Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / Killers Amongst Us: Beautiful Blonde Mom Breaks into Politics, MURDERED! (part 3)
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here, welcome back to Killers amongst Us,
- 0:08Speaker 1: a production of iHeart Media and Crime Online. Every day,
- 0:13Speaker 1: when we pull up at a red light, or we
- 0:16Speaker 1: walk through the doors at Kroger or Aldes or Trader Joe's,
- 0:23Speaker 1: look around you, it's very sobering to realize there are
- 0:30Speaker 1: killers amongst us. Killers you would never expect actually walk
- 0:37Speaker 1: the halls of the state Capitol. That's hard to believe
- 0:41Speaker 1: because most of them are lawyers and judges. I Nancy Grace,
- 0:45Speaker 1: this is Killers amongst Us, a rags to richest story.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Linda Colins Smith She's bull she's beautiful, the long blonde hair,
- 0:59Speaker 1: the big blue why. Fights her way out of a
- 1:02Speaker 1: horrible first marriage and off that gravel road she grew
- 1:06Speaker 1: up on with no running water to become a businessperson,
- 1:10Speaker 1: a real estate owner, and a local politician. Joining me
- 1:17Speaker 1: an all star panel to break it down and put
- 1:18Speaker 1: it back together again. Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter
- 1:22Speaker 1: Levi Page, private investigator Derek Ellington at ellington dot Net.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Professor forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My
- 1:32Speaker 1: Feet on Amazon, and star of a brand new series
- 1:36Speaker 1: on the true crime Network, Poisonous Liaisons, Joseph Scott Morgan,
- 1:41Speaker 1: renowned psychiatris joining me from Atlanta, Doctor Angela Arnold at
- 1:45Speaker 1: Angela Arnold MD dot com, judge, trial lawyer, anchor Court TV,
- 1:50Speaker 1: Ashley Willcott at Ashley Wilcott dot com. And special guests
- 1:54Speaker 1: joining us Ken Yang, former Press Secretary and Senator Missy Irvin,
- 2:00Speaker 1: both longtime friends of Linda Collins. We were talking about
- 2:06Speaker 1: how Linda had come out of a horrible first marriage,
- 2:09Speaker 1: married Prince Charmie who looked great on paper, and then
- 2:13Speaker 1: everything went to pot. Take a listen to Crime Onlines
- 2:16Speaker 1: Dave Mack. Judge Philip Smith retired from the bench two
- 2:20Speaker 1: days after The Executive Director of the Judicial Discipline and
- 2:23Speaker 1: Disability Commission, David Sakar, filed a complaint as a result
- 2:26Speaker 1: of information obtained through pleadings in his divorce case and
- 2:29Speaker 1: other sources. In an official letter of reprimand an agreement
- 2:33Speaker 1: not to serve in the judiciary, Sakar wrote, quote that
- 2:36Speaker 1: the investigation panel found and you agreed, that you made
- 2:40Speaker 1: improper use of court premises, equipment, and other resources to
- 2:44Speaker 1: engage in extra judicial activities that did not concern the
- 2:48Speaker 1: law of the legal system or the administration of justice.
- 2:51Speaker 1: You admitted under oath during divorce litigation in Randolph County
- 2:55Speaker 1: Circuit Court that you improperly used court computer equipment after
- 3:00Speaker 1: regular work hours at the office. With that, Smith accepted
- 3:05Speaker 1: a sanction and agreed he would be permanently ineligible to
- 3:09Speaker 1: serve in the judiciary, even in an emergency temporary situation.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Oh my stars, can I tell you something? When you
- 3:17Speaker 1: are barred from being a fill in judge a senior
- 3:22Speaker 1: judge as they are called, when the workload gets to
- 3:26Speaker 1: be too much and cases are backing up. Very often
- 3:29Speaker 1: in every jurisdiction, retire judges called senior judges are called
- 3:34Speaker 1: in to handle let's just say, the bond calendar or
- 3:38Speaker 1: oversee a couple of trials when the calendars are really backlogged.
- 3:43Speaker 1: So suddenly something that happens in that divorce proceeding with
- 3:49Speaker 1: Linda Collins goes horribly sideways and her ex judge Phillip
- 3:55Speaker 1: Smith's basically thrown off the bench. WHOA what happened? Leavi Page.
- 4:02Speaker 1: So he was accused, and he actually admitted this under oath,
- 4:05Speaker 1: accusing computer equipment after hours for quote extra judicial activities.
- 4:11Speaker 1: It was never specified exactly what he did, but he agreed.
- 4:15Speaker 1: He agreed that he would no longer serve as a judge,
- 4:19Speaker 1: that he would resign in describe. Okay, I'm not getting it.
- 4:22Speaker 1: So what did you do? Go check as Wells fargo
- 4:24Speaker 1: at five o one pm and he got thrown off
- 4:26Speaker 1: the bench. I'm not buying that. For one, it was
- 4:29Speaker 1: related to his divorce case. Okay, so he checked Urnwell's
- 4:32Speaker 1: fargo has something to do with There is something more
- 4:35Speaker 1: to this than you're telling me leave my page, Jerk Allington,
- 4:40Speaker 1: you're the expert in online activity. What First of all,
- 4:45Speaker 1: who would think to check a judge's computer to find
- 4:49Speaker 1: out what they've been doing at five oz one pm. Well,
- 4:53Speaker 1: in most cases there are some type of controls in place.
- 4:56Speaker 1: And it never fails to amaze me how much trouble
- 4:59Speaker 1: public and civil employees get into misusing their computer equipment.
- 5:04Speaker 1: And I will tell you that you know, checking your
- 5:07Speaker 1: stock scores is typically would get you in trouble. I
- 5:10Speaker 1: think the elephant in the room is people probably doing
- 5:14Speaker 1: things on public computers with a bit of impunity that
- 5:18Speaker 1: they probably shouldn't be doing on any computer, and a
- 5:21Speaker 1: lot of times misusing computer equipment is a euphemism for
- 5:25Speaker 1: probably going to things that he probably shouldn't have been
- 5:28Speaker 1: go into. Okay, I'm trying to read in between the
- 5:30Speaker 1: lines here. Does it's I mean, you've got to judge
- 5:34Speaker 1: protecting the record, making sure that we never find out what,
- 5:39Speaker 1: if anything, he was doing online that got him thrown
- 5:42Speaker 1: off the bench. Did it ever become public to Kenon
- 5:47Speaker 1: Yang what he was doing on his computer? No, I
- 5:52Speaker 1: you know know as much as everyone knows. You know,
- 5:56Speaker 1: they were real vague, as as you mentioned an extra
- 6:00Speaker 1: judicial activity. Uh, you know, there were I believe in
- 6:04Speaker 1: in one of the statements that he had gone on
- 6:06Speaker 1: that after hours to change some language and the divorce
- 6:12Speaker 1: which I think is the decree or the settlement um,
- 6:15Speaker 1: and got caught doing that. But other than that, you know,
- 6:18Speaker 1: everything has always just been h hearsay or or just
- 6:23Speaker 1: you know, up to your imagination. Okay, well you know
- 6:27Speaker 1: what you you you said that so diplomatically. I didn't
- 6:30Speaker 1: really know what you said. Wait now, are you telling
- 6:33Speaker 1: me that he that he changed allegedly changed some worrying
- 6:40Speaker 1: and a in their divorce decree. Yes, Yes, that he
- 6:44Speaker 1: had went in and tried to change some language and
- 6:47Speaker 1: in the divorce. It's in a story I can't remember where, um,
- 6:54Speaker 1: but there were there were some allegations of him, you know,
- 6:58Speaker 1: improperly using as it was said, improbably using equipment and
- 7:07Speaker 1: resources you know after hours. Wow, okay, that's certainly a
- 7:12Speaker 1: bombshell to actually Willcott judge and trial lawyer, a court
- 7:15Speaker 1: TV anchor. I don't like I'm saying, you got to
- 7:18Speaker 1: be doing more than checking your Vanguard account to get
- 7:20Speaker 1: thrown off the bench. Absolutely, And I was so I
- 7:23Speaker 1: was biting my tongue trying not to drop in. But
- 7:25Speaker 1: let me just tell you this, like it or not.
- 7:28Speaker 1: I even know if judges who have been looking up
- 7:31Speaker 1: things that they shouldn't that may or may not have
- 7:33Speaker 1: to do with that. Good people and as a matter
- 7:36Speaker 1: of fact, they have not lost their jobs or their privileges.
- 7:40Speaker 1: So to me, wait, are you saying there's a judge
- 7:42Speaker 1: that that looked at porn and did not get thrown
- 7:45Speaker 1: off the bench. Nobody is saying that this judge was
- 7:49Speaker 1: looking at porn. Everybody saying that, I know, it's got
- 7:52Speaker 1: to be something to get thrown off the bench. It's
- 7:54Speaker 1: got to be worse than that. That's my point. And
- 7:56Speaker 1: I would suggest going in a changing documents senior divorce
- 8:01Speaker 1: absolutely violates ethical standards, and it's got to be something
- 8:05Speaker 1: like that to get him thrown off the bench. Not
- 8:07Speaker 1: only thrown off the bench, you can't even come back
- 8:10Speaker 1: as a temporary judge. I mean, where I practiced law
- 8:15Speaker 1: in court all those years in inter city Atlanta, we
- 8:18Speaker 1: all I tried many cases in front of senior judges
- 8:21Speaker 1: because the workload was so heavy, you know, the twenty
- 8:26Speaker 1: or so superior court judges couldn't could not physically, there
- 8:30Speaker 1: was not enough time to handle all the cases. So
- 8:33Speaker 1: we'd bring in senior judges with try cases and tiny
- 8:37Speaker 1: little rooms with you know, all over that courthouse. You'd
- 8:41Speaker 1: put up a petition to try case. Just find a
- 8:43Speaker 1: judge somewhere. He can't even come back as a temporary judge. Ashley, Yes,
- 8:47Speaker 1: that's my point. That's how egregious it was to be
- 8:50Speaker 1: to that extent. It is so many different things. I mean,
- 8:55Speaker 1: not only the ethical violation of going in and looking
- 8:58Speaker 1: at documents, but making change that's fraud. Those are crimes.
- 9:02Speaker 1: So in reality, if that's what he really did, he
- 9:05Speaker 1: could also effaced criminal charges. Well, somebody had to find
- 9:08Speaker 1: out what was going on in order to report it.
- 9:12Speaker 1: So how again, no one, no one is suggesting that
- 9:19Speaker 1: her former husband, the judge Philip Smith, was looking at porn.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Nobody certainly not me. I think it was something very
- 9:30Speaker 1: very different. In fact, I don't think it was porn.
- 9:33Speaker 1: I think it was something very very different for him
- 9:35Speaker 1: to accept a resignation and promise never ever to put
- 9:39Speaker 1: a toe on the bench again. To Joseph Scott Morgan,
- 9:48Speaker 1: Professor forensics, death investigator, you know I prosecuted cases murder
- 9:54Speaker 1: over five dollars, murder over ten dollars. You know, murder
- 10:00Speaker 1: take place for a lot of different reasons, with motive
- 10:03Speaker 1: a lot less than this because all this comes out
- 10:06Speaker 1: because of the divorce. Joe Scott, Yeah, it does. And
- 10:10Speaker 1: you know, you've got even a broader spectrum here, Nancy,
- 10:13Speaker 1: because you know, you think about those cases that I
- 10:15Speaker 1: worked as an investigator in Fulton County and that you
- 10:17Speaker 1: worked as a prosecutor, and our spectrum's kind of narrow sometimes,
- 10:21Speaker 1: you know, maybe street level drug crimes. But when you
- 10:25Speaker 1: start to talk about an individual that is in an
- 10:28Speaker 1: elevated position, okay, where you have an individual that say
- 10:32Speaker 1: a politician or a judge, you know, your spectrum automatically
- 10:36Speaker 1: broadens as an investigator, and it makes it sometimes even
- 10:40Speaker 1: more difficult because you know, you begin to think, well,
- 10:45Speaker 1: did somebody have it in for an individual, perhaps to
- 10:48Speaker 1: ruin their life or to harm them in some way,
- 10:52Speaker 1: or was this just a random street level crime. And
- 10:55Speaker 1: so that just kind of duplicates the work. And one
- 10:58Speaker 1: more thing you can't for good, Nancy, it's the idea
- 11:02Speaker 1: that the media is going to look at these cases
- 11:05Speaker 1: all the more hard, harder, and much more scrutiny on
- 11:09Speaker 1: these cases, and as you well know, it makes our
- 11:11Speaker 1: job so much more difficult. So here you have a judge,
- 11:15Speaker 1: a lawyer thrown off the bench, never ever to return
- 11:21Speaker 1: because of what was uncovered in the midst of a
- 11:24Speaker 1: very acrimonious divorce with Linda Collins Smith that said take
- 11:32Speaker 1: a listen now to Sheriff Kevin Bell. On Tuesday, June fourth,
- 11:37Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, the dead body of a female was discovered
- 11:41Speaker 1: that the residence of former Arkansas State Senator Linda Collins Smith.
- 11:46Speaker 1: The condition of the body prevented any immediate positive identification.
- 11:52Speaker 1: The Randolph County Sheriff's Office responded to the scene that
- 11:55Speaker 1: around five forty five PM and immediately began securing the
- 12:00Speaker 1: crime scene. The Arkansas State Police Criminal Investigation Division was
- 12:04Speaker 1: dispatched to the scene along with forensic examiners from the
- 12:08Speaker 1: Arkansas State Crime Lab in Little Rock. The body has
- 12:12Speaker 1: been sent for an autopsy to determine the positive identification
- 12:15Speaker 1: and cause of death. Third Judicial District Circuit Judge Harold
- 12:20Speaker 1: Irwin has issued a sealed an order sealing the documents
- 12:25Speaker 1: and statements ordered or obtained by the police during this investigation. Well,
- 12:30Speaker 1: let me ask something right off the top to Kenny Yang,
- 12:34Speaker 1: former press secretary. Isn't the judge, Judge Harold Irwin who
- 12:39Speaker 1: sealed those documents regarding the female body found at Landa's home?
- 12:44Speaker 1: Didn't he sit on the bench in the same courthouse,
- 12:48Speaker 1: the same circuit as her ex husband. I believe that
- 12:53Speaker 1: was the case, and I believe that's why you saw
- 12:55Speaker 1: him recuse himself later down the line. So you got
- 12:59Speaker 1: Judge Harold Irwin sealing documents about the discovery of a
- 13:05Speaker 1: body at Linda Collins home. Judge Harold Irwin sits on
- 13:10Speaker 1: the bench down the hall from Linda Collins Smith's husband.
- 13:16Speaker 1: The judge, after a very very acrimonious divorce proceedings straight
- 13:22Speaker 1: out to leave ipage Crime online dot Com investigative reporter.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Tell me about where her home is. I want to
- 13:29Speaker 1: find out about. Is it a wooded area, is it
- 13:33Speaker 1: near a mountainous area? Is it down a long driveway?
- 13:38Speaker 1: Was their video surveillance? Did you have a burglar system
- 13:42Speaker 1: in place? Because you know, going to someone's home. Is
- 13:49Speaker 1: it very Let me just say open act to just
- 13:55Speaker 1: walk up to someone's home and leave a dead body there.
- 13:58Speaker 1: Let's just start at the beginning. Tell me about the home.
- 14:01Speaker 1: So she lived into Poponis, Arkansas, small town, mostly rural area,
- 14:06Speaker 1: population six thousand. She didn't have a long driveway to
- 14:09Speaker 1: her home, but her neighbors knew her very well. They
- 14:13Speaker 1: said that she was very friendly. And that is the
- 14:17Speaker 1: landscape of her home in Pocohonas, Arkansas. And also we
- 14:21Speaker 1: know she's not there very much. Her children are growing up,
- 14:25Speaker 1: and she's gone to the capitol a lot. And then
- 14:29Speaker 1: a body emerges at her home. Take a listen to
- 14:33Speaker 1: our friend Tyler Thompson. Kaark wait wait, stop, stop, but LEVI,
- 14:38Speaker 1: where is the body? So the body was found at
- 14:42Speaker 1: the end of her driveway and it was covered in
- 14:46Speaker 1: a tarp and a blanket. So the body's wrapped in
- 14:49Speaker 1: a blanket, covered in a tarp at the end of
- 14:52Speaker 1: the driveway. What like somebody is taking out the trash
- 14:56Speaker 1: and they just leave the body there. Is that what
- 14:58Speaker 1: you're telling me, Levi? Yes, And apparently the body had
- 15:02Speaker 1: been decomposing for seven days when the body was found.
- 15:07Speaker 1: They could not even identify who this body was. Just
- 15:18Speaker 1: got Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jackson State University, or hearing what
- 15:21Speaker 1: Levi Page is saying, we don't get the ruling on
- 15:25Speaker 1: ID because the body is so decomposed, wrapped in a rug,
- 15:29Speaker 1: covered in the tarp at the end of the driveway.
- 15:32Speaker 1: That's pretty, uh outrage just just leaving a body at
- 15:36Speaker 1: the end of the driveway. Yeah, it is. And the
- 15:38Speaker 1: heat of the summer in Arkansas. And one other interesting
- 15:42Speaker 1: side note to this, Nancy is that you know, neighbors
- 15:46Speaker 1: alleged that they had heard gunshot and I think that
- 15:50Speaker 1: it kind of went out that she had been shot,
- 15:54Speaker 1: and that you know that that turns out not to
- 15:56Speaker 1: be accurate. Keep in mind, her body, as you had stated,
- 15:59Speaker 1: is a fact decomposed, is decomposed to the level where
- 16:03Speaker 1: you just cannot eyeball her at the scene, which is
- 16:05Speaker 1: something that we don't want to do anyway, you know,
- 16:08Speaker 1: because you can get you can get into the weeds
- 16:10Speaker 1: with this very you want to get them back to
- 16:12Speaker 1: examine them. But this is complicated all the more because
- 16:15Speaker 1: she has gone down the timeline, our post mortum interval timeline,
- 16:20Speaker 1: to the point where trauma is essentially you can't evaluate it.
- 16:24Speaker 1: It's unrecognizable. That leaves that leads us to this one
- 16:29Speaker 1: to this one piece here that's crucial. Where could her
- 16:33Speaker 1: body have been sequestered for this period of time, who
- 16:36Speaker 1: would have had access to her body and to a
- 16:40Speaker 1: location where she could have been hidden away? And then
- 16:44Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like you said, like garbage just
- 16:47Speaker 1: kind of taken to the end of the drive. And
- 16:49Speaker 1: it's very it's very bizarre because she was in fact
- 16:52Speaker 1: wrapped in a blanket, but not wrapped in the tart.
- 16:55Speaker 1: She was covered with a tart, so it's not like
- 16:59Speaker 1: she was completely the coon here. You know, I'm thinking,
- 17:02Speaker 1: who the hell does this? You know, why would you
- 17:05Speaker 1: do this? Why would you do it in broad daylight? This?
- 17:08Speaker 1: And it makes us an investcator, It makes me think, well,
- 17:11Speaker 1: did this person get caught. Did they think they were
- 17:14Speaker 1: being seen as they were trying to get the body
- 17:17Speaker 1: into a car, maybe to transport it somewhere, and they
- 17:20Speaker 1: just you know, dropped her body there and then fled
- 17:22Speaker 1: to Doctor Angela Arnold Psychiatrists joining me out of Atlanta,
- 17:26Speaker 1: Doctor Angie, I've noticed in many, many homicide cases the
- 17:30Speaker 1: victim's face is covered. It could be covered with leaves.
- 17:35Speaker 1: In one case I worked on, the woman's head had
- 17:40Speaker 1: the rest of her body was naked, but her head
- 17:43Speaker 1: had a wicker trash basket placed over her head to
- 17:46Speaker 1: cover the face. It could be a blanket atart, anything
- 17:49Speaker 1: to cover the dead victim's face. Why is that means
- 17:53Speaker 1: you believe it or not the killer does that to
- 17:57Speaker 1: make this a less personal act. It's it's just it's
- 18:02Speaker 1: it's it's a reflex that they actually do, and it's
- 18:05Speaker 1: so that they can continue with the killing, because possibly
- 18:10Speaker 1: while if they were looking at this person, it would
- 18:12Speaker 1: personalize it so much for them that they may not
- 18:15Speaker 1: be able to continue with what they're doing. So they
- 18:17Speaker 1: cover the face so that they actually no longer think
- 18:20Speaker 1: about who this person is that they're doing. This act
- 18:24Speaker 1: too interesting to Darry Ellington, private investigator at Ellington dot Net.
- 18:29Speaker 1: I've seen so many cases where a murder of victim's
- 18:32Speaker 1: face is covered. But something doctor Angela Arnold just said
- 18:37Speaker 1: strikes the chord. She said, they cover the face. The
- 18:41Speaker 1: perp covers the face to make it less personal, which
- 18:44Speaker 1: means a random killer does not take the time to
- 18:48Speaker 1: cover up the face because it is impersonal. They don't care.
- 18:53Speaker 1: It has to be someone that knows the victim to
- 18:56Speaker 1: try to make it impersonal. Get it Green, Nancy. But
- 19:00Speaker 1: I would also say one of the interesting things when
- 19:03Speaker 1: we're looking at people's, say electronic footprint, is how people
- 19:07Speaker 1: who commit crimes can compartmentalize their activities, and you can
- 19:14Speaker 1: sometimes think you're dealing with two separate people, the person
- 19:18Speaker 1: who commits the crime and then the husband, the wife,
- 19:22Speaker 1: the children, whoever, because they create almost a separate part
- 19:28Speaker 1: of themselves to do what they're doing. So I could
- 19:31Speaker 1: see conflict in the covering of the face because it's
- 19:36Speaker 1: the two sides of the person battling for control of
- 19:38Speaker 1: the situation. Wow. Back to Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor forensic
- 19:43Speaker 1: Jacksonville State University. So at this point they couldn't just
- 19:47Speaker 1: look in the rug and determine who the person is. Why, Yeah,
- 19:51Speaker 1: because she's so far downrange this postmortem interval timeline that occurs, Nancy.
- 19:57Speaker 1: You know, we have the effects of decomposition that are
- 20:00Speaker 1: going on here. And if she has been essentially cocooned
- 20:04Speaker 1: in a blanket, say in a warm area we're talking
- 20:07Speaker 1: about Arkansas in the summertime, that's only going to speed
- 20:11Speaker 1: up the process of decomposition. Just think about that from
- 20:13Speaker 1: the perspective of any biology experiment that you do, or
- 20:17Speaker 1: chemistry experiments that you do in high school. Even heat
- 20:20Speaker 1: speeds things up. And so yeah, her features are going
- 20:23Speaker 1: to be distorted. And the other piece of this, Nancy,
- 20:26Speaker 1: is the fact that you cannot properly evaluate injuries at
- 20:31Speaker 1: the scene. And again, you know, I, you know, bring
- 20:34Speaker 1: this point to you. Initially they thought she had been shot,
- 20:38Speaker 1: and of course that turns out not to be the case.
- 20:40Speaker 1: Many and I always take a very hard look at
- 20:43Speaker 1: whoever discovers the body. Take a listen to our friends
- 20:48Speaker 1: at crime online dot com. Linda Collins, Smith's son and
- 20:51Speaker 1: her father become worried when several days passed with no
- 20:54Speaker 1: contact with Collins. The pair go to her Pocahona's home
- 20:57Speaker 1: and make a grizzly discovery. Listen to this nine and
- 21:00Speaker 1: one call obtained by Kai t eight. Okay, I mean
- 21:03Speaker 1: you have you made contact with her? Is she in
- 21:06Speaker 1: the house? No? If you'd out thought, I mean, she's
- 21:09Speaker 1: wrapped in a blanket underneath the harp out thud, She's
- 21:12Speaker 1: wrapped in a blanket under a tarp outside. Okay, have
- 21:16Speaker 1: you tried to check for a pulse? Butch finds a
- 21:20Speaker 1: body under a tarp in the driveway of his mother's home.
- 21:23Speaker 1: I will never not be able to see that picture
- 21:26Speaker 1: burning in my brain. Initially, police say the body is
- 21:29Speaker 1: too decomposed for identification. Wow, So her son finds the body,
- 21:36Speaker 1: but he goes there. Let me understand. You tell me leavipage,
- 21:40Speaker 1: climb online dot com. How was Linda Collins Smith body found? Okay?
- 21:45Speaker 1: So Nancy May twenty eight, Linda Collins Smith quit posting
- 21:50Speaker 1: on social media and her family had tried to get
- 21:53Speaker 1: in touch with her and they could not. So her
- 21:55Speaker 1: son and her father actually drove to her home and
- 21:59Speaker 1: that is when they found the body covered in a
- 22:02Speaker 1: tarp and wrapped in the blanket, and they called nine
- 22:05Speaker 1: two Senator Missy Irvin joining us from Arkansas. Do you
- 22:09Speaker 1: remember the moment you learned Linda was dead? Yes, I do. Um,
- 22:16Speaker 1: you know, it was it was It was haunting and
- 22:19Speaker 1: it was disturbing because I think all of us, as
- 22:24Speaker 1: female legislators have been in scary situations. I've been stalked,
- 22:29Speaker 1: I've received horrible phone calls to my home, threatening me,
- 22:33Speaker 1: threatening to take my life, threatening to take my children's life.
- 22:38Speaker 1: And so it just came crashing down, I think on
- 22:42Speaker 1: me and the other female legislators I served with. You
- 22:47Speaker 1: know that this is reality. It happens to one of us,
- 22:51Speaker 1: and you know, and it happened to Linda, and you know,
- 22:56Speaker 1: it's almost like she was punished for standing up for
- 22:59Speaker 1: what she believed in and she was, you know, and
- 23:02Speaker 1: somebody took her voice and that was and did something
- 23:07Speaker 1: just so heinous and just so horrible to her, and
- 23:09Speaker 1: it was just shocking. It was heartbreaking. It was It
- 23:13Speaker 1: just rocked. It rocked me, and I think it rocked
- 23:17Speaker 1: all of the people that served with her, particularly the
- 23:20Speaker 1: women that served with her. It just rocked us and
- 23:24Speaker 1: showed how vulnerable we are and what people are capable
- 23:29Speaker 1: of doing. And it was just it was just unbelievable
- 23:32Speaker 1: and heartbreaking. Guys, the body of Linda Colin Smith is identify.
- 23:38Speaker 1: Take a listen to this. Deputies joined by Arkansas State
- 23:41Speaker 1: Police's Criminal Investigation Team, a sea of investigators spotted coming
- 23:46Speaker 1: through the former state senator's property. Neighbors living around the
- 23:49Speaker 1: crime scene chose not to go on camera because they
- 23:52Speaker 1: said they're scared to speak out, but they said, this
- 23:54Speaker 1: whole ordeal is like a mystery. Colin Smith's home, located
- 23:58Speaker 1: right off Highway nine in the Edgewood neighborhood, one that
- 24:02Speaker 1: people here told us off camera, is typically quiet. You
- 24:06Speaker 1: can see the vehicles behind the crime scene tape. Neighbors
- 24:09Speaker 1: told us the red truck belongs to the former senator.
- 24:12Speaker 1: That's the vehicle she was spotted driving in about two
- 24:15Speaker 1: weeks ago, and the others we are told belonged to
- 24:18Speaker 1: her father and son. As investigators arrived, neighbors said those
- 24:22Speaker 1: vehicles were left on the property. The body found outside
- 24:26Speaker 1: the home has since been taken to the state crime Lab.
- 24:28Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us, Nancy Grace Killers amongst us