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Memphis 'LIVE-STREAM KILLER' SHOOTS 7, Smiles for Camera · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. They Memphis live stream shooter
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Speaker 1: holds the entire city and a grip of fear, gutting
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Speaker 1: down one victim after the next at random the entire time,
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Speaker 1: live streaming his murder rampage. I'm Nancy Grace. This is
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at
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Speaker 1: Fox Station in series M one eleven. First of all,
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Speaker 1: take a listen to our friends at w r EG.
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Speaker 1: Police were on the lookout for a gunman who just
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Speaker 1: appeared to be traveling across the city in a car,
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Speaker 1: randomly shooting people and occasionally stopping to change that car
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Speaker 1: for another vehicle, carjack someone, shoot them, and then move
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Speaker 1: on their way. They started off in Frasier at an
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Speaker 1: auto zone where we saw this suspect onbook live calmly
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Speaker 1: walk into that AutoZone, raised his revolver and then shoot
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Speaker 1: someone who he encountered as he first walked in. Then
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Speaker 1: he apparently got into that vehicle. Police believe he went
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Speaker 1: to I two forty at the Millennium Market where he
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Speaker 1: apparently shot someone just at the gas pumps, someone who
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Speaker 1: is just there to get gasoline. So someone who had
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Speaker 1: just walked into the autoparts store for autoparts at AutoZone.
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Speaker 1: Now someone's just getting gas. And then a random woman
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Speaker 1: apparently who he saw on two forty sheets in the hospital,
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Speaker 1: we're told in critical condition. And then he needed a
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Speaker 1: new vehicle. So he decides to carjack someone at Poplar
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Speaker 1: and Evergreen, shoots that person who's live and their family's
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Speaker 1: life has forever changed. Makes his way perhaps into South Haven,
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Speaker 1: where he carjacked someone at a raceway. That's how it
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Speaker 1: all starts. What we know right now, seven people have
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Speaker 1: been shot. Take a listen to police director of Cyril
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Speaker 1: and C. J. Davis. Listen. On September seventh, twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 1: at twelve fifty six am, officers responded to his shooting
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Speaker 1: in the thirty one hundred block of Lyndale Avenue. Officers
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Speaker 1: located a male victim in the driveway. The mail was
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Speaker 1: pronounced deceased on the scene. The homicide suspect was known
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Speaker 1: as Zeke Huncho. He was later identified as Ezekiel Kelly,
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Speaker 1: nineteen years old. At four thirty eight pm, officers responded
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Speaker 1: to his shooting in the nine hundred block of South
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Speaker 1: Parkway East. Officers located a male victim and his vehicle
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Speaker 1: with multiple gunshot wounds. He was pronounced deceased on the scene.
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Speaker 1: Video surveillance at the business revealed a blackmail pulled up
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Speaker 1: next to the victim in a gray Sedan. The suspect
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Speaker 1: fired multiple shots and fled south on College Street. At
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Speaker 1: four forty pm, officers responded to a shooting at Norris
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Speaker 1: Road and Interstate to forty. Officers located a female victim
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Speaker 1: with a un shot wound. The suspect fled in a
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Speaker 1: dark color sedan eastbound on Norse Road. We are read
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Speaker 1: the very latest on the as he's being called the
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Speaker 1: live stream killer out of Memphis joining me an all
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Speaker 1: star pala But first I wanted to go to special
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Speaker 1: guests joining us Jonathan Sire, Fox Music correspondent. You find
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Speaker 1: him at Twitter at Jonathan Sire. Jonathan, thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. How did the whole thing start? Well,
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Speaker 1: it started early Wednesday morning, around one am. They found
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Speaker 1: the body of a twenty four year old man. He
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Speaker 1: had been shot and killed and in his driveway. And
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Speaker 1: at the time police just assumed this was an isolated incident,
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Speaker 1: a singular homicide. Ye, Jonathan, you said, the first victim
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Speaker 1: that we know of was shot in his driveway, correct, correct, Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: go ahead, and so police thought that this was an
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Speaker 1: isolated incident. Things were relatively quiet until you had all
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Speaker 1: of those other shootings unfold in the late afternoon. And
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Speaker 1: it was that live stream where the gunmen went into
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Speaker 1: the auto zone that some concerned viewers watching that live
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Speaker 1: stream called police and they were able to link the
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Speaker 1: man in that video to the suspect that they had
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Speaker 1: in the original shooting. And that's when police thought to themselves,
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Speaker 1: we got a serial killer. Hey, Jonathan, Siria, I'm really curious.
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Speaker 1: So the first shooting was in the am, correct, it was?
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Speaker 1: It was around one am Wednesday morning, one am? And
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Speaker 1: that is a guy in his driveway? What part of town?
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Speaker 1: All of these shootings took place in different parts of
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Speaker 1: the city. That's all I needed to know right there, Jonathan.
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Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out if the shootings are
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Speaker 1: isolated to one area, but this guy is in a
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Speaker 1: vehicle going everywhere. Yeah, they took place all over Just
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Speaker 1: like police believed his victims were randomly selected, it appears
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Speaker 1: where they occurred were all over town, and so people
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Speaker 1: were terrifying. Okay, hold on Jonathan's Sirie, This is reminding
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Speaker 1: me so much of the DC sniper. At that time,
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Speaker 1: I was living in New York and going back and
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Speaker 1: forth to DC working with Larry King. And every time
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Speaker 1: I got off the airplane and stepped out at the
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Speaker 1: airport to grab a cab to get down to Larry
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Speaker 1: King's studios and then get back out of the cab,
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Speaker 1: I was thinking, you know who's next? Is it me?
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Speaker 1: Isn't the cab driver? Because the victims were at random,
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Speaker 1: the locations were at random, you had no idea what
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Speaker 1: was going to happen next. So you got the guy
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Speaker 1: in the driveway around one am. And I was thinking
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Speaker 1: about this guy in an auto zone. And the reason
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about him, Jonathan Sirie Jonathan joining I saw
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Speaker 1: a Fox Needs correspondent. The reason I'm thinking about the
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Speaker 1: auto zone guy is because it's so drastically different m
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Speaker 1: MOS operandi messive operation wise than shooting somebody in their
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Speaker 1: driveway or a drive by shooting. He actually doesn't he
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Speaker 1: get out of the car, And how does the AutoZone
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Speaker 1: shooting go down? So he's streaming on Facebook live making
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Speaker 1: all of these angry comments and you see him just
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Speaker 1: walking up. It's like a point of view. Sometimes you
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Speaker 1: see his face, sometimes you see his point of view.
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Speaker 1: He opens the door, lifts his handgun, and you see
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Speaker 1: a man with a frightened look on his face and
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Speaker 1: in the differ and he opens fire, and you hear
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Speaker 1: the gunshots, and this man was critically injured. I'm just
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Speaker 1: thinking about a guy. My nephew put himself through college
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Speaker 1: the whole year, four years working at autozonn all kind
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Speaker 1: of crazy morning, late nine hours, doing anything they asked
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Speaker 1: him to do. And here's the guy just minding his
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Speaker 1: own business working at AutoZone, and in comes the live
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Speaker 1: stream Memphis Killer. Guys, take a listen again to the
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Speaker 1: police director C. J. Davis Our cut five At five
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Speaker 1: fifty nine officers responded to his shooting in the four
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Speaker 1: thousand block of Jackson Avenue. Ezekiel Kelly was on Facebook
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Speaker 1: live when he opened fire inside the store. Officers located
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Speaker 1: a mill with a gunshot woman. He was transported to
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Speaker 1: the hospital in critical condition. At six to twelve pm,
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Speaker 1: we received information from a concerned citizen that suspect was
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Speaker 1: on Zeke Huncho's Facebook live, stating that he was threatening
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Speaker 1: to cause harm to citizens. At this time. The Memphis
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Speaker 1: Police Department launched a citywide search for the assailant and
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Speaker 1: they are blasting it out on social media as well
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Speaker 1: the entire city and a grip of fear with a
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Speaker 1: random shooter gunning people down and live streaming it as
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Speaker 1: it happens. We go from North Street and Jackson Avenue
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Speaker 1: to Poplar Avenue and North Evergreen. There in MeVis take
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Speaker 1: a lesson. At seven twenty three PM, officers responded to
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Speaker 1: a shooting at Popular Avenue in North Evergreen. A female
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Speaker 1: who had been shot was located on the scene. The
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Speaker 1: suspect took the victim's vehicle, a Great SUV, and fled
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Speaker 1: the scene. At seven twenty four, officers responded to a
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Speaker 1: shooting at Popular Avenue in North McLean Boulevard. A male
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Speaker 1: victim who had been shot was located and transported to
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Speaker 1: the hospital non critical. At eight fifty five PM, officers
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Speaker 1: responded to the eight hundred block of West Rains regarding
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Speaker 1: a shooting. Officers located one female victim on the scene
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Speaker 1: with gunshot wounds. She was pronounced deceased on the scene.
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Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace to doctor Angela Arnold, renowned
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Speaker 1: psychiatrists joining us out of the Atlanta jurisdiction at Angela
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Speaker 1: Arnold MD dot com. Doctor Angie, this is your town, Memphis.
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Speaker 1: Where are these places? What the hey is going on
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Speaker 1: in Memphis? Well, I'll tell you I don't know, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: My husband and I've been talking about this all morning.
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Speaker 1: I will tell you that between Frasier is not close
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Speaker 1: to Poplar and McLean. Okay, Frasier is like an outlier
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Speaker 1: in Memphis. It's it's it's sort of what you would
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Speaker 1: consider a suburb, and then Poplar and McLean gets you
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Speaker 1: closer to the to the insight, to like midtown Memphis. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so this guy was traveling around. That's what I wanted
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Speaker 1: to hear. That's what I wanted to hear. So none
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Speaker 1: of these victims, it seems like, are connected in anyway.
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Speaker 1: Back to Jonathan Seri, Fox Music correspondent joining us, the
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Speaker 1: victim don't know each other. We don't think they're connected
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Speaker 1: to the shooter. And they're all over Memphis, including out
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Speaker 1: in the suburbs. Is that correct, Jonathan Syria, That's correct.
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Speaker 1: They were all over and that's why police put out
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Speaker 1: that alert telling people to stay in their homes and
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Speaker 1: if they were already out to shelter in place, and
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Speaker 1: people were frightened in the Midtown restaurant district, people eating
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Speaker 1: on outdoor patios. The restaurant staff, Oh yeah, I'd leave
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Speaker 1: that cheeseburg you're on the plate and get the hay
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Speaker 1: out in there. Jonathan Syria would exactly. Hey, Daryl Cohen
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Speaker 1: joining me, high profile lawyer in the Atlanta jurisdiction, former
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Speaker 1: prosecutor Daryl Cohen. The last time I recall this happening
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Speaker 1: was when the Fulton County courthouse shooter escaped and the
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Speaker 1: APD were blasting it. Everybody go in, everybody get off
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Speaker 1: the street. This guy is out. And as it turned out,
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Speaker 1: at the time they were blasting, who's about three blocks
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Speaker 1: away from where I was. I had just flown down
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Speaker 1: from New York at that time, and this guy was
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Speaker 1: wandering around, took a woman hostage. Do you remember that,
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Speaker 1: Daryl Cohen? I remember when he took the hostage. I
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Speaker 1: remember when he killed the customs officer in the Tony
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Speaker 1: part of Atlanta. I remember a judge, my court reporter
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Speaker 1: and my judge, Roland Barnes, and many others. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: I remember it well. That is so scary when it
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Speaker 1: goes out a social media radio, TV, get inside and
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Speaker 1: state in psy because the cops can't figure out any pattern,
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Speaker 1: any methodology of what the live stream Memphis killer is doing.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen out to Joe Brian ABC. Nineteen year
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Speaker 1: old Ezekiel Kelly is accused of driving around the city,
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Speaker 1: shooting and killing four people, wounding three others, all while
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Speaker 1: streaming the violence on Facebook Live. In a Facebook video
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Speaker 1: that's now been removed, the suspect was reportedly seen walking
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Speaker 1: into an autoparts store and opening fire. Police saying the
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Speaker 1: spree lasted more than two two hours, spanning eight different
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Speaker 1: crime scenes. Please say. Kelly later stool a car at gunpoint.
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Speaker 1: The massive manhunt paralyzing Memphis into the evening, Residents urged
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Speaker 1: to stay home. Bus service was suspended, and a minor
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Speaker 1: league baseball game placed on lockdown. Please say. This all
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Speaker 1: began around one am Wednesday, where Kelly is accused of
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Speaker 1: shooting and killing a man in the driveway of a home.
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Speaker 1: Straight back out to Jonathan Sirie joining us on the
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Speaker 1: same Fox News correspondent Jonathan Sirie, So they don't know
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Speaker 1: how to connect him to any victims. They don't know
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Speaker 1: where he's going next, but I understand from what you're
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Speaker 1: telling me, at least one of the shootings was to
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Speaker 1: get a new car and keep going. Yeah, one of
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Speaker 1: the shootings was to was part of a carjacking, and
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Speaker 1: then there was another separate carjacking where the victim was
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Speaker 1: not injured. So at least two separate carjacking incidents as
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Speaker 1: he tried to elude authorities. I'll never forget the first
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Speaker 1: carjack martyr case I tried. I went to the scene
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Speaker 1: and it was a teen. It's almost to man, he's
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Speaker 1: like nineteen years old, lying dead in the driveway, and
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Speaker 1: neighboroo come over and put a pillow under his head
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Speaker 1: as he was dying for his car. And I remember
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Speaker 1: standing there thinking he's dead over a car. But this guy,
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Sirie, was shooting not to get the cars. That
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Speaker 1: was not his purpose at all. I think although the
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Speaker 1: state doesn't need to prove a motive, I think it's
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Speaker 1: got something to do with live streaming it. It seemed
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Speaker 1: like he was taking salacious pleasure in this based on
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Speaker 1: that live stream, and other than that one fatal car jacking,
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Speaker 1: there really did not appear to be any fest motive
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Speaker 1: or any logical reason that he would shoot any of
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Speaker 1: these people, even for a criminal reason. What were the
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Speaker 1: victims doing at the time they were shot, Jonathan Sirie.
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Speaker 1: It runs the gamut. They were everyday people doing everyday things.
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Speaker 1: That one and in the autoparts store, a woman at
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Speaker 1: a gas station, a man in his driveway. From what
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Speaker 1: police are saying, it appears that they were just going
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Speaker 1: about their daily lives like it were any other day
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Speaker 1: until their lives were suddenly cut short cruelly. You know,
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Sarah, Just your words to me, just your words
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Speaker 1: are scary. They're true. It's not like you're in a
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Speaker 1: high crime area. It's not like you're doing anything nefarius,
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Speaker 1: like buying dope or shooting up in your car outside
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Speaker 1: a you know, a street dope seller spot. I mean,
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Speaker 1: these people were just having their regular life when out
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Speaker 1: of the blue, along comes Ezekiel Kelly may he rot
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Speaker 1: in Hell. And there was no warning to these people.
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Speaker 1: A lot of this was happening before the police were
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Speaker 1: connecting the crimes, Jonathan, and they didn't realize the same
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Speaker 1: person was going all over Memphis gunning down innocent people.
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Speaker 1: So they couldn't even sound the alarm at the get go, Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 1: And then when you had that rash of shootings in
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Speaker 1: the late afternoon, everyone in Memphis is asking themselves, are
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Speaker 1: just people going crazy? Are multiple shooters running loose on
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Speaker 1: the city? And then police tied it to this one gunman.
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Speaker 1: And understand, Nancy, that this city had already been on
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Speaker 1: edge because of the murder of Eliza Fletcher, the beloved
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Speaker 1: teacher and mother who was out jogging during the pre
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Speaker 1: dawn hours on Friday, minding her business, doing her regular routine,
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Speaker 1: when suddenly this man drives up in an suv, forces
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Speaker 1: her in it, and eventually murders her. And they did
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Speaker 1: make an arrest in that he saying, just as it
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Speaker 1: seemed that the city was tying the ends on this tragic,
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Speaker 1: tragic murder, suddenly not just one other murder, but multiple
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Speaker 1: murders going on in this city. You know, Johnathan See,
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Speaker 1: I'm so glad of your phraseology. I'm glad you put
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Speaker 1: it that way, because if I hear one more person say,
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Speaker 1: why was Eliza Fletcher out jogging at four o'clock in
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Speaker 1: the morning, I'm gonna chew a nail and a half.
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Speaker 1: You know what, I get up very often at four
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Speaker 1: thirty quarter to five, to get so much done before
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Speaker 1: I take the children to school, before I get into
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Speaker 1: the studio. It's the only way to do it. So
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Speaker 1: it's somehow her fault she's out jogging at four o'clock
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Speaker 1: in the morning. It's not why shouldn't she and these
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Speaker 1: people as well. I mean, you know why I think
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Speaker 1: people do that, Jonathan, And of course I'm not as shrink.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure Angie Arnold is chopping it in the bit.
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Speaker 1: But I think people try to blame the victim because
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Speaker 1: it makes them feel better and more secure themselves, like, Hey,
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Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen to me, because I'm not gonna
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Speaker 1: jog at four o'clock in the morning, or I'm not
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Speaker 1: gonna be in this area, or I'm not gonna do
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Speaker 1: X y Z, so I'm safe. I think that's why
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Speaker 1: they attack the victims. We all want to say, it
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Speaker 1: can't happen to me, Nancy. I jog at four thirty
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Speaker 1: in the morning. I live in a somewhat dangerous part
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Speaker 1: of Atlanta, but I feel like it is my right
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Speaker 1: to jog in the morning, just as it should be
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Speaker 1: anyone's right, regardless of whether they're a man or a woman.
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Speaker 1: Jonathas sirih, do you live in Midtown? I used to
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Speaker 1: live in Midtown. Now I'm in the East Atlanta area. Okay.
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Speaker 1: I lived in Midtown the entire time I was prosecuting
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Speaker 1: behind Marymax High traffic area, high crime area. Okay. Back
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Speaker 1: to Jonathan's Sirie and to the Memphis live stream killers.
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Speaker 1: He is being called what more do we know about
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Speaker 1: this guy? Take a list of Jessica Gertler w r G.
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Speaker 1: I hope you're sitting down. So they've been looking through
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Speaker 1: our Shelby County Justice System portal, and we can tell
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Speaker 1: that there's an Ezekiel Kelly listed the data birth matches,
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Speaker 1: the age police gave us, and based on that record,
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Speaker 1: we see a case from February third, twenty twenty, meaning
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Speaker 1: he would have been a juvenile when this happened, and
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Speaker 1: he was transferred to adult court. Now, the charges were
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Speaker 1: two criminal attempts first degree murder, aggrated assault, a gun charge,
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Speaker 1: and reckless endangerment. Again, this would have happened when he
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Speaker 1: was a juvenile. He transferred and it looks like he
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Speaker 1: pleaded guilty for a lesser charge. In twenty twenty one,
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Speaker 1: Now this doesn't list any details for us of what
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Speaker 1: exactly happened. He pleaded to a lesser charge in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty one, he got three years, and somehow is already
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Speaker 1: out my rear end twenty twenty. Okay, he's nearly twenty
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Speaker 1: right now, that was two years ago. He was eighteen
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Speaker 1: or almost eighteen at the time. He what Jonathan Sirie
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Speaker 1: has a lot of definitives. I prosecuted, like to say,
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Speaker 1: he caught a murder attempt, he caught a murder charge.
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Speaker 1: What what? Agg assault? Gun charge, reckless endangerment, first degree murder,
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Speaker 1: two criminal murder attempts and he's out in eleven months?
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Speaker 1: Johnathan Series, Did I get that right? Got that right? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: He played guilty to the lesser sentence of aggravated assault
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Speaker 1: and sentence to three years, only served eleven months. The
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Speaker 1: mayor's fury. Oh blah blah blah. The mayor's furious. Why
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Speaker 1: is it when he furious last week the same crap
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Speaker 1: was going down, But now you got seven gunshot victims
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Speaker 1: and now he's curious. I mean, I'm glad he's furious,
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Speaker 1: Johnason Serie. But when a politician acts furious, I think
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Speaker 1: that's just their way of getting reelected. No offense, Mayor,
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Speaker 1: But you know what talk is cheek, do something, do
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Speaker 1: something about it, Mayor. Okay, Daryl Cohen, have at it.
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Speaker 1: It is not the victims fault. But victims need to
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Speaker 1: have their heads on a squibble. They need not to
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Speaker 1: jog at four thirty, Good morning. Can you get off
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Speaker 1: Eliza and get on what we're talking about right now?
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Speaker 1: Get with it. We're on the mental sime stream shooter.
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Speaker 1: He's gutting down people like the DC snipers. Okay, they're
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Speaker 1: just getting gas. They're just at almost different because the
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Speaker 1: DC sniper was trying to hide himself until he was
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Speaker 1: finally apprehended. This guy has a need for publicity. This
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Speaker 1: guy is absolutely crazy and by killing and is not
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Speaker 1: crazy vicious. What I want to know is how the hey,
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Speaker 1: this guy's out in eleven months on that rack of
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Speaker 1: charges he brought down on himself two years ago. That's
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Speaker 1: when that went down. Eleven months he's out. Wow, is
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Speaker 1: anybody's surprise? Jonathan Siri? You know there is so much
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Speaker 1: frustration over sentencing right now. In this case is going
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Speaker 1: to create a national discussion on sentencing reform, at least
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Speaker 1: when it comes to violent criminals, Do these people deserve
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Speaker 1: a second chance? Se converse, same as the first honey,
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Speaker 1: you're preaching to the choir. A national debate. Okay, can
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Speaker 1: you even imagine Congress having a national debate on this?
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Speaker 1: People are getting gunned down. They're gonna kill like flies
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Speaker 1: while Congress sits on their rari ends and there's nothing.
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Speaker 1: If you want people to stay in jail, you have
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Speaker 1: to build jails, you have to be able to house them.
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Speaker 1: The population has skyrocked. It so has the jail population.
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Speaker 1: There's nowhere to put them. So they're getting out like
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Speaker 1: a revolving door. And people are okay with that. People
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Speaker 1: that are in power, not the people that are being
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Speaker 1: gunned down. They're not down with it. But politicians are
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Speaker 1: all fine with it. Maybe somebody will hear the Memphis mayor.
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Speaker 1: But if I put money on it, I tell you'll
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Speaker 1: be back to business as usual next week, like these
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Speaker 1: seven people were never shot. Okay, we're talking about Ezekiel Kelly,
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Speaker 1: a one man crime wave, the so called livestream Memphis
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Speaker 1: serial killer. Take a lesson to police director C. J. Davis.
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Speaker 1: Memphis police officers fight at the Dodge Challenger northbound on
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Speaker 1: Interstate fifty five from State Line Road, a high speed
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Speaker 1: pursuit began. The pursuit terminated at Hide Road and Ivan Road.
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Speaker 1: The mail driver, identified as Ezekiel Kelly, was taken into
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Speaker 1: custody without incident by the Memphis Police Department in the
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Speaker 1: Shelby County Sheriff's Office. Two weapons were visible inside the
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Speaker 1: vehicle where Kelly was. The Homicide Division and other investigative
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Speaker 1: units are actively working these crime scenes now and numerous
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Speaker 1: felony chargers are pending. Okay, Jonathan's Herry Fox News correspondent
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Speaker 1: joining us. So he only stopped when there was a
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Speaker 1: high speed chasing, he craft? Is that what went down? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: And they had the bolo out for the vehicle because
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Speaker 1: he had stolen it and in the second carjacking, so
23:01
Speaker 1: they knew exactly what vehicle they were looking for. Ended
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Speaker 1: after the high speed chase and after all that violence,
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Speaker 1: they apprehended him without incident, and one of the local
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Speaker 1: news stations obtained a photo of him in the back
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Speaker 1: of a squad car smiling at the camera. So let
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Speaker 1: me understand, Jonathan, Siri, he's in here? Is what now?
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Speaker 1: Third car? He finally is in a high speed chase.
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Speaker 1: How did he get in the high speed chase? Well,
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Speaker 1: police were looking for a vehicle, the last vehicle that
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Speaker 1: he had carjacked, and then I don't know if officers
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Speaker 1: spotted the vehicle or if they got a tip from
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Speaker 1: someone on the highway they spotted it. When he realized
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Speaker 1: they were following him, he sped up, and so that's
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Speaker 1: how it became the high speed chase, which apparently ended
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Speaker 1: in a minor crash. You know what's amazing, Jonathan Siri,
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Speaker 1: If you hadn't thought of this already, just watch it
23:52
Speaker 1: as you go about your illustrious career. The good people
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Speaker 1: get killed, and the a hole somehow match to live like.
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Speaker 1: He has a minor crash and he gets out and
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Speaker 1: he's smiling, I mean, like a big old beauty contest,
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Speaker 1: Miss congeniality. Smile for the cameras, for the cameras speaking,
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Speaker 1: and for the cameras of what exactly was he live streaming?
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Speaker 1: What portions of his murder rampage was he streaming? So
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Speaker 1: the portion on the live stream was where he was
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Speaker 1: walking into that business, the auto zone, and just making
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Speaker 1: some violent commentary as he was walking in. Lots of
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Speaker 1: expletives and then he goes in the store and you
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Speaker 1: see him confronting this man in the distance, pulling up
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Speaker 1: his handgun and and opening fire. And it was just
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Speaker 1: it was probably, well, actually, I don't want to compare
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Speaker 1: it to any of the others. I'm sure they were
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Speaker 1: all shocking. It's just that this one happened to be documented.
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Speaker 1: And he ranting. What was he ranting about? What's his problem?
25:01
Speaker 1: Jonathan Sirie. It didn't make sense. He was saying things
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Speaker 1: like this is the real deal. It seems more like
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Speaker 1: he was craving attention rather than he had any kind
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Speaker 1: of a coherent manifesto. And again, his victims just randomly targeted.
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Speaker 1: In one case that a woman was killed and it
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Speaker 1: appears that her children were nearby, just wailing. I didn't
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Speaker 1: know that, Jonathan Siria. You just told me something else.
25:26
Speaker 1: I didn't already know one of the women that he
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Speaker 1: shot that her children were there. Yeah, we couldn't confirm
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Speaker 1: that it was the children, but there were children there.
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Speaker 1: They were wailing, and it was kind of assumed by
25:38
Speaker 1: many on the scene that they were clothes to her,
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Speaker 1: probably her children. It appeared that they had a very
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Speaker 1: strong connection to her. Jonathan Sirie joining me from Fox News.
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Speaker 1: I often wonder how I'm gonna put the foot next
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Speaker 1: foot ahead of me after I work cases like this,
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Sirie, you gotta keep going, man. Let me quickly
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Speaker 1: go to Joe Scott Morgan, professor forensic Jackson State University
26:06
Speaker 1: and author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon Strava,
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Speaker 1: and you hit serious body. Back to Joe Scott Morgan
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Speaker 1: on iHeart and Beyond. Joe Scott, just thinking back to
26:18
Speaker 1: cases I've handled where there've been multiple victims, multiple locations,
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Speaker 1: multiple crime scenes, primary, secondary, tertiary crime scenes. Okay, we
26:29
Speaker 1: just imagine this, Joe Scott Morgant, in your worst nightmare,
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Speaker 1: that this live stream is suppressed somehow, or we lose it,
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Speaker 1: or it doesn't come into evidence. How in the h
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Speaker 1: E double l Can you tell me we're going to
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Speaker 1: prove this case based on the crime scenes? Hit it? Well? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that that video is not going to be lost. I've
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Speaker 1: seen it in other locations yet. Okay, go ahead, that's
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Speaker 1: what you think, right, I just watch you think. No,
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Speaker 1: I go ahead, I know that it won't. Let's just
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Speaker 1: pretend in the real in the real world, where somehow
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Speaker 1: things get lost in the evidence room. Just tell me
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Speaker 1: how I can prove this case without the video. I
27:13
Speaker 1: love the video. That'd be Stay's Exhambitt number one, but
27:16
Speaker 1: you got to have a backup plan, a plan B.
27:18
Speaker 1: So what's the plan B? How can we prove this
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Speaker 1: without the video? Well, it's using obviously the same weapon
27:23
Speaker 1: as he's moving from scene to scene to scene. So ballistics, yes, ballistics,
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Speaker 1: So the rounds that pass through these poor people, these
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Speaker 1: innocent victims, can all be tied back to that weapon. Also,
27:37
Speaker 1: in addition to that, all of the spent ammunition, the
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Speaker 1: spent brass that will be laying back, those are going
27:42
Speaker 1: to have particular strations on them that you can identify.
27:46
Speaker 1: And also the weapon itself. You know, you begin to
27:48
Speaker 1: think about how did he come into contact with this weapon?
27:52
Speaker 1: From whom did he purchase it? And you look at
27:55
Speaker 1: stuff like the provenance of the weapon, you know, from
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Speaker 1: where did it emerge? Whose hand can you put to it?
28:01
Speaker 1: Who purchased the weapon? That sort of thing is also
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Speaker 1: going to be and then you know he's jumping from
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Speaker 1: multiple vehicle to multiple vehicle perpetrating these things. His DNA,
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Speaker 1: his fingerprints, those things that are unique to him, are
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Speaker 1: going to be found in each one of those vehicles. Yeah,
28:19
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a slam dunk case for a prosecutor.
28:23
Speaker 1: It's evidence rich. But about fingerprints off of a fired
28:28
Speaker 1: shell tasting a potentially sometimes it's a hit or miss proposition.
28:33
Speaker 1: You can get it, but you have to keep in
28:35
Speaker 1: mind as well that when that fingerprint is transferred onto
28:41
Speaker 1: the surface, that smooth brass surface, it's a heated environment.
28:46
Speaker 1: During that, you know, the explosion of the round going off,
28:49
Speaker 1: and that can be compromised as well. And plus you
28:51
Speaker 1: don't know you know, fingerprints are generated, they're left behind
28:54
Speaker 1: this result of transfer fatty lipids from the fingertips. So
28:59
Speaker 1: if he has dry skin, for instance, sometimes you won't
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Speaker 1: him be able to recover a print. People think that
29:04
Speaker 1: you're going to recover print every time I was a
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Speaker 1: gate and that's not necessarily always be time stories with
29:23
Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Okay, so we're gonna have ballistics matchup because
29:30
Speaker 1: when you shoot bullets EI the same gun and this
29:32
Speaker 1: guy clearly took MMO with him. Just imagine that. Everybody,
29:36
Speaker 1: what about that intent right there? Daryl Cohen, former prosecutor
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Speaker 1: now civil attorney. Daryl Cohen. He had to take the
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Speaker 1: gun and the AMMO from car to car to car,
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Speaker 1: and he would carjack this car, then that car, then
29:50
Speaker 1: that car. He had to take his weapons and his
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Speaker 1: AMMO with him. There is intent. Really might as well
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Speaker 1: have intent mensrehea malice of thought written stamped on his forehead, Nancy.
30:02
Speaker 1: He had intent written all over his body. He had
30:06
Speaker 1: viciousness all over his body. He needed the publicity. He
30:11
Speaker 1: is vicious and you know what. He went to I believe,
30:15
Speaker 1: two gasoline stations and committed those crimes. If you think
30:20
Speaker 1: the price of gas is high, the price that he
30:23
Speaker 1: is going to pay will be even higher. Hopefully he
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Speaker 1: had two weapons. Uh. Dave mac is Dave McK with
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Speaker 1: us Crime online dot Com Investigeta reporter Dave Mack. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for joining Jonathan's serie. Dave, didn he have two
30:35
Speaker 1: weapons in the car? He did from everything we understand
30:38
Speaker 1: at this point, although they're not releasing a lot of
30:41
Speaker 1: the information that will be coming out, but yet he
30:44
Speaker 1: apparently had two weapons and he had ammunition. As you
30:47
Speaker 1: just pointed out, I understand he was posting the whole
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Speaker 1: time under the name Zeke Hansho, who the he is
30:54
Speaker 1: Zeke Hanscho ke Hancho was his Facebook handle, Yeah, his handle,
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Speaker 1: and that's where it was Zeke Huncho, and that they
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Speaker 1: were able to find out at the very first shooting
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Speaker 1: that happened at twelve fifty six am, that was where
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Speaker 1: the beginning of the Zeke Huncho and then actually identifying
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Speaker 1: him correctly as Zeke Gilkelly Zeke Huncho. Well, it's not
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Speaker 1: the first time that a killer has live streamed their
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Speaker 1: own crimes. Take a listen to our friends at CBS,
31:33
Speaker 1: and this is about the Buffalo shooting that took so
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Speaker 1: many minority lives. Listen. The widely popular live streaming service Twitch,
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Speaker 1: which is owned by Amazon, has confirmed it was their
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Speaker 1: service the suspect used to live broadcast to shootings. Officials
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Speaker 1: say from the moment the suspect, eighteen year old Peyton Gendron,
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Speaker 1: pulled into the Tops Market parking lot, he was live
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Speaker 1: streaming what he was doing. He exited his vehicle. He
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Speaker 1: was very heavily armed. He had tactical gear, he had
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Speaker 1: a tactical helmet on. He had a camera that he
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Speaker 1: was live streaming. Officials believe the camera was attached somewhere
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Speaker 1: on that tactical gear Gendren was wearing. Twitch, the service
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Speaker 1: he was live streaming on, has removed the suspect's channel,
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Speaker 1: and in a statement, a spokesperson says, we are devastated
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Speaker 1: to hear about the shooting that took place this afternoon
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Speaker 1: in Buffalo, New York. Our hearts go out to the
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Speaker 1: community impacted by this tragedy, which has a zero tolerance
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Speaker 1: policy against violence of any kind. Let me get a
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Speaker 1: straight out to doctor Angela Arnold joining me out of
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Speaker 1: the Atlanta jurisdiction from growing up in Memphis, Doctor Angie.
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Speaker 1: The Buffalo shooter claimed multiple lives and he had multiple
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Speaker 1: gun just like the Memphis live stream shooter. He actually
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Speaker 1: attached the camera to himself so he can catch every
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Speaker 1: minute detail of his mass murders. What is that so, Nancy?
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Speaker 1: These people are they are craving attention and if they're
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Speaker 1: not going and they want the notoriety of what they're doing, okay,
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Speaker 1: And I think that that's why we have copycats. That's
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Speaker 1: why when these people are mass murdered and there's on
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Speaker 1: the TV and we keep bringing up Eliza Fletcher who
33:29
Speaker 1: was found just the other day, don't you have to
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Speaker 1: wonder if there were some sort of copycatting going on
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Speaker 1: with this guy and mephist He saw this other perpetrator
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Speaker 1: get all of this attention, and now maybe he was
33:42
Speaker 1: maybe he wanted some attention, because it's very interesting to
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Speaker 1: me how these come in the same town on the
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Speaker 1: heels of each other. Yes, you know another thing, What
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Speaker 1: about that big smile he put on in the back
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Speaker 1: of the cop car. What was that? He got the
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Speaker 1: attention he wanted and it was very pleasing to him.
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Speaker 1: But let's not confuse that with insanity, because that does
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Speaker 1: not make him insane. I am quite sure that there
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Speaker 1: are people thinking, oh, well, he's just as crazy as
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Speaker 1: a betsy bug, he's insane. That is not an indication
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Speaker 1: that he is insane. Oh no, no, no, he was
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Speaker 1: very pleased with what he did, and he was getting
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Speaker 1: the attention that he craved because, for all we know,
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Speaker 1: he was watching everything that was going on a few
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Speaker 1: days ago and he wanted a piece of that action.
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Speaker 1: Daryl Cohen joining me former prosecutor nothing but felonies in
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Speaker 1: same office with me now device attorney. You can find
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Speaker 1: him on Twitter at Daryl beat Cohen. Darryl. You know
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Speaker 1: what I love? I love mug shots. I love them,
34:51
Speaker 1: and I love photos taken at the scene. Have you
34:54
Speaker 1: seen these two photos of the Memphis live stream shooter.
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Speaker 1: He's got the biggest smile, like freaky big smile in
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Speaker 1: the back of the squad car. But then in his
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Speaker 1: mug shot he's got a smile. What did they call
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Speaker 1: the guy, Jackie? He was a felon and everybody else
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Speaker 1: thought he was really good looking. Then he went and
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Speaker 1: stuck up a relationship with a millionaire's daughter. Oh, they
35:21
Speaker 1: called him the hot felon. Right, hot felon Jeremy something
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Speaker 1: that's supposed he's striking opposed Daryl Cohen, and I absolutely
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Speaker 1: cannot wait wait for a jury to see him smiling
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Speaker 1: after he has gunned down seven Memphis innocent civilians. One
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Speaker 1: working at auto zone like my little nephew, somebody getting
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Speaker 1: into their car and the driveway, somebody getting gas, a
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Speaker 1: woman with her children. That, yeah, how's that gonna look?
35:56
Speaker 1: Darryl Cohen, I think it's wonderful. Nancy, he convicted himself
36:01
Speaker 1: when the prosecutor shows one of those photos and then
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Speaker 1: the second one to the jury, and the argument is,
36:08
Speaker 1: not only did he do this, but he loved what
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Speaker 1: he did, so let's love him back and give him
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Speaker 1: the death penalty. Let's love him back and see that
36:17
Speaker 1: we gave him more than he gave us, because he
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Speaker 1: has ruined not just the victim's lives, but their families lives,
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Speaker 1: and they will never ever be able to forget this, never,
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Speaker 1: So let's get even and do more to him than
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Speaker 1: he did to them. I don't know if there is
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Speaker 1: any way to get even, because I know, as a
36:41
Speaker 1: convict in myself, your life will never ever be the same.
36:47
Speaker 1: Seven people have been shot him. Iphis a mother, dad,
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Speaker 1: a child, somebody's child. You never make a comeback from that.
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Speaker 1: You might trudge forward in life and may find a
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Speaker 1: way to not think about it every single day. I
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Speaker 1: don't think we can ever fully pay Ezekiel Dejeon Kelly back.
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Speaker 1: If it's any consolation to anybody, I predict he'll have
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Speaker 1: a choice, ultimately, the needle or the cham Goodbye for