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Teen Killer's Mom Jailed for Washing Jeans Worn During Murder · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Greece in the last Days.
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Speaker 2: In the murder case of Tristan Bailly, the gorgeous Florida
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Speaker 2: cheerleader found dead, we all know that teen boy Aiden
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Speaker 2: Fucci was convicted for murdering Billy on Mother's Day twenty one,
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Speaker 2: but Aiden Fuci's mother agreed to plead guilty for washing
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Speaker 2: the blood out of her son, Aiden Fuci's genes after
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Speaker 2: he murdered Tristan Billy. That's right, Crystal Smith, thirty seven,
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Speaker 2: pleads no contest to tampering with evidence. That's a third
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Speaker 2: degree felony. She'll go to yell, all right, but just
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Speaker 2: for thirty days followed by five years probation for intentionally
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Speaker 2: washing the blood out of her son's janes. Crystal Smith
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Speaker 2: has now been released now. According to Crystal Smith's lawyer,
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Speaker 2: Smith had no idea why her son's jeans were so
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Speaker 2: bloody when she washed them. Do you believe it?
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Speaker 1: I don't. What happened the night Tristan Bailly went missing.
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Speaker 3: Her body was found in a wooded area near her neighborhood.
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Speaker 3: The medical examiner says she was stabbed to debt.
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Speaker 4: Later that day, a jogger in the neighborhood found a
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Speaker 4: young girl's body bloody in the neighborhood's woods. The medical
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Speaker 4: examiner's report, released Wednesday, indicates Bailey had been stabbed one
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Speaker 4: hundred and fourteen times and had defensive wounds. That report
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Speaker 4: also revealed the suspected weapon, a knife, was found in
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Speaker 4: a pond only one hundred and forty feet from the body,
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Speaker 4: the knife missing its tip.
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Speaker 5: The tip found in Tristan's scalp.
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Speaker 2: The knife so violently used to murder this little cheerleader
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Speaker 2: just thirteen years old. The tip of the nine is
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Speaker 2: still embedded in her scalp and skull. Oh yeah, somebody
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Speaker 2: is going to jail. Guys, you were just listening to
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Speaker 2: our friend Jennifer Ready at First Coast and wj XT
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Speaker 2: News for Jacks. Let me introduce you an all star
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Speaker 2: panel joining us. First of all, you know him well,
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Speaker 2: A veteran defense attorney, Troy Slayton joining us out of
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Speaker 2: La Slayton Lawyers. Doctor Bethany Marshall, Psychoanalyst to the Stars,
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Speaker 2: joining us out of Hollywood. You can find her at
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Speaker 2: Dr Bethany Marshall dot com. Start a brand new series
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Speaker 2: on Netflix, Bleeding Empire. Doctor Tim Gallagher, the medical examiner
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Speaker 2: for the entire state of Florida at pathcaremed dot com.
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Speaker 2: Karen nel Smith joining me forensics expert, lecturer University Florida
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Speaker 2: and host of Shattered Souls podcast, but first to Ray Compute,
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Speaker 2: a lead news anchor Orlando Morning News at WDBO Ray
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Speaker 2: Compute Before you say a word, listen to.
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Speaker 6: This prevalence video spotted what appears to be Tristan Bailey
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Speaker 6: walking north from the Amenite He Center at one fourteen am.
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Speaker 6: Thirty one minutes later, two people are seen walking east
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Speaker 6: along Saddlestone Drive at one forty five am. One is
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Speaker 6: wearing shorts a HITDI and white shoes with a black
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Speaker 6: Nike logo, the other wearing black pants send a black shirt.
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Speaker 6: That same camera then capturing one person walking back west,
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Speaker 6: wearing shorts a Hitdie and this time carrying white shoes
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Speaker 6: with the black Nike logo. That was around three twenty
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Speaker 6: seven am. One hour forty two minutes later, police found
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Speaker 6: clothing with blood on it.
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Speaker 5: This video, at twelve fifteen am on May ninth, shows
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Speaker 5: two people believed to be teens walking east on Saddlestone Drive.
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Speaker 5: This was on Mother's Day. The same day, investigator say
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Speaker 5: Tristan Bailey was found dead. The Saint John's County Sheriff's
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Speaker 5: Office investigator say, this video shows Fucci running at one
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Speaker 5: fifty two in the morning, so over an hour after
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Speaker 5: two teens were spotted walking in the neighborhood.
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Speaker 2: Guys, you're hearing our friends at First Coast News and
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Speaker 2: WJXT News Jacks. You know the shadowy images caught on
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Speaker 2: a surveillance video shows the thirteen year old cheerleader Tristan
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Speaker 2: Bailey walking with another person. Then later you see a
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Speaker 2: young boy, Aiden Fushi at aged fourteen, running and you
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Speaker 2: also see someone matching the same outfit carrying a pair
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Speaker 2: of white Nike shoes. First of all, Ray Computo again,
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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us, WDBO. Where is thirteen
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Speaker 2: year old Tristan Bailey that evening? Where had she been?
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Speaker 7: Well, she was hanging out in her neighborhood in Durban
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Speaker 7: crossing Nancy. That's in Saint John's Forges, south of Jacksonville.
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Speaker 7: It's an upper middle c neighborhood and it was late
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Speaker 7: at night before any of this happened. But if you
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Speaker 7: wonder why a thirteen year old girl would be out
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Speaker 7: late at night, on a Saturday night. It was just
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Speaker 7: that type of neighborhood. It was tree lined, surveillance cameras everywhere.
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Speaker 7: I mean, people didn't anticipate problems there. It was in
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Speaker 7: Saint John's Ford, a beautiful place where a lot of
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Speaker 7: people were moving these days.
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Speaker 2: I understand Ray Computero, that there was like a community
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Speaker 2: center where they had been. Do you recall that, Jackie.
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Speaker 2: They all the teens, and we had one of those,
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Speaker 2: believe it or not, out in the middle of nowhere,
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Speaker 2: And when I was little, it seems so big. Now
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Speaker 2: I drive by it, I think, I can't believe that
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Speaker 2: was the huge community center. It's very small when I
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Speaker 2: look at it now. But we would have bands in
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Speaker 2: there and dance and play games and just all sorts
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Speaker 2: of fun, have Halloween carnivals inside, bobbing for apples, and
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Speaker 2: everybody would go there. And it's my understanding that Tristan
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Speaker 2: had been to a community center event with a whole
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Speaker 2: neighborhood and a lot of kids coming in and out
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Speaker 2: that night. This shadowy surveillance video we're seeing, where are
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Speaker 2: those cameras, Raykipudo.
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Speaker 7: Well, the surveillance video cameras you're seeing are actually doorbell cameras,
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Speaker 7: I believe are ones that are attached to homes. So
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Speaker 7: they're on these homes on saddle Stolen Court, so you're seeing,
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Speaker 7: you know, somebody's looking out their window. That's what they
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Speaker 7: may have seen at that time of night, in the
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Speaker 7: one o'clock hour.
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Speaker 2: So how in the world does a teen boy's mother
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Speaker 2: get tied into all of this. You've got a little
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Speaker 2: cheerleader aged thirteen stabbed about one hundred and fourteen times
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Speaker 2: to the tip of a knife in her skull. Now
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Speaker 2: you've got an unrelated teen boy's mother charged. Why Jackie,
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Speaker 2: please play the new sound.
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Speaker 8: We received a series of videos late this afternoon, including
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Speaker 8: those from inside Pooci's Durbin Crossing home, which show what
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Speaker 8: detectives say is Fucci's mom washing blood off of his jeans.
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Speaker 6: All your Side, Robert Bradfield is live tonight in the
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Speaker 6: newsroom looking through that video as prosecutors build a first
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Speaker 6: re murder case against the Saint John's County teenager. Robert
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Speaker 6: oh Good evening.
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Speaker 9: That video inside Fucci's home is about sixteen minutes long,
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Speaker 9: but we're going to show you just the first part,
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Speaker 9: which shows his mother, Crystal Smith, walking into an upstairs bathroom,
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Speaker 9: and that is where the state's attorney says Smith is
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Speaker 9: seen cleaning her son's bloody jeans. When officers went into
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Speaker 9: the home, they found a pair of wet jeans in
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Speaker 9: Fucci's bedroom, and, as we reported earlier this summer, the
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Speaker 9: jeans and a drain in a bathroom tested positive for blood.
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Speaker 9: Smith was arrested in June. She is charged with evidence tampering.
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Speaker 9: Now other video released today shows who detectives believe our
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Speaker 9: Fouci and Bailey walking in their neighborhood on the morning
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Speaker 9: of May ninth, the last time Bailey was seen alive.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Troy s Layton, veteran defense attorney, if mommy had
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Speaker 2: just thrown a lot of clothes into the wash, that
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Speaker 2: would have been one thing. Because I've actually thrown a shoe,
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Speaker 2: a cell phone, a coat, hangar into the washing machine
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Speaker 2: with no idea what I was doing. Okay, just like
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Speaker 2: Jodi Arius when she threw her did you cam in
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Speaker 2: there with accidental photos of the murder scene? I could
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Speaker 2: get that it's an accident, But for mommy to pick
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Speaker 2: up her son's blue jeans and then go in the
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Speaker 2: bathroom and wash the blood out by hand, good luck.
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Speaker 10: Slayton.
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Speaker 11: Well, I know, Nancy, when I was a kid and
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Speaker 11: I'd play some soccer and I'd roll on my knees
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Speaker 11: on the soccer field and big green stains would be
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Speaker 11: down my pants. Those wouldn't just come out in the
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Speaker 11: normal wash, and my mom, god bless her, would would
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Speaker 11: scrub those things to get those stains out. So maybe
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Speaker 11: she was just acting like a good man. Saw some
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Speaker 11: really dirty jeans, thinking that wouldn't come out in the
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Speaker 11: regular watch, and scrubbed them to make sure they got
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Speaker 11: to stain out. What we don't know is that the
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Speaker 11: mother knew that this was blood from a potential crime
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Speaker 11: scene and was intentionally trying to destroy evidence. That's what
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Speaker 11: we don't know.
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Speaker 2: How can I slice up everything? He just said, Jackie,
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Speaker 2: could you play that new sound one more time?
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Speaker 8: We received a series of videos late this afternoon, including
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Speaker 8: those from inside Poochie's Durbin crossing home, would show what
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Speaker 8: detectives say is Fucci's mom washing blood off of his jeans.
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Speaker 6: All your side. Robert Bradfield is live tonight in the newsroom.
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Speaker 6: Looking through that video. Was prosecutor's build a first remurder
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Speaker 6: case against the Saint John's County teenager.
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Speaker 9: Robert oh Good evening that video inside Fucci's home is
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Speaker 9: about sixteen minutes long, but we're going to show you
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Speaker 9: just the first part, which shows his mother, Crystal Smith,
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Speaker 9: walking into an upstairs bathroom, and that is where the
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Speaker 9: state's attorney says Smith is seen cleaning her son's bloody jeans.
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Speaker 9: When officers went into the home, they found a pair
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Speaker 9: of wet jeans in Fuci's bedroom, and, as we reported
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Speaker 9: earlier this summer, the jeans and a drain in a
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Speaker 9: bathroom tested positive for blood. Smith was arrested in June.
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Speaker 9: She is charged with evidence tampering.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Teen boy Aiden Fuci convicted in the murder of a
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Speaker 2: beautiful young girl.
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Speaker 1: But what does his mom have to do with that?
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Speaker 2: Well, believe it or not, they convicted teen killer's mother
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Speaker 2: behind bars. But why for washing the blood out of
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Speaker 2: her son, Aidan Fuci's jeans after he murdered Tristan Bailey. Uh.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall, I'd really like to see the timestamp
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Speaker 2: when mommy is cleaning the jeans and the bathroom. There's
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Speaker 2: no doubt she knew it was blood. Okay, because there's
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Speaker 2: still blood in the drain, and it's Tristan Bailey's blood,
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Speaker 2: the cheerleader's blood, so she knew it was blood. She
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Speaker 2: knew he had been out playing soccer the night before.
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Speaker 2: But Slayton has a valid point. But if she was
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Speaker 2: doing that at say, three o'clock in the morning, that's
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Speaker 2: extremely surreptitious, Bethany.
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Speaker 10: Nancy, Let's look at it this way. This is not
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Speaker 10: the first time mommy has tried to cover up bad
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Speaker 10: acts that her son whoci has undertaken. You know, mothers
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Speaker 10: know their son. You know your son, you know your daughter,
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Speaker 10: you know their character, you know what they're capable.
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Speaker 2: Of, Anthony, you darn't right, go ahead.
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Speaker 10: Do you know who their friends are? You know whether
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Speaker 10: or not to let them have sleep at certain people's houses.
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Speaker 10: He is a young tween, he's barely a teenager. He's
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Speaker 10: out at this community center until I think it's three
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Speaker 10: forty in the morning. Mommy has to be aware that
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Speaker 10: her son is just a little bit strange. Okay, So
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Speaker 10: I don't think it's a good thing that mother is
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Speaker 10: watching blood off of her son's jeans, And what she
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Speaker 10: should be doing, if she's a good mom, is sitting
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Speaker 10: down with him and saying, where did this blood come from?
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Speaker 10: What were you doing out till three forty in the morning.
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Speaker 10: What was going on at that community center? She should
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Speaker 10: be parenting him, not covering up for him.
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Speaker 2: You know, another issue I'm gonna throw to you. Then
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Speaker 2: I'll circle back to Karen Smith and doctor Tim Gallagher.
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Speaker 2: Dr Bethany, let me go to Rakipedo first. I also
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Speaker 2: learned that, according to documents that we've just gotten our
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Speaker 2: hands on, one of eight and fifty fourteen's female friends
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Speaker 2: tells police he frequently he talked about killing people, that
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Speaker 2: he would take his knife out and pretend to stab
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Speaker 2: her with it, and that he would draw graphic pictures
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Speaker 2: of depicting mutilated bodies. You forgotten to mention that breaking mudo.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you know some people like their guns, Nancy.
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Speaker 7: This kid liked knives. One of his friends even said
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Speaker 7: that he had a nickname for his knife. He called
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Speaker 7: them picker and poker, and the white stopped actually.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, binking from the fire hydrant too much, too fast.
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Speaker 2: I got to write that down. He named his.
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Speaker 7: Knives, Yes, ma'am, picker and poker.
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Speaker 2: Are you saying picker and poker Okay, I'm sure we'll
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Speaker 2: need to bring the shrink in on that. Go ahead.
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Speaker 2: Named his knives picker and poker. Did you know that
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Speaker 2: I didn't know that, go ahead? Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Well, I mean this kid liked his knives. They found
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Speaker 7: many more in his home. To eightent Futy clearly had
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Speaker 7: a thing for sharp objects. Nancy talked about killing people
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Speaker 7: he collected knives. I mean, talk about the writing being
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Speaker 7: on the wall.
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Speaker 2: You know what, It is just so ironic that when
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Speaker 2: we throw around the phrase the writing is on the wall,
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Speaker 2: that actually came from the Old Testament, and now it's
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Speaker 2: being used rightfully, so, Raycipudo, in the gruesome murder of
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Speaker 2: a thirteen year old little girl, This little girl was
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Speaker 2: stabbed one hundred and fourteen times with a knife tip
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Speaker 2: still in her skull, Raycipudo, Wdbo. That's not all that
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Speaker 2: was found in the home of the Bloody Clothes. I
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Speaker 2: understand that the cops recovered a notebook filled with violent
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Speaker 2: drawings of women, including a woman with red exs on
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Speaker 2: her breasts and severed arms with blood pouring out.
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Speaker 7: Oh that's correct, Nancy. I mean, this kid had some
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Speaker 7: really disturbing things going through his head and it makes
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Speaker 7: you wonder getting back to the my eye. She was
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Speaker 7: so interested in helping him out after he got in trouble.
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Speaker 7: But again, how can you not notice that this is
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Speaker 7: your child and all these things are going on in
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Speaker 7: their lives. He had the knives, he had the drawings.
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Speaker 7: He was even telling people about what he did here,
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Speaker 7: what was going to do. He was clearly a disturbed
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Speaker 7: young man who needed help, and he was crying out
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Speaker 7: for quite a bit of time. But those cries didn't
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Speaker 7: go answered Rakopeta.
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Speaker 2: I hardly think that naming your nice picker and poker
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Speaker 2: and drawing mitilighted women and keeping the drawings in your room,
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Speaker 2: I would call that the devil uh evil, hate, misogyny,
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Speaker 2: and I think he knew exactly what he was doing.
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Speaker 2: I really don't know which way to go, but thankfully
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Speaker 2: I've got a panel of experts. Dr Bethany, do not
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Speaker 2: start up second verse same as the first. But he's insane.
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Speaker 2: If he were insane, he would not know to run
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Speaker 2: away and lie.
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Speaker 10: Well, thank god, Nancy. Sociopathy, which this young man surely
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Speaker 10: suffers from, is a personality disorder, not a psychiatric disorder,
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Speaker 10: meaning that it affects it's an affliction of the mind,
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Speaker 10: not the brain, So certainly he knew right from wrong, Nancy.
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Speaker 10: This is a budding serial killer in the making. You know,
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Speaker 10: the love for the knives, picker and poker, the drawing
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Speaker 10: of the woman with the red xes on her breast,
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Speaker 10: dissevered arms this guy got. This young man derived great
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Speaker 10: thrill and satisfaction from thinking about stabbing and dismembering. And
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Speaker 10: you know, mothers fall into two categories when it comes
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Speaker 10: to having a child like this. The first category is
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Speaker 10: a mother who knows there's a problem and seeks help,
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Speaker 10: gets a psychiatrist and a psychologist, gets social services, and
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Speaker 10: wants to help their son have a better life. And
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Speaker 10: the second category we see all too often is the
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Speaker 10: mother who aids and a bets the child, covers up,
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Speaker 10: looks the other way, will do anything to save the child,
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Speaker 10: even if it means that there are other victims out
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Speaker 10: there in society. And surely, surely this mother falls into
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Speaker 10: the second category. With washing the blood off her son's genes.
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Speaker 10: This mother knew what was happening, Nancy, She saw this
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Speaker 10: all unfolding for a long long time. Why does she
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Speaker 10: even let him out in the community past midnight?
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Speaker 2: To doctor Tim Gallagher, a medical examiner for the state
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Speaker 2: of Florida. This occurred in Florida, Saint John's County. Doctor Gallagher,
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Speaker 2: would you explain what happened to this thirteen year old
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Speaker 2: little girl because we're talking a lot about what may
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Speaker 2: or may not be going through the mind of her killer. Well,
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Speaker 2: what about her? What happened to her?
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Speaker 12: Well, first of all, I don't want w too mentioned
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Speaker 12: that doctor Bulick in Saint John's County, which is District
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Speaker 12: twenty three in Florida, is probably one of the most
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Speaker 12: intelligent positions that we have in the state. He is
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Speaker 12: Yale educated and trained in Fort Lauderdale. Wonderful, wonderful man.
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Speaker 12: But going getting back to her.
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Speaker 2: What was his name?
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Speaker 12: Bulick?
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Speaker 10: B U l I C.
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Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead. So you've got a great you've got
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Speaker 2: a great doctor on the case. Go ahead.
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Speaker 12: Wonderful, wonderful man. I can't say enough about him. But
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Speaker 12: getting back to her, you know, so initially, you know,
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Speaker 12: there was the surprise of the stabbing. I'm sure there
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Speaker 12: was an argument leading up to it. But when the
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Speaker 12: I don't know about that.
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Speaker 2: I don't know about that, doctor Gallagher, because this was
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Speaker 2: not boyfriend girlfriend. They were just you know, in the
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Speaker 2: same gray. They knew each other, there was no romantic
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Speaker 2: interest like that. They had an argument, So I don't
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Speaker 2: know if there was an argument or if he led
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Speaker 2: her out there in order to kill her. I mean
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Speaker 2: he had a knife with him, but that said go ahead, right.
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Speaker 12: But you can see there was a struggle that she
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Speaker 12: had defensive wounds on her forearms, and what defensive wounds
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Speaker 12: are is she was actually holding up her arms to
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Speaker 12: defend herself against the knife and he was splashing at
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Speaker 12: her arms on her Foremah.
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Speaker 2: I got to tell you something, doctor, I just saw
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Speaker 2: out of the corner of my eye. I wanted to
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Speaker 2: do it myself as you were talking. But Jackie here,
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Speaker 2: as you were saying, held her hands up like that.
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Speaker 2: How many times have I done that in front of
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Speaker 2: a jury when you say defensive wounds, trying to cover
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Speaker 2: your face or your body. And this little thirteen year
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Speaker 2: old girl, as doctor Tim Gallagher is telling us, was
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Speaker 2: covered in defensive wounds trying to save her life.
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Speaker 12: Right, So she was conscious and aware of what was
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Speaker 12: going on at that point. You know, she knew at
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Speaker 12: that point she was spending for her life. But eventually
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Speaker 12: she became overpowered and these stab wounds to her head. Oftentimes,
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Speaker 12: if the knife is sufficient, will penetrate through the skull
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Speaker 12: and into the brain, and we see that could have
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Speaker 12: been the case here when a tip of the knife
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Speaker 12: broke off and lodged itself into the skull. So she
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Speaker 12: may have died from the brain injury, or she may
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Speaker 12: have had other stab wounds on her chest organs that
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Speaker 12: being the heart and the lungs. Either way, it was
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Speaker 12: a very protracted assault and had gone on for at
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Speaker 12: least a minute or two.
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Speaker 2: Karen Nelsmith joining me, forensics expert lecturing University Florida and
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Speaker 2: host off Shattered Souls podcast. You've seen the homicides as well,
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Speaker 2: agree or disagree and why I do.
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Speaker 13: I've seen it. Unfortunately, just like doctor Gallagher said, it
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Speaker 13: does happen, whether or not it's a rage or like
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Speaker 13: you said, a sexual release, whatever the motivation is. Multiple
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Speaker 13: stabbings are more common than a single stabbing. And Nancy,
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Speaker 13: there's something that I need to talk about regarding not
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Speaker 13: only what Troy Slayton said, but what everybody else has
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Speaker 13: been saying about these genes. Mommy can try to clean
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Speaker 13: them all she wants, but they tested positive for blood,
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Speaker 13: and that tells me they did a simple color test
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Speaker 13: after a visual inspection the blood was still on those pants. Now,
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Speaker 13: if the blood was still on the pants, there's a
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Speaker 13: possibility that patterns can still be discerned even after they've
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Speaker 13: been cleaned. If that blood was allowed to dry on
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Speaker 13: the fabric first, and if there were small blood droplets
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Speaker 13: on those genes, that puts the wearer, which would be
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Speaker 13: Aiden Pucci, and close proximity to the victim time the
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Speaker 13: crime was committed. It is absolute, one hundred percent proof
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Speaker 13: that he was there, that the blood broke up into
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Speaker 13: droplets while he was there. It can also help position
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Speaker 13: him over the victim. His DNA was found on her body,
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Speaker 13: which means he probably injured himself since he used the knife.
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Speaker 13: That's very common as well. So I just want to
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Speaker 13: command the Saint John Sheriff of Saint John's County Sheriff's
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Speaker 13: Office for their wonderful work on this.
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Speaker 2: They really did a great job processing this, plus finding
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Speaker 2: the weapon as well. Guys, there's more. Take a listen
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Speaker 2: to our cut twenty five. This is Heather Crawford, First Coastnies.
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Speaker 3: So let's talk more about these new documents. They were
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Speaker 3: also shedding light on the night Aidan Foochi and his
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Speaker 3: parents were inside of an interrogation room after Tristan Bailey's
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Speaker 3: body was discovered. Aiden's parents questioned him with no detectives
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Speaker 3: in the room but the audio and video devices they
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Speaker 3: were rolling. According to the report, his mother told him
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Speaker 3: that Bailey was found in their neighborhood. The report says
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Speaker 3: Aiden then asked, is she good? The mother's response, no,
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Speaker 3: she's dead. It's all on you right now. The report says,
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Speaker 3: Aiden asked, how is it my problem? They reportedly said
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Speaker 3: because he was the last one seen with her. The
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Speaker 3: report also says the mother asked where Bailey went after
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Speaker 3: they parted, and Boucci stated that she probably kept walking.
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Speaker 3: His father asked, according to the report, he didn't turn
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Speaker 3: around to see where she went, and he replied no now.
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Speaker 3: According to the report, Aiden's parents told him to find
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Speaker 3: his story and stick to it. He was arrested at
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Speaker 3: three point thirty the next morning. His mother, Crystal Smith,
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Speaker 3: would later be arrested accused of tampering with evidence in
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Speaker 3: this case.
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Speaker 2: Troy Slayton joined me La veteran criminal defense attorney. Slayton
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Speaker 2: Lawyers APC Troy. So the recording devices are still rolling,
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Speaker 2: and this Aid and future h fourteen says, how's that's
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Speaker 2: my problem when they tell him Tristan is found dead.
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Speaker 11: So, firstly, there is no parent child confidentiality privilege known
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Speaker 11: to the law. So although they may have thought that
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Speaker 11: they were speaking privately, the parents and the child suspect,
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Speaker 11: the police were perfectly in their right to be recording
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Speaker 11: inside that police interrogation room. And so anything that he
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Speaker 11: said to his mom and dad can be used against him.
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Speaker 11: And even though he would say to his parents and
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Speaker 11: he's probably experienced in deflecting his parents off of things
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Speaker 11: that he's done wrong over his past fourteen years, that
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Speaker 11: doesn't protect him in this case.
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Speaker 2: I want to get your thinking, doctor Bethany Marshall, of
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Speaker 2: what you have heard audio recording that we've gotten of
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Speaker 2: the parents talking to fourteen year old Aid and.
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Speaker 10: Fuci Well, I think this is not their first rodeo.
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Speaker 10: I think he's done all kinds of things that they
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Speaker 10: have aided embedded in covering up. Maybe not a homicide.
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Speaker 10: Maybe this is the first catastrophic violation of the law
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Speaker 10: he's done, But I'm sure there's been lesser infractions. I'm
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Speaker 10: sure he has tortured animals, gotten bad grades, hit people,
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Speaker 10: poked at people, maybe stabbed people, even in a non
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Speaker 10: homicidal way, but in a threatening way. So these parents
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Speaker 10: are well skilled and well schooled and covering up for
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Speaker 10: their child. And Troy Slaken said something I think is
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Speaker 10: so fascinating, and we see this with parents, is that
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Speaker 10: from the time where children are born us how to
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Speaker 10: accommodate to them. They teach us how to cover up.
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Speaker 10: They also teach us that we can't look past their
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Speaker 10: flaws and we have to take the hard rolls road
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Speaker 10: of reprimanding them and punishing them and disciplining them to
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Speaker 10: make them better human beings. And if this young man
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Speaker 10: was born as associopath, he really needed his parents to
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Speaker 10: discipline him and to try to override those tendencies. And
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Speaker 10: apparently he just never got the memo.
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Speaker 2: Well, doctor Bethany, I want you to hear something, and
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Speaker 2: that is how this guy, Aidan Fuci behaved in the
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Speaker 2: cop car. Take a listen to our cut twenty seven
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Speaker 2: our friends at Action Needs Jacksonville News.
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Speaker 14: Snapchat videos show Fuci in the back of the cop
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Speaker 14: car before he was a suspect.
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Speaker 5: Golf cars when you see this in a month.
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Speaker 14: Another video from inside Fuci's home appears to show his
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Speaker 14: mother cleaning the genes police say Aiden wore the night
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Speaker 14: of the murder. She's been charged for tampering with evidence
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Speaker 14: to those Genes. Investigators say both the Jenes and the
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Speaker 14: sink she washed them in tested positive for blood.
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Speaker 2: Not only that in that cop car, he made a
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Speaker 2: statement having fun in an efing cop car. This guy
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Speaker 2: is in the back of the car mocking everything and
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Speaker 2: everybody I'm having found in an effing cock car. And
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Speaker 2: then he makes some comment like, hey, anybody's seen Tristan,
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Speaker 2: She's dead.
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Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: After Tristan Bailey went missing that night, Aiden Fuchi even
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Speaker 2: volunteered to show sheriff and deputies where he had last
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Speaker 2: seen his little middle school classmate. What happened the night
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Speaker 2: Justin Bailey went missing? I mean, it is argued amongst
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Speaker 2: many legal eagles choice Lighton that his sick selfie in
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Speaker 2: a cup car shows that he's actually proud of murdering
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Speaker 2: cheerleader Justin Biley.
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Speaker 11: To me, Nancy, it shows the elements of not guilty
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Speaker 11: by reason of insanity, which in Florida uses the McNaughton rule.
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Speaker 11: If I were to use the evidence from the medical
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Speaker 11: examiner on this show and the testimony of doctor Bethany
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Speaker 11: Marshall from this show, we clearly establish, by clear and
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Speaker 11: convincing evidence that he was not guilty by reason of
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Speaker 11: insanity at the time that he committed this act.
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Speaker 2: Well, I couldn't disagree more because he he is in
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Speaker 2: a cop car saying, hey, guys, has anybody seen Tristan
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Speaker 2: Lightley shooting a peace sign, having fun in a cop car,
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Speaker 2: being a snarky brat.
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Speaker 11: That's iBOT somebody one hundred and fourteen times running from
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Speaker 11: the crime scene, throwing a knife into the water.
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Speaker 2: And then why do you think you threw the knife
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Speaker 2: in the water, Troy so nobody could find it? Why
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Speaker 2: is that because it's a murder weapon with his blood
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Speaker 2: on it.
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Speaker 11: But brings the sheath home, but comes home and just throws.
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Speaker 2: Away the murder weapon. And the only one Annel that
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Speaker 2: believes that shows evidence of guilt. I mean, someone jump in, Nancy.
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Speaker 10: He knew what he was doing, and mocking Tristan from
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Speaker 10: the police car is the same mo as the murder.
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Speaker 10: We were talking about it earlier in the show that
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Speaker 10: he wanted to triumph over her control her. He likely
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Speaker 10: got sexual satisfaction from killing her. I doubt this was
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Speaker 10: a frustrated rage. I think he was romancing the idea
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Speaker 10: of killing somebody for a long long time. I think
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Speaker 10: his family knew that. I think it was sexually exciting
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Speaker 10: to him. That's why he had the red crosses over
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Speaker 10: the woman's breasts and her arms severed. You know, he's
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Speaker 10: going to disable her so he can rape her.
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Speaker 2: That's what that filter is all about.
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Speaker 10: Well, you know that's what we call Troy. We call
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Speaker 10: the lingering. It's when you make up a fictitious illness
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Speaker 10: to look ill when you're not got.
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Speaker 2: More for you, guys. That bears on State as Mine.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen to our cut twenty six. This is
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Speaker 2: Danny Bozini Action News jacks.
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Speaker 14: New evidence giving us a glimpse into the moments before
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Speaker 14: and after love Thirteen year old Tristan Bailey was brutally murdered.
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Speaker 14: Please say, in this video, Kristen is walking with her
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Speaker 14: accused killer, fourteen year old Aiden Fuci, just after midnight Sunday,
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Speaker 14: May ninth, Mother's Day. Ninety minutes later, another surveillance video
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Speaker 14: shows Fuci running in the opposite direction with what appears.
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Speaker 2: To be his shoes in hand.
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Speaker 14: The State Attorney's office releasing another clip timestamped at three
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Speaker 14: point thirty am that same morning, you can see Fuci
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Speaker 14: walking up to his home, heading to the front door,
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Speaker 14: and going inside. Fuci initially told investigators that he left
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Speaker 14: a friend's house with Tristan and they walked together until
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Speaker 14: she turned onto her street. That story changed a few
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Speaker 14: more times. Okay, let me capsulize this, Karen Smith. We've
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Speaker 14: got him running from the scene, carrying his shoes that
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Speaker 14: were likely bloody, throwing away the murder weapon, slowing down
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Speaker 14: when he gets to his own home, walking in, chaining
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Speaker 14: his story multiple times, and continuing to lie about it
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Speaker 14: to me. All of that shows he knew what he
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Speaker 14: did was wrong.
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Speaker 2: And that is as Troy Slayton throws around the technical
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Speaker 2: turn the McNaughton tiss, it's very simple. Did you know
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Speaker 2: right from wrong at the time of the incident. It
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Speaker 2: shows me that's right, evidence of guilt, hiding, running, destroying evidence.
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Speaker 13: That's right. And guess what found found found knife was
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Speaker 13: found one hundred and forty feet away. The shoes were
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Speaker 13: found in his room likely bloody, that's why he was
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Speaker 13: carrying them. They found his gene, they found his clothes,
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Speaker 13: they found her DNA all over it, They found blood pattern,
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Speaker 13: they found his DNA on her body. They found the
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Speaker 13: tip of the knife embedded in her skull. Every single step,
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Speaker 13: every single thing that has been seen in the forensics
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Speaker 13: of this case shows me that he he had a premeditated,
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Speaker 13: murderous mind and he knew what he did was wrong.
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Speaker 13: He's running from the crime scene with evidence in his hands.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Tim Gallagher joining me out of Florida Medical Examiner
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Speaker 2: Dodger Gallagher. So he throws the murder weapon into a
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Speaker 2: body of water. How can they still get both his
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Speaker 2: and her DNA off the murder weapon.
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Speaker 12: Well, that's a really good question. You know, water does
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Speaker 12: tend to degrade DNA, So if they recovered it very quickly,
33:32
Speaker 12: then it would certainly be possible, especially if not only
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Speaker 12: blood was on it, but the flesh of the victim
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Speaker 12: and flesh of the assailant was on there. Then DNA
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Speaker 12: could be recovered from that quickly.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, Noise, I have to jump in here. There was
33:47
Speaker 13: another case out of Jacksonville, the Cherish Perrywinkle case. Where
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Speaker 13: one of my coworkers recovered a entire full thirteen LOKI
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Speaker 13: profiles from Cherish Perrywinkles after she was submerged in water,
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Speaker 13: So it is absolutely possible to find both steps of
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Speaker 13: DNA on that murder weapon.
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Speaker 2: After Tristan Bailly went missing that night, Aiden Fuci even
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Speaker 2: volunteered to show sheriff's deputies where he had last seen
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Speaker 2: his little middle school classmate, and it was there. Home
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Speaker 2: surveillance video picks up his mother picking up a pair
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Speaker 2: of blue jeans from her son's room, then scrubbing them
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Speaker 2: in a bathroom sink. Tristan Billy's mom, Stacy Billy, said,
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Speaker 2: in a very emotional victim impact statement, the choices the
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Speaker 2: mom Crystal Smith made back on Mother's Day twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: one quote will haunt me for the rest of my life.
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Speaker 2: She went on to say, I've tried to put myself
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Speaker 2: in your shoes on that fateful day a thousand times,
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Speaker 2: but I can't. She says, the damage you caused by
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Speaker 2: your actions will forever be etched in our lives. The
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Speaker 2: judge in the court room described Tristan's horrific injuries, including
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Speaker 2: forty nine defensive wounds, and thirty five wounds to the
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Speaker 2: little girl's head and neck, twenty nine wounds to her
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Speaker 2: shoulders and back. What was so upsetting to many is
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Speaker 2: that Tristan Bailly was conscious, She was aware, and she
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Speaker 2: was doing everything she could to fend off the attack.
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Speaker 2: When the family spoke, they pointed out that Tristan suffered
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Speaker 2: a painful, horrifying death from someone she trusted, that her
35:50
Speaker 2: screams were most likely stifled by her own suffocating lungs.
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Speaker 2: The attack was so violent the tip of the hunting
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Speaker 2: knife future Ye used to murder her broke off in
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Speaker 2: her skull. The judge noted that the crime had no motive.
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Speaker 2: He the judge says, quote, there was no reason. There
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Speaker 2: was no purpose. It was done for no other reason
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Speaker 2: than to satisfy this defendant's internal desire to feel what
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Speaker 2: it was like to kill someone. Convict to kill her.
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Speaker 2: Aidan Fucci's own mother sentence for tampering with evidence and
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Speaker 2: cheerleader Tristan Bailey's horrific murder Crystal Smith has now been released.
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace crime story signing off Goodbye Friend,