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How Should You Collect? MidLife Card Chase- Episode #2 · Sports Card Clubhouse

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the midlife car chase. David Chase.
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We are back Round 2 episode 2. How are you doing?
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I'm great. I mean, what was that that we
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just saw there? Look at how professional we are,
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Greg. The production team has been
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firing on all cylinders. We have a new intro, we have a
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new outro. I mean we are like we're legit
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bro. Yeah, we're like a real thing
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now. I'm impressed.
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Yeah, we're we're legit. There's no doubt about it.
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There's another thing that that's been happening because in
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the last episode there was a lot of call outs and one of the call
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outs was about us becoming the number one show.
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So I just wanted to give an update on our first episode
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together. Wait, before you show and before
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you show that you said to me, we're going to have low ratings
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at the beginning because nobody knows you.
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And that's going to take us about six months to get to where
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we want to be, right? Yeah, but then I realized that
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you're a silver haired fox and everybody would want to see us.
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Yeah, right. So the chase effect is in full
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effect if we look here at the ratings from our last week's
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episodes. OK, we've got the midlife card
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chase episode 1 that went on May 5th where surface issues Episode
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34 that was three days prior and has 19 fewer views as of this
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morning. I mean the only way I can figure
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is it is the chase effect. I mean, it's not.
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Is that an industry term? The chase effect I.
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I think it's becoming one. I mean, I think it's pretty
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awesome that we have a lot of people that ended up liking us.
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So that's the flagship show that we were against.
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So for that week we were the number one show on the network.
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Is that correct? No, that's not correct.
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And you weren't even supposed to say anything else.
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We were see the the the shtick was supposed to end right there.
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And you what you did is you blew it.
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I've taught you show. I've taught our show in Pryor
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where we the number one show for the week.
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There were only two. Well, yes, we were.
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I guess technically we were. That doesn't sound like you were
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too excited about it. All right, so.
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There was another show that had another host on the channel and
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a guy with a nickname after a something that you prepared tea
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in and that did really well. It did better than any of the
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other shows, but I mean whatever.
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All right, so so we beat the flagship show, right, So we
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became number one. And then he I mean, first of
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all, when you guys were mentioning the new shows that he
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was going to have junk wax Mike, I was expected to be Billy
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Bob's, you know, show that he does in his basement.
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I mean T pod who's on like the number one?
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How can we compete with this T pod who's on the number one show
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on basically YouTube show for card content?
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And then the other person is Chris Sewell, who's probably
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number 2IN card content. So all right, we're going to
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have a little bit of work ahead of us.
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I've got David Chase of Sports Cards Live, so you need to just
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relax. OK, now I have another
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announcement to make. OK, this is this.
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This is also very exciting stuff.
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We already have a sponsor for our show.
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After one. Show after one show, Auction
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Wire and Auction Wire is officially the sponsor of
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Midlife Card Chase from this point forward until, you know,
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they decide they're not interested.
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But after one show, we have a sponsor and we're the number one
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show of the two shows that we're actually paying attention to for
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that particular week only. So if you're not familiar with
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Auction Wire, I want to show, I want to actually, I want to
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share this because this actually has something to do with what
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our main topic is today. Auction Wire is a great, it
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really is a great tool. Auction Wire dot AI you can get
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a 60 day free trial using the promo code midlife.
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Now using that promo code also helps us because then they say,
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well, where did they hear about it?
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They use the promo code midlife and so then then they say, oh,
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well, that's that's midlife. That's the code from midlife
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card chase. So that is a good thing to do.
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What do you before we take a look closer at Auction Wire, you
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know, you now? No, Leighton, who's one of the
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owners of Auction Wire. I would I would probably go so
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far as to say that you're friends with Leighton and
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believes in us and our show along with his partner Mark.
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I mean, we've got to be feeling pretty good right now.
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I do. I don't think my dad even
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believes in this show. So for Layton to believe in it,
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I'm very impressed that he is after one episode.
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I hope Layton, you know, that I can be a little sometimes
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inappropriate and put my foot in my mouth.
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So hopefully you signed a very long term deal, Greg, so we can
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make sure that even if I, if I put my foot in my mouth, they're
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locked in. Now I'm going to I'm going to
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demonstrate, I'm going to show you auction wire here real quick
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and I'm not going to use it yet, but I'm going to use it in a few
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minutes once we start talking about our topic because it
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directly plays in and how you can use it directly plays in to
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what what we're going to be talking about today.
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And you know, I will say that, you know, some people have heard
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about auction wire, some people have gotten into the weeds on,
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you know, what they've done or what they've, they maybe they
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tried it early on. Things have changed a lot. 1 of
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the things that has happened is they're starting to get some of
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the biggest dealers inventory in their search history.
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So when you browse, you're not just browsing Rea auctions and
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and eBay auctions and you know, CIA auctions, you're now a
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result could be, you know, ash of legacy cards.
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His inventory is is coming up in searches.
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Another big dealer is Tony E*Trade.
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Tony E*Trade stuff is about to start showing up in the search
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history. So it's literally quickly
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becoming a one stop shop on how to find stuff.
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And again, we'll talk about it. I'll I'll show you in a quick
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demonstration how I was using it earlier this week.
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That said, we do have a topic that we want to talk about and
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we're going to get into it and it's not all going to be about
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snack food and Oreos. And I don't know if you saw my
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video, we're recording this early, this we're recording this
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way ahead of time just for schedule's sake.
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But my video today I, I did my first taste test on the channel.
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Did you see it? I did.
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I thought you just said we're not talking about food and now
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you're talking about food at the same.
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Time. I know, I know.
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I'm just saying I can't help myself, so all right.
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I did. He gets credit.
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Yes, You ended up giving you a very good idea of the greatest
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of the greatest of the Oreo eating.
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So watch Greg's video. It's good.
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It's good. Yeah.
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All right. So our topic and this came up
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organically because, you know, this is not just a show where
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you and I, you know, try to produce something interesting.
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This is just basically we're, we're taking our own
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conversation and we're just recording it of things that
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we're talking about anyways. And the other day we were
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talking about a topic and what happened was we said, wait, we
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should talk about that would be an interesting show.
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So let's not talk about this because that would be a a fun
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show. So it's literally something that
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just came up organically. Do you want to tell people kind
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of how that happened or your recollection of of how that all
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came up? Yeah, I mean, so this also kind
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of talks about how I use auction wire.
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I look at every leaf card. I love the 48 leaf set and it's
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for most of my collection. I've always been what Joe Bro,
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The Heart of Sports Cars Live has come up with the term a
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flight collector, which is like a flight of beer, right When you
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end up going to one of those restaurants, you get a flight of
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multiple different versions. I love that.
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That kind of really represents me because I like to have a
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couple of each set or of each player.
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I don't need to have a whole run.
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I don't need to have a whole set 99% of the time also so if I'm
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collecting the dandies, I like mantle, feller and dobie.
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I don't need the other however meant there are to complete the
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set because those other cards don't mean the same to me.
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And I don't feel like I need to finish a set for me to be
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fulfilled in the hobby. And the only way way that I feel
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a little different about that is I love 48 leaf.
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I just love it. It is my favorite set of all
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time. It will always be my favorite
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set. There's nothing that will ever
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overtake it for for sports cards.
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But even on that set, I don't collect the common players.
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I've my way of thinking in my head is as a flight is I've only
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collected hall of farmers. And you know, some Hall of
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farmers are a lot more popular than others.
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And I was just kind of going through them.
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And by the way, it's been my lifelong mission for me to
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upgrade those cards, not by numbers on the slab, but just by
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how they look, right? I want them to be perfectly
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centered, which are so hard to find.
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And I constantly have one in my collection.
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I find another which like I'm on auction wire and I, I literally
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have seen every leaf card that has come on the market over the
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last couple of years through every auction house.
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I'm not. I'm just fanatical.
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Fanatical. I'm trying to use other words.
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Yeah, so, OK, so let's back up just a little bit.
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Now, a second ago you said the D&D you you need, you want the
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mantle, you want the feller and you want the dobie.
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You didn't mention like Monty Irvin, 'cause there are other
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Hall of Farmers in there. But then you said, but with the
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leaf you want all the Hall of Farmers.
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So being a flight collector sometimes is a Hall of Fame
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player run within it and sometimes it's even more
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condensed than that. Is that right?
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Yes. But I, I, I don't usually have
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rules like that, but for some reason in the 48 Leafs that I've
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made a rule and I don't really know why I did that.
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So do you remember how this came up?
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Do you remember what question I asked you?
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I said why? OK.
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What was the question? You are asking me because I love
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the short print leaf cards. I love them and again I don't
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need all the short print leaf cards.
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I just want the Hall of Fame short print leaf cards, which is
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like Kel Neuhauser Anus Slaughter page, which I don't
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have, Bob Feller and Larry Dobie.
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I love those cards. And you know what?
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Ana Slaughter is not Larry Dobie, right?
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But at the same time, it still really means something to me.
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And you asked me why. Why do you care so much when I
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know when you were thinking that some of those cards are
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obnoxiously more expensive for an Ana Slaughter card?
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Why do you need to have that? Why do you feel the need when
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you don't feel that way about any other set?
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Is that pretty much how you felt like the conversation?
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Went yeah, but can we back up for a second?
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Yeah. Pronounce that player's name
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again. The guy with the last name
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Slaughter. Say his first name one more time
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for me. Anus anus, anus slaughter.
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Isn't it Enos slaughter? Enos Enos anus.
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No Enos slaughter. Enos.
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You said anus slaughter like 5 times and I'm like I don't know
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if that's a SoCal dialect or something but.
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No it's not. I just don't know his.
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Name Anus Anus Slaughter. Well, the one of the reasons why
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I don't like that guy, OK, And that's why I'm not going to
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figure out what his name. Is Anus anus?
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Yeah. Why?
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Why Anus is annoying to me is 'cause I mean, wasn't he like
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the known racist that spiked Jackie Robinson?
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That guy. I should know that.
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I don't know that for sure. So that's quite a claim to make
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without being positive and certain about it.
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We can definitely find that out here in a minute because
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otherwise in the comments we will get overwhelmed with
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comments about how could you not know that so.
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I think he was a good old boy, a good old boy racist.
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And so I don't really how you were talking about this
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character matter, right? Yeah.
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Does character matter? Not in that card.
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I, I, I don't really care about him as a player, but I like that
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card because it's a very, very tough card to get.
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It's hard to get it to look relatively nice.
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And I love my copy of it. It's a Hall of Famer.
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It's part of the leaf set. And by the way, these, these
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special, these short print leaf cards, there's only like
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anywhere from 180 to 280 of them in existence.
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So they're just very, very tough to find, especially for leaf
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collectors like one of the whole set.
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I mean, there's less than 300 people in the world that can
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even collect a set like that. So it's kind of special in that
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way now. I have confirmed that Jackie's
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rookie season, about four months into the season, he did, in
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fact, spike Jackie's ankle. Yeah, I, I I don't know why.
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I I guess I knew that he got spiked and there was this kind
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of famous thing. I guess I didn't remember that
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he was the one that did it. OK, let's now, conversely, you
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said to me, well, but Greg, you, you collect that pirate set.
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And if you collect the pirate set, I mean, Blackbeard is like
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the the pirate that people know of.
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So why do you collect the other ones?
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It so what's the point of collecting the other ones 'cause
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I was basically badgering you and saying do you really want to
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spend that much money on on Enos Slaughter and Lou Boudreau And
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again, good players and and cool cards.
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But but I was just like, 'cause I know like Chris from Missouri,
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he's been like just desperate to add which one is the 1 he wants.
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That's he wants Anos. And he wants Enos slaughter.
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And so I was like, why not just sell it to Chris?
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Like, why do you need that card so much?
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And and you, you were kind. And and then we're like, let's
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talk about this, because I then later I I guess it was earlier
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this week, as we're recording this, I was talking about in a
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video or maybe it was over the weekend.
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I was talking about like I was like a player run collector cuz
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I felt like, well that's what you're supposed to do.
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Like if you collect auto Graham cards, you should collect all of
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the auto Graham cards. You shouldn't just collect some
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of them. And then some of them I don't
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really like. And I was like, I would rather
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have money to spend on other things that I do like than that
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card that I don't really like just cuz it's like a part of the
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group and so. But isn't that what a set is?
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A set is just a group, and you're really not caring about
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each card individually, which both you and I don't really
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collect in that way. But these are extreme examples
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for what we do. When you look at those common
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pirates, does it bring up the same emotion and love as the
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Blackbeard card? Well, there's a couple of pieces
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to that on how I would answer that it I love all the pirate
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cards, but the, and the reason I OK, let's just go into this
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right now. The reason I love the pirate
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cards the most is not necessarily because they're
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pirates. It's because they're beautiful
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pieces of art that are from 1888 and in 1888 they were placed
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into a pack of tobacco. And somehow they have survived
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generation after generation after generation.
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And some of them still have a nice looking image and surface
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and are beautiful to this day. And they're an artifact meets
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Americana meets a beautiful little piece of art.
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And so when I first was drawn to them, I've never heard of the
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pirate on the card. I just saw the card and said
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that thing right there is beautiful.
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Now the most beautiful card in the set is the Blackbeard card.
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It it, it's not just that it's Blackbeard, it's that it's the
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most beautiful card. And I've thought about this
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because I'm like, OK, would I sell the other 49 and use that
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money to buy a second Blackbeard?
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Because the Blackbeard is the best card.
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It's the best looking card and where I'm at right now.
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I don't think I want to because for me it's the chase is no pun
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intended, is a big part of the fun.
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Like going to a card show and going, oh, I, I haven't picked
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up my, you know, my Ricky Henderson rookie card yet.
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I haven't picked up my Daryl Strawberry rookie card yet.
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All these cards that you can get.
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You just have to pay the money, the, the actual, the the
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scraping in the clawing to actually find them.
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To me, to me is one of my favorite parts of this whole
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thing. It's one of the, it's one of the
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things that drives what I buy now.
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It's one of the things that drives what my searches are.
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And it's one of the, quite frankly, it's one of the reasons
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I like auction wires because it gets me to more places.
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Like I was scrolling through Facebook posts and, and posting
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things on Facebook groups and saying, if anybody knows of one
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of these or hears about one of these.
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And, and I heard from a guy who knew that a guy might have had a
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Blackbeard and he might have been thinking about selling it.
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And then I reached out to him. And then it's like you knew a
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person who knew a person like that.
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Whole adrenaline for me. Was a was a big part of it.
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I get it all right and and I'm the same way with the leaf
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cards. I now have all but two.
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OK, the page is one of them which I'm not getting any time
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soon. I don't have the resources for
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it at this point, but I also need a new Hauser.
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If anybody has one, reach out. But you know, the chase of it is
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part of the fun. I completely agree with you.
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So here. But here's the thing that I want
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to ask you though, Greg, like didn't you feel a little empty
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when it was over? I know that you can upgrade and
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I'm doing that all the time with my leaf cards and not, you know,
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I first was trying to get the leaf set, the leaf Hall of
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Farmers without the short print cards.
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I was able to do that. But when I was finished, you
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know, I'm still constantly looking to upgrade, to find a
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nicer copy. They're all different to find
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one that's better centered, to find one that looks like a
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little bit better registration or a color variation, but isn't
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there. The the hunt was so extensive
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for me. And so, you know, passionate and
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looking at things every day, multiple times a day at every
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auction house in eBay. And the auction wire that's
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helping us now do all that. I mean, you didn't feel a little
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bit empty when it was over. At first I felt an incredible
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amount of satisfaction, like a like a student who just finished
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his last final of college and it was, I did it.
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And then there is a little bit of this sort of lull.
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We're like, now what's going to happen?
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I've been putting all of my time and energy toward this.
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And now I've gotten this and now what do I do?
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And I was rejuvenated when I decided, well, maybe now I'm
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going to upgrade. And that added a second wave of
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now I'm always looking again, I will say this, getting a solid
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two or a three type of card, not necessarily that number and
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going to like a four or 4 1/2 type of card.
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Again, not necessarily based on the number that that rush is not
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as great as the rush when you went from not having it to now
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having it. And so it it's not quite as good
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of a hit to the endorphin rush, but it's still pretty cool.
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And and then it brings in this whole nother, this whole other
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thing. And this is something I get
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questions on a lot. And we could talk about this
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too, if you want. But how do you ensure that you
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still enjoy your cards? Because if it's all about the
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hunt and then you get the card, you stick it in a box and then
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what? Then what do you occasionally
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pull it back out? I mean, I've got cards that are
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worth thousands of dollars that are in a box and I might go two
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months before taking it out and looking at it.
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What's the point? You know, and, and I have an
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opinion on that and, and how I can still enjoy it.
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But if you're willing to go down that road, like I, I do want
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part of the issue. It it is.
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But are you, are you telling me that you do not look at the
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Blackbeard card more often than the common peg leg Joe card?
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Well, Peg Leg Joe is a short print.
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I will tell you that there are not a lot of Peg Leg Joes out
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there. I would say I do look at the
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Blackbeard more often and the joy I get when I see the
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Blackbeard, it is a greater joy than when I when I look at the
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peg leg Joe. And do you also feel like this
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was what I was wanting to bring up during our regular
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conversation? You are now the you are the
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pirate guy, right? Midlife and your brand.
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A lot of it has to do with this pirate set.
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I don't really have a brand but people know me as the leaf guy
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also right? If you were to let go of the
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Commons, right? And for you to keep, let's say
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let's not say one card, let's say you keep your five best
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cards. But for you to get how many
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cards are in that set? 40 ish. 505050.
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So for you to get rid of 45 and you're saying like get rid of 45
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and get another Blackbeard, You already have 1.
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You could possibly get rid of those 45 and buy a a grail card
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that's always been on your list and use the resources for that
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too. You can still love the pirate
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cards where there's not very many people in the world that
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love those cards as much as you. Does it need to be the full set?
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Does that hurt your brand? Does that hurt how people think
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of you? Is that part of the reason why
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it's tough for you to give those up?
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Well, who said I'm giving them up first of all?
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No, I'm, I'm talking about yeah. Yeah, OK, OK, let's you know,
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I'm an analogy guy and I, I use examples of of other sort of
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situations that maybe we can relate to since most of us are
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pirate card collectors. So Lucy is my younger daughter
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and she's a freshman in college and she is playing college
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soccer at probably the best JC program in the state of
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California for women's soccer. And she just finished her
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freshman year and she's going to go to become a sophomore.
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And will she then transfer and play to four year school?
26:13
Maybe. I don't know.
26:14
We'll see. It's depends on what she wants.
26:17
You know, it depends on what what opportunity she has.
26:21
But there's going to come a point in the next between
26:25
probably nine months and 3 1/2 years that Lucy, who has been
26:34
going to soccer practice three days a week every week since she
26:39
was 8, every weekend is soccer games where her competitive
26:48
opportunity to play will end somewhere in the next six months
26:52
to 3 1/2 years, we'll say. And she's going to have to look
26:59
in the mirror and go, I guess I'm more than just a soccer
27:02
player, you know. And, and I can tell you, knowing
27:06
Lucy, she is much more than than just a soccer player, just like
27:13
you are much more than just a leaf collector.
27:16
And I am much more than a pirate card collector.
27:19
I am a person who loves pirate cards.
27:22
And I look at it as like, you know, no pun intended, but one
27:29
leg, one peg leg of my stool is my pirate collecting.
27:35
I would go so far as to say it's not just my pirate collecting,
27:39
it's my turn of the century. Non sport card collecting is a
27:42
major component of my collection.
27:47
I don't care about my brand. But I could see if I sold those
27:53
and I stopped wanting to upgrade them and it was no longer a
27:56
piece of my collection that I would kind of look in the mirror
27:59
and go, what, what, what kind of collector am I?
28:03
Just like Lucy will look in the mirror and go, OK, so I'm not
28:06
playing competitive soccer now when people at when my distant
28:11
relatives see me at, you know, Christmas, what are they going
28:15
to ask me about? Because all they've asked me
28:18
about for the last 15 years is this just like when I go on a
28:21
show, people go, oh, he's the guy who collects pirate cards.
28:26
I, I, I don't see myself letting that affect my, my collecting of
28:34
pirate cards or not. I think everything is for sale.
28:40
Everything is for sale, but some things are really expensive and
28:45
they're more expensive for somebody to pay me than it would
28:51
be to pay anybody else for, you know what I mean?
28:55
So I don't know if I answered your question.
28:58
Well, we're 30 minutes in. Good grief, how is this
29:02
happening? We just on the show.
29:05
All right, let's let's do this. Let's take a look at some cards
29:08
because I you know, that comment always happens.
29:10
We're 30 minutes in and we haven't even seen a card yet.
29:13
OK, let's we at. Least spoke about cards early
29:16
on. Last time it took us 22 minutes
29:17
to even talk about cards in general.
29:19
So let's look at the 48 leaf set and let's look at some cards
29:24
from your collection. OK in question.
29:26
And you chose these cards for a reason.
29:30
These I would consider chase cards because they're chase
29:36
cards and they're Chase cards. I see how you did that.
29:40
I like it. All right, here we go.
29:43
Tell me, why did you pull these cards and want these to be
29:46
included in this discussion? So these are part of my leaf
29:50
Hall of Fame run, right? And they, man, I love these.
29:54
I, I love looking at them because of how nice they look
29:58
for a leaf card, right? They are centered.
30:00
I love these low grade cards that I have, in my opinion,
30:05
nice. I appeal at least for myself and
30:09
they are just so hard to find that look like this.
30:12
And both of these were not my first, second or third version
30:16
of this card. I've bought them and then I've
30:19
upgraded to a new version of it as I found a better one.
30:23
So it has been a long, long quest to even get these.
30:27
But now I'm at the point where it would be probably hard for me
30:31
to upgrade either of those two cards like I again, I don't need
30:34
a six. I don't need it to be a seven.
30:36
I'm fine with looking good centered and and it's one of
30:42
these Hall of Farmers that are part of the set.
30:45
But now that I've had these for a while, they don't do the same
30:50
for me as when I look at my Ted Williams or Joe DiMaggio or
30:56
Jackie Robinson, those kind of cards, or stamp usual or any of
31:01
my short prints, those are also included in this.
31:04
I mean, they are relatively easy to get, not looking like this.
31:09
But do I need a Bobby Door card in my collection?
31:15
I don't know. Why do I?
31:17
Have the list that's needed. Why do I need to have these when
31:20
I'm I'm making a list? This isn't I'm a flight
31:22
collector. I care about like the specific
31:25
cards and for some reason I made a rule for myself that I'm
31:28
collecting the Hall of Farmers. Why did I do that?
31:31
Yeah, I don't. That's the whole point of the
31:33
the conversation. And and if you're listening, the
31:36
cards that David's been talking about for the last three minutes
31:40
are the Leaf Bobby Door in APSA 2, would it, which is insanely
31:46
well centered. It is a newer label.
31:49
Again, I'm just describing it so you can envision it if you're
31:52
listening only. And then in an SGC holder, an
31:56
SGC 3.5, we have a Luke Appling, which is also very well
32:01
centered. I mean, they have honest
32:04
corners, but I agree that these cards both have really nice eye
32:09
appeal. I don't know, I, I understand
32:15
why you would want these two cards, but I also understand why
32:19
you would not need these two cards in your collection.
32:23
But you have them in your collection.
32:25
So what you're saying is I want them in my collection.
32:29
So is it, is it a feeling of, well, if I'm going to be the
32:34
leaf guy, then I got to have all the hall of farmers from the
32:38
leaf set. How could you not have all the
32:41
hall of farmers from the leaf set if you're the leaf guy?
32:44
No, it's not that. That's what I was asking you and
32:46
and I, I agree with you. I have the self esteem to not
32:49
have to feel that way too, thankfully.
32:52
But it's just one of those things where because I love the
32:55
set so much, I kind of gave myself a target right of ways
33:00
for me to enjoy the set because I could say, listen, I could
33:05
just get a flight of the 8 cards that I love.
33:09
I also forgot to mention the Ruth.
33:11
I really love that card too, which some people don't, but
33:14
they're, you know, even if we're to leave, there could be 12
33:16
cards, but do I need it to be 22 cards?
33:19
And I, I kind of agree with a lot of what you said.
33:23
Also by me choosing to have these cards, it's really saying
33:26
that I'd rather have these cards than something else because I do
33:31
not have unlimited resources. So I know I can get, you know,
33:36
listen, these aren't the top hall of Famers, but it is hard
33:38
to find cards that look relatively centered for leaf
33:41
collectors. So I know I could get a nice
33:43
premium for these cards. Would I rather condense them for
33:47
a big card to buy at the National?
33:50
I mean, it's one of those things you have to sometimes weigh as
33:54
you're going through your collection to figure out what
33:56
you want to keep. If I had all the money in the
33:58
world, I'd keep everything right.
34:01
Yeah, OK. So one of the things that I
34:07
recently had a conversation with Darren return to collecting on
34:11
our Off Topic episode, which has now aired as this is being heard
34:17
on Darren's channel. And a big part of the
34:19
conversation was Darren, what the heck?
34:22
You're selling a bunch of cards every month on CIA.
34:25
What are you doing? You're you were selling like
34:28
some OK cards, nice cards. And now you're selling like, you
34:32
know, this month he's selling a Yogi Berra Bowman in APSA 6,
34:38
like big time cards. He's selling.
34:41
What are you doing? And he's like, I could get this
34:44
card back someday. I could get this card back.
34:47
But now as we have on the screen, a leaf Johnny Mize in
34:54
APSA three, also a relatively new holder and new grade, and a
34:59
leaf Joe Gordon in an SGC 3.5. Again, both are insanely well
35:07
centered cards. But if I were to say to you,
35:11
well, yeah, I mean, you could get another Johnny Mize or you
35:14
could get another Joe Gordon, but could you get another Johnny
35:18
Mize? I mean, that Johnny Mize card is
35:20
notorious for being way off center.
35:23
You might be able to get another Johnny Mayes, but could you get
35:26
a Johnny Mayes that's centered like that?
35:28
Probably not. So sometimes being able to
35:32
reacquire the card versus being able to acquire reacquire a card
35:37
that looks like this example might be completely different
35:41
things. Yeah.
35:42
You're right. And so that's, I can't think of
35:45
it as I would buy these ever again if I were to let these go
35:50
because it's, it's taken years and, and again, I, I am really
35:55
eccentric. I am looking at every listing of
35:58
a leaf card that comes on every auction house, including eBay
36:02
every day, OK, to try to find the centered versions, which is
36:07
why these are the 4th, 5th versions of it.
36:10
So if I were to let him go, it is a little different than
36:13
Darren because it would be very, I just care so much about
36:19
centering and for Leaf, they are so hard to find that they really
36:23
would be tough to replace. So it has to be a situation
36:26
where I've let it go, I've let it go, I've let my babies go to
36:31
other collectors that will enjoy it hopefully as much as I have.
36:35
And it's not a for sure thing that I'm going to do this.
36:38
But it's just a thought because I it's hard in this market to
36:43
just come up with more and more money to be able to buy cards.
36:46
I'm going to the National and I want to have a budget.
36:49
I want to have money for cards. I've sold a bunch and I've been
36:52
buying a bunch. But the newer ones that I buy, I
36:55
love them more than a lot of times.
36:57
The ones that I've had for a while and just these are cards
37:01
that even though I love them and I love that it helps me be a
37:04
completionist, but that's the game of being a completionist.
37:08
It's gamifying the hobby to be a set collector or to go through a
37:12
player run to do these kind of things.
37:14
But does the game really matter when you fulfill the game,
37:19
right? You won, OK, you did it.
37:20
I collected them all. And now when I look at those
37:23
cards, listen, they're, they're kind of in the back of my
37:26
collection and I'm not like going through those the same way
37:29
as I go through cards that I've picked up more recently that get
37:35
my juices flowing. So that's where just telling me
37:38
that. Game is never done.
37:41
I, I, I mean, I use golf as an example because even when Tiger
37:46
Woods was at his peak, he still could have been better.
37:50
You know, for years I wanted to shoot under par and I'd shot
37:54
even par, even par, even par. And then I finally shot 71.
37:58
I shot one under and I was like, I did it.
38:01
And then I said, well, now I got to see if I can shoot in the
38:04
60s. And it's, there's always
38:07
something that you can strive for.
38:10
So you're never done, which is why it's fun.
38:14
The things where you can be done aren't actually that they're not
38:22
the same. They're not the same.
38:24
So yes, I have the full set of pirate carts.
38:28
I mean, look at this cart. So on the screen, I've got an
38:32
SGC 5 Blackbeard. I mean, that card, that card was
38:41
printed, you know, a couple of decades after the Civil War.
38:45
Dude, this was, it's a, it's a bad ass card.
38:48
I mean, it is amazing. 25 years before World War One that was in
38:53
a pack of tobacco. I mean, that is such a cool
38:56
card. And I think on the universal
39:00
pop, if you look at all the grading companies, I think there
39:02
are like 8 or 9 that are graded higher than this one.
39:07
I mean, and I've seen some of them and and this one looks
39:10
better than some of those. I saw a 7 and my 5 is better
39:14
than the seven if. You saw a seven that looked
39:18
better than this. Would you be trying to upgrade
39:20
it? I don't think I could afford to
39:23
upgrade it because I think that that is a more significant card
39:28
than you realize that it is. So I don't I would, I would have
39:35
to. I mean, I mean, if a 7 is is
39:40
well into the, I mean, it's, it's probably a a legit seven
39:46
that looks better than this. I think it's a 15, the $20,000
39:52
card. And let me just make up a story,
39:54
just because, you know, this isn't what we're doing.
39:57
We're just, we're just talking out loud.
39:59
How about if you could trade the rest of your pirate cards and
40:04
this card for that card? Would you do it?
40:11
Would I trade my 5 and the whole set for A7 if the seven?
40:19
Oh man, if the seven, that's a really good question.
40:25
If the seven was legit, a legit 7 and I'm not just upgrading all
40:32
this for a number and it was a legit seven that deserved A7, I
40:40
think I might, I think I would do that.
40:41
I I think there's 18, There's one or two eights, There's a
40:46
couple of sevens, there's a couple of sixes.
40:52
If it was the highest ever grade, like if it was an 8 and
40:57
there are no other eights, I would do it for sure to have the
41:01
best copy in the world of it. I would do that 100%.
41:04
Not even. I would do that plus the next
41:07
top three cards in my collection for the best one on Earth.
41:12
Wait and then would you then start over and collect the
41:16
pirate cards again? I see.
41:19
I knew that question was coming, so I've already processed that.
41:25
Probably not OK. Probably.
41:28
Not answers a lot, that answers a lot and I'm gonna put that on
41:31
my terms just to to put it for my leaf heads out there.
41:35
If that same thing happened with the Satchel Paige card or that
41:39
Jackie in a one that had the staple hole, which is the whole
41:41
reason why I'm on sports cards live, I would probably trade all
41:45
of my leaf cards for those two cards also.
41:49
Yeah, let me just show a couple more cards because it's like, do
41:55
I only like the Blackbeard? No, this is Captain Morgan.
41:59
Like the rum, this is this card has become a bigger card as
42:06
things have gone on. He wasn't as famous as of a
42:09
pirate as Blackbeard or the third one I'm going to show you.
42:13
But he's famous for that reason. So he's more recognizable.
42:17
So this card has a decent amount of value.
42:20
So my captain I, I, I'm guessing that he probably was.
42:26
And this one's in an SGC 4.5 if you're listening.
42:30
And then the third one I'll show another card that I think is
42:35
pretty cool. A fairly well known pirate name
42:39
is Captain Kidd. It's not as big of a name
42:43
obviously as Blackbeard, but this would be one of the bigger
42:46
names. And again, I I just think that's
42:50
a gorgeous card. And this is in an SGC. 4I love
42:56
these things and I understand why some people would go what
43:00
are you doing? Like I look at some of these
43:03
animal cards and it's like a cheetah.
43:06
Like why do you want that someone go?
43:08
Why do you want Captain Morgan like it?
43:11
It, it doesn't make, it doesn't have to make sense to somebody
43:15
else. It only has to make sense to us.
43:19
I don't think we've I don't think we've accomplished
43:21
anything. And we're 40.
43:22
Three, I know, but I just want, I want to go back on one thing
43:25
which I probably cut you off and I wanted to hear kind of what
43:27
your response is more. If you were to sell your whole
43:32
set to get the one Blackbeard card, why wouldn't you?
43:37
If you love this set so much, why would you not start it again
43:42
if you had to consolidate for that one card?
43:44
What's the reason for that? How many people and, and I'm,
43:51
I'm guessing the numbers not huge.
43:53
So let's just, I'm gonna, I'm gonna guess a number.
43:57
How many people have made it to the summit of Mount Everest?
44:03
What would you guess? 5000.
44:07
OK, let's say it's 5000. How many people do you think
44:11
have gone to the summit of Mount Everest?
44:13
Twice. It's.
44:15
Probably more than 5000, by the way, But let's say you know, if
44:22
it was 5000, let's say 800 have done it twice.
44:25
Right. I would, I would say maybe less,
44:27
but OK. The reason I believe is because
44:31
why I've already made it to the top.
44:35
I've already done the feat that seemed impossible and forever I
44:42
did that. And now that you've done it,
44:45
you've done it. Like there are certain things
44:49
like that you've done. And once you've done it, you've
44:55
accomplished it. And the sense of accomplishment,
44:58
the sense of accomplishment is a lot of a lot of what drives us
45:03
for things. And and then once the
45:07
accomplishment has happened, doing it again.
45:11
I can't imagine it feels as good making it to the summit of Mount
45:16
Everest the second time as it did the first time.
45:19
The first time had to have been better than the second.
45:23
I agree, but there's some people who trained to run a marathon
45:26
and then after they run it once and they get that feeling they
45:29
still do it again. Those people are runners.
45:35
Those aren't people. Those aren't people who the
45:38
accomplishment was a goal of trying to.
45:44
I mean, there are people who their thing is to run and then
45:47
there are people who say, who sit on the couch all day like
45:51
me. And they say, I wonder if I
45:54
could ever get to the point where I could run a whole
45:57
marathon. And then once you do that, those
46:00
people, the couch to marathon person, I have a feeling, aren't
46:05
frequent goers, but runners. They run.
46:09
That's what they do. And I mean, we're probably
46:12
beating a dead horse, but you've also said when we started this
46:14
conversation that they are the most beautiful cards in the
46:17
world. And that doesn't take it away
46:19
from them being the most beautiful cards in the world if
46:22
you own them or do not own them. So it does surprise me a little
46:25
bit when you say it like that, for you to not want to at least
46:29
pick up a few of them, even if you ended up selling it in that
46:33
hypothetical situation. Because you love beauty of
46:36
cards, don't you, Greg? I I do love beauty and cards.
46:40
All right, I'm going to show you this real quick.
46:43
Let's see, as of December 2020, five 7563 different people have
46:52
successfully summited Mount Everest.
46:56
So. 5000 was a good guess. I'm actually impressed with
46:58
myself. Yeah, Everybody out there that
47:00
was hating on you, they need to recognize that you're actually a
47:03
good estimator of climbing. All right, buddy, we're 47
47:07
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47:08
I mean, we're on the back half of the curve.
47:11
People have completely said what are we doing here?
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the next set that you think you could get your get into?
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48:36
the N it is the Native Americans.
48:41
Now the problem with N2 is we get a bunch of N2 whatevers.
48:46
The one that I N76 is one that I liked a lot that I mentioned.
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We're getting watches on here. What do you think's up with
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that? You know some, it just knows
49:00
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Is this? Yeah.
49:04
Is that what you ended up buying from my buddy Ryan?
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The from at West Coast Card Show?
49:12
I bought an N2 sitting bowl. Got it.
49:16
An N2 sitting bowl I threw in SGCI.
49:19
Probably should have done that before Is is selected A grade.
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That's what threw everything off but the N 76 set.
49:27
I love the N 76 set. Another one that I love a lot
49:31
that a buddy of mine named David also collects is the N 222,
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So the N 22 set, 222 set, there's only 9 total that are
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the evening, pizza anytime. If you could have pizza on a
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bagel, you could have pizza anytime.