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Rough Week, Decent Futures Outlook | NFL Week 2 Recap & MNF Preview · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Music Music.
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  Speaker 2: To the favorites live on youtube presented by draft kings
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  Speaker 2: the crown is yours i'm brandon kravitz joined by the
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  Speaker 2: first lady kendra middleton a disaster in week two for
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks across the league a disaster for our betting card
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  Speaker 2: and we will get to that in a moment receipts
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  Speaker 2: we got those cash crash clutch a word from the
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  Speaker 2: oracle evan abrams and a Monday Night Football SGP that
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  Speaker 2: you can tail or fade per your choosing coming up
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  Speaker 2: in a bit as well. Not our best showing, Middleton.
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  Speaker 1: I am so beyond ready to eat some crow on
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  Speaker 1: this episode, but I said this to you in our
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  Speaker 1: pre-show meeting. I do feel a little bit better that
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  Speaker 1: all I saw on the internet was complaining about how
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  Speaker 1: bad of a weekend everybody else had, unless your name
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  Speaker 1: is Evan Abrams.
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  Speaker 3: So you know what? At least I'm not eating crow
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  Speaker 3: alone today.
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  Speaker 2: I want to give you so much shit today and
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  Speaker 2: I will give you some, but I was not much better. So, um, it's, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I at least won something. You're correct about that. Shout
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  Speaker 2: out to the Browns. Uh, quick checkup on the draft
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  Speaker 2: Kings contest. Yeah, I know. And I should have taken
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  Speaker 2: their money line too. Um, it's ugly two and three
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  Speaker 2: last week. We went one and four. We had the
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  Speaker 2: chargers minus six and a half, not even close. Chiefs
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  Speaker 2: minus six and a half. They won an overtime by three.
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  Speaker 2: They should have lost the game. Jags plus two and
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  Speaker 2: a half. I got bullied into that one. I did
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  Speaker 2: individually take the Broncos money line and I won that
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  Speaker 2: bet too. Steelers plus five and a half. I think
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  Speaker 2: our read was right on that. I don't regret the
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  Speaker 2: read on that one. Like I regret some of these
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  Speaker 2: other ones.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I feel about my Ravens bet, which I
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  Speaker 1: was going to talk about this in a moment. I
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  Speaker 1: have another thing that I can have as a big takeaway,
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  Speaker 1: but I, I need to wait for Dr. Chow to
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  Speaker 1: come on before I make picks. I know I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to lose some value, but I really was unsure about
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  Speaker 1: Zay Flowers this weekend, took a gamble early and it really,
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  Speaker 1: I think, bit me in the ass. I think I
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  Speaker 1: had a good read on the Ravens to start, but
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  Speaker 1: just we'll get to the injuries and everything. But that is,
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  Speaker 1: that's one thing that I thought I had a good
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  Speaker 1: read on.
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  Speaker 2: And wow. Well, shout out to Chow. And it's something that,
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  Speaker 2: Give us some extra love on that. Um, they, there
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  Speaker 2: are scores for each team, how much the other team
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  Speaker 2: is benefiting from their opponent's injuries. And if you use
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  Speaker 2: that to your advantage and your handicapping, if you go through, um,
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  Speaker 2: the hit rate on that is pretty crazy. Now you've
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  Speaker 2: got to be willing to wait. You have to be
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  Speaker 2: willing to wait. Cause he's not releasing that until much
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  Speaker 2: later in the week. I tend to bet earlier in
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  Speaker 2: the week. So I like to look at that for
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  Speaker 2: my post game analysis personally, but based on the way
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  Speaker 2: week two, week one and week two have gone, I'd
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  Speaker 2: probably be better off waiting. So maybe we'll revisit some things,
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  Speaker 2: but look, you don't want to throw the baby out
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  Speaker 2: with the bathwater. As they say, we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: completely take whatever our process is, crumple it up and
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  Speaker 2: throw it in the trash. But again, when you lose
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  Speaker 2: you got to reevaluate things it doesn't mean you have
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  Speaker 2: to change things but it doesn't mean you have to
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  Speaker 2: reevaluate things to wrap on the contest browns plus eight
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  Speaker 2: and a half you're welcome on that that was.
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  Speaker 1: Our one win crazy that that is the one thing
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  Speaker 1: out of all of this dude gun to my head
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  Speaker 1: i would have played roulette with this and i would
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  Speaker 1: be a dead woman i'm like multiple times yeah seriously
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  Speaker 1: why were there four bullets out of the chamber how
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  Speaker 1: did that even happen.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta prove it to me. I gotta see evidence.
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  Speaker 2: I'll show you the receipts. You don't believe me?
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  Speaker 4: I have the receipt for it right here!
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  Speaker 2: I've got some receipts for you. I believe the text read,
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God, you fake MF-er. I'll keep it PG
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  Speaker 2: for production. is what the text said in our group chat.
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  Speaker 2: That was in regards to Gifford and I, our producer,
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  Speaker 2: talking about taking the Denver Broncos against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: The Jags have won nine straight regular season games. It
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  Speaker 2: felt like, you know, you can feel when the bubble
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  Speaker 2: is about to burst and the bubble was always gonna
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  Speaker 2: burst in Denver. Come on. The Broncos aren't that bad.
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  Speaker 1: I actually have a lap that I would like to
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  Speaker 1: take because yesterday, did the offense look really bad in
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  Speaker 1: the second half? Yeah, but it was a defensive just
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  Speaker 1: pants crapping by the Jags defense. 17 unanswered. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what Campanile was doing, but I got slaughtered on
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  Speaker 1: Twitter on Thursday night because I said the Jaguars could
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  Speaker 1: have had Aiden Hutchinson and And Jags fans came for
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  Speaker 1: my throat.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Where was Trayvon Walker yesterday? Where was Josh Heinz Allen?
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  Speaker 1: I get that they have probably the best line in football,
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  Speaker 1: but you guys are both first round picks who did
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  Speaker 1: absolutely nothing yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: I need both of you to live up to those contracts. Ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought Bo Nix outplayed Trevor Lawrence as well.
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  Speaker 3: I would give you that.
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  Speaker 2: 9.3 yards per play.
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  Speaker 3: I've given up on the kid.
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  Speaker 2: This is now the second year in a row where
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  Speaker 2: we've got major drop issues. And that was on him.
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  Speaker 2: That's not on Sertan.
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  Speaker 1: My Jags group chat has been saying him for Marvin
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  Speaker 1: Harrison Jr. straight up, who says no. And I honestly
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  Speaker 1: really don't hate it. I just don't think the cards
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  Speaker 1: would do it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll give you our trash. Can we take your trash, please?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Trash trade. I am very curious to see. I haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen any of the advanced numbers on Travis Hunter yet.
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  Speaker 2: and how much of Jalen waddle went off in this game,
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  Speaker 2: what the matchup data was and all that stuff. We'll
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  Speaker 2: probably learn more about that throughout the course of the week.
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  Speaker 2: You know, once the, the real sickos start to watch
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  Speaker 2: the all 22, but that, that is something that I'm
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  Speaker 2: curious about. Cause with the idea was the Jags defense
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  Speaker 2: was going to be improved. Cause now they've got a
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  Speaker 2: corner that can lock down. And Wada was not locked down.
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  Speaker 2: Bo Nix recorded his fifth career win when trailing by
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  Speaker 2: double digits at any point. So, I mean, at least
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  Speaker 2: you had that. You had your moment where the Jacksonville
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars were up by a bunch.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing that I had yesterday was as much
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  Speaker 1: as I ate crow on yesterday's slate, miraculous things for
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  Speaker 1: my futures.
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  Speaker 2: That was, you know, it's funny that you say that
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  Speaker 2: because that was the only, as I'm walking my Jackson
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  Speaker 2: this morning, the only solace I could take and how
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  Speaker 2: awful an NFL betting weekend it was, was that a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the things that we've discussed for months seem
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  Speaker 2: to be coming to fruition. Packers under, um, or even
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  Speaker 2: more so the bucks under, um, At eight and a half,
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  Speaker 2: the Steelers look like trash. We kind of said that
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  Speaker 2: that was going to happen. Brown's over.
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  Speaker 3: The card's over.
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  Speaker 2: Not just the Raiders over. We have the Raiders going
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  Speaker 2: to the playoffs on this podcast, and they're 2-0 right now,
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  Speaker 2: taking on a Saints team. That's one of the more
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  Speaker 2: fascinating games. The Chargers sucking another one. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think we kind of need to do this for ourselves,
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  Speaker 2: for our own mental well-being is to we save the
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  Speaker 2: good receipts, too, is to is to remember the good
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  Speaker 2: times that we have had in giving out what will
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  Speaker 2: look to be winners.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry for our pick-em. I guess we both have
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  Speaker 1: had bad weeks. And now we can just throw it away.
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  Speaker 3: We're humble.
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  Speaker 1: We are once again kumbaya-ing and holding hands into next
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  Speaker 1: week in good faith.
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  Speaker 2: The only way through this is as a unit. And
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  Speaker 2: as I said, I would give you more shit. But
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  Speaker 2: the picks that I wanted to get into the contest
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  Speaker 2: were the Cardinals. They didn't even come close to covering.
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  Speaker 2: I tried to make a case for Atlanta Cardinals. between
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  Speaker 2: their two quarterbacks they couldn't put together a quarterback rating
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  Speaker 2: north of 35 so I have really not much ground
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  Speaker 2: to stand on now you went from jagging off to
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  Speaker 2: Jackson off are you still a Lamar Stan after he
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  Speaker 2: wet the bed in the second half against New Orleans.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I am. I don't remember which game.
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  Speaker 1: I asked you about this last week, but I think
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  Speaker 1: it might have been the Saints. I don't know who
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  Speaker 1: it says more about once again this week in this game.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know who this week was.
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  Speaker 1: I was hoping to learn who is who and who's
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  Speaker 1: real and who's not. But I think I'm more confused
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  Speaker 1: than I was last week. And now I'm more confused
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  Speaker 1: about both of these teams.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got some we've got some 0 and 2s
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  Speaker 2: later on in the pod that we need to discuss.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get the trends with Evan Abrams on that before
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  Speaker 2: we get to our cash crash and clutch. Kendra, your
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  Speaker 2: one big shiny takeaway from week two thus far in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Just that I'm an idiot.
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  Speaker 1: I think that that's that's my big takeaway is that
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  Speaker 1: I am a very dumb person and the Patriots are
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  Speaker 1: in bed jail. That's I have officially put them in
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  Speaker 1: bed jail rest of the year.
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  Speaker 2: At least is there like a there's a prison sentence.
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  Speaker 2: You just said it as I was thinking about the
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  Speaker 2: question rest of the year. You're saying you will not
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  Speaker 2: bet on a Patriots game. Yeah, the rest of the.
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  Speaker 3: Year years in a row.
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  Speaker 1: And I already have a Drake future, the Patriots, any
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  Speaker 1: them and whoever they're playing officially.
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  Speaker 3: In jail, federal prison.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. And they are sharing a cell with the Atlanta Falcons.
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  Speaker 2: I refuse to bet on the Atlanta Falcons. I will
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  Speaker 2: probably bet against them. Now, I will say that I
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  Speaker 2: think you could sell yourself on some Thursday night football
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  Speaker 2: value at seven. Michael Penix has a chance to play.
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  Speaker 2: Green Bay's off of overtime. I'm just saying, if you
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  Speaker 2: wanted to make the case.
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  Speaker 3: I think you need to call the.
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  Speaker 2: Hotline, my friend.
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: I think you need to call the hotline.
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: The hotlanta hotline. I'm already doing it to myself. You're
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  Speaker 2: in prison, Atlanta. You're in absolute prison. We have much
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  Speaker 2: to get to. Cash, crash, clutch. Who are our heroes
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  Speaker 2: We're dead in the water. If it crashes, it crashes, right?
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  Speaker 4: Never stood a chance. No, it was cash.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get to our cash crash and clutch, our version
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  Speaker 2: of high-low hero. Who is your cash of the week?
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: I got to go the Panthers, man. I couldn't get
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: to the window on them at the beginning of the season.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: I said I wasn't going to back them, whether at
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: least in the same sense, not even just for futures,
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: but the same way this season, because I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: if I believed in them. I think Bryce Young might
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  Speaker 1: have arrived.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he certainly looks like it. I mean, it was
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  Speaker 2: one of the notes that I wrote for myself is,
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: you know, let's Let's give credit where credit is due,
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  Speaker 2: because when he looks like shit, we certainly like to
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  Speaker 2: call it out. Bryce Young now back to back good
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: games that he's put together. It's starting to feel like
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  Speaker 2: it's not a fluke. Atlanta already without their top two
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  Speaker 2: edge rushers, which is part of the reason why this
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: team is looking as bad as they are. That was
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: already the case coming into the season. with James Pierce
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: suspended and Jalen Walker injured AJ Terrell, their top corner,
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: which was also helping to at least keep their team
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  Speaker 2: somewhat respectable. He got hurt early on in the game,
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: but Bryce Young Lloyd also, I mean that he was
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  Speaker 2: looking like defensive player of the year out there in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 2: making the case with, uh, all of the action that
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  Speaker 2: he had, but Bryce definitely deserves a shout out for
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  Speaker 2: what he has put together in back-to-back weeks. And all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know, we missed a golden opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to back our sad cats. And we might have to
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: look to do that in the future. I think we
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: might have to have a kitten conversation on Thursday's episode.
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  Speaker 2: My catch was Jamar Chase. That catch was ridiculous. I
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: didn't make any money off of it. I just thought
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  Speaker 2: it was so good that he deserved a shout out here.
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  Speaker 2: Spinning around, lost the ball in the lights while defended
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  Speaker 2: by Derek Stingley, one of the best DBs in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: makes the catch, toe taps on the sideline. That was
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  Speaker 2: OBJ one-handed in primetime levels of impressive. If that was
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday night football, we'd never stop talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: But on top of that, it's not just what the
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  Speaker 2: offense is doing. They've had Burrow and Chase and Higgins
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  Speaker 2: for years now. They have help. The Bengals' defense in
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  Speaker 2: back-to-back weeks is delivering big. And if this is legit,
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: and this isn't just a week two, we're going to
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: overreact and overhype them sort of thing. This is an
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  Speaker 2: easy top five team in the NFL. Fourth in EPA
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  Speaker 2: on defense, tenth in success rate so far through two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: And they've played two somewhat... somewhat decent offenses. It's not
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  Speaker 2: like they've gone up against the Titans. They played the Bucks.
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  Speaker 2: They played the Texans who looked decent in week one.
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  Speaker 2: No Nico Collins, but I'm impressed. I'm impressed with what
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  Speaker 2: I've seen from Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, another future ticket that I do hold is the
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals over nine and a half. Embrace debate. The
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  Speaker 1: entire Internet's been talking about it. You brought it up
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  Speaker 1: better than the Odell Beckham Jr.
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  Speaker 3: Catch.
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  Speaker 1: Or I would say, yeah, honestly, just because of who
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  Speaker 1: was on him and him having to spin around to
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  Speaker 1: catch that. I it wasn't as I think viral as
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  Speaker 1: that catch. Like it's not going to do the things
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  Speaker 1: that it's done to the Internet and span time or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But I think from an athleticism standpoint, maybe more impressive.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you take into account the body control, the
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  Speaker 2: awareness in the moment, who's defending him.
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  Speaker 2: The spatial awareness, all of that, and the fact that
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  Speaker 2: I think he could do it again. OBJ's catch was awesome,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not like we ever saw him do that again.
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  Speaker 2: That was it. That was one incredible catch. What Jamar
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  Speaker 2: Chase did, I'm confident that if Joe Burrow throws the
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  Speaker 2: same pass next Sunday, Jamar Chase could make that catch.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm more impressed with him. My crash is Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I expect it from Cooper Rush. I expect
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  Speaker 2: it from Marcus Mariota, who's quickly becoming the cockroach of
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  Speaker 2: the NFL. We can't get rid of this guy. Jacoby Brissett,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I expect you to turn into a pumpkin. But Aaron Rodgers,
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  Speaker 2: you were given... Every single opportunity to stay in this game.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Don't let the final score fool you. The Patriots were
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  Speaker 2: not a good football team yesterday, but Aaron Rodgers was
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: among the worst quarterbacks that I saw on Sunday. Every
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  Speaker 2: once in a while. You see one of those flicks
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  Speaker 2: of the wrist down the field, but there wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: lot else there. This man, you can tell he's getting
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  Speaker 2: old because he operates the pocket the way that I would.
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  Speaker 2: I would have no sense of pressure coming my way.
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  Speaker 2: He has none. I mean, he took a lick yesterday
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  Speaker 2: and he can't escape the pocket. There's no mobility anymore.
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  Speaker 2: 3.5 yards per pass. He's not good. They are tough
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  Speaker 2: to back, especially now. They're going to go into next
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  Speaker 2: week against Cincinnati as underdogs. But without Mike Tomlin, I
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  Speaker 2: just don't trust this. And he's hard to back with
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  Speaker 2: your money the way that this is looking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say he looks like he
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  Speaker 1: still thinks that he's prime Aaron Rodgers and he's not.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not tough to watch because I don't really
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  Speaker 1: love the guy. But the thing that I really respect
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: about quarterbacks and I talk about all the time, specifically
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  Speaker 1: with Matt Stafford, is that like, sure, he's not as
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  Speaker 1: quick to take off or as agile as he used
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  Speaker 1: to be. But it's like six cents pocket awareness is
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  Speaker 1: just next level. And it feels like Aaron Rodgers. I
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's the drugs. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it's the drama. I don't know what it is. But
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  Speaker 1: it feels like that sense for him doesn't exist in
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  Speaker 1: the same way we've seen other quarterbacks who have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: had a career old enough to smoke cigarettes operate.
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  Speaker 3: Look at Joe Flacco even.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Flacco has aged much more gracefully than Rogers. And right now,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: could you confidently tell me that you'd rather have Aaron
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Rogers be your quarterback than Joe Flacco?
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I would take Joe Flacco every single day
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: of the week. Could you imagine telling yourself that 10
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: years ago?
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: No, no, I couldn't, you know, and you would get
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: a couple extra points of value too. If like, if
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: you put Joe Flacco as the starting quarterback of the
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers against the Cincinnati Bengals. So the Steelers, they're,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: They probably win the game yesterday, but I'm just thinking
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: like moving forward. So if you put Flacco there, you
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: get an extra three points of value. You're probably getting
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the Bengals or the Steelers rather plus six and a
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: half at home with Joe Flacco as the quarterback. Sign
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: me up for that all day long, all day. But Rogers,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I just I think a lot of people are going
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: to get sucked into into the hook there. And I'm
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: not sure that it's worth it.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Drew Allertake is not as crazy as it sounded.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: Is it?
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: When did you, uh, do you, do you recall when
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: you thought that transition would happen?
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: When we did our five hot takes for the season?
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I can't remember if I said week eight or week 10,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: one of the two.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, we are on track.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Air Rogers was a real quick, a fun stat for you.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: So Cooper Rush, Jake Strand, Jack Strand. Anyway, they were
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: the worst quarterback combo in the NFL this week. Caleb
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Williams right behind them. And we'll talk about his injury
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: in a bit. But a lot of that was weather related.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Justin Herbert was the next worst quarterback in terms of
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: quarterback rating. And then Aaron Rodgers. Those were the worst
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks in week two in the NFL so far. That's
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: how bad Rodgers was.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Go ahead. My crush, speaking of Justin Herbert, is going
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: to be the Chargers. What just an absolute crash and
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: burn for both of us. I really thought that this
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: would be a bounce back spot, but this definitely says
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: more about the Raiders, in my opinion.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Kirk looked good yesterday. I hate to say it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I was one of these people where I'm like, they're
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: going to wind up having a lot of pressure to
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: play the kid, love them anyway, regardless of who's starting.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: But I'm wondering if this is good or bad for
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I think it's great for him. This was the plan.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: The plan was for Kirk. They spent a bunch of
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: money on defense. By the way, they have done this
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: without Brock Bowers yet. They don't even have their best
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: player on the field. But the idea was, let's just
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: play a sort of efficient ball control offense where Bowers
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: is a star. They haven't been able to do that yet,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: but it hasn't mattered. Ash and gentee. rushes for 100
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: yards a game, and Kirk Cousins doesn't turn the ball over,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and our defense will take care of the rest. That
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: was the idea, and let's just see if we can
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: get ourselves into a position where we're in the hunt
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: for the playoffs, keep Mendoza on the bench. They are
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: tracking to do that now. The worst thing that could
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: happen to the Raiders is that they... fall off Cousins
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: is so bad that they have to throw Mendoza out
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: there because that's not what they want to do whether
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: that's the right thing to do or not is a
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: discussion for a different day it's not what the Raiders
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: want to do so with them winning and Cousins looking
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: like a pretty good quarterback it allows them to at
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: least go forward with your plan.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: And I mean I think Fernando needs to sit.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I don't, and I think
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: that he would be fine as I think the preseason
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: stuff was way overblown, but cousins can still play and
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: they brought him in to do exactly that.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: So I don't think that this Chargers defense should let
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: up 26 points to this Raiders offense without Brock Bowers.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: So the bigger issue for me here definitely is the offense.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Are we overblowing who Mike McDaniel is? I mean, you're
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the resident Dolphins fan. Are we just overrating him, or
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: do you think him and Harbaugh are beefing? Is this
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: too big of a spotlight for him? What's the issue here?
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Because it's clearly the offense.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: So I haven't come to a conclusion yet. We're just
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: in week two, so I don't think we have to
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: But.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I do think Mike McDaniel is struggling because he's in
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: a bizarro world right now. Justin Herbert is the exact
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: opposite of Tua. Tua would snap, release. Super accurate. That
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: was his superpower. That was the one thing Tua was
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: good at, is he was an accurate quarterback that got
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: the ball out of his hands quickly. He couldn't throw
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: it more than five yards, but those were the things
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: that he did well. Now he's got Justin Herbert... who
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: can't read a defense, who drops back in the pocket,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: holds the ball too long, can't hit the broad side
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: of a barn, but can throw the ball a mile.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: So you've got the complete opposite quarterback from the guy
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: he had been coaching for the last four years. I
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: think it's a really rough transition for Mike McDaniel and
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: one that not enough of us took into account when
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: you go. It's kind of like in dating. If you're
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: dating the meek and mild person, That's not outgoing. And
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you break up and then
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: you're with the wild party animal who never shuts up.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a shock to the system. And
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: that's what Mike McDaniel is dealing with right now.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Can you grade the, can you grade the analogy?
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: I think that that was for you and you're like
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: dad brain. I'm going to give that an eight out
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: of 10. Grab it. So that was good.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I will.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I thought that that was great.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: You got to know your audience. By the way, the
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Chargers are the second team in NFL history to lose
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: back-to-back games by double digits, both coming at home against
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: teams that were sub 200 winning percentage the previous season.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: The last one, Racine Tornadoes in 1926. Don't even know
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: where that is. Go ahead.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Am I allowed to bet on them next week?
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Are you putting them in bed jail for me?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: So let me, let me take a look. I don't
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: have everybody's seven and a half. I don't think so.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think I, I don't think they're bet jail yet. I,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I look at this game. So Justin Herbert lost the
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: ball on multiple occasions. He threw an interception. This was
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: a three point game with three minutes and 40 seconds left.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: They turned the ball over. the Raiders score the 26
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: to 14 looks a lot worse. Now we were never
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: going to cover the spread, but the 26 to 14
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: looks a lot worse than what the reality of that
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: game was. So I don't think they're unbettable. I actually
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: think this is something.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: We need to conkey because he's the only on that
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: person on that offense.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: That's like kind of worth a crap at the minute.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the biggest issues they have. Herbert's struggling,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: but they are not getting a lot of help with
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: the pass catchers on that team. And Omari on Hampton
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: looks bad too.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I think 23 carries for 94 yards.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Quarterback injuries to discuss before we get to our
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: clutch of the week. Caleb Williams, hamstring injury. Don't know
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: how long he's going to be out. Jaden Daniels, second
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: year in a row this has happened to him with
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: the dislocated elbow. I watched the video that Dr. Chow
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: put out. on Twitter. He says it's a re dislocation
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: of the left elbow. The reason why that happened is
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: because the tendon, you might want to plug yours for this.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: The tendon was already loosened. So it happened easier than
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: it should have for a normal person out there that
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: didn't just have the same injury a year ago. So
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: he says that because it's a re dislocation, it's almost
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: like the tendons are used to this mangled mess that
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: once you get the cast on, He should be back
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: sooner than what it looks like if you watch the video,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: which I don't necessarily recommend. The hamstring injury for Caleb Williams.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Who knows? Hamstrings. It could be two weeks. It could
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: be 10 weeks. I don't think we know yet.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, I have so many things to say.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: We know that I'm a Caleb Williams truther.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: I'm a Caleb Williams apologist.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I love him.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I love how quirky he is. I'm obsessed with that
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: about him. He really fueled his haters yesterday by acting
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: like he got shot and for it to come out
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that it's a hamstring injury. I didn't quite enjoy a
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: lot of the memes, but it was a tough day
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: for those of us who were.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Like, He's just he's just built it different. I don't know.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: The haters really they had a W. You can take it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: You can hold it. You can have it this week.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: That was bad.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: It literally that is how I act after I step
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: on a Lego as well.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: It's OK. And as as a dad of a six
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: year old, I do step on Legos quite frequently. So
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: that is that it's like the toe stub. You know,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to ever see me after I
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: stub my toe. It looks a lot like that. I'm
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: sure that it was. I'm sure that it was. He's
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: an emotional guy. He's a, he is an emotional man.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I've had some, and I like that. I, I like
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: a man who cries. Um, but I have also had
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: hamstring issues and they are not fun.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: They are difficult, but ouch.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: That was a tough.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Look for my boy and me.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: And it's amazing. So, I mean, so with all the
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: optimism around the bears this season, just zapped in an
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: instant 59 points in week one, followed up by three.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, if that doesn't explain the week to week
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: nature of the NFL, nothing does. They had eight touchdowns
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: in week one, zero in week two. It's the biggest
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: drop off offensively week to week in the history of
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: the NFL.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: That would make a lot of sense to me.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would. Uh, The clutch this week. Shout out
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: to the Brownies. What would I do? Where would I
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: be right now? I'd be on the poverty line, if
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: not for the Cleveland Browns. Maybe Watson won't be benched
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: ahead of the next game. That was the reporting that
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: we had discussed on Thursday's episode. It was... A sloppy game.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: It was sloppy before the rain hit, but the lightning
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: zapped any remaining energy from Raymond James Stadium. Amazing that
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: there were any fans left. You wouldn't catch me dead
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: waiting two hours to watch the last two minutes of
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Buccaneers Browns. Those are the real lifers that are out there.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: You're a big fan.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt. I wouldn't battle anybody on that. I'm
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: the worst.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: The people who left the Jags-Chargers playoff game a couple
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: years ago when they were down like 21 points or
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: something stupid, I hope all those people feel like idiots
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: because that game ruled.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: I was at that game.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: That's different. That's a playoff game. The weather's nice. I
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: think the weather was nice that day. That was the second.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Coldest I've ever been in my life. People will say
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: it's crazy that it was in Florida. I know the
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: two instances. One was I'm off the top of my dome,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: really forgetting what they call it when they play a
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: hockey game at like a baseball stadium. The winter classic.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I went to one with the Bruins at Fenway. That
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: was the first, like, coldest day of my life. It
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: was New Year's Day outside.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Awful.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Number two would be that Jaguars playoff game because the
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: wet cold, when it is like 20-something degrees, is so
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: much worse. And the third, I went to the last
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Patriots game of the year up here in 2022.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Miserable.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Those three are the coldest I've ever been in my life.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville does not get very cold, but that night specifically was.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Hell on earth.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Next week on the podcast, Kendra's heat rankings. How hot
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: has she been?
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I have some good answers to that.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: So the Bucks at the end of this game. So
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: they come back out of the locker room. It's 615
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: at this point, local time. it's taken them two hours
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: to get back out on the field. The Bucs, three-yard run,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: six-yard run, six-yard pass, 10-yard penalty, incompletion, three-yard run, incompletion,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: game over. The Bucs were held to 176 yards passing.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Should we grab the shovels for Baker Mayfield? I mean,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: this isn't pretty. I love the exact quote. What was
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the exact quote you had on the last episode? He's
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I forget what it was, but you buried him. You already.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Buried him yeah i love him as a person but
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: i just person i wouldn't have signed that contract that
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: feels crazy for him they should have stood their ground
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: a little harder i i think that he was lightning
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: in a bottle he's electric he's fun i love that
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: he loves to talk his talk but You.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Can't sign a contract like that and go out there
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: and do this. You just can't do it. That's tough.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: I feel real bad for Bucks fans.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: That could be the title of the article in the newspaper,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Lightning in a Bottle, after that game.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: That was really good.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Really good. All right. Tea.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fuck it.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Go ahead. Oh, it's your clutch of the week.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Um my clutch I had it wasn't me that was
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: for sure um I'm gonna go with the Vikings they
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: just for some reason this 2-0 Vikings team is the
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: funniest 2-0 team to me we can talk about you
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: know Vegas or.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Whatever but it's the Vikings this division.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: The fact that Kyler went out there and got hurt
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: off the rip and they're surviving the way that they
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: are they kicked my ass yesterday good for them.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: So they are the neon light fade for me in
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: week three. This is one of... I've only made two
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: bets so far. So we're taking it easy to start
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: the early portion of week three betting. But the Bears,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: zero touchdowns in this game between the Vikings and the Bears.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: You could have made some good money on that, by
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: the way. I don't know if that market was available.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: But the Bears... racked up eight penalties for 58 yards.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: They turned the ball over twice. They lost their starting quarterback,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: and they still almost won the game at the end.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Beware of these phony Minnesota Vikings. Now, this is where
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: we speak out of both sides of our mouth sometimes.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I do have a Vikings NFC North ticket. So if
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong, let's be all the way wrong. About that.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: You said you have one too.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I have a lions.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Both are still in play. Those are the two teams.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I think you'd feel good about as far as winning
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: the division right now, the Packers look like trash and
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: the bears are going to be without Caleb.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: The Packers kicked my ass yesterday.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: They're bad.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: They're bad. They're real bad.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: That is a, that is a mid football team. Diva
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: of the week. I have a nominee for this one.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, I have one as well. You go first.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: He's just a diva. No, I'm not.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: An impossible diva.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: What would make you say something like that?
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: It's pretty obvious.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Diva alert!
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Could have given it to Caleb for crying his way
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: to the locker room. But I'm going to give it
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: to Marquise Bell for stepping on the nuts of his teammate,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Kobe Durant of the Dallas Cowboys. If you think the
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels clip is ugly to watch online today, don't
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: look at this one. A cleat to the sack. Ugh.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: That is. It wasn't just the sack.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: It was also the booty hole.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: It was a twofer.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: You gotta. Talk about.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: That's the back door of the week.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: That is. That's a. That was the back door of
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: the week. Have we been. Is Peg still out on
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the pod? Okay. Okay. That's my nomination. That was brutal
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: to watch.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Mine is going to be Mike McDaniel.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I'm just over the freaking diva attitude on the sidelines
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: and going out there and having stinkers offensively. You can't
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: have the freaking LA gel in your hair and the
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: sunglasses and the clean sneakers and just your offense continuously suck.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I just, that's my diva of the week. The self-awareness
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: is just lacking. I need him to go back to
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: being a nerd with his khakis hiked up real far
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: and his shirt tucked in with his stupid nerd glasses.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Somebody needs to shove him in a locker and remind
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: him where he came from.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: There's a good chance that was happening in Miami. I
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: wouldn't rule that out.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: God.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: He went from looking like a drug dealer to looking
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: like a loser.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we say all of that. We're going to end
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: up betting the Chargers plus seven this week. That's going
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: to end up in the contest. I can just feel it.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: My gut is screaming at me.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Can we make a deal?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: You know how Ladd McConkie was in bed jail for
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: me last year? I think that this is if we
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: do wind up getting to the window on the Chargers
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: and they let us down again, they go on IR.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, because we can't eliminate everybody. We'd
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: be out of teams by the time we get to Thanksgiving.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: They go on probation.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I like that idea. Got a little bit of probation,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: but it's looking like we're not locking it in yet, people.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: But Chargers plus seven, we got our eye on it.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Let's bring in the Oracle, Evan Abrams. Evan, what did
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: you learn this weekend that you'll be taking with you?
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: And have you ever taken a nut shot like that?
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: I haven't taken. Maybe I have. I just went for
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: the baseball. There's a chance I actually, and I didn't
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: like wearing a cup because who likes wearing a cup?
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: So there's a chance I got a nutshell.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: The one time I was rounding, I was rounding first
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: base on my way, hard charging the second base. They
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: hit a nice one in the gap and the, and
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: the cup just slides down my pant leg. And by
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: the time I get the second base, this thing is
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: on my cleat. It was very strange. Yeah.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: Very uncomfortable.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I think that was it for me.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I think I had a freak out one time because
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I found my brother's cup in our dishwasher and I
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: wouldn't eat dishes that came out of the dishwasher anymore.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Good memories.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: So this week, you mentioned this to me before, Kravitz.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: It is worth noting. So 0-2 teams. in week three,
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: have shown value over the years, been pretty decent bets,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: especially you want to look for 0-2 versus obviously not 0-2.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Teams have already won games. 78-55 against the spread in BetLabs,
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: about 59%. Last decade, 42-22, 66%. So definitely something that
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: does pop. year to year when you look at these things.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: I think I have it up right now.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: So you said 66% last decade, 78 and 55 against
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: the spread. What does that date back to? Is that 2014? No.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: So for BetLabs, it's 2005 for the 78 and 55.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: This week, it would be the Falcons, Commanders, Dolphins, Chargers, Titans, Bucks,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: and Rams. But Rams, forget. We have to wait for tonight. Falcons, Commanders, Dolphins, Chargers, Titans, Bucks.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Bucks. Planting the flag. That's not a segment on this
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: show anymore, but I'm planting the flag on the Bucks.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Also, got to wait on the Titans. That's with the
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Giants next week. We'll see how that goes.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: All right, that's going to be the most important stat
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: that you read anywhere. So if you like it, you
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: might want to get ahead of that. Bad day for
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: the public. NFL side, 75% of the tickets. Eagles, Bucs, 49ers, Ravens, Chiefs, Packers.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: That's one in five against the spread this week. The
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: public took a bath, Evan.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, on the show we do every Sunday morning, I
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: was going over all the public sides. They did terribly.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: We were talking about that Eagles game. did not work
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: out if you laid the points. Interesting enough though, so
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: if you just look at the public, which is 51%
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: of tickets are higher according to our Action Network data,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: 12 and 18 against the spread this season. And I
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: found this kind of interesting. So if you just look
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: at the first two weeks and you look at the
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: last few years, it's actually been literally terrible. So through
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: two weeks, last three years, 33 and 60. And then
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: if you go through two weeks again, Uh, dating back
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: to 2021, 72 and 112, 39%. So 36% last three years, 39%,
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: 12 and 18 so far this year. So this seems
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: to be a year to year theme, at least early
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: season where, uh, it's pretty, pretty brutal for, uh, teams
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: getting a lot of tickets.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Do you have an early look at an O and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: two team that you like the best?
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: That's a fun question. I wasn't thinking about, um, man.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I'm going to give you some Falcons tight ends.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Um, I am a sucker for probably two of these teams.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: What's the line on, let me look at Tampa for
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: a second.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: I've got stuff pulled up. It's Tampa's getting two and
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: a half.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Two and a half. Yeah. Uh, I would say I'm
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: a fan. Like I'm a fan of three of them. Honestly,
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: I'll bet them Tampa chargers in Miami can't catch my attention. Um,
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Miami is going to be the.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Really tough one. I'm going to be on Tampa and
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: the Chargers.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, just thinking about this, like on a,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: on a baseline level, looking at the teams first that
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: you think there's no way this team starts. Oh, and three.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: That's a good place to start. Now, obviously then we
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: have to layer in the numbers are going to matter
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: in all of this. But if we're talking about tight spreads,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I think this is why the bucks stand out to me.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: We're talking about a spread of three points or less
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: for a team that they're probably going to disappoint. A
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: lot of people, their fan base is, is they are,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I'm in the state of Florida. These people are freaking
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: out today. This team isn't, they're not. 0-3 bad. And
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: they're taking on a team that has been pretty phony
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: so far. They beat the, the Vikings beat the Packers
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: 22-0 in the fourth quarter. Otherwise, they were outplayed. And
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: then they were outplayed by the Bears. They should have
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: lost that game to Tyson Badgen. If Caleb Williams is
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: still in the game, they lose. This is not a
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: real 2-0 team. I mean, this is just simple bet psychology.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Place the bet now.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: Also, I'll say one thing. So the reason these Dawgs
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: in history probably tend to come through hear this out.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: So Miami Casey, if you look at the look ahead line,
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: it was seven and a half right now it's 11
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: and a half. So that's four points different.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Chargers bills look ahead was three. Now it's seven. The
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: box look ahead had them favored in the game. So like,
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: if you look at just the perception of what we
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: thought the teams were and what's happening now, to me,
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: that's where the cover comes through the door. You hear
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: the ambulance is coming. They're coming to get me. So
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: I'm going to have to go in a second.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: This was already said, but the last team to go. Oh,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: and three and still make the playoffs was Houston in 2018.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: And they lost the wild card before that. It was
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: the 98 bills.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I will say this.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the wild card spots, the extra week,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: it is a tad easier than it has been in
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: the past, but yeah, it's almost a death sentence.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, before we cut you loose, Evan, we've got a
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: parlay to get to. We got a DraftKings read that
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I've been told by production we do have. One of
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: the things that stood out to me is I'm box
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: score scanning Sunday night. And at that point, I've lost
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of money and I'm tired from chasing around
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: a six-year-old and I'm delirious. And I had a very
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: strong IPA. So you never know what's real and what's
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: not at this time. But I started to notice that
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: there were a lot of teams that really struggled to
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: run the ball. And then the other thing that really
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: stood out was that many of those teams didn't struggle
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: to win. So I looked at teams that ran for
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: 99 yards or less on Sunday. There were 15 of
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: them across the league. They went nine and six straight up.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Is there anything that you can add to that? Because
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I found this to be quite peculiar that you had
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: this many teams that struggled to run, but that it
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: also didn't really impact the result.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the wilder results of a week we've
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: seen in some time. So if you just look at
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: the teams who rush for under 100 yards, obviously their
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: opponent rushing for 100 or more, they went seven and
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: four this week, which minimum like 10, more than seven games,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: like the best week I've found in 20 years. So
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: I think it's just a complete utter change to what
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: we saw last week. I think the two weeks as
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: a dichotomy against each other will be something very difficult
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: to try to predict going forward, but something very weird.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: And you had mentioned the blowouts, eight games of double digits.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: We've had 17 games by double digits through two weeks,
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: which is the most since 2017. So definitely a little
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: bit of a gap there.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: All right. Alt lines, maybe a way to look in
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: the future. All right, Evan, go back to your hole.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: We really appreciate your time.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Goodbye.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Time now for our Monday Night Football primetime same-game parlay
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: presented by Giraffe Kings. I love me some underdog tonight.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Giants plus six and a half. Rams without Myles Garrett.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Puka Nakua is a game-time call. We've got the Australia
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Factor working against them. And John Harbaugh, road dog of
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: seven or less, 40 and 26 against the spread. He's
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: a Monday Night Football coach. Give me the dogs. plus
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: six and a half on the New York Giants. I'm
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: throwing that into the parlay.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go with Jackson Dart to throw a pick.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Didn't have one last week. It's plus 106 on DraftKings
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: right now. I don't think he gets to week three
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: without letting one loose. I think that either way, they're
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: playing a better defense this week. If it's a garbage time,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: late time, kind of just a thoughtless play by him
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: at some point, your deflection off of a receiver feels
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: very Giants at the moment. So I just don't, it's
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: more so I don't think he gets to week three
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: without throwing a pick.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: And it's anti-correlated, which means we get a nice little
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: boost on that. Plus 410 on DraftKings, plus six and
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: a half on the Giants. But Jackson Dart puts us
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: into a precarious position. with an interception. Why would you
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: place these bets on draft Kings? Because all draft Kings
• 44:02
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• 44:05
  Speaker 2: the month of September. And that is why the crown
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: is yours. I can't say I feel great Kendra, but
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I at least feel good that the episode was entertaining
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: from my lens. And this was like a therapy session.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: So some of my angst has been relieved. Thank you
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: to you and everybody.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, I also feel like I
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: went through a therapy session feels a little bit. I
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: feel a little bit better than I did considering I
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: didn't sleep very well last night. Yeah. Yeah.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I've got like that, uh, that neck thing, you know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: like when you get that nerve, you sleep wrong.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: I got that. I got that and no sleep. And
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: thank you all for hanging out with us. The favorites
• 44:46
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• 44:49
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