Latest / Wired To Hunt Podcast / Ep. 1070: Foundations - How to Decipher Early Buck Sign and Use it to Fill Your Tags Now
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired2Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide to the
- 0:05Speaker 1: fundamentals of better deer hunting. Presented by First Light, creating proven,
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- 0:15Speaker 1: go farther, stay longer. And now, your host, Tony Peterson.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Hey, everyone.
- 0:21Speaker 3: Welcome to the Wired2Hunt Foundations podcast, which is brought to
- 0:24Speaker 3: you by First Light. I'm your host, Tony Peterson. And
- 0:25Speaker 3: today's episode is all about early season deer sign and
- 0:29Speaker 3: how you can use it to fill your September buck tags.
- 0:34Speaker 3: For a heck of a lot of us, deer season
- 0:36Speaker 3: is finally here. For the rest, it's coming very, very soon.
- 0:41Speaker 3: What has happened and what will happen is that a
- 0:43Speaker 3: lot of folks will get out there. They'll hunt some
- 0:45Speaker 3: destination food sources. and then either celebrate their success or
- 0:49Speaker 3: start to throttle back until October cold fronts and the
- 0:52Speaker 3: first whispers of the rut get them off the couch
- 0:55Speaker 3: and back into the woods.
- 0:57Speaker 2: In my not-so-humble opinion, that's kind of a bad way
- 0:59Speaker 2: to look at it.
- 1:01Speaker 3: I think a better way is to try to understand
- 1:03Speaker 3: what the bucks do around the opener and then use
- 1:06Speaker 3: sign to clue yourself into exactly where to kill them,
- 1:09Speaker 3: which is what I'm going to talk about right now.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Back in October of 1980, a former security guard from
- 1:20Speaker 3: Honolulu with no prior criminal convictions set out to model
- 1:25Speaker 3: his life after a fictional character in the novel Catcher
- 1:29Speaker 3: in the Rye. That fella who was looking to live
- 1:32Speaker 3: his life like Holden Caulfield, the book's protagonist who was
- 1:36Speaker 3: obsessed with phonies and hypocrisy, was named Mark David Chapman.
- 1:41Speaker 3: If that rings a vaguely familiar bell in some of
- 1:43Speaker 3: your brains... It's probably because Chapman had heard John Lennon
- 1:47Speaker 3: of the Beatles say that the band was more popular
- 1:50Speaker 3: than Jesus. Lennon also wrote the song Imagine, where he
- 1:54Speaker 3: sings a line that goes, imagine no possessions, in a
- 1:58Speaker 3: nod to how materialism shouldn't really matter and it's not
- 2:00Speaker 3: good for us as a society. Chapman thought that line,
- 2:04Speaker 3: you know, with Lennon's actual lavish lifestyle and many, many
- 2:08Speaker 3: luxury possessions, made him a phony. So he went out
- 2:12Speaker 3: and bought a. 38 revolver, and hatched a plan to
- 2:15Speaker 3: wait for Lennon. Not only when he actually made that
- 2:18Speaker 3: happen did the two exchange pleasantries on the sidewalk, but
- 2:22Speaker 3: Chapman is quoted as saying, he was very kind to me. Ironically,
- 2:26Speaker 3: very kind and patient with me. But that kindness wasn't enough, though.
- 2:31Speaker 3: And later that night when Lennon returned, Chapman fired five
- 2:34Speaker 3: hollow point bullets into his back. Lennon's murder obviously altered
- 2:38Speaker 3: the course of rock and roll and, you know, kind
- 2:40Speaker 3: of music in general.
- 2:42Speaker 2: And possibly the world to some extent. It was a
- 2:44Speaker 2: big deal.
- 2:46Speaker 3: This left Lennon's wife, Yoko Ono, who is known for
- 2:49Speaker 3: absolutely horrendous singing and, well, being partially responsible for breaking
- 2:54Speaker 3: up the Beatles.
- 2:55Speaker 1: A widow.
- 2:56Speaker 3: But before her, Lennon was married to a woman named Cynthia.
- 3:01Speaker 3: They had a turbulent relationship. She eventually got pregnant, and
- 3:05Speaker 3: it being about 60 years ago, meant they felt like
- 3:08Speaker 3: they needed to get married.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Now, that child was.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Born, and they named it John Charles Julian Lennon. But
- 3:14Speaker 3: he was always called Julian after John's late mother. Now,
- 3:18Speaker 3: when Cynthia and John called it quits on their marriage,
- 3:22Speaker 3: Beatles frontman Paul McCartney would drive out to visit Cynthia
- 3:26Speaker 3: and Julian to try to comfort them during the divorce
- 3:29Speaker 3: and the disillusion of their family. On one of those drives,
- 3:33Speaker 3: the line, Hey Jules, don't make it bad, take a
- 3:36Speaker 3: sad song and make it better, rattled through his brain.
- 3:40Speaker 3: That line, and the melody he put to it, ended
- 3:44Speaker 3: up being the basis for the hit song, Hey Jude.
- 3:47Speaker 3: Just 14 words or so at the start, ended up
- 3:50Speaker 3: becoming one of their biggest hits, and is a song
- 3:52Speaker 3: that is dang near universally loved still to this day.
- 3:57Speaker 3: That songwriting process reminds me of something else that starts
- 4:00Speaker 3: very minimal, and then grows to become more complex and nuanced,
- 4:05Speaker 3: and which probably won't seem like it makes much sense
- 4:07Speaker 3: until I explain it, which is Dearsign. specifically early deer sign,
- 4:13Speaker 3: like the rubs and scrapes you might find in the
- 4:15Speaker 3: woods right now. You see, over time the woods will
- 4:19Speaker 3: be full of deer sign, and the whole picture of
- 4:21Speaker 3: buck usage gets a lot muddier pretty quick, especially in
- 4:25Speaker 3: areas with high deer densities. Now there's quite a bit
- 4:28Speaker 3: of whitetail research out there that really contextualizes this reality.
- 4:33Speaker 3: One study conducted in northern Georgia, where the deer density
- 4:36Speaker 3: was estimated to be about 37 deer per square mile,
- 4:39Speaker 3: revealed nearly 600 rubs per square mile, with rubbing activity
- 4:45Speaker 3: occurring pretty consistently throughout the fall. Now, another study up
- 4:48Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania, which was conducted in a state forest, showed
- 4:52Speaker 3: far fewer rubs at only about 53 per square mile.
- 4:56Speaker 3: So there's definitely a range, and it's highly dependent not
- 4:59Speaker 3: only on the amount of deer out there in any
- 5:01Speaker 3: given area, but the amount of mature bucks that are present.
- 5:05Speaker 3: Another study I found showed that mature bucks make about 50%
- 5:08Speaker 3: more rubs than yearlings, which means that the.
- 5:11Speaker 2: More older deer you have, the more rubs you have
- 5:13Speaker 2: to work with.
- 5:15Speaker 3: Now, in the context of songwriting, you might have a
- 5:17Speaker 3: single line of a melody, or maybe a guitar riff,
- 5:21Speaker 3: you know, and eventually the verses and the chorus and
- 5:23Speaker 3: the bridge get fleshed out. And somewhere along the way,
- 5:26Speaker 3: the drummer sits down and starts a mental count, and
- 5:28Speaker 3: then the bass line shows up, and a whole bunch
- 5:30Speaker 3: of other elements form the tapestry for a finished song.
- 5:34Speaker 3: Right now with Deersign, we have just that one line,
- 5:38Speaker 3: a little melody. And you know what it's saying? It
- 5:41Speaker 3: says the bucks you want to shoot are right here,
- 5:44Speaker 3: right now. In a month, the sign will say that
- 5:48Speaker 3: the bucks are here and here and here and there
- 5:51Speaker 3: and all over. But right now where you find those rubs,
- 5:54Speaker 3: you'll find those bucks. They aren't roaming all over the
- 5:58Speaker 3: countryside yet in preparation for the rut. They are just
- 6:01Speaker 3: slipping from summer patterns to fall patterns. but they are
- 6:04Speaker 3: mostly predictable and mostly on a fairly set schedule. Because
- 6:09Speaker 3: of that, you and I as hunters have a huge
- 6:12Speaker 3: advantage over them because even though the sign is pretty
- 6:14Speaker 3: sparse right now, what sign is out there is very valuable.
- 6:20Speaker 3: I've been reminded of this several times in the last
- 6:22Speaker 3: 15 days or so. I spent a lot of time
- 6:25Speaker 3: over in Wisconsin walking around and looking at 1 billion
- 6:27Speaker 3: acorns on the ground and a lot of fresh deer tracks.
- 6:31Speaker 3: But one swampy crossing on public land that I checked
- 6:34Speaker 3: out where I found an ancient apple tree led me
- 6:37Speaker 3: to a low bench on a bluff. You know, it's
- 6:40Speaker 3: the kind of bench that is sort of meadowy, but
- 6:42Speaker 3: also features plenty of trees. It's just the kind of
- 6:45Speaker 3: place where bucks love to bed and stage.
- 6:48Speaker 2: But above that bench.
- 6:49Speaker 3: I found a smaller, more subtle bench that was not
- 6:53Speaker 3: only loaded with acorns, but also loaded with deer poop
- 6:57Speaker 3: and several rubs. Every one of those rubs faced uphill
- 7:02Speaker 3: toward the ridgetop that leads to a private hayfield. Very
- 7:06Speaker 3: classic food to bed stuff. But the interesting thing is
- 7:10Speaker 3: that those bucks that made those rubs showed me exactly
- 7:13Speaker 3: where they are staging now. And because of that, and
- 7:16Speaker 3: because I know very likely where their destination food source
- 7:19Speaker 3: is and can make an educated guess on their bedding area,
- 7:23Speaker 3: I can predict where they should be most killable. All
- 7:26Speaker 3: of that is made possible by finding rubs right now.
- 7:30Speaker 3: Of course, it's not that easy because as soon as
- 7:32Speaker 3: I walked out that ridge, I found a mulch remounted
- 7:35Speaker 3: to a tree facing down the best trail leading to
- 7:37Speaker 3: that private buffet. And when I walked it out to
- 7:40Speaker 3: try to find a good access route, I also stumbled
- 7:43Speaker 3: across a fresh trail marked with flagging tape. Meaning, I
- 7:47Speaker 3: would guess, that if I were to go in there
- 7:49Speaker 3: early in the season, I'd very likely have company. But
- 7:53Speaker 3: I'm also guessing that whoever has that setup ready to
- 7:56Speaker 3: go is going to hunt those deer very close to
- 7:59Speaker 3: that fence line and that private food source, which is
- 8:02Speaker 3: exactly why the bucks are staging where they are. They
- 8:05Speaker 3: know where we like to try to kill them, and
- 8:07Speaker 3: they structure their lives around that. That hunter might kill one.
- 8:11Speaker 2: I hope he does.
- 8:12Speaker 3: But I also think that it's very likely he's off
- 8:14Speaker 3: by a couple hundred yards on that setup. I guess
- 8:17Speaker 3: I'll probably never know. But I do know that I
- 8:20Speaker 3: drove from Wisconsin to southeastern Minnesota with an old-town kayak
- 8:23Speaker 3: in the back of my pickup, and I met up
- 8:25Speaker 3: with a videographer buddy of mine to paddle into some
- 8:28Speaker 3: landlocked public land that holds a special place in my
- 8:31Speaker 3: heart for a.
- 8:32Speaker 2: Lot of reasons.
- 8:43Speaker 3: We paddled up that river in the pouring rain, through
- 8:46Speaker 3: a valley bookended by sheer bluffs, and looked into the
- 8:49Speaker 3: water for smallies and into the sky for eagles.
- 8:52Speaker 2: It's just beautiful.
- 8:53Speaker 3: And I've hunted a lot of beautiful places, but that
- 8:56Speaker 3: one is way up there. And I'm hoping the eventual
- 8:58Speaker 3: film I'll make out of that hunt will show it
- 9:00Speaker 3: just as I see it. And we filmed a clueless
- 9:03Speaker 3: beaver for a while on the bank and then beached
- 9:06Speaker 3: our kayaks, waded through a river bottom jungle, and then
- 9:09Speaker 3: hiked up a large ridge that was crisscrossed with deer
- 9:12Speaker 3: trails at the bottom. At one point, the ridge tightened
- 9:17Speaker 3: up quite a bit, largely due to a big old
- 9:20Speaker 3: limestone outcropping. which means that the bottom of the ridge
- 9:24Speaker 3: splays out and allows for travel pretty much everywhere, just
- 9:27Speaker 3: as the top of the ridge does, but the middle
- 9:29Speaker 3: part doesn't. It's kind of like an hourglass shape. It
- 9:33Speaker 3: necks down tight, and all trails converge into one from
- 9:37Speaker 3: the top and the bottom, which, if you know anything
- 9:40Speaker 3: about pinch points and buck travel, is a very nice
- 9:43Speaker 3: thing to find. Now, as I stood at the top
- 9:45Speaker 3: of that pinch point looking for a tree to set
- 9:47Speaker 3: up in and wondering just how sketchy it would be
- 9:49Speaker 3: to climb up there In the dark, on the riverside
- 9:52Speaker 3: of the bluff, which is very steep, I spotted.
- 9:54Speaker 2: A fresh rub.
- 9:55Speaker 3: It was clearly made by a buck that had followed
- 9:58Speaker 3: the main trail and then peeled off to go bed.
- 10:02Speaker 3: If I were planning to hunt there opening weekend, that
- 10:04Speaker 3: one rub would have probably convinced me of finding a
- 10:07Speaker 3: way to set up there very early in the morning
- 10:10Speaker 3: to wait for that buck to drop off those private
- 10:12Speaker 3: fields on top and make his way toward the river
- 10:15Speaker 3: bottom to sleep away the day. Since I'm not going
- 10:18Speaker 3: back there until October... It was just an encouraging find. Now,
- 10:22Speaker 3: we hiked every ridge and valley on that property and
- 10:25Speaker 3: specifically catered our route to check out the farthest ridge
- 10:28Speaker 3: from the private fields. It's the kind of spot you
- 10:31Speaker 3: look at on onX and think, bucks have to use that.
- 10:35Speaker 3: The way it flattens out at the top and allows
- 10:37Speaker 3: for different routes to get into the bedding cover below
- 10:39Speaker 3: or through the nearest valley to get toward the private
- 10:41Speaker 3: ag was just money. And when we got on the
- 10:44Speaker 3: top of it, we walked to the very point of
- 10:46Speaker 3: that ridge before it drops off and I spotted a rub.
- 10:49Speaker 3: then another, and pretty soon we could stand in one
- 10:52Speaker 3: spot and spin it a circle and count several rubs
- 10:55Speaker 3: and see a very fresh scrape. One of the trees
- 10:59Speaker 3: was actually rubbed so hard that it was broken and
- 11:01Speaker 3: laying on the ground, and it wasn't a super tiny
- 11:03Speaker 3: tree either. It was clear that several bucks were using
- 11:07Speaker 3: that ridgetop, and they were spending a lot of time there.
- 11:10Speaker 3: In fact, we jumped three deer around there, and all
- 11:13Speaker 3: three of them were bucks. Two of them were scrappers,
- 11:16Speaker 3: but one was really nice, and he was bedded just
- 11:18Speaker 3: below that ridge top. That concentration of sign, when I
- 11:23Speaker 3: found it on September 8th, was plain as day. The
- 11:28Speaker 3: bucks are there now, and they are spending a lot
- 11:31Speaker 3: of time there. What's better is that those rubs showed
- 11:34Speaker 3: me the direction of travel of those bucks and made
- 11:37Speaker 3: a pretty clear case that that they were bedding there
- 11:40Speaker 3: or close by and just killing time in that spot
- 11:43Speaker 3: in the evenings before they walk the valley out to
- 11:45Speaker 3: get to that egg. This is the thing that seems
- 11:49Speaker 3: to be missing from a lot of hunters in their
- 11:51Speaker 3: strategy for getting on a big deer when it comes
- 11:53Speaker 3: to sign. We like it when sign shows up around
- 11:56Speaker 3: our favorite spots as the season progresses.
- 11:59Speaker 2: But what does that mean?
- 12:01Speaker 3: Well, in some ways it means that the bucks are
- 12:03Speaker 3: laying down a lot of sign and some of that
- 12:05Speaker 3: happens to be around our stands. To me, that's more
- 12:08Speaker 3: of a measure of just increased buck activity in general,
- 12:12Speaker 3: but it's not being used to get on buck movement
- 12:14Speaker 3: right now, if that makes any sense. Another way we
- 12:17Speaker 3: use sign is by going in, finding some rubs or
- 12:20Speaker 3: a big old community scrape, and hunting over either. And
- 12:24Speaker 3: this can work, but it doesn't take into account not
- 12:27Speaker 3: only why the sign is there, but what that sign
- 12:30Speaker 3: means to current buck movement.
- 12:33Speaker 2: Now, don't get me wrong.
- 12:34Speaker 3: I'd rather always hunt around buck sign than not, but
- 12:36Speaker 3: it's just not so simple. There are times of the season,
- 12:40Speaker 3: especially when you get closer to the pre-rut and the rut,
- 12:43Speaker 3: where you can almost always find yourself hunting around fresh
- 12:46Speaker 3: sign because it's everywhere. This is true in high deer
- 12:49Speaker 3: density areas and in areas where there isn't a whole
- 12:52Speaker 3: lot of meaningful cover. I've seen this in the plain
- 12:55Speaker 3: states a lot, where every patch of timber or piece
- 12:59Speaker 3: of brush is ringed by scrapes or rubs, but because
- 13:01Speaker 3: every patch is... None of them are like obviously special.
- 13:06Speaker 3: It would kind of be like if you just ate
- 13:07Speaker 3: awesome pizza and your favorite apple pie every day. At
- 13:10Speaker 3: some point, the treat aspect is just meaningless because you've
- 13:12Speaker 3: done it too much. Maybe that's a bad example. But
- 13:15Speaker 3: the main point here is that there is a window
- 13:17Speaker 3: in the early season where sign really matters a lot
- 13:20Speaker 3: because it's rare. And because it's rare, where it shows
- 13:23Speaker 3: up matters a lot. Now, most people will never engage
- 13:28Speaker 3: in this type of hunting I'm talking about, though. because
- 13:31Speaker 3: it involves scouting right before you plan to hunt or
- 13:34Speaker 3: during the first week or two of the season. When
- 13:37Speaker 3: we generally try to be super cautious about our presence,
- 13:40Speaker 3: the risk-reward ratio feels out of whack for a lot
- 13:43Speaker 3: of us. And that's partially because we've been conditioned to
- 13:45Speaker 3: play things a little too safely with the deer by,
- 13:48Speaker 3: you know, listening to people who have the luxury of
- 13:50Speaker 3: waiting out perfect conditions and perfect seasonal timing. A better
- 13:54Speaker 3: bet is to scout now for fresh sign and then
- 13:57Speaker 3: hunt it as soon as you possibly can. Now maybe
- 14:00Speaker 3: you need to wait for a rainstorm to go poking
- 14:02Speaker 3: around to minimize your impact on the deer. It's a
- 14:04Speaker 3: good idea and something I do intentionally a lot in
- 14:07Speaker 3: the early season. Or maybe your season is already open
- 14:10Speaker 3: and you can grab your saddle and some sticks and
- 14:12Speaker 3: go sneak around until you find a couple fresh rubs.
- 14:16Speaker 3: The key is to try to make an educated guess
- 14:17Speaker 3: on where the bucks are likely to feed and then
- 14:20Speaker 3: backtrack those travel routes. Like I said earlier, right now
- 14:24Speaker 3: really the name of the game is bed to food and.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Food to bed.
- 14:28Speaker 3: Even in areas where browse largely dominates, because there will
- 14:32Speaker 3: be highly preferred browsing areas, often low areas with lush,
- 14:35Speaker 3: moisture-filled vegetation this time of year. Now, I know this
- 14:39Speaker 3: won't help everyone, but if you do hunt an area
- 14:41Speaker 3: that's pretty dry, and you can get around some dark,
- 14:44Speaker 3: green vegetation, you're usually on to something.
- 14:48Speaker 2: Either way, if you can make.
- 14:49Speaker 3: An educated guess on where your summer-turned-early-fall bucks are likely
- 14:53Speaker 3: to feed overnight, you can probably figure out how they
- 14:56Speaker 3: get there.
- 14:57Speaker 2: And roughly where they might bed.
- 14:59Speaker 3: This travel will often be somewhat condensed because the woods
- 15:03Speaker 3: are thick and cover is everywhere. But somewhere on those routes,
- 15:07Speaker 3: if you guess right, the bucks will tell you far
- 15:10Speaker 3: more precisely where they are traveling. They'll show you rubs
- 15:14Speaker 3: leading to the food or away from the food, which
- 15:17Speaker 3: can tell you whether you need to get in super
- 15:19Speaker 3: early in the pre-dawn darkness or pretty dang early in
- 15:22Speaker 3: the afternoon for an evening sit. This is not a
- 15:25Speaker 3: situation where you want to find a few rubs and
- 15:27Speaker 3: then drop a camera on them, because that will have
- 15:29Speaker 3: you in reactive mode instead of a proactive mode. The
- 15:33Speaker 3: rubs that are out there right now, and the scrapes
- 15:35Speaker 3: if you can find them, show you where the bucks
- 15:38Speaker 3: are right now, and that means you know where they
- 15:41Speaker 3: are killable. I don't mean to make this sound easy,
- 15:44Speaker 3: because it generally isn't, but I can say that I
- 15:47Speaker 3: have quite a few September bucks mounted in my basement,
- 15:50Speaker 3: and a heck of a lot of them are there,
- 15:53Speaker 3: because of me finding a few rubs right before the
- 15:56Speaker 3: season opened or during the first week or two. Now
- 15:59Speaker 3: it's also important to note that I don't care at
- 16:02Speaker 3: all right now about the size of the rubs. A
- 16:05Speaker 3: big one's great, because that usually means you're not dealing
- 16:07Speaker 3: with a forky, but small rubs are important too. I've
- 16:10Speaker 3: watched a couple of really big deer make really small
- 16:14Speaker 3: rubs in my life, and I have found that they
- 16:16Speaker 3: just don't seem to make too many giant rubs early.
- 16:20Speaker 3: A lot of the rubs I find now are on
- 16:22Speaker 3: saplings that might be, I don't know, like an inch
- 16:24Speaker 3: in diameter. But that doesn't tell me how big the
- 16:27Speaker 3: bucks are that made them. What I do know is
- 16:29Speaker 3: that if I find and hunt rubs right now, regardless
- 16:32Speaker 3: of the size of the rubs, I find I'm often
- 16:35Speaker 3: in the running to shoot a mature buck. I think
- 16:38Speaker 3: big bucks rub early and more often than little ones.
- 16:41Speaker 3: And some of the research seems to back that up.
- 16:43Speaker 3: Either way, what I do know now is that you
- 16:46Speaker 3: can play the only hunt field edge evening game Or
- 16:49Speaker 3: you can go burn some boot leather and find some
- 16:52Speaker 3: fresh buck sign and then figure out if they should
- 16:55Speaker 3: be hunted in the morning or the evening or both.
- 16:58Speaker 3: And if you do that, you'll be doing something most
- 17:00Speaker 3: hunters won't. And that is often the biggest difference between
- 17:03Speaker 3: killing mature bucks and just watching squirrels. It's also a
- 17:07Speaker 3: hell of a lot of fun to play that chess
- 17:09Speaker 3: game with them right now. So give it a shot
- 17:12Speaker 3: and come back next week because I'm going to drop
- 17:13Speaker 3: another episode about how I look at my setups as
- 17:17Speaker 3: being killer setups. versus just setups that maybe won't produce
- 17:22Speaker 3: close shots. That's it for this week. I'm Tony Peterson.
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