Latest / Kenny For Real / Anthony Davis Traded To The Wizards
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It has happened again, Ladies and gentlemen, a mediocre to
- 0:03Speaker 1: bad team put some chips on the table to go
- 0:06Speaker 1: get a star. Yesterday it was Jarons Jackson Junior to Utah.
- 0:10Speaker 1: They were a sixteen win team. They just traded a
- 0:11Speaker 1: first round pick at the first round pick at the
- 0:13Speaker 1: first round pick for James Jackson Junior. And today the
- 0:15Speaker 1: Washington Wizards, who have thirteen wins on the season, just
- 0:19Speaker 1: traded for Anthony Davis. Those who trades are parallel, and
- 0:23Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about all the similarities because I think
- 0:24Speaker 1: it's kind of showcasing what the hell that second aper
- 0:27Speaker 1: can really do to team building. Yeah, but the trade
- 0:30Speaker 1: ends up being Anthony Davis, Jaden Hardy, D'Angelo, Russell, Dante
- 0:33Speaker 1: Exam to the Wizards for Chris middle to a j
- 0:35Speaker 1: Johns who continues to ge flipped at the deadline of
- 0:37Speaker 1: every year for Zimbia career Malachi brand and Marvin Bagley.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Two first round picks and three seconds. Those first round
- 0:42Speaker 1: picks end up being the thirtieth pick in this year's draft.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Because it's okayse He's a twenty thirty protected Warriors pick,
- 0:48Speaker 1: which we don't know if the protections are on that
- 0:49Speaker 1: right now, at least, Shampson tweeted, but that could be
- 0:52Speaker 1: an interesting pick, right it's the Warriors in four years.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Who the hell knows what a foty year old forty
- 0:56Speaker 1: one year old Steph Curry's gonna be doing. And then
- 0:58Speaker 1: the second end up being one from Phoenix, borthrom Chicago
- 1:01Speaker 1: wing from Houston. Very very interesting, ridiculous deal, and you
- 1:04Speaker 1: can see, you can see what the plan is for
- 1:07Speaker 1: the Wizards. You acquire Trey Young, right, And in my
- 1:09Speaker 1: mind that was a no brainer. Even before that trade happened.
- 1:11Speaker 1: I was like, hey, the only new team that might
- 1:13Speaker 1: be interested in Trey Young was a Wizards, and they
- 1:15Speaker 1: ended up being the team acquire him because it cost
- 1:17Speaker 1: them nothing. It was CJ McCollum, who y'a didn'tally care
- 1:19Speaker 1: about anyway. It and Corey Kisper, who had been there
- 1:21Speaker 1: from the start of his career, but like, come on, man,
- 1:23Speaker 1: he was like the seventh man on the team with
- 1:25Speaker 1: thirteen wins, you know, so this wasn't really important. And
- 1:27Speaker 1: then you bring in a guy who, like in theory,
- 1:30Speaker 1: would help Alex Sar because Alex Sar hasn't played with
- 1:33Speaker 1: a point guard just yet you get Keishawn George. Maybe
- 1:37Speaker 1: I don't know. Actually I don't know how to fit
- 1:38Speaker 1: with Keithon George really because obviously Trey Young is such
- 1:40Speaker 1: a ball dominant player. I've been liking Keishaon George on
- 1:42Speaker 1: ball a little bit. But either way, and it was
- 1:45Speaker 1: a no brainer to acquire the talent because the price
- 1:47Speaker 1: was so low. It's just a matter of like, how
- 1:49Speaker 1: much money do you want to give to Trey Young
- 1:50Speaker 1: once he's eligible to be to get that money, And
- 1:53Speaker 1: he also was dealing with some injury, so we as
- 1:55Speaker 1: the Wizards, we could say, oh, yeah, Trey Young, I
- 1:56Speaker 1: don't even know what this injury is. Trey Young's hamstring
- 1:59Speaker 1: is actually a lot worse than thought. He may miss
- 2:01Speaker 1: the rest of this season, and we can end up
- 2:03Speaker 1: with a top five pick. So now it was Trey,
- 2:05Speaker 1: Trey Young, Darren Peterson, and then all of the other
- 2:08Speaker 1: young guys. But I guess their player was a little
- 2:10Speaker 1: bit deeper than that. What we're seeing is that these
- 2:13Speaker 1: front offices have been moving very meticulously. And I'm not
- 2:16Speaker 1: even saying one is a good thing or one is
- 2:18Speaker 1: a bad thing. But what you'll notice between this trade
- 2:20Speaker 1: and the Jarring trade. We talked about the similarities is
- 2:22Speaker 1: that the picks that are put on the table have
- 2:24Speaker 1: not really been the picks of that team. These are
- 2:27Speaker 1: picks that they acquire from previous teardowns. We acquired some
- 2:30Speaker 1: of these picks in the let's say Rudy Gobert and
- 2:33Speaker 1: doavand Midge trade. We don't really care about those picks.
- 2:35Speaker 1: They're not on picks. This is like low risk if
- 2:38Speaker 1: you will, to acquire Jaron. Also, they got so much
- 2:41Speaker 1: money tied up to that core now because you got
- 2:43Speaker 1: to pay Walkerkesser. But that's not what I'm talking about.
- 2:45Speaker 1: We can go acquire him and still be like we
- 2:46Speaker 1: still have all on picks. Same thing with this Wizards team.
- 2:50Speaker 1: They have all of their own first row picks still
- 2:52Speaker 1: even though they acquire an end to the day. So
- 2:54Speaker 1: you kind of see some similarities there. You see some similarities.
- 2:57Speaker 1: But deeper than that, let me quickly look up Utah.
- 3:01Speaker 1: I know it's not the Bat the Jazz, but again,
- 3:03Speaker 1: these these are very very similar trades. In my opinion,
- 3:06Speaker 1: Utah Jazz record by season, it's been with four seasons
- 3:10Speaker 1: five seasons since the Donova Mitchell trade. They have thirty
- 3:14Speaker 1: seven wins, which was like, shout out, will Hardy, maybe
- 3:16Speaker 1: go to the year eve though thirty seven wins, thirty
- 3:18Speaker 1: one wins, seventeen wins of sixteen wins this year, it's
- 3:22Speaker 1: kind of hard to convince your fan base that you're
- 3:24Speaker 1: gonna be rebuilding year and year and year. Now the
- 3:27Speaker 1: Washington Wizard is even worse because even when they made
- 3:30Speaker 1: the trade to get Bradley Beal, they were mediocre then,
- 3:33Speaker 1: so they went from a mediocre team to a bad team.
- 3:35Speaker 1: So Wizards record by year, it's hard to convince your
- 3:39Speaker 1: fan base that we're about to go into year Oh
- 3:42Speaker 1: my god, Oh my god. The last time they were
- 3:44Speaker 1: above five hundred teams one two, three, four, five, six, seven,
- 3:48Speaker 1: eight years ago. It's hard to convince your fan base
- 3:51Speaker 1: we're gonna go into year nine of a rebuild, you know.
- 3:55Speaker 1: So we put some things on the table, and it
- 3:58Speaker 1: also a showcase in how tough and how difficult it
- 4:02Speaker 1: is to move a star player in twenty twenty six,
- 4:05Speaker 1: right even yesterday, and we talk about the James hard
- 4:08Speaker 1: And trade and the Darius Garland trade. One of the
- 4:10Speaker 1: reasons that trade was so interesting is because we had
- 4:13Speaker 1: second Apron teams be involved, but because James's and Darius's
- 4:19Speaker 1: contract were so similar, they didn't have to care about
- 4:21Speaker 1: the Second Aprin and it's just so much tougher to
- 4:23Speaker 1: make those Second Apron decisions. Anthony Davis got on a
- 4:26Speaker 1: big ass contract, So even if Anthony Davis and hypothetical
- 4:29Speaker 1: was going to request out of a trade, it would
- 4:32Speaker 1: just be really tough to get him to a contender
- 4:36Speaker 1: because he's already taken a fifty million dollars. And usually
- 4:39Speaker 1: the contenders are teams that are dangerously close to the
- 4:41Speaker 1: Second Apron or our Second April teams, so that they
- 4:43Speaker 1: can't aggregate contracts. The two teams that we just saw
- 4:47Speaker 1: acquire all NBA talents between Jaron Jackson Junior and Anthony
- 4:50Speaker 1: Davis are teams who are basically the rest of their
- 4:53Speaker 1: roster are rookie scale deals. So I think this might
- 4:57Speaker 1: have to shift the way we pay our players. These
- 5:00Speaker 1: real super max deals can't just go out to germs
- 5:02Speaker 1: of the world. Hell, they can't even go out to
- 5:04Speaker 1: Anthony Davis' of the world anymore, because they would just
- 5:07Speaker 1: be so much more difficult to build around or move
- 5:10Speaker 1: when it is time. And that's not to say anything
- 5:12Speaker 1: negative about them as players, because obviously these guys are impactful,
- 5:16Speaker 1: great players. When Anthony Davis plays, he is one of
- 5:18Speaker 1: the best players in the world. But you see, I
- 5:21Speaker 1: had to put that last ye's next to it. It's
- 5:22Speaker 1: unfortunately that's the reality of the situation. So the Wizard's
- 5:25Speaker 1: now going to next season because Anthony Davis is actively
- 5:29Speaker 1: not playing, as we know, and the way the Wizards
- 5:32Speaker 1: have dealt with the Trey Young thing, they may deal
- 5:33Speaker 1: with the same thing. When Anthony David say, a, d
- 5:36Speaker 1: I know you said that you didn't want to have
- 5:37Speaker 1: that surgery. Let's have a surgery. You know we're gonna
- 5:40Speaker 1: pay it. Don't worry because we don't have to pay
- 5:42Speaker 1: Keyshean ny times soon. We have to pay Alex Shardon
- 5:44Speaker 1: time soon. We have to pay Trey Johnson nytime soon.
- 5:46Speaker 1: So we'll pay your money. Just just listen to us,
- 5:49Speaker 1: Go get that surgery. Come back to the start the season,
- 5:50Speaker 1: and now we have Trey Young, top five pick, Keishawn, George,
- 5:53Speaker 1: Alex sar and Anthony Davis, and they're like, well, it's
- 5:57Speaker 1: a pretty interesting team. I think it's interesting when a
- 6:00Speaker 1: team like this goes out there and buys a talent
- 6:02Speaker 1: like this, or I guess two talents like this, and
- 6:04Speaker 1: you're adding to Trey Young because we like their core.
- 6:07Speaker 1: I don't know how many players in their corps had
- 6:09Speaker 1: like All Star upside. But now it kind of shifts
- 6:12Speaker 1: the role of these guys, right, Keishaw George a guy
- 6:15Speaker 1: we looked at, said him breakout like his own ball,
- 6:17Speaker 1: move on ball touches and so on, where he goes
- 6:20Speaker 1: to this team Now that they have acquired Trey Young and
- 6:22Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, those touches probably coming down a little bit.
- 6:26Speaker 1: So now do I have a key? I do have
- 6:29Speaker 1: the Kyant George's investment that I have, and may just
- 6:33Speaker 1: sink a little bit because he may not have the
- 6:35Speaker 1: reps to become the player that we think he might
- 6:38Speaker 1: be able to happen. Now, maybe he has a ridiculous
- 6:40Speaker 1: offseason and there's no question that he should have the
- 6:41Speaker 1: ball more than some of these other dudes. But when
- 6:43Speaker 1: you bring in the talent like ad and you bring
- 6:45Speaker 1: in the talent like Trey Young, it just shifts the
- 6:47Speaker 1: potential roles for the guys that are already there. And
- 6:51Speaker 1: I find that interesting. Let's go to the Dallas Mavericks' perspective,
- 6:55Speaker 1: just for a little bit. I don't even want to
- 6:57Speaker 1: have the grandiose conversation about the Lou Good to Anthony
- 7:01Speaker 1: Davis to now Chris Middleton of it all. But all
- 7:05Speaker 1: things considered, I think you walk out of this as
- 7:09Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks again, not looking at what the hell
- 7:11Speaker 1: the previous guy did, because you can't. You can't do
- 7:12Speaker 1: anything about Luca being attached to Anthony Davis anymore, but
- 7:15Speaker 1: you get rid of that. I would say this is
- 7:17Speaker 1: a fair return for a guy like Anthony Davis who
- 7:20Speaker 1: just has not played much this season, and then since
- 7:23Speaker 1: you've traded of him what he played one game and
- 7:24Speaker 1: then got the abdominance train and then didn't really play.
- 7:27Speaker 1: But like in the moments that he has played, he
- 7:28Speaker 1: looked pretty good. You walked out with two first round picks,
- 7:31Speaker 1: even if one of them is really like at the
- 7:33Speaker 1: end of the first round, it is kind of washing
- 7:38Speaker 1: your hands of the overall Nico Harrison era in a way,
- 7:42Speaker 1: because it's just done. You don't have to think about
- 7:44Speaker 1: Luca Dontas. You have to think about Anthony Davis and
- 7:47Speaker 1: the resentment that you may have for ad not because
- 7:49Speaker 1: of him, but because of what Nico Harrison actually did
- 7:52Speaker 1: in order to acquire him. This is definitely a gamble
- 7:55Speaker 1: from the Washington Wizards, but it is a gamble that,
- 7:58Speaker 1: like I mean, I think the true gamble is if
- 8:00Speaker 1: he gets traded to the Wizards. And I know I
- 8:02Speaker 1: made the joke about shutting him down and then extended him.
- 8:04Speaker 1: But if they extend him, Anthony Davis and this camp
- 8:06Speaker 1: has been very adamant about whatever team we want to
- 8:08Speaker 1: go to, we want a max assension. And I'm looking
- 8:10Speaker 1: at this contract right now. He's guaranteed this year fifty
- 8:12Speaker 1: four million. He's guaranteed next season fifty eight million. He's
- 8:14Speaker 1: got a player option for sixty two. He's out before
- 8:17Speaker 1: contract ex sension next year. So if you're going to
- 8:19Speaker 1: extend Anthony Davis, you're paying him through his year thirty
- 8:22Speaker 1: five season, his year thirty sixties, and then maybe his
- 8:24Speaker 1: year thirty seven season. And that seems ridiculous to me. Right,
- 8:28Speaker 1: If you are promising him, and you promised Trey Young
- 8:30Speaker 1: when you acquired him, they're gonna get the extensions that
- 8:32Speaker 1: they want. Then it becomes a dangerous game, right, Then
- 8:34Speaker 1: becomes a danger game because I love these guys and
- 8:37Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like a Debbie Downer, but
- 8:39Speaker 1: like they become have become increasingly unreliable if that's the work.
- 8:46Speaker 1: But if you're bringing it Anthony Davis with the idea
- 8:47Speaker 1: to say, hey man, we want you here right now,
- 8:50Speaker 1: and that's all that matters, and we'll talk about extensions
- 8:53Speaker 1: and we're talking about contracts once we get there, then
- 8:55Speaker 1: it becomes a little bit more palatable because I just
- 8:58Speaker 1: I don't personally want to be the paying Anthony Davis
- 9:01Speaker 1: whatever amount of money when he's thirty six right as
- 9:03Speaker 1: good as he is at the age of thirty two,
- 9:06Speaker 1: but as we continue to see with his body, I
- 9:09Speaker 1: just it becomes again a very very dangerous game. And
- 9:13Speaker 1: we just saw like Jolan Bee signed a huge extension
- 9:15Speaker 1: that hasn't even started just yet. But joelan beiid, over
- 9:18Speaker 1: the last month or two has been back to his
- 9:20Speaker 1: normal self, if you will, averaging thirty to thirty five
- 9:23Speaker 1: points per game. So now it's like, okay, maybe it's
- 9:25Speaker 1: maybe that's cool. I just don't see that world where
- 9:28Speaker 1: it's Anthony Davis at the age of thirty six being
- 9:32Speaker 1: a being able to do that. I do want to
- 9:34Speaker 1: like say, shout out to Dawkins and his team over there,
- 9:36Speaker 1: because this trade is set up by them doing trades
- 9:40Speaker 1: around the edges to acquire bad contracts, to acquire these things.
- 9:44Speaker 1: And now they again they put some chips on the table,
- 9:46Speaker 1: and that's at admirable. At the end of the day,
- 9:50Speaker 1: how long can your team be rebuilding becomes a question
- 9:53Speaker 1: in these front officers, and the answer from them is like,
- 9:57Speaker 1: you're eight it's too long. Your eighties too long. I
- 10:02Speaker 1: don't know how smart it is to even say this,
- 10:06Speaker 1: but assuming assuming relative health, the Wizards, especially in this
- 10:13Speaker 1: stinky ass eats, next season, look like, at the minimum,
- 10:16Speaker 1: a team that is competing for a playoff spot. And
- 10:19Speaker 1: that doesn't even account for you know, we load up
- 10:21Speaker 1: our good old friend Tankathon, if we load up a
- 10:23Speaker 1: goo old friend Tankethon. Right now, they're tied with the
- 10:27Speaker 1: fourth best odds we won run sim and they have
- 10:30Speaker 1: the third pick in the draft. So they're bringing in
- 10:32Speaker 1: an aj Or, they're bringing in the camp but they're
- 10:34Speaker 1: bringing in a Darren And now we're like, oh my god.
- 10:36Speaker 1: You know, so it's so it's a risk, but it
- 10:41Speaker 1: could be worth it. I think some people look at
- 10:44Speaker 1: trades and I'm not even saying there wrong in this,
- 10:46Speaker 1: but they look at trades in the lens of like
- 10:48Speaker 1: winning a championship. I don't think the darket team over
- 10:51Speaker 1: there with the Wizard Dalkers and then looked at acquiring
- 10:53Speaker 1: Anthony Davis and Trey Young is saying, yup, now we'
- 10:55Speaker 1: about to win a championship. Over the last year and
- 10:57Speaker 1: the next year. I just don't think that is the case.
- 10:59Speaker 1: But it's about these foundational pieces and step by step
- 11:02Speaker 1: by step getting better. And I think that the Wizards.
- 11:05Speaker 1: I don't think. I know that the Wizards will be
- 11:07Speaker 1: better next season based on their last two big trades,
- 11:10Speaker 1: and maybe that's all it really matters. It can be
- 11:12Speaker 1: scary because of Anthony Davis's health, but I see the
- 11:15Speaker 1: vision of what they're going for. It does put even
- 11:17Speaker 1: more pressure on their younger guys, right again, I talk
- 11:19Speaker 1: about them having to potentially fit into specific roles with
- 11:22Speaker 1: sometimes I don't really like for especially super young guys,
- 11:25Speaker 1: but it will put pressure on them to be able
- 11:27Speaker 1: to You know, a lot of these guys on the
- 11:29Speaker 1: team over the last year or two haven't played a
- 11:31Speaker 1: single meaningful men in of basketball, and that has to
- 11:34Speaker 1: shift like that you know, it has to shift like that.
- 11:36Speaker 1: So acquired ad for what seems like nothing, because not
- 11:41Speaker 1: giving up your own first round picks is huge. So
- 11:43Speaker 1: the next trade is a small trade in comparison, is
- 11:46Speaker 1: a seventy six ers trade and Jared McCain to the
- 11:49Speaker 1: OKC Thunder for a twenty twenty six first round pick
- 11:51Speaker 1: and three seconds. That first round pick is the Rockets pick,
- 11:54Speaker 1: which is what we do have. Tanke don up. The
- 11:57Speaker 1: Rockets pick right now is twenty six st of it
- 12:00Speaker 1: going to Oka. See it will now go to the
- 12:01Speaker 1: seventy six ers. I think this trade is mostly and
- 12:04Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything about it. It's mostly about them
- 12:07Speaker 1: trying to be able to retain Quentin Grimes next season
- 12:11Speaker 1: or at this offseason, because even though they do have
- 12:16Speaker 1: his bird rights and he is restricted, they are also
- 12:19Speaker 1: just a really expensive team and trade and Jere McCain
- 12:21Speaker 1: opens up a little bit more for that. It also
- 12:25Speaker 1: like part of me is like, is Daryl cooking something
- 12:26Speaker 1: even bigger up, you know, acquiring the first round pick.
- 12:29Speaker 1: But I also think about Jere McKay. Let's say, if
- 12:31Speaker 1: you were doing a bigger trade, if you're the seventy
- 12:32Speaker 1: six Oh shit, Paul George is out for twenty five games.
- 12:34Speaker 1: We can afford that. Let's go use this fifty million
- 12:36Speaker 1: dollars and these young assets do. In my mind, jere
- 12:38Speaker 1: McCain is maybe equivalent, maybe even more valuable than the
- 12:42Speaker 1: twenty sixth overall pick. So if you were making a
- 12:45Speaker 1: bigger deal to try to acquire a bigger start, I
- 12:47Speaker 1: think they're like, if we are in on Yanna, so
- 12:49Speaker 1: we are in on whoever. Whatever. The jere McCain is
- 12:51Speaker 1: a better piece than the twenty sixth overall picking is
- 12:53Speaker 1: your draft. So that's why it makes me feel like
- 12:56Speaker 1: it's something to do with the cap. It's something to
- 12:57Speaker 1: do with them the two way contracts they have to
- 12:59Speaker 1: guarantee and so on and so forth. But it is
- 13:02Speaker 1: a very instant trade. From Okac's perspective, you don't really
- 13:05Speaker 1: have an opportunity to bring in every single draft pick
- 13:07Speaker 1: that you have, right, don't you have thirteen over the
- 13:08Speaker 1: next seven years, whatever the number is, and if you
- 13:10Speaker 1: can flip one of them for jere McCain, who let
- 13:12Speaker 1: me look up jere McCain's game log. But the eye
- 13:14Speaker 1: test is telling me that he's looking significantly better over
- 13:18Speaker 1: what the hell, I'm just gonna say, type in jere
- 13:21Speaker 1: McCain on Google. Look at the first picture that pop up.
- 13:23Speaker 1: What is going on with jere McCain his game log? Okay,
- 13:27Speaker 1: last game he played eight minutes in the score, but
- 13:29Speaker 1: the game's leading up to that twelve points, seventeen points,
- 13:32Speaker 1: so he had started to look somewhat better. And obviously
- 13:35Speaker 1: it's not been a good season. I think a lot
- 13:37Speaker 1: of us are still attached to that little stretch. Not
- 13:39Speaker 1: I can't even call it a little stretch. He had
- 13:41Speaker 1: a game where's eighteen points, twenty seven points, twenty three points,
- 13:43Speaker 1: thirty four points, twenty nine points, twenty points, twenty points,
- 13:45Speaker 1: thirty points, eighteen points, fifteen points, and then obviously he
- 13:48Speaker 1: ended up dealing with that injury and he was out
- 13:49Speaker 1: for the rest of the season, and he still has
- 13:51Speaker 1: not looked like the last year's version of himself. But
- 13:54Speaker 1: this is, in my mind, this is a really good
- 13:55Speaker 1: bye loaf from Okace, especially now that we just saw
- 13:58Speaker 1: breaking that Shay is gonna be out for a little bit.
- 14:02Speaker 1: I guess it opens up a new roster spot in
- 14:03Speaker 1: the All Star Game, or maybe not, because I think
- 14:07Speaker 1: Team International Team World has eight players instead of seven,
- 14:10Speaker 1: so now they just have seven. If say he's not
- 14:12Speaker 1: gonna play, the seventy six are receiving the following second
- 14:15Speaker 1: round pick from the Thunder. It is a twenty twenty
- 14:17Speaker 1: seven most favorable between four teams, a twenty twenty eight
- 14:20Speaker 1: Milwaukee pick in a twenty twenty eight OKAC second. Anthony
- 14:26Speaker 1: Davis is going to be playing for the Wizards eventually.
- 14:29Speaker 1: I can't say this season, but eventually. As always, these
- 14:32Speaker 1: are my initial reactions. I always hold the right to
- 14:35Speaker 1: switch what I believe about a trade. It just broke,
- 14:38Speaker 1: so maybe I feel worse about it, the better about
- 14:41Speaker 1: in the next twenty four hours. I got a lot
- 14:42Speaker 1: of podcasts to film between now and I don't know,
- 14:46Speaker 1: so I could change my opinion. But that is a
- 14:48Speaker 1: fun ass trade at the end of the day. It's
- 14:49Speaker 1: a fun trade because another big star has been moved.