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Evolution of College Athletics with Dr. Bob Dranoff, Knicks Talk with AJ Rovner · WGBB Sports Talk New York

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  Good
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  evening
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  welcome
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  to
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  Long
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  12:40am
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  on
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  your
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  host,
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  Mike
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  Wid,
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  joined
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  as
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  always
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  by
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  man
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  we
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  call
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  Cappy,
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  Chris
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  Caputo.
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  Number
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  here
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  in
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  the
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  studio,
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  that's
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  Got
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  a
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  power
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  packed
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  show
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  for
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  you
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  tonight.
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  Gonna
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  talk
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  local
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  sports,
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  Knicks
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  in
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  action,
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  Mets
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  and
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  Yankees
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  hitting
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  the
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  skids.
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  But
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  before
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  we
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  do
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  any
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  of
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  that
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  stuff,
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  like
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  to
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  say
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  hi
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  once
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  again
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  to
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  my
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  co
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  host,
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  Chris
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  Cappy
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  Caputo.
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  Cap,
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  how
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  you
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  doing?
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  Good.
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  Thanks
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  for
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  having
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  me
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  here
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  again,
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  Mike.
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  This
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  is
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  fun
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  and
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  happy
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  Mother's
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  Day
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  to
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  all
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  the
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  mothers
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  out
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  there
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  sp
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  New
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  York
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  I
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  would
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  say
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  Mike
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  has
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  kind
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  of
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  hit
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  some
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  ups
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  and
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  downs.
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  I
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  think
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  it's
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  good
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  that
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  the
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  Knicks
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  are
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  around
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  because
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  some
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  of
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  the
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  other
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  teams
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  are
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  really
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  putrid
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  and
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  it
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  would
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  give
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  you
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  nothing
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  to
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  talk
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  about.
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  But
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  we'll
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  get
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  into
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  that
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  in
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  the
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  second
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  half
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  of
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  our
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  show.
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  Yeah,
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  we're
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  going
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  to
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  welcome
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  AJ
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  Rovener
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  who's
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  been
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  on
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  the
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  program
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  before.
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  He'll
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  speak
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  with
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  us
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  really
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  about
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  mostly
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  the
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  Knicks
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  and
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  a
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  little
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  Mets
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  background.
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  But
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  before
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  we
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  get
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  to
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  any
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  of
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  that,
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  we're
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  very
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  happy
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  to
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  be
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  welcomed
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  tonight
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  by
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  Dr.
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  Bob
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  Dranoff.
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  Dr.
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  Bob
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  was
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  all
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  over
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  the
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  map
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  in
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  terms
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  of
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  administration
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  for
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  college,
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  most
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  notably
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  the
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  head
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  of
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  the
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  East
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  Coast
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  Conference,
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  which
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  is
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  our
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  local
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  Division
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  II
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  conference
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  here,
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  head
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  at
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  Dowling
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  College.
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  I
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  was
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  lucky
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  enough
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  to
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  work
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  with
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  him
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  and
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  for
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  him
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  for
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  a
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  year
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  and
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  we're
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  going
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  to
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  talk
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  everything
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  college
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  athletics.
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  So
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  right
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  now
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  we
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  welcome
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  in
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  Dr.
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  Bob
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  Dranoff.
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  Bob,
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  how
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  you
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  doing
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  tonight?
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  Mike
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  and
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  Chris,
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  very
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  good
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  guys,
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  thank
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  you.
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  I
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  appreciate
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  you
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  having
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  me
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  on.
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  Oh,
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  it's
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  really,
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  it's
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  our
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  pleasure.
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  And
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  you
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  know,
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  we
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  spoke
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  recently,
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  you
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  know,
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  right
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  now
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  you're
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  teaching
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  at
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  St.
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  John's
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  doing
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  some
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  sports
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  management
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  graduate
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  level.
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  And
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  you
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  know,
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  I
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  was
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  very
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  lucky
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  you
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  had
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  me
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  present
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  for
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  your
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  class
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  and
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  that
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  was
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  a
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  great
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  experience.
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  So
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  we've,
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  you
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  and
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  I
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  have
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  kind
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  of
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  talked
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  what
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  we're
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  going
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  to
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  discuss
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  tonight
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  on
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  the
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  air
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  about
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  the
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  state
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  of
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  college
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  athletics
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  and
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  everything.
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  But
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  we're
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  going
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  to,
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  I
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  think
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  we're
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  going
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  to
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  go
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  of
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  a
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  deeper
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  dive
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  to
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  find
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  out
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  just
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  Back
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  in
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  the
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  dowling
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  years
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  and
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  things.
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  How
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  you
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  enjoyed
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  that
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  process
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  and
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  really
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  how
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  things
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  have
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  evolved
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  or
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  maybe
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  even
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  the
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  word
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  might
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  even
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  be
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  devolved
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  in
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  some,
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  in
• 2:35
  some
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  respects.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  would.
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  Yeah.
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  You
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  know,
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  I.
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  Well,
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  you're
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  right.
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  Things
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  have.
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  Things
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  change
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  all
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  the
• 2:43
  time
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  in
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  college
• 2:44
  athletics
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  now.
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  That
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  is
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  for
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  sure.
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  Yeah,
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  that.
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  I
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  guess
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  that's
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  the
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  one
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  constant
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  is
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  change.
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  I
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  mean,
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  that's
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  really
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  the
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  constant
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  in
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  life.
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  But
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  certainly
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  in
• 2:51
  college
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  athletics,
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  I
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  mean,
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  you
• 2:53
  can't
• 2:53
  get
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  on
• 2:54
  social
• 2:54
  media,
• 2:54
  you
• 2:54
  can't
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  open
• 2:55
  a
• 2:55
  newspaper
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  without
• 2:55
  there
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  being
• 2:56
  some
• 2:56
  type
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  of
• 2:57
  news
• 2:57
  story.
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  I
• 2:58
  mean,
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  this
• 2:58
  week
• 2:58
  it
• 2:58
  broke
• 2:59
  that
• 2:59
  the
• 2:59
  NCAA
• 2:59
  tournament's
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  expanding
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  just.
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  And
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  I'm
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  sure
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  we'll
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  get
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  to
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  that.
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  But
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  it's
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  crazy
• 3:05
  times,
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  almost
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  the
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  wild
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  west
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  here
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  in
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  big
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  time
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  college
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  athletics.
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  You
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  know,
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  somebody
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  had
• 3:12
  asked
• 3:12
  me
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  recently
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  in
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  one
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  of
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  my
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  classes
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  how
• 3:15
  I
• 3:15
  would
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  term
• 3:16
  what's
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  going
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  on
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  in
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  college
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  athletics
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  now.
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  And
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  I
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  was
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  trying
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  to
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  think
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  of
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  the
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  right
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  word.
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  You
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  know,
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  it's
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  easy
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  to
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  talk
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  about
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  the
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  fact
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  that
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  college
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  sports
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  today
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  is,
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  is
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  no
• 3:28
  surprise
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  is
• 3:29
  very
• 3:30
  commercialized
• 3:31
  more
• 3:31
  than
• 3:31
  ever
• 3:32
  before.
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  You
• 3:33
  know,
• 3:33
  it's
• 3:34
  easy
• 3:34
  to
• 3:34
  talk
• 3:34
  about
• 3:35
  it
• 3:35
  being
• 3:35
  chaotic.
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  But
• 3:36
  I
• 3:36
  think
• 3:36
  probably
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  the
• 3:37
  thing
• 3:37
  I
• 3:37
  settled
• 3:38
  on
• 3:38
  was
• 3:38
  it's,
• 3:39
  it's
• 3:39
  a
• 3:39
  time
• 3:39
  of
• 3:40
  transformation.
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  Probably
• 3:41
  the
• 3:42
  biggest
• 3:42
  change
• 3:43
  in
• 3:43
  college
• 3:44
  in
• 3:44
  the
• 3:44
  history
• 3:44
  of
• 3:45
  college
• 3:45
  athletics
• 3:46
  has
• 3:46
  been
• 3:46
  occurring
• 3:46
  the
• 3:47
  last
• 3:47
  few
• 3:47
  years.
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  Sure.
• 3:50
  Not
• 3:50
  to
• 3:50
  get
• 3:50
  ahead
• 3:51
  of
• 3:51
  ourselves
• 3:51
  here,
• 3:51
  but
• 3:52
  you
• 3:52
  know,
• 3:52
  it
• 3:52
  kind
• 3:52
  of
• 3:52
  lends
• 3:53
  itself
• 3:53
  to
• 3:53
  what
• 3:53
  you
• 3:53
  were
• 3:53
  just
• 3:54
  saying.
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  Do
• 3:55
  you
• 3:55
  feel
• 3:55
  that
• 3:56
  this
• 3:56
  current
• 3:56
  model,
• 3:57
  this
• 3:57
  Division
• 3:57
  one,
• 3:58
  Division
• 3:58
  two,
• 3:58
  Division
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  three,
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  and
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  with
• 4:00
  Division
• 4:00
  one
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  being
• 4:01
  so
• 4:02
  top
• 4:02
  heavy
• 4:02
  with
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  nil
• 4:03
  and
• 4:04
  everything,
• 4:04
  is
• 4:04
  that
• 4:05
  a
• 4:05
  sustainable
• 4:05
  model,
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  do
• 4:06
  you
• 4:06
  think?
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  Well,
• 4:10
  I
• 4:11
  think
• 4:11
  it's
• 4:12
  sustainable,
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  but
• 4:13
  not
• 4:13
  in
• 4:14
  its
• 4:14
  current,
• 4:16
  its
• 4:16
  current
• 4:16
  format.
• 4:16
  I
• 4:17
  think.
• 4:17
  I
• 4:17
  think
• 4:18
  the
• 4:18
  Division
• 4:18
  1,
• 4:19
  I
• 4:19
  go
• 4:19
  way
• 4:20
  back.
• 4:20
  I
• 4:21
  retired
• 4:21
  a
• 4:21
  couple
• 4:21
  years
• 4:22
  ago
• 4:22
  from
• 4:23
  my
• 4:24
  job
• 4:24
  as
• 4:24
  commissioner
• 4:24
  of
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  East
• 4:25
  Coast
• 4:25
  Conference,
• 4:26
  which
• 4:26
  I
• 4:26
  did
• 4:26
  for
• 4:26
  16
• 4:27
  years.
• 4:27
  But
• 4:28
  you
• 4:28
  know,
• 4:28
  that
• 4:28
  was,
• 4:28
  I
• 4:29
  think
• 4:29
  that
• 4:30
  it
• 4:30
  was
• 4:30
  about
• 4:31
  45
• 4:31
  years
• 4:31
  I
• 4:31
  spent
• 4:32
  in
• 4:32
  college
• 4:32
  athletics.
• 4:33
  And
• 4:33
  so
• 4:34
  I
• 4:34
  was
• 4:35
  around,
• 4:35
  I
• 4:35
  started
• 4:36
  at
• 4:36
  the
• 4:36
  time
• 4:36
  when
• 4:36
  there
• 4:36
  was
• 4:37
  no
• 4:37
  divisions
• 4:38
  in
• 4:38
  the
• 4:38
  ncaa.
• 4:40
  I
• 4:40
  was
• 4:41
  just,
• 4:42
  I
• 4:42
  got
• 4:43
  my
• 4:43
  job,
• 4:43
  my
• 4:43
  first
• 4:44
  job
• 4:44
  at
• 4:44
  St.
• 4:44
  John's
• 4:44
  University
• 4:45
  just
• 4:46
  after
• 4:46
  the,
• 4:48
  really,
• 4:49
  just
• 4:49
  after
• 4:49
  the
• 4:49
  fact
• 4:50
  that
• 4:50
  the
• 4:51
  women's
• 4:51
  NCAA
• 4:52
  had
• 4:52
  started
• 4:53
  getting
• 4:53
  involved
• 4:53
  in
• 4:53
  women's
• 4:54
  athletics.
• 4:54
  I
• 4:54
  mean,
• 4:54
  it's,
• 4:55
  you
• 4:55
  know,
• 4:55
  things
• 4:55
  have
• 4:56
  changed
• 4:56
  so
• 4:57
  much
• 4:57
  in
• 4:58
  45
• 4:58
  years.
• 4:58
  So
• 4:59
  the
• 4:59
  divisional
• 4:59
  idea,
• 5:00
  I
• 5:00
  think
• 5:00
  was,
• 5:01
  was
• 5:01
  a
• 5:01
  stroke
• 5:02
  of
• 5:02
  good
• 5:02
  luck
• 5:02
  for
• 5:02
  a
• 5:03
  lot
• 5:03
  of
• 5:04
  athletic
• 5:04
  programs
• 5:05
  because
• 5:05
  before
• 5:05
  that,
• 5:06
  you
• 5:06
  know,
• 5:06
  there
• 5:06
  was
• 5:07
  just
• 5:07
  big
• 5:07
  schools
• 5:07
  and
• 5:07
  little
• 5:08
  schools.
• 5:10
  But
• 5:10
  you
• 5:10
  know,
• 5:11
  I
• 5:11
  think
• 5:12
  the
• 5:13
  part
• 5:13
  that
• 5:13
  makes
• 5:14
  what
• 5:15
  you're
• 5:15
  Mentioning
• 5:16
  like
• 5:16
  that
• 5:17
  in
• 5:17
  terms
• 5:17
  of
• 5:17
  being
• 5:18
  sustainable,
• 5:19
  I
• 5:19
  think
• 5:20
  goes
• 5:20
  to
• 5:20
  the
• 5:20
  fact
• 5:20
  that
• 5:21
  it's
• 5:21
  so
• 5:22
  different
• 5:23
  in
• 5:23
  just
• 5:23
  a
• 5:24
  short
• 5:24
  amount
• 5:24
  of
• 5:24
  time,
• 5:25
  everything
• 5:25
  has
• 5:25
  become
• 5:25
  so
• 5:26
  different.
• 5:26
  The
• 5:26
  fact
• 5:27
  that
• 5:27
  college
• 5:28
  athletes
• 5:28
  can
• 5:29
  now
• 5:29
  be
• 5:29
  paid,
• 5:31
  people
• 5:31
  don't.
• 5:32
  It's
• 5:32
  hard
• 5:32
  for
• 5:32
  old
• 5:33
  timers,
• 5:33
  people
• 5:34
  that
• 5:34
  are
• 5:34
  like
• 5:34
  me,
• 5:34
  that
• 5:35
  have
• 5:35
  been
• 5:35
  around
• 5:35
  for
• 5:35
  so
• 5:36
  long,
• 5:36
  to
• 5:36
  understand
• 5:39
  what
• 5:39
  that,
• 5:39
  the
• 5:39
  impact
• 5:40
  that's
• 5:40
  having
• 5:41
  or
• 5:41
  understand
• 5:41
  if
• 5:42
  there's
• 5:42
  even
• 5:42
  value
• 5:42
  in
• 5:43
  it.
• 5:43
  But
• 5:43
  I
• 5:43
  think
• 5:43
  there
• 5:43
  is.
• 5:44
  I
• 5:44
  mean,
• 5:44
  I
• 5:44
  think
• 5:44
  that
• 5:45
  change
• 5:45
  is
• 5:45
  always
• 5:45
  good
• 5:46
  in
• 5:46
  an
• 5:46
  organization.
• 5:49
  What
• 5:50
  I
• 5:50
  fear,
• 5:50
  I
• 5:50
  think
• 5:51
  is
• 5:51
  that
• 5:52
  in
• 5:53
  a
• 5:53
  lot
• 5:53
  of
• 5:53
  ways
• 5:53
  when
• 5:53
  people
• 5:54
  think
• 5:54
  about
• 5:54
  college
• 5:55
  athletics,
• 5:55
  they
• 5:55
  think
• 5:56
  about
• 5:56
  those
• 5:57
  big
• 5:57
  time
• 5:57
  Division
• 5:58
  1
• 5:58
  programs,
• 5:59
  the
• 5:59
  schools
• 5:59
  in
• 6:00
  the
• 6:00
  Big
• 6:00
  Ten
• 6:01
  or
• 6:01
  the
• 6:01
  SEC
• 6:02
  or,
• 6:04
  you
• 6:04
  know,
• 6:04
  or
• 6:05
  maybe
• 6:05
  they
• 6:05
  even
• 6:05
  think
• 6:05
  about
• 6:06
  Stony
• 6:06
  Brook
• 6:07
  and
• 6:08
  Hofstra,
• 6:09
  you
• 6:09
  know,
• 6:09
  which
• 6:10
  are
• 6:10
  kind
• 6:10
  of
• 6:10
  mid
• 6:10
  major
• 6:11
  Division
• 6:12
  1
• 6:12
  schools.
• 6:13
  But
• 6:13
  the
• 6:13
  majority
• 6:14
  of
• 6:16
  kids
• 6:16
  playing
• 6:16
  sports
• 6:17
  in
• 6:17
  college
• 6:18
  athletics
• 6:20
  in
• 6:20
  the
• 6:20
  NCAA
• 6:21
  are
• 6:21
  not
• 6:21
  in
• 6:21
  Division
• 6:22
  1,
• 6:22
  Division
• 6:23
  2
• 6:23
  and
• 6:23
  3.
• 6:23
  I
• 6:24
  think
• 6:24
  it's
• 6:24
  something
• 6:24
  like
• 6:25
  65%
• 6:26
  of
• 6:27
  student
• 6:27
  athletes
• 6:28
  in
• 6:28
  the
• 6:29
  NCAA
• 6:29
  aren't,
• 6:30
  are
• 6:30
  playing
• 6:30
  in
• 6:30
  Division
• 6:31
  2
• 6:31
  and
• 6:31
  3.
• 6:32
  And
• 6:32
  a
• 6:33
  lot
• 6:33
  of
• 6:33
  the
• 6:33
  things
• 6:33
  that
• 6:33
  we
• 6:33
  hear
• 6:34
  about
• 6:34
  in
• 6:35
  the
• 6:35
  question
• 6:36
  about
• 6:36
  sustainability
• 6:37
  really
• 6:37
  have
• 6:38
  a
• 6:38
  lot
• 6:38
  more
• 6:38
  to
• 6:38
  do
• 6:38
  with
• 6:38
  those
• 6:39
  big
• 6:39
  time
• 6:39
  athletic
• 6:40
  programs
• 6:40
  than
• 6:40
  they
• 6:41
  do
• 6:41
  with
• 6:41
  some
• 6:42
  of
• 6:42
  the
• 6:42
  smaller
• 6:42
  programs
• 6:43
  that
• 6:43
  we
• 6:43
  think
• 6:43
  about
• 6:44
  here
• 6:44
  on
• 6:44
  Long
• 6:44
  Iowa.
• 6:45
  Again,
• 6:45
  we're
• 6:45
  talking
• 6:46
  with
• 6:46
  Dr.
• 6:46
  Bob
• 6:46
  Dranoff.
• 6:47
  Bob,
• 6:48
  you
• 6:48
  kind
• 6:48
  of
• 6:48
  gave
• 6:49
  us
• 6:49
  a
• 6:49
  little
• 6:49
  bit
• 6:49
  of
• 6:49
  insight
• 6:50
  into
• 6:50
  some
• 6:50
  of
• 6:50
  that
• 6:50
  stuff.
• 6:51
  But
• 6:51
  you
• 6:51
  started
• 6:52
  back
• 6:52
  in
• 6:52
  the
• 6:52
  late
• 6:53
  70s
• 6:53
  as
• 6:53
  an
• 6:54
  assistant
• 6:54
  athletic
• 6:55
  director
• 6:55
  at
• 6:55
  St.
• 6:56
  John's
• 6:56
  which
• 6:56
  again,
• 6:57
  at
• 6:58
  the
• 6:58
  time
• 6:58
  divisions
• 6:59
  were
• 6:59
  just
• 6:59
  coming
• 6:59
  about.
• 7:00
  Then
• 7:00
  you
• 7:00
  go
• 7:00
  down
• 7:00
  to
• 7:01
  Old
• 7:01
  Westbury,
• 7:02
  back
• 7:02
  kind
• 7:03
  of
• 7:03
  middle
• 7:03
  to
• 7:03
  Division
• 7:04
  2,
• 7:04
  Dowling
• 7:04
  Down.
• 7:05
  Then
• 7:05
  you're
• 7:05
  in
• 7:05
  the
• 7:05
  Suffolk
• 7:06
  Community
• 7:06
  College
• 7:06
  realm
• 7:07
  and
• 7:07
  you
• 7:07
  finish
• 7:07
  up
• 7:08
  being
• 7:08
  a
• 7:08
  director
• 7:08
  of
• 7:08
  a
• 7:09
  Division
• 7:09
  2
• 7:10
  conference.
• 7:11
  Can
• 7:11
  you
• 7:11
  explain
• 7:12
  some
• 7:12
  of
• 7:12
  the,
• 7:13
  you
• 7:13
  know,
• 7:13
  the
• 7:13
  differences
• 7:14
  and
• 7:14
  the
• 7:14
  ups
• 7:15
  and
• 7:15
  downs
• 7:15
  over
• 7:15
  those
• 7:16
  40
• 7:16
  years
• 7:17
  of
• 7:17
  what
• 7:17
  college
• 7:17
  athletics
• 7:18
  was
• 7:18
  like
• 7:18
  for
• 7:18
  you?
• 7:20
  Well,
• 7:20
  Chris,
• 7:20
  ups
• 7:21
  and
• 7:21
  downs
• 7:21
  is
• 7:22
  being
• 7:22
  kind,
• 7:22
  I
• 7:22
  gotta
• 7:23
  tell
• 7:23
  you.
• 7:25
  Mike
• 7:25
  could
• 7:25
  probably
• 7:26
  tell
• 7:26
  some
• 7:26
  stories
• 7:27
  about
• 7:27
  his
• 7:27
  adventures
• 7:28
  there
• 7:28
  with
• 7:29
  us
• 7:29
  over
• 7:29
  at
• 7:30
  Dowling
• 7:30
  during
• 7:30
  those
• 7:31
  years.
• 7:32
  You
• 7:32
  know,
• 7:32
  I
• 7:33
  left
• 7:33
  St.
• 7:33
  John's
• 7:35
  the
• 7:36
  most
• 7:36
  formative
• 7:36
  part
• 7:36
  of
• 7:37
  my
• 7:37
  career.
• 7:39
  I
• 7:39
  tell
• 7:39
  people
• 7:40
  all
• 7:40
  the
• 7:40
  time
• 7:40
  that
• 7:41
  it
• 7:41
  was
• 7:41
  the
• 7:41
  most
• 7:41
  important
• 7:42
  time
• 7:42
  of
• 7:42
  my
• 7:42
  life
• 7:43
  professionally.
• 7:44
  I
• 7:44
  was
• 7:44
  a
• 7:44
  kid
• 7:45
  right
• 7:45
  out
• 7:45
  of
• 7:45
  college.
• 7:45
  But
• 7:46
  I
• 7:46
  had
• 7:46
  a
• 7:46
  chance
• 7:46
  to
• 7:47
  work
• 7:47
  with
• 7:47
  some
• 7:47
  amazing
• 7:47
  people,
• 7:49
  names
• 7:49
  that
• 7:50
  people
• 7:50
  know.
• 7:50
  Jack
• 7:50
  Kaiser
• 7:51
  was
• 7:51
  a
• 7:52
  famous
• 7:52
  athletic
• 7:53
  director
• 7:53
  there.
• 7:53
  He
• 7:53
  was
• 7:53
  my
• 7:53
  boss,
• 7:54
  my
• 7:54
  mentor,
• 7:54
  my
• 7:55
  friend,
• 7:56
  Coach
• 7:56
  Konaseka
• 7:57
  and
• 7:58
  so
• 7:58
  many
• 7:59
  other
• 7:59
  people
• 7:59
  there.
• 8:00
  I
• 8:00
  was
• 8:00
  there
• 8:00
  during
• 8:00
  the
• 8:01
  heyday
• 8:01
  of
• 8:01
  the,
• 8:03
  the
• 8:03
  Big
• 8:03
  East.
• 8:05
  But
• 8:05
  then
• 8:05
  I
• 8:06
  had
• 8:06
  a
• 8:06
  chance
• 8:06
  what
• 8:07
  my
• 8:07
  desire
• 8:07
  was,
• 8:07
  I
• 8:08
  felt
• 8:08
  that
• 8:08
  I
• 8:09
  would
• 8:09
  like
• 8:09
  to
• 8:09
  be
• 8:09
  in
• 8:10
  a
• 8:10
  leadership
• 8:10
  role.
• 8:10
  I
• 8:11
  did
• 8:11
  get
• 8:11
  that
• 8:11
  job
• 8:11
  at
• 8:12
  Old
• 8:12
  Westbury
• 8:12
  for
• 8:13
  a
• 8:13
  few
• 8:13
  years,
• 8:14
  which
• 8:14
  was
• 8:15
  the
• 8:15
  other
• 8:16
  side
• 8:16
  of
• 8:16
  the
• 8:16
  spectrum
• 8:16
  in
• 8:17
  a
• 8:17
  lot
• 8:17
  of
• 8:17
  ways.
• 8:18
  You
• 8:18
  know,
• 8:18
  that
• 8:19
  school
• 8:19
  had
• 8:19
  lost
• 8:20
  NCAA
• 8:20
  membership
• 8:21
  because
• 8:21
  they
• 8:21
  had
• 8:22
  dropped
• 8:22
  so
• 8:22
  many
• 8:22
  sports.
• 8:23
  And
• 8:23
  that
• 8:23
  was
• 8:23
  really
• 8:24
  the
• 8:24
  job
• 8:24
  I
• 8:25
  had
• 8:25
  to
• 8:25
  do
• 8:25
  is
• 8:25
  bring
• 8:25
  back
• 8:26
  sports
• 8:26
  and
• 8:26
  get
• 8:26
  us
• 8:27
  back
• 8:27
  into
• 8:27
  the
• 8:27
  ncaa.
• 8:28
  The
• 8:29
  Dowling
• 8:29
  thing
• 8:30
  came
• 8:30
  along,
• 8:30
  and
• 8:31
  that
• 8:31
  was
• 8:31
  a
• 8:31
  school,
• 8:32
  unfortunately,
• 8:33
  no
• 8:33
  longer
• 8:34
  open
• 8:35
  anymore.
• 8:36
  But
• 8:36
  I
• 8:36
  spent
• 8:36
  12
• 8:37
  years
• 8:38
  at
• 8:38
  Dowling,
• 8:39
  and
• 8:39
  that
• 8:39
  was
• 8:39
  a
• 8:39
  school
• 8:40
  where
• 8:40
  we
• 8:40
  had
• 8:40
  no
• 8:40
  athletic
• 8:41
  facilities.
• 8:41
  It
• 8:41
  was
• 8:42
  a
• 8:42
  Division
• 8:42
  2
• 8:42
  program,
• 8:44
  no
• 8:44
  athletic
• 8:44
  facilities.
• 8:45
  I
• 8:45
  used
• 8:46
  to
• 8:46
  tell
• 8:46
  people
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  only
• 8:46
  athletic
• 8:47
  facilities
• 8:47
  we
• 8:48
  had
• 8:48
  was
• 8:48
  the
• 8:49
  River
• 8:49
  Konequot
• 8:49
  river
• 8:50
  campus,
• 8:52
  where
• 8:52
  we
• 8:52
  would
• 8:52
  row
• 8:53
  on
• 8:53
  for
• 8:53
  our
• 8:53
  men's
• 8:54
  and
• 8:54
  women's
• 8:54
  rowing
• 8:55
  teams.
• 8:57
  But,
• 8:57
  you
• 8:57
  know,
• 8:57
  we
• 8:58
  were
• 8:58
  able
• 8:58
  to
• 8:58
  have
• 8:58
  a
• 8:59
  lot
• 8:59
  of
• 8:59
  success
• 8:59
  at
• 9:00
  Dowling,
• 9:01
  where
• 9:03
  with
• 9:04
  a
• 9:04
  lot
• 9:04
  of
• 9:04
  our
• 9:04
  teams
• 9:05
  were
• 9:05
  very
• 9:05
  good.
• 9:06
  And
• 9:06
  I
• 9:06
  think
• 9:06
  it
• 9:07
  was
• 9:07
  a
• 9:07
  matter
• 9:08
  of
• 9:08
  coaches
• 9:09
  and
• 9:09
  athletes
• 9:10
  who
• 9:11
  put
• 9:11
  the
• 9:11
  facility
• 9:12
  part
• 9:12
  aside
• 9:12
  and
• 9:12
  said,
• 9:13
  we,
• 9:13
  you
• 9:13
  know,
• 9:13
  we'll
• 9:14
  work
• 9:14
  together,
• 9:14
  we'll
• 9:14
  outwork
• 9:15
  people.
• 9:15
  I
• 9:16
  learned
• 9:16
  so
• 9:16
  much
• 9:17
  there.
• 9:18
  It
• 9:18
  was
• 9:18
  a
• 9:18
  very
• 9:18
  frustrating
• 9:20
  place.
• 9:21
  And
• 9:22
  like
• 9:22
  I
• 9:22
  said,
• 9:22
  unfortunately,
• 9:23
  after
• 9:23
  I
• 9:23
  left
• 9:24
  a
• 9:24
  few
• 9:24
  years
• 9:24
  later,
• 9:25
  while
• 9:25
  I
• 9:25
  was
• 9:25
  commissioner
• 9:26
  of
• 9:26
  the
• 9:26
  conference
• 9:26
  in
• 9:27
  bowling,
• 9:27
  as
• 9:27
  a
• 9:27
  member
• 9:28
  of
• 9:28
  that
• 9:28
  was
• 9:28
  a
• 9:28
  member
• 9:29
  of
• 9:29
  that
• 9:29
  conference,
• 9:30
  they
• 9:30
  had
• 9:31
  closed
• 9:31
  shop.
• 9:31
  But
• 9:33
  the
• 9:34
  community
• 9:35
  college.
• 9:35
  I
• 9:36
  didn't
• 9:36
  know
• 9:36
  anything
• 9:36
  about
• 9:37
  community
• 9:37
  college
• 9:38
  athletics.
• 9:38
  I
• 9:38
  learned
• 9:39
  very
• 9:39
  quickly.
• 9:41
  We
• 9:42
  had
• 9:42
  a
• 9:42
  pretty
• 9:42
  successful
• 9:43
  program
• 9:44
  at
• 9:44
  Suffolk.
• 9:44
  I
• 9:45
  was
• 9:45
  on
• 9:45
  the
• 9:46
  Selden
• 9:47
  campus,
• 9:47
  the
• 9:47
  Ammerman
• 9:48
  campus.
• 9:49
  Part
• 9:49
  of
• 9:50
  the
• 9:50
  reason
• 9:50
  I
• 9:51
  took
• 9:51
  that
• 9:51
  job
• 9:51
  was
• 9:52
  I
• 9:52
  also
• 9:53
  got
• 9:53
  involved
• 9:53
  in
• 9:53
  administration
• 9:54
  there
• 9:54
  and
• 9:55
  student
• 9:55
  affairs
• 9:56
  as
• 9:56
  an
• 9:56
  assistant
• 9:57
  dean.
• 9:59
  But
• 10:00
  I
• 10:00
  was
• 10:01
  also
• 10:01
  in
• 10:01
  charge
• 10:01
  of
• 10:02
  the
• 10:02
  region.
• 10:06
  NJCAA
• 10:07
  sports
• 10:07
  is
• 10:07
  broken
• 10:08
  into
• 10:08
  regions,
• 10:09
  and
• 10:09
  I
• 10:09
  became
• 10:10
  the
• 10:10
  chair
• 10:10
  of
• 10:11
  the
• 10:11
  region
• 10:12
  for
• 10:12
  that.
• 10:13
  Suffolk
• 10:14
  was
• 10:14
  in
• 10:14
  and
• 10:15
  kind
• 10:16
  of
• 10:16
  spelled
• 10:17
  out,
• 10:17
  I
• 10:17
  think,
• 10:17
  my
• 10:17
  future
• 10:17
  as
• 10:18
  a
• 10:18
  commissioner.
• 10:19
  But
• 10:20
  it
• 10:20
  was,
• 10:20
  again,
• 10:21
  an
• 10:21
  amazing
• 10:22
  place.
• 10:23
  I
• 10:23
  still
• 10:23
  have
• 10:24
  friends
• 10:25
  from
• 10:25
  those
• 10:25
  days,
• 10:27
  friends
• 10:27
  from
• 10:28
  those
• 10:28
  days
• 10:28
  at
• 10:28
  all
• 10:29
  my
• 10:29
  schools,
• 10:29
  but
• 10:30
  I
• 10:31
  was
• 10:31
  only
• 10:31
  there
• 10:31
  a
• 10:31
  short
• 10:31
  amount
• 10:32
  of
• 10:32
  time,
• 10:32
  but
• 10:32
  I
• 10:32
  learned
• 10:32
  a
• 10:33
  ton.
• 10:33
  And
• 10:33
  then
• 10:34
  the
• 10:36
  East
• 10:36
  Coast
• 10:36
  Conference
• 10:37
  had
• 10:38
  come
• 10:39
  talk
• 10:39
  to
• 10:39
  me.
• 10:40
  You
• 10:40
  know,
• 10:40
  I
• 10:40
  have
• 10:40
  a.
• 10:41
  Had
• 10:41
  an
• 10:41
  emotional
• 10:42
  connection
• 10:42
  to
• 10:42
  the.
• 10:43
  I've
• 10:43
  spent
• 10:43
  12
• 10:43
  years
• 10:44
  as
• 10:44
  an
• 10:44
  AD
• 10:44
  in
• 10:44
  the
• 10:45
  conference,
• 10:45
  and
• 10:46
  they
• 10:46
  were.
• 10:46
  They
• 10:46
  needed
• 10:47
  to
• 10:47
  stabilize
• 10:48
  things
• 10:48
  a
• 10:48
  little
• 10:48
  bit.
• 10:48
  They
• 10:49
  were.
• 10:50
  The
• 10:50
  conference
• 10:50
  was
• 10:51
  going
• 10:51
  to
• 10:51
  be
• 10:51
  down
• 10:51
  to
• 10:52
  eight
• 10:52
  members,
• 10:52
  and
• 10:53
  so
• 10:53
  we
• 10:53
  needed
• 10:53
  to
• 10:54
  find
• 10:54
  some
• 10:54
  new
• 10:54
  members.
• 10:57
  And,
• 10:57
  you
• 10:58
  know,
• 10:58
  Division
• 10:58
  2
• 10:59
  athletics
• 10:59
  in
• 11:00
  the
• 11:00
  Northeast
• 11:01
  is
• 11:01
  unlike.
• 11:02
  Or
• 11:03
  at
• 11:03
  our
• 11:03
  conference,
• 11:04
  it
• 11:04
  was
• 11:04
  unlike
• 11:04
  a
• 11:04
  lot
• 11:04
  of,
• 11:05
  you
• 11:05
  know,
• 11:05
  other
• 11:05
  conferences
• 11:06
  around
• 11:06
  the
• 11:06
  country.
• 11:07
  We
• 11:07
  didn't
• 11:07
  have
• 11:07
  football.
• 11:08
  We,
• 11:10
  you
• 11:10
  know,
• 11:10
  we
• 11:10
  played
• 11:10
  some
• 11:11
  sports
• 11:11
  and
• 11:11
  we
• 11:11
  were
• 11:11
  very
• 11:12
  successful
• 11:12
  in
• 11:12
  sports
• 11:13
  like
• 11:13
  lacrosse,
• 11:14
  both
• 11:14
  lacrosses
• 11:15
  and
• 11:15
  soccers.
• 11:16
  And
• 11:18
  we
• 11:18
  had,
• 11:19
  we
• 11:19
  did
• 11:19
  pretty
• 11:20
  well
• 11:20
  as
• 11:20
  a
• 11:20
  conference.
• 11:21
  But
• 11:21
  you
• 11:21
  know,
• 11:22
  in
• 11:22
  five
• 11:22
  years,
• 11:24
  and
• 11:24
  then
• 11:24
  I'll,
• 11:25
  and
• 11:25
  then
• 11:25
  I'll
• 11:25
  take
• 11:25
  a
• 11:25
  break.
• 11:25
  But
• 11:26
  in
• 11:26
  five
• 11:26
  years
• 11:28
  we
• 11:28
  brought
• 11:28
  in,
• 11:30
  we
• 11:30
  were
• 11:30
  pretty
• 11:30
  successful.
• 11:31
  We
• 11:31
  brought
• 11:31
  in
• 11:31
  five.
• 11:32
  Well,
• 11:32
  I'm
• 11:32
  sorry,
• 11:32
  in
• 11:33
  the
• 11:33
  16
• 11:33
  years
• 11:33
  I
• 11:34
  was
• 11:34
  there,
• 11:34
  we
• 11:34
  brought
• 11:34
  in
• 11:35
  five
• 11:36
  new
• 11:36
  schools.
• 11:37
  But
• 11:38
  the
• 11:38
  other
• 11:38
  part
• 11:38
  is
• 11:38
  lost
• 11:39
  five
• 11:39
  schools
• 11:39
  during
• 11:39
  that
• 11:40
  time
• 11:40
  too.
• 11:41
  You
• 11:41
  know,
• 11:41
  we
• 11:41
  had
• 11:42
  schools
• 11:42
  like,
• 11:43
  like
• 11:44
  that,
• 11:44
  like
• 11:44
  Southampton
• 11:45
  College,
• 11:45
  like
• 11:47
  Adelphi
• 11:48
  was
• 11:49
  a
• 11:49
  part
• 11:49
  of
• 11:49
  that
• 11:49
  conference
• 11:50
  and
• 11:50
  then
• 11:50
  Liu,
• 11:52
  CW
• 11:52
  Post
• 11:53
  was
• 11:54
  in
• 11:54
  there.
• 11:54
  And
• 11:54
  so
• 11:54
  a
• 11:54
  lot
• 11:55
  of,
• 11:55
  a
• 11:55
  lot
• 11:55
  of
• 11:55
  changes
• 11:56
  in
• 11:56
  New
• 11:56
  York,
• 11:57
  New
• 11:57
  York
• 11:57
  Tech
• 11:57
  that
• 11:58
  dropped
• 11:58
  their
• 11:58
  athletic
• 11:59
  program.
• 11:59
  So
• 11:59
  you
• 12:00
  know,
• 12:00
  it's
• 12:00
  sort
• 12:00
  of
• 12:00
  a
• 12:01
  microcosm
• 12:01
  of
• 12:02
  kind
• 12:03
  of
• 12:03
  where
• 12:03
  what's
• 12:04
  going
• 12:04
  on
• 12:04
  in
• 12:05
  college
• 12:05
  athletics
• 12:08
  in
• 12:08
  some
• 12:08
  ways
• 12:09
  right
• 12:09
  now
• 12:09
  and
• 12:10
  the
• 12:10
  challenges
• 12:10
  in
• 12:11
  higher
• 12:11
  education
• 12:12
  as
• 12:12
  a
• 12:12
  whole
• 12:13
  that
• 12:13
  some
• 12:13
  of
• 12:13
  our
• 12:13
  schools
• 12:14
  weren't
• 12:14
  able
• 12:14
  to
• 12:15
  maintain,
• 12:15
  well,
• 12:16
  not
• 12:16
  stay
• 12:17
  open
• 12:18
  or
• 12:18
  decide
• 12:19
  that
• 12:19
  athletics
• 12:19
  wasn't
• 12:20
  going
• 12:20
  to
• 12:20
  be
• 12:20
  a
• 12:20
  focus
• 12:21
  for
• 12:21
  them.
• 12:21
  And
• 12:22
  so
• 12:22
  like
• 12:23
  New
• 12:23
  York
• 12:23
  Tech
• 12:23
  did,
• 12:24
  you
• 12:24
  know,
• 12:24
  so
• 12:25
  tons
• 12:26
  of
• 12:26
  change.
• 12:26
  You
• 12:26
  know,
• 12:27
  when
• 12:27
  we
• 12:27
  think
• 12:27
  about,
• 12:28
  I
• 12:28
  say
• 12:28
  it's
• 12:28
  a
• 12:28
  transformative
• 12:30
  time
• 12:31
  in
• 12:31
  athletics
• 12:32
  now,
• 12:32
  but
• 12:33
  this
• 12:33
  has
• 12:33
  been
• 12:33
  going
• 12:34
  on
• 12:34
  for
• 12:34
  a
• 12:34
  while
• 12:34
  and
• 12:34
  there's
• 12:35
  a,
• 12:35
  there
• 12:35
  are
• 12:35
  a
• 12:35
  ton
• 12:35
  of
• 12:36
  challenges
• 12:36
  out
• 12:36
  there
• 12:36
  for
• 12:37
  schools
• 12:37
  that,
• 12:39
  smaller
• 12:39
  private
• 12:40
  schools,
• 12:40
  but
• 12:40
  even,
• 12:41
  you
• 12:42
  know,
• 12:42
  public
• 12:42
  schools
• 12:43
  in
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  New
• 12:44
  York
• 12:44
  metropolitan
• 12:45
  area
• 12:45
  that
• 12:46
  are
• 12:46
  challenged
• 12:47
  with
• 12:47
  enrollment,
• 12:47
  are
• 12:47
  challenged
• 12:48
  with,
• 12:50
  in
• 12:50
  making
• 12:51
  decisions
• 12:51
  on
• 12:52
  sports
• 12:52
  and
• 12:53
  divisional
• 12:54
  play.
• 12:54
  And
• 12:55
  so,
• 12:57
  you
• 12:57
  know,
• 12:57
  it's
• 12:58
  not
• 12:58
  only
• 12:58
  happening
• 12:58
  at
• 12:59
  the
• 12:59
  big
• 12:59
  time
• 12:59
  athletic
• 13:00
  programs.
• 13:00
  Everybody's
• 13:01
  dealing
• 13:01
  with
• 13:01
  change.
• 13:02
  Bob,
• 13:03
  can
• 13:03
  we
• 13:03
  just
• 13:03
  be
• 13:03
  a
• 13:04
  little
• 13:04
  specific?
• 13:04
  We're
• 13:05
  talking
• 13:05
  about
• 13:05
  schools
• 13:05
  like
• 13:06
  Dowling,
• 13:06
  Southampton
• 13:07
  no
• 13:07
  longer
• 13:07
  around.
• 13:07
  NYIT
• 13:08
  cuts
• 13:09
  athletics,
• 13:09
  you
• 13:10
  lose
• 13:10
  schools
• 13:10
  like
• 13:10
  New,
• 13:11
  New
• 13:11
  Haven,
• 13:11
  Adelphi
• 13:12
  out
• 13:12
  of
• 13:12
  the
• 13:12
  ecc
• 13:13
  and
• 13:13
  then
• 13:13
  you
• 13:14
  have
• 13:14
  to
• 13:14
  go
• 13:14
  out
• 13:14
  there
• 13:14
  and
• 13:14
  try
• 13:14
  and
• 13:15
  get
• 13:15
  schools
• 13:15
  like
• 13:16
  D.C.
• 13:16
  and
• 13:17
  up
• 13:17
  in
• 13:17
  Buffalo
• 13:17
  and
• 13:18
  Staten
• 13:19
  island
• 13:19
  and
• 13:19
  you're
• 13:20
  trying
• 13:20
  to
• 13:20
  grab
• 13:20
  schools.
• 13:21
  What
• 13:21
  is
• 13:22
  a
• 13:22
  typical
• 13:22
  budget
• 13:23
  like
• 13:23
  at
• 13:24
  a
• 13:24
  Division
• 13:24
  2
• 13:25
  level,
• 13:25
  you
• 13:25
  know,
• 13:25
  from
• 13:26
  top
• 13:26
  to
• 13:26
  bottom,
• 13:27
  you
• 13:27
  know,
• 13:27
  let's
• 13:27
  just
• 13:28
  say
• 13:28
  in
• 13:28
  comparison
• 13:29
  to
• 13:29
  a
• 13:29
  Division
• 13:29
  1
• 13:30
  school.
• 13:32
  Well,
• 13:33
  you
• 13:33
  know,
• 13:33
  and
• 13:33
  again,
• 13:34
  because
• 13:34
  it
• 13:34
  depends
• 13:35
  on
• 13:36
  which
• 13:36
  schools
• 13:37
  we're
• 13:37
  talking
• 13:37
  about.
• 13:38
  And
• 13:38
  it
• 13:38
  ran
• 13:39
  the
• 13:39
  gamut
• 13:39
  even
• 13:40
  within
• 13:40
  the
• 13:40
  ECC
• 13:42
  in
• 13:43
  Division
• 13:43
  2
• 13:44
  you
• 13:44
  need
• 13:45
  to
• 13:45
  have
• 13:45
  a
• 13:45
  minimum
• 13:45
  of
• 13:46
  10
• 13:46
  sports
• 13:48
  and
• 13:49
  either
• 13:50
  five
• 13:50
  men,
• 13:50
  five
• 13:51
  women
• 13:51
  or
• 13:51
  six
• 13:52
  women,
• 13:52
  four
• 13:52
  men.
• 13:53
  And
• 13:54
  in
• 13:54
  the
• 13:54
  ECC
• 13:55
  we
• 13:56
  had
• 13:56
  schools
• 13:57
  that
• 13:57
  were
• 13:57
  right
• 13:57
  at
• 13:57
  that
• 13:58
  10
• 13:59
  that
• 13:59
  made
• 13:59
  that
• 13:59
  decision
• 14:00
  for
• 14:00
  a
• 14:00
  few
• 14:00
  reasons.
• 14:01
  One
• 14:01
  would
• 14:01
  be
• 14:02
  for
• 14:02
  financial
• 14:03
  reasons
• 14:03
  because
• 14:04
  they
• 14:04
  were,
• 14:06
  they
• 14:06
  didn't
• 14:06
  feel
• 14:07
  like
• 14:07
  they
• 14:07
  would
• 14:07
  be
• 14:07
  able
• 14:07
  to
• 14:07
  fund
• 14:08
  a
• 14:08
  larger
• 14:09
  program
• 14:09
  or
• 14:10
  because
• 14:10
  they
• 14:10
  wanted
• 14:10
  to
• 14:11
  focus
• 14:11
  on
• 14:11
  being
• 14:11
  as
• 14:12
  good
• 14:12
  as
• 14:12
  they
• 14:12
  could
• 14:12
  in
• 14:13
  those
• 14:14
  sports
• 14:14
  that
• 14:14
  they
• 14:14
  had.
• 14:16
  And
• 14:16
  so
• 14:17
  those
• 14:17
  budgets
• 14:17
  would
• 14:18
  probably
• 14:18
  be
• 14:18
  at
• 14:18
  the
• 14:19
  lower
• 14:19
  end,
• 14:19
  both
• 14:20
  in
• 14:20
  terms
• 14:20
  of
• 14:20
  operating
• 14:21
  and
• 14:22
  scholarship,
• 14:24
  because,
• 14:24
  again,
• 14:25
  you
• 14:25
  know,
• 14:25
  schools
• 14:26
  would
• 14:26
  make
• 14:26
  their
• 14:26
  own
• 14:26
  decisions
• 14:27
  about
• 14:27
  how
• 14:27
  much
• 14:28
  they
• 14:28
  wanted
• 14:29
  to
• 14:29
  invest
• 14:29
  in
• 14:30
  scholarship
• 14:30
  money.
• 14:31
  Vision.
• 14:32
  And
• 14:33
  then.
• 14:34
  But
• 14:34
  then
• 14:35
  we
• 14:35
  had
• 14:35
  schools
• 14:36
  in
• 14:36
  the
• 14:36
  conference
• 14:36
  like
• 14:38
  St.
• 14:39
  Thomas
• 14:39
  Aquinas
• 14:40
  up
• 14:40
  in,
• 14:42
  you
• 14:42
  know,
• 14:42
  Upstate
• 14:43
  and
• 14:44
  Orange.
• 14:44
  Yeah.
• 14:46
  In
• 14:46
  Sparkle
• 14:47
  and
• 14:49
  Malloy,
• 14:49
  you
• 14:50
  know,
• 14:50
  who
• 14:50
  have
• 14:50
  added
• 14:50
  a
• 14:51
  ton
• 14:51
  of
• 14:51
  sports
• 14:51
  over
• 14:52
  the
• 14:52
  years
• 14:52
  because
• 14:54
  their
• 14:54
  strategy
• 14:55
  was
• 14:57
  trying
• 14:57
  to
• 14:57
  strengthen
• 14:58
  enrollment
• 14:58
  through
• 14:58
  college
• 14:59
  athletics.
• 15:00
  And
• 15:00
  so
• 15:00
  in
• 15:01
  Division
• 15:01
  2,
• 15:03
  there
• 15:03
  is
• 15:04
  no
• 15:04
  requirement.
• 15:05
  Every
• 15:06
  scholarship
• 15:06
  was
• 15:07
  a
• 15:07
  headcount
• 15:08
  sport.
• 15:08
  So
• 15:09
  you
• 15:09
  could
• 15:09
  take
• 15:10
  a
• 15:10
  chunk
• 15:10
  of
• 15:10
  money
• 15:11
  and
• 15:11
  divide
• 15:11
  it
• 15:11
  up
• 15:11
  as
• 15:12
  many
• 15:12
  ways
• 15:12
  as
• 15:12
  you
• 15:12
  can.
• 15:13
  And
• 15:13
  if
• 15:13
  enrollment
• 15:14
  was
• 15:14
  the
• 15:14
  key,
• 15:15
  you
• 15:15
  could
• 15:15
  use
• 15:15
  athletic
• 15:16
  aid
• 15:16
  as
• 15:17
  seed
• 15:17
  money,
• 15:18
  you
• 15:18
  know,
• 15:18
  to
• 15:19
  package
• 15:19
  students,
• 15:19
  to
• 15:20
  build
• 15:20
  a
• 15:20
  roster.
• 15:21
  Division
• 15:22
  1
• 15:23
  has
• 15:23
  gotten
• 15:23
  into
• 15:23
  that
• 15:24
  area
• 15:24
  a
• 15:24
  little
• 15:24
  bit
• 15:25
  more
• 15:26
  now
• 15:27
  with
• 15:27
  some
• 15:27
  of
• 15:27
  the
• 15:27
  rule
• 15:28
  changes.
• 15:28
  But
• 15:29
  so,
• 15:29
  you
• 15:30
  know,
• 15:30
  in
• 15:30
  terms
• 15:30
  of
• 15:30
  operating
• 15:31
  budget,
• 15:32
  you
• 15:32
  know,
• 15:33
  at
• 15:33
  one
• 15:33
  point
• 15:34
  I
• 15:35
  should
• 15:35
  tell
• 15:35
  you
• 15:35
  that,
• 15:36
  you
• 15:36
  know,
• 15:36
  Mike
• 15:37
  mentioned
• 15:37
  in
• 15:37
  terms
• 15:38
  of,
• 15:38
  you
• 15:38
  know,
• 15:39
  our
• 15:39
  local
• 15:39
  Division
• 15:40
  2
• 15:41
  athletic
• 15:41
  conference,
• 15:42
  and
• 15:42
  for
• 15:42
  a
• 15:42
  long
• 15:42
  time,
• 15:46
  the
• 15:46
  majority
• 15:46
  of
• 15:46
  the
• 15:46
  schools
• 15:47
  in
• 15:48
  the
• 15:48
  old
• 15:48
  New
• 15:48
  York
• 15:48
  Collegiate
• 15:49
  Athletic
• 15:49
  Conference
• 15:50
  and
• 15:50
  then
• 15:50
  the
• 15:50
  east
• 15:51
  and
• 15:51
  then
• 15:51
  changed
• 15:52
  the
• 15:52
  name
• 15:52
  to
• 15:52
  East
• 15:52
  Coast
• 15:52
  Conference
• 15:53
  were
• 15:55
  local.
• 15:56
  We
• 15:56
  were
• 15:57
  the
• 15:58
  most
• 15:58
  closely
• 15:59
  located
• 16:00
  Division
• 16:00
  2
• 16:00
  conference
• 16:01
  in
• 16:01
  the
• 16:01
  country.
• 16:01
  At
• 16:02
  one
• 16:02
  point,
• 16:03
  when
• 16:04
  we
• 16:04
  started
• 16:04
  losing
• 16:05
  those
• 16:05
  schools
• 16:05
  you
• 16:05
  mentioned,
• 16:06
  Chris,
• 16:06
  we
• 16:06
  lost
• 16:06
  Concordia.
• 16:07
  We
• 16:07
  lost.
• 16:08
  As
• 16:08
  I
• 16:08
  was
• 16:08
  coming
• 16:08
  in,
• 16:09
  Adelphi
• 16:10
  and
• 16:10
  Concordia
• 16:11
  were
• 16:11
  leaving.
• 16:12
  Those
• 16:13
  athletic
• 16:14
  directors
• 16:14
  were
• 16:14
  friends
• 16:15
  of
• 16:15
  mine,
• 16:15
  but
• 16:15
  they
• 16:15
  had
• 16:15
  made
• 16:16
  that
• 16:16
  decision
• 16:16
  and
• 16:17
  they
• 16:17
  felt
• 16:20
  for
• 16:20
  their
• 16:20
  own
• 16:21
  needs
• 16:21
  and
• 16:22
  their
• 16:22
  own
• 16:23
  direction.
• 16:24
  They
• 16:25
  felt
• 16:25
  they
• 16:25
  needed
• 16:25
  to
• 16:26
  make
• 16:26
  a
• 16:26
  change
• 16:26
  into
• 16:27
  other
• 16:27
  Division
• 16:27
  2
• 16:27
  conferences,
• 16:28
  but
• 16:29
  we
• 16:29
  needed
• 16:29
  to
• 16:30
  continue.
• 16:31
  And
• 16:31
  so
• 16:31
  at
• 16:32
  one
• 16:32
  point
• 16:32
  we
• 16:32
  were
• 16:32
  eight.
• 16:33
  And
• 16:33
  then,
• 16:33
  as
• 16:33
  you
• 16:33
  said,
• 16:34
  we
• 16:34
  added
• 16:35
  University,
• 16:35
  District
• 16:36
  of
• 16:36
  Columbia,
• 16:37
  and
• 16:37
  then
• 16:38
  later
• 16:39
  Roberts
• 16:40
  Wesleyan
• 16:40
  from
• 16:43
  Rochester
• 16:44
  and
• 16:44
  then
• 16:44
  Damon
• 16:45
  from
• 16:45
  Buffalo,
• 16:45
  and
• 16:45
  then
• 16:46
  d'
• 16:46
  youville
• 16:46
  came
• 16:46
  in
• 16:47
  from
• 16:47
  Buffalo.
• 16:48
  And
• 16:48
  then
• 16:48
  all
• 16:48
  of
• 16:49
  a
• 16:49
  sudden
• 16:49
  our
• 16:49
  footprint
• 16:50
  was
• 16:52
  very
• 16:52
  different.
• 16:53
  And
• 16:54
  you
• 16:54
  could
• 16:54
  imagine
• 16:55
  the
• 16:55
  stress
• 16:55
  that
• 16:56
  that
• 16:56
  could
• 16:57
  create
• 16:57
  on
• 16:58
  time
• 16:58
  travel.
• 16:59
  Travel
• 16:59
  on
• 16:59
  budgets,
• 17:01
  and
• 17:02
  continues
• 17:03
  to,
• 17:03
  you
• 17:04
  know,
• 17:05
  it's
• 17:05
  not
• 17:05
  an
• 17:06
  easy.
• 17:06
  But
• 17:07
  if
• 17:08
  you
• 17:08
  need.
• 17:09
  Truly,
• 17:09
  there
• 17:10
  are.
• 17:11
  There's
• 17:11
  Maybe
• 17:12
  one
• 17:12
  or
• 17:12
  two
• 17:12
  independent
• 17:13
  schools
• 17:14
  in
• 17:14
  all
• 17:14
  of
• 17:14
  Division
• 17:15
  2.
• 17:15
  Maybe
• 17:16
  one.
• 17:16
  And
• 17:17
  you
• 17:17
  need
• 17:17
  to
• 17:18
  be
• 17:18
  in
• 17:18
  a
• 17:18
  conference
• 17:18
  for
• 17:19
  a
• 17:19
  lot
• 17:19
  of
• 17:19
  reasons.
• 17:19
  Scheduling,
• 17:21
  access
• 17:21
  to
• 17:22
  post
• 17:22
  season,
• 17:24
  you
• 17:25
  know,
• 17:25
  just
• 17:25
  viability
• 17:26
  of
• 17:26
  a
• 17:26
  program,
• 17:26
  you
• 17:27
  know,
• 17:27
  to
• 17:27
  meet,
• 17:28
  you
• 17:28
  know,
• 17:28
  in
• 17:28
  the
• 17:28
  old
• 17:28
  days
• 17:29
  of
• 17:29
  traveling
• 17:29
  around.
• 17:30
  And
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  other
• 17:30
  part
• 17:31
  is
• 17:31
  that
• 17:31
  in
• 17:31
  the
• 17:31
  old
• 17:32
  days
• 17:32
  that
• 17:32
  I
• 17:32
  used
• 17:32
  to
• 17:32
  talk
• 17:33
  about,
• 17:34
  you
• 17:34
  know,
• 17:34
  when
• 17:34
  I
• 17:34
  first
• 17:34
  started
• 17:34
  at
• 17:35
  St.
• 17:35
  John's
• 17:35
  you
• 17:35
  know,
• 17:36
  St.
• 17:36
  John's
• 17:36
  would
• 17:37
  play,
• 17:37
  you
• 17:37
  know,
• 17:38
  against,
• 17:39
  you
• 17:39
  know,
• 17:39
  CW
• 17:40
  post
• 17:40
  or
• 17:41
  pace
• 17:41
  or
• 17:42
  a
• 17:42
  lot
• 17:42
  of
• 17:42
  those
• 17:43
  schools
• 17:43
  had,
• 17:43
  for
• 17:43
  example,
• 17:44
  Division
• 17:44
  1
• 17:44
  baseball
• 17:45
  back
• 17:46
  then.
• 17:46
  New
• 17:46
  York
• 17:47
  Tech.
• 17:48
  New
• 17:49
  York
• 17:49
  Tech.
• 17:50
  And
• 17:50
  you
• 17:50
  could
• 17:50
  fill
• 17:51
  out
• 17:51
  your
• 17:51
  schedule
• 17:51
  with,
• 17:52
  with,
• 17:52
  you
• 17:52
  know,
• 17:52
  other
• 17:53
  smaller
• 17:53
  schools.
• 17:54
  Not
• 17:54
  today.
• 17:54
  You
• 17:55
  know,
• 17:55
  you
• 17:55
  can't
• 17:55
  do
• 17:55
  that
• 17:56
  today.
• 17:56
  There's
• 17:56
  the.
• 17:57
  You
• 17:57
  can't
• 17:57
  do
• 17:57
  it
• 17:57
  today
• 17:58
  for,
• 17:58
  for,
• 17:59
  you
• 17:59
  know,
• 17:59
  for
• 17:59
  post
• 17:59
  season
• 18:00
  opportunities.
• 18:01
  You
• 18:01
  can't
• 18:01
  do
• 18:01
  it
• 18:01
  because
• 18:02
  you're
• 18:02
  recruiting
• 18:02
  athletes
• 18:03
  and
• 18:03
  they
• 18:03
  don't
• 18:03
  want
• 18:03
  to
• 18:04
  hear
• 18:04
  about
• 18:04
  playing
• 18:05
  the
• 18:05
  local
• 18:06
  D3
• 18:06
  school
• 18:07
  down
• 18:07
  the
• 18:07
  street.
• 18:08
  And
• 18:08
  so
• 18:09
  that's
• 18:10
  very
• 18:10
  challenging.
• 18:12
  There's
• 18:12
  a
• 18:12
  major
• 18:13
  gap
• 18:14
  in
• 18:14
  some
• 18:14
  ways
• 18:16
  in
• 18:16
  most
• 18:17
  places
• 18:17
  between
• 18:17
  Division
• 18:18
  one
• 18:18
  and
• 18:18
  Division
• 18:19
  two.
• 18:19
  Much
• 18:19
  smaller
• 18:20
  between
• 18:20
  two
• 18:21
  and
• 18:21
  three.
• 18:24
  And
• 18:24
  then
• 18:24
  there
• 18:24
  are
• 18:24
  programs
• 18:25
  around
• 18:25
  the
• 18:25
  country
• 18:26
  in
• 18:27
  Division
• 18:27
  2
• 18:27
  which
• 18:28
  are,
• 18:29
  you
• 18:29
  know,
• 18:30
  really
• 18:30
  probably
• 18:31
  closer
• 18:31
  to
• 18:31
  Division
• 18:32
  1.
• 18:32
  Programs
• 18:33
  than
• 18:33
  not
• 18:34
  some
• 18:34
  in
• 18:34
  the
• 18:34
  Midwest
• 18:35
  especially.
• 18:36
  Yep.
• 18:37
  Yeah.
• 18:37
  Grand
• 18:38
  Valley
• 18:38
  and
• 18:38
  schools
• 18:38
  like
• 18:39
  that.
• 18:39
  Yep,
• 18:39
  definitely.
• 18:40
  Again,
• 18:40
  we're
• 18:41
  talking
• 18:41
  to
• 18:41
  Dr.
• 18:41
  Bob
• 18:41
  Dranoff,
• 18:42
  recently
• 18:43
  the
• 18:43
  head
• 18:44
  of
• 18:44
  the
• 18:44
  East
• 18:44
  Coast
• 18:44
  Conference,
• 18:45
  retired,
• 18:46
  and
• 18:46
  now
• 18:46
  he's
• 18:46
  teaching
• 18:47
  over
• 18:47
  at
• 18:47
  St.
• 18:47
  John's
• 18:48
  in
• 18:48
  their
• 18:48
  graduate
• 18:48
  program.
• 18:49
  And
• 18:49
  Bob,
• 18:49
  as
• 18:50
  you
• 18:50
  were
• 18:50
  mentioning
• 18:50
  some
• 18:50
  of
• 18:50
  the
• 18:51
  schools,
• 18:51
  I
• 18:51
  think
• 18:51
  I
• 18:51
  came
• 18:52
  up
• 18:52
  with
• 18:52
  a
• 18:53
  link
• 18:53
  that
• 18:53
  we
• 18:53
  need
• 18:53
  to
• 18:54
  think
• 18:54
  about
• 18:54
  here.
• 18:55
  You
• 18:55
  mentioned
• 18:55
  Dowling,
• 18:56
  NYIT
• 18:57
  and
• 18:57
  Southampton.
• 18:58
  I
• 18:58
  coached
• 18:59
  at
• 18:59
  all
• 18:59
  three
• 18:59
  of
• 18:59
  those
• 18:59
  and
• 19:00
  now
• 19:00
  they're
• 19:00
  all
• 19:00
  closed.
• 19:01
  I
• 19:01
  think
• 19:01
  I
• 19:01
  got
• 19:01
  to
• 19:01
  stay
• 19:01
  out
• 19:01
  of
• 19:02
  division,
• 19:02
  too.
• 19:02
  NYIT
• 19:03
  is
• 19:03
  still
• 19:03
  there.
• 19:03
  They
• 19:03
  just
• 19:03
  don't
• 19:04
  have
• 19:04
  athletics.
• 19:04
  Well,
• 19:04
  at
• 19:04
  least
• 19:04
  athletics,
• 19:05
  yeah,
• 19:06
  they
• 19:06
  dropped
• 19:06
  there
• 19:06
  at
• 19:07
  Grim
• 19:07
  Reaper,
• 19:08
  but
• 19:08
  I
• 19:09
  think.
• 19:09
  You
• 19:09
  could
• 19:09
  still
• 19:09
  take
• 19:09
  credit
• 19:10
  for
• 19:10
  that.
• 19:11
  Well,
• 19:11
  I
• 19:11
  appreciate
• 19:12
  that,
• 19:12
  but
• 19:12
  you
• 19:12
  know
• 19:12
  what,
• 19:13
  I
• 19:13
  know
• 19:13
  we're
• 19:13
  kind
• 19:13
  of
• 19:14
  making
• 19:14
  light
• 19:14
  of
• 19:14
  it,
• 19:14
  but
• 19:15
  let's
• 19:15
  take
• 19:15
  a
• 19:15
  school
• 19:16
  like
• 19:16
  NYIT
• 19:16
  who
• 19:17
  unfortunately,
• 19:18
  you
• 19:18
  know,
• 19:18
  had
• 19:19
  again,
• 19:19
  had
• 19:19
  success,
• 19:20
  had
• 19:20
  a
• 19:20
  Division
• 19:20
  1
• 19:21
  program
• 19:22
  drop
• 19:22
  their
• 19:22
  athletic
• 19:23
  program.
• 19:24
  You
• 19:24
  know,
• 19:24
  you're
• 19:25
  talking
• 19:25
  about
• 19:26
  budgets
• 19:26
  and
• 19:27
  this
• 19:27
  is
• 19:27
  real
• 19:28
  stuff,
• 19:28
  especially
• 19:28
  when
• 19:28
  you're
• 19:29
  in
• 19:29
  a
• 19:29
  conference
• 19:29
  where
• 19:29
  you're
• 19:30
  traveling
• 19:30
  up
• 19:31
  to
• 19:31
  Buffalo
• 19:32
  and,
• 19:32
  you
• 19:32
  know,
• 19:33
  all
• 19:33
  around.
• 19:33
  And
• 19:33
  while
• 19:33
  it's
• 19:34
  not
• 19:34
  flying
• 19:35
  across
• 19:35
  the
• 19:35
  country,
• 19:36
  still
• 19:36
  these
• 19:37
  budgets
• 19:37
  are
• 19:38
  worth,
• 19:38
  you
• 19:38
  know,
• 19:39
  talking
• 19:39
  about
• 19:39
  and
• 19:40
  really
• 19:40
  take
• 19:41
  up
• 19:41
  a
• 19:41
  good
• 19:41
  chunk
• 19:41
  of
• 19:41
  money.
• 19:42
  I
• 19:42
  don't
• 19:42
  have
• 19:42
  to
• 19:42
  tell
• 19:43
  you
• 19:43
  about
• 19:43
  that.
• 19:45
  We
• 19:46
  see
• 19:46
  recently
• 19:47
  some
• 19:47
  schools
• 19:48
  are
• 19:48
  even
• 19:48
  going.
• 19:48
  St.
• 19:49
  Francis,
• 19:50
  I
• 19:50
  believe
• 19:50
  in
• 19:50
  Pennsylvania,
• 19:51
  went
• 19:51
  Division
• 19:51
  3
• 19:52
  to
• 19:52
  Division
• 19:52
  1.
• 19:52
  Hartford
• 19:53
  a
• 19:53
  couple
• 19:53
  of
• 19:53
  years
• 19:54
  ago,
• 19:55
  Division
• 19:56
  2.
• 19:56
  I'm
• 19:56
  a
• 19:56
  big
• 19:56
  believer
• 19:57
  in
• 19:57
  it.
• 19:57
  I
• 19:57
  spent
• 19:57
  a
• 19:57
  lot
• 19:57
  of
• 19:57
  time
• 19:58
  in
• 19:58
  it,
• 19:58
  as
• 19:58
  did
• 19:58
  you.
• 20:00
  Does
• 20:00
  Division
• 20:00
  2
• 20:01
  have
• 20:01
  to
• 20:01
  prune
• 20:02
  itself,
• 20:02
  change
• 20:03
  a
• 20:03
  little
• 20:03
  bit
• 20:03
  or
• 20:04
  where
• 20:04
  it's
• 20:04
  at
• 20:04
  right
• 20:04
  now,
• 20:05
  is
• 20:05
  it
• 20:05
  really
• 20:05
  going
• 20:06
  to
• 20:06
  be
• 20:06
  able
• 20:06
  to
• 20:07
  sustain
• 20:07
  that
• 20:07
  niche,
• 20:08
  do
• 20:08
  you
• 20:08
  think?
• 20:10
  You
• 20:11
  know,
• 20:13
  even
• 20:13
  before
• 20:13
  I
• 20:14
  retired
• 20:15
  a
• 20:16
  couple
• 20:16
  years
• 20:16
  ago.
• 20:16
  I
• 20:16
  was
• 20:17
  on
• 20:17
  the
• 20:18
  NCAA
• 20:18
  Division
• 20:18
  2
• 20:19
  Management
• 20:19
  Council
• 20:19
  for
• 20:20
  a
• 20:20
  long
• 20:20
  time.
• 20:22
  It's
• 20:22
  the
• 20:22
  body
• 20:22
  that
• 20:22
  helps
• 20:23
  make
• 20:23
  a
• 20:23
  lot
• 20:23
  of
• 20:24
  the
• 20:24
  decisions
• 20:24
  and
• 20:25
  represents
• 20:25
  the
• 20:26
  institutions
• 20:26
  and
• 20:27
  the
• 20:27
  conferences
• 20:28
  in
• 20:28
  Division
• 20:29
  2.
• 20:30
  And
• 20:30
  so
• 20:30
  I
• 20:31
  was
• 20:31
  part
• 20:31
  of
• 20:31
  a
• 20:31
  lot
• 20:31
  of
• 20:31
  discussions
• 20:32
  and
• 20:32
  a
• 20:32
  lot
• 20:32
  of
• 20:33
  reviews
• 20:33
  of
• 20:33
  plan.
• 20:34
  I
• 20:34
  would
• 20:34
  say
• 20:35
  to
• 20:35
  you
• 20:35
  that
• 20:35
  Division
• 20:36
  2
• 20:37
  and
• 20:38
  you
• 20:38
  know,
• 20:39
  I'm
• 20:39
  biased.
• 20:40
  Like
• 20:40
  you,
• 20:40
  Mike,
• 20:41
  I'm
• 20:42
  biased.
• 20:42
  I
• 20:43
  feel
• 20:43
  in
• 20:44
  a
• 20:44
  lot
• 20:44
  of
• 20:44
  ways
• 20:44
  it's
• 20:45
  almost
• 20:45
  the
• 20:45
  perfect
• 20:46
  concept
• 20:47
  of
• 20:47
  college
• 20:48
  athletics
• 20:48
  in
• 20:49
  that
• 20:49
  it
• 20:49
  does
• 20:50
  permit
• 20:51
  schools
• 20:51
  that
• 20:51
  are
• 20:52
  committed
• 20:52
  to
• 20:53
  being
• 20:53
  really
• 20:54
  strong
• 20:54
  athletically
• 20:55
  to
• 20:55
  give
• 20:56
  scholarship
• 20:56
  money.
• 20:57
  And
• 20:57
  it's
• 20:57
  not
• 20:58
  just
• 20:58
  to
• 20:58
  have
• 20:59
  strong
• 21:00
  athletics
• 21:01
  or,
• 21:01
  you
• 21:01
  know,
• 21:02
  successful
• 21:02
  teams
• 21:03
  that
• 21:03
  are
• 21:03
  winning
• 21:04
  national
• 21:04
  championships.
• 21:05
  But
• 21:05
  the
• 21:05
  idea
• 21:06
  behind
• 21:06
  it
• 21:06
  is
• 21:07
  schools
• 21:08
  are
• 21:08
  using
• 21:08
  that
• 21:09
  money
• 21:09
  to
• 21:10
  maintain
• 21:11
  programs,
• 21:12
  to
• 21:13
  build
• 21:13
  programs,
• 21:14
  to
• 21:14
  attract
• 21:15
  students
• 21:15
  to
• 21:15
  their
• 21:16
  school.
• 21:16
  But
• 21:17
  the
• 21:17
  idea
• 21:17
  always
• 21:17
  behind
• 21:18
  Division
• 21:18
  2
• 21:18
  was
• 21:19
  a
• 21:19
  concept
• 21:20
  of
• 21:20
  balance
• 21:20
  that,
• 21:21
  you
• 21:21
  know,
• 21:22
  the
• 21:23
  concept
• 21:23
  is
• 21:23
  there.
• 21:24
  You
• 21:24
  know,
• 21:24
  the
• 21:25
  reality
• 21:25
  is
• 21:25
  sometimes,
• 21:26
  unfortunately,
• 21:27
  I
• 21:27
  think
• 21:27
  in
• 21:27
  college
• 21:27
  athletics
• 21:28
  we've
• 21:28
  gotten
• 21:28
  to
• 21:28
  the
• 21:28
  point
• 21:29
  that,
• 21:29
  you
• 21:29
  know,
• 21:30
  most
• 21:30
  people
• 21:30
  think
• 21:31
  that
• 21:31
  athletics
• 21:31
  has
• 21:32
  to
• 21:32
  be
• 21:32
  year
• 21:32
  round,
• 21:32
  college
• 21:33
  athletics
• 21:33
  has
• 21:33
  to
• 21:33
  be
• 21:34
  a
• 21:34
  year
• 21:34
  round
• 21:34
  effort.
• 21:36
  But
• 21:37
  in
• 21:37
  my
• 21:38
  mind,
• 21:38
  I
• 21:38
  think
• 21:38
  Division
• 21:39
  2
• 21:39
  is
• 21:40
  a
• 21:40
  perfect
• 21:40
  spot
• 21:41
  because
• 21:42
  it
• 21:43
  doesn't
• 21:43
  require
• 21:45
  students
• 21:45
  traveling
• 21:45
  all
• 21:46
  over
• 21:46
  the
• 21:46
  country
• 21:46
  to
• 21:47
  compete.
• 21:48
  It's
• 21:49
  a
• 21:49
  little
• 21:49
  bit
• 21:49
  less
• 21:49
  of
• 21:50
  an
• 21:50
  emphasis
• 21:50
  on
• 21:52
  the
• 21:52
  full
• 21:53
  time
• 21:53
  athletic
• 21:53
  program
• 21:54
  and
• 21:55
  it
• 21:55
  looks
• 21:55
  for
• 21:55
  students
• 21:56
  to
• 21:56
  be
• 21:56
  able
• 21:56
  to
• 21:57
  really
• 21:57
  get
• 21:57
  involved
• 21:58
  and
• 21:58
  be
• 21:58
  part
• 21:58
  of
• 21:58
  other
• 21:59
  things
• 21:59
  on
• 21:59
  their
• 21:59
  campuses.
• 22:01
  So
• 22:02
  I'm
• 22:02
  pretty
• 22:02
  proud
• 22:02
  of
• 22:03
  Division
• 22:03
  2
• 22:03
  in
• 22:04
  my
• 22:04
  time
• 22:04
  there.
• 22:04
  So
• 22:05
  I
• 22:05
  think
• 22:05
  that
• 22:05
  it
• 22:06
  has
• 22:06
  the
• 22:06
  right
• 22:06
  concept.
• 22:07
  I
• 22:07
  think
• 22:07
  though,
• 22:09
  like
• 22:09
  a
• 22:09
  lot
• 22:09
  of
• 22:10
  other
• 22:10
  things
• 22:12
  in
• 22:12
  higher
• 22:12
  education
• 22:13
  and
• 22:13
  college
• 22:13
  athletics,
• 22:14
  we
• 22:14
  look
• 22:14
  around
• 22:14
  and
• 22:14
  we
• 22:15
  see
• 22:15
  change
• 22:16
  at
• 22:16
  one
• 22:16
  level
• 22:17
  and
• 22:17
  then
• 22:17
  all
• 22:17
  of
• 22:17
  a
• 22:17
  sudden
• 22:18
  everybody
• 22:18
  else
• 22:19
  feels
• 22:19
  like
• 22:19
  they
• 22:19
  have
• 22:20
  to
• 22:21
  follow
• 22:22
  along.
• 22:24
  Division
• 22:24
  two
• 22:25
  is
• 22:25
  growing
• 22:25
  significantly.
• 22:26
  I
• 22:26
  also
• 22:27
  at
• 22:27
  one
• 22:27
  point
• 22:27
  was
• 22:28
  the
• 22:28
  chair
• 22:28
  of
• 22:28
  the
• 22:28
  Division
• 22:29
  2
• 22:29
  membership
• 22:30
  committee
• 22:31
  and
• 22:31
  Division
• 22:32
  2
• 22:32
  was
• 22:33
  growing
• 22:33
  at
• 22:33
  a
• 22:33
  pretty
• 22:34
  good
• 22:34
  clip
• 22:34
  and
• 22:34
  that
• 22:35
  seems
• 22:35
  to
• 22:36
  have,
• 22:38
  you
• 22:38
  know,
• 22:38
  quiet
• 22:38
  it
• 22:38
  down
• 22:39
  a
• 22:39
  little
• 22:39
  bit.
• 22:39
  But
• 22:40
  part
• 22:40
  of,
• 22:40
  you
• 22:40
  know,
• 22:40
  you're
• 22:41
  right,
• 22:41
  schools
• 22:41
  have
• 22:41
  closed,
• 22:42
  schools
• 22:42
  have
• 22:42
  moved.
• 22:43
  New
• 22:43
  York
• 22:44
  Tech,
• 22:44
  I
• 22:45
  still
• 22:45
  recall
• 22:46
  getting
• 22:46
  the
• 22:46
  call
• 22:47
  from
• 22:47
  their
• 22:47
  president
• 22:48
  when
• 22:48
  they
• 22:48
  announced
• 22:48
  they
• 22:49
  were
• 22:49
  dropping
• 22:49
  athletics.
• 22:51
  They
• 22:51
  made
• 22:51
  the
• 22:52
  decision.
• 22:52
  It
• 22:52
  was,
• 22:53
  it
• 22:53
  was
• 22:54
  during
• 22:54
  the
• 22:54
  COVID
• 22:55
  two
• 22:55
  years.
• 22:57
  People,
• 22:57
  you
• 22:57
  know,
• 22:57
  the
• 22:57
  schools
• 22:58
  were
• 22:58
  challenged
• 22:59
  enrollment
• 22:59
  wise
• 23:00
  and
• 23:01
  financially.
• 23:01
  They
• 23:02
  were
• 23:02
  making
• 23:02
  tough
• 23:02
  decisions.
• 23:03
  And
• 23:03
  I
• 23:04
  think
• 23:04
  New
• 23:04
  York
• 23:04
  Tech
• 23:04
  felt
• 23:05
  that
• 23:06
  in
• 23:06
  order
• 23:06
  to
• 23:08
  try
• 23:09
  to
• 23:09
  come
• 23:09
  up
• 23:09
  with
• 23:10
  some
• 23:11
  significant
• 23:11
  savings
• 23:12
  that
• 23:12
  this
• 23:12
  could
• 23:13
  help
• 23:13
  them.
• 23:13
  That
• 23:14
  was
• 23:14
  the
• 23:14
  second
• 23:14
  time
• 23:14
  they
• 23:15
  dropped.
• 23:15
  Yeah.
• 23:16
  Athletics
• 23:16
  in
• 23:17
  the
• 23:17
  history
• 23:17
  of
• 23:17
  the.
• 23:17
  Of
• 23:18
  the.
• 23:19
  That's
• 23:19
  right,
• 23:19
  yeah.
• 23:19
  Institution.
• 23:21
  I
• 23:22
  remember
• 23:22
  they
• 23:22
  dropped
• 23:23
  it
• 23:23
  when
• 23:23
  I
• 23:23
  was
• 23:23
  the
• 23:23
  AD
• 23:23
  over
• 23:24
  at
• 23:24
  Old
• 23:24
  Westbury
• 23:25
  because
• 23:25
  Tech
• 23:26
  used
• 23:26
  to
• 23:26
  use
• 23:26
  our
• 23:26
  gym
• 23:27
  at
• 23:27
  Old
• 23:27
  Westbury
• 23:28
  to
• 23:28
  play
• 23:29
  their
• 23:29
  basketball
• 23:29
  games.
• 23:30
  But,
• 23:31
  you
• 23:31
  know,
• 23:31
  I.
• 23:32
  I
• 23:32
  think
• 23:32
  that
• 23:33
  schools
• 23:34
  look
• 23:34
  at
• 23:34
  athletics
• 23:35
  for
• 23:35
  lots
• 23:35
  of
• 23:35
  reasons.
• 23:36
  I
• 23:36
  mentioned
• 23:36
  enrollment,
• 23:38
  you
• 23:38
  know,
• 23:41
  even
• 23:41
  at
• 23:42
  the.
• 23:42
  Even
• 23:43
  at
• 23:43
  smaller
• 23:43
  institutions,
• 23:46
  you
• 23:47
  know,
• 23:47
  schools
• 23:48
  use
• 23:48
  it
• 23:48
  as
• 23:50
  a
• 23:50
  way
• 23:50
  to
• 23:51
  build
• 23:51
  morale,
• 23:52
  to
• 23:53
  build
• 23:53
  connections
• 23:53
  with
• 23:54
  their
• 23:54
  community,
• 23:55
  with
• 23:55
  their
• 23:55
  campus
• 23:56
  community,
• 23:56
  you
• 23:57
  know,
• 23:57
  to
• 23:58
  connect
• 23:58
  more
• 23:58
  with
• 23:58
  the
• 23:59
  general
• 23:59
  student
• 24:00
  population.
• 24:02
  Very
• 24:02
  few
• 24:03
  Division
• 24:03
  2
• 24:03
  schools
• 24:04
  are
• 24:04
  making
• 24:04
  any
• 24:05
  kind
• 24:05
  of
• 24:05
  significant
• 24:06
  money,
• 24:06
  maybe
• 24:06
  a
• 24:06
  little
• 24:07
  bit
• 24:07
  of
• 24:07
  sponsorship
• 24:07
  money
• 24:08
  here
• 24:08
  and
• 24:08
  there,
• 24:08
  maybe,
• 24:09
  you
• 24:09
  know,
• 24:09
  from
• 24:10
  their
• 24:10
  streaming
• 24:10
  contracts,
• 24:11
  because
• 24:11
  even
• 24:12
  Division
• 24:12
  2
• 24:12
  schools
• 24:12
  now
• 24:13
  get
• 24:13
  some
• 24:13
  money
• 24:13
  from
• 24:13
  that.
• 24:15
  But
• 24:15
  it's
• 24:16
  not
• 24:16
  like
• 24:16
  they're
• 24:17
  driven,
• 24:17
  you
• 24:18
  know,
• 24:18
  to
• 24:18
  be
• 24:18
  raising
• 24:19
  money
• 24:19
  for
• 24:19
  nil.
• 24:20
  And
• 24:21
  there's
• 24:22
  no
• 24:22
  revenue
• 24:22
  share
• 24:23
  money
• 24:23
  going
• 24:23
  on
• 24:23
  with
• 24:24
  student
• 24:24
  athletes.
• 24:26
  But
• 24:26
  so
• 24:27
  there's
• 24:27
  so
• 24:27
  much
• 24:27
  value,
• 24:27
  I
• 24:28
  think,
• 24:28
  to
• 24:28
  college
• 24:29
  programs.
• 24:29
  But
• 24:29
  I
• 24:30
  think
• 24:30
  some
• 24:30
  other
• 24:30
  schools
• 24:31
  are
• 24:31
  being
• 24:31
  realistic
• 24:32
  about
• 24:32
  what
• 24:33
  they
• 24:33
  can
• 24:33
  afford
• 24:34
  and
• 24:34
  where
• 24:34
  they
• 24:35
  can
• 24:35
  compete
• 24:35
  and
• 24:36
  what
• 24:36
  their
• 24:36
  future
• 24:36
  is.
• 24:37
  You
• 24:37
  know,
• 24:38
  within
• 24:39
  the
• 24:39
  Northeast
• 24:40
  region,
• 24:41
  a
• 24:41
  perfect
• 24:42
  scenario,
• 24:42
  a
• 24:43
  perfect
• 24:43
  picture
• 24:43
  is
• 24:44
  the
• 24:45
  Northeast
• 24:45
  tent.
• 24:46
  Conference
• 24:47
  Commissioner
• 24:48
  Julie
• 24:48
  Rupert
• 24:48
  is
• 24:49
  a
• 24:49
  close
• 24:49
  friend
• 24:49
  of
• 24:49
  mine.
• 24:51
  They
• 24:51
  have.
• 24:53
  They
• 24:53
  had
• 24:54
  grown
• 24:54
  significantly,
• 24:55
  but
• 24:56
  in
• 24:56
  the
• 24:56
  last
• 24:57
  five
• 24:57
  or
• 24:57
  six
• 24:58
  years,
• 24:58
  they're
• 24:58
  all
• 24:59
  going.
• 24:59
  I'm
• 24:59
  not
• 24:59
  even
• 25:00
  sure
• 25:00
  what
• 25:00
  the.
• 25:00
  Yeah,
• 25:00
  I'm
• 25:01
  not
• 25:01
  sure
• 25:01
  what
• 25:01
  the
• 25:01
  number
• 25:01
  is
• 25:02
  now,
• 25:02
  but
• 25:03
  they've.
• 25:03
  They
• 25:04
  lost
• 25:04
  New
• 25:05
  Haven
• 25:05
  last
• 25:05
  year,
• 25:06
  and
• 25:06
  then
• 25:07
  more
• 25:07
  recently,
• 25:07
  just
• 25:08
  a
• 25:08
  couple
• 25:08
  of
• 25:08
  weeks
• 25:08
  ago,
• 25:09
  St.
• 25:09
  Anselm,
• 25:10
  which
• 25:11
  was.
• 25:12
  They're
• 25:12
  moving
• 25:12
  to
• 25:12
  Division
• 25:13
  3.
• 25:13
  Why
• 25:14
  do
• 25:14
  schools
• 25:14
  move
• 25:14
  to
• 25:15
  the
• 25:15
  Division
• 25:15
  3?
• 25:16
  Well,
• 25:16
  maybe
• 25:16
  because
• 25:16
  of
• 25:17
  the
• 25:17
  scholarship
• 25:17
  budget.
• 25:19
  They
• 25:19
  don't.
• 25:19
  You
• 25:19
  know,
• 25:19
  they
• 25:20
  feel
• 25:20
  that
• 25:20
  they
• 25:20
  could
• 25:20
  have
• 25:20
  a
• 25:21
  savings
• 25:21
  there,
• 25:21
  even
• 25:21
  though
• 25:22
  a
• 25:22
  lot
• 25:22
  of
• 25:22
  schools
• 25:22
  look
• 25:22
  at
• 25:22
  scholarship,
• 25:23
  again,
• 25:23
  like
• 25:23
  I
• 25:24
  said,
• 25:24
  as
• 25:24
  seed
• 25:24
  money.
• 25:25
  We
• 25:25
  could
• 25:25
  give
• 25:26
  a
• 25:26
  little
• 25:26
  bit
• 25:26
  of
• 25:26
  money,
• 25:27
  and
• 25:27
  then
• 25:27
  maybe
• 25:28
  that
• 25:28
  grows
• 25:28
  our
• 25:29
  population.
• 25:30
  St.
• 25:30
  Anselm's
• 25:31
  felt
• 25:31
  that
• 25:31
  they
• 25:31
  are
• 25:32
  better
• 25:32
  served,
• 25:32
  and
• 25:33
  they're
• 25:33
  serving
• 25:33
  their
• 25:34
  students
• 25:36
  and
• 25:36
  their
• 25:36
  community
• 25:37
  better
• 25:37
  by
• 25:37
  being
• 25:37
  in
• 25:38
  Division
• 25:38
  2
• 25:38
  and
• 25:38
  focusing
• 25:39
  more.
• 25:40
  Less
• 25:40
  on
• 25:41
  athletics
• 25:42
  and
• 25:42
  more
• 25:42
  on
• 25:42
  academics,
• 25:43
  which,
• 25:44
  you
• 25:44
  know,
• 25:44
  you
• 25:45
  can't
• 25:45
  fault
• 25:45
  the
• 25:45
  school
• 25:46
  for
• 25:47
  moving
• 25:47
  in
• 25:47
  that
• 25:47
  direction
• 25:48
  either.
• 25:48
  But
• 25:49
  that's
• 25:49
  been
• 25:49
  a
• 25:49
  big
• 25:50
  blow
• 25:50
  to
• 25:50
  the
• 25:50
  NE10,
• 25:51
  which
• 25:51
  was
• 25:52
  a
• 25:52
  powerhouse
• 25:53
  for
• 25:53
  a
• 25:53
  long
• 25:54
  time.
• 25:55
  Bob,
• 25:56
  we
• 25:56
  love
• 25:56
  all
• 25:56
  your
• 25:56
  answers,
• 25:57
  and
• 25:57
  you've
• 25:57
  done
• 25:57
  a
• 25:57
  good
• 25:58
  job
• 25:58
  with
• 25:58
  all
• 25:58
  this.
• 25:58
  I
• 25:58
  have
• 25:58
  a
• 25:59
  quick
• 25:59
  one
• 25:59
  that,
• 25:59
  you
• 25:59
  know,
• 26:00
  we
• 26:00
  forgot.
• 26:00
  One
• 26:00
  school
• 26:01
  in
• 26:01
  the
• 26:01
  ECC
• 26:02
  that
• 26:03
  had
• 26:03
  merged,
• 26:03
  and
• 26:04
  that's
• 26:04
  CW
• 26:04
  Post,
• 26:05
  and
• 26:05
  they
• 26:05
  merged
• 26:06
  with
• 26:07
  LIU
• 26:07
  Brooklyn.
• 26:08
  And
• 26:08
  I'm
• 26:08
  sure
• 26:08
  you
• 26:09
  saw
• 26:09
  recently
• 26:10
  that
• 26:10
  there
• 26:10
  were
• 26:10
  some
• 26:11
  situations
• 26:12
  where
• 26:13
  for
• 26:13
  years
• 26:14
  they
• 26:14
  basically
• 26:14
  were
• 26:14
  doing
• 26:15
  a
• 26:15
  bad
• 26:15
  job
• 26:15
  clerically.
• 26:18
  How
• 26:18
  do
• 26:18
  you
• 26:19
  really
• 26:19
  have
• 26:19
  a
• 26:19
  situation
• 26:20
  where
• 26:20
  you're
• 26:20
  merging
• 26:21
  a
• 26:21
  Division
• 26:21
  1
• 26:21
  and
• 26:22
  a
• 26:22
  Division
• 26:22
  2
• 26:22
  school
• 26:22
  and
• 26:23
  put
• 26:23
  one
• 26:23
  person
• 26:24
  in
• 26:24
  Charge
• 26:24
  of
• 26:24
  all
• 26:25
  the
• 26:25
  paperwork.
• 26:26
  I
• 26:26
  know
• 26:26
  you've
• 26:26
  probably
• 26:27
  worked
• 26:27
  with
• 26:27
  so
• 26:27
  many
• 26:28
  people.
• 26:28
  I
• 26:28
  mean,
• 26:28
  we
• 26:29
  can
• 26:29
  even
• 26:29
  talk
• 26:29
  about
• 26:29
  the
• 26:30
  late
• 26:30
  Clyde
• 26:30
  Dowdy.
• 26:30
  Like
• 26:31
  you've
• 26:31
  worked
• 26:31
  with
• 26:31
  some
• 26:32
  great
• 26:32
  people.
• 26:33
  How
• 26:33
  does
• 26:34
  two
• 26:34
  schools
• 26:35
  merge
• 26:36
  into
• 26:36
  one
• 26:37
  and
• 26:37
  have
• 26:37
  that
• 26:38
  many
• 26:38
  bad
• 26:38
  situations
• 26:39
  of
• 26:39
  clerical
• 26:40
  work
• 26:40
  when
• 26:40
  now
• 26:40
  they're
• 26:40
  on
• 26:41
  three
• 26:41
  year
• 26:41
  probation?
• 26:43
  Yeah,
• 26:43
  I,
• 26:44
  well,
• 26:45
  listen,
• 26:46
  so
• 26:46
  what
• 26:47
  was
• 26:47
  going
• 26:47
  on?
• 26:48
  And
• 26:48
  even
• 26:48
  before
• 26:49
  years
• 26:50
  ago,
• 26:50
  when
• 26:50
  Southampton
• 26:51
  was
• 26:51
  still
• 26:51
  open,
• 26:51
  they
• 26:52
  were
• 26:52
  part
• 26:52
  of
• 26:52
  the,
• 26:53
  the
• 26:53
  Liu
• 26:54
  system
• 26:54
  too.
• 26:54
  So
• 26:55
  you
• 26:55
  had
• 26:55
  two
• 26:55
  Division
• 26:56
  2
• 26:56
  schools
• 26:57
  and
• 26:57
  you
• 26:57
  had
• 26:58
  D1
• 26:58
  Liu.
• 27:01
  The
• 27:01
  decision.
• 27:02
  So
• 27:02
  it
• 27:02
  really
• 27:02
  was.
• 27:03
  Well,
• 27:03
  I
• 27:03
  guess
• 27:03
  maybe
• 27:04
  it
• 27:04
  could
• 27:04
  be
• 27:04
  termed
• 27:05
  a
• 27:05
  merger,
• 27:05
  but
• 27:05
  basically
• 27:06
  they
• 27:06
  closed
• 27:06
  down
• 27:07
  their
• 27:07
  Division
• 27:07
  2
• 27:08
  program
• 27:09
  and
• 27:10
  took
• 27:10
  all
• 27:10
  those,
• 27:10
  the
• 27:11
  sports
• 27:12
  and
• 27:12
  they
• 27:12
  just,
• 27:13
  you
• 27:13
  know,
• 27:13
  they
• 27:13
  said,
• 27:13
  okay,
• 27:14
  now
• 27:14
  we're
• 27:14
  just
• 27:14
  Division
• 27:15
  one.
• 27:15
  And
• 27:15
  they've
• 27:15
  grown
• 27:16
  massively
• 27:17
  even
• 27:17
  since
• 27:17
  that
• 27:18
  time.
• 27:18
  I
• 27:18
  don't,
• 27:18
  I
• 27:18
  don't
• 27:19
  know.
• 27:19
  There
• 27:19
  are
• 27:19
  over
• 27:19
  30
• 27:19
  sports
• 27:20
  now
• 27:20
  that
• 27:20
  they're
• 27:20
  offering
• 27:21
  at
• 27:21
  LIU.
• 27:22
  It's
• 27:23
  pretty,
• 27:23
  pretty
• 27:24
  crazy.
• 27:24
  But
• 27:26
  how
• 27:26
  that
• 27:26
  happens
• 27:27
  is,
• 27:27
  I
• 27:28
  mean,
• 27:28
  I've
• 27:28
  read,
• 27:29
  you
• 27:29
  know,
• 27:29
  what
• 27:29
  they've
• 27:30
  said
• 27:30
  online,
• 27:30
  which
• 27:30
  was,
• 27:31
  you
• 27:31
  know,
• 27:31
  that
• 27:31
  was
• 27:32
  also
• 27:32
  during
• 27:32
  the
• 27:32
  COVID
• 27:33
  period.
• 27:33
  It
• 27:33
  was
• 27:33
  during
• 27:34
  transitional
• 27:35
  period
• 27:35
  between,
• 27:36
  you
• 27:37
  know,
• 27:37
  pulling
• 27:38
  the
• 27:38
  programs
• 27:38
  together
• 27:39
  and,
• 27:39
  and
• 27:41
  you
• 27:41
  know,
• 27:42
  I'm
• 27:43
  not
• 27:43
  going
• 27:43
  to
• 27:43
  get
• 27:43
  into
• 27:43
  the
• 27:44
  business.
• 27:44
  I
• 27:44
  did
• 27:45
  still
• 27:45
  hold
• 27:45
  a
• 27:45
  sore
• 27:45
  spot
• 27:46
  in
• 27:47
  my
• 27:47
  mind
• 27:47
  from
• 27:47
  when
• 27:47
  I
• 27:48
  got
• 27:48
  that
• 27:48
  phone
• 27:48
  call
• 27:48
  too,
• 27:49
  from
• 27:49
  the
• 27:49
  president.
• 27:50
  Sure.
• 27:50
  That
• 27:51
  that
• 27:51
  was
• 27:51
  happening.
• 27:52
  I
• 27:53
  could
• 27:53
  just
• 27:53
  tell
• 27:53
  you
• 27:53
  it
• 27:54
  was
• 27:54
  half
• 27:54
  an
• 27:54
  hour
• 27:55
  before
• 27:55
  they
• 27:55
  were
• 27:55
  going
• 27:55
  to
• 27:55
  make
• 27:55
  the
• 27:56
  announcement
• 27:56
  to
• 27:57
  the
• 27:57
  public.
• 27:58
  And
• 27:58
  they,
• 27:58
  and
• 27:58
  they
• 27:59
  let
• 27:59
  me
• 27:59
  know
• 27:59
  so
• 27:59
  that
• 28:00
  I
• 28:00
  could
• 28:00
  tell
• 28:00
  all
• 28:00
  the
• 28:00
  other
• 28:01
  half
• 28:01
  hour
• 28:01
  in
• 28:01
  my
• 28:02
  conference.
• 28:03
  But
• 28:04
  I'll
• 28:04
  tell
• 28:04
  you,
• 28:04
  this
• 28:04
  is
• 28:05
  what
• 28:05
  I
• 28:05
  would,
• 28:06
  whenever
• 28:06
  I
• 28:06
  would
• 28:08
  meet
• 28:08
  a
• 28:08
  new
• 28:08
  president
• 28:09
  in
• 28:09
  our
• 28:09
  conference.
• 28:10
  I
• 28:10
  would
• 28:10
  say
• 28:11
  there's
• 28:12
  three
• 28:12
  ways
• 28:12
  you
• 28:13
  could
• 28:13
  get
• 28:13
  in
• 28:13
  trouble
• 28:14
  as
• 28:15
  you're
• 28:15
  running
• 28:15
  an
• 28:15
  athletic
• 28:16
  program.
• 28:18
  Probably
• 28:18
  four.
• 28:18
  Now,
• 28:20
  the
• 28:20
  first
• 28:21
  one
• 28:21
  was
• 28:22
  that
• 28:23
  you
• 28:24
  aren't
• 28:25
  focused
• 28:25
  on
• 28:26
  the
• 28:26
  health
• 28:26
  and
• 28:26
  wellness
• 28:26
  of
• 28:27
  your
• 28:27
  student
• 28:27
  athletes.
• 28:28
  And
• 28:28
  so
• 28:28
  you
• 28:29
  need
• 28:29
  to
• 28:29
  have
• 28:29
  a
• 28:29
  good
• 28:30
  sports
• 28:30
  medicine
• 28:31
  program.
• 28:31
  You
• 28:31
  need
• 28:32
  to
• 28:32
  have
• 28:32
  coverage.
• 28:34
  The
• 28:34
  other
• 28:34
  one
• 28:34
  is
• 28:35
  you
• 28:35
  could,
• 28:35
  if
• 28:36
  you
• 28:36
  don't
• 28:36
  do
• 28:36
  a
• 28:36
  good
• 28:36
  job
• 28:37
  running
• 28:37
  events
• 28:37
  and
• 28:38
  making
• 28:39
  sure
• 28:39
  your
• 28:39
  facilities
• 28:40
  are
• 28:40
  safe
• 28:41
  and
• 28:42
  because
• 28:42
  you
• 28:43
  know
• 28:43
  that
• 28:43
  could
• 28:43
  lead
• 28:43
  to
• 28:43
  lawsuits
• 28:44
  and
• 28:45
  fights
• 28:45
  and
• 28:47
  just
• 28:47
  not
• 28:47
  a
• 28:48
  good
• 28:48
  experience
• 28:48
  for
• 28:49
  the
• 28:49
  student
• 28:50
  athletes
• 28:50
  or
• 28:51
  the
• 28:51
  families
• 28:51
  that
• 28:52
  come
• 28:52
  to
• 28:52
  games
• 28:53
  now
• 28:54
  and
• 28:54
  then.
• 28:54
  The
• 28:54
  third
• 28:55
  one
• 28:55
  always
• 28:55
  was
• 28:56
  compliance.
• 28:56
  You
• 28:56
  know,
• 28:57
  it's.
• 28:59
  You
• 28:59
  don't
• 28:59
  do
• 28:59
  the
• 29:00
  work
• 29:00
  that
• 29:00
  you
• 29:01
  have.
• 29:01
  And
• 29:01
  listen,
• 29:01
  it's
• 29:01
  not
• 29:02
  easy
• 29:02
  work.
• 29:02
  There's
• 29:03
  a
• 29:03
  lot
• 29:03
  of
• 29:03
  requirements,
• 29:04
  there's
• 29:04
  a
• 29:04
  lot
• 29:04
  of
• 29:05
  expectations,
• 29:06
  there's
• 29:07
  rules
• 29:07
  that
• 29:08
  change
• 29:08
  a
• 29:09
  lot.
• 29:09
  And
• 29:09
  so
• 29:09
  you
• 29:10
  need
• 29:10
  somebody
• 29:10
  that's
• 29:11
  on
• 29:11
  top
• 29:11
  of
• 29:11
  it.
• 29:12
  Because,
• 29:12
  again,
• 29:13
  who
• 29:13
  gets
• 29:14
  hurt
• 29:14
  in
• 29:14
  there?
• 29:15
  Your
• 29:15
  student
• 29:16
  athletes
• 29:16
  could
• 29:16
  get
• 29:17
  hurt,
• 29:17
  coaches
• 29:17
  could
• 29:17
  get
• 29:18
  hurt,
• 29:19
  and
• 29:19
  the
• 29:19
  institution's
• 29:20
  reputation
• 29:20
  could
• 29:21
  get
• 29:21
  hurt.
• 29:21
  And
• 29:21
  the
• 29:21
  fourth
• 29:22
  one
• 29:22
  now
• 29:22
  is
• 29:23
  that
• 29:23
  if
• 29:23
  you're
• 29:23
  not
• 29:24
  bringing
• 29:24
  in
• 29:24
  enough
• 29:25
  money,
• 29:25
  because,
• 29:26
  you
• 29:26
  know,
• 29:27
  the
• 29:27
  world
• 29:27
  of.
• 29:28
  Especially
• 29:28
  at
• 29:29
  the
• 29:29
  higher
• 29:29
  levels,
• 29:30
  the
• 29:30
  world
• 29:30
  of
• 29:30
  the
• 29:31
  athletic
• 29:31
  director
• 29:32
  really,
• 29:33
  really
• 29:33
  is
• 29:34
  more.
• 29:34
  Is
• 29:34
  almost
• 29:35
  all
• 29:35
  about
• 29:35
  raising
• 29:36
  money
• 29:36
  and
• 29:37
  not
• 29:37
  a
• 29:37
  lot
• 29:37
  about
• 29:38
  all
• 29:38
  the
• 29:38
  other
• 29:38
  things.
• 29:39
  So,
• 29:40
  Bob,
• 29:40
  just
• 29:40
  one
• 29:41
  last
• 29:42
  question
• 29:42
  before
• 29:42
  we
• 29:43
  let
• 29:43
  you
• 29:43
  go.
• 29:43
  And
• 29:43
  we
• 29:43
  thank
• 29:43
  you
• 29:44
  for
• 29:44
  all
• 29:44
  your
• 29:44
  insight.
• 29:45
  Finish
• 29:46
  up
• 29:46
  on
• 29:46
  kind
• 29:46
  of
• 29:46
  a
• 29:46
  happier
• 29:47
  note.
• 29:48
  I
• 29:48
  met
• 29:48
  you
• 29:48
  30
• 29:49
  years
• 29:49
  ago,
• 29:49
  1996,
• 29:50
  at
• 29:50
  Downlin
• 29:51
  College,
• 29:51
  and
• 29:52
  you
• 29:52
  mentioned
• 29:53
  how
• 29:53
  unique
• 29:54
  Dowling
• 29:54
  was,
• 29:54
  and
• 29:55
  unique
• 29:56
  it
• 29:56
  certainly
• 29:56
  was.
• 29:57
  And
• 29:57
  it
• 29:57
  was
• 29:57
  a
• 29:57
  lot
• 29:58
  of
• 29:58
  fun
• 29:58
  back
• 29:58
  then,
• 29:58
  I
• 29:59
  have
• 29:59
  to
• 29:59
  say.
• 29:59
  Even
• 29:59
  the
• 29:59
  one
• 29:59
  year
• 30:00
  that
• 30:00
  I
• 30:00
  spent
• 30:00
  there,
• 30:02
  such
• 30:02
  a
• 30:02
  different
• 30:03
  time.
• 30:05
  Can
• 30:05
  you
• 30:05
  say
• 30:06
  or
• 30:06
  recall
• 30:07
  one
• 30:08
  really
• 30:09
  outstanding,
• 30:09
  shining
• 30:10
  moment
• 30:10
  from
• 30:10
  your
• 30:11
  time
• 30:11
  at
• 30:11
  Dowling?
• 30:11
  I'm
• 30:12
  sure
• 30:12
  you
• 30:12
  have
• 30:12
  so
• 30:12
  many,
• 30:13
  but
• 30:13
  is
• 30:13
  there
• 30:13
  one
• 30:14
  that
• 30:14
  sticks
• 30:14
  out
• 30:15
  from
• 30:15
  that
• 30:15
  time?
• 30:15
  Because
• 30:16
  there
• 30:16
  were
• 30:16
  so
• 30:16
  many
• 30:16
  successful
• 30:17
  teams
• 30:17
  and.
• 30:18
  And
• 30:18
  programs
• 30:19
  and
• 30:19
  things,
• 30:21
  despite
• 30:21
  the
• 30:22
  lack
• 30:22
  of
• 30:22
  facilities
• 30:23
  and
• 30:24
  travel
• 30:24
  budgets
• 30:25
  and
• 30:25
  all
• 30:25
  those
• 30:25
  things.
• 30:26
  Is
• 30:26
  there
• 30:26
  anything
• 30:26
  that
• 30:26
  stands
• 30:27
  out
• 30:27
  to
• 30:27
  you?
• 30:29
  You
• 30:29
  mean,
• 30:29
  besides
• 30:30
  meeting
• 30:30
  you?
• 30:33
  You're
• 30:33
  making
• 30:33
  me
• 30:34
  feel
• 30:34
  good.
• 30:34
  After
• 30:34
  I
• 30:34
  made
• 30:35
  that
• 30:35
  Division
• 30:35
  2
• 30:35
  comment
• 30:36
  that
• 30:36
  I
• 30:36
  was
• 30:36
  a
• 30:36
  grim
• 30:36
  reaper.
• 30:37
  Thank
• 30:37
  you.
• 30:38
  Were
• 30:38
  you.
• 30:39
  Were
• 30:39
  you
• 30:39
  playing
• 30:39
  a
• 30:40
  sport?
• 30:40
  Just
• 30:40
  remind
• 30:41
  me
• 30:41
  what
• 30:41
  you
• 30:41
  were
• 30:41
  doing.
• 30:42
  Oh,
• 30:42
  in
• 30:42
  1996,
• 30:43
  when
• 30:43
  I.
• 30:44
  When
• 30:44
  I
• 30:44
  was.
• 30:44
  When
• 30:44
  I
• 30:44
  worked
• 30:45
  for.
• 30:45
  For
• 30:45
  Phil
• 30:46
  Stern
• 30:46
  as
• 30:46
  the
• 30:46
  women's
• 30:47
  basketball
• 30:47
  assistant
• 30:47
  coach.
• 30:48
  Get
• 30:48
  out
• 30:48
  of
• 30:49
  here.
• 30:49
  Yeah.
• 30:50
  Get
• 30:50
  out
• 30:50
  of
• 30:50
  here.
• 30:51
  Holy
• 30:51
  man.
• 30:51
  30
• 30:51
  years
• 30:52
  ago.
• 30:52
  That's.
• 30:52
  30
• 30:52
  years,
• 30:53
  Bob.
• 30:55
  Sorry,
• 30:56
  Mike.
• 30:57
  I'm
• 30:57
  sorry.
• 30:57
  I
• 30:57
  thought
• 30:57
  it
• 30:57
  was
• 30:58
  Chris
• 30:58
  saying
• 30:58
  that.
• 30:58
  Mike.
• 30:59
  No,
• 30:59
  no,
• 30:59
  no.
• 30:59
  Oh,
• 31:00
  we
• 31:00
  sound
• 31:00
  so
• 31:00
  similar.
• 31:01
  Yeah,
• 31:01
  that's
• 31:01
  me.
• 31:01
  That's
• 31:02
  me.
• 31:02
  You
• 31:02
  guys
• 31:03
  do.
• 31:03
  Yeah.
• 31:04
  So
• 31:05
  I.
• 31:06
  Well,
• 31:06
  yes,
• 31:07
  of
• 31:07
  course.
• 31:07
  And
• 31:07
  I'm
• 31:09
  like.
• 31:09
  I'm
• 31:09
  not
• 31:09
  going
• 31:09
  to
• 31:09
  say
• 31:10
  it
• 31:10
  was.
• 31:10
  Phil
• 31:10
  Stern
• 31:11
  was
• 31:11
  the.
• 31:11
  The
• 31:11
  highlight
• 31:12
  of
• 31:12
  my.
• 31:12
  My
• 31:13
  time
• 31:13
  at
• 31:13
  Dowling.
• 31:15
  I
• 31:15
  will
• 31:16
  tell
• 31:16
  you
• 31:16
  that.
• 31:16
  I'm
• 31:17
  not
• 31:17
  gonna.
• 31:17
  I'm
• 31:17
  not
• 31:17
  gonna
• 31:18
  tell
• 31:18
  you
• 31:18
  that
• 31:18
  it's
• 31:18
  any
• 31:19
  specific
• 31:19
  moment.
• 31:20
  Okay.
• 31:22
  You
• 31:22
  did
• 31:22
  have
• 31:22
  national
• 31:22
  championships.
• 31:23
  We
• 31:23
  were
• 31:24
  successful.
• 31:24
  You
• 31:24
  knew
• 31:25
  you
• 31:25
  won
• 31:25
  a
• 31:25
  couple
• 31:25
  of
• 31:25
  commissioner
• 31:26
  cups
• 31:26
  there,
• 31:26
  which
• 31:27
  was
• 31:27
  the
• 31:27
  overall
• 31:28
  success
• 31:28
  of
• 31:28
  athletic
• 31:29
  programs.
• 31:31
  I
• 31:31
  will
• 31:31
  tell
• 31:31
  you
• 31:31
  that.
• 31:31
  I
• 31:32
  think
• 31:32
  the
• 31:32
  most.
• 31:33
  The
• 31:33
  greatest
• 31:33
  part
• 31:34
  for
• 31:34
  me
• 31:35
  was
• 31:35
  how
• 31:35
  hard
• 31:36
  we
• 31:36
  worked
• 31:37
  and
• 31:37
  how
• 31:37
  everybody
• 31:38
  bought
• 31:38
  in
• 31:39
  and
• 31:40
  student
• 31:40
  athletes,
• 31:41
  coaches,
• 31:42
  administrators.
• 31:42
  I
• 31:43
  didn't
• 31:43
  have
• 31:43
  a
• 31:43
  lot
• 31:43
  of
• 31:43
  administrators.
• 31:44
  No.
• 31:44
  But,
• 31:45
  you
• 31:45
  know,
• 31:45
  we.
• 31:46
  You
• 31:46
  know,
• 31:47
  it
• 31:47
  was
• 31:47
  just
• 31:47
  a
• 31:47
  matter
• 31:48
  of
• 31:48
  that
• 31:49
  we
• 31:49
  tried
• 31:49
  to
• 31:49
  do
• 31:49
  things
• 31:50
  the
• 31:50
  right
• 31:50
  way.
• 31:50
  We
• 31:51
  didn't
• 31:51
  always
• 31:51
  get
• 31:51
  it
• 31:52
  done,
• 31:52
  but
• 31:53
  there
• 31:54
  were
• 31:54
  so
• 31:54
  many
• 31:54
  good
• 31:54
  people
• 31:54
  that
• 31:55
  came
• 31:55
  in
• 31:55
  through
• 31:55
  the
• 31:55
  door.
• 31:56
  People
• 31:56
  like
• 31:56
  you
• 31:56
  people
• 31:57
  like,
• 31:57
  you
• 31:58
  know,
• 31:58
  all
• 31:58
  those
• 31:58
  coaches
• 31:59
  and
• 32:00
  the
• 32:00
  student
• 32:01
  athletes,
• 32:01
  I
• 32:02
  gotta
• 32:02
  tell
• 32:02
  you,
• 32:02
  some
• 32:03
  of
• 32:03
  them
• 32:03
  I
• 32:04
  still
• 32:04
  hear
• 32:04
  from
• 32:04
  today.
• 32:06
  So
• 32:06
  hopefully
• 32:06
  we
• 32:07
  did
• 32:07
  the
• 32:07
  right
• 32:07
  thing.
• 32:08
  Well,
• 32:08
  it
• 32:09
  was
• 32:09
  a
• 32:09
  great
• 32:09
  place
• 32:09
  to
• 32:10
  work
• 32:10
  and
• 32:11
  coach
• 32:11
  for
• 32:11
  and
• 32:12
  coach
• 32:12
  against.
• 32:13
  And
• 32:14
  you've
• 32:14
  been
• 32:14
  such
• 32:15
  a
• 32:15
  great
• 32:15
  advocate
• 32:15
  for
• 32:16
  college
• 32:16
  athletics
• 32:16
  over
• 32:17
  the
• 32:17
  years
• 32:17
  and
• 32:17
  such
• 32:18
  an
• 32:18
  integral
• 32:18
  part
• 32:19
  of
• 32:20
  things
• 32:20
  locally.
• 32:21
  And,
• 32:21
  you
• 32:22
  know,
• 32:22
  your
• 32:22
  impact
• 32:22
  on
• 32:23
  Division
• 32:24
  two,
• 32:25
  on
• 32:25
  the
• 32:25
  committees
• 32:26
  and
• 32:26
  everything
• 32:26
  else.
• 32:27
  We
• 32:27
  could
• 32:27
  spend
• 32:27
  probably
• 32:28
  another
• 32:28
  hour
• 32:28
  going
• 32:28
  through
• 32:29
  it.
• 32:29
  Hopefully
• 32:29
  we
• 32:30
  can
• 32:30
  have
• 32:30
  you
• 32:30
  on
• 32:30
  again.
• 32:30
  But
• 32:31
  I
• 32:31
  can't
• 32:31
  thank
• 32:31
  you
• 32:31
  enough.
• 32:32
  You
• 32:32
  know,
• 32:32
  Chris
• 32:32
  and
• 32:32
  I
• 32:33
  really,
• 32:35
  it
• 32:35
  just
• 32:35
  is
• 32:36
  college
• 32:36
  athletics,
• 32:37
  as
• 32:37
  we
• 32:37
  said
• 32:37
  at
• 32:37
  the
• 32:37
  beginning,
• 32:39
  it's
• 32:39
  ever
• 32:39
  changing,
• 32:40
  ever
• 32:40
  adjusting.
• 32:41
  And
• 32:41
  to
• 32:41
  have
• 32:41
  someone
• 32:42
  like
• 32:42
  you
• 32:42
  who
• 32:42
  we
• 32:42
  can
• 32:43
  kind
• 32:43
  of
• 32:43
  reach
• 32:43
  out
• 32:43
  to
• 32:44
  and
• 32:44
  get
• 32:45
  a
• 32:45
  good
• 32:45
  reality
• 32:46
  what's
• 32:46
  going
• 32:46
  on,
• 32:46
  it's
• 32:47
  just
• 32:47
  invaluable
• 32:47
  to
• 32:47
  us.
• 32:48
  So
• 32:48
  thank
• 32:48
  you
• 32:48
  again.
• 32:49
  We
• 32:49
  wish
• 32:49
  you
• 32:49
  all
• 32:49
  the
• 32:50
  best.
• 32:50
  I
• 32:51
  hope
• 32:51
  you
• 32:51
  get
• 32:51
  a
• 32:51
  little
• 32:51
  time
• 32:52
  off
• 32:52
  once
• 32:52
  the
• 32:52
  semester
• 32:53
  ends.
• 32:54
  Are
• 32:54
  you
• 32:54
  teaching
• 32:55
  this
• 32:55
  summer
• 32:55
  or
• 32:55
  do
• 32:55
  you
• 32:56
  have
• 32:56
  some
• 32:56
  time?
• 32:56
  No
• 32:57
  summer
• 32:58
  good
• 32:58
  for
• 32:58
  you.
• 32:59
  Getting
• 32:59
  my
• 32:59
  grades
• 32:59
  in
• 33:00
  this
• 33:00
  week,
• 33:02
  but,
• 33:02
  but
• 33:02
  yeah,
• 33:03
  anytime
• 33:03
  I
• 33:03
  could.
• 33:04
  You
• 33:04
  guys
• 33:05
  want
• 33:06
  to
• 33:06
  talk
• 33:06
  again,
• 33:06
  I'm
• 33:07
  happy
• 33:07
  to
• 33:07
  do
• 33:07
  it.
• 33:07
  I,
• 33:08
  you
• 33:08
  know,
• 33:09
  I
• 33:09
  got
• 33:09
  a
• 33:09
  chance
• 33:09
  to
• 33:10
  listen
• 33:10
  to
• 33:10
  the
• 33:10
  program
• 33:10
  a
• 33:11
  couple
• 33:11
  of
• 33:11
  times
• 33:11
  after
• 33:11
  we
• 33:12
  spoke,
• 33:12
  Mike,
• 33:12
  and
• 33:13
  very
• 33:13
  impressive
• 33:14
  and
• 33:14
  you
• 33:14
  guys
• 33:15
  are
• 33:15
  real
• 33:15
  pros,
• 33:15
  so
• 33:16
  I'd
• 33:16
  be
• 33:16
  happy
• 33:16
  to
• 33:17
  help
• 33:17
  out
• 33:17
  if
• 33:17
  you
• 33:17
  need
• 33:18
  me.
• 33:18
  Well,
• 33:18
  again,
• 33:18
  we
• 33:19
  truly
• 33:19
  appreciate
• 33:19
  it,
• 33:20
  Dr.
• 33:21
  Bob
• 33:21
  Dranoff,
• 33:22
  and
• 33:22
  be
• 33:22
  well
• 33:22
  and
• 33:23
  enjoy
• 33:23
  the
• 33:23
  summer.
• 33:23
  And
• 33:23
  I'm
• 33:24
  sure
• 33:24
  I'll
• 33:24
  speak
• 33:24
  to
• 33:24
  you
• 33:24
  before,
• 33:24
  before
• 33:24
  then.
• 33:25
  Thanks.
• 33:25
  Okay.
• 33:25
  We
• 33:26
  will
• 33:26
  catch
• 33:26
  up
• 33:26
  soon,
• 33:27
  most
• 33:27
  definitely.
• 33:27
  Thank
• 33:28
  you
• 33:28
  so
• 33:28
  much.
• 33:30
  Just
• 33:30
  a
• 33:30
  great
• 33:30
  segment
• 33:31
  right
• 33:31
  there
• 33:31
  from
• 33:31
  and
• 33:32
  really,
• 33:32
  it's
• 33:32
  just
• 33:32
  a
• 33:32
  great
• 33:32
  guy.
• 33:33
  He's
• 33:33
  as
• 33:33
  nice
• 33:33
  as
• 33:33
  he
• 33:33
  sounds.
• 33:34
  Perfect.
• 33:34
  Yeah,
• 33:35
  you
• 33:35
  don't
• 33:35
  find
• 33:35
  anybody
• 33:36
  that
• 33:36
  says
• 33:36
  a
• 33:36
  negative
• 33:37
  word
• 33:37
  about
• 33:37
  Bob
• 33:37
  Dranoff
• 33:38
  for
• 33:38
  a
• 33:38
  good
• 33:38
  reason.
• 33:39
  So
• 33:39
  we're
• 33:39
  going
• 33:39
  to
• 33:39
  take
• 33:39
  a
• 33:39
  quick
• 33:39
  break.
• 33:40
  We're
• 33:40
  going
• 33:40
  to
• 33:40
  come
• 33:40
  back
• 33:40
  in
• 33:40
  the
• 33:40
  second
• 33:41
  hour.
• 33:41
  We're
• 33:41
  going
• 33:41
  to
• 33:41
  have
• 33:41
  A.J.
• 33:41
  Rovener
• 33:42
  join
• 33:42
  us,
• 33:42
  talk
• 33:43
  a
• 33:43
  little
• 33:43
  Knicks,
• 33:43
  Mets
• 33:44
  and
• 33:44
  probably
• 33:44
  some
• 33:44
  Yankees
• 33:44
  in
• 33:44
  there
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• 34:34
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• 34:37
  Welcome
• 34:38
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• 34:38
  to
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• 34:38
  second
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• 34:39
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• 34:42
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• 34:43
  Once
• 34:43
  again,
• 34:43
  I'm
• 34:44
  Mike
• 34:44
  Widone
• 34:44
  joined
• 34:45
  by
• 34:45
  Chris
• 34:45
  Caputo,
• 34:46
  my
• 34:46
  co
• 34:46
  host.
• 34:46
  Had
• 34:47
  a
• 34:47
  great
• 34:47
  segment
• 34:47
  with
• 34:48
  Dr.
• 34:48
  Bob
• 34:48
  Duranoff
• 34:49
  talking
• 34:49
  some
• 34:50
  college
• 34:50
  athletics
• 34:50
  and
• 34:51
  all
• 34:52
  things
• 34:52
  Division
• 34:52
  1,
• 34:53
  2,
• 34:53
  3
• 34:53
  junior
• 34:54
  colleges.
• 34:54
  Really
• 34:55
  just
• 34:56
  an
• 34:56
  encyclopedia
• 34:57
  of
• 34:57
  knowledge
• 34:57
  on
• 34:58
  sports
• 34:58
  and
• 34:59
  gave
• 35:00
  us
• 35:00
  a
• 35:00
  great
• 35:00
  education.
• 35:01
  But
• 35:01
  we're
• 35:01
  going
• 35:01
  to
• 35:01
  kind
• 35:01
  of
• 35:01
  come
• 35:02
  into
• 35:02
  the
• 35:02
  current
• 35:02
  day
• 35:03
  now.
• 35:04
  New
• 35:04
  York
• 35:04
  Knicks.
• 35:05
  We're
• 35:05
  going
• 35:05
  to
• 35:05
  talk
• 35:06
  specifically
• 35:06
  here
• 35:06
  with
• 35:07
  AJ
• 35:07
  Rovener,
• 35:08
  who
• 35:08
  I'm
• 35:09
  sure
• 35:09
  watched
• 35:10
  the
• 35:10
  game
• 35:10
  today.
• 35:11
  You
• 35:11
  got
• 35:11
  the
• 35:11
  broom
• 35:12
  out
• 35:12
  four
• 35:12
  game
• 35:12
  sweep
• 35:13
  of
• 35:14
  the
• 35:14
  Philadelphia
• 35:14
  76ers.
• 35:15
  And
• 35:16
  Cap,
• 35:16
  just
• 35:16
  before
• 35:16
  we
• 35:17
  welcome
• 35:17
  AJ
• 35:17
  I
• 35:17
  think
• 35:18
  two
• 35:18
  weeks
• 35:18
  ago
• 35:19
  we
• 35:19
  were
• 35:19
  talking
• 35:19
  about
• 35:19
  the
• 35:19
  struggles
• 35:20
  of
• 35:20
  the
• 35:20
  Knicks
• 35:20
  and
• 35:20
  I
• 35:21
  don't
• 35:21
  think
• 35:21
  they've
• 35:21
  lost
• 35:21
  the
• 35:21
  game
• 35:22
  since
• 35:22
  then.
• 35:22
  Seven
• 35:23
  in
• 35:23
  a
• 35:23
  row.
• 35:23
  Unbelievable.
• 35:24
  You
• 35:25
  know,
• 35:25
  a
• 35:25
  very
• 35:26
  talented
• 35:27
  team
• 35:27
  when
• 35:28
  they
• 35:28
  put
• 35:28
  things
• 35:28
  together.
• 35:28
  And
• 35:29
  we,
• 35:29
  you
• 35:29
  know,
• 35:29
  we,
• 35:29
  we
• 35:29
  were
• 35:30
  talking
• 35:30
  about
• 35:30
  that,
• 35:30
  but
• 35:31
  I
• 35:31
  think
• 35:31
  I
• 35:31
  had
• 35:31
  said
• 35:31
  to
• 35:31
  you
• 35:32
  like,
• 35:32
  I
• 35:32
  think
• 35:32
  if
• 35:33
  they
• 35:33
  can
• 35:33
  get
• 35:33
  a
• 35:33
  couple
• 35:34
  of
• 35:34
  guys
• 35:34
  going
• 35:35
  that
• 35:35
  this
• 35:35
  team
• 35:35
  could
• 35:35
  take
• 35:36
  off.
• 35:36
  And
• 35:36
  I
• 35:36
  saw
• 35:36
  them,
• 35:37
  you
• 35:37
  know,
• 35:37
  being
• 35:37
  able
• 35:38
  to
• 35:38
  possibly
• 35:38
  hit
• 35:39
  their
• 35:39
  stride.
• 35:39
  So
• 35:40
  it
• 35:40
  is
• 35:40
  interesting
• 35:41
  to
• 35:41
  see
• 35:41
  how
• 35:41
  two
• 35:42
  weeks
• 35:42
  can
• 35:42
  really
• 35:43
  change
• 35:44
  how
• 35:44
  the
• 35:44
  playoffs
• 35:45
  look.
• 35:45
  And
• 35:45
  now
• 35:46
  the
• 35:46
  Knicks
• 35:47
  have
• 35:47
  put
• 35:47
  their
• 35:47
  head
• 35:48
  down
• 35:48
  and
• 35:48
  just
• 35:48
  gone
• 35:48
  in
• 35:49
  and
• 35:49
  won
• 35:49
  home
• 35:49
  games,
• 35:49
  won
• 35:50
  road
• 35:50
  games
• 35:50
  and
• 35:51
  really,
• 35:51
  Mike,
• 35:52
  two
• 35:53
  impressive
• 35:54
  closeout
• 35:55
  games
• 35:55
  because
• 35:55
  you
• 35:56
  had
• 35:56
  the
• 35:56
  Hawks
• 35:56
  that
• 35:56
  they
• 35:56
  beat
• 35:56
  by
• 35:57
  51
• 35:57
  and
• 35:58
  then
• 35:58
  today
• 35:58
  they
• 35:58
  won
• 35:58
  by
• 35:59
  30.
• 35:59
  But
• 35:59
  let's
• 35:59
  be
• 35:59
  honest,
• 36:00
  that
• 36:00
  was
• 36:00
  another
• 36:00
  40
• 36:00
  something.
• 36:02
  So
• 36:03
  AJ
• 36:03
  joins
• 36:03
  us
• 36:04
  today.
• 36:04
  AJ
• 36:04
  Rovener,
• 36:05
  works
• 36:05
  at
• 36:06
  Madison
• 36:06
  Square
• 36:06
  Garden,
• 36:07
  watches
• 36:07
  a
• 36:07
  lot
• 36:07
  of
• 36:07
  the
• 36:07
  Knicks.
• 36:08
  How
• 36:08
  are
• 36:08
  you
• 36:08
  doing
• 36:08
  today,
• 36:08
  A.J.
• 36:10
  Great.
• 36:10
  Thank
• 36:10
  you
• 36:11
  guys
• 36:11
  for
• 36:11
  having
• 36:11
  me
• 36:12
  on.
• 36:12
  It's
• 36:12
  always
• 36:12
  fun
• 36:13
  and
• 36:14
  to
• 36:14
  be
• 36:14
  able
• 36:14
  to
• 36:15
  live
• 36:15
  out
• 36:15
  the
• 36:15
  experience
• 36:16
  at
• 36:17
  the
• 36:17
  Garden,
• 36:17
  it's
• 36:18
  really
• 36:18
  special.
• 36:18
  Even
• 36:19
  the
• 36:19
  watch
• 36:19
  parties,
• 36:20
  I
• 36:21
  mean
• 36:21
  it's
• 36:21
  all,
• 36:21
  you
• 36:22
  know,
• 36:22
  I
• 36:22
  talk
• 36:22
  to
• 36:23
  my
• 36:23
  friends
• 36:23
  about
• 36:23
  and
• 36:23
  the
• 36:24
  friends
• 36:24
  that
• 36:24
  I
• 36:24
  work
• 36:24
  with
• 36:25
  there,
• 36:25
  that
• 36:26
  it's
• 36:26
  such
• 36:26
  a
• 36:27
  different
• 36:27
  experience
• 36:27
  and
• 36:28
  vibe.
• 36:28
  You
• 36:28
  know,
• 36:28
  it's
• 36:29
  for
• 36:29
  those
• 36:29
  fans
• 36:29
  that
• 36:29
  maybe
• 36:30
  can't
• 36:30
  necessarily
• 36:31
  have
• 36:31
  that
• 36:31
  experience
• 36:32
  live.
• 36:32
  It's
• 36:33
  all
• 36:33
  the
• 36:33
  true
• 36:33
  fans
• 36:34
  that
• 36:34
  are
• 36:34
  outside
• 36:34
  having
• 36:35
  fun
• 36:35
  and
• 36:36
  to
• 36:36
  be
• 36:36
  able
• 36:36
  to
• 36:36
  bring
• 36:36
  that
• 36:37
  inside,
• 36:37
  it's
• 36:38
  really
• 36:38
  cool
• 36:38
  and
• 36:38
  unique
• 36:39
  and
• 36:39
  I
• 36:39
  was
• 36:39
  there
• 36:40
  today,
• 36:40
  you
• 36:40
  know,
• 36:40
  they'll
• 36:40
  announce
• 36:41
  the
• 36:41
  starting
• 36:41
  lineup.
• 36:42
  Still
• 36:42
  the
• 36:42
  Nick
• 36:42
  City
• 36:43
  Dancer
• 36:43
  there.
• 36:43
  It's
• 36:44
  all
• 36:44
  in
• 36:44
  game
• 36:44
  production.
• 36:45
  Just
• 36:45
  it's
• 36:46
  not
• 36:46
  the
• 36:46
  game
• 36:46
  on
• 36:46
  the
• 36:46
  floor,
• 36:47
  of
• 36:47
  course,
• 36:47
  it's
• 36:47
  where
• 36:47
  they're
• 36:48
  playing.
• 36:48
  But
• 36:48
  it's
• 36:48
  been
• 36:49
  a
• 36:49
  lot
• 36:49
  of
• 36:49
  fun
• 36:49
  and
• 36:49
  blessed
• 36:50
  to
• 36:50
  see
• 36:50
  it
• 36:50
  live.
• 36:51
  How
• 36:51
  many
• 36:51
  fans
• 36:52
  show
• 36:52
  up
• 36:52
  for
• 36:52
  like
• 36:53
  a
• 36:53
  watch
• 36:53
  party?
• 36:54
  So
• 36:54
  today
• 36:55
  we
• 36:55
  had
• 36:55
  about
• 36:55
  12,000
• 36:56
  and
• 36:57
  usually
• 36:57
  expand
• 36:59
  like
• 36:59
  12,000
• 36:59
  at
• 37:00
  a
• 37:00
  watch
• 37:00
  party.
• 37:01
  That's
• 37:01
  more
• 37:01
  than
• 37:01
  the
• 37:02
  Nets
• 37:02
  get
• 37:02
  for
• 37:02
  a
• 37:02
  game.
• 37:04
  So
• 37:05
  the
• 37:05
  first
• 37:05
  round
• 37:06
  is
• 37:06
  really
• 37:06
  the
• 37:06
  one
• 37:06
  hundreds
• 37:07
  only
• 37:07
  and
• 37:07
  the
• 37:08
  next
• 37:08
  round
• 37:08
  we
• 37:08
  expanded
• 37:09
  up
• 37:09
  to
• 37:09
  row
• 37:10
  17
• 37:10
  of
• 37:11
  24
• 37:12
  in
• 37:12
  the
• 37:13
  200s.
• 37:13
  And
• 37:13
  I
• 37:14
  remember
• 37:14
  last
• 37:14
  year
• 37:14
  in
• 37:15
  the
• 37:15
  conference
• 37:15
  finals
• 37:16
  they
• 37:16
  went
• 37:16
  all
• 37:17
  the
• 37:17
  way
• 37:17
  up
• 37:17
  to
• 37:17
  the
• 37:17
  bridge.
• 37:18
  So
• 37:18
  I'm
• 37:18
  expecting
• 37:18
  higher
• 37:19
  attendance,
• 37:19
  a
• 37:20
  little
• 37:20
  bit
• 37:20
  more
• 37:20
  of
• 37:20
  a
• 37:20
  late
• 37:21
  arriving
• 37:21
  crowd,
• 37:22
  but
• 37:23
  they
• 37:23
  pretty
• 37:23
  much
• 37:24
  hit
• 37:24
  capacity.
• 37:24
  It's
• 37:25
  for
• 37:25
  a
• 37:25
  good
• 37:25
  cause.
• 37:25
  $10
• 37:26
  per
• 37:26
  ticket
• 37:27
  all
• 37:27
  goes
• 37:27
  to
• 37:27
  the
• 37:27
  Garnet
• 37:28
  Dream.
• 37:28
  So
• 37:28
  very
• 37:29
  cool
• 37:29
  stuff.
• 37:29
  Yeah,
• 37:30
  that's
• 37:30
  cool.
• 37:31
  And
• 37:31
  as
• 37:31
  far
• 37:31
  as
• 37:31
  I
• 37:32
  know
• 37:32
  the
• 37:33
  the
• 37:33
  Knicks
• 37:33
  would
• 37:33
  not
• 37:34
  be
• 37:34
  starting
• 37:34
  the
• 37:34
  next
• 37:35
  round
• 37:35
  against
• 37:35
  either
• 37:36
  the
• 37:36
  Cavs
• 37:37
  or
• 37:37
  the
• 37:37
  Pistons
• 37:38
  until
• 37:38
  at
• 37:39
  least
• 37:39
  next
• 37:39
  Sunday.
• 37:39
  Is
• 37:40
  that
• 37:40
  right?
• 37:40
  I
• 37:40
  know
• 37:40
  you
• 37:41
  have
• 37:41
  to
• 37:41
  follow
• 37:41
  the
• 37:41
  schedule
• 37:42
  for
• 37:43
  sure.
• 37:43
  So
• 37:44
  it's
• 37:44
  all
• 37:44
  depend
• 37:45
  on
• 37:45
  that
• 37:45
  Cleveland
• 37:45
  Detroit
• 37:46
  series.
• 37:46
  It
• 37:46
  could
• 37:47
  start
• 37:47
  as
• 37:47
  early
• 37:47
  as
• 37:48
  next
• 37:48
  Sunday
• 37:49
  and
• 37:50
  depending
• 37:50
  on
• 37:51
  how
• 37:51
  long
• 37:51
  that
• 37:51
  series
• 37:52
  goes,
• 37:52
  it
• 37:52
  could
• 37:52
  start
• 37:53
  next
• 37:53
  Tuesday.
• 37:54
  But
• 37:54
  that's
• 37:54
  great
• 37:55
  for
• 37:55
  the
• 37:55
  Knicks.
• 37:55
  I
• 37:55
  know
• 37:56
  some
• 37:56
  fans
• 37:56
  can
• 37:56
  be
• 37:56
  skeptical
• 37:57
  like
• 37:58
  hey,
• 37:58
  too
• 37:58
  much
• 37:58
  rest
• 37:59
  is
• 37:59
  not
• 37:59
  good.
• 37:59
  But
• 38:00
  listen
• 38:00
  their
• 38:01
  second
• 38:01
  best
• 38:01
  offensive
• 38:02
  player
• 38:02
  in
• 38:02
  these
• 38:02
  players,
• 38:03
  OG
• 38:03
  Anunoby,
• 38:04
  who's
• 38:04
  been
• 38:04
  just
• 38:04
  fantastic
• 38:05
  and
• 38:06
  so
• 38:06
  important
• 38:07
  when
• 38:07
  the
• 38:07
  Knicks
• 38:08
  went
• 38:08
  down
• 38:08
  two
• 38:09
  one,
• 38:09
  he's
• 38:09
  such
• 38:09
  a
• 38:09
  silent
• 38:10
  force.
• 38:10
  He
• 38:11
  should
• 38:11
  have
• 38:11
  been
• 38:11
  on
• 38:11
  the
• 38:11
  NBA
• 38:12
  all
• 38:12
  first
• 38:12
  team
• 38:13
  defensively.
• 38:15
  I
• 38:15
  mean
• 38:15
  they're
• 38:16
  going
• 38:16
  to
• 38:16
  need
• 38:16
  him
• 38:16
  down
• 38:17
  the
• 38:17
  stretch
• 38:17
  and
• 38:17
  to
• 38:17
  get
• 38:17
  him
• 38:18
  extra
• 38:18
  rest.
• 38:18
  And
• 38:19
  the
• 38:19
  Knicks
• 38:19
  still
• 38:19
  be
• 38:20
  able
• 38:20
  to
• 38:20
  take
• 38:20
  care
• 38:20
  of
• 38:20
  these
• 38:20
  two
• 38:21
  games
• 38:21
  in
• 38:21
  Philadelphia
• 38:22
  without
• 38:22
  him.
• 38:23
  You
• 38:23
  know,
• 38:23
  I
• 38:23
  think
• 38:24
  all
• 38:24
  Knicks
• 38:24
  fans
• 38:24
  should
• 38:25
  be
• 38:25
  hoping
• 38:25
  that
• 38:25
  series
• 38:26
  goes
• 38:26
  to
• 38:26
  seven
• 38:26
  and
• 38:27
  Cleveland
• 38:27
  pulls
• 38:28
  it
• 38:28
  off
• 38:28
  because
• 38:28
  then
• 38:28
  they're
• 38:28
  going
• 38:29
  to
• 38:29
  have
• 38:29
  home
• 38:29
  court
• 38:29
  throughout
• 38:30
  until
• 38:30
  they
• 38:30
  would
• 38:31
  have
• 38:31
  to
• 38:31
  play,
• 38:32
  you
• 38:32
  know,
• 38:32
  what's
• 38:32
  most
• 38:32
  likely
• 38:33
  going
• 38:33
  to
• 38:33
  be
• 38:33
  the
• 38:33
  Thunder
• 38:33
  or
• 38:34
  Spurs
• 38:34
  in
• 38:34
  the
• 38:34
  NBA
• 38:35
  Finals.
• 38:36
  So
• 38:36
  A.J.
• 38:37
  You
• 38:37
  mentioned,
• 38:38
  you
• 38:38
  know,
• 38:38
  when
• 38:38
  the
• 38:38
  Knicks
• 38:38
  went
• 38:38
  down
• 38:39
  2:1
• 38:39
  to
• 38:40
  Atlanta
• 38:40
  and
• 38:41
  at
• 38:41
  that
• 38:41
  time,
• 38:41
  you
• 38:41
  know,
• 38:42
  people
• 38:42
  were
• 38:44
  like
• 38:44
  any
• 38:44
  New
• 38:44
  York
• 38:45
  fans
• 38:45
  talking
• 38:45
  about
• 38:46
  Mike
• 38:46
  Brown
• 38:46
  and
• 38:47
  you
• 38:47
  know,
• 38:47
  was
• 38:47
  he
• 38:48
  the
• 38:48
  right
• 38:48
  choice?
• 38:49
  And
• 38:49
  maybe
• 38:49
  if
• 38:50
  the
• 38:50
  Knicks
• 38:50
  lose
• 38:50
  he's
• 38:51
  going
• 38:51
  to
• 38:51
  go
• 38:51
  and
• 38:51
  Billy
• 38:52
  Donovan
• 38:52
  comes
• 38:52
  in
• 38:52
  and
• 38:52
  all
• 38:53
  that
• 38:53
  kind
• 38:53
  of
• 38:53
  stuff.
• 38:53
  Anywho,
• 38:54
  you
• 38:54
  know,
• 38:54
  here
• 38:55
  we
• 38:55
  are,
• 38:55
  you
• 38:55
  know,
• 38:55
  a
• 38:56
  couple
• 38:56
  weeks
• 38:56
  later
• 38:56
  and
• 38:57
  you
• 38:57
  know,
• 38:57
  certainly
• 38:58
  he,
• 38:59
  you
• 38:59
  can't
• 38:59
  take
• 39:00
  away
• 39:00
  what
• 39:00
  he's
• 39:00
  done.
• 39:00
  But
• 39:01
  I
• 39:01
  want
• 39:01
  to
• 39:01
  ask
• 39:01
  you
• 39:01
  this
• 39:02
  question.
• 39:02
  If
• 39:03
  the
• 39:03
  Knicks
• 39:03
  don't
• 39:04
  by
• 39:05
  some
• 39:05
  chance,
• 39:05
  and
• 39:05
  I
• 39:06
  think
• 39:06
  it
• 39:06
  would
• 39:06
  be
• 39:06
  a
• 39:06
  major,
• 39:07
  major
• 39:07
  upset
• 39:07
  if
• 39:08
  they
• 39:08
  didn't
• 39:08
  at
• 39:08
  least
• 39:08
  make
• 39:08
  it
• 39:09
  to
• 39:09
  the
• 39:09
  Finals.
• 39:11
  Any
• 39:11
  issue
• 39:11
  with
• 39:12
  Mike
• 39:12
  Brown
• 39:12
  or
• 39:12
  is
• 39:12
  he,
• 39:13
  you
• 39:13
  know,
• 39:13
  by
• 39:14
  this
• 39:14
  impressive
• 39:14
  run
• 39:15
  here
• 39:15
  has
• 39:15
  he
• 39:15
  solidified
• 39:16
  himself
• 39:17
  as
• 39:17
  the
• 39:17
  future,
• 39:18
  you
• 39:18
  know,
• 39:18
  at
• 39:18
  least
• 39:19
  for
• 39:19
  a
• 39:19
  couple
• 39:19
  years
• 39:19
  here
• 39:19
  as
• 39:20
  the
• 39:20
  Knicks
• 39:20
  head.
• 39:21
  Coach,
• 39:22
  to
• 39:22
  kind
• 39:23
  of
• 39:23
  backtrack,
• 39:24
  you
• 39:24
  know,
• 39:24
  before
• 39:24
  I
• 39:24
  really
• 39:25
  get
• 39:25
  into
• 39:25
  that,
• 39:26
  you
• 39:26
  know,
• 39:26
  the
• 39:26
  Knicks
• 39:26
  only
• 39:27
  lost
• 39:27
  those
• 39:27
  two
• 39:28
  games
• 39:28
  by
• 39:29
  a
• 39:29
  point,
• 39:30
  you
• 39:30
  know,
• 39:30
  and
• 39:30
  all
• 39:30
  their
• 39:30
  wins
• 39:31
  have
• 39:31
  been
• 39:31
  in
• 39:31
  such
• 39:31
  decisive
• 39:32
  fashion.
• 39:33
  And
• 39:33
  most
• 39:34
  recently,
• 39:34
  I
• 39:34
  mean,
• 39:34
  in
• 39:35
  game
• 39:35
  one
• 39:35
  against
• 39:35
  Atlanta,
• 39:36
  they
• 39:36
  blew
• 39:37
  them
• 39:37
  out.
• 39:38
  And
• 39:38
  then
• 39:38
  in
• 39:38
  games
• 39:39
  four,
• 39:39
  five,
• 39:39
  and
• 39:40
  six,
• 39:40
  they
• 39:40
  weren't
• 39:41
  close.
• 39:41
  And
• 39:42
  then
• 39:42
  in
• 39:42
  game
• 39:42
  two,
• 39:43
  that
• 39:43
  was
• 39:44
  really
• 39:44
  the
• 39:44
  only
• 39:44
  close
• 39:45
  game
• 39:45
  in
• 39:45
  this
• 39:45
  series.
• 39:45
  They.
• 39:46
  I
• 39:46
  mean,
• 39:46
  their
• 39:47
  average
• 39:47
  point
• 39:48
  differential
• 39:48
  victory
• 39:49
  this
• 39:49
  series
• 39:49
  was
• 39:50
  27.
• 39:51
  So,
• 39:52
  I
• 39:52
  mean,
• 39:52
  just
• 39:53
  not
• 39:53
  competitive
• 39:54
  basketball.
• 39:55
  And
• 39:55
  to
• 39:55
  answer
• 39:56
  your
• 39:56
  question
• 39:56
  about
• 39:56
  Brent,
• 39:57
  I
• 39:57
  certainly
• 39:57
  think
• 39:58
  he
• 39:58
  wouldn't
• 39:58
  have
• 39:58
  been
• 39:58
  the
• 39:59
  coach
• 39:59
  of
• 39:59
  the
• 39:59
  Knicks
• 39:59
  if
• 40:00
  they
• 40:00
  lost
• 40:00
  that
• 40:00
  first
• 40:01
  series.
• 40:01
  But
• 40:02
  winning
• 40:02
  seven
• 40:03
  in
• 40:03
  a
• 40:03
  row,
• 40:03
  I
• 40:03
  mean
• 40:04
  that.
• 40:04
  And
• 40:05
  I
• 40:05
  mean,
• 40:05
  they're
• 40:05
  just.
• 40:06
  I
• 40:06
  remember
• 40:06
  talking
• 40:07
  to
• 40:08
  just
• 40:08
  my,
• 40:08
  you
• 40:09
  know,
• 40:09
  fellow
• 40:09
  co.
• 40:10
  I
• 40:10
  mean,
• 40:10
  the
• 40:10
  games
• 40:10
  are
• 40:11
  just
• 40:11
  not
• 40:11
  competitive.
• 40:12
  Like,
• 40:12
  they're
• 40:13
  just
• 40:13
  demolishing
• 40:14
  teams.
• 40:15
  And
• 40:16
  so,
• 40:16
  I
• 40:16
  mean,
• 40:17
  I
• 40:17
  would
• 40:17
  say
• 40:17
  his
• 40:17
  job
• 40:18
  is
• 40:18
  safe,
• 40:18
  but
• 40:19
  I
• 40:19
  was
• 40:19
  talking
• 40:20
  to
• 40:20
  my
• 40:20
  buddy
• 40:20
  Joe
• 40:21
  on
• 40:21
  the
• 40:21
  train
• 40:21
  ride
• 40:22
  home.
• 40:23
  If
• 40:24
  they
• 40:24
  don't
• 40:24
  win
• 40:25
  this
• 40:25
  series,
• 40:25
  he
• 40:26
  didn't
• 40:26
  do
• 40:26
  anything
• 40:27
  more
• 40:27
  than
• 40:27
  Thibodeau
• 40:28
  did.
• 40:28
  So
• 40:29
  it's
• 40:29
  a
• 40:29
  very,
• 40:29
  very
• 40:30
  interesting
• 40:31
  conversation
• 40:31
  you
• 40:32
  have
• 40:32
  to
• 40:32
  have
• 40:32
  because
• 40:32
  it's
• 40:33
  just
• 40:33
  a
• 40:33
  ride
• 40:34
  of
• 40:34
  momentum
• 40:35
  they're
• 40:35
  going
• 40:36
  on
• 40:36
  right
• 40:36
  now.
• 40:36
  I
• 40:36
  mean,
• 40:37
  it
• 40:37
  would
• 40:37
  definitely
• 40:37
  be
• 40:38
  heartbreaking
• 40:39
  if
• 40:39
  they
• 40:39
  couldn't
• 40:40
  get
• 40:40
  to
• 40:40
  the
• 40:40
  finals.
• 40:42
  AJ
• 40:42
  the
• 40:43
  three
• 40:43
  Pointers
• 40:43
  have
• 40:44
  been
• 40:44
  a
• 40:44
  major
• 40:45
  success
• 40:45
  for
• 40:46
  the
• 40:46
  Knicks.
• 40:46
  I
• 40:46
  mean,
• 40:48
  today,
• 40:48
  you
• 40:48
  know,
• 40:48
  putting
• 40:49
  up
• 40:49
  11
• 40:49
  in
• 40:49
  the
• 40:49
  first
• 40:50
  quarter
• 40:50
  and
• 40:51
  tying
• 40:51
  a
• 40:52
  franchise
• 40:52
  postseason
• 40:54
  record
• 40:54
  for
• 40:54
  the
• 40:55
  game.
• 40:56
  Why
• 40:56
  is
• 40:57
  it
• 40:57
  that
• 40:57
  now,
• 40:57
  all
• 40:57
  of
• 40:58
  a
• 40:58
  sudden,
• 40:58
  it's
• 40:58
  not
• 40:59
  just
• 40:59
  part
• 40:59
  of
• 40:59
  their
• 40:59
  offense.
• 41:00
  It
• 41:00
  has
• 41:00
  basically
• 41:01
  become
• 41:01
  the
• 41:01
  main
• 41:02
  focus
• 41:02
  point
• 41:02
  of
• 41:03
  their
• 41:03
  offense?
• 41:05
  Well,
• 41:05
  Mike
• 41:05
  Brown
• 41:06
  was
• 41:06
  very
• 41:06
  adamant
• 41:07
  about
• 41:07
  shooting
• 41:08
  the
• 41:08
  three,
• 41:08
  and
• 41:09
  I
• 41:09
  think
• 41:09
  that
• 41:09
  the
• 41:09
  Knicks
• 41:10
  have
• 41:10
  really
• 41:10
  just
• 41:11
  taken
• 41:11
  that
• 41:12
  in
• 41:12
  stride.
• 41:13
  I
• 41:13
  mean,
• 41:13
  there's
• 41:13
  just
• 41:14
  so
• 41:15
  many
• 41:15
  contributors.
• 41:16
  When
• 41:16
  you
• 41:16
  have
• 41:17
  all
• 41:17
  five
• 41:17
  guys
• 41:18
  in
• 41:18
  the
• 41:18
  starting
• 41:18
  lineup
• 41:19
  that
• 41:19
  could
• 41:19
  shoot
• 41:19
  threes.
• 41:20
  Josh
• 41:20
  Hart,
• 41:21
  shooting
• 41:21
  the
• 41:21
  best
• 41:21
  he's
• 41:22
  ever
• 41:22
  had
• 41:22
  from.
• 41:23
  Has
• 41:23
  from
• 41:24
  three.
• 41:24
  And
• 41:24
  then
• 41:24
  you
• 41:25
  go
• 41:25
  to
• 41:25
  the
• 41:25
  bench,
• 41:25
  they're
• 41:26
  just
• 41:26
  so
• 41:26
  much
• 41:26
  deeper
• 41:27
  than
• 41:27
  they
• 41:27
  were
• 41:28
  last
• 41:28
  year.
• 41:28
  Jose
• 41:29
  Alvarado
• 41:30
  is
• 41:30
  that
• 41:30
  spark
• 41:30
  you
• 41:31
  got
• 41:31
  for
• 41:31
  nothing.
• 41:31
  And
• 41:32
  he
• 41:32
  could
• 41:32
  shoot
• 41:32
  the
• 41:32
  three.
• 41:33
  Landry
• 41:33
  Shamon,
• 41:34
  a
• 41:34
  guy
• 41:34
  on
• 41:34
  a
• 41:34
  veteran
• 41:35
  minimum,
• 41:35
  could
• 41:35
  shoot
• 41:36
  the
• 41:36
  three.
• 41:37
  Deuce
• 41:37
  McBride,
• 41:37
  who's
• 41:38
  not
• 41:38
  son,
• 41:38
  could
• 41:38
  shoot
• 41:39
  the
• 41:39
  three.
• 41:40
  Jordan
• 41:40
  Clarkson,
• 41:41
  another
• 41:41
  guy
• 41:42
  we
• 41:42
  got
• 41:42
  on
• 41:42
  the
• 41:42
  veteran
• 41:43
  minimum,
• 41:43
  you
• 41:44
  know,
• 41:44
  just
• 41:44
  sitting
• 41:44
  out
• 41:44
  there
• 41:45
  in
• 41:45
  the
• 41:45
  summer,
• 41:45
  he
• 41:46
  could
• 41:46
  shoot.
• 41:46
  So,
• 41:46
  I
• 41:47
  mean,
• 41:47
  there's
• 41:47
  just.
• 41:47
  So
• 41:48
  there's
• 41:48
  a
• 41:49
  plethora
• 41:49
  of
• 41:50
  options
• 41:50
  of
• 41:50
  guys
• 41:51
  that
• 41:51
  could
• 41:51
  just
• 41:52
  flat
• 41:53
  out
• 41:53
  shoot
• 41:53
  the
• 41:53
  basketball.
• 41:54
  And
• 41:54
  if
• 41:54
  it's
• 41:54
  not
• 41:55
  one
• 41:55
  guy,
• 41:55
  it's
• 41:55
  another
• 41:56
  guy.
• 41:56
  This
• 41:56
  is
• 41:57
  just
• 41:57
  the
• 41:58
  depth
• 41:59
  that
• 41:59
  they've
• 42:00
  built.
• 42:00
  And
• 42:00
  I
• 42:00
  think
• 42:00
  that
• 42:01
  with
• 42:01
  the
• 42:01
  Thibodeau
• 42:02
  Knicks,
• 42:02
  they
• 42:02
  just
• 42:02
  ran
• 42:03
  out
• 42:03
  of
• 42:03
  gas
• 42:04
  last
• 42:04
  year.
• 42:04
  They
• 42:05
  just
• 42:05
  weren't
• 42:06
  deep.
• 42:06
  I
• 42:06
  mean,
• 42:06
  all
• 42:07
  five
• 42:07
  stars
• 42:07
  are
• 42:08
  playing
• 42:08
  over
• 42:08
  40
• 42:08
  minutes.
• 42:09
  I
• 42:09
  mean,
• 42:09
  Carl
• 42:10
  Anthony
• 42:10
  Towns,
• 42:11
  like,
• 42:11
  hasn't
• 42:11
  played.
• 42:12
  I
• 42:12
  mean,
• 42:12
  he's
• 42:12
  played
• 42:12
  like,
• 42:13
  you
• 42:13
  know,
• 42:13
  foul
• 42:13
  trouble,
• 42:14
  but,
• 42:14
  you
• 42:15
  know,
• 42:15
  he's
• 42:16
  Devin
• 42:17
  wanting
• 42:17
  to
• 42:17
  just
• 42:18
  shoot
• 42:18
  the
• 42:18
  three.
• 42:18
  So,
• 42:19
  I
• 42:19
  mean,
• 42:20
  there
• 42:20
  is
• 42:20
  just.
• 42:21
  There's
• 42:22
  so
• 42:22
  many
• 42:22
  options
• 42:23
  and
• 42:23
  so
• 42:23
  many
• 42:24
  different
• 42:24
  guys
• 42:24
  that
• 42:24
  could
• 42:24
  take
• 42:25
  over
• 42:25
  again.
• 42:25
  I
• 42:25
  mean,
• 42:26
  Deuce
• 42:26
  McBride,
• 42:26
  25
• 42:27
  points
• 42:27
  today,
• 42:28
  just.
• 42:29
  It's
• 42:29
  a
• 42:29
  really
• 42:30
  fun
• 42:30
  team
• 42:30
  to
• 42:30
  watch,
• 42:31
  and
• 42:31
  you
• 42:31
  can
• 42:31
  genuinely
• 42:32
  just
• 42:32
  see
• 42:32
  them
• 42:32
  molding
• 42:33
  together
• 42:33
  at
• 42:34
  the
• 42:34
  right
• 42:34
  time.
• 42:34
  I
• 42:35
  think
• 42:35
  that's
• 42:35
  right,
• 42:35
  Mike.
• 42:35
  I
• 42:35
  think,
• 42:36
  you
• 42:36
  know,
• 42:36
  they
• 42:36
  are
• 42:36
  a
• 42:37
  fun
• 42:37
  team
• 42:37
  to
• 42:37
  watch.
• 42:37
  And
• 42:37
  you
• 42:38
  got
• 42:38
  guys
• 42:38
  like,
• 42:38
  you
• 42:39
  know,
• 42:39
  McBride
• 42:39
  and
• 42:39
  then
• 42:40
  you
• 42:40
  have,
• 42:40
  you
• 42:40
  know,
• 42:40
  Tyler
• 42:41
  Colic
• 42:41
  plays
• 42:41
  his
• 42:41
  role
• 42:42
  now.
• 42:42
  And
• 42:43
  the
• 42:43
  crazy
• 42:43
  part
• 42:44
  is
• 42:44
  they're
• 42:44
  up
• 42:44
  30
• 42:44
  something.
• 42:45
  Yeah,
• 42:45
  they
• 42:46
  stay
• 42:46
  up
• 42:46
  30,
• 42:47
  you
• 42:47
  know,
• 42:47
  they
• 42:47
  go
• 42:47
  up
• 42:47
  40.
• 42:48
  You
• 42:48
  got
• 42:48
  Landry
• 42:48
  Shamut
• 42:49
  playing
• 42:49
  12
• 42:49
  minutes,
• 42:50
  scoring
• 42:50
  12
• 42:50
  points.
• 42:51
  Like,
• 42:51
  that's
• 42:51
  the
• 42:51
  role
• 42:52
  for
• 42:52
  these
• 42:52
  guys.
• 42:53
  You
• 42:53
  know,
• 42:53
  he's
• 42:53
  shooting
• 42:54
  like
• 42:54
  67%
• 42:55
  from
• 42:55
  3.
• 42:56
  And
• 42:57
  you
• 42:57
  need
• 42:57
  to
• 42:57
  put
• 42:58
  guys
• 42:58
  in
• 42:58
  situations
• 42:59
  where
• 42:59
  they're
• 42:59
  role
• 43:00
  players
• 43:01
  and
• 43:01
  everybody
• 43:02
  has
• 43:02
  their
• 43:02
  niche
• 43:03
  and
• 43:03
  they
• 43:03
  know
• 43:03
  what
• 43:03
  they
• 43:03
  do.
• 43:04
  Not
• 43:04
  like,
• 43:04
  oh,
• 43:04
  somebody
• 43:05
  got
• 43:05
  hurt.
• 43:05
  And
• 43:05
  now
• 43:06
  you
• 43:06
  have
• 43:06
  a
• 43:06
  guy
• 43:06
  going
• 43:06
  in,
• 43:07
  playing
• 43:07
  25
• 43:07
  minutes,
• 43:08
  you
• 43:08
  don't
• 43:09
  need
• 43:09
  that.
• 43:09
  And
• 43:09
  he
• 43:09
  hasn't
• 43:09
  played.
• 43:10
  And
• 43:10
  I
• 43:10
  think
• 43:10
  we
• 43:10
  were
• 43:11
  talking
• 43:11
  about
• 43:11
  that
• 43:12
  the
• 43:12
  Knicks
• 43:12
  were
• 43:12
  throwing
• 43:13
  lineups
• 43:13
  out
• 43:14
  there
• 43:14
  that
• 43:14
  they
• 43:14
  had
• 43:15
  never
• 43:15
  put
• 43:15
  together
• 43:16
  during
• 43:16
  the
• 43:16
  regular
• 43:17
  season.
• 43:17
  And
• 43:18
  I
• 43:18
  think
• 43:18
  that
• 43:18
  was
• 43:18
  something
• 43:19
  that
• 43:19
  Mike
• 43:19
  Brown
• 43:20
  talked
• 43:20
  with
• 43:20
  probably
• 43:21
  Brunson
• 43:21
  and
• 43:22
  Gent
• 43:22
  and
• 43:22
  all
• 43:22
  these,
• 43:23
  Brendan
• 43:23
  o',
• 43:24
  Connor,
• 43:24
  all
• 43:24
  these
• 43:24
  guys
• 43:24
  who
• 43:25
  are
• 43:25
  their
• 43:25
  assistant
• 43:25
  coaches
• 43:26
  and
• 43:26
  said,
• 43:26
  listen,
• 43:27
  we
• 43:27
  have
• 43:28
  to
• 43:28
  make
• 43:28
  sure
• 43:28
  that
• 43:28
  we
• 43:28
  have
• 43:29
  the
• 43:29
  right
• 43:29
  guys
• 43:29
  on
• 43:29
  the
• 43:29
  court.
• 43:31
  So,
• 43:31
  AJ
• 43:32
  Let
• 43:32
  me
• 43:32
  ask
• 43:32
  you
• 43:32
  a
• 43:32
  question.
• 43:32
  Since
• 43:33
  you're
• 43:33
  in
• 43:33
  the
• 43:33
  Garden
• 43:34
  so
• 43:34
  much
• 43:34
  and,
• 43:35
  you
• 43:36
  know,
• 43:36
  in
• 43:36
  the
• 43:36
  thick
• 43:36
  of
• 43:36
  things,
• 43:37
  if
• 43:38
  the
• 43:38
  Knicks
• 43:38
  were
• 43:38
  to
• 43:38
  pull
• 43:39
  this
• 43:39
  off
• 43:39
  and
• 43:39
  win
• 43:39
  the
• 43:40
  championship,
• 43:42
  would
• 43:43
  New
• 43:43
  York
• 43:43
  City,
• 43:45
  I
• 43:45
  don't
• 43:45
  even
• 43:45
  say
• 43:46
  it
• 43:46
  would
• 43:46
  be
• 43:46
  alive.
• 43:46
  It
• 43:46
  would
• 43:47
  be
• 43:47
  beyond
• 43:47
  alive.
• 43:49
  Can
• 43:50
  you
• 43:50
  take
• 43:50
  us
• 43:50
  through
• 43:50
  what
• 43:50
  you
• 43:51
  think
• 43:51
  it
• 43:51
  would
• 43:51
  be
• 43:51
  like
• 43:51
  in
• 43:51
  New
• 43:52
  York
• 43:52
  City
• 43:52
  for
• 43:52
  a
• 43:52
  couple
• 43:52
  days
• 43:53
  if
• 43:53
  the
• 43:53
  Knicks
• 43:53
  bull
• 43:53
  is
• 43:53
  off?
• 43:55
  Yeah.
• 43:56
  I
• 43:56
  mean,
• 43:56
  so
• 43:57
  it's
• 43:57
  funny.
• 43:58
  So
• 43:59
  where
• 43:59
  I
• 43:59
  work
• 44:00
  at
• 44:00
  the
• 44:00
  guard,
• 44:00
  you
• 44:00
  know,
• 44:01
  sometimes
• 44:01
  the
• 44:02
  NYPD
• 44:03
  is
• 44:03
  very
• 44:03
  close
• 44:04
  to
• 44:04
  me.
• 44:04
  And
• 44:04
  when
• 44:05
  the
• 44:05
  game
• 44:05
  starts,
• 44:05
  I'm
• 44:06
  going
• 44:06
  to
• 44:06
  be
• 44:06
  honest,
• 44:06
  you
• 44:06
  know,
• 44:07
  it's
• 44:07
  so
• 44:07
  hard
• 44:07
  to
• 44:08
  just
• 44:08
  not
• 44:08
  become
• 44:08
  a
• 44:09
  fan.
• 44:09
  Right.
• 44:09
  Like,
• 44:09
  you're
• 44:10
  there.
• 44:10
  I've
• 44:10
  been
• 44:10
  Knicks
• 44:11
  fan
• 44:11
  my
• 44:11
  whole
• 44:11
  Life
• 44:12
  and
• 44:13
  things
• 44:13
  kind
• 44:13
  of
• 44:13
  wind
• 44:14
  down,
• 44:14
  you
• 44:14
  could
• 44:15
  really
• 44:15
  take
• 44:15
  it
• 44:15
  all
• 44:15
  in.
• 44:16
  But
• 44:16
  I'll
• 44:16
  get
• 44:16
  into
• 44:17
  like
• 44:17
  a
• 44:17
  very
• 44:17
  deep
• 44:18
  conversation
• 44:18
  with
• 44:18
  New
• 44:19
  York
• 44:19
  Police
• 44:19
  Department.
• 44:19
  I've
• 44:20
  been
• 44:20
  asking
• 44:20
  all
• 44:20
  the
• 44:20
  officers
• 44:21
  I've
• 44:21
  been
• 44:21
  seeing
• 44:21
  throughout
• 44:22
  this
• 44:22
  run.
• 44:22
  I'm
• 44:22
  like,
• 44:23
  you
• 44:23
  ever
• 44:23
  just
• 44:23
  root
• 44:24
  for
• 44:24
  them
• 44:24
  to
• 44:24
  like
• 44:25
  lose
• 44:25
  like
• 44:26
  just
• 44:26
  so
• 44:26
  it
• 44:26
  doesn't
• 44:27
  get
• 44:28
  crazy.
• 44:29
  And
• 44:29
  some
• 44:30
  of
• 44:30
  them
• 44:30
  are
• 44:30
  like,
• 44:30
  you
• 44:31
  know,
• 44:31
  it
• 44:31
  wouldn't
• 44:31
  hurt
• 44:32
  our
• 44:32
  case
• 44:32
  if,
• 44:33
  if
• 44:33
  they
• 44:33
  were
• 44:33
  to
• 44:33
  lose
• 44:34
  a
• 44:34
  feel.
• 44:34
  And
• 44:34
  they
• 44:34
  just
• 44:35
  been
• 44:35
  playing
• 44:35
  so
• 44:36
  well.
• 44:36
  And
• 44:37
  Plaza
• 44:38
  33,
• 44:38
  which
• 44:38
  is
• 44:39
  their
• 44:39
  outdoor,
• 44:40
  not
• 44:40
  only
• 44:41
  do
• 44:41
  they
• 44:41
  have
• 44:41
  an
• 44:41
  indoor
• 44:42
  watch
• 44:42
  party
• 44:42
  with
• 44:43
  12,000
• 44:43
  people,
• 44:44
  there's
• 44:44
  a
• 44:44
  whole
• 44:45
  nother
• 44:45
  watch
• 44:45
  party
• 44:46
  outside
• 44:46
  which
• 44:47
  is
• 44:47
  completely,
• 44:48
  I
• 44:48
  mean
• 44:48
  it's
• 44:48
  pouring
• 44:49
  rain
• 44:50
  in
• 44:50
  Game
• 44:50
  3,
• 44:51
  fans
• 44:51
  are
• 44:51
  out
• 44:51
  there
• 44:52
  soaking
• 44:52
  wet
• 44:53
  and
• 44:53
  ponchos,
• 44:54
  they're
• 44:54
  in
• 44:54
  there
• 44:54
  like
• 44:55
  sardines.
• 44:56
  And
• 44:57
  just
• 44:57
  talking
• 44:57
  to
• 44:57
  the
• 44:58
  officers,
• 44:58
  they're
• 44:58
  like,
• 44:59
  this
• 44:59
  city
• 44:59
  is
• 45:00
  in
• 45:00
  trouble
• 45:00
  if
• 45:00
  they
• 45:01
  win.
• 45:01
  I
• 45:01
  mean
• 45:01
  it's
• 45:01
  just
• 45:02
  going
• 45:02
  to
• 45:02
  be
• 45:03
  mayhem.
• 45:03
  And
• 45:03
  then
• 45:03
  I
• 45:04
  was
• 45:04
  talking
• 45:04
  to
• 45:05
  one
• 45:05
  of
• 45:05
  the
• 45:05
  security
• 45:06
  supres
• 45:06
  in
• 45:06
  the
• 45:07
  arena
• 45:07
  and
• 45:07
  he's
• 45:07
  like,
• 45:08
  if
• 45:09
  they're
• 45:09
  going
• 45:09
  to
• 45:09
  win
• 45:09
  at
• 45:09
  all,
• 45:09
  it
• 45:10
  better
• 45:10
  be
• 45:10
  on
• 45:10
  the
• 45:10
  road.
• 45:11
  He's
• 45:11
  like,
• 45:11
  we
• 45:11
  might
• 45:12
  not
• 45:12
  even
• 45:12
  be
• 45:12
  able
• 45:12
  to
• 45:12
  leave
• 45:13
  like
• 45:13
  if
• 45:13
  they
• 45:13
  want
• 45:14
  it
• 45:14
  all.
• 45:14
  Good
• 45:14
  point.
• 45:14
  Yeah.
• 45:16
  I
• 45:16
  mean
• 45:16
  it's
• 45:17
  been
• 45:17
  so
• 45:17
  long,
• 45:18
  Ray.
• 45:18
  The
• 45:18
  range
• 45:19
  of
• 45:19
  won
• 45:19
  one
• 45:19
  cup
• 45:20
  in
• 45:20
  over
• 45:20
  80
• 45:21
  years.
• 45:21
  The
• 45:21
  Knicks
• 45:22
  last
• 45:22
  championship.
• 45:23
  Walt
• 45:24
  Clyde
• 45:24
  Frazier's
• 45:25
  82
• 45:26
  years
• 45:26
  old
• 45:26
  now.
• 45:27
  I
• 45:27
  mean
• 45:27
  just
• 45:28
  for
• 45:28
  81,
• 45:29
  it's
• 45:29
  been
• 45:29
  a
• 45:29
  long
• 45:30
  time.
• 45:30
  And
• 45:30
  back
• 45:30
  to
• 45:31
  back
• 45:31
  Eastern
• 45:31
  Conference
• 45:32
  finals
• 45:32
  appearances.
• 45:33
  It's
• 45:33
  real
• 45:33
  and
• 45:34
  it
• 45:34
  feels
• 45:34
  more
• 45:34
  real
• 45:35
  than
• 45:35
  even
• 45:35
  did
• 45:35
  last
• 45:36
  year,
• 45:36
  I
• 45:36
  think.
• 45:37
  All
• 45:37
  right,
• 45:37
  so
• 45:38
  obviously
• 45:39
  for
• 45:39
  home
• 45:39
  court
• 45:39
  advantage
• 45:40
  you
• 45:40
  would
• 45:40
  want
• 45:40
  the
• 45:41
  Pistons
• 45:41
  to
• 45:42
  lose
• 45:42
  and
• 45:42
  Cavs
• 45:43
  to
• 45:43
  win,
• 45:45
  but
• 45:45
  is
• 45:45
  there
• 45:46
  a
• 45:46
  certain
• 45:46
  team
• 45:47
  that
• 45:47
  you
• 45:47
  think
• 45:48
  the
• 45:48
  Knicks
• 45:48
  either
• 45:48
  match
• 45:49
  up
• 45:49
  well
• 45:49
  with
• 45:49
  or
• 45:50
  a
• 45:50
  team
• 45:50
  that
• 45:50
  you
• 45:50
  want
• 45:50
  to
• 45:51
  overcome?
• 45:51
  If
• 45:52
  you
• 45:52
  are
• 45:52
  the
• 45:52
  Knicks,
• 45:54
  I
• 45:54
  think.
• 45:55
  Both
• 45:55
  teams
• 45:55
  are
• 45:56
  just
• 45:56
  so
• 45:57
  differently
• 45:58
  constructed
• 45:59
  and
• 45:59
  for
• 46:00
  different
• 46:00
  reasons.
• 46:01
  And
• 46:01
  I'll
• 46:02
  kind
• 46:02
  of
• 46:02
  go
• 46:03
  through
• 46:03
  why.
• 46:03
  I
• 46:03
  think
• 46:03
  Detroit
• 46:04
  is
• 46:04
  more
• 46:05
  of
• 46:05
  a
• 46:05
  defensive
• 46:06
  minded
• 46:07
  team
• 46:07
  with
• 46:07
  Thompson
• 46:08
  and
• 46:09
  Duran
• 46:10
  really
• 46:10
  in
• 46:10
  that
• 46:10
  front
• 46:11
  court.
• 46:11
  I
• 46:11
  think
• 46:11
  that
• 46:11
  brings
• 46:12
  a
• 46:12
  whole
• 46:12
  nother
• 46:13
  dimension.
• 46:13
  And
• 46:14
  then
• 46:14
  with
• 46:14
  Cleveland,
• 46:15
  they're
• 46:15
  so
• 46:15
  guard
• 46:16
  based
• 46:16
  with
• 46:16
  Harden
• 46:18
  and
• 46:18
  Mitchell
• 46:19
  and
• 46:19
  that's
• 46:19
  why
• 46:19
  they
• 46:19
  brought
• 46:20
  Harden
• 46:20
  in
• 46:20
  and
• 46:21
  they
• 46:21
  got
• 46:21
  rid
• 46:21
  of
• 46:21
  Darius
• 46:22
  Garland
• 46:22
  because
• 46:22
  that
• 46:23
  core
• 46:23
  wasn't
• 46:23
  working.
• 46:24
  So
• 46:24
  I
• 46:25
  think
• 46:25
  it's
• 46:25
  more
• 46:25
  of
• 46:25
  an
• 46:25
  offensive
• 46:26
  team
• 46:26
  of
• 46:26
  Cleveland.
• 46:27
  Of
• 46:27
  course
• 46:27
  Harden
• 46:28
  has
• 46:28
  that
• 46:28
  track
• 46:28
  record
• 46:29
  that
• 46:29
  he
• 46:29
  can't
• 46:29
  win.
• 46:30
  And
• 46:30
  the
• 46:30
  Knicks
• 46:31
  bounced
• 46:31
  Detroit
• 46:32
  last
• 46:32
  year.
• 46:33
  I
• 46:33
  think
• 46:33
  they're
• 46:34
  very
• 46:34
  different
• 46:34
  in
• 46:35
  that
• 46:35
  way.
• 46:35
  I
• 46:36
  don't
• 46:36
  know
• 46:36
  if
• 46:36
  there's
• 46:36
  a
• 46:36
  specific
• 46:37
  team
• 46:37
  that
• 46:38
  I
• 46:38
  want
• 46:38
  to
• 46:38
  Win
• 46:38
  or
• 46:39
  don't
• 46:39
  want
• 46:39
  to
• 46:39
  win,
• 46:40
  but
• 46:40
  I
• 46:41
  certainly
• 46:41
  just
• 46:41
  want
• 46:42
  Cleveland
• 46:42
  to
• 46:43
  win.
• 46:43
  Not
• 46:43
  for
• 46:43
  the
• 46:43
  matchup.
• 46:44
  I
• 46:44
  just
• 46:44
  think
• 46:44
  having
• 46:45
  home
• 46:45
  court,
• 46:46
  the
• 46:46
  Garden
• 46:47
  is
• 46:47
  so
• 46:48
  imperative
• 46:49
  and
• 46:50
  important.
• 46:50
  Like
• 46:50
  last
• 46:51
  year,
• 46:51
  people
• 46:51
  let
• 46:51
  me
• 46:52
  line
• 46:52
  up
• 46:52
  against
• 46:52
  Boston
• 46:53
  better.
• 46:53
  I'm
• 46:54
  like,
• 46:54
  why
• 46:54
  wouldn't
• 46:55
  you
• 46:55
  just
• 46:55
  want
• 46:55
  the
• 46:56
  home
• 46:56
  court?
• 46:56
  It's
• 46:57
  like
• 46:57
  employees
• 46:57
  saying.
• 46:58
  And
• 46:58
  I'm
• 46:58
  like,
• 46:59
  don't
• 46:59
  we
• 46:59
  want
• 46:59
  the
• 46:59
  money,
• 47:00
  too?
• 47:00
  Like,
• 47:00
  we're
• 47:01
  going
• 47:01
  to
• 47:01
  be
• 47:01
  there,
• 47:01
  you
• 47:02
  know,
• 47:02
  so,
• 47:03
  you
• 47:03
  know,
• 47:03
  we're
• 47:03
  just
• 47:03
  gonna
• 47:04
  be
• 47:04
  there
• 47:04
  anyways.
• 47:05
  So
• 47:05
  I.
• 47:06
  I'm
• 47:06
  gonna
• 47:06
  root
• 47:06
  for
• 47:07
  Cleveland.
• 47:07
  I
• 47:07
  think
• 47:07
  they
• 47:07
  match
• 47:08
  up
• 47:08
  better
• 47:08
  against
• 47:09
  Cleveland.
• 47:09
  The
• 47:09
  Horns
• 47:10
  a
• 47:10
  little
• 47:10
  older.
• 47:11
  I
• 47:11
  think
• 47:11
  Brunson
• 47:12
  could
• 47:12
  probably
• 47:13
  take
• 47:13
  care
• 47:13
  of
• 47:13
  him
• 47:13
  more
• 47:14
  than
• 47:14
  Cunningham.
• 47:15
  But
• 47:16
  I.
• 47:16
  I
• 47:16
  just
• 47:17
  feel
• 47:17
  good
• 47:17
  against
• 47:17
  whoever
• 47:18
  they
• 47:18
  go
• 47:18
  up
• 47:18
  against
• 47:19
  east,
• 47:19
  but
• 47:19
  honestly,
• 47:20
  I
• 47:20
  feel
• 47:21
  good
• 47:21
  against
• 47:21
  anybody
• 47:22
  they
• 47:22
  play.
• 47:22
  They
• 47:23
  beat
• 47:23
  the
• 47:23
  spurs
• 47:23
  at
• 47:24
  home
• 47:24
  when
• 47:24
  they
• 47:24
  won,
• 47:25
  like,
• 47:25
  20
• 47:25
  or
• 47:26
  21
• 47:26
  or
• 47:26
  some
• 47:27
  crazy
• 47:27
  stretch.
• 47:28
  They
• 47:28
  went
• 47:28
  toe
• 47:29
  to
• 47:29
  toe
• 47:29
  with
• 47:29
  the
• 47:29
  Thunder
• 47:30
  at
• 47:30
  home.
• 47:30
  I
• 47:31
  was
• 47:31
  there.
• 47:31
  I
• 47:32
  mean,
• 47:32
  they
• 47:32
  could
• 47:33
  be
• 47:33
  anybody,
• 47:34
  especially
• 47:34
  the
• 47:34
  way
• 47:35
  they're
• 47:35
  playing
• 47:35
  right
• 47:35
  now.
• 47:36
  I
• 47:36
  agree.
• 47:36
  I
• 47:37
  think
• 47:37
  that
• 47:37
  that's
• 47:37
  the
• 47:37
  case.
• 47:38
  I
• 47:38
  just
• 47:38
  think
• 47:38
  that
• 47:39
  the
• 47:39
  Knicks
• 47:39
  just
• 47:39
  need
• 47:40
  to
• 47:40
  continue
• 47:40
  to
• 47:40
  take
• 47:40
  it
• 47:41
  one
• 47:41
  step
• 47:41
  at
• 47:41
  a
• 47:41
  time.
• 47:42
  I
• 47:42
  do
• 47:42
  think
• 47:43
  the
• 47:43
  layoff
• 47:43
  is
• 47:43
  a
• 47:44
  little
• 47:44
  bit
• 47:44
  of
• 47:44
  an
• 47:44
  issue
• 47:44
  because
• 47:45
  it's
• 47:45
  going
• 47:45
  to
• 47:45
  be
• 47:45
  a
• 47:45
  minimum
• 47:46
  of
• 47:46
  seven
• 47:46
  days,
• 47:47
  if
• 47:47
  not
• 47:48
  more
• 47:48
  of
• 47:48
  them.
• 47:49
  Not,
• 47:49
  you
• 47:49
  know,
• 47:49
  being
• 47:50
  in
• 47:50
  an
• 47:50
  active
• 47:51
  game.
• 47:51
  But.
• 47:52
  But
• 47:52
  I
• 47:52
  think
• 47:52
  once
• 47:52
  it
• 47:52
  comes,
• 47:53
  push
• 47:53
  comes
• 47:53
  to
• 47:54
  shove,
• 47:55
  thinking
• 47:56
  they're
• 47:56
  going
• 47:56
  to.
• 47:56
  This
• 47:56
  is
• 47:56
  just
• 47:57
  my
• 47:57
  opinion.
• 47:57
  They're
• 47:57
  going
• 47:57
  to
• 47:57
  be
• 47:57
  on
• 47:58
  the
• 47:58
  road
• 47:58
  for
• 47:58
  game
• 47:58
  one,
• 47:58
  playing
• 47:59
  against
• 47:59
  Detroit.
• 47:59
  That's
• 48:00
  just
• 48:00
  my
• 48:00
  opinion.
• 48:00
  I
• 48:00
  think
• 48:01
  Detroit's
• 48:01
  going
• 48:01
  to
• 48:02
  find
• 48:02
  a
• 48:02
  way
• 48:02
  to
• 48:02
  pull
• 48:02
  that
• 48:02
  out.
• 48:03
  But
• 48:03
  it's.
• 48:03
  What
• 48:03
  level
• 48:04
  is
• 48:04
  Cade
• 48:04
  Cunningham
• 48:05
  at?
• 48:05
  Is
• 48:05
  he
• 48:05
  going
• 48:05
  to
• 48:05
  be
• 48:06
  above
• 48:06
  Brunson?
• 48:07
  I
• 48:07
  don't
• 48:07
  think
• 48:07
  Brunson
• 48:07
  would
• 48:08
  be
• 48:08
  guarding
• 48:08
  him.
• 48:08
  I
• 48:09
  think
• 48:09
  they'll
• 48:09
  put
• 48:09
  him
• 48:09
  on,
• 48:10
  you
• 48:10
  know,
• 48:10
  one
• 48:10
  of
• 48:10
  the
• 48:10
  other
• 48:11
  players.
• 48:12
  But
• 48:12
  the
• 48:13
  question
• 48:13
  then
• 48:13
  becomes,
• 48:14
  you
• 48:14
  know,
• 48:14
  Tobias
• 48:15
  Harris
• 48:15
  and,
• 48:17
  you
• 48:17
  know,
• 48:18
  guys
• 48:18
  like
• 48:20
  Jenkins
• 48:20
  that
• 48:21
  shoot
• 48:21
  the
• 48:21
  ball.
• 48:21
  You
• 48:21
  know,
• 48:22
  are
• 48:22
  they
• 48:22
  able
• 48:22
  to.
• 48:23
  To
• 48:23
  limit
• 48:24
  them
• 48:24
  and
• 48:24
  deal
• 48:25
  with
• 48:25
  the
• 48:25
  physicality?
• 48:26
  Because
• 48:26
  I
• 48:26
  think
• 48:26
  the
• 48:26
  Knicks
• 48:27
  have
• 48:27
  shown
• 48:27
  that
• 48:28
  the
• 48:28
  things
• 48:28
  that
• 48:29
  gave
• 48:29
  them
• 48:29
  problems,
• 48:30
  they
• 48:30
  were
• 48:30
  able
• 48:30
  to
• 48:30
  make
• 48:31
  changes.
• 48:31
  So
• 48:32
  even
• 48:32
  if
• 48:32
  the
• 48:32
  Knicks
• 48:32
  went
• 48:33
  down,
• 48:33
  let's
• 48:33
  say,
• 48:33
  two
• 48:34
  one
• 48:34
  after
• 48:34
  three
• 48:34
  games,
• 48:35
  I
• 48:35
  still
• 48:35
  think
• 48:36
  they
• 48:36
  have
• 48:36
  a
• 48:36
  good
• 48:36
  shot
• 48:36
  in
• 48:36
  that
• 48:37
  series,
• 48:37
  even
• 48:37
  if
• 48:37
  they
• 48:38
  don't
• 48:38
  have
• 48:38
  home
• 48:38
  court
• 48:38
  advantage,
• 48:39
  because
• 48:39
  I
• 48:39
  think
• 48:40
  they've
• 48:40
  done
• 48:40
  a
• 48:40
  good
• 48:40
  job
• 48:40
  of
• 48:41
  finding
• 48:41
  where
• 48:41
  their
• 48:41
  problems
• 48:42
  are
• 48:42
  and
• 48:42
  making
• 48:43
  changes
• 48:43
  in
• 48:43
  the
• 48:44
  middle
• 48:44
  of
• 48:44
  a
• 48:44
  series.
• 48:46
  And
• 48:46
  the
• 48:47
  one
• 48:47
  thing
• 48:47
  about
• 48:47
  Knicks
• 48:48
  fans,
• 48:48
  they
• 48:48
  travel,
• 48:49
  and
• 48:49
  they're
• 48:50
  loud,
• 48:50
  and
• 48:50
  they
• 48:51
  can
• 48:51
  be
• 48:51
  obnoxious.
• 48:52
  Tell
• 48:52
  Philly
• 48:52
  that's.
• 48:54
  And
• 48:54
  I
• 48:55
  mean,
• 48:55
  that's
• 48:55
  just
• 48:55
  the
• 48:56
  fact,
• 48:56
  like
• 48:56
  Josh
• 48:56
  Hart
• 48:57
  was
• 48:57
  like,
• 48:57
  this
• 48:57
  is
• 48:58
  not
• 48:58
  a
• 48:58
  sports
• 48:58
  town
• 48:59
  anymore.
• 48:59
  Like,
• 48:59
  Knicks
• 49:00
  fans
• 49:00
  just
• 49:00
  travel
• 49:01
  and
• 49:01
  herds
• 49:01
  to
• 49:02
  Philadelphia.
• 49:03
  And
• 49:03
  you
• 49:03
  know,
• 49:03
  like,
• 49:03
  for
• 49:04
  Knicks
• 49:04
  fans
• 49:04
  out,
• 49:04
  Detroit's
• 49:05
  not
• 49:05
  that
• 49:05
  far.
• 49:06
  That's
• 49:06
  really
• 49:06
  talking
• 49:06
  to
• 49:07
  my
• 49:07
  boys.
• 49:07
  Like,
• 49:07
  if
• 49:07
  Cleveland
• 49:08
  goes,
• 49:08
  like,
• 49:08
  they're
• 49:09
  not
• 49:09
  that
• 49:09
  far
• 49:10
  and
• 49:10
  fans
• 49:11
  want
• 49:11
  to
• 49:11
  travel
• 49:11
  because
• 49:12
  everywhere
• 49:12
  else
• 49:13
  is
• 49:13
  cheaper
• 49:14
  than
• 49:14
  New
• 49:14
  York.
• 49:15
  I
• 49:15
  mean,
• 49:15
  that
• 49:15
  is
• 49:15
  just,
• 49:16
  that's
• 49:17
  just
• 49:17
  the
• 49:17
  truth.
• 49:17
  And
• 49:19
  give
• 49:20
  him
• 49:20
  his
• 49:20
  flowers.
• 49:20
  Mikel
• 49:21
  Bridges
• 49:21
  was
• 49:22
  phenomenal
• 49:22
  in
• 49:23
  this
• 49:23
  series.
• 49:23
  He
• 49:24
  shut
• 49:24
  down
• 49:24
  Maxey.
• 49:25
  That
• 49:25
  was
• 49:25
  the
• 49:26
  big
• 49:26
  deal.
• 49:26
  I
• 49:26
  have
• 49:27
  an
• 49:27
  MSG
• 49:27
  group
• 49:28
  chat
• 49:28
  where
• 49:28
  we
• 49:29
  talk
• 49:29
  hoops
• 49:29
  a
• 49:29
  ton
• 49:30
  and
• 49:30
  I'm
• 49:30
  like,
• 49:30
  for
• 49:30
  the
• 49:31
  Knicks
• 49:31
  to
• 49:31
  really
• 49:32
  take
• 49:32
  control
• 49:32
  in
• 49:33
  this
• 49:33
  series,
• 49:34
  it's
• 49:34
  going
• 49:34
  to
• 49:35
  have
• 49:35
  to
• 49:35
  be
• 49:35
  Bridges
• 49:36
  on
• 49:36
  the
• 49:36
  defensive
• 49:37
  end.
• 49:37
  And
• 49:37
  he
• 49:37
  just
• 49:37
  shut
• 49:38
  down
• 49:38
  Tyrese
• 49:39
  Maxey.
• 49:39
  He
• 49:40
  did.
• 49:40
  He
• 49:40
  shut
• 49:40
  him
• 49:41
  down.
• 49:41
  I
• 49:42
  mean,
• 49:42
  as
• 49:42
  much
• 49:42
  as
• 49:42
  I
• 49:43
  love
• 49:43
  Brunson
• 49:44
  on
• 49:44
  the
• 49:44
  offensive
• 49:44
  end,
• 49:46
  he
• 49:46
  would
• 49:46
  even
• 49:46
  admit
• 49:47
  it.
• 49:47
  He's
• 49:47
  a
• 49:47
  defensive
• 49:48
  liability
• 49:49
  and
• 49:49
  Bridges
• 49:49
  is
• 49:50
  that
• 49:50
  kind
• 49:50
  of
• 49:50
  guy
• 49:51
  that
• 49:51
  can
• 49:51
  really
• 49:51
  take
• 49:52
  over
• 49:52
  in
• 49:52
  the
• 49:52
  defensive
• 49:53
  end.
• 49:53
  And
• 49:54
  I'm
• 49:54
  also
• 49:54
  going
• 49:54
  to
• 49:54
  credit
• 49:55
  Landry
• 49:55
  Shamon,
• 49:56
  a
• 49:56
  guy
• 49:56
  who
• 49:56
  wasn't
• 49:57
  in
• 49:57
  the
• 49:57
  rotation
• 49:57
  as
• 49:58
  you
• 49:58
  alluded
• 49:58
  to.
• 49:59
  And
• 49:59
  he
• 49:59
  could
• 50:00
  really
• 50:00
  play
• 50:00
  defense
• 50:01
  on
• 50:01
  the
• 50:01
  wing.
• 50:01
  He's
• 50:02
  a
• 50:02
  lengthy.
• 50:03
  He
• 50:03
  could
• 50:03
  guard
• 50:03
  anybody.
• 50:04
  Paul,
• 50:04
  George,
• 50:05
  Edgecombe,
• 50:06
  he
• 50:06
  can
• 50:06
  really
• 50:07
  move.
• 50:07
  And
• 50:08
  I
• 50:08
  mean,
• 50:08
  if
• 50:08
  you.
• 50:09
  There's
• 50:09
  a
• 50:09
  video,
• 50:09
  I
• 50:09
  believe
• 50:10
  it's
• 50:10
  after
• 50:10
  game
• 50:11
  Warner
• 50:11
  game
• 50:11
  too.
• 50:12
  Like,
• 50:12
  he
• 50:12
  didn't
• 50:13
  play.
• 50:13
  And
• 50:13
  in
• 50:13
  the
• 50:14
  back
• 50:14
  of
• 50:14
  the.
• 50:14
  It's
• 50:14
  just
• 50:15
  him
• 50:15
  running
• 50:15
  sprints
• 50:16
  in
• 50:16
  the
• 50:16
  back,
• 50:17
  like,
• 50:17
  just
• 50:17
  like
• 50:17
  staying
• 50:18
  warm.
• 50:18
  You
• 50:19
  know,
• 50:19
  something
• 50:19
  that
• 50:20
  a
• 50:20
  veteran,
• 50:20
  he
• 50:20
  could
• 50:21
  just
• 50:21
  soak
• 50:21
  his
• 50:21
  head
• 50:22
  like,
• 50:22
  hey,
• 50:22
  I've
• 50:22
  been
• 50:22
  in
• 50:23
  the
• 50:23
  rotation
• 50:23
  all
• 50:24
  year.
• 50:25
  Now
• 50:25
  you're
• 50:25
  benching
• 50:26
  me,
• 50:26
  you
• 50:26
  know,
• 50:27
  and
• 50:27
  I
• 50:28
  mean,
• 50:28
  just
• 50:28
  a
• 50:28
  very
• 50:29
  fun
• 50:29
  player
• 50:30
  to
• 50:30
  watch
• 50:30
  and
• 50:31
  such
• 50:31
  a
• 50:31
  great
• 50:31
  shooter
• 50:32
  when
• 50:32
  he's
• 50:32
  on
• 50:33
  too.
• 50:33
  And
• 50:34
  another
• 50:34
  guy,
• 50:35
  as
• 50:35
  I
• 50:35
  said
• 50:35
  earlier
• 50:35
  on
• 50:36
  the
• 50:36
  veteran
• 50:36
  minimum
• 50:37
  like
• 50:37
  Leon
• 50:37
  Rose
• 50:38
  has
• 50:38
  done
• 50:38
  such
• 50:38
  a
• 50:39
  great
• 50:39
  job
• 50:39
  constructing
• 50:40
  this
• 50:40
  team.
• 50:41
  And
• 50:41
  it's
• 50:41
  great.
• 50:41
  We
• 50:41
  don't
• 50:41
  have
• 50:42
  to
• 50:42
  talk
• 50:42
  about
• 50:42
  why
• 50:42
  or
• 50:43
  should
• 50:43
  we
• 50:43
  fire
• 50:44
  Carlos
• 50:44
  Mendoza.
• 50:45
  We
• 50:45
  could
• 50:45
  talk
• 50:45
  about
• 50:45
  the
• 50:46
  positives
• 50:46
  of
• 50:46
  the
• 50:46
  New
• 50:47
  York
• 50:47
  Knicks.
• 50:47
  So
• 50:48
  it
• 50:48
  gives
• 50:48
  us
• 50:48
  something
• 50:49
  positive
• 50:49
  to
• 50:49
  talk
• 50:49
  about.
• 50:50
  AJ
• 50:51
  no
• 50:51
  doubt
• 50:52
  about
• 50:52
  it.
• 50:52
  I
• 50:52
  mean,
• 50:53
  I
• 50:53
  watch
• 50:53
  them
• 50:54
  and
• 50:54
  I
• 50:54
  root
• 50:55
  my
• 50:55
  heart
• 50:55
  out,
• 50:55
  but
• 50:56
  it's
• 50:57
  a
• 50:57
  very
• 50:57
  challenging
• 50:58
  watch.
• 50:59
  I
• 50:59
  mean,
• 50:59
  if
• 50:59
  you
• 50:59
  would
• 50:59
  have
• 51:00
  told
• 51:00
  me
• 51:01
  eight
• 51:01
  games
• 51:01
  out
• 51:02
  of
• 51:02
  the
• 51:02
  wild
• 51:02
  card,
• 51:03
  double
• 51:03
  digit
• 51:04
  games
• 51:04
  out
• 51:04
  of
• 51:04
  the
• 51:04
  National
• 51:05
  League
• 51:05
  east,
• 51:06
  and
• 51:06
  it's
• 51:06
  the
• 51:07
  middle
• 51:07
  of
• 51:07
  May.
• 51:07
  I
• 51:08
  mean,
• 51:08
  not
• 51:08
  even
• 51:08
  the
• 51:08
  middle
• 51:09
  of
• 51:09
  May,
• 51:09
  it's
• 51:09
  really
• 51:09
  the
• 51:09
  beginning
• 51:10
  of
• 51:10
  May.
• 51:10
  Yeah,
• 51:11
  but
• 51:11
  you're
• 51:11
  25%
• 51:12
  through
• 51:12
  the
• 51:12
  season.
• 51:14
  It's,
• 51:14
  it's
• 51:14
  truly
• 51:15
  insane.
• 51:15
  But
• 51:16
  listen,
• 51:17
  I'm,
• 51:17
  I'm
• 51:17
  delusional.
• 51:18
  I'm
• 51:18
  a
• 51:18
  die
• 51:19
  hard
• 51:19
  fan.
• 51:19
  You
• 51:20
  know
• 51:20
  the
• 51:20
  Philadelphia.
• 51:20
  I
• 51:21
  took
• 51:21
  a
• 51:21
  trip
• 51:21
  with
• 51:22
  my
• 51:22
  buddy
• 51:22
  yesterday,
• 51:22
  see
• 51:23
  the
• 51:23
  Flyers.
• 51:24
  I
• 51:24
  was
• 51:24
  like
• 51:24
  $50
• 51:25
  to
• 51:25
  go
• 51:25
  to
• 51:25
  game
• 51:26
  for
• 51:26
  like,
• 51:26
  let's
• 51:26
  make
• 51:26
  a
• 51:26
  day
• 51:27
  out
• 51:27
  of
• 51:27
  it.
• 51:27
  I
• 51:27
  was
• 51:27
  off
• 51:27
  work,
• 51:28
  he
• 51:28
  was
• 51:28
  off
• 51:28
  work.
• 51:29
  And
• 51:29
  they
• 51:29
  had
• 51:29
  a
• 51:29
  2%
• 51:30
  chance
• 51:30
  after
• 51:31
  the
• 51:31
  Olympic
• 51:31
  break.
• 51:32
  So
• 51:32
  listen,
• 51:33
  I
• 51:34
  think
• 51:34
  the
• 51:34
  Mets
• 51:34
  have
• 51:34
  like
• 51:34
  a
• 51:35
  1.4
• 51:36
  right
• 51:36
  now.
• 51:36
  I
• 51:36
  mean
• 51:36
  it's
• 51:37
  probably
• 51:37
  even
• 51:37
  lower
• 51:38
  the
• 51:38
  OMG
• 51:38
  grimace
• 51:39
  year.
• 51:40
  So
• 51:40
  hey,
• 51:40
  why
• 51:40
  not
• 51:41
  root
• 51:41
  and
• 51:41
  hope
• 51:41
  they
• 51:41
  could
• 51:42
  pull
• 51:42
  off
• 51:42
  a
• 51:42
  miracle,
• 51:42
  but
• 51:43
  they're
• 51:44
  talking
• 51:44
  about
• 51:44
  trading
• 51:45
  Peralta
• 51:45
  on
• 51:45
  June
• 51:46
  1
• 51:46
  and
• 51:46
  stuff
• 51:47
  like
• 51:47
  that.
• 51:48
  So
• 51:49
  it
• 51:49
  could
• 51:49
  go
• 51:50
  downhill
• 51:50
  fast.
• 51:51
  But
• 51:51
  as
• 51:51
  long
• 51:51
  as
• 51:51
  that
• 51:51
  guy's
• 51:52
  the
• 51:52
  manager,
• 51:52
  I
• 51:53
  can't,
• 51:53
  I
• 51:53
  can't
• 51:54
  see
• 51:54
  them
• 51:54
  making
• 51:54
  any
• 51:55
  sort
• 51:55
  of
• 51:55
  run.
• 51:56
  Keep
• 51:56
  it
• 51:56
  positive.
• 51:57
  Yeah,
• 51:57
  you
• 51:57
  know
• 51:58
  when
• 51:58
  I
• 51:58
  heard
• 51:58
  that
• 51:58
  too
• 51:59
  AJ
• 51:59
  about
• 52:00
  and
• 52:00
  it
• 52:00
  is
• 52:00
  a
• 52:00
  legit
• 52:01
  rumor
• 52:01
  that
• 52:01
  if
• 52:02
  they
• 52:02
  are
• 52:02
  out
• 52:02
  of
• 52:02
  it,
• 52:03
  getting
• 52:03
  rid
• 52:03
  of
• 52:03
  Peralta,
• 52:04
  when
• 52:04
  they
• 52:04
  traded
• 52:05
  for
• 52:05
  him,
• 52:05
  the
• 52:05
  excitement,
• 52:06
  you
• 52:06
  know,
• 52:06
  we
• 52:06
  finally
• 52:07
  we
• 52:07
  have
• 52:07
  the
• 52:07
  frontline
• 52:08
  starter,
• 52:08
  the
• 52:08
  ace.
• 52:09
  And
• 52:09
  who
• 52:10
  would
• 52:10
  have
• 52:10
  thought
• 52:11
  that
• 52:11
  we
• 52:11
  would
• 52:11
  be
• 52:11
  having
• 52:12
  this
• 52:12
  conversation
• 52:13
  and
• 52:13
  if
• 52:14
  it'll
• 52:15
  be,
• 52:15
  you
• 52:15
  know,
• 52:15
  once
• 52:15
  again
• 52:15
  a
• 52:16
  fire
• 52:16
  sale
• 52:16
  and
• 52:16
  a
• 52:16
  start
• 52:17
  over.
• 52:17
  I
• 52:18
  just
• 52:18
  don't
• 52:18
  get
• 52:18
  how
• 52:20
  upper
• 52:20
  management
• 52:21
  thought
• 52:22
  that
• 52:22
  getting
• 52:22
  rid
• 52:22
  of
• 52:22
  the
• 52:23
  entire
• 52:23
  coaching
• 52:23
  staff
• 52:24
  was
• 52:24
  getting
• 52:25
  rid
• 52:25
  of
• 52:25
  the
• 52:25
  entire
• 52:25
  coaching
• 52:26
  staff.
• 52:26
  But
• 52:26
  keeping
• 52:27
  the
• 52:27
  manager
• 52:27
  was
• 52:27
  a
• 52:27
  good
• 52:27
  idea.
• 52:28
  You
• 52:28
  know,
• 52:28
  getting.
• 52:29
  You
• 52:30
  can
• 52:30
  say
• 52:30
  what
• 52:30
  you
• 52:30
  want
• 52:30
  with
• 52:31
  Alonzo
• 52:32
  and
• 52:32
  Nimmo
• 52:32
  and
• 52:33
  McNeil.
• 52:34
  We
• 52:34
  could
• 52:34
  talk
• 52:34
  about
• 52:35
  that
• 52:35
  all
• 52:35
  day
• 52:35
  long.
• 52:35
  But
• 52:36
  so
• 52:36
  much
• 52:36
  change,
• 52:37
  I
• 52:38
  mean,
• 52:38
  it
• 52:38
  was
• 52:38
  really,
• 52:39
  really
• 52:39
  rolling
• 52:40
  the
• 52:40
  dice
• 52:41
  thinking
• 52:41
  that
• 52:42
  everything
• 52:42
  was
• 52:42
  going
• 52:42
  to
• 52:43
  come
• 52:43
  up
• 52:43
  here,
• 52:43
  you
• 52:44
  know,
• 52:44
  opposite
• 52:44
  of
• 52:44
  snake
• 52:45
  eyes
• 52:45
  like
• 52:45
  it
• 52:45
  has.
• 52:46
  I
• 52:46
  mean,
• 52:46
  do
• 52:47
  you
• 52:47
  think
• 52:47
  that
• 52:47
  was.
• 52:48
  Do
• 52:48
  you
• 52:48
  agree
• 52:48
  with
• 52:48
  me
• 52:48
  that
• 52:49
  maybe
• 52:49
  there
• 52:49
  was
• 52:49
  a
• 52:49
  little
• 52:49
  too
• 52:50
  much
• 52:50
  change?
• 52:52
  No
• 52:53
  doubt.
• 52:53
  And
• 52:55
  when
• 52:55
  you
• 52:55
  look
• 52:56
  back
• 52:56
  on
• 52:56
  it,
• 52:57
  no
• 52:57
  matter
• 52:57
  what
• 52:58
  now,
• 52:59
  everyone
• 52:59
  was
• 52:59
  like,
• 52:59
  you
• 53:00
  know,
• 53:00
  Alonzo
• 53:01
  got
• 53:01
  paid
• 53:01
  too
• 53:01
  much
• 53:02
  money
• 53:02
  or
• 53:02
  this
• 53:02
  or
• 53:03
  that,
• 53:03
  or
• 53:03
  Stearns
• 53:04
  didn't
• 53:04
  look
• 53:04
  into
• 53:04
  it
• 53:05
  too
• 53:05
  much
• 53:05
  or
• 53:06
  all
• 53:06
  these
• 53:06
  different
• 53:07
  rumors
• 53:07
  you
• 53:07
  just
• 53:08
  read
• 53:08
  all
• 53:08
  around
• 53:09
  and
• 53:09
  you
• 53:09
  know,
• 53:09
  Alonzo
• 53:10
  really
• 53:10
  just
• 53:12
  blasted
• 53:13
  Stearns
• 53:13
  this
• 53:13
  last
• 53:14
  week,
• 53:14
  you
• 53:14
  know,
• 53:14
  absolutely
• 53:15
  blasted
• 53:15
  them.
• 53:16
  It's
• 53:17
  impossible
• 53:18
  production
• 53:19
  to
• 53:19
  replace
• 53:20
  it's
• 53:21
  imp.
• 53:21
  Like
• 53:21
  no
• 53:22
  power
• 53:22
  hitter
• 53:23
  in
• 53:23
  the
• 53:23
  franchise's
• 53:24
  history
• 53:25
  has
• 53:25
  been
• 53:26
  as
• 53:26
  good
• 53:26
  as
• 53:26
  him.
• 53:27
  So
• 53:28
  getting
• 53:28
  rid
• 53:28
  of
• 53:29
  him,
• 53:29
  you
• 53:29
  know,
• 53:29
  he's
• 53:29
  gonna
• 53:30
  hit
• 53:30
  35
• 53:31
  homers,
• 53:31
  he's
• 53:31
  gonna
• 53:32
  have
• 53:32
  110
• 53:33
  RBI.
• 53:33
  He's
• 53:34
  probably
• 53:34
  gonna
• 53:34
  play
• 53:34
  for
• 53:34
  better
• 53:35
  in
• 53:35
  Baltimore
• 53:35
  now
• 53:36
  he's
• 53:36
  raking.
• 53:37
  He's
• 53:37
  on
• 53:37
  my
• 53:37
  fans
• 53:37
  Team,
• 53:38
  he's
• 53:38
  raking
• 53:39
  now,
• 53:39
  so,
• 53:41
  you
• 53:41
  know,
• 53:42
  and
• 53:42
  then
• 53:42
  McNeil,
• 53:43
  everybody
• 53:43
  want
• 53:43
  him
• 53:44
  out.
• 53:44
  He's
• 53:44
  playing
• 53:45
  great.
• 53:46
  Nimmo
• 53:47
  is
• 53:47
  a
• 53:47
  little
• 53:47
  cold,
• 53:47
  but
• 53:48
  the
• 53:48
  guys
• 53:48
  that
• 53:48
  they
• 53:49
  got
• 53:49
  to
• 53:49
  replace
• 53:50
  them
• 53:50
  are
• 53:50
  just
• 53:51
  so
• 53:51
  old.
• 53:52
  And
• 53:52
  it's
• 53:52
  nothing
• 53:53
  against
• 53:54
  Marcus
• 53:54
  Simeon
• 53:55
  or
• 53:55
  Jorge
• 53:56
  Polanco.
• 53:57
  I
• 53:57
  mean,
• 53:57
  who
• 53:57
  was
• 53:58
  great
• 53:58
  for
• 53:58
  the
• 53:58
  Mariners
• 53:59
  last
• 53:59
  year,
• 53:59
  but
• 53:59
  they're
• 54:00
  just.
• 54:00
  They're
• 54:01
  on
• 54:01
  their.
• 54:02
  They're
• 54:02
  on
• 54:02
  the
• 54:02
  back
• 54:03
  nine.
• 54:03
  That's
• 54:03
  how
• 54:04
  I'll
• 54:04
  put.
• 54:04
  They're
• 54:04
  on
• 54:04
  the
• 54:04
  back
• 54:05
  nine,
• 54:05
  and
• 54:06
  they're
• 54:06
  just
• 54:06
  old
• 54:07
  and
• 54:07
  there's.
• 54:08
  And
• 54:08
  even
• 54:08
  if
• 54:09
  you
• 54:09
  try
• 54:09
  and
• 54:09
  get
• 54:09
  rid
• 54:10
  of
• 54:10
  them
• 54:10
  at
• 54:10
  the.
• 54:10
  They're
• 54:11
  just
• 54:11
  not
• 54:11
  going
• 54:11
  to
• 54:11
  get
• 54:11
  much.
• 54:12
  And,
• 54:13
  you
• 54:13
  know,
• 54:13
  Stearns
• 54:13
  looks
• 54:13
  like
• 54:14
  a
• 54:14
  complete,
• 54:15
  complete
• 54:15
  fool
• 54:16
  as
• 54:17
  bro
• 54:17
  lighting
• 54:18
  it
• 54:18
  up
• 54:18
  in
• 54:18
  Milwaukee.
• 54:19
  And
• 54:20
  then
• 54:20
  we
• 54:20
  got
• 54:20
  two
• 54:21
  months
• 54:21
  of
• 54:21
  Freddie
• 54:21
  Peralta.
• 54:22
  It's
• 54:22
  like,
• 54:23
  just
• 54:24
  dumb.
• 54:24
  I
• 54:24
  mean,
• 54:25
  I
• 54:25
  immediately.
• 54:26
  I
• 54:26
  looked
• 54:26
  up
• 54:26
  his
• 54:27
  contract,
• 54:27
  and
• 54:27
  I'm
• 54:28
  like,
• 54:28
  they
• 54:28
  don't
• 54:28
  resign
• 54:29
  them.
• 54:30
  Stern's
• 54:31
  like
• 54:31
  a
• 54:31
  fool.
• 54:31
  And
• 54:31
  it
• 54:32
  certainly
• 54:32
  looks
• 54:33
  that
• 54:33
  way.
• 54:35
  It's
• 54:35
  just.
• 54:35
  Yeah,
• 54:36
  it's.
• 54:36
  Chris
• 54:37
  and
• 54:37
  I
• 54:37
  talked
• 54:37
  about
• 54:38
  this
• 54:38
  a
• 54:38
  couple
• 54:38
  weeks
• 54:38
  ago.
• 54:39
  You
• 54:39
  know,
• 54:40
  I
• 54:41
  started
• 54:41
  watching
• 54:41
  the
• 54:41
  Mets
• 54:42
  going
• 54:42
  to
• 54:42
  games,
• 54:43
  you
• 54:43
  know,
• 54:43
  in
• 54:43
  the
• 54:43
  late
• 54:44
  70s
• 54:44
  when
• 54:44
  I
• 54:44
  was,
• 54:45
  like,
• 54:45
  around
• 54:45
  9,
• 54:45
  10
• 54:46
  years
• 54:46
  old.
• 54:46
  And
• 54:47
  you
• 54:47
  could.
• 54:47
  You
• 54:47
  could
• 54:48
  get
• 54:49
  two
• 54:49
  tickets
• 54:49
  for
• 54:49
  one
• 54:50
  on
• 54:50
  the
• 54:50
  rail
• 54:50
  and
• 54:51
  all
• 54:51
  that
• 54:51
  stuff.
• 54:51
  I
• 54:51
  mean,
• 54:51
  I
• 54:51
  know
• 54:53
  with
• 54:53
  season
• 54:53
  tickets
• 54:54
  and
• 54:54
  corporations
• 54:55
  and
• 54:55
  boxes
• 54:55
  and
• 54:55
  whatever
• 54:55
  else,
• 54:56
  there's
• 54:56
  already
• 54:57
  so
• 54:57
  many
• 54:57
  tickets
• 54:58
  sold
• 54:58
  for
• 54:58
  the
• 54:58
  Mets.
• 54:59
  But
• 54:59
  who's
• 54:59
  going
• 54:59
  to
• 54:59
  want
• 54:59
  to
• 54:59
  go
• 54:59
  to
• 55:00
  a
• 55:00
  game?
• 55:00
  I
• 55:01
  mean,
• 55:01
  for
• 55:01
  what
• 55:02
  reason?
• 55:03
  You
• 55:03
  know,
• 55:04
  one
• 55:04
  thing
• 55:04
  I'll
• 55:05
  definitely
• 55:05
  add,
• 55:05
  and.
• 55:06
  And
• 55:06
  listen,
• 55:07
  I'm
• 55:07
  that
• 55:07
  fan
• 55:08
  that
• 55:08
  will
• 55:08
  go,
• 55:09
  no
• 55:09
  matter
• 55:09
  the
• 55:10
  record,
• 55:11
  no
• 55:11
  matter
• 55:11
  how
• 55:11
  many
• 55:12
  games
• 55:12
  that,
• 55:12
  like,
• 55:12
  I
• 55:12
  think
• 55:12
  there's
• 55:13
  nothing
• 55:13
  more
• 55:13
  fun
• 55:14
  than
• 55:14
  going
• 55:14
  with
• 55:14
  your
• 55:15
  pop.
• 55:15
  And
• 55:15
  I
• 55:15
  know
• 55:15
  my
• 55:16
  dad's
• 55:16
  listening.
• 55:16
  Like,
• 55:17
  scoring
• 55:17
  a
• 55:17
  game.
• 55:17
  I've
• 55:17
  been
• 55:18
  scoring
• 55:18
  games
• 55:18
  since
• 55:18
  I
• 55:18
  was
• 55:19
  4
• 55:19
  years
• 55:19
  old
• 55:19
  at
• 55:20
  chasing,
• 55:20
  like,
• 55:20
  just.
• 55:21
  It's
• 55:21
  my
• 55:21
  thing.
• 55:21
  I
• 55:21
  know
• 55:22
  it's
• 55:22
  nerdy,
• 55:22
  it's
• 55:22
  past
• 55:23
  my
• 55:23
  time,
• 55:23
  but
• 55:23
  I
• 55:24
  just
• 55:24
  love
• 55:24
  doing
• 55:24
  it.
• 55:25
  And,
• 55:26
  you
• 55:26
  know,
• 55:26
  I
• 55:27
  have
• 55:27
  season
• 55:27
  tickets
• 55:28
  for
• 55:28
  the
• 55:28
  team.
• 55:28
  And
• 55:29
  the
• 55:29
  bottom
• 55:29
  line
• 55:29
  is
• 55:30
  that
• 55:30
  the
• 55:30
  Mets
• 55:31
  love
• 55:31
  to
• 55:31
  do
• 55:32
  dynamic
• 55:33
  pricing,
• 55:33
  which
• 55:33
  I
• 55:34
  don't
• 55:34
  know
• 55:34
  if
• 55:34
  you
• 55:34
  know
• 55:34
  what
• 55:34
  that
• 55:35
  means
• 55:35
  exactly,
• 55:36
  but
• 55:37
  basically,
• 55:37
  when
• 55:38
  the
• 55:38
  Met
• 55:38
  schedule
• 55:39
  comes
• 55:39
  out,
• 55:39
  there's
• 55:40
  certain
• 55:40
  colors
• 55:41
  based
• 55:41
  on
• 55:41
  what
• 55:42
  kind
• 55:42
  of
• 55:42
  game
• 55:43
  it
• 55:43
  is,
• 55:43
  like
• 55:43
  Marty
• 55:44
  and
• 55:44
  then
• 55:45
  like
• 55:45
  a
• 55:45
  lower
• 55:45
  tier.
• 55:46
  So
• 55:46
  again,
• 55:47
  against
• 55:47
  the
• 55:47
  Twins
• 55:48
  on
• 55:48
  a
• 55:48
  Tuesday
• 55:48
  night
• 55:49
  or
• 55:49
  the
• 55:49
  Tigers
• 55:50
  coming
• 55:50
  up
• 55:50
  is
• 55:50
  the
• 55:50
  lowest
• 55:51
  tier.
• 55:52
  But
• 55:52
  then
• 55:52
  the
• 55:52
  tight.
• 55:53
  You
• 55:53
  know,
• 55:53
  the
• 55:53
  Yankees
• 55:54
  this
• 55:54
  weekend
• 55:55
  is
• 55:55
  the
• 55:55
  highest
• 55:56
  here.
• 55:56
  They
• 55:57
  really
• 55:57
  try
• 55:58
  and
• 55:58
  get
• 55:58
  you
• 55:58
  on
• 55:58
  that
• 55:59
  dynamic
• 56:00
  pricing.
• 56:00
  And
• 56:00
  the
• 56:01
  Mets
• 56:01
  do
• 56:01
  it
• 56:02
  half
• 56:02
  a
• 56:02
  season.
• 56:03
  So
• 56:04
  with
• 56:04
  the.
• 56:04
  Holt
• 56:04
  said,
• 56:05
  all
• 56:05
  right,
• 56:05
  we're
• 56:05
  going
• 56:05
  to
• 56:05
  be
• 56:06
  really
• 56:06
  good
• 56:06
  in
• 56:07
  the
• 56:07
  pennant
• 56:07
  race
• 56:08
  and
• 56:08
  we
• 56:08
  could
• 56:08
  just
• 56:08
  boost
• 56:09
  them
• 56:09
  up
• 56:09
  a
• 56:09
  little
• 56:10
  bit
• 56:10
  more.
• 56:11
  So
• 56:11
  listen,
• 56:12
  it
• 56:12
  backfired
• 56:13
  on
• 56:13
  them.
• 56:13
  Oh,
• 56:14
  yeah.
• 56:14
  Which
• 56:14
  I'm
• 56:14
  happy
• 56:15
  about
• 56:15
  a
• 56:15
  little
• 56:16
  bit.
• 56:16
  But
• 56:16
  they're
• 56:16
  like
• 56:16
  the
• 56:17
  only
• 56:17
  team
• 56:18
  that
• 56:18
  does
• 56:18
  this.
• 56:18
  And
• 56:19
  it's
• 56:19
  just
• 56:19
  such
• 56:19
  a
• 56:19
  money
• 56:20
  grab.
• 56:21
  It's
• 56:21
  not
• 56:21
  like
• 56:22
  our
• 56:22
  owner,
• 56:22
  I
• 56:22
  think,
• 56:23
  cares
• 56:23
  more
• 56:23
  about,
• 56:24
  you
• 56:24
  know,
• 56:25
  playgrounds
• 56:26
  and
• 56:26
  Catholic
• 56:26
  casinos
• 56:27
  and
• 56:28
  other
• 56:28
  things.
• 56:28
  He
• 56:29
  doesn't
• 56:29
  really
• 56:29
  care.
• 56:30
  He
• 56:30
  tried.
• 56:30
  I
• 56:31
  bought
• 56:31
  Verlander,
• 56:32
  I
• 56:32
  bought
• 56:32
  Scherzer,
• 56:33
  I
• 56:33
  bought
• 56:33
  all
• 56:33
  these
• 56:34
  guys.
• 56:34
  That
• 56:34
  didn't
• 56:34
  work.
• 56:35
  Let's
• 56:35
  just
• 56:36
  start
• 56:36
  bringing
• 56:36
  more
• 56:36
  gamblers
• 56:37
  to
• 56:37
  clean.
• 56:38
  That's
• 56:38
  how
• 56:38
  I
• 56:38
  think
• 56:38
  about
• 56:39
  it.
• 56:39
  You're
• 56:39
  right.
• 56:40
  I
• 56:40
  think
• 56:40
  it's
• 56:41
  naive
• 56:41
  to
• 56:41
  really
• 56:41
  think
• 56:42
  that
• 56:42
  this
• 56:42
  wasn't.
• 56:43
  I
• 56:43
  mean,
• 56:43
  again,
• 56:44
  he
• 56:45
  has
• 56:45
  brought
• 56:45
  the
• 56:45
  money
• 56:45
  and
• 56:46
  whatever
• 56:46
  else,
• 56:46
  but
• 56:46
  I
• 56:46
  think
• 56:46
  it's
• 56:47
  naive
• 56:47
  for
• 56:47
  anybody
• 56:48
  to
• 56:48
  think
• 56:48
  that
• 56:49
  buying
• 56:49
  this
• 56:49
  baseball
• 56:50
  team
• 56:50
  wasn't
• 56:50
  part
• 56:51
  of
• 56:51
  this
• 56:51
  bigger
• 56:51
  grand
• 56:52
  plan
• 56:52
  to
• 56:52
  make
• 56:53
  this
• 56:53
  Citi
• 56:53
  Field
• 56:54
  area,
• 56:55
  you
• 56:55
  know,
• 56:55
  into
• 56:55
  this
• 56:56
  major
• 56:56
  gambling
• 56:57
  casino
• 56:58
  hotspot.
• 56:59
  I
• 56:59
  mean,
• 56:59
  it's
• 57:00
  nicer
• 57:00
  than
• 57:01
  it
• 57:01
  has
• 57:02
  been,
• 57:02
  but
• 57:02
  it's.
• 57:03
  As
• 57:04
  a
• 57:04
  businessman,
• 57:04
  it
• 57:04
  was
• 57:04
  definitely
• 57:05
  part
• 57:05
  of
• 57:05
  his
• 57:05
  plan.
• 57:07
  No
• 57:07
  doubt
• 57:07
  about
• 57:07
  it.
• 57:08
  And
• 57:08
  he
• 57:08
  did
• 57:08
  it
• 57:08
  in
• 57:09
  such
• 57:09
  a
• 57:09
  way
• 57:10
  that
• 57:10
  no
• 57:10
  fan
• 57:11
  can
• 57:11
  really
• 57:12
  think
• 57:12
  about
• 57:12
  it
• 57:13
  long
• 57:13
  term.
• 57:14
  So,
• 57:15
  listen,
• 57:16
  our
• 57:16
  last
• 57:16
  owner
• 57:17
  was
• 57:18
  worse.
• 57:18
  He
• 57:18
  gave
• 57:19
  money
• 57:19
  to
• 57:19
  a
• 57:19
  criminal
• 57:20
  in
• 57:20
  a
• 57:20
  Ponzi
• 57:21
  scheme.
• 57:21
  So
• 57:21
  I
• 57:22
  can't
• 57:22
  really
• 57:22
  say
• 57:22
  he's
• 57:23
  any
• 57:23
  worse
• 57:24
  because
• 57:24
  it's
• 57:25
  almost
• 57:25
  impossible,
• 57:26
  you
• 57:26
  know,
• 57:26
  so,
• 57:27
  you
• 57:27
  know,
• 57:28
  like
• 57:28
  you
• 57:28
  know,
• 57:28
  signing
• 57:29
  Jason
• 57:29
  Bay
• 57:30
  and
• 57:30
  all
• 57:30
  these
• 57:30
  other
• 57:30
  guys
• 57:31
  that
• 57:31
  never
• 57:31
  panned
• 57:32
  out.
• 57:32
  But
• 57:33
  I
• 57:33
  mean,
• 57:34
  listen,
• 57:34
  I
• 57:34
  think
• 57:35
  his
• 57:36
  days
• 57:36
  is
• 57:37
  prioritizing
• 57:38
  the
• 57:38
  method,
• 57:38
  at
• 57:39
  least
• 57:39
  putting
• 57:39
  his,
• 57:40
  you
• 57:40
  know,
• 57:41
  headspun,
• 57:42
  billions
• 57:42
  of
• 57:42
  dollars
• 57:43
  he
• 57:43
  makes
• 57:43
  towards
• 57:44
  the
• 57:44
  franchise.
• 57:45
  I
• 57:45
  think
• 57:45
  those
• 57:45
  days
• 57:46
  are
• 57:46
  really
• 57:46
  over.
• 57:47
  And
• 57:48
  I
• 57:48
  think
• 57:48
  he's
• 57:48
  focused
• 57:49
  on
• 57:49
  his
• 57:49
  other
• 57:49
  endeavors.
• 57:50
  I
• 57:50
  mean,
• 57:51
  parking's
• 57:51
  $50.
• 57:52
  You
• 57:52
  can't
• 57:53
  even
• 57:53
  park
• 57:53
  anymore
• 57:54
  unless
• 57:54
  you
• 57:54
  have
• 57:54
  a
• 57:54
  parking
• 57:55
  path
• 57:55
  there.
• 57:56
  And,
• 57:56
  you
• 57:56
  know,
• 57:56
  I'm
• 57:56
  a
• 57:56
  seat
• 57:57
  to
• 57:57
  go.
• 57:57
  So
• 57:57
  you.
• 57:57
  I.
• 57:57
  I
• 57:58
  have
• 57:58
  a
• 57:58
  parking
• 57:58
  pass.
• 57:59
  I
• 57:59
  know
• 57:59
  I
• 57:59
  let
• 58:00
  Chris
• 58:00
  go
• 58:00
  to
• 58:00
  one
• 58:00
  game,
• 58:01
  gave
• 58:01
  him
• 58:01
  mine,
• 58:02
  but,
• 58:02
  you
• 58:02
  know,
• 58:03
  there's
• 58:03
  a
• 58:03
  huge
• 58:04
  thing
• 58:04
  in
• 58:04
  the
• 58:04
  middle.
• 58:04
  And
• 58:04
  I
• 58:05
  was
• 58:05
  talking
• 58:06
  to
• 58:06
  my
• 58:06
  cousin
• 58:07
  about
• 58:07
  this
• 58:07
  who,
• 58:07
  who
• 58:08
  loves
• 58:08
  going
• 58:08
  to
• 58:09
  games.
• 58:09
  He's
• 58:09
  like,
• 58:09
  you
• 58:10
  know,
• 58:10
  in
• 58:10
  the
• 58:10
  middle
• 58:10
  of
• 58:11
  the
• 58:11
  summer,
• 58:11
  right?
• 58:11
  If
• 58:12
  the
• 58:12
  Mets
• 58:12
  are
• 58:12
  out
• 58:13
  of
• 58:13
  it,
• 58:13
  at
• 58:13
  least,
• 58:14
  hey,
• 58:14
  you
• 58:14
  know,
• 58:14
  you
• 58:14
  could
• 58:15
  go
• 58:15
  to
• 58:15
  the
• 58:15
  parking
• 58:15
  lot
• 58:15
  for
• 58:16
  a
• 58:16
  one
• 58:16
  o'
• 58:16
  clock
• 58:17
  game.
• 58:17
  You
• 58:17
  could
• 58:18
  fire
• 58:18
  up
• 58:18
  the
• 58:19
  grill.
• 58:19
  You
• 58:19
  could
• 58:19
  have
• 58:19
  a
• 58:19
  couple
• 58:20
  drinks.
• 58:20
  Your
• 58:21
  kids
• 58:21
  could
• 58:21
  play
• 58:21
  Whippleball
• 58:22
  or
• 58:22
  something.
• 58:23
  Can't
• 58:23
  even
• 58:23
  do
• 58:23
  that.
• 58:24
  Not
• 58:24
  anymore.
• 58:24
  Something
• 58:25
  being
• 58:25
  built
• 58:26
  right
• 58:26
  in
• 58:26
  the
• 58:26
  middle
• 58:27
  cave
• 58:27
  and
• 58:27
  can't
• 58:28
  even
• 58:28
  have
• 58:28
  that
• 58:28
  fun
• 58:29
  anymore.
• 58:30
  AJ
• 58:30
  thanks
• 58:30
  for
• 58:30
  coming
• 58:31
  on.
• 58:31
  We
• 58:31
  gotta
• 58:31
  cut
• 58:31
  you
• 58:31
  off
• 58:32
  a
• 58:32
  couple
• 58:32
  weeks.
• 58:32
  We're
• 58:33
  gonna
• 58:33
  have
• 58:33
  you
• 58:33
  come
• 58:33
  on
• 58:33
  and
• 58:33
  talk
• 58:34
  Giants
• 58:34
  draft
• 58:34
  with
• 58:35
  us.
• 58:35
  So
• 58:35
  thanks
• 58:35
  again.
• 58:35
  We
• 58:36
  appreciate
• 58:36
  it.
• 58:37
  No
• 58:37
  problem,
• 58:38
  fellas.
• 58:38
  Thanks.
• 58:38
  I'm
• 58:39
  sorry
• 58:39
  if
• 58:39
  I
• 58:39
  talk.
• 58:40
  No,
• 58:40
  no
• 58:40
  worries.
• 58:41
  Thanks
• 58:41
  to
• 58:41
  AJ
• 58:41
  Rovener.
• 58:42
  Thanks
• 58:42
  to
• 58:42
  Bob
• 58:42
  Drano.
• 58:43
  You
• 58:43
  thank
• 58:43
  couple
• 58:44
  weeks,
• 58:44
  we'll
• 58:44
  be
• 58:44
  talking
• 58:44
  a
• 58:45
  lot
• 58:45
  football
• 58:45
  and
• 58:46
  some
• 58:46
  other
• 58:46
  things.
• 58:46
  And
• 58:46
  we'll
• 58:47
  see
• 58:47
  where
• 58:47
  the
• 58:47
  Knicks
• 58:47
  are.
• 58:47
  Thanks,
• 58:48
  everybody.
• 58:48
  Cap,
• 58:48
  thank
• 58:48
  you.
• 58:49
  And
• 58:49
  we'll
• 58:50
  see
• 58:50
  you
• 58:50
  in
• 58:50
  a
• 58:50
  few
• 58:50
  weeks.
• 58:50
  Thanks,
• 58:50
  Brian
• 58:51
  Graves
• 58:51
  too.
• 58:52
  The
• 58:53
  views
• 58:53
  expressed
• 58:53
  in
• 58:53
  the
• 58:53
  previous
• 58:54
  program
• 58:54
  did
• 58:55
  not
• 58:55
  necessarily
• 58:55
  represent
• 58:56
  those
• 58:56
  of
• 58:56
  the
• 58:56
  staff,
• 58:57
  management
• 58:57
  or
• 58:58
  owners
• 58:58
  of
• 58:58
  wgbb.