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Girl In The River Thrilling Chilling Mystifying And Can You Solve It Starring Devon Sawa · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: Enjoy your exploration. How are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing good, man. I'm on my fourth espresso. I'm
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  Speaker 2: ready to start bouncing off the walls.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man, you're my kind of creative person, man. That's
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  Speaker 2: Gasoline.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I got to tell you something, and I want
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  Speaker 1: listeners to understand this, and I didn't know it until
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  Speaker 1: the end of the movie, because there's something that happens
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  Speaker 1: inside this movie that really, really generates that vibe of, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God, there's more to this. And I didn't realize
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  Speaker 1: that there was a documentary. And I want the listeners
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  Speaker 1: to go to your movie first, then go to the documentary,
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  Speaker 1: because you go into areas in this movie that create intrigue, mystery, suspense,
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  Speaker 1: as well as maybe some answers in our own real world.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's a heavy thing to carry, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: It was a dark film to shoot.
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  Speaker 3: When we shot this, there was an eerie kind of
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  Speaker 3: mood on set until Tiffany Haddish started doing bits.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not shocked. I was going to ask you about
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  Speaker 1: that because, first of all, I love her as a
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  Speaker 1: serious actress, but I also love her as a comedian.
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  Speaker 1: But I loved how this movie's flow was. And let
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  Speaker 1: me tell you something. The timing that they had, the
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  Speaker 1: directors had you guys on, just the fact that you
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  Speaker 1: were able to allow us, the viewers, to feel like
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  Speaker 1: that we were in your scenes. You gave us time
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  Speaker 1: to breathe. What was that like as an actor?
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  Speaker 3: The movie was shot very quickly.
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  Speaker 2: We had to put a lot of trust in this director.
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  Speaker 3: He had spent five years with this script, and he
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  Speaker 3: had researched it, And we got the script.
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  Speaker 2: About a week before we started shooting.
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  Speaker 3: So we had to put a lot of trust that
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  Speaker 3: he knew what he was talking about, that he had
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  Speaker 3: done his research and that everything was.
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  Speaker 2: On point and factual and whatnot.
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  Speaker 3: And then we just kind of rolled and it was
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  Speaker 3: quick and it was fast and it was dark. And
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  Speaker 3: it was some of those scenes were a lot of
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  Speaker 3: fun as an actor to shoot scenes. My favorite, my,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of my favorite scenes in the, in the
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  Speaker 3: movie are just me and Maggie sitting there talking just rounded.
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  Speaker 3: And it's, it's really, it's really nice as an actor
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  Speaker 3: to do stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that to me is the camaraderie that we feel
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  Speaker 1: on this side of the screen where I'm going, Oh
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  Speaker 1: my God, these actors really do know each other. They
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  Speaker 1: are working on this case together. That, that was the believability.
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  Speaker 1: I swear to God that I felt when I was
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  Speaker 1: getting deeper and deeper into this storyline.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There's also Maggie and I didn't know each other well.
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  Speaker 3: So we were, we like the characters were figuring each
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  Speaker 3: other out as we were doing this. As we were
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  Speaker 3: sitting there, I was seeing her do a lot of
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  Speaker 3: stuff for the first time and, and it just all
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  Speaker 3: played into it.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Two, two detectives that didn't know each other from two
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  Speaker 3: different worlds. Um, and that's kind of how we were
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  Speaker 3: in real life as well. And it, and it just
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  Speaker 3: played all into it. Um, and you know, before we
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  Speaker 3: knew it, we were moving on to different scenes and, and, uh,
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully it all works, man.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's going to work because once listeners really realize
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  Speaker 1: that this is a movie that has so many different
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  Speaker 1: dimensions to it, because Girl in the River not only
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  Speaker 1: has criminology involved, but it also has psychology. And you're right.
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  Speaker 1: Those two characters that come together have no idea. But
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  Speaker 1: God dang it, dude, if I wasn't inspired to find
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  Speaker 1: out how you can make a room move and have
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  Speaker 1: two completely different thought patterns at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was definitely a workshop, this film.
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  Speaker 1: The intensity that we feel on this side. What were
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  Speaker 1: you feeling, dude? Because it had to move through you first.
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  Speaker 3: You get a movie like this because it's shooting so
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  Speaker 3: quickly and we don't have a lot of time.
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  Speaker 2: You go back to your hotel room at night and there's,
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  Speaker 2: for me, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: An insecurity thing or something, but there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: like a holy crap.
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  Speaker 2: I hope I did that right. I hope that this
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  Speaker 2: is going well. I hope that I'm, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean?
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  Speaker 3: It's when you, when you have a bigger budget, there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot more time between takes and setups to discuss
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  Speaker 3: things and make sure, but this, this one was, was fast.
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  Speaker 3: And so you, you'd finish your 12 to 14 hour day.
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  Speaker 3: You go back to your little hotel outside of Ken, Mississippi,
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  Speaker 3: and you'd run it back and just pray that you're
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  Speaker 3: doing everything properly and that you're, you're selling the criminologists
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  Speaker 3: and the psychology and.
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  Speaker 2: And whatnot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I totally get that because people who do live stage
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  Speaker 1: go through that all the time. Even radio people do that,
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  Speaker 1: except we kind of cheat these days by voice tracking.
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  Speaker 1: And I've had radio stations say, you want to come
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  Speaker 1: back to live radio? Oh, hell no. If I can
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  Speaker 1: sit here and I can record this stuff and make
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  Speaker 1: it perfect, I ain't going back anywhere where it's live.
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  Speaker 1: So I totally value where you are as an actor
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  Speaker 1: when you've got that short of amount of time. You
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  Speaker 1: got to put some exercise into your skills.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, TV and independent films are very much the same.
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  Speaker 3: They're a different beast than, for instance, I did Hard
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  Speaker 3: Eyes where we had a lot more time. But for TV,
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  Speaker 3: you know going into it, for every setup, you've got
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  Speaker 3: two to three takes. And then you've got to just
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  Speaker 3: get it out of your mind. You've got to walk away.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to live with it. You're on to something new.
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  Speaker 3: But of course, you do go back to the hotel
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  Speaker 3: room at the end of the night or wherever you're
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  Speaker 3: living and run it back and try.
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  Speaker 2: To think about how you did it.
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  Speaker 1: So now what are those hotel rooms like? Because of
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  Speaker 1: what I'm, I'm the freak that goes back and I
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  Speaker 1: have to analyze everything, break it down, break it down,
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  Speaker 1: break it down. What could I have done better? What
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  Speaker 1: can I do tomorrow? And I mean, I just, I'm
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  Speaker 1: such a freak on that only. And maybe that's just
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  Speaker 1: the radio background, but everything is like, you've got to
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  Speaker 1: break it down so that you can be greater tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you, when you go back, you're just, you, you
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  Speaker 3: run it back. It's, it's almost like you're editing in
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  Speaker 3: your head. Um, And then you just got to keep
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  Speaker 3: telling yourself not to think about it and just go in.
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  Speaker 2: And try to be– every day you should be trying
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  Speaker 2: to do better than the.
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  Speaker 3: Day before without looking like you're trying too hard, if
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  Speaker 3: that makes any sense.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, these things move so quickly. It's just like TV.
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  Speaker 2: It's just– moving, always moving.
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  Speaker 1: I got to tell you, dude, I'm having fun watching
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  Speaker 1: you as an actor because, I mean, to go from
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  Speaker 1: Chuck to this, holy crap, this really does expose a
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  Speaker 1: different side of your acting abilities. And it just excites
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  Speaker 1: me as somebody that's like, what is he going to
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  Speaker 1: do next? What is he going to do in five years?
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  Speaker 1: I got to see what he's going to do.
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  Speaker 2: That's the goal, man.
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  Speaker 3: That's whenever I get something new that comes, you know,
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  Speaker 3: that comes to the emails, I want to see if
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  Speaker 3: it's something that I haven't done. Doing Chucky, doing Hats,
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  Speaker 3: doing Coven Academy, doing They're all so different.
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  Speaker 2: And then to get this and realize, okay, this is
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  Speaker 2: very grounded. This is very subtle.
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  Speaker 3: This, this, this, this movie is all about the words
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  Speaker 3: on the page. I'm going to go challenge myself and
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  Speaker 3: see if I can make this work. And then I'll
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  Speaker 3: go back to Duke Coven where it's larger than a
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  Speaker 3: little bit larger than my Chucky, which is huge.
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  Speaker 2: And you got Jennifer Tilly running around.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just blessed that I get to do all this
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  Speaker 3: stuff and that it's.
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  Speaker 2: Not all one note.
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  Speaker 1: So then as a student of acting, did you learn
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  Speaker 1: from Tiffany Haddish that you can mix comedy, you can
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  Speaker 1: mix it all together into one human body and bring
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  Speaker 1: it forward? Because, I mean, like I said, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I was so mesmerized by her real life acting that
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  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, my God, she's also got texture now.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, but you now as an actor, do
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  Speaker 1: you learn from her comedy appeal? And are we going
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  Speaker 1: to see you in a rom-com? Are we going to
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  Speaker 1: see you something in very, very, very funny things?
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  Speaker 3: Well, a rom-com maybe, but I tell you one thing.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I could ever get on the
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  Speaker 3: stage like Tiffany. And when she's on set, like we
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  Speaker 3: did that scene where the town comes in and they're
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  Speaker 3: all sitting in the church.
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  Speaker 2: There's like a lot of people there. And it was
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  Speaker 2: a very serious scene. There was a death and we
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  Speaker 2: were talking to the town and they're all rioting and yada, yada, yada.
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  Speaker 2: But between takes, I don't know whether she was.
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  Speaker 3: Working on bits for her new stand-up or everything, but
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  Speaker 3: she had the place just perfect. It was it was,
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  Speaker 3: you know, she was on and then they would say, OK,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to shoot and she would just right back
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  Speaker 3: into it.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, so you watch that.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know if I could ever get on
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  Speaker 3: stage and do what she does.
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  Speaker 2: But, you know, it's very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I want listeners and viewers to understand you are
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  Speaker 1: not going to figure this one out. No, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's like just enjoy the ride and go into it
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  Speaker 1: because how this movie ends is nowhere near what you
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  Speaker 1: think your imagination is going to pump out.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And also, if you do figure it out, if for
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  Speaker 3: some reason you have an idea in the very beginning,
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  Speaker 3: it's interesting to see how it unravels and why it happens.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what I mean? But yeah, it's a
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  Speaker 2: great film. It's a really great film.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and that's the reason why I've seen it three times,
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  Speaker 1: because I am on that second and third time. What
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  Speaker 1: was I doing? I was going back to look at
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  Speaker 1: the Easter eggs. And I love it when they do that.
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  Speaker 1: Because that teaches me as a writer that it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God, look what they got away with. And we
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  Speaker 1: didn't even notice it until we went back to it.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the rawness of the butcher's interrogation. Come on now.
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  Speaker 1: That feeling in that situation. I mean, I would have
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  Speaker 1: folded immediately and just said, whatever crime you're blaming me of,
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  Speaker 1: I did it.
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  Speaker 2: I did it.
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  Speaker 1: How do I know that? Because you're making me feel
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  Speaker 1: like I did it.
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  Speaker 2: And those are the types of scenes that drew me
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  Speaker 2: to the scripts.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to play those old 90s crime noir interrogators.
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  Speaker 3: scenes every actor wants to do those scenes those scenes
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  Speaker 3: are so much fun.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and the way that you guys break everything down,
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  Speaker 1: this goes all the way back to that comment where
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  Speaker 1: you give us enough information and room to breathe in this.
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  Speaker 1: And I was so fascinated with the timing of it.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, the teeth, the blood, everything that was
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  Speaker 1: so real. And you made me feel like that I
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  Speaker 1: was part of a true crime novel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you're shooting.
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  Speaker 3: Out of order, when you're not shooting chronologically, you have
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  Speaker 3: to put a lot of trust in the director and
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  Speaker 3: the writer that they've got it right, that we're saying
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  Speaker 3: everything correctly.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, it all worked out.
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  Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that really got my
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  Speaker 1: attention as well was that slap. felt very real. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil it for the, for the
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  Speaker 1: readers and the listeners. And the thing is, is that
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  Speaker 1: when you're facing the parents, the way that it is
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  Speaker 1: faced and to get that slap, I often wonder, was
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  Speaker 1: it real?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 3: Because you're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 2: It did.
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  Speaker 4: They sold that slap very well, but she didn't, she
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  Speaker 4: didn't even hit me. They, the way they do, the
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  Speaker 4: way the camera was set up, you know, it was,
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  Speaker 4: it was an inch from my face when she went
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  Speaker 4: across and, but yeah, man, I was, it was a,
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  Speaker 4: she sold that.
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  Speaker 2: She sold that for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Wow. Because I mean, everything about that, it's the
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  Speaker 1: chill and, and you know what? And maybe that it's
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  Speaker 1: almost like the subtitle of this movie should be the
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  Speaker 1: chill because you're going to get chills all the way
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  Speaker 1: through this movie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. We'll be right back with Devin
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  Speaker 1: Sawa coming up next. The name of the movie, Girl
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  Speaker 1: in the River. Go into this one expecting to be shocked.
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  Speaker 1: We are back with actor Devin Sawa. You know, what's
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  Speaker 1: really interesting about you is that we've always heard of
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  Speaker 1: people that go to Vancouver to go to Stanley Park,
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  Speaker 1: or they go up there, they do their acting, but
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  Speaker 1: I've never met anybody that was actually born in Vancouver.
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  Speaker 1: And I've been to Vancouver, I've been to Victoria, and
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  Speaker 1: I've never met anybody that was born there, and all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, here you are! Da-da-da-da-da-da!
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  Speaker 2: It's a great town, and I go back.
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  Speaker 3: Both sides of our family, my wife's family, my family,
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  Speaker 3: they're all up there still. We go up there at
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  Speaker 3: least once a year, sometimes more than that. My kids
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  Speaker 3: love it up there. It was a great place to
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  Speaker 3: have a childhood.
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  Speaker 1: I bet it was because I know that every time
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  Speaker 1: we visited, and I always told myself, don't go up
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  Speaker 1: there as a tourist. Don't do it. Don't do it.
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  Speaker 1: Pretend that you live here. And it's like you walk
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  Speaker 1: around there and you can't help but be the tourist
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  Speaker 1: because even the community, the people that make that town work,
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  Speaker 1: it's not just the tall buildings. It's the people that
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  Speaker 1: make Vancouver work.
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  Speaker 3: We were much nicer in the 90s and 80s, though.
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  Speaker 3: I think with the internet, we've snubbed it.
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  Speaker 2: Up a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Would you do something like this again except the next
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  Speaker 1: time would you do it in a binge watch that's
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  Speaker 1: got like several different seasons to it because it seems
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  Speaker 1: like that's who we are these days give me the binge.
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  Speaker 3: Watch Yeah, I would like to do something like this
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  Speaker 3: where it's 10 episodes, maybe one crime per season kind
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  Speaker 3: of show.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you. That's where we are right now.
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  Speaker 3: That's the medium of film that we're in. Yeah, this
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  Speaker 3: kind of show would be great to stretch over 10
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  Speaker 3: one-hour episodes.
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  Speaker 2: And I would be so into doing it.
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  Speaker 1: And yet at the same time, though, while you're watching
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  Speaker 1: the movie, whatever you're doing inside your body, you know,
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  Speaker 1: screaming for that binge watch, you answer every question that
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  Speaker 1: I need as a binge watcher. And so when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to an end, you're going, I'm satisfied. Oh, my God,
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  Speaker 1: I got what I needed when I started this movie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, 100%.
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  Speaker 1: It's just amazing how you guys are able to do this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they always say that making movies is a
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  Speaker 1: miracle and it's like, and then we get on this
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  Speaker 1: side of the movie and it's like, what, what kind
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  Speaker 1: of a miracle did you get to experience? And did
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  Speaker 1: you take good notes?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, making movies is, is the best job ever. I,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I took a break from the film business.
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  Speaker 3: I got back into it and realized how much I
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  Speaker 3: love it. I have the best job in the world,
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  Speaker 3: in my opinion. And I love what I do. Um,
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  Speaker 3: and I learned something every time I do a film.
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  Speaker 2: Um, And I get to travel to some amazing places.
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  Speaker 3: Canton, Mississippi is a phenomenal little town in Mississippi that
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  Speaker 3: I never in a million years thought I would ever
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  Speaker 3: be in. And I was and I loved it. I
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  Speaker 3: just feel blessed and lucky.
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  Speaker 1: So being down there in the south, which is where
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  Speaker 1: I am, how'd you like the food? Did you did
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  Speaker 1: you get to sample and some of the real authentic
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  Speaker 1: southern food?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love. Listen, I would be I would be.
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  Speaker 3: 30, 40 pounds heavier than I am now.
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  Speaker 2: If I lived in the South, I love New Orleans.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Some of the greatest food.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: I remember Northern Florida having some amazing food, Savannah. I
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: did two movies in Savannah and what I mean, the
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: South is just.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: The food there is amazing.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: You know, and everybody always talks about how hot it
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: is down here. But the thing about it is, though,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: isn't that what really creates the accent and the way
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: of life in this section of the world? Because if
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: you're coming down here to do a movie, you've got
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: to adopt who we are.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: Southern hospitality is second to none. It really, you know,
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: Canadians are nice and people from the South are nice.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: It's it's. It's a great place to shoot. I'm always
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: happy when I hear I'm going there. I've done a
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff in Georgia, all over Georgia. I love
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: going to the South.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: This movie is really amazing in the way of capturing
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: what I call the fear factor. As a viewer, am
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I supposed to feel fear because I did?
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, you were absolutely supposed to feel. You're supposed to
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: be uncomfortable. We're supposed to make you feel uncomfortable.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: You did. You did.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: And that's the goal with this kind of film.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: How do you do that? What is the magic? What
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: are they telling you in your ears? Because I've been
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: there with directors who are telling me, this is who
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: you're talking to. This is who she is. This is,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: you know, how many kids she has, what car she drives.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, they get into your mind so well. And
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: then when you deliver those lines, you understand it. But
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: when you're delivering these emotions, who's talking to you and
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: how do you know to go there?
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: You've got to put 100% trust in the writing. There's
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: a big part of a film like this working is
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: the casting, all the parts.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Every size part in the film.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Has to have a believable character, which creates chemistry.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: And then all the actors have to be 100% in.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: And I think we all were. And so that's why
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: it kind of worked so well.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: One of the most mind-blowing scenes in the movie, and
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I would love to see how you dealt with it.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: This is the line. I understand what you're going through.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Do you? Do you have children? My God, my heart
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: stopped when that line came through.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Brandon Batson, he wrote some great stuff for us.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: But it's so real. I mean, is this what Spielberg
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: is talking about when he says that today's modern day
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: directors understand who their viewers are and how to use
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: writing to its absolute highest potential?
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that, I think Brandon's inspiration for this
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: was more than nine.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: It was to take us back to those nineties films.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Um, I don't think, I don't think we get enough
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: of these kinds of films nowadays. I like to, Films
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: nowadays move so quickly. We never just settle in for
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: a scene. We never sit with characters and talk. Um, I,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: and I missed that. And that's something that drew me
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: to this film is that we can just sit down
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: and listen and, and, and find out who these people are.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Well, you had to be doing that during the water
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: scene when, when the gentleman is sitting there and he's
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: explaining the reason why the body was thrown into the water.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I never even thought about the flow of the scent
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: going downstream. I mean, it's like, that's the kind of
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: stuff that we learn is armchair quarterback, true crime solvers.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: The details are amazing.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: And also during that scene, we had the luck, I guess,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: that that.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Train just started coming through at the right time.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: And so they saw that train coming and instead of
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: waiting for it to pass through... Brandon said, OK, let's
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: shoot this. And we just we just started rolling with it.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: And we got that train and it's all it's all
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: so beautiful and it works. And yeah.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Because I actually sat there thinking, oh,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: come on now. This had to be they had to
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: have set this up. This is this. There's no way
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: that this naturally happened like this. And then to hear
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: that it did. That to me is real honest to
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: God movie making when you can take the atmosphere atmosphere
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: of everything around you and make it a part of
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: the story.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Sometimes when you have a budget this big, you have
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: to just roll with things.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: And sometimes the film guides send you some freebies, and
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: that was.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: A freebie that worked well.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: What else are you doing? Because I want to know
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: also if you're getting into writing. Because when you start
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: doing things like this, and I can see how you
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: are as an actor, there's no way that it's not
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: going onto a sheet of paper from the tip of
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: your pen.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I write a little bit. I've been working a lot
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I've been very fortunate. to, to, to do some very, um,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: cool things this year. Coming Academy comes out in October 1st.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: It's a Disney plus show about a school for little witches.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: And I'm, I'm excited to be making my first kind
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: of project for my kids. I mean, when I was
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: pitched this project, when I was on the phone in
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: my car, I was on speakerphone and my daughter was
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: sitting next to me and I wasn't particularly interested that
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: much in the idea of it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: But when I looked over at.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: My daughter, her little eyes were so wide and, um,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: mesmerized at the thought of a school for, for teenage witches.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: And I did it and it was just the best
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: experience ever. Um, comes out October 1st, and we're about
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: to start doing press for that. Yeah, I've had a
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: great year. I've had a couple other cool things that
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I can't talk about, but it's been a ride this year, man.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: It's been a real ride.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: You know, I like that when actors do that, when
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: they tell me there's something I'm doing that I can't
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: talk about because we're going to talk in the future again.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to bring that up. And it says,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I love that kind of stuff because I'm going to go,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: we talked about this, but you, we couldn't talk about it,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: but we did. We talked about it.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: One in particular thing, one in particular thing I did
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: this year that I'm not allowed to talk about yet.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I did with one of my childhood heroes.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: And I want to talk about it so bad because
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I had, I would have done it for free. I
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: was like, you'll understand when in a couple of months
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: when it, when it drops and yes, please bring it up. Like, Oh,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: that must've been what you were talking about.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Well, man, you got to come back to this show
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: anytime in the future. Cause the door is always going
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: to be open for you.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. And I will.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Well, you be brilliant today. And thank you for this
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: movie because it is the ultimate escape, but at the
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: same time, it will chill the hell out of you.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Thanks, man.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you watching and supporting and definitely have me
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: back to talk about the thing.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: That I can't talk about.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, man. Be brilliant today, okay? All right, man.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: You too.