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5-13 H2: Coach Craig Bartl Joins, Reading Your Texts & Cross Talk · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Craig, thanks a lot for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: It's great to hear from you, and it's great that
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  Speaker 2: you had this organization working.
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  Speaker 1: For the state.
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  Speaker 3: He hey, thanks thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 4: And it's a fun organization to be a part of.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, we're just we're trying to be a
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  Speaker 4: voice for all of coaches around the state and just
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  Speaker 4: make high school football better in our state for the kids.
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  Speaker 1: How many is this?
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  Speaker 2: Almost everyone in high school coaching in Washington involved in this.
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  Speaker 1: How many coaches do you have in the organization?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty close. Our numbers are increasing every year.
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  Speaker 4: We've got close to eleven hundred coaches. That's head coaches,
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  Speaker 4: it's just the coaches, middle school coaches, so and it's
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  Speaker 4: every corner of the state.
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  Speaker 3: And so we're trying to.
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  Speaker 5: Be a big voice for all coaches and.
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  Speaker 4: The goal is just to make this better for all
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  Speaker 4: the kids, from a Sultan to downtown Tacoma to up here.
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  Speaker 1: Enoughs and tell us about the event on Sunday at
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: How long you've partnered with the Seahawks, How it came about,
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  Speaker 2: and what Mike McDonald in particular is going to be
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  Speaker 2: talking to your coaches about.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that this kind of we've been at the Seahawks
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  Speaker 4: are still I think this is the second or third
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  Speaker 4: year after COVID. We we tried to figure out how
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  Speaker 4: do we honor, you know, our past coaches, h those
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  Speaker 4: that have put the time in and and are worthy.
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  Speaker 3: Of Hall of Fame inductions.
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  Speaker 4: And then you know, we took a look at the
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  Speaker 4: coaches around the state and every year we're trying to
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  Speaker 4: build a database of head coaches around the state, and
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  Speaker 4: we noticed that we're losing, on average, between.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty and forty head coaches a year.
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  Speaker 4: And so with that, gosh, how do we how do
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  Speaker 4: we connect with those coaches and try to find out
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  Speaker 4: why why they're leaving And they're not It's not about access,
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  Speaker 4: it's about everything else that goes into head coaching that
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  Speaker 4: that they just didn't know about, and so they got frustrated,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, they left.
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  Speaker 5: And the Seahawks with Mario Bailey, have been gracious.
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  Speaker 4: Enough to partner with us in this and and their
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  Speaker 4: commitment to this has been great.
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  Speaker 3: I wish I knew what coach McDonald's going to talk about.
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  Speaker 4: Anytime he talks, you know it's going to be something good.
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  Speaker 4: So I look forward to to hear what he has
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  Speaker 4: to say. But I also look forward to, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: honoring our past uh you know coaches, and then just
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  Speaker 4: the Seahawks in our association just investing.
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  Speaker 3: Into the future of new coaches.
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  Speaker 4: And it's year one coaches to year two. We get
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  Speaker 4: a couple of year three coaches in there. And just
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  Speaker 4: some of the things that we're talking about this year
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  Speaker 4: is funding. How do you how do you create a
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  Speaker 4: K two through twelve program?
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  Speaker 3: How do you how do you get involved with that?
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  Speaker 4: How do you build culture, communication, planning in the organization?
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  Speaker 3: What does that look like?
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  Speaker 4: So everything outside of x's and o's just trying to
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  Speaker 4: help these kids out. Are these young coaches? I say
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  Speaker 4: kids because yeah, they're younger and younger, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: try to help coaches out.
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  Speaker 2: He mentioned Mario Vailey. He's in his seventh season now.
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  Speaker 2: It's just finished the seventh season Mario did as the
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  Speaker 2: vice president player of Community Engagement and Legends for the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: The former University of Washington star wide receiver. This is
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  Speaker 2: Craig Bartle. He's the head football coach at Nuksack Valley
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  Speaker 2: High School up near the Canadian border, but also the
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  Speaker 2: president of the Washington State Football Coaches Association with US
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  Speaker 2: Live here on ninety three point three KJRFM.
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  Speaker 6: Coach, you mentioned the mentor shimp event, and it focuses
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  Speaker 6: on everything beyond the ex's and os, such as maybe
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  Speaker 6: coacher fundraising, staffing, and even the parents and your experience.
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  Speaker 6: Which of those areas do you think surprises a new
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  Speaker 6: coach the most.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's all the administrative stuff that's out there.
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  Speaker 4: It's the buses, it's the budgets, it's ordering helmet How
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  Speaker 4: many helmets do you need to order, It's the reconditioning
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  Speaker 4: of helmets. How many helmets do you send in? You
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  Speaker 4: send them in every year? Do you send them half
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  Speaker 4: your helmets in one year half to helmets in the
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  Speaker 4: other year? And I think the lack those first couple
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  Speaker 4: of years, the lack of understanding, is the communication piece
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  Speaker 4: and the communication between parents, between the players, between admin
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  Speaker 4: of just what is going on, asking questions and just
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  Speaker 4: being able to communicate your philosophy and what you're trying
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  Speaker 4: to do, and you know, from the top down to
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  Speaker 4: the bottom with your school district.
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  Speaker 6: You also mentioned the trend of coaches leaving within the
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  Speaker 6: first couple of seasons. Why do you think that is
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  Speaker 6: or what's the biggest reason behind that, you'd say.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's not what they expected.
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  Speaker 3: I think in general, there's a lot of non.
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  Speaker 5: Teachers that there are coaches right now.
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  Speaker 4: And so they're not in the buildings, they're not they're
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  Speaker 4: not communicating with the kids. And I think that's harder
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  Speaker 4: than it sounds. You know, you get hired, you think
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  Speaker 4: I can just go in there and just.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we'll have practice and we'll go and.
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  Speaker 3: Play games and that's it. There's a lot more that
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  Speaker 3: goes into.
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  Speaker 4: That that a lot of people don't see behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 4: and I think that catches young coaches off guard.
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  Speaker 2: Craig, we've talked at length here on the show the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of weeks about parents and their interactions with coaches.
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  Speaker 2: Some intent, good attentions on behalf of their players, but
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  Speaker 2: often misguided and sometimes just frankly entitled. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you know the story of Michelle Hackett, the head
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  Speaker 2: girls basketball coach at gig Harbor High School, whom the
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  Speaker 2: school fired after a nineteen and six season this spring,
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  Speaker 2: and then two weeks later she was unfired when the
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  Speaker 2: district said no, no, no, if you can't just do it
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  Speaker 2: because parents are yelling and screaming about playing time. How
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  Speaker 2: big of an issue is that in the football realm
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  Speaker 2: in Washington? What do you notice about the complexities? Are
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  Speaker 2: just the plane confrontedness of parent interactions with coaches?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think it's becoming a bigger problem,
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  Speaker 4: and it's it's a global problem. It's you know, the
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  Speaker 4: private entities are are pushing, you know, come come to
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  Speaker 4: our private facility, and it's just a it's a money graph.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, come pay us and we'll make these promises. And
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  Speaker 3: then parents.
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  Speaker 4: Believe this stuff and then they come back to their
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  Speaker 4: high school coaches and say, hey, we were at such
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  Speaker 4: a such, you know, private camp, and they said, my kid.
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  Speaker 3: Is this good?
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  Speaker 4: And and now he's he's at high school and you know,
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  Speaker 4: he's got to work to get to be a starter
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  Speaker 4: or whatever. And so there's that miscommunication there and and
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  Speaker 4: you know, it goes beyond that, it goes it's probably
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  Speaker 4: not a popular opinion, but it goes to the to
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  Speaker 4: the uh, you know, colleges, the Big five, in the
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  Speaker 4: Big fids. You know, they're not looking at high schools anymore.
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  Speaker 4: They're that's report that they're looking at these private places.
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  Speaker 4: If they could get back to hey, we're going to
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  Speaker 4: go talk to high school coaches first, and then we're
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  Speaker 4: going to figure out, Hey, who is this kid. High
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  Speaker 4: school coaches know their kids, we know what they're like
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  Speaker 4: in the classroom, what they're like walking around. We know
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  Speaker 4: those kids or these private schools or these private businesses
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  Speaker 4: don't not private schools, private businesses don't. And so we're
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  Speaker 4: losing that. So if we can get back to that,
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  Speaker 4: I think that's going to help.
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  Speaker 3: That allows the parents.
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  Speaker 4: To, you know, see a realistic expectation of where their
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  Speaker 4: kids are instead of just the hey, come pays that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, whatever amount of money it is, and we'll
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  Speaker 4: try to get your recruit and then when they don't
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  Speaker 4: get recruited, you know, then what happens.
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  Speaker 5: And I think what's valuable, not just high school.
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  Speaker 4: Football, but high school athletics in general, is, for the
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  Speaker 4: most part, the coaches. We're trying to build these kids
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  Speaker 4: into the individuals that when they graduate high school are
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  Speaker 4: better people, and these private institutions they're not. It's how
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  Speaker 4: can I make a buck? How can I get this
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  Speaker 4: kid out? And if we all know that that colleges
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  Speaker 4: may not work out, or the pros may not work out,
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  Speaker 4: and then what well, that's where he's back to the
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  Speaker 4: high school coaches that are able to build, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the better overall person and so they can handle that
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  Speaker 4: a little bit better.
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  Speaker 3: So I know, I got kind of gone on my
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  Speaker 3: soapbox a little bit, ye that. I mean, that's it.
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  Speaker 3: It's a problem.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, gone are the days where you know,
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  Speaker 5: you went to a high school.
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  Speaker 4: Game and you you you knew all the players' names
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  Speaker 4: and they came down to practice and you practiced with
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  Speaker 4: the same kids from from elementary school to middle school
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  Speaker 4: and then to high school and you build those bonds.
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  Speaker 4: And we're seeing that slip away, not just in football,
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  Speaker 4: but in all sports.
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  Speaker 1: This is Craig Bartole.
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  Speaker 2: He's the president of the Washington State Football Coaches Association
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  Speaker 2: and the head coach at Nukzack Valley High School. Joining
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  Speaker 2: us here on ninety three point three KJRFM. Craig, you
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  Speaker 2: mentioned the changes now in recruiting for colleges. It's bears repeating.
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  Speaker 2: Only six percent, six percent of all high school football
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  Speaker 2: players in this country end up playing college football at
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  Speaker 2: any level. Junior college, NAIA Division one two or three
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  Speaker 2: six percent ninety four percent go on to be young adults.
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  Speaker 2: As you're talking about that, you're trying to develop as
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  Speaker 2: a high school coach. How has the changes in the
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  Speaker 2: transfer portal? And you're exactly right. Coaches in college level
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  Speaker 2: are taking transfers because they'd rather have a proven college
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  Speaker 2: player come into their program than a seventeen or eighteen
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  Speaker 2: year old high school kid who's never played college football.
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  Speaker 2: How have you addressed that with your student athletes or
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  Speaker 2: just the football coaches in general, talk that through to
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  Speaker 2: try to get the kids to understand that was already
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  Speaker 2: limited opportunities at six percent is even less than that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that goes back to in you know, it
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  Speaker 4: is kind of a cliche, but it's that transformational coaching
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  Speaker 4: as as opposed to transactional and so it's building relationships
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  Speaker 4: with the kids and letting them know, hey, there are
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  Speaker 4: opportunities out there.
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  Speaker 5: One you have to work for those opportunities.
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  Speaker 3: They're not just given to you and you can't buy them.
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  Speaker 4: And so if you put in that effort, you know,
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  Speaker 4: those of us as high school coaches that really value
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  Speaker 4: the kids, you know, we're going to try to get
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  Speaker 4: you to where that next level is that.
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  Speaker 3: You could compete at that you can succeed that.
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  Speaker 4: We're not gonna We're not going to tell you, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you could go to Division one when maybe you're an
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  Speaker 4: NAI kid and that's okay.
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  Speaker 5: You could still go get a great education.
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  Speaker 4: You still do what you want to do outside of
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  Speaker 4: high school and maybe get some money to pay for it.
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  Speaker 4: With our Coaching Association, this is a really cool thing
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  Speaker 4: that we've done. The last three weeks, we had a
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  Speaker 4: showcase event. We had five different showcases around the state,
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  Speaker 4: started and spoken, and we just finished last weekend, and
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  Speaker 4: we invited colleges from from Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and
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  Speaker 4: not just your big programs, but all of your college
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  Speaker 4: programs and instead, you know, some of these private places
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  Speaker 4: they have, you know, it's fifteen hundred kids that are
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  Speaker 4: there and they're paying a couple hundred.
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  Speaker 5: Bucks to go. These college coaches can't see every kid,
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  Speaker 5: and so what.
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  Speaker 4: We've done is we narrowed it down to like we
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  Speaker 4: had between one hundred and seventy.
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  Speaker 5: Five and two hundred kids at each showcase, and.
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  Speaker 4: We had twenty to thirty sometimes even forty college coaches.
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  Speaker 3: And that gave them a chance to interact.
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  Speaker 4: With the kids, to walk around, to see different drills,
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  Speaker 4: to see.
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  Speaker 3: The different body movements. It wasn't it was more personable.
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  Speaker 4: And so I think as the Coaches Association and the
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  Speaker 4: coaches around the state.
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  Speaker 3: If we can continue to do things.
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  Speaker 5: Like that and show kids that there are opportunities out there.
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  Speaker 5: Doesn't have to be Division one, but there are opportunities.
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  Speaker 4: Out there, and get those college coaches to believe in
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  Speaker 4: the High School Coaches Association in connecting with these kids,
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  Speaker 4: I think we're in the right direction.
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  Speaker 6: Craig, if a first year head coach came to you,
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  Speaker 6: guys as event and he was feeling he or she
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  Speaker 6: was feeling overwhelmed or just unsure if they're even ready
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  Speaker 6: to take on this role moving forward, what's that one
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  Speaker 6: message you would give them to leave with.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question.
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  Speaker 4: I think those of us that have been around for
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  Speaker 4: a while, you have to have to kind of get
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  Speaker 4: over that being afraid to call other coaches. You have
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  Speaker 4: to be able to pick up the phone and call
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  Speaker 4: them on the caller and you know, call guys that
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  Speaker 4: have been there, have have done that.
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  Speaker 3: We had we some of us have been real fortunate
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  Speaker 3: to have.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, you know, mentors like Vic Randall and sit Out
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  Speaker 4: and you know for down.
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  Speaker 5: To the guys down to Tumwater and so we've we've
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  Speaker 5: been fortunate to have that, and so these call these
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  Speaker 5: new coaches need.
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  Speaker 4: To have that ability to reach out and next with
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  Speaker 4: coaches that have been around and they've seen, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the ebb and flows of high school sports in the
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  Speaker 4: last fifteen twenty years and the difference between now and
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  Speaker 4: then and how to deal with parents, how to deal
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  Speaker 4: with administration.
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  Speaker 3: And those part of our association.
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  Speaker 4: We have to be willing to open those lines of
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  Speaker 4: communication as well, and I think as an association we're
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  Speaker 4: doing a better job of that, you know, with this
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  Speaker 4: mentorship program of coaches that have been around for a
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  Speaker 4: while saying you could.
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  Speaker 3: Call me anytime.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Adam Matheson down Accompts, Hey, you could call
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  Speaker 4: him anytime and ask him any kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Question and he'll answer it or and he'll call you back.
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  Speaker 4: And so it's just building that communication and that camaraderie
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  Speaker 4: together and getting those young coaches to feel comfortable doing that.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Birol the head coach head football coach at Kilkseck
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  Speaker 2: Valley High School and also the president of the Washington
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  Speaker 2: State Football Coaches Association, say thank you for.
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  Speaker 1: What you do. I know you don't do it for money.
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  Speaker 2: The time put in the develop young men and get
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  Speaker 2: them ready for life. It's a selfless, selfless service. And
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  Speaker 2: we all as parents and as people in the society
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  Speaker 2: appreciate you and your colleagues. It's great you have this
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  Speaker 2: organization and march on. We hope to keep raising the
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  Speaker 2: flag for you guys and carrying a banner of your
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  Speaker 2: messaging and that hats off to you, sir.
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  Speaker 4: We appreciate it, you know, on behalf of the association
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  Speaker 4: and you know, all the high school coaches around the state, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, we appreciate what you guys do for high school.
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  Speaker 3: Sports and the voice that you're giving us.
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  Speaker 4: And you know we're going to keep going and just
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  Speaker 4: keep making this better and better and better.
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  Speaker 1: Good on you, sir, Thank you. We will be in touch.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 2: Craig Craig Varto, the president of the Washington State Football
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  Speaker 2: Coaches Association, eleven hundred strong here in Washington. He says,
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  Speaker 2: all the way down from assistant coaches, middle school coaches,
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  Speaker 2: they do it for like hundreds of dollars, not maybe
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  Speaker 2: a thousand or two dollars, and we're talking sixty hours
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  Speaker 2: a week on top of some of which, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's crazy the amount of time it gets put into
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  Speaker 2: coaching high school in youth sports on top of it.
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  Speaker 2: But many of them were in their schools teaching as well,
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  Speaker 2: and some, as he mentioned, aren't in that day.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a problem.
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  Speaker 6: I want to say. All the teachers are actually a
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  Speaker 6: lot of them are coaches.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and that's and like I said, when I grew
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  Speaker 2: up in Ohio, that was a state law, but that's huge.
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  Speaker 1: You can't find as many to do it.
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  Speaker 6: To his point, that's building relationships, right, Like I might
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  Speaker 6: see coach Cohler in the hallway or something because he
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  Speaker 6: was ap and I didn't take a through classes, not
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  Speaker 6: for me, not happening, but I would be able to
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  Speaker 6: communicate with him about something in history or whatever the
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  Speaker 6: case may be, and he would give me an answer
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  Speaker 6: or just whatever. And then I also I had teachers
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  Speaker 6: that track and field, same thing. My chemistry teacher was
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  Speaker 6: my track and field long jump coach, so I saw
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  Speaker 6: him every day. May have pissed them off a little
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  Speaker 6: bit a few times, shout out to mister Beetrek. But
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  Speaker 6: the point is we built a relationship in that classroom
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  Speaker 6: and then I see him for a practice after school,
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  Speaker 6: and I never thought of that as a positive. I
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  Speaker 6: was just like, well, whatever, you just coaches and habit
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  Speaker 6: to teach me. But there's a reason they do that.
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  Speaker 6: So looking back at it now as an adult, I'm like, Wow,
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  Speaker 6: that is pretty special. That is pretty unique and cool
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  Speaker 6: that you're having someone that you see almost every day
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  Speaker 6: in that classroom and then if you're depending on the sport,
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  Speaker 6: he's also your coach he or she, So that's really cool.
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  Speaker 2: And that's one of the problems Craig's mentioning as coaches
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  Speaker 2: are getting out of the profession because they don't have
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  Speaker 2: that relationship with kids and parents for that matter, because
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  Speaker 2: parents are seeing these coaches in those schools as well,
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  Speaker 2: coming to school events, assemblies, parent teacher conferences, and they
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  Speaker 2: don't have that.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason is states had to relax that role.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Washington used to have it.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: But they relaxed that rule because they couldn't get enough
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: to coach the coaches for some of the issues we're
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: talking about right now.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Those teachers and administrators in the school so I'm not coaching. No,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I can't know.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: And then they had to go and lot and open
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: the umbrella wider to the public at large. And of
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: course you're not getting as qualified or as close kids
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: that are close to these people that are from off
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: the street.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Off the street just colloquial term.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I don't mean that literally, but they're not in the
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: school environment that is a different dynamic. And that's one
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: of the many reasons why coaches that come off from
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: off campus and into this say, WHOA, I didn't know
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: it's going to be like this, and then they leave.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: And that's part of why the Washington State Football Coaches
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Association are having this event at Seahawks Headquarters with Mike
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: McDonald as a keynote speaker on Sunday and a bunch
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: of the older, more experienced coaches in the Washington State
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: high school football realm that are also going to be
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: presenting on Sunday in an annual event now annual event
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: at Seahawks Headquarters four nine.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Four five one.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: On the kommodage text line, I'm hearing from coaches again.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I do it all the time when we bring up
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: this subject. And there's some coaches on the text line
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: giving their thoughts on this side object, including one who
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: says the private institutions is the ruining of high school
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: and new sports is spot on. We'll talk about that
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: next on ninety three point three KJRFMO. Welcome back Greg
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Belt Show with Christopher Kidd on ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Ian fornessa Mayor and Maple Valley is right outside my
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: door here.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: At the studios at Elliott Bay.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: We'll be talking to him leading into his show twelve
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: until three. But right now your chance to be part
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: of the show in the Da Koma Doadge text line
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  Speaker 2: four nine four or five to one.
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  Speaker 6: All right, let's get things off talking some high school
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: four two five. Greg sounds like the problem with the
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: issue is money. Too much money, and you won't be
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: able to put that toothpaste back into tube.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Well that's in a reference to the private companies. He's
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you call them, but they're promising kids.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: They get they get him, they take their money. Coach
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Barto was talking about this last segment. They take their
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: money and then they say the pumping kids up. Was
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: saying you should be starting, you should be twenty points
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: per game.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Score.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: You should be at all stagem why aren't you playing?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: You should transfer? And then they go back to their
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: high schools and they just spend a couple thousand dollars
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: with these people that are capitalists, and then they yell
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: and scream. The parents yell and scream at the coaches.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Why is not my kid not playing well because he
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: hasn't put in the work, or he hasn't put in
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: the work. You just paid two thousand dollars that he
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: didn't make it necessarily put it in the work, or
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: she didn't put in the work, just paid the money.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: And these just like private soccer clubs and private basketball
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: AAU and private baseball all year round turning teams and
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: traveling teams. Money buys the private school buyse the private teams,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: and then the private teams create expectations and entitlements that
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: they carry back to.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Their high school programs in the high school coach have
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: to deal with that.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: Dustin now the two five to three the Knook SAT
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: coach is spot on when talking about the private institutions,
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: especially for basketball coaches like myself. I don't know if
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: I knew Dustin was yes, that was the remember in
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: the morning earlier, I was chatting about there's one coach
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: that always text in it's Dustin. Shout out to Dustin,
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: thanks for what you do, Dustin, And yeah, I don't
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: even I think I may have told this story before,
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: but when I was coaching varsity high school head varsity
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: baseball coach, I had a parent pull her kid from
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: an elimination game. He was supposed to start an elimination
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: a game our ace pitcher, because she feared that I
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: was using him too much before he was going to
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: go in his club team in the summer and pitch
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: for them. Yeah, I've heard a lot of parents doing
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: that in football, basketball, and you name a sport. Parents
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: are doing that to protect them load management.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Dare I say for a high school.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Kid, never mind that there are high school rules in
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: baseball that prohibit you from pitching him beyond a certain
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: number of pitches per five days. I couldn't do it
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: if I wanted to, I get fired. But because they're
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: paying for the private school, save them. You can't pitch
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: him because he's going to pitch too much this summer
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: for the club team.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And this is a private school. So with the private
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: school said, oh, they're writing the checks. I said, who's
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: coaching this team? I was told the parents are writing
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: the checks. That's a private school problem if there ever
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: was one.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: From the two five to three, our high school wrestling
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: coach just resigned, not because of the parents, but because
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: the athletic director and principal did not support him or
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: the program. He was not a teacher, but his profession
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: allowed him the time to invest in the boys and
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: girls in the team and was very well respected and
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: extremely successful. Bureaucracy got in the way of a good thing.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: That's another problem, and I'm sure Craig Bartow and their
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: membership of the Washington State Football Coaches Association has that too.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: If you don't have the support of the ad and
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: the principle, you're sunk. First part, when I took the
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: job as the adversity baseball coach, the first person I
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: got in touch with, the athletic director hired me. The
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: first person I said I want to meet with, talk
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: to take the lunch of coffee, the principal, the head
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: of school's that's the relationship you absolutely have to work on.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: And if you don't have that, man, that's tough. That's
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: really tough. Two five three I was listening to your
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: show and heard about Michelle Hackett. I was her coach
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: at Seattle u Or she became an All American and
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: was inducted into the SU Hall of Fame. Well, that
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: is just I can provide you with insight to what
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: a phenomenal person she is as a person. If that's helpful,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. That's what I'm gathering about. Michelle Hackett
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: nineteen and six at gig Harbor High School reinstated last week.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: We talked with John Manley of the News Tribune about that.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: From Andy out of the two six hopefully they also
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: state that new officials leave because of parents and coaches.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: True.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I also I told you had my high school football
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: official here in the state, and yes, I know that too.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: We have a very hard time and retention after we
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: get people to come in and try it and they
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: didn't that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: That's true. It's not easy. I want to.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Get paid seventy dollars to get yelled at for two
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: and a half hours.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I yell back. That's what I've learned to do.
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: What you give out, I give back, and then when
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: I look at you funny, they wonder like, why are
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: you yelling?
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: At me, Well why are you yelling at me? And
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, you're as.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: An official, you cannot yell at high school coaches and parents.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: You just can't. Yeah, they probably fire me. You a relationship,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: But I did that in inter reals in college. Yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: oh that's different. You're on the same level as day bingo.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: That's but I'm still an adult.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: Yes, but I hear there's a there's a level of
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: maybe decorum that is provided when you're a high school official.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you just have to be above the fray.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: It's part of the job. You're going to get screamed on.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I have a really good relationship. I work a lot
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: of sideline games and sideline officials, and I have a
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: really good relationship I think with a lot of the
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: coaches by just talking to them and explaining what happened,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: not raising my voice, even though I understand from being
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: a coach and a parent how heated the games themselves.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Get I get that.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I try to understand and remember that two six high
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: school sports with Greg bel congrat you found your audience
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: absolutely vanilla boring radio, stick to writing articles. Thanks for listening.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I found my audience twenty seven years ago when I
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: started covering the NFL.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: If it's not for you, turn the channel from the
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: four to two five.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: It's that thing again when the parents say, my mom
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: and dad always taught me this, and I always remember it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: You can think a lot of things. You don't say
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: what you think. I mean, I do it on this show.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: There's some things that I think about things, and I'd
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: stop short of saying it, and especially if it's not nice,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: be old. If it's not nice, don't If you can't
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: say anything nice, don't say.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: It at all. Yet, some people be high behind a
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: keyboard and type up a few things. I'll just fire
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: this off and rip his ass. What kind of society
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: do we live in where they think, yeah, this is cool.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna spend my time doing this. Okay if you
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: don't think If.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: You think I sucked, sure, why woult you spend the.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Time writing that? Fine? If it's not for anyone Jake's channel,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: listen to yacht Rock. I don't care, but didn't share
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: that opinion. Sure, that's why we were tech fied. From
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the four two five. How good is Wimby?
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: I'm in my forties, so I ought women Yama that
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: is so I always put guys like the Dream, Dunk
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: and Way up on my all time list, But man,
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: Wimby is out of this world and if he stays healthy,
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: could be an all time great You're on thousand percent, right.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: I think we are so caught up in writing history
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: as it's happening, but we should let players finish. I
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: think once they finish their career, you can start placing
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: them in that category. Wimby is athletically a freak, and
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: there's no telling what the future holds from him.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: He can win multiple championships. He could just win one.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: But right now he looks like he's going to be
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: a fun guy to watch, fun kid to watch as
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: he goes into a young man because he's so young.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I would have Dream and Duncan ahead of
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: him too at this point in his career because he
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: hasn't done anything. He's been dominant in the postseason. But
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: I think you got to wait fifteen twenty years when
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: he's done. I mean we're doing it now with Steph
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: Curry and Lebron. These guys finish their careers, then you
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: can rip them and compare them. I know it's easy
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: with Lebron, just because a lot of people don't like him.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: But even with Steph right, so I get where you're
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: come up on the four two five, enjoy the moment.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: We'll see what Wimby is ten years from now. I've
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: seen him play.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: It's so unique for a guy his size to do
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: what he does with the ball in the open floor.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Greg.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: I'll put it in perspective, when's the last time he
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: played on an eight foot rim?
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Just messing around?
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: You're right, that's you and you grab a fourth and
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: third grader and say come guard me, and you're just
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: dunking on them.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: That's what it's like.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: That's a good point. That's a good perspective to put
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: it in seven five. Thanks for listening, Rams, Rams, And
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: did I say Rams?
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: That's okay? That's the biggest game, all right, that's a
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: fun one.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I was told by people in the league that the
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Seahawks were a prime candidate to be the Rams opponent
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: in Australia in Week one, and then once the Seahawks
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: took off, and then once those Seahawks Rams games became
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: epic just theater, the league said, uh, we're gonna keep
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Seahawks Rams for a that's a big big national audience
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Fox or primetime NBC game. We're gonna we're gonna hold
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: that one aside. We're not gonna put that in Melbourne
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: in week one. Not to mention, of course, once the
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Seahawks won the super Bowl, that was a moot point
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: because the Seahawks were not gonna open the season in
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Australia as a defending Super Bowl champion. But that that
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: was this until people saw how intense and good they
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Seahawk rams games times three were last year.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Then they pulled off Seahawks rams in Australia.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: That's what I impression I was given by the people
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: in the league.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: All right, last one for me, I was from the
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: two o six.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: I was an innam real flag football ref at Boston
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: University in the eighties. Made eight bucks an hour. I
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: thought I was rich, you know what, I'm right there
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: with you. I was making a little bit of lunch
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: money at WSU and.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah.
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: Then I became a supervisor and I don't really ponded
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: my chest, but I feel you meshout out to the
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: namurial officials wherever you are.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Fortune five youth coaches are the ones who are the
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: problems most put winning ahead of athletes health. Seeing twelve
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: year old pitch in little league and then three tournament
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: games in four days, that's not supposed to happen by
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: little league rules. They also have pitch count rules and
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: rest rules in little league, and you are supposed to
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I mean that is yeah, you can get fired for
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: that even as a little league coach. You get in
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: big trouble. I mean, you started messing around with arms.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Yet those same twelve year old pitchers are then going
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: to go play for their travel baseball team and throw
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: curveballs and not have a pitch count and not getting
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: the rules are completely different for private schools once you
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: start paying money or private teams travel teams, once you
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: start paying money. Yeah, that's a yeah, that's in there
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: and some of the problem. Yeah, there was another one
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: on here that I wanted to real quick.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Is gonna.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: The Infinity NFL network carri dispute is killing me? Yes,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I hear that is an impasse. I don't know if
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: it's going to stay the same all the way into
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: the season, but no, I hear that's an impasse. Somebody wrote,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: go air force, all right two O six. I hear you,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: all right?
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I hear you. I see. That's different than just saying
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: you're at vanilla. You suck. Go back to writing articles.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: If you disagree with sure, disagree with me, that's fine.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: That's part of being on sports talk radio. Everyone has
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: an opinion. I can respect that. Just taking shots from
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: left field because you can be on a keyboard. That's
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: a whole different thing. But all right, can rasp me
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: about go Army, and I mean go air Force and
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: go Navy. I can't even say it. It's so affording
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: It was one I was trying to find here earlier
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: about the Seahawks.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Two six K road games. We're gonna at Cardinals and Raiders,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: short trips and likely wins two five to three. My
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: daughter's team was at Starfire for the State Cup finals
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: on Mother's Day.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: This is soccer youth soccer club.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: They were up one nothing five minutes left and of
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: course taking the chances they were given to kill the clock.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: The other parents were yelling that our girls were scared,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: and after we won, one parent walked behind our team,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: saying on purpose that the better team didn't win. It's disgusting.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: It's like no scout from UCLA or something.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Was there.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: It's youth soccer. The parents are a joke. It's unfortunate
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: the girls have that experience. Two five to three gotta
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: be the Chiefs beat down. I feel like they really
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: need to rebuild. But as Mahomes gets older, running around slower.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: He's thirty now, a lot of clin and most players
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: start at that age. Well, who knows, we'll see, but
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: he's or she is looking forward to Seahawks and Chiefs Vegas,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Baby Vegas. Yep, that's what two o six says. That's
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: what a lot of people think about the Vegas game.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: They're looking at that already four to five and then
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: we'll get to the end. International games not only hurt
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: the players, but also hometown fans who pay these publicly
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: funded stadiums, pay for these publicly funded stadiums with taxes,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: and negatively impact those locals who work at restaurants, shops,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: parking in the stadiums themselves that depend on home games
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: for their income. And that is part of the reason
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: why the Seahawks don't want to give up home dates
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: for international Not only are these fans, but it's the
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: people who work in those stadiums who the concessionaires the
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: parking attendance, the people who.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Sell the hot dogs, and yeah, that is.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks have just told the NFL we don't want
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: to host international games and give up one of our
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: home dates. Infness is lurking outside my door. It seems
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: like you can't wait to talk to us. Is we're
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  Speaker 2: laid on ninety three point three KJRFMAN Welcome Back ninety
• 32:16
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  Speaker 1: If you missed our talk with Craig Bartle, the president
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: of Washington.
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  Speaker 1: You know a lot of good things to saying. I
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: want to do that, I need to do that. Thank you, sir.
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  Speaker 1: I want to hear it.
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: I didn't get a chance to listen to it, unfortunately,
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: so I want to go back and listen to it.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things he mentioned was a problem as
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  Speaker 2: the proliferation now of private and in football's cases, seven
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  Speaker 2: on seven spring companies and parents who pay these money
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  Speaker 2: thousands of dollars for this training and then they come
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  Speaker 2: back with an inflated sense of themselves and an unrealistic
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  Speaker 2: expectation of well, they should be playing, why don't you transfer? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and the coaches have to navigate them, and instead of
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  Speaker 2: a kid putting in the work, he feels the entitlement
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  Speaker 2: of getting his stuff handed to him because he just
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  Speaker 2: wrote a check to these private companies.
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  Speaker 7: Well, and if they do well with those teams, you know,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, Tracy Ford has the biggest one right in
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  Speaker 7: the area, and Tracy does you know. I think Tracy
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  Speaker 7: does some really good work with people, I really do.
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  Speaker 7: But I think at times then it leads to other things. Recruiting, right,
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  Speaker 7: you know, all of kids from one school to the
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  Speaker 7: other because you're playing kind of a so called select thing,
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  Speaker 7: and because they play tackle football on the spring. They
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  Speaker 7: just beat somebody the other day. I saw that. I
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  Speaker 7: know who the quarterback is. He's a taomea kid.
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  Speaker 2: But some of the problem is that the coaches during
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  Speaker 2: the high school season can coach in those especially if
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  Speaker 2: they're not on the campus as a teacher illustrator. They
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  Speaker 2: end up coaching in these.
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  Speaker 7: Especially assistant coaches that are all that stuff. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 7: then it's like, hey, come play with I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 7: I saw it. I saw it all through our high
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  Speaker 7: school experience. What it was basketball or football I saw.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, npsl's got a school famous for it. It's
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  Speaker 7: named Kennedy. It's not as I don't think it's as
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  Speaker 7: much as it was when when Sam Heward was Thereon
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  Speaker 7: Damon was there. I mean, Damon was listening. There's no
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  Speaker 7: secrets here. Damon's listening. He's probably not. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 7: he tried to get kids to go play with Sam
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  Speaker 7: from all over the area and frankly he succeeded.
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  Speaker 2: And that's that's almost a separate conversation of private school.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and I don't think there's a problem with that
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  Speaker 7: with the private school and and people can say, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: you're school O today.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, I also have come around on it, and I don't
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: know where you stand, Chris. I I think we're at
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: the point, especially with football and basketball, but maybe specifically
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  Speaker 7: just football.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 7: I think that the private school should have their own
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: conference they can compete, and then they compete for state championship.
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  Speaker 7: But I think I think you got to get to that.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, because you look at it oday, Kennedy East
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: Pside Catholic. Those three specifically are head and shoulders above
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: everybody else. Bellvy's public though, so I thought Bellvy's public. Yeah,
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: but I think those three Archbishop Murphy's head and shoulders
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: most years above them. Also, I know they're a smaller school,
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: they're still putting dudes out there. Bellerman's that way. I
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  Speaker 7: just think at some point that the playing field, especially
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: for a sport like football, has been skewed. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: I don't know the last time Kennedy didn't win the
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  Speaker 7: NPSL football title. I can't remember. Maybe it's maybe there's
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  Speaker 7: a blip on the radar screen in the last decade.
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  Speaker 7: But I mean Sam Hewart got there in two thousand
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  Speaker 7: and five or two thousand and what fifteen sixteen, and
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: they had won a couple before that, and they won
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  Speaker 7: everyone after that and since then time and you know,
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: O day have they not won metro? Ever, if they didn't,
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: you know who won it east Side right. So, but
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: there's a lot of things out there. I'm glad you
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: talked to the Gig Harbor coach man. I got so
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: many thoughts and feelings on this.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I know you do too.
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: I had a lot of thoughts and feelings on this
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  Speaker 7: on this topic. So it's it's good stuff to discuss though,
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  Speaker 7: for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think and I mentioned before if you want
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  Speaker 2: more high school talk, we're gonna probab get coaches on
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: on Fridays and have a game of the week time.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Love that idea. I love that idea. That's great. In
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the fall.
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