Latest / The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast / S4 #3 Wrestling with Bumper Cars
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
- 0:03Speaker 1: with our radio. Yo yo yo, I'm then, I'm Ashley,
- 0:09Speaker 1: and I'm back. I heard Nick did a great job
- 0:12Speaker 1: filling in last week. I have not listened yet, but
- 0:15Speaker 1: he did a great job. But we missed you a ton,
- 0:17Speaker 1: and I'm very happy that you're back. Not only will
- 0:20Speaker 1: you get a lot better recap than Nick and I did.
- 0:25Speaker 1: But hey, I just don't to let me know. I
- 0:27Speaker 1: am in Beaver Creek, Colorado right now. I took the
- 0:32Speaker 1: day um to ski a little bit. So if anybody's
- 0:35Speaker 1: wondering where I'm at, or if anybody comes into yell
- 0:38Speaker 1: to tell me to get out of the lobby, Um,
- 0:41Speaker 1: why are you a skier? His skiing ability is good.
- 0:45Speaker 1: I can say that I've seen that confident skier. Yeah,
- 0:48Speaker 1: we see that on Winter Games. Yeah. So um, anyways, hey,
- 0:54Speaker 1: let's move in. I know this week was the crazy episode. Actually, uh,
- 0:57Speaker 1: like always, you are the expert. Please give us your
- 1:00Speaker 1: run down. Okay, So our first day is a group day.
- 1:03Speaker 1: It's a wrestling day. I think it may have been
- 1:05Speaker 1: the worst day ever, or at least the worst day
- 1:08Speaker 1: the date that I would least ever want to be
- 1:10Speaker 1: on um, I would have had completely good yes, because Bibby,
- 1:16Speaker 1: you know, you call her no chill Bibby or whatever,
- 1:18Speaker 1: even though we all know that I love Babby. She
- 1:21Speaker 1: she was like the only one who was like, this
- 1:23Speaker 1: is bull Oh I can't say, you know what I mean?
- 1:26Speaker 1: And then like we had those evil wrestler ladies divas
- 1:30Speaker 1: from the eighties and everybody was like the two ladies
- 1:34Speaker 1: were expecting the girls to know who they are and
- 1:37Speaker 1: they were just given. They were so kindcending. She made
- 1:41Speaker 1: fun of Bibby's name, like what She's like, what did
- 1:44Speaker 1: your mom? What was she thinking calling you Bibby on us?
- 1:47Speaker 1: She's like, what kind of name is that? Ben? Did
- 1:49Speaker 1: you find the wrestling sexy or goofy uh? You know,
- 1:55Speaker 1: I don't think it I could call it sexy. I
- 1:58Speaker 1: think it was weird. I think the whole thing is weird.
- 2:01Speaker 1: I think actually is right. I mean, it's kind of
- 2:02Speaker 1: goes back to when I was in the Battoort. We
- 2:04Speaker 1: did a a boxing day, and any time on this
- 2:07Speaker 1: show that you force aggression out of anybody, there's already
- 2:10Speaker 1: so much built up anger in general that it just
- 2:14Speaker 1: gets awkward fast. And I guess maybe that's what the
- 2:16Speaker 1: show wants. Oh yeah, And I think that they continuously
- 2:19Speaker 1: put Bibby in these situations where, you know, we know
- 2:22Speaker 1: that she can't She's like the emotional one who can't
- 2:26Speaker 1: deal with BS, and they keep testing her and you
- 2:28Speaker 1: can really see that in this wrestling portion of the
- 2:32Speaker 1: to bring out her no chill. Yeah, absolutely, they know
- 2:34Speaker 1: exactly how the Yeah do you think Bibiana is in
- 2:39Speaker 1: the wrong during the from the first three episodes leading
- 2:43Speaker 1: up until obviously this one, has she been in the
- 2:45Speaker 1: wrong or do you find that you're agreeing with a
- 2:47Speaker 1: lot of her attitude? What do you mean? I agree
- 2:49Speaker 1: with everything she's done? Okay, I was gonna say I
- 2:53Speaker 1: do as well. And I think she's just seeing through
- 2:57Speaker 1: the craziness that is the show. Oh absolutely. She and
- 3:00Speaker 1: I are so similar in the way that if she
- 3:02Speaker 1: sees BS, she needs to call it out like she
- 3:04Speaker 1: cannot help herself. You know. Yeah, I think she does
- 3:10Speaker 1: it a little bit more more than me, and but
- 3:14Speaker 1: I yes, I think that is spot on. I think
- 3:16Speaker 1: when she sees something that she doesn't appreciate or when
- 3:19Speaker 1: she doesn't agree with, she has to speak up. And
- 3:21Speaker 1: I think that's why we love her, and that's why,
- 3:24Speaker 1: in my opinion, she is such a good person to
- 3:26Speaker 1: have on the show because she is relaying what a
- 3:29Speaker 1: lot of people feel that our contestans on the show,
- 3:32Speaker 1: but a lot of people don't have the courage to
- 3:34Speaker 1: say anything. Oh yeah, and she's able to articulate her
- 3:36Speaker 1: feelings really well. She's a little aggressive for me, you think, so,
- 3:41Speaker 1: she's a little tad. So this is the difference between
- 3:44Speaker 1: me and Bibbie is that I think we both have
- 3:46Speaker 1: that need to express how we feel and like the
- 3:50Speaker 1: wrongness of a situation. But I do it like emotionally,
- 3:53Speaker 1: in like a sensitive crying way, and she doesn't in
- 3:56Speaker 1: a really feisty way, a little bit of a chip
- 3:58Speaker 1: on her shoulder. Yeah, I feel like she's never been
- 4:00Speaker 1: rejected until last night. I don't know I got that,
- 4:03Speaker 1: Like really, Okay, let's move on from Bibby for a second. So,
- 4:08Speaker 1: of course, Chris Harrison says, we have a surprise. There's
- 4:11Speaker 1: so many surprises this season. And then Kenny from Rachel
- 4:15Speaker 1: season comes on and he wrestles Ari, and we all
- 4:19Speaker 1: know that they had to of course manipulate the situation
- 4:23Speaker 1: to make it that Ari somehow be the professional wrestler here,
- 4:28Speaker 1: um Ari just so out of his element? You guys,
- 4:31Speaker 1: are you know what's funny? Though? He is this this
- 4:34Speaker 1: whole thing, he's being out of his element. He then, So,
- 4:37Speaker 1: I have had so many girls come up to me
- 4:40Speaker 1: and say they love Ari. Yes, have you guys been
- 4:43Speaker 1: experiencing that? No, that's so weird. I haven't. Who like, what? Like?
- 4:50Speaker 1: What kind of a girl like Amy? Are you talking
- 4:52Speaker 1: like women who are a little older? Bens right on
- 4:58Speaker 1: point with that. They're all forty or older? Okay, yes,
- 5:01Speaker 1: So my mom has one of our family friends over
- 5:03Speaker 1: to watch the episode every week, and she's she didn't
- 5:06Speaker 1: even watch Emily season, but she's like, oh, I love Ari.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Ari's my man, like all this weird stuff. And then
- 5:11Speaker 1: when I walked into Access Hollywood after the first episode,
- 5:14Speaker 1: Kid Hoover and Natalie Morales we're like, oh, we like Ari,
- 5:18Speaker 1: And I'm like, what, Well, it must be because I
- 5:21Speaker 1: have no problem saying I'm forty three. So I think
- 5:24Speaker 1: it's because we've been watching Ben. Who's are you twenty eight? Now? Ben? Yeah,
- 5:31Speaker 1: you're a lot younger than us. So I think the
- 5:33Speaker 1: older ladies that's funny, older than him. I got some
- 5:43Speaker 1: gray hair, a little baby's face bend. But I don't
- 5:48Speaker 1: understand Nikki is older than than Ari by a year.
- 5:52Speaker 1: But let's do a poll. Let's have people email us
- 5:54Speaker 1: this week if they're older the older forty plus group
- 6:00Speaker 1: guys are still young. I really, you know forty is
- 6:03Speaker 1: very useful these days. Anyway, here's the other thing I want. Okay,
- 6:07Speaker 1: so please email us with um if you're older and
- 6:10Speaker 1: you love Ari. But also I want to hear just
- 6:14Speaker 1: your thoughts on our general We haven't. I've gotten a
- 6:17Speaker 1: ton of emails on Hey, this is my feelings towards
- 6:19Speaker 1: this season of the Bachelor, so I want to hear that.
- 6:22Speaker 1: I want to read that because I'm just I mean,
- 6:24Speaker 1: before I actually continues here and break down this episode,
- 6:26Speaker 1: I'm still a little confused because I feel very distant.
- 6:30Speaker 1: I'm not into it as much as I want. So
- 6:32Speaker 1: please email that's been an athlete. I heart media dot
- 6:35Speaker 1: com uh to just let us know what you think,
- 6:39Speaker 1: so actually keep going. Okay, so I don't feel distant anymore.
- 6:41Speaker 1: I like the past two episodes. Episodes two and three
- 6:44Speaker 1: really warm me up because the girls are really carrying
- 6:47Speaker 1: this show, and that's cool. I think it's always about
- 6:50Speaker 1: the women. But I don't think I'm ever going to
- 6:52Speaker 1: warm up to Ari in the sense that I'm going
- 6:54Speaker 1: to be super invested in rooting for him. I think
- 6:57Speaker 1: it's really I think it's interesting because a lot of
- 7:00Speaker 1: people I have heard from Ben are like, why are
- 7:03Speaker 1: Ben and Ashley like poo pooing on Ari all the time?
- 7:07Speaker 1: Like why don't they get it? And I'm like, hmm,
- 7:08Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't get it. So I
- 7:11Speaker 1: have hard feedback. Well, I mean, I don't want to
- 7:14Speaker 1: say pop I think he's hate that express No, I
- 7:18Speaker 1: mean for who he is. I mean for what he's doing.
- 7:20Speaker 1: I think he's doing a fine Jeff. I think the
- 7:21Speaker 1: women are obviously carring this show. I just think that
- 7:24Speaker 1: there is this level that I and I don't know
- 7:26Speaker 1: what it is. He isn't as comfortable, or he maybe
- 7:29Speaker 1: isn't as confident as we would expect about to be. Now,
- 7:33Speaker 1: I wouldn't consider myself a very confident person, um, but
- 7:37Speaker 1: I think some of his conversations just feel like he
- 7:41Speaker 1: he's so distant, like he he isn't actually engaged in
- 7:43Speaker 1: the conversation. He's kind of just it feels like forcing
- 7:47Speaker 1: it to get through a Oh my gosh, man, I
- 7:49Speaker 1: cannot believe you said that, because I have my notes
- 7:51Speaker 1: here and this is what I wrote verbatim. He doesn't
- 7:54Speaker 1: seem super warmer, comforting. He seems to go to these
- 7:57Speaker 1: women and chat with them out of obligation. I find
- 8:03Speaker 1: if he's into you, he's into you that's true maybe,
- 8:07Speaker 1: or a no you out out like I've never seen
- 8:10Speaker 1: a Bachelor show so so much disinterest in somebody. If
- 8:15Speaker 1: he's like sitting, well, we have a guest later that
- 8:17Speaker 1: we can talk to analysis here, and he's got eliminated.
- 8:20Speaker 1: On last night's episode, she was She had some very
- 8:22Speaker 1: awkward moments. We won't sugarcoat that, but she'll definitely talk
- 8:25Speaker 1: about firsthand how already deals with girls that he's not
- 8:29Speaker 1: necessarily feeling. Did anybody else think that Lauren s was
- 8:32Speaker 1: out from the second she got out of that limo?
- 8:34Speaker 1: It was very the second she got out of the
- 8:36Speaker 1: limo limo from the show on her date. There was
- 8:40Speaker 1: something about even the first thirty seconds of that date
- 8:44Speaker 1: where there was there's a looming cloud where you just
- 8:47Speaker 1: knew that they that they were gonna not end up
- 8:51Speaker 1: together in this I don't know well before we jumped
- 8:54Speaker 1: so far forward actually continue to break down the episode.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Let's let's just give another couple of minutes here. Yeah, sorry.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Um So, first off, don't really understand how this boxing
- 9:04Speaker 1: or wrestling date works. It seems to be a theme
- 9:07Speaker 1: of this season, like last week the race car driving
- 9:10Speaker 1: day or wasn't like the demolition derby. I don't get it,
- 9:13Speaker 1: Like what was the point of that was? How did
- 9:16Speaker 1: you determine a winner? And I don't know how you
- 9:18Speaker 1: determine a winner here in this wrestling date? But anyway,
- 9:21Speaker 1: who wins? Um does? Oh? Tia wins the Southern Bell.
- 9:29Speaker 1: She was dressed as a Southern bell and she she
- 9:31Speaker 1: quite honestly is a Southern bell. She friends with them. Yes,
- 9:36Speaker 1: So then Crystal continues to be annoying. Crystal is just
- 9:40Speaker 1: so annoying And I don't really know how to pinpoint
- 9:43Speaker 1: and describe it beyond just her voice. And it's it's
- 9:46Speaker 1: more like the fact that everything she says to Ari
- 9:49Speaker 1: looks like he's just said the most fascinating, earth shaking thing.
- 9:54Speaker 1: And I'm like, he just said, hey, han, how's your
- 9:57Speaker 1: day going? And She's like, oh my god, And and
- 10:00Speaker 1: it's some amazing, and it's just I don't know, it's
- 10:04Speaker 1: very she's just very, very annoying. We'll again talk to
- 10:06Speaker 1: Annelie's about how Crystal is in real life, and then
- 10:11Speaker 1: we have the you know, the one on one with
- 10:13Speaker 1: Lauren s where one of the ones are so awkward.
- 10:16Speaker 1: Ben talk about how one on ones can be awkward
- 10:19Speaker 1: at the beginning of a season, even if you do
- 10:21Speaker 1: have chemistry with somebody, because it's so silent and then
- 10:24Speaker 1: you have like fifteen eyeballs just watching your every word. Yeah,
- 10:29Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's there is so at the
- 10:32Speaker 1: beginning of the season, you ask these women to go
- 10:34Speaker 1: on these special dates and and the one on ones
- 10:36Speaker 1: are meant to just really I mean, it is a
- 10:39Speaker 1: time one of the most important times of the show
- 10:41Speaker 1: because you can't really even know somebody. You have eight
- 10:44Speaker 1: hours to spend with somebody, which is all day long.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Not only do you do an activity, but you also
- 10:49Speaker 1: have at dinner. Um, they're really great, but if the
- 10:52Speaker 1: one on one isn't going well, which I did experience,
- 10:56Speaker 1: then you have eight hours of really a lot of
- 10:58Speaker 1: awkwardness and there's really no ready to help, right, I mean,
- 11:02Speaker 1: on television is really funny to watch. And so not
- 11:06Speaker 1: only do you have cameras and people standing around, you know,
- 11:09Speaker 1: recording your date, but then also those same people aren't
- 11:13Speaker 1: really helping you out to make anything less awkward. So
- 11:17Speaker 1: just imagine being put in a room that you can't leave.
- 11:20Speaker 1: You feel like you just get up and leave this
- 11:22Speaker 1: day that you can't leave for eight hours or something
- 11:24Speaker 1: that you're not that into. It's rough and this was
- 11:28Speaker 1: rough when Yeah, when you go on a regular date
- 11:31Speaker 1: in real life, you have sound around you, people talking
- 11:34Speaker 1: at a restaurant, you have music in the background. Just
- 11:38Speaker 1: imagine the most silent room you could you can and
- 11:41Speaker 1: then sit down with somebody that you've known for very
- 11:44Speaker 1: little time and just have a forced conversation about the
- 11:48Speaker 1: deepest stuff you know, not about like what's your favorite movie.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Then do you fully get to pick the one on
- 11:52Speaker 1: ones or did the producers sort of suggest or guide?
- 11:56Speaker 1: I'm not you know how much of that is up
- 11:58Speaker 1: to the bachelor. Yeah, yeah, definitely, I mean most all
- 12:02Speaker 1: of it, I guess. I mean there is like some
- 12:05Speaker 1: strategic and who you're choosing and when you're choosing him.
- 12:07Speaker 1: So like, for example, uh, if I were to take
- 12:11Speaker 1: somebody on a one on one week one. I would
- 12:14Speaker 1: have to think in my head, now, this probably means
- 12:16Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna be able to take them on
- 12:18Speaker 1: another one on one date for another four weeks. Do
- 12:21Speaker 1: I really want to wait that long to see them
- 12:23Speaker 1: again on a one on setting? Or do I want
- 12:25Speaker 1: to maybe wait and take them on a one on
- 12:27Speaker 1: next week so I could take you know, because then
- 12:28Speaker 1: I know week five and we'll only have four people left,
- 12:31Speaker 1: and at four people, I'm gonna see everybody every all
- 12:33Speaker 1: the time. Um, and the producers will help you with that.
- 12:37Speaker 1: I mean, that's just kind of like thinking through how
- 12:38Speaker 1: does the show work? But for the most part, yeah,
- 12:41Speaker 1: you get to pick and uh. And you also, you know,
- 12:45Speaker 1: I don't want to I want to all to remember
- 12:47Speaker 1: too and all the fans out there. Sometimes you bring
- 12:49Speaker 1: somebody on a one on one because you're pretty confident
- 12:51Speaker 1: they aren't the person for you, but you but you
- 12:54Speaker 1: aren't quite sure yet, but you know that at the
- 12:56Speaker 1: end of that date you do have the option to
- 12:58Speaker 1: send them a home, and so you're not just keep
- 13:01Speaker 1: asking people to go on one once because you are
- 13:03Speaker 1: so into them. Sometimes asking it because you want to
- 13:06Speaker 1: take goodbye to him earlier yeah, that's true. Um, I
- 13:10Speaker 1: had a lot of empathy on with Lauren on this
- 13:12Speaker 1: day because she's a nervous talker. So instead of, you know,
- 13:16Speaker 1: being shy, she just kind of said anything that came
- 13:19Speaker 1: to her mind, which is what I do in those situations.
- 13:21Speaker 1: I'm I go I'm just gonna keep rambling, and he
- 13:24Speaker 1: didn't make things anymore comfortable with for her. Again, this
- 13:28Speaker 1: is like, I feel like alays biggest flaw as a bachelor.
- 13:31Speaker 1: He's seeing her nervous talking and yet he's kind of
- 13:35Speaker 1: like judging her for it. And then she goes, I'm
- 13:38Speaker 1: so nervous. I'm so nervous. Um, I just want to
- 13:41Speaker 1: be myself with you. And then instead of being like, okay,
- 13:44Speaker 1: let's calm down, like what's it, what's a different way
- 13:47Speaker 1: where we can get you to calm down and be yourself,
- 13:49Speaker 1: he goes, well, like, I'm really sorry that you don't
- 13:52Speaker 1: feel comfortable with me, so I think you should go home.
- 13:56Speaker 1: But I guess that being set Yeah, really about that
- 14:00Speaker 1: being said, if you aren't comfortable with somebody and it
- 14:03Speaker 1: doesn't feel natural and you are nervous talking for so long,
- 14:06Speaker 1: then you're probably just not meant to be that person
- 14:08Speaker 1: you don't have any natural chemistry maybe but but maybe
- 14:12Speaker 1: I mean, is an intimidating figure I would in person.
- 14:17Speaker 1: So he's a bachelor, good looking, you know, these women
- 14:20Speaker 1: have been talking about them all the time. She gets
- 14:22Speaker 1: the one opportunity to be with him, and she just
- 14:23Speaker 1: might get nervous. I get that. That's totally understandable. She
- 14:27Speaker 1: might just need a couple of hours to watch up
- 14:30Speaker 1: or And I don't know if he did this or not,
- 14:32Speaker 1: I cannot say, but I do know that one of
- 14:34Speaker 1: the most important roles at that and I've talked to
- 14:36Speaker 1: Nick about this, is to settle down nerves and set
- 14:40Speaker 1: down emotions to help the person feel but to help
- 14:44Speaker 1: the person on the date with or on you know,
- 14:46Speaker 1: a group date with, feel as comfortable and at ease
- 14:50Speaker 1: as possible. Because the truth is this, none of the
- 14:52Speaker 1: bachelors or the bach threat are any better than any
- 14:55Speaker 1: of the contestants. They're no different. They just have a title.
- 14:58Speaker 1: And so I think one of the most important roles
- 15:02Speaker 1: as the lead on this show is to try to
- 15:04Speaker 1: find any way to make everybody comfortable. And when you
- 15:07Speaker 1: see somebody isn't comfortable, you need to approach that because
- 15:10Speaker 1: you are leading the show, and I do need to
- 15:12Speaker 1: say one more thing. I feel bad that I said
- 15:15Speaker 1: that about Lauren, because I'm the girl who on this
- 15:17Speaker 1: show has claimed so many times I just need to
- 15:19Speaker 1: have more time with him, because like, I just need
- 15:21Speaker 1: him to be able to see my real self, and
- 15:22Speaker 1: I think it takes a while for me to come
- 15:24Speaker 1: on my shell with a guy that I like. So
- 15:26Speaker 1: I would love to Lauren, not love, that's the wrong word.
- 15:29Speaker 1: But I'm so curious if she has total regrets because
- 15:33Speaker 1: she wasn't herself and she kept saying, I'm not myself,
- 15:35Speaker 1: I'm not myself, I'm not myself, and then he breaks
- 15:37Speaker 1: up with her. All you can do is go. But
- 15:39Speaker 1: if I was myself, I wonder if he would have
- 15:41Speaker 1: liked me. Sometimes it's just that's how it goes. And
- 15:44Speaker 1: that's why I need a lot of time. I couldn't
- 15:46Speaker 1: have my future with somebody determined on one day. I
- 15:49Speaker 1: don't think if I, if I, that's not that's not
- 15:53Speaker 1: a good idea is to determine your future from one Actually,
- 15:58Speaker 1: that's that's a good pool. That is true, right, It's
- 16:04Speaker 1: so funny. I feel like just this whole Bachelor process
- 16:07Speaker 1: hasn't made me feel like I need to make decision
- 16:09Speaker 1: making in my romantic life so quickly you're like, oh,
- 16:13Speaker 1: you don't know something after like two dates. That's so
- 16:17Speaker 1: not normal. You should be saying I love you on
- 16:19Speaker 1: the third day. Does it ever warp your sense of
- 16:22Speaker 1: time with romance? Ben, I don't know, ash uh No,
- 16:28Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it's maybe slowed down
- 16:31Speaker 1: my sense of timing or romance. I think for me now,
- 16:34Speaker 1: when I when I go on dates or when I'm
- 16:36Speaker 1: speaking to somebody, I want to take it a lot
- 16:38Speaker 1: slower because I've now sees the issues when you don't
- 16:42Speaker 1: really kind of work through some of the big questions
- 16:45Speaker 1: that you have in life. So for me, it's kind
- 16:47Speaker 1: of done the opposite where I've taken a big step
- 16:49Speaker 1: back and I said, let's slow everything down. Interesting. That's
- 16:53Speaker 1: so interesting because now I feel like, on a second day,
- 16:55Speaker 1: I should be like, is this a guy that I
- 16:57Speaker 1: could marry? Because that's how we're wired to think. Oh
- 17:00Speaker 1: my gosh, it's nuts. These girls are all telling him
- 17:02Speaker 1: they have feelings for him, and all that I'm thinking
- 17:05Speaker 1: is like, I think you just met him, I know yesterday. Yeah,
- 17:10Speaker 1: it's really the two of you over there in Los Angeles.
- 17:15Speaker 1: I don't I want to say this because I love
- 17:18Speaker 1: you both, but I know that two of you you
- 17:21Speaker 1: don't get head over heels very quickly as well. So
- 17:24Speaker 1: I mean, actually, I have a feeling you did this
- 17:26Speaker 1: even before the show. Amy, you haven't even been on
- 17:29Speaker 1: the show, and you do that. Okay, I'm just marriage focused,
- 17:32Speaker 1: you know. I've never understood dating for dating, even as
- 17:36Speaker 1: I do like to say, I know within the first
- 17:38Speaker 1: five minutes if it's happening or not, if there's like
- 17:41Speaker 1: natural chemistry and attraction, that attractions determined in five minutes,
- 17:46Speaker 1: not a cousin you're ripping on these bird feelings for
- 17:51Speaker 1: him in three, two or three weeks and you just
- 17:54Speaker 1: said out loud that you know in five minutes. But
- 17:57Speaker 1: I bury it down, Ben, I bury it down deep,
- 18:00Speaker 1: and I don't tell the person. Oh my gosh. Amy
- 18:03Speaker 1: has has really realized today that she is broken in
- 18:07Speaker 1: many ways. She's just she's just having a day. I
- 18:09Speaker 1: came in today in tears and said to Ashley and
- 18:11Speaker 1: Annelie's I'm so damaged, like we're all damaged. I mean, Ben,
- 18:16Speaker 1: don't you think you're damaged? Oh? Yeah, Ben's definitely damaged.
- 18:20Speaker 1: I can vouch for this one. Okay, March Like, people
- 18:23Speaker 1: damage us and then the next poor person hays the
- 18:28Speaker 1: price that's for the damage from the person before. Yeah,
- 18:31Speaker 1: but it's all about growing and you are and that
- 18:35Speaker 1: person that you're with is too. I know it's true. Alright,
- 18:38Speaker 1: let's go back to some fun stuff. Kenny Kenny, We
- 18:42Speaker 1: have Kenny King on the line right now. We want
- 18:44Speaker 1: to talk about the authenticity of him actually losing to
- 18:49Speaker 1: Little Ari. Yeah. Hey, Kenny was from Rachel's season of
- 18:54Speaker 1: The Bachelrette. He also made a really great appearance on
- 18:57Speaker 1: this week's UH Bachelor's Kenny, Welcome to the Almost Famous podcast,
- 19:02Speaker 1: Kenny Kenny kidding, Hey, why weren't you on The Bachelor
- 19:05Speaker 1: Winner Games? I totally felt like you were fit for that.
- 19:08Speaker 1: I definitely was supposed to be. But I had a
- 19:11Speaker 1: last pay per view of the year for the wresting
- 19:13Speaker 1: company that I worked for was in New York City
- 19:15Speaker 1: on UH, so that it was an unskippable thing for me,
- 19:20Speaker 1: and I thought that that was gonna be okay, And
- 19:22Speaker 1: initially the talks were they that's gonna be fine. You
- 19:25Speaker 1: just fly from Vermont, New York and in the back,
- 19:27Speaker 1: but it didn't work. So, hey, I was watching television,
- 19:32Speaker 1: um last night Kenny or no last week? Sorry, and
- 19:36Speaker 1: I didn't realize that you are a professional like wrestler
- 19:40Speaker 1: like on WWE. Is this a new thing that this
- 19:42Speaker 1: happened after the show or have you always been on WW? No,
- 19:45Speaker 1: I don't rest for w wrest for company? Was what
- 19:48Speaker 1: was it that I was watching? Then? Probably? Probably? Uh,
- 19:53Speaker 1: there was. I started on w W. I was trained
- 19:55Speaker 1: on Tough Enough. It was a show on MTV a
- 19:58Speaker 1: couple of years ago where it's basically like the Ultimate
- 20:01Speaker 1: Fighters now where they trained They took eight men five
- 20:03Speaker 1: women and they trained become pro wrestler's basically like an
- 20:06Speaker 1: athlete challenge. That's how I started. That's under the w
- 20:10Speaker 1: AV brand. But what I was what I do currently is, uh,
- 20:13Speaker 1: it's a company called Ring of On Orrecting. We're on
- 20:15Speaker 1: all the Sinclair broadcast networks. That makes sense. So obviously
- 20:21Speaker 1: you're using your skills for the shill last night. Actually,
- 20:25Speaker 1: I know you have a ton of questions for Kenny
- 20:27Speaker 1: about the authenticity. To take it away, Kenny, they made
- 20:31Speaker 1: you lose to Ri right, Uh, what I mean, what
- 20:35Speaker 1: do you think yes, yes, realness here on the Almost
- 20:40Speaker 1: fame as podcast. What do you think that? All right?
- 20:43Speaker 1: All right, well does already have they say they say,
- 20:47Speaker 1: you don't you know, you don't go into a person's
- 20:50Speaker 1: home and uh and uh and beat them up. So
- 20:53Speaker 1: you know, I was a guest. I was a guest
- 20:55Speaker 1: on on the RI show, so you know I was.
- 20:58Speaker 1: I was a gracious guest. That's funny, you were does
- 21:00Speaker 1: already have any natural skill? You know? Ari is uh,
- 21:05Speaker 1: he's he's surprisingly big. Uh and we you know he
- 21:09Speaker 1: took to it pretty fast. Okay, so I will give
- 21:13Speaker 1: are uh some credit and that you know he was
- 21:16Speaker 1: he wasn't you know two left feed he has some
- 21:18Speaker 1: athletic ability. He uh, you know he was not completely
- 21:21Speaker 1: lost in there. So prop sorry, How did you feel
- 21:24Speaker 1: about that as a date? Did you find the girls
- 21:27Speaker 1: super sexy while they're wrestling? Did you feel like it
- 21:29Speaker 1: was kind of pointless and showing nothing about them as people? Uh? Well,
- 21:35Speaker 1: I definitely like their costumes, but they were absolutely terrible wrestless.
- 21:42Speaker 1: If if it was a date where I mean they
- 21:45Speaker 1: got you know, I was in the basterwere like, hey,
- 21:47Speaker 1: you know, the best wrestler you have to you know,
- 21:49Speaker 1: you have to give roses too, because they would have
- 21:50Speaker 1: all went home. They were pretty bad. But outstarted that,
- 21:55Speaker 1: you know, it was it was good to see you know,
- 21:57Speaker 1: the girls come out of the shows and and you know,
- 21:59Speaker 1: turn into something and and just kind of you know,
- 22:03Speaker 1: just just go with it and and go with the
- 22:05Speaker 1: flow and just kind of go out of their own
- 22:07Speaker 1: comfort zone. Frari. So uh, that's that's I think that
- 22:10Speaker 1: maybe would be the biggest takeaway from it. Those women
- 22:14Speaker 1: wrestlers from the eighties, they were really scary and mean.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Is that the norm? That's the norm and your profession,
- 22:20Speaker 1: isn't it? Well, that's when you're when you're as they
- 22:23Speaker 1: call it in my professional green woman. Uh, you you
- 22:26Speaker 1: know that that's kind of how it's supposed to be. Uh.
- 22:28Speaker 1: They want to weed out the people that aren't you know,
- 22:30Speaker 1: they want to do it on the weekends and the
- 22:32Speaker 1: people that aren't uh you know, aren't really into it.
- 22:35Speaker 1: So you know, not so much now. The business to
- 22:37Speaker 1: change now, But even when I was getting into it,
- 22:39Speaker 1: and definitely I'm sure and those ladies that into it,
- 22:41Speaker 1: your training is the beature has pretty bad and no jokes,
- 22:44Speaker 1: were those ladies legit oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 22:48Speaker 1: Those are legit uh glow ladies from the eighties, and
- 22:51Speaker 1: uh you know we were kind of in the back
- 22:53Speaker 1: and they were looking at me like, well, what do
- 22:55Speaker 1: you think we should do with these girls? We don't
- 22:57Speaker 1: have the time to train them. And I was like,
- 22:58Speaker 1: let's let's just keep it simple, you know, because even
- 23:02Speaker 1: it's even it's fun and and and they tried to
- 23:06Speaker 1: kind of make it lighthearted. Pro wrestling is very very
- 23:08Speaker 1: dangerous still, so uh, you know, you wanted to do
- 23:11Speaker 1: make these girls do stuff and learn things that you know,
- 23:14Speaker 1: even if they do it terribly, that nobody gets hurt.
- 23:18Speaker 1: They were better wrestlers than with those dogs disaster. Another
- 23:22Speaker 1: date where I didn't really know the point. Hey Kenny,
- 23:25Speaker 1: did you get it? Get a chance to chat with Ari? Yeah? Yeah,
- 23:29Speaker 1: Ari and I chat uh for for a little bit.
- 23:32Speaker 1: I had to kind of teach him a little bit
- 23:34Speaker 1: of things. So you know, I was a really cool guy.
- 23:36Speaker 1: Uh you know that everybody was. I know, everybody was
- 23:39Speaker 1: all upset about its not being Peter, but are's cool?
- 23:42Speaker 1: Are there for? You know? Or as as as the
- 23:46Speaker 1: Rose boys say, he's there for the right reasons? Uh? So,
- 23:49Speaker 1: uh you know it was. It was really cool to
- 23:51Speaker 1: get a chance like this, just talk to him and
- 23:53Speaker 1: get to talk to him man and man instead of
- 23:55Speaker 1: this kind of you know that we threw all the
- 23:57Speaker 1: whatever it is. I mean, I want to clear up
- 24:00Speaker 1: to um explained to me because I really don't know.
- 24:03Speaker 1: And I grew up watching wrestling. Now, even though you
- 24:06Speaker 1: can say, you know, Ari beat you during the show,
- 24:09Speaker 1: it wouldn't be clearly abnormal in wrestling, because it's it's
- 24:14Speaker 1: an entertainment sport for that to happen on television as well, right,
- 24:19Speaker 1: that that whole thing kind of plays out or is
- 24:21Speaker 1: it up at the skill level of the individual wrestler
- 24:23Speaker 1: who wins. Well, well, it's it's that is the way
- 24:27Speaker 1: that it happened would be the way that you would
- 24:30Speaker 1: see it on television. Uh. You know, you've got a
- 24:32Speaker 1: guy who's obviously way more experienced than the other guy,
- 24:35Speaker 1: and uh, you know, as it as it as it was,
- 24:38Speaker 1: you know, I'm basically taking advantage of him and kind
- 24:41Speaker 1: of overlooking him. And when I got streckted by the girls,
- 24:43Speaker 1: you know, he got one up on me. That is
- 24:48Speaker 1: a very viable I mean that hell, that happens in
- 24:51Speaker 1: real life. You know, he checked by the girl and
- 24:52Speaker 1: then boom before you know what you lose. So that's
- 24:57Speaker 1: the kind of uh you know that I try to
- 25:00Speaker 1: make it as plausible as possible where it's not like
- 25:03Speaker 1: Ari would be, you know, beating me, because that's not
- 25:06Speaker 1: really what would happen, you realize. Did you have a
- 25:09Speaker 1: favorite of those girls, Kenny? Yeah, I didn't know their
- 25:14Speaker 1: names up until obviously, uh the show came out, but
- 25:18Speaker 1: I liked, uh the kitty Cat was Becca, I think,
- 25:21Speaker 1: and Mickel were my two favorites. Pretty girl. That was
- 25:27Speaker 1: just purely uh using my eyes. All right, pretty, Before
- 25:33Speaker 1: we let you go here, I want to hear and
- 25:35Speaker 1: please feel free to talk about anything. Um. Our listeners
- 25:38Speaker 1: are huge, obviously Bachelor fans, and they like to keep
- 25:41Speaker 1: the follow up with any of the past contestants. So
- 25:43Speaker 1: can you give our listeners a quick rundown of what
- 25:45Speaker 1: your life is like today, any exciting things going on?
- 25:48Speaker 1: Anything you'd like tell them? Well? Actually, um, since that's
- 25:53Speaker 1: Kenzie is sitting right next to me, she did away
- 25:55Speaker 1: dying to say to uh to MLK parade right now,
- 25:59Speaker 1: So hold on once, yeah, Kenzie, Hi, Ben I actually
- 26:03Speaker 1: he I'm such a fan of yours. You are the sweetest, prettiest,
- 26:09Speaker 1: most articulate girl. For your rage, I'm so impressed by you.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. So what we're doing,
- 26:19Speaker 1: so that's uh, that's basically what I'm doing. I'm still
- 26:22Speaker 1: with wrestling. Ring of Vanna Wrestling coming to town near you.
- 26:25Speaker 1: We start our our two thousand eighteen tour this Friday
- 26:29Speaker 1: in Nashville actually for television tapings, and the next we
- 26:33Speaker 1: after that we go to Charlotte and then Atlanta. So
- 26:36Speaker 1: are we wrestling dot com is where you can find
- 26:39Speaker 1: all of my wrestling exploits. But Kenzie and I are
- 26:43Speaker 1: going to be starting a video series, uh this year
- 26:47Speaker 1: where we document our exploit I guess as we're kind
- 26:52Speaker 1: of as we called the Kenny and Kenzie Show, which
- 26:56Speaker 1: is pushing pretty Kensie and KENI shows so cute. I
- 26:59Speaker 1: can't way to watch that. I can watch you to
- 27:01Speaker 1: interact forever. I think those moments on your season The
- 27:04Speaker 1: Bachelor were the greatest there were. Um, we have to ask,
- 27:08Speaker 1: is there anyone any other lady besides Mackenzie in your life? No,
- 27:13Speaker 1: there isn't. It's uh, it's you know she she's looking
- 27:16Speaker 1: at you right now at five paces. I wish you
- 27:18Speaker 1: could see this face. Uh no, it's just it's just
- 27:22Speaker 1: me and Kenzie right now. So keeping a lot open
- 27:26Speaker 1: and we're going to do our thing and hopefully, you know,
- 27:29Speaker 1: hopefully something happens. We'll see. Well, I'd love to see
- 27:31Speaker 1: you on Bachelor in Paradise this summer if you are
- 27:33Speaker 1: still single, rounding, that might be something that could happen.
- 27:37Speaker 1: All right, well, Kenny, thank you so much. We hope
- 27:40Speaker 1: to have you back on. You're like, all right, bye, Kenny,
- 27:46Speaker 1: Kenney was and your family the best man. Thanks for
- 27:48Speaker 1: coming on. Thanks, thank you talking to then. Well you guys,
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- 29:12Speaker 1: And Ashley can't talk right now, that's okay, that's there's
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- 29:20Speaker 1: talk next week, I've got your back. I can't and
- 29:23Speaker 1: we are excited. This is a big deal for us. Actually,
- 29:26Speaker 1: I want to tell our listeners we actually have a
- 29:28Speaker 1: contestant that, just as of this week, has left the
- 29:32Speaker 1: show in studio with us right now. This is the
- 29:35Speaker 1: first time we've had a recent contestant on our podcast.
- 29:39Speaker 1: An Elie Welcome to almost favorite podcast. Yeah, this is
- 29:42Speaker 1: so cool. Thank you. All right, Analyse, you gotta tell
- 29:46Speaker 1: us about your bumper car drama and your dog scare well,
- 29:50Speaker 1: and we're sorry you got dumped. Yeah, we're sorry you
- 29:52Speaker 1: got dumbs. But I feel like you're fine about that
- 29:53Speaker 1: for some reason, you know, totally fine. Everything happens for
- 29:56Speaker 1: a reason, you know. Um yeah, bumper car trauma. It's
- 29:59Speaker 1: a thing. I've actually gotten a ton of support around it,
- 30:02Speaker 1: so I'm like super pumped that. Like a lot of
- 30:05Speaker 1: people have reached out to me and are like surviving
- 30:09Speaker 1: seriously seriously my Yeah, the football coach at my high
- 30:13Speaker 1: school was like, my niece was seriously injured in a
- 30:16Speaker 1: bumper car accident as permanent brain damage. Like it's a thing.
- 30:20Speaker 1: I've had multiple people reach out to me and they're like,
- 30:22Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I feel you. I'm in the same
- 30:24Speaker 1: boat exactly. So that's making these hilarious tweets from people
- 30:28Speaker 1: magazine that I want to read less fun but I
- 30:31Speaker 1: think I can fight through that. Still a lot less
- 30:33Speaker 1: funny now. But I know if you read in my
- 30:36Speaker 1: Cosmo recap last week, I talked about how I'm not
- 30:39Speaker 1: necessarily traumatized up opper cars, but I never understood the
- 30:43Speaker 1: appeal of them same like why do you want to
- 30:45Speaker 1: just ram into people? And I think from me, like
- 30:48Speaker 1: so people didn't really understand what was going on that day,
- 30:50Speaker 1: and like a big part of it for me was
- 30:52Speaker 1: actually like a bullying aspect. I was at a birthday
- 30:54Speaker 1: party and I had these girls that were like really
- 30:56Speaker 1: bullying me that day, kind of like that whole year.
- 30:59Speaker 1: I was like in a new school and I felt
- 31:01Speaker 1: very like attacked, And so I think that was where
- 31:04Speaker 1: like the trauma came from, you know, that like deep
- 31:06Speaker 1: feeling of like girls just picking on you. So did
- 31:08Speaker 1: they try to ram into you with their bumper cars?
- 31:11Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really remember the details because I
- 31:13Speaker 1: was probably like seven years old, so it's just one
- 31:15Speaker 1: of those things. As soon as I got there, I
- 31:17Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, that feeling of just like
- 31:19Speaker 1: people picking on you and making fun of you was
- 31:22Speaker 1: all coming back. And then I think it was just
- 31:23Speaker 1: like being in the house with all those girls and
- 31:25Speaker 1: stuff too. It was like bringing up so many definitely
- 31:28Speaker 1: want to dig into this, but I'd love to read
- 31:30Speaker 1: the actor. So Ben Flannic, We'll start with him, Bachelor
- 31:34Speaker 1: Ben Planic. So this was People Magazine posted all these
- 31:37Speaker 1: tweets last week when this episode aired. From Ben, Just
- 31:41Speaker 1: when I thought I was out, the dramatic bumper car
- 31:44Speaker 1: edit pulled me back in. This is This is from
- 31:47Speaker 1: some guy named Taylor. That bumper car flashback on The
- 31:50Speaker 1: Bachelor deserves an Emmy. Stellar work everyone, and that wasn't
- 31:53Speaker 1: really year footed rights. This from Kate And look, we'll
- 32:00Speaker 1: dig into the actual trauma of it, but I mean,
- 32:02Speaker 1: this is kind of funny. I just had a really
- 32:04Speaker 1: bad bumper card trauma. Everyone kept bumping into my car.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Who was the one girl that was so bitchy but
- 32:11Speaker 1: so funny? That was like, Oh, that girl's got bumper
- 32:14Speaker 1: card drama. I'm gonna ram my car right into her.
- 32:17Speaker 1: That you watching the one girl that was going to
- 32:20Speaker 1: bump right into you. I didn't see that clip. Did
- 32:23Speaker 1: I miss it? Yeah? Maybe it was on a preview
- 32:25Speaker 1: or something. Do you get an edited? Maybe I don't
- 32:31Speaker 1: remember that. Did I get a special version? I can't
- 32:35Speaker 1: work tomorrow. I've had a relapse of my bumper card trauma.
- 32:38Speaker 1: People are funny, but I am sorry that you had
- 32:40Speaker 1: actual trauma. Yeah, oh no. I mean the thing is
- 32:42Speaker 1: is it's not like it's not messing with my life now,
- 32:46Speaker 1: you know. And my biggest question was, first the bumper
- 32:50Speaker 1: car thing was funny, but then the next week you're
- 32:52Speaker 1: afraid of dogs. And at that point, were you like, oh,
- 32:55Speaker 1: I'll just hand this up and it'll be kind of funny.
- 32:58Speaker 1: This will be my ongoing theme is like being scared
- 33:00Speaker 1: of every grouped it. Honestly, I did not think they
- 33:02Speaker 1: would air any of that stuff about the dog, like
- 33:05Speaker 1: my dog trauma, just because because then it was so
- 33:08Speaker 1: not relevant to like what the date actually was. So um.
- 33:12Speaker 1: But I was like freaking out. I'm like, oh my gosh,
- 33:14Speaker 1: they are just trying to beat me up right now,
- 33:16Speaker 1: like first the derby and now they're going to have
- 33:18Speaker 1: like attack dogs coming, you know, viciously at there are
- 33:22Speaker 1: attack dogs, I thought, so my initial thought was I
- 33:25Speaker 1: thought they were going to have us like in jumpsuits
- 33:27Speaker 1: and have dogs like attacking us and like training dogs
- 33:30Speaker 1: to do. So I was like, oh crap, this is
- 33:35Speaker 1: not going to be another fun day for me. But
- 33:37Speaker 1: you know, I have actually, like quite a few scars
- 33:39Speaker 1: on my face from my dog attack when I was
- 33:41Speaker 1: a kid. I almost lost my eye when I was
- 33:43Speaker 1: like every time, I'm sorry, I'm bringing it background. It's like,
- 33:48Speaker 1: not exactly, They're real things. So, um, So, are you
- 33:51Speaker 1: scared of rural dogs now? No? I actually, I mean
- 33:54Speaker 1: I love dogs. I'm in the process of trying to
- 33:56Speaker 1: adopt a dog now, so I'm like, I love dogs,
- 33:58Speaker 1: but there's definitely like there are dogs that have been
- 34:00Speaker 1: abused or been you know, shifty a little bit, and
- 34:03Speaker 1: you can tell their energy is just like a little off,
- 34:06Speaker 1: and those kind of dogs I get really like knots
- 34:09Speaker 1: in my stomach immediately that you got the pooper scooper job.
- 34:13Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that was they just were
- 34:14Speaker 1: trying to give me the you know what um jobs.
- 34:17Speaker 1: So right, well, I just feel like I was I
- 34:20Speaker 1: was sad for you because I thought maybe you were
- 34:22Speaker 1: scared of all dogs and of dogs. No. Actually, so
- 34:25Speaker 1: I'm an event planner and I have a client and
- 34:28Speaker 1: I throw all of her dog birthday parties. So um,
- 34:31Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time with dogs. Good, good, good.
- 34:34Speaker 1: I'm glad it didn't ruin dogs for you. Now we
- 34:36Speaker 1: have to talk about how awkward. Okay, you're you had
- 34:40Speaker 1: two awkward moments, two very prominent awkward moments. One on
- 34:45Speaker 1: the group date. Tell us about your feelings with Ari
- 34:47Speaker 1: when you try to talk to him on the group
- 34:49Speaker 1: date and you're just like, this is just not happening
- 34:51Speaker 1: for us, is it? Yeah? So I went in and uh,
- 34:54Speaker 1: first of all, it was like a little bit hard
- 34:56Speaker 1: to get time with him at all that night, and
- 34:58Speaker 1: so when I finally got some time, I was like,
- 35:00Speaker 1: all right, I gotta make the most of it. And
- 35:02Speaker 1: then it just felt like pulling teeth, like he and
- 35:04Speaker 1: I just the conversation was never there. I always felt
- 35:07Speaker 1: like I'd ask him something and then it was like
- 35:09Speaker 1: a one word back and I'm like, all right, you
- 35:11Speaker 1: want to elaborate or like ask me something now, Like
- 35:13Speaker 1: it was just not a two way street. I felt
- 35:15Speaker 1: like his body language was like totally turned away from me,
- 35:18Speaker 1: which was like very hard to kind of get him
- 35:20Speaker 1: to warm up to me. So um, so yeah, so
- 35:23Speaker 1: I was like this is, yeah, this is not happening.
- 35:25Speaker 1: So did you feel like that was the way he
- 35:27Speaker 1: treated all the girls he wasn't really ribing with No, definitely,
- 35:30Speaker 1: not like what you guys were saying earlier. I feel
- 35:32Speaker 1: like the girls that he liked it was so clear,
- 35:36Speaker 1: and the girls that he was a maybe or didn't like,
- 35:38Speaker 1: it was just it was so clear, you know. And
- 35:41Speaker 1: I felt like I was one of the girls that
- 35:43Speaker 1: I don't know if he had definitely made his mind
- 35:44Speaker 1: up about me, but I felt like he wasn't taking
- 35:47Speaker 1: the time to get to know if he if there
- 35:49Speaker 1: was anything even there so interesting. He was really trying
- 35:53Speaker 1: to make an uncomfortable environment even more awkward. Yeah, it
- 35:59Speaker 1: was just never. It was always it was always just
- 36:01Speaker 1: work with him and um and it was never like
- 36:04Speaker 1: carefree or fun. And I would have loved if we
- 36:07Speaker 1: got to the point where we are just like making out,
- 36:09Speaker 1: because I feel like that was like his fallback with
- 36:11Speaker 1: a lot of girls. Yeah, sometimes I'm watching the show
- 36:15Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, I think he's just kissing girls because
- 36:17Speaker 1: he doesn't really know what to say anymore, and he
- 36:20Speaker 1: knows that that's his skill. So maybe intimate conversation, playful conversation.
- 36:25Speaker 1: He's not very playful or flurry, but maybe he feels
- 36:28Speaker 1: like kissing is his strength, so he goes right for that.
- 36:31Speaker 1: And like him, I definitely like in the beginning, I'm like, Okay,
- 36:35Speaker 1: you know what, I'm here for this guy. He seems
- 36:36Speaker 1: like a great guy. I'm going to give him a shot.
- 36:38Speaker 1: But then as it was going, I mean, I have
- 36:42Speaker 1: no interest in him. Now, let's put it that way.
- 36:44Speaker 1: I don't watch it back and say, oh my gosh,
- 36:45Speaker 1: I have so many regrets it. Uh that night, I
- 36:50Speaker 1: was done. I was like, I had nothing, no interest
- 36:54Speaker 1: in him. All right, let's talk about the kiss. And
- 36:57Speaker 1: that was probably the most demoralizing moment I've ever seen
- 37:00Speaker 1: on TV. I mean, he said, I don't think we're
- 37:02Speaker 1: there yet. Yeah, as you basically said, can I kiss you? Right?
- 37:06Speaker 1: So tell us about your feelings. So yeah, I mean,
- 37:08Speaker 1: definitely not a fun moment. But I knew that I
- 37:11Speaker 1: didn't want to be if he was just going to
- 37:12Speaker 1: like keep me around to be like in the background
- 37:15Speaker 1: for a couple more weeks, you know, I'm like, I
- 37:17Speaker 1: don't need that, and um, and also it was just
- 37:19Speaker 1: it was hard being with all these girls who were like,
- 37:21Speaker 1: oh my god, I just made out with him or
- 37:23Speaker 1: you know whatever, and I'm like, okay, really like throw
- 37:26Speaker 1: me your bone, dude, and dog day um exactly, and
- 37:33Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, really, guys, let's rub it in a
- 37:35Speaker 1: little bit more. And so you know, like at the
- 37:38Speaker 1: end of the day, um oh. And that was the
- 37:40Speaker 1: other thing. So the girls kept saying like, well, he
- 37:42Speaker 1: was never the one to make the first move. I
- 37:43Speaker 1: always had to be the one to make the first move.
- 37:45Speaker 1: But I don't want to, Like, you know, sometimes you
- 37:47Speaker 1: see those bachelor moments where you they the girl like
- 37:49Speaker 1: lunges themselves at the guy. I think I had a
- 37:51Speaker 1: moment or two like that, and then they reject it though,
- 37:55Speaker 1: or it's just a really awkward moment, and I'm like,
- 37:57Speaker 1: I don't want to be that girl. So I'd rather
- 37:58Speaker 1: like put it out there and if he doesn't, then
- 38:00Speaker 1: he doesn't. Ben, did you make the first move or
- 38:02Speaker 1: did the girls make the move on you? I think
- 38:06Speaker 1: I always make them first move. I think it would
- 38:09Speaker 1: be weird if I would expect the girls to to
- 38:12Speaker 1: make the first move. I'm the one. Um. I think,
- 38:14Speaker 1: especially in the beginning is like I said earlier, your
- 38:17Speaker 1: job is to make everybody feel comfortable. I think, and
- 38:19Speaker 1: to make everybody feel like this is at some level
- 38:22Speaker 1: a normal deal. And as a result, like part of
- 38:26Speaker 1: that comfortability for me to you know, tell the girls, hey,
- 38:28Speaker 1: I really care about you, was to kiss them, to
- 38:30Speaker 1: make the first move, to put myself out there, and
- 38:32Speaker 1: for myself to take the rest, not make the women
- 38:35Speaker 1: take the rest. Right right, I'm thinking Ari's like, oh,
- 38:38Speaker 1: you know, I'm the kissing bandit, I'm so talented this,
- 38:41Speaker 1: you have to come get it. So he kissed all
- 38:43Speaker 1: eighteen girls minus you. That's a lot, I think. So,
- 38:46Speaker 1: I think that's a lot. Then a lot. But the
- 38:49Speaker 1: thing is, there were like two kisses that really they
- 38:52Speaker 1: weren't They weren't like kisses kisses. It was kind of
- 38:54Speaker 1: like a dare or right or you know, something like that.
- 38:57Speaker 1: So I felt I felt less about hibout that when
- 39:00Speaker 1: I found out a theater. But right, like the Babby's
- 39:02Speaker 1: kiss make air, No, I don't think so, because well,
- 39:06Speaker 1: and like Ben, like you were saying, I mean, I
- 39:08Speaker 1: think personally for me, I think that's a big part
- 39:10Speaker 1: of it. Like I like the man to kind of
- 39:11Speaker 1: take control and like guide those situations too, and make
- 39:14Speaker 1: me feel like they really want me to be there.
- 39:16Speaker 1: And are attracted to me, and so I didn't want
- 39:18Speaker 1: to be the one just like throwing myself at some dude.
- 39:21Speaker 1: He's a little weird. Some of the girls are like
- 39:22Speaker 1: climbing on top of him. That's making me feel weird
- 39:25Speaker 1: every time I watch it. Okay, wait, and I also
- 39:28Speaker 1: need to talk about how everybody was like, oh my god,
- 39:30Speaker 1: he's the best kisser ever, best kisser're ever? Right, And
- 39:33Speaker 1: on Emily season, I was like, Wow, he's a really
- 39:35Speaker 1: romantic kisser. And I like, even when Al was announced,
- 39:38Speaker 1: to remember how I described how perfectly he kisses. Now
- 39:41Speaker 1: I don't feel the same way because it's like an act.
- 39:45Speaker 1: I feel like he's doing it with girls he's barely
- 39:47Speaker 1: talking to, barely knows, And now all the romance of
- 39:51Speaker 1: what I thought Ari's kiss was like is out the window,
- 39:54Speaker 1: and I just I just don't feel And what I
- 39:56Speaker 1: don't want to kis him anymore. I want to know
- 39:58Speaker 1: what girls Analyze became f with and what girls? Uh
- 40:02Speaker 1: does she think he likes the best? But wait, An,
- 40:04Speaker 1: do you feel the same way about his kissing? Well,
- 40:06Speaker 1: I was just going to say that I am so
- 40:07Speaker 1: glad that I didn't kiss him on the show because
- 40:09Speaker 1: watching him kiss those girls on the show, like, yes,
- 40:11Speaker 1: you can see he's a sensual kisser, but like it
- 40:14Speaker 1: grosses me out how much he's like so over every girl. Um, okay,
- 40:19Speaker 1: so my favorites is that? Okay? So well, I think
- 40:22Speaker 1: the girls who were going to make it to the
- 40:24Speaker 1: top would be uh Caroline, Chelsea, uh long haired Becca
- 40:32Speaker 1: and yeah, I think those are sort of my top Caroline.
- 40:35Speaker 1: She hasn't really made much of a debut yet. She
- 40:38Speaker 1: on the dog date was the one who kissed him
- 40:41Speaker 1: uh at the during our performance. But okay, maybe maybe
- 40:47Speaker 1: they didn't show it. I just have I have it, like,
- 40:49Speaker 1: you know, screened in my head forever. Um. But yeah.
- 40:53Speaker 1: And then my favorites from the show were Kendall, Cien,
- 40:57Speaker 1: Bibiana of course love her, um and there's no one
- 41:01Speaker 1: like Crystal. Let's just put it out here. Yeah. I
- 41:05Speaker 1: feel so bad because I didn't know her story. So
- 41:07Speaker 1: after the fact, after watching it back and finding out
- 41:09Speaker 1: about her family life, you know, you kind of feel like,
- 41:11Speaker 1: oh god, it's coming from a place. But she's not
- 41:14Speaker 1: a very nice person. Like I'll just say, she's not
- 41:17Speaker 1: a nice person. So it's hard having a conversation with her,
- 41:20Speaker 1: She definitely was constantly digging, trying to make you feel
- 41:24Speaker 1: uncomfortable or like if she wasn't talking to you, Um,
- 41:28Speaker 1: it was because she was trying to be like omissive
- 41:30Speaker 1: and leave things out so that you weren't going I said,
- 41:34Speaker 1: bachelor villain rule number one, if you're trying to be
- 41:37Speaker 1: a bachelor villain, don't tell the other girls what's happening
- 41:39Speaker 1: on your dates. Right, be secretive from Ben, because I
- 41:44Speaker 1: know Ben, you and Nick kind of touched on this,
- 41:45Speaker 1: and I really want to get your vibe on that
- 41:48Speaker 1: whispery baby talkie, the thing she's doing phone sex operator. Yeah,
- 41:55Speaker 1: is that hot or what? Actually? Can you recreate it
- 42:00Speaker 1: for Ben? You know what it sounds like. I mean,
- 42:04Speaker 1: I think it's probably attractive for some guys. Um, she's
- 42:08Speaker 1: trying hard. And I think that's the part sometimes in
- 42:11Speaker 1: the and when we watch the show, it comes off
- 42:14Speaker 1: as me and and she comes off as distance, and
- 42:16Speaker 1: she comes off as a little minipua miniplutive. But then
- 42:20Speaker 1: we hear a story like this is coming from a
- 42:22Speaker 1: place that isn't good. And I think even like that
- 42:26Speaker 1: little like you know qc TC voice, she's you know,
- 42:29Speaker 1: throwing off at him is coming from a place that
- 42:32Speaker 1: is probably a little bit of insecurity because she feels
- 42:34Speaker 1: like she has to do something to him impress him.
- 42:37Speaker 1: And that briefly good question, dun at last, I want
- 42:40Speaker 1: to know when you have left this show this week,
- 42:43Speaker 1: what was the vibe in the house towards our for
- 42:46Speaker 1: the girls head of reveal for him? I mean, we
- 42:49Speaker 1: know Crystal is Um, she's really excited about the idea
- 42:52Speaker 1: of art. Is that a common sentiment for the house
- 42:55Speaker 1: or when you left that it seemed like they're things
- 42:58Speaker 1: are little shaky. I think there was definitely some like
- 43:01Speaker 1: clear people who felt comfortable, but there were also like
- 43:04Speaker 1: I remember having a conversation with Um, with Kendall and
- 43:07Speaker 1: CN and UH and they both were like, I mean,
- 43:11Speaker 1: I don't even know at this point, you know, like
- 43:13Speaker 1: I still really need to learn so much about him
- 43:16Speaker 1: to figure out if I like him and if this
- 43:18Speaker 1: is going to go somewhere. And I think it was
- 43:19Speaker 1: still so early, so we were all just trying to
- 43:21Speaker 1: figure out if it's if it could be something, and
- 43:25Speaker 1: I mean I found out that it couldn't. So when
- 43:28Speaker 1: hor and S didn't come back, were people like so
- 43:32Speaker 1: I think I was the only one that was really
- 43:35Speaker 1: upfront that day, uh that I thought there was no
- 43:38Speaker 1: way she was coming back. And I loved her, but
- 43:41Speaker 1: I could see it there was just really no chemistry
- 43:44Speaker 1: and m and she did say some things in the
- 43:46Speaker 1: house too about how she typically gets put in the
- 43:48Speaker 1: friend zone with guys, and I could just see how
- 43:51Speaker 1: that was going to probably happen all over again and
- 43:54Speaker 1: I should talk to her. Oh my gosh, can we
- 43:57Speaker 1: recreate the Winner games promoment the friends and so confused
- 44:05Speaker 1: that's actually in the Winter Game. Okay, I have a
- 44:08Speaker 1: couple more questions for you, but first have to take
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- 45:55Speaker 1: I gotta ask you to to final questions that I
- 45:59Speaker 1: that I really want to know, and I like to
- 46:00Speaker 1: ask you done this show, and especially has recently left
- 46:04Speaker 1: the show? Are you glad you did it? I am
- 46:06Speaker 1: no regrets. I'm so happy I did it. I met
- 46:09Speaker 1: some great people and uh yeah, I'm excited for to come. Yeah,
- 46:14Speaker 1: what is become? I mean, that's that's the big question
- 46:16Speaker 1: everybody is talking about right now. Ivaccination. It seems like
- 46:19Speaker 1: a lot of contestants go off and they find new
- 46:22Speaker 1: careers or they take advantage of the social media things
- 46:25Speaker 1: that they did. What is extra you personally outside of
- 46:28Speaker 1: those things? I mean personally, I'm just excited about this
- 46:31Speaker 1: new sort of like sorority fraternity, bachelor nation of like
- 46:36Speaker 1: dating pool, you know, thank you family dating has sucked
- 46:42Speaker 1: and so this, yeah, exactly. I like that she's not
- 46:46Speaker 1: trying to be like, oh, I don't know, She's admitting it, like, hey,
- 46:49Speaker 1: I get to meet all these people now and I
- 46:50Speaker 1: might data. Yeah, I mean yeah, travel. I mean there's
- 46:53Speaker 1: like there are a lot of perks. I'm not gonna
- 46:55Speaker 1: lie but um, but I'm excited mostly to hopefully like
- 46:58Speaker 1: have some new friends and day and um see what happens. Ben,
- 47:02Speaker 1: who should we set Anna Lisa up with? Which of
- 47:04Speaker 1: your let's think of someone? What is your type of guy?
- 47:07Speaker 1: Now that welcome to the podcast? You want to date Jared?
- 47:12Speaker 1: Jared is my number one pick. No, he's actually not.
- 47:16Speaker 1: The look on Ashley's face, just to change a little,
- 47:19Speaker 1: who is your bachelor? Crod Um. I have had a
- 47:24Speaker 1: couple of people be like, oh, Luke, you guys should
- 47:26Speaker 1: date um. So, I mean Peter would be the pick probably,
- 47:32Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know, or Nick we can have
- 47:36Speaker 1: that happen. Yeah, those are definitely I have to say that.
- 47:39Speaker 1: When I was auditioning Ben, I did say that you
- 47:42Speaker 1: were my favorite Bachelor of Yeah. I mean, well just
- 47:46Speaker 1: because you're like, oh, package, if you're gonna you're gonna
- 47:48Speaker 1: date the bachelor. You want to date someone who's like
- 47:50Speaker 1: a good guy, handsome, like kind, grand has fooled everyone.
- 47:55Speaker 1: I'm just kidding that I I play a good joke.
- 48:00Speaker 1: Well that's really suit of you, thank you. And I
- 48:03Speaker 1: mean I think there's a lot of great people that
- 48:04Speaker 1: do do this show, and I think that it is
- 48:06Speaker 1: a fun little world to live in because you do
- 48:09Speaker 1: meet a ton of new friends who live all across
- 48:11Speaker 1: the country, sometimes in the world. And we would like
- 48:14Speaker 1: to on the almost famous podcast now welcome you into
- 48:17Speaker 1: this world of singleness, of a lot of options. Um
- 48:21Speaker 1: have fun to go out there, you know, and and
- 48:24Speaker 1: find your perfect man. Brings me my last question, exactly
- 48:28Speaker 1: I'm hoping it is aries perfect woman. How do you
- 48:33Speaker 1: think ends up with him in the end? Here from
- 48:35Speaker 1: day one, I thought it was going to be Beca,
- 48:38Speaker 1: not Pixie Becca the other back up. Really okay, I
- 48:41Speaker 1: don't know anything. I don't know spoilers. So girl, she
- 48:43Speaker 1: got the one on one day, we got the first
- 48:45Speaker 1: one on one. I mean, how could you not just
- 48:47Speaker 1: form this like perfect kind of like vision of this
- 48:50Speaker 1: man after a date like that and then things, you know,
- 48:54Speaker 1: she just like calls him her boyfriend from day one,
- 48:56Speaker 1: and I feel like makes the other girls feel a
- 48:58Speaker 1: little bit like, wait, he's already with her, so taking
- 49:02Speaker 1: I mean, for me personally, when I was on those
- 49:03Speaker 1: group dates, I always felt like I was on a
- 49:05Speaker 1: date with Becca and her boyfriend, and really I was
- 49:08Speaker 1: just a friend who like tagged, you know, like let's
- 49:10Speaker 1: go hang out. Oh I'm gonna bring my boyfriend. Like
- 49:13Speaker 1: that was what it felt like. She's a dark horse.
- 49:15Speaker 1: Then to me, the one that someone said they're going
- 49:17Speaker 1: to get married? Really yeah, no way, okay, well none
- 49:22Speaker 1: one of the girls saw them leaving or something and said,
- 49:25Speaker 1: I think she was like, oh shoot, I saw how
- 49:27Speaker 1: cute they were. They're probably gonna get married. Oh my gosh. Well,
- 49:30Speaker 1: thank you for bringing her back to my attention because
- 49:32Speaker 1: I thought that was a great date. And I see
- 49:34Speaker 1: that together. Um, but I don't. I didn't. She was
- 49:36Speaker 1: very in the episode three that we just watched. Yeah, alright,
- 49:42Speaker 1: well analyis thank you so so much. This is a blast.
- 49:45Speaker 1: You're welcome any time. Yeah, and we love to have
- 49:47Speaker 1: you come back and just you know, give a little
- 49:49Speaker 1: bit more feedback of these girls. The season progressive because
- 49:52Speaker 1: you actually know them in her life. Yes, and they're great,
- 49:54Speaker 1: most of them are really great. All right, and I
- 49:56Speaker 1: think we should all go on some bumper cars together. Yeah,
- 49:58Speaker 1: let's do it. Our next trip to not Sperry Farm.
- 50:02Speaker 1: She's coming all right by and only thank you so much.
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- 51:20Speaker 1: move on. This is from Mana Vica. Hi, Ban Ashley.
- 51:24Speaker 1: I am talking to you guys from India, and I'm
- 51:27Speaker 1: fairly new to the Bachelor world as I've only seen
- 51:30Speaker 1: the last three seasons of b I p and Ben
- 51:32Speaker 1: jojo in Rachel's season and now I'm watching Aris. My
- 51:35Speaker 1: question is, what are your next Bachelorette predictions? Anyone from
- 51:40Speaker 1: our season or wild card like Christina from next season?
- 51:44Speaker 1: Well the podcast and your friendship love Manneca Vica, all right,
- 51:51Speaker 1: I'm still going with Christina for some reason right now,
- 51:53Speaker 1: because I think Becca short Hairbecca is a good candidate,
- 51:56Speaker 1: but way too young and nobody would be on board
- 51:58Speaker 1: for the twenty two year old bachelor. I would have, Yeah,
- 52:02Speaker 1: I would have to agree. I think Tia from this
- 52:04Speaker 1: season yes the best chance. I think. I just think
- 52:07Speaker 1: he is compelling. I know, obviously have I said it
- 52:10Speaker 1: last week. She's one of my top choices on our
- 52:13Speaker 1: season right now. She's beautiful, she's funny. I think she
- 52:15Speaker 1: should would be a great candidate to be the Bachelor.
- 52:18Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if you see Tia. I agree, Ben,
- 52:23Speaker 1: I know it's a little early on. I think we
- 52:25Speaker 1: should answer this question in three weeks. We will, Yeah,
- 52:29Speaker 1: I'm sure we will. But Tia is also the one
- 52:32Speaker 1: girl from our season that is giving me bachelorette vibes.
- 52:36Speaker 1: I wish I would enjoy Becca if she wasn't so young.
- 52:39Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Becca could be a great bach in a
- 52:41Speaker 1: couple of years. Perfect. Maybe she'll come back all of Emily.
- 52:47Speaker 1: I mean, who knows it would be the Bachelor now? Damn, girl,
- 52:55Speaker 1: you look great. You would not that like as if
- 52:58Speaker 1: thirty three like Jerry. Yeah, okay, all right, well Ben,
- 53:06Speaker 1: next time, hopefully we have you in studio. I would
- 53:10Speaker 1: love that. But if not, actually I wish you the best.
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- 53:26Speaker 1: Amy Mark Easton, thank you all. Actually, it's good to
- 53:31Speaker 1: have you back. Welcome back. Thanks. I feel like I
- 53:33Speaker 1: was just a sloppy mess today. I really didn't have
- 53:35Speaker 1: my footing. I got off eight, I got only four.
- 53:38Speaker 1: I woke up at four in the morning, So let's
- 53:41Speaker 1: have some slack people. I can't talk. Yeah, no, no,
- 53:45Speaker 1: nobody is feeling bad that you went on vacation and
- 53:48Speaker 1: also went to the Patriots game last night at best
- 53:51Speaker 1: up for me here on out love you. Uh stop
- 53:56Speaker 1: being so territorial. Let ant last date your exes, hook
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- 54:01Speaker 1: has been the almost Famous podcast I've Been Been, I've
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