about three hundred
32:56
Speaker 1: thousand that I know about, and possibly more, possibly more well,
33:03
Speaker 1: take a listen to ks n VNS three Vegas Our
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Speaker 1: Cut fourteen. The suspect is twenty five year old Kelsey Turner.
33:12
Speaker 1: She was listed as a public figure on Instagram, a
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Speaker 1: model and actress with more than one hundred thousand followers.
33:20
Speaker 1: What is her relationship with the victim? There is a relationship.
33:23
Speaker 1: At this point, the investigation is extremely active and ongoing,
33:27
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to get into any specifics regarding them.
33:30
Speaker 1: A man who knew the doctor tells the NBC station
33:33
Speaker 1: in Monterey Burchard was paying the rent on this home
33:36
Speaker 1: in California where Turner, her kids, and her mom once lived,
33:41
Speaker 1: and was giving them cash and he were from two
33:44
Speaker 1: to four thousand a week easily. He told me. He
33:47
Speaker 1: met Kelsey on the website and met up with her,
33:50
Speaker 1: and they talked, and they went and had dinner a
33:53
Speaker 1: few times, he says. Eventually, Turner and her family were
33:56
Speaker 1: evicted when Burchard stopped paying rent. She moved to Las
34:00
Speaker 1: Vegas and Burchard went to check on her. Now Turners
34:03
Speaker 1: in jail accused of killing him. So he's not only
34:07
Speaker 1: paying for her house in Selena's her apartment, but for
34:10
Speaker 1: her whole family to live there. We'll take a listen
34:13
Speaker 1: to what we learn from KSBWR cut thirteen. Let neighbors
34:17
Speaker 1: say the actual incident occurred at a residence in the
34:20
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Valley and then the body was found out
34:23
Speaker 1: by the lake. That home we initially suspected was on
34:26
Speaker 1: Puritan Avenue in Las Vegas. That's based on this arrest
34:30
Speaker 1: record from earlier this year. Then boyfriend arrested for domestic
34:35
Speaker 1: violence the victim, Turner, with her address listed. I went
34:39
Speaker 1: to that home Monday, neighbors confirming with me. Police have
34:42
Speaker 1: been to the home several times in the last month,
34:45
Speaker 1: including a CSI unit as recent as this past weekend.
34:48
Speaker 1: The home also matches the neighborhood in Turner's arrest Warren.
34:51
Speaker 1: According to that warn't, Las Vegas police say inside the
34:54
Speaker 1: home they found Burchard's keys, his vest, and blue latex
34:58
Speaker 1: gloves like the I found in the garbage can. Outside
35:01
Speaker 1: of the home. Police also found cleaning supplies blood, a
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Speaker 1: broken door with blood on it, and towels, the same
35:08
Speaker 1: towels that matched the ones in the car with Burchard
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Speaker 1: Turner's two door BMW. There was blood on the passenger seat,
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Speaker 1: the back seat, and in the trunk. That's where Brochard
35:17
Speaker 1: was found with wounds that left a unique pattern on him.
35:20
Speaker 1: So what do you do with that choice? Lytton, veteran
35:23
Speaker 1: trial lawyer. Matching towels? Isn't that quiet? The coincidence the
35:27
Speaker 1: towels found in the BMW with the dead body and
35:31
Speaker 1: all the blood matched the towels in the home. I
35:33
Speaker 1: would look at who else had access to the home.
35:37
Speaker 1: If I'm defending this playboy model and her boyfriend, I
35:43
Speaker 1: would want to also know who else was there, and
35:47
Speaker 1: we certainly know that she had roommates in that Las
35:52
Speaker 1: Vegas home. Your incredible weren't the only really are incredible? Next,
35:55
Speaker 1: you're going to blame the mailman that delivers the mail.
35:58
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say, hey, hey, anybody
36:00
Speaker 1: could buy those towels at Macy's. There's absolutely no connection whatsoever,
36:04
Speaker 1: you know, Chris buyers for em Police Chief John's Creek.
36:08
Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing? How after someone is found dead in
36:12
Speaker 1: another location, someone else turns into a neat nick at home.
36:16
Speaker 1: All the bleach, the cleaning supplies, the latex gloves. It's amazing,
36:21
Speaker 1: isn't it. It just inspires you to what clean your
36:23
Speaker 1: bathroom and buy any shower curtain? Yeah? Absolutely, it is
36:26
Speaker 1: funny how that happens. And you know, one of the
36:28
Speaker 1: things that they just said in that last clip, that
36:31
Speaker 1: was Turner's car he was found in. I don't believe
36:33
Speaker 1: we had touched on that before, so led right back
36:36
Speaker 1: to that house and for it to be cleaned up
36:38
Speaker 1: so nicely, that does raise some serious questions. Kelsey Turner,
36:42
Speaker 1: playboy playmate or as Alexa stresscheck says playboy model. Well
36:47
Speaker 1: the boyfriend that you are hearing, Chief Chris Buyers referred
36:52
Speaker 1: to John Logan. Kennison decided to speak out. Take a
36:58
Speaker 1: list to our cut night and our friends at Access Hollywood.
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Speaker 1: When they searched the house, they found blood and cleaning supplies.
37:06
Speaker 1: What do you think happened? According to Penia, Turner and
37:12
Speaker 1: Kennison instructed her to clean the house while Thomas waited
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Speaker 1: in Turner's car hoping to be taken to the hospital.
37:18
Speaker 1: She claims it was the last time she saw Thomas alive.
37:21
Speaker 1: Kania subsequently played guilty to accessory to murder to Alexis Rushchuk.
37:26
Speaker 1: Who is Pinia. She is the roommate. She's a roommate
37:29
Speaker 1: who also lived in the house with Kelsey and her boyfriend.
37:33
Speaker 1: So Kelsey Turner and boyfriend. I wonder how the psychiatrist
37:36
Speaker 1: felt about that, the boyfriend, John Logan Kennison. They come
37:41
Speaker 1: home with a lot of cleaning supplies and say clean
37:43
Speaker 1: up pronto, and apparently she does well. Take us to
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Speaker 1: our cut eighteen. This is Logan Kennison again, right or
37:53
Speaker 1: wrong speaking to access Hollywood. Can you just walk me
37:56
Speaker 1: through the day as you remember it. Kennison claims that
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Speaker 1: at some point during the gathering, an altercation occurred between
38:04
Speaker 1: the couple's roommate, Diana Penya and Thomas. Did you leave
38:13
Speaker 1: in Kelsey's car? How do you think that Tom's good
38:19
Speaker 1: body ended up in the trunk of Kelsey's car. You're
38:25
Speaker 1: saying Diana killed doctor Brusher. Sounds like Troy Slayton. They
38:36
Speaker 1: took a page out of your book. Who's left standing?
38:38
Speaker 1: The roommate blame her, but she took a cheap deal
38:43
Speaker 1: a successory. So where does that leave the playboy playmate
38:47
Speaker 1: and the lover pointing the finger at her? She obviously
38:51
Speaker 1: took a deal in order to save her own skin,
38:57
Speaker 1: So I would argue that she can't be trusted. She can't,
39:04
Speaker 1: she can't she pled guilty. You want to trust the
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Speaker 1: playboy playmate sleeping with a with a psychiatrist with a
39:09
Speaker 1: boyfriend into we have somebody who pled guilty to accessory
39:13
Speaker 1: to murder and exchanged her truthful testimony in exchange for
39:18
Speaker 1: a sweetheart deal. You know I'm not so shamed about
39:21
Speaker 1: in her skin? Can correct me? Tell me again? Troice Layton?
39:25
Speaker 1: Whose car was he found in? He was found in
39:28
Speaker 1: the Playboy playmates? I bet that her to spit it out?
39:32
Speaker 1: Didn't it? Um? And how is he sleeping flame somebody? Nancy?
39:38
Speaker 1: If I wanted to frame somebody, where would I want
39:40
Speaker 1: to put some Only does the roommate, with no motive
39:43
Speaker 1: at all, hide the dead body? Oh? She now thinks
39:46
Speaker 1: of framing her roommate. Okay, hold on, let me think
39:51
Speaker 1: this thing through. So if the roommate did it, why
39:55
Speaker 1: didn't Kelsey Turner reported to nine one one, um, thank scared? Scared? Scared? Yes, okay,
40:03
Speaker 1: sar fitting together. So Alexis terres shut, what's the evidence
40:07
Speaker 1: against the playboy playmate? Excuse me model? Well, the evidence
40:10
Speaker 1: is is that the roommate was there in the house
40:15
Speaker 1: and she said that doctor Burchard was Actually she didn't
40:19
Speaker 1: see it happened, but he was somehow hit in the
40:22
Speaker 1: head and he was bleeding at their house, and so
40:25
Speaker 1: she said, and he said he needed to go to
40:27
Speaker 1: the doctor. And so she saw him get in the car,
40:31
Speaker 1: and she saw Kelsey and her boyfriend Logan get in
40:34
Speaker 1: the car, and that was the last time that she
40:37
Speaker 1: saw the doctor alive. Quick couple of questions. Alexis terrest
40:41
Speaker 1: think of this as a lightning round. Who was a
40:45
Speaker 1: doctor sleeping with Kelsey Kelsey Turner? He was paying for Kelsey,
40:50
Speaker 1: and he was paying for her house and was paying
40:51
Speaker 1: for a car. I don't know that he was necessarily okay,
40:55
Speaker 1: So he was paying for her house and Selenas and
40:57
Speaker 1: her apartment and her BMW car payment, but yet not
41:01
Speaker 1: sleeping with her, okay, And who had he just cut
41:07
Speaker 1: off financially? Kelsey Kelsey, a former playboy model sentenced to
41:12
Speaker 1: at least ten years in prison. In the last days
41:15
Speaker 1: after she copped a plea and the beating death of
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Speaker 1: a renowned California psychiatrist. Take a listen to our friends
41:24
Speaker 1: at Fox. A former playboy model learned her fading court
41:27
Speaker 1: today for killing a California psychiatrist under a plea deal.
41:31
Speaker 1: Kelsey Turner was sentenced to ten to twenty five years
41:34
Speaker 1: in prison. Turner pleaded guilty to second degree murderer in
41:38
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen deadly beating the doctor Thomas Burchard. She
41:42
Speaker 1: entered what is known as an Alfred plea meeting. She
41:45
Speaker 1: only admitted that prosecutors had enough evidence to prove her guilt.
41:49
Speaker 1: Birchard's body was found in the trunk of an abandoned
41:52
Speaker 1: car near Lake Mead. Ten to twenty five. They'll let
41:56
Speaker 1: her out early, I guarantee you. What a shame, What
42:02
Speaker 1: a shame. Nancy Gray signing off, goodbye friend.