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George King, Greek/Hellenic researcher, fitness trainer, psychoanalyst and longevity coach. · Ageless and Timeless Podcast®

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Good morning everyone. This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless. I'm here
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in California today. It's a beautiful day here in the San Francisco Bay area.
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Um So, however, my guest, George King, who you will
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meet in just a moment, is in Athens, Greece. So George,
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welcome and sorry we've got you up a little late there right your time.
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Yeah, yeah, it's ten hours difference right from here. But how are
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you doing with all the fires in Greece these days? This is terrible.
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Yeah, the situation is pretty bad at the moment in Greece, the little
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of fires going on, and you know, it's a devastating the situation.
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And the government supports the great degree but not fully. And other people are
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volunteering to help. But you know, my heart is with the people that
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they've lost a lot of values there and the properties and a lot of animals
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have been have been gone from from there. It's crazy. George, welcome
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to Ageless and Timeless. We're very happy to have you, and at such
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a distance. And I told everyone when I heard about you that this is
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going to incentivize my trip. That's you're on number one in Greece was until
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these fires on my bucket list, but this is now knowing you, it's
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going to incentivize me to get over there and get into the into your program
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so I can get looking like the rest of your clientele. So let's talk
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about you and how you got to where you are. So I know when
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you and I spoke originally, you told me you had a life shattering experience
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when you were fifteen years old and your mother was diagnosed with breast stage four
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breast cancer. And that was kind of what a lot of people have in
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life, which are these turning points, these these cataclysmic experiences that changed their
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lives forever. So tell us how this affected you and what you did about
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it, and how this is influenced your journey ever since. That's a very
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good question and the catalyst to my growth. I would say I will attribute
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this to my mother's breast cancer when I was very young, I think even
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earlier, like thirteen at a time, it was very memorable, and I
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would say I can remember my mother screaming from the pains. I would remember
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the sounds of the puke king and all that. It was like, I
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have to help, I have to find a solution. I want to be
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healthy and I want to focus on my longevity. I can't go through this.
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My mother can go through this. So at the time, you know,
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she survives, she's now pretty good and very healthy. Of course,
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I coach her at the same time with supplementation and exercised protocols and so on.
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But I would say at the time, it was like the small glimpse
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of what there is something here for me that I want to focus on health.
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And that's where I started to research more about what I want to do
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in life. Then I started to pursue my degree bachelor's degree in psychology and
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cognitive science, and that's where I started to see my real growth on the
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health element and the health aspect. And because I was researching cognitive studies,
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studies that involve the cognition, the improvement and the cognition, which is one
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of the pathways of longevity, in one of the pathways that we have to
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focus and hope for. And I found that there is a great correlation between
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cognition and longevity, and that's where I started, you know, to unravel
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its pillar. Each step, I said, Okay, how can improve my
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cognition? I said there is a there are a lot of studies conducted on
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cocoa powder, and that helps the cognition. And I started to incorporate more
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cocoa potter, like just that was very very simple step. That's very very
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simple step. And I started to incorporate that. And I started to see
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improvements on my memory of my performance, academic performance, if you may,
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and more of my writing skills, and to see there is something going on
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with the longevity and focusing longevity at the same time I was pursuing I was
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in gam enthusiast at the time, and I was pursuing a healthy body.
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And that's where I started to see there is a connection between the body and
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there is a connection between nutraceuticals, which is the natural supplementations. As I
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said to cocoa potter, and I, you know, slowly start to add
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things together, like I want to work out, I want to improve my
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health, but at the same time, I wanted to see my body very
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ripped, my body very lean. And I couldn't find any answers to that.
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Everyone was having a different opinions. Everyone had the notion of taking steroids
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and very illicit substances, which I wasn't very fond of because I was thinking,
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I want to pursue longevity. I want to be healthy, and I
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said, there must be a way that naturally, I can be lean,
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Naturally can attain a physical body that I love and I want to have it
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strong. There must be a natural way. So I started to read scientific
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papers, read academic records on fasting, on specific nutraceuticals that we will talk
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about it that extend lifespan and more precisely mammalian lifespan, because there is a
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huge difference of the research to that. And then I started to see the
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results of that. I started to be lean. I started to have crazy
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energy, and I use the crazy word because I want to, you know,
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intensify the meaning of the difference. Before I would be very droused,
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I would have brain fun But when I started to focus on longevity, things
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started to shift. My body started to become different. And I saw that
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when people started to approach me and they were telling me, how did you
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attain that physique? That's impressive, And at the time I couldn't see that
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physique on my own eyes because I was immersed to the process and the pursuit
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of longevity. I was that immersed that I couldn't see the results, and
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I remember very basically that I started crying. When I went back home.
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I said, what I have attained. I can't believe that. And I
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started like, I'm telling you, it's very moving for me. And I
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made this happen because of the discipline that it provides you. At the same
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time following longevity, it provides you with a proper step by step guide that
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you have to follow. And if you don't follow it, for example,
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you eat once coca powder that extends your life span, then if you don't
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put it in a specific protocol of yours, how it's going to be contributing
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to health. That was very important to mention. And then I started to,
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this exciting company. I understand that you know this event with your mother was
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the incentive and then the rest was then up to you. Obviously, you
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had a reason and a set of intentions that you just explain, and I
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think those are admirable. This is where I think people end up maybe falling
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off the wagon. So they see a goal, they have a goal,
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um, like you did, and they they want to achieve, and then
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they get into the actual process, the protocol, and they can't seem to
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do what you did. What what is it that you think separates you,
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a person like you from a lot of other people who just cannot achieve the
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way you have the huge dramatic changes in your in your body and your health.
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Um, what are those characteristics that people need to look at to evaluate
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whether they can be a candidate for a program that's as rigorous as yours.
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I can say had a certain inclination to health as a teenager, So I
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would say these had people at a role to my growth and my determination.
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But I would say that personal traits that anyone that someone has to cultivate in
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order to sue something strict as that is something very let's say, it might
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sound not weird, but it may sound very vague. I would say,
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is the love of thyself, and I mean the love of thyself that you
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first you have to acknowledge that you love yourself to a great degree and you
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want to move a step forward. Maybe you don't love yourself at the moment,
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but that is also love that you acknowledge that you can be better that
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process. That small step is identifying of where you want to go. So
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I would say step number one is identification of the process of where I am
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and where I want to go. And then appreciating yourself and providing with a
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proper love and affection to the process and trusting is a step number two.
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Trust the process. Trust yourself, because if you don't trust yourself, how
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can you trust the process. Which I say a lot of clients have a
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struggle with is they don't trust themselves. They don't trust themselves the process of
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the protocol or any protocol of longevity. So what I tell them is,
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I want you to first trust yourself and trust the process. You're going to
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make an agreement between you and the process, and then for six months,
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not three months, not two months, no one months, just six months,
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because in six months you can completely transform any human body that exists.
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In six months, anyone can transform. So make a contract with yourself,
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make a contract that hey, I want to go in this process. And
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I would say What helped me a lot on that, which is very beneficial
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for everyone who's listening, is I had two other friends and then became three.
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That we followed the specific protocol, that we followed very strict diet and
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that motivation. We exchange that energy to each other, and that pursue that
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we will go tomorrow to the gym, that we will follow the specific neutral
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cuticles, we will drink the shake at the end of the workout, and
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we will be fasting all day long. It was like a commodity for us
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to work this way, so we were working as a team independently, if
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you may. That was quite intriguing in the aspect of keeping yourself in the
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process because a lot of caveats do exist in that process of losing a person,
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breakups, psychological things, and so on. So we have to be
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strong and independent in order to trust the process. So it comes with determination
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and trust, I would say, and that a lot of people say,
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put visualize, like just do a mantra that says, basically, you know,
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reinforces your goals by just saying them, I am this, which you
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know, I am ripped, I am I am healthy, you know,
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and those things kind of get into the cognitive side that you were studying,
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so that people begin to believe in what you believe you can achieve. Right,
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that's correct, That's correct. So tell us a little bit more about
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the program itself. So if I were your client and I were in Athens
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with you, what would we be doing? Let's start today? What would
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how would it unfold? First is the step as I told you, trust
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me and trust the process. I believe like we can step forward to that
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because what play that also important role to that was I trusted that literature behind
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the longevity. So that's very very important to mention. I would say step
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number one is getting ready for something very rigorous, and I mean rigorous is
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twenty twenty to twenty three hours of fasting is quite rigorous for individuals that they
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haven't fasted, So very step to the introduction to fasting is sixteen hours and
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the and the goal is to increase this duration into eighteen hours. So we
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start with sixteen hours. We started by devoiding entirely the breakfast and break fast
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in the sixte hours, so it's eat the window of eight hours, and
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then we split the mills on how you're gonna be working on the mills on
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specific and I gonna speak about nutrition later. But George, excuse me for
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interesting, but that's really easy because if you go to bed, I mean,
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I'm saying this, you know from personal experience. But if you go
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to bed, let's say at ten o'clock, ten pm, and you don't
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eat until the next day, let's say eleven or twelve, well, let's
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see how many hours. That's thirteen, right, so okay, so let's
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just say you wait till one or two. So there's your sixteen hours right
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ten ten am, ten pm at night to ten am. The next day's
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twelve hours and then four more eleven, twelve, one, two. So
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so yeah, maybe it isn't so easy because a lot of people do need
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that first meal, but yet what you're providing them is an elixir that will
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keep them going because they're going to be doing workouts too. So but I
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mean, honestly, I think if you use sleep as a part of that
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fasting, uh, there's you know, eight or nine hours right there of
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the sixteen. So I'm just trying to simplify it for anybody that's listening that
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saying, oh, I could never do that, and I know intermit fasting
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everybody, even you know, it's a buzzword in all the health literature.
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There are some people that you know, basically are you know, for it,
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and then there are others that find reasons for it not to be good.
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And I think the biggest reason that I hear from people that are criticizing
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any fastening is the need for protein, and that the body needs protein and
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you're not getting the protein obviously as much when you're when you're not eating.
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So let's let's focus on that just for a moment, because it is an
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objection about fastening, and I think that anyone listening is going to have a
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bit of a devil's advocate approach, particularly if they're not keen on fasting.
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So let's talk about the pros and cons. Go ahead, it's it's it's
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your stage to talk about. I believe that I support the sentiment and the
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notion that people do face difficulties on the fasting and the protein restrictions. But
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you brought up two very interesting subjects. One is the fasting and how to
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properly implement the fasting. That's why I previously mentioned a sixteen hours duration the
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fastening as a startup. This is a sort of like and the goal is
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to process it to eighteen hours, and then the goal is to go up
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to twenty hours and twenty two hours, and that's the goal. Now there
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is an interesting leadacure behind the exceeding the wind of twenty four hours, which
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is going to be very challenging for people, and I don't support that because
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the catabolism that the body will face is quite increased and that's not contributing for
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being ripped and having a physique. This is very very important because if we
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talk about getting ripped at the same time, we need to provide the proper
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nutrients and the proper as you said, the proper proteins and amino acids to
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provide the growth to our body. So if we exceed the twenty four hours
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of the fasting is a big no if someone wants to get ripped. But
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to come back to the protein intake, there is an interesting literature behind the
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restriction on the protein and that extends the human lifespan, the mammali lifespan,
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let's say for them. For the proper wording, leould say, and in
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my case, I consider the intensity and the intensity of the workouts to be
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attributed to how you set your protein intake. So if your training is very
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rigorous, I would say, increase the protein intake. And now what is
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a proper protein intake? Then we can we can talk about ideal. I
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would say not to surpass one hundred and twenty grams of protein intake an individual,
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which is quite high protein. And eighty five eighty five grams to one
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hundred and twenty five grams I believe is the duration and the range that we
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have to consider for protein intake. Now, of course that depends to individuals
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and the needs that they have. But here comes the answer to how can
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it provide the proper protein to my body while I'm fasting? And here is
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where I want to direct the conversation to the way that you break your fast
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is the most crucial thing that anyone can do, because as soon while you're
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fasting, your body goes through a process of autophagy of expagating toxins through the
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adduction of the phase to enzyme and so on, and the body is in
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a stress mode. It raises the cortisol, which is antechnistic of stus to
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run and all of that. So we need to count the body down and
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prepare it for the nutrition, because we have already previously stressed the body with
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the training. So the way that we break the fastest has to be with
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a liquid floor. It can be a smoothie, it can be a protein
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shake, it can be anything that is not going to be a solid food.
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Let's say, and I stress this because I see a lot of people
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that are fasting for a lot of hours and the first thing that they do
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is they'd rise this that they start to eat, not to let the body
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absorb it first. So I would say breaking the fast with a protein shake,
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having a multivitamin and a bunch of amino acids, it will be the
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most optimal way to ensure that the body will absorb the nutrients, absorb the
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proteins, and utilize that fuel while sleeping for the next day. You know,
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I realized just after we started chatting about this, said, actually the
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fastest actually even easier than I said, because if you go to bed I
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mean, if you eat your last at ending at six or seven, let's
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say seven, that's more reasonable, and then you go to bed at ten,
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because you should have three hours of empty you know, stomach to digest
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before you go to bed. Otherwise you're you know, you're probably putting a
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lot of that evening meal into fat, right, so you want to maybe
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do a little exercise after, like a walk or whatever to burn off the
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calories and the sugar part of it. So okay. So so that's even
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easier because if you stop eating at seven and you don't eat again for sixteen
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hours and you're you know, you're eating in the mid morning, that's not
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that hard to wait as long as you're drinking things like you're describing. So
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I just want to make that correction because I realized after hey, Michelle,
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you you you miscalculated, because not when you go to bed, it's it's
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when you stop eating that you're starting your fast. So anyway, so there
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was that. But now back to the protein. So I just had a
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gas on my podcast doctor Elizabeth Yereth and and I also am about to have
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a guest that's also a fitness trainer, and both of them have said that
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you should have one pound of one gram approachein for every pound of your body
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weight. But from what you just said, most you know, people are
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not one hundred and twenty pounds at least not men, So Um, so
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what would you say about that? That that that one gram approachein per one
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pound of body weight, which means that you know, a person that's one
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hundred and thirty five, like a woman, you know, one hundred and
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thirty five, it's going to need one hundred and thirty five grams of protein.
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That's a pretty daunting task for a lot of people, particularly if they're
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not eating twenty three hours a day, so I mean, if they're fasting
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like you're describing, so even with sixteen hours. So so I think it's
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a challenge. And so I guess that leads us segue now to the actual
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new autrition that you're proposing in your program, because that will obviously you focus
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on this. And you know how important protein is because if you don't have
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protein, you're going to have you could have socopenia, right, you can
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lose muscle, and and you're going to have people that are you know,
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getting ill rather than getting well, so particularly as they're getting older, because
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it's very it's more difficult to have muscle as you get older, right,
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because you're human. Hormone reduces your testops, your own levels reduced the whole
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you know, all of the things that and causing a lot of bodybuilders to
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take HGH supplements and injections. So which are you know, somewhat controversial and
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even maybe dangerous. So um, So let's go back to maybe just build
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the pyramid here. Okay, So let's talk about how each meal that you're
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even even the liquid meals that are going to be used to be supplementing the
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fast, that are that are not part of the actual eating of the meal,
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like you like your dinner would be. Um. So let's say,
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okay, what what starts out? So if the first thing in the morning,
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give me what the protocol is, what give us I should say all
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of our viewers, what is the very first thing that you're going to eat
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or drink? I should say when you wake up? So let's start,
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Yeah, from the beginning. The protein shake, the liquid shake that we
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will break the fast is different than what we will consume during the fast because
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during the fast we want to catabolize the proteins they want to enhance. Also,
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fig which comes with turmeric, is one of the supplements that we use.
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Ginger is another one supplement that we use to enhance the tough expurgate the
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toxins from the body. The other one is LaCosta, which independently extends mammalian
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lifespan as is very famous in the on THG world. But we define could
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you define autophagy first for everybody? Yeah? Correct. Autopogy is the process
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where the proteins and the membranes getting used from the body and destroyed as energy.
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So the body starts to destroy the old cells to the old membrans and
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the old and damaged proteins for energy and explagation purposes. And that's the process
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of where we start to retard the aging process. So let's say it's the
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clean sink and renewal process to make it very very simple, and that of
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course contributes to independent extent or lifespan. So that's those three things you just
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mentioned. Are all powders to powder of course human uh like to coosamine powder.
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Yeah, that's correct. That yeah, So so how do people go
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and get these powders? Where where do you suggest they go if they want
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to start this program on their own, I would say the step number one
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is the procurbinant of the supplementation should be very minimal role. If someone wants
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to attribute something else there as this and the first step is to procure supplements
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that they're extracts extractive so we can avoid any data issues that many of my
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clients have codes they do have and they had because the process of the fasting
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helps them heal. I would say the ginger, it should be procured as
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a ginger extract from an online pharmacy, from an online platform, just to
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make sure that it is an extraction version of the herb. And the stress
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is because a lot of people are very they have issues with some botanical infusions
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and some herbs, and that's a cavet because the herbs contain a lot of
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things. So if you want to minimize the problem, then we want to
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use and maximize, of course the results. We want to use extractions of
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the herb. So your extract, homeric extract and customing, which is already
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an extracted version, can be protrated from a pharmacy, an online platform.
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Just make sure it's in an extraction version. And then how do you mix
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those three to get the elixir? This is the morning This is the morning
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autophagic elixir, which is which is diluted in warm water one hundred million CRuMs
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fifty millik grums. It really depends on the person and slowly sipping it until
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the full is consumed. And where is the protein and that elixer. This
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is not in the protein because we don't break the fast yet. This is
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like to cleanse it the proteins. As soon as we finish the fastening window,
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which is it depends on the person sixteen hours or eighteen hours or twenty
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hours, then we have the protein, then the proteins. Because the protein
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spikes the insulin spikes all those unabolic hormones that we need to spike while in
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the more learning, while the process goes by and the tough page is a
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high, we don't want to spike the empt or we don't want to spike
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all those hormones because when I use autogen, so when when I retard topages
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the process after the training and the process at the end of the fasting window,
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which is when we break the fast. So when we break the fastest
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where we induce and incorporate the protein intake to be in a liquid form.
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As I said the lixir. Now what about the cocao powder? Where is
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that sitting in? This is on the protein shake that we break the fast.
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It fits on the on the protein shake we break the fast. It
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has the protein, the planet based protein, and it has the cacao powder.
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Now, of course, how powder can be used during the fast thing
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to help individuals to suppress grilling secretion, which is a hunger hormone, to
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suppress let's say, the hunger, and help body detoxify. Because coco powder
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also is very powerful antioxidant, one of the most powerful antidents. So we
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can use minimal amounts of cacaal potter during the day with hot water. Ideally,
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the doses that I would recommend is have a teaspoon to start with,
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and somebody can in the beginning. Somebody can use a teaspoon, but I
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would recommend have a teaspoon to start So what did you think about what I
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said on the protein about one grammo protein for a pound of weight. Could
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would you be supportive of that? Pieces that that is a high It's much
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higher than what you just said, But would you would you maybe agree to
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that or do you think you have an objection to that? I'm not averse
28:44
to that. I would say it really depends on the individual. Like as
28:48
much as I want to give a crystal clear answer, it really depends on
28:53
the individual. But this is a good foundation. But someone can have issues
28:57
with high protein diets. Someone to have GAD issues. There are certain elements
29:02
of the protein, especially on the high protein, that we have to face.
29:06
I had a client of mine, for example, that he couldn't digest
29:10
high mounts of protein. If we exceeded thirty five grams on every meal of
29:14
protein, he would stay in the bathroom forever. He would not be able
29:18
to digest it, and he would be sick. So that comes back to
29:21
mind. The other element that I talked to you about was what is the
29:25
ideal protein intake? And that really depends on the individual's needs and how can
29:30
the body utilize the protein because most of the protein maybe it's not utilized from
29:34
the body. How can we know if we experience the GAD issues, I'm
29:37
normal and pains and so on. I would say that reference that you mentioned
29:42
is good to start with, but it really depends on the individual intensity of
29:47
the workouts, and if someone has high expectations to grow more muscles. Let's
29:52
say, right, okay, so now we're at the sixteen or eighteen hour
29:57
point, then what happened at the time If we decide to do you want
30:03
to break the fast at eighteen hours. Then we include the mixture that has
30:07
the protein, the plant based protein, no wave protein, nothing that will
30:11
spike the insulin very high. We want to spike inst at the time,
30:17
so we break the fast. That's why we call it the breakfast, because
30:19
we break the fast of the time. Right. So we have the coal
30:22
powder at the plant based protein, and amino acids and the multi vitamin and
30:27
an enzyme that will help the body that help the body break down the protein
30:33
which is brombling which comes from the pineapple, and it's very mili in longevity
30:37
sphere. It helps a lot to break the lixure and it helps a lot
30:41
to the body to digest it and process all of these amounts of protein and
30:47
the stress that this shake may induce, because everything induces stress. So this
30:52
is the way that we break the fast. You can add it in water
30:56
or it depends if you want to. Let's say, um use milk and
31:03
I say the word milk a plant based drink, say not milk a cow's
31:07
milk, right, I would say, depends on the goals of the individual.
31:14
You can be in a basis of water or in a basis of a
31:18
of a milk drink. Yeah, so milk when you say milk there you
31:22
meant like almond milk or coconut milk, not or not cow's milk. That's
31:26
what you clarified. So milk is a good one, particularly without any any
31:33
sweeteners. Um. Okay. So so that that's let's say two o'clock in
31:41
the afternoon. What have you done in the morning with your clients between the
31:47
time that they wake up and you wake up and start working at the body
31:51
the physical side, uh, in addition to the nutrition side. So what
31:56
if they what have you done so far with them in terms of their physical
31:59
activity human about me or about them? Well, I mean, I mean
32:04
you with your clients. I'm just I'm just projecting for our audience that they're
32:08
working with you, whether it's through a telephone consult or even if they're in
32:15
Athens and can physically be there with you. So either way, either way,
32:20
you're guiding them and teaching them. So so let's just say someone wants
32:24
to become your clients. So what are they going to do in that early
32:28
morning hours physically? Physically? I would say as soon as they wake up,
32:32
they have a task they first ask is to go either for an aerobic
32:37
exercise or a resistance exercise that will be defined on the goals of the individual
32:43
and how fast they want to reduce their adipose their adiposity. So the first
32:49
thing is, let's take a very solid basis, someone wants to lose fat.
32:52
Okay, we start with a morning walk because we won't avoid running.
32:57
We won't avoid things that they will. We will not be ideal for longevity
33:01
because running destroys the knees and we have seen from various studies. So I
33:06
would say brisk walking swimming for thirty twenty to thirty minutes as soon as as
33:13
soon as the arobic exercise is done, then we have the autophagic elixir of
33:17
the three supplements that I mentioned. And after that body is in the process
33:22
of the autophag and cleansing. This is where someone can start working. Someone
33:29
depends on the routine and work. This is where the individual takes place.
33:36
I decides his own rituals. For me, for example, is reading and
33:39
studying. Someone else can have ritualistic let's say routine and yeah, let's say
33:47
time goes by, we come close to the twenty hour fasting or eighteen hour
33:52
fasting, that we decide to break the fast. Before we break the fast,
33:57
and when I ensure two hours, we train. So before we break
34:00
the fast, we train in a specific amount of windows depending on the preference
34:05
of ease some of my clients, if someone wants to build more muscle,
34:07
we want to be closer to the eating window of the twenty hours. Let's
34:12
say, so we can spike the human growth hormone high. We want to
34:15
spike all that on abolic hormones that we suppress on the training that tough oft
34:21
we suppress on the training. We want to start to spike those on abolic
34:24
hormones. And as soon as we spike let's say the hormones with the resistance
34:28
training, after that we break the fast with the protein shake together. And
34:32
that's where the clients see a lot of potential in growth. The secret,
34:37
let's say, if you want is the closer you're to the eating window,
34:42
the closer your workouts should be if you want to maximize the potential of building
34:45
more muscle and counteract sucopenia in the future. So if people are going to
34:52
work though, this is you know, just being pragmatic. A lot of
34:55
people are, you know, I have to earn a living, so they
34:59
have a job and they can wake up and yeah, they can maybe do
35:02
an early morning walk if they get up an hour earlier, then they need
35:07
to get ready for work. So let's what happens to those people that are
35:12
actually in professional or you know, occupational situations where they can't just leave their
35:19
job and go out for a workout with you, we're talking about the morning
35:28
workout or yeah, you were talking about Yeah, I was just saying before
35:30
they break the fast. You were suggesting that they do a workout right before
35:36
they break the fast, And I'm saying, Okay, that's fine for those
35:38
who are retired or not working. But the people that are at their jobs
35:44
they have they would have a hard time getting into that regiment. So is
35:49
there a substitute that they can do later in the day after work instead of
35:52
at the hour of because they're going to break the fast before they leave work.
35:58
Probably fantastic. There are certain things that let's say hacks, if you
36:02
make that were hacked, you can utilize at the time. Some professionals can
36:07
have access to sauna usage before they break the fast. So I highly recommend
36:12
for the people that they cannot train to use sauna before they break the fast.
36:16
It's an ideal way to mimic the training activity and mimic the training benefits.
36:23
And at the same time it depends on the client. I can set
36:28
the resistance training on the morning instead of the walk that he has or he
36:32
has to undergo in the morning. So let's say he wakes up in the
36:36
morning and instead of the brisk walking or swimming, he undergoes a two protocol
36:42
of resistance training and he doesn't do at the end let's say of the fast,
36:47
he doesn't do the brisk walking. He doesn't have to compensate without that,
36:51
he can just go for a sauna or just leave solidly the training in
36:54
the morning. When you say a sauna, you're talking about a fire for
37:00
red sauna because they're much more detoxification and that protocol than in a regular Swedish
37:07
type sauna which is direct heat. But the car infrared sauna is obviously more
37:12
radiant heat. So is that what you're Is that what you're really saying when
37:15
you talk about a sauna? Yeah? Yeah, correct, correct? Correct?
37:19
Yeah. To avoid the intellectual access, yeah, I would say that
37:21
this is that anyone has to follow. Correct, Okay, Okay, So
37:25
now we're at the breakfast, so now we're going to do the drink.
37:29
Uh, we're getting ready to do a meal, right, the one meal
37:32
of the day that you're proposing that we're on. We're on an OMAD program.
37:37
One meal. Yeah, yeah, okay, so tell us about tell
37:40
us what should be in that one meal because that everybody's going to be looking
37:44
forward to that meal for sure. I know. Yeah, so what we
37:47
see the controversy? Yeah, ideally what would be included in that meal?
37:53
So ideally I would promote I always promote plant based nutrition and let's say tearing
38:00
nature Pythagorean, let's say nutrition. I always recommend. I can speak about
38:07
meat if you want. I can speak about the caveats of me the caveats
38:10
of an animal based nutrition, but I will give you specific directions. But
38:16
the way that they craft my meals, I precisely trive to my clients and
38:21
to myself. Nutrition that is problengevity. Nutrition which is plant based, that
38:27
is high carbs in high quality of cards, which is grains. It could
38:31
be lentils, it can be rise, it could be other forms of beans,
38:38
let's say white beans, kind of lining beans, red beans. The
38:44
more dominant bean and dish the better for longevity purposes. At the same time,
38:51
I am I am supporting a lot the idea of having high quality of
38:58
bread, specific grains of bread, which is an court spelled bread, the
39:02
ancient grains that their ancestors used to eat. Um. I support this a
39:07
lot. So it can be in a form of barley, the grain barley,
39:13
it could be, it could be anything in the legume category. Let's
39:17
say right, so that yes, that includes millet, that would be millet
39:24
to right and spelt. And but if someone has a wheat let's say Celiac
39:30
disease or gluten intolerance, how do you guide them for you know, actually
39:37
getting the bread, which, of course most people love the fact that you're
39:39
telling them they can eat bread, because that's one of the dons and most
39:44
of these protein ketotype diet So why don't you, you know, inflating to
39:50
us, how maybe in Greece you have amazing breads that people make right there,
39:55
right, And we in California are lucky enough to have that opportunity too,
40:00
with sour dough and a lot of the other grains that are you know,
40:06
very organic and very nutritious. But not everywhere in the world. You
40:10
know, most of the places in America even you go into the grocery store
40:15
and it's all you know, it's white bread and wheat bread, and it's
40:19
a lot of flour and not the grain. So uh, it's it's not
40:23
an easy task to for a lot of people. For you and me,
40:27
not so bad, but for others, I would say that would be a
40:30
challenge. So so what's your proposal about can you get those breads online?
40:35
Um, you know, are there bakeries that will ship directly to the consumer.
40:42
No, that's a good question because I had a few clients that they
40:44
eat had sea like disease. And this is where it gets very interesting.
40:49
With ancient grains like anchor, which is something that I dominantly support. Faces
40:54
no issue people that they have and we have that they have disease because the
41:01
gluten is very minimal and able the body to handle the small amounts of gluden
41:07
found in the ancorn grain. So I would say ancorn. If the client
41:10
cannot do ancorn, the ancient grain incorn, then I would avoid entirely the
41:15
selection of the grains, and to process that further, I would say dominantly
41:21
consume fruits, veggies, that's by far the best way in beans and paradised
41:27
beans because Celia my Cilia clients. They did very very well on beans from
41:31
my experience. And this is where we can talk about dairy because I'm not
41:37
a verse on dairy, because there is interesting leadercure behind the low fat dairy
41:43
and kiefere. We can speak about those two which are very important. People.
41:47
They can incorporate some some cheese that is a low fat variety and kiefer
41:52
that comes from a goat. They can incorporate those those two. Then we
41:58
want to make sure that fats are meant for the hormonal optimization, which is
42:04
pure organic extra virgin olive oil, nuts, dominantly nuts a lot. I'm
42:10
very supportive on nuts. Cash shows, brazil nuts and all of this can
42:15
be very easy online from Amazon, from an online supermarket or any place that
42:24
they sell organic foods and always support the organic variety. But if someone cannot
42:30
have the organic element, I would say, make sure that it is the
42:35
highest quality that you can have. And yeah, also honey is very important
42:42
in the diet because it provides with proper antioxidants and helps to lessen glycemia and
42:49
then extend also your lifespan by regulating the black blue post. So also honey
42:53
is added to the list of the foods that we consume, you know,
42:58
George, this is where it gets confusing to people. It seems like honey
43:02
would be a sugar, but yet honey, like lemons, should be acidic.
43:07
But yet when lemons hit your body, they become alkaline, and so
43:12
they help to alkalize your body, just like apple ciders or your alkalies is
43:15
your body. But yet a honey. I always use manuka honey because it's
43:21
the most medicinal of all honeys. But yet, you know, I think
43:24
people have to have to understand that honey is it is a sweetener. So
43:34
you know, if you're going to use it, don't use it in excess
43:37
because you are putting it's it's a it's a higher form of a sweetener than
43:43
pure white sugar, but it is still a sweetener, right. So,
43:46
but I am I am a big advocate of manuka honey because it it heals
43:52
so many things. I mean, it heals your gut, it can heal
43:55
skin lesions. I mean, there's just so many applications where most people don't
44:00
even know what Nuka honey is that you know, it is one of the
44:02
major exports from from New Zealand. Right, that's right, go ahead,
44:10
right, you know I was saying about the honey in general, like this
44:15
is where I want to stress about the quality of the honey is the most
44:17
important thing. Uh, And this is where we have to go and unravel
44:22
behind what's happening behind the honey is the honey, what is what the bees
44:29
have been fed, how they have been treated is very very important. Of
44:35
the way that the bees are treated is very medicinal, as you expressed,
44:38
and the breeze. I'm very lucky to have a very good source for procurement
44:45
of high quality of honey, especially um from vast majority like vast variety of
44:53
of um, of herbs or any kind of the bees that they to to
45:00
use UM. So I would say forest honey as far as my favorite and
45:06
very high quality. If someone cannot afford the Manuka honey, definitely go for
45:10
a forest honey that hasn't going through a process. So raw honey quit the
45:16
highest qualities you can find out honey right, raw, organic and unprocessed is
45:22
always the important those three words. And then okay, let's talk a little
45:27
bit about the nutrition from animal sources, because there are a lot of people
45:31
who want their protein from animal sources. They're not going to give it up.
45:36
And so let's address that, because there are ways to get around that.
45:39
Well, I mean certainly if we say fish and poultry and that category,
45:45
so we put lumped it all together. So first let's let's address the
45:50
beef. Okay, and I know you live in a country and I live
45:53
in an area of this country that we can get grass fed, organic,
46:00
grass fed, and grass finished. I think those are too important distinctions.
46:04
A lot of people will ask when they go to the butcher for a grass
46:07
fed, but um, you need to ask for grass fed and grass finished.
46:12
And and that means that that cow has not been slaughtered and um,
46:17
and you know, just filled with hormones and any fed corn and drinking water
46:25
that is from with with pharmaceutical drugs from people in the in the in the
46:32
groundwater. So these are the kinds of things that we have to you know,
46:36
it's it's it's like a full time job to really understand what you need
46:40
to put in your body. But what you put in your body is going
46:43
to be what you are. So your food is your medicine. So okay,
46:47
so long, long winded way of saying, what what's your what's your
46:52
advice on eating animal protein? I'm a verse entirely in the animal based protein
47:00
for ethical reasons one part, but also for longevity reasons. And the reason
47:05
that is animals and very high in ages advance location products which the increased by
47:12
the cooking process will If you cook festible, for example, you might some
47:19
degree of ages, but not in comparison with meat. If you cook think
47:22
you get let's say thousand ages, and if you cook of age, you
47:24
will get five. The difference is huge if we talk about longevity. Now,
47:30
if we don't talk about longevity and we talk about ethical part, I'm
47:32
all of course averse to that. Let's say we live in a magical word
47:37
that animals love to be slaughter and all of that, I would still not
47:40
eat meat because I don't support it entirely. So I taken that is for
47:49
the ages content when it comes to longevity, and for ethical purposes, I
47:53
don't condone to the to the meat based nutrition. Now, what animal products
48:00
I am not averse to that? I would say honey is one and low
48:05
fat dairy. As I mentioned before, would be the second part. There
48:08
is an interesting let's say, saying from my mentor of philosophy. He was
48:15
asking me a question about do you know why a s clip use let's say
48:20
the person of medicine that we have now, let's say the god of the
48:24
medicine, and the person who invented the medicine said, what was his secret
48:29
behind it? He was treating his patience with kiffir. Let's say, I'm
48:32
saying this is very simplified. He was using goats kiffir. He was using
48:37
that was low in fat. And that brought me to the realization that,
48:42
hey, I want to research more about the lo fat dairy. And there
48:45
is an interesting literature behind the lo fat dairy and the reduction of cancer.
48:52
So we lowered the risk of cancer if we include in our dads very small
48:57
amounts of low fat dairy fear like goat's milk, but low and fat.
49:02
This is very beneficial for the body, as we have seen, and that
49:07
promotes longevity. I don't say like to get crazy amounts of goat's milk and
49:14
cheese, but some some small parts they're beneficial. Well, I mean you
49:20
and in Greece you have Greek yogurt and Greek and feta cheese. Those are
49:23
two, you know, very very good sources of protein from from the dairy
49:29
part of and I'm sure you're getting some of the best quality because they come
49:35
directly from the farm to you rather than through a grocery store like we get
49:39
here. So do you advocate feta cheese and Greek yogurt for people? For
49:49
people? I do recommend low fat fetta cheese, which does exist, and
49:53
I do recommend them, but very small amounts, like not amounts like most
49:58
people we consume. We do have gree is very high quality of dairy,
50:01
but at the same time we need to consider the ethical part of how the
50:07
dairy is is extracted from the cow or the goat or whatever. But I
50:13
do like them, you know, decide because I cannot tell them, be
50:15
Vegan, I don't want to be that person that will tell you the direction.
50:20
But I will not, of course provide a direction on the animal based
50:23
foods because it doesn't promote longevity. Because I want to provide an objective,
50:29
an objective experience from myself and an experience from experience experienced researchers and the literature
50:37
that we have. I want to provide some truth to that the people,
50:40
not just to tell you a fact that cheese is good, okay, whereas
50:43
the research behind it, okay, low fat cheese is good, not just
50:46
a generalized pet of cheese. So yes, I do consider dairy as a
50:52
part of my client's protocol, but very small parts and low in fat.
51:00
And I say this many times because a lot of people think they can consume
51:01
dairy and go crazy over amounts, but they don't acknowledge the fact that is
51:07
this blowing fat or is it is high and fat like parmesan cheese fat,
51:12
This is not legemity taste, that's um, say, I would say,
51:20
the safe way to um this safe approach, or you're gonna eat gary is
51:24
to eat goat cheese or sheep's milk cheese like munchigo goat cheese, which is
51:30
um. You know obviously you want it from goats that have been out in
51:37
the field. Tell us a little bit about fishing and poultry. Then are
51:39
you against those as well, or do you advocate anyone that wants to be
51:45
in your program to be able to have some animal protein or fish protein.
51:51
I'm entirely a verse on both, but for starting points, for some individuals.
51:58
Let's say most of my clients, they can like start just directed going
52:00
plant based. I tell them, okay, start with fish. Start with
52:05
some part of the fish. But I still am versed to consuming fish.
52:08
But if that helps you to take a step further, start with that.
52:12
No poultry, no meat, no beef, nothing, Start with fish.
52:16
Progress to see how much you can tolerate, and then start to slowly reduce
52:21
the amount of this protein. That's my recommendation. Look, I always start
52:25
them. If they're heavy animal based advocates and they consume very heavy animal based
52:32
foods, I always start them with a piscatarian nutrition and then move to a
52:37
vegetarian origin nutrition. Okay, okay, Well, before we run out of
52:43
time, I just want to say one thing about fish. If anyone's going
52:45
to use the Prescaderian approach, make sure that your fish is wild caught,
52:51
not farmed, because farm fish is fed things that you don't even want to
52:54
know about. And also, don't eat the bigger fish, like the pelagics
53:00
that are feeding on mercury. Get you know, have more mercury, so
53:06
the smaller fish are always better. Wild salmon is probably your best right for
53:10
if you're going to eat fish, wild salmon, and well, of course,
53:14
anyone that can take sardines and mackerel and the smaller good good luck to
53:20
you, because that's something I just for me. I just can't do it.
53:22
I go through the store and I say, I know I should get
53:25
these sardines and other but I just can't. So you know, it's up
53:30
to you. We all have to listen to our own bodies. So well,
53:32
George, it's been lovely to have you here. And when we do
53:37
the full tape of our podcast, we're going to showcase you doing some of
53:42
your workouts and letting people see what the results are of a you know,
53:47
basically about a fifteen year journey of reformation for a person who started out feeling
53:54
like he was pretty chubby, as you told me, and had a an
54:00
epiphany. And thanks to your mother. You don't want her to be sick,
54:04
but she certainly got you onto a path. So I congratulate you for
54:08
being so diligent and disciplined and dedicated. The three d's diligent, discipline,
54:15
and dedicated. So thank you again for joining us, and I hope you
54:19
sleep well. It's time for you to go to bed. So right,
54:22
yeah, and just before we go, is one thing that you would like
54:27
to say in just imparting to our viewers, any one one final comment before
54:34
we sign off. Find a mentor to anything that you want to pursue it.
54:39
That's my best line I can say. And I contribute a lot of
54:43
my success to finding mentors on every pillar where I want to go. Mentorship
54:49
is the most important thing. So tell us how to find you. They
54:52
can find me through Instagram page, George king V. Direct me a misstance
54:58
there and I'll respond. This is the best and the fastest way that they
55:01
can find me, and I will happily respond any questions they have. I'm
55:07
open to anything, and I know you offered an incentive. I won't go
55:13
get into that now, but if people call you that they say they've found
55:15
you on ageless, I know you're going to give them a nice little offer
55:21
for the consultation and the training. So we'll let you handle that one that
55:27
happens the podcast. Okay, well, thank you again, George. You
55:30
are full evening. Thank you myself for the best, for the opportunity.
55:36
Thank you. Okay, take care, bye bye.