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Marshall McCart of The Piedmont Chronicles: Politics, Privacy, and Local Music — Episode 97 · The Town Square Podcast

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  [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Town Square podcast where local advocates for a better community bring their different perspectives to the messy middle.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: To have a conversation where our aim is unity, not uniformity.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And today,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And we got a we got a unity guy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think we got a unity guy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, we've probably had some disagreements over the past about is unity really good.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, let's not pontificate there yet.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I could show Marshall McCarty.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you sir.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It is a pleasure to be with you again.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Um,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Almost a year since I was last year.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we didn't have video yet.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think I might have been either the last or next to last one you'll did before you switched to video.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that was intentional.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe so.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe so.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now let me ask this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking about this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm certainly I'm not your first repeat guest.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have other folks who've been on?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just a few.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But just a handful.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're in an elite climbing good company.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's why you got the Led Zeppel.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We gave you the Led Zeppel and shirt for the prize.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, all right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm a member of the club.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel special.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You should feel special.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sir.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, in the audio version, which is still popular.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Podcast format.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: In the audio version, I mean, you had really good numbers.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's put it that way.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like when it comes to like the numbers of the episodes or the
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you were up there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was up there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I had quite a few folks tell me that they heard it and they enjoyed and they thought it was great.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, then welcome back.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I have to ask you right off the bat because last time I believe you were going by the moniker of the semi-prote ant hill kicker.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: semi-professional ant hill kicker.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Have you taken off the boots?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Or well, you know, and that's something that, you know, we
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  [SPEAKER_01]: we talked about and I've had some folks inquire here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I have to a certain extent of kind of maybe unplugged a little bit with the, you know, have even, you want to phrase it, the, you know,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, yeah, it's just one of those things where, well, you know, I don't want to get, you know, like pessimistic or anything.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a start to the show, come on.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, do you know, and some of, you know, of your listeners and and viewers now, that I've been kind of plugged in for really quite some time.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, really going back 25 years in terms of political advocacy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: you know with the various projects of libertarian party, GOP independent, just grassroots groups, like a new conservative liberty alliance back in the day, and then of course doing my stuff with the Piedmont Chronicles, cis and journalism, but I don't know, man, I've kind of, you know, I wouldn't say like, yeah, I'm
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  [SPEAKER_01]: crisis of confidence or anything to the quote Jimmy Carter in 1979.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know, man.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of just looking back and thinking, you know, all of this stuff that I've done and many others have done, you know, kind of the...
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  [SPEAKER_01]: banging your head against the proverbial brick wall, and really is there that much to show for it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And also, and again, not want to get too, too down, but, you know, I think especially at the federal level and really at this point, I'm thinking at state level.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't know, I'm, yeah, I just.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, so was there a proverbial straw that broke the camel's back?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I remember you.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, see, I'm going to pinpoint it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: See if you can tell me the same.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, was it the Thomas Massey, was that kind of role that played a role, because when he got ran over by the maga train, which is what happened right away to phrase, um, absolutely.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I was certainly disheartened.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man, because I felt like he was one of the last.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: congressman who were go who would just ask questions.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and and maybe made.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I would say plain sense.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, a very good sense of things.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So was that kind of like.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I just feels like.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, that that that that that was a definitely a major factor.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Not just that by itself, but yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, then I won't go too much further down that path since it doesn't seem like it's, uh, really light and you're fine right now.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, it really isn't.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, my apologies, you know, TPC, a chronicles that's gone a little quiet here lately, um, I've just been kind of shifting my focus energies to other things and, um,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I'm still out there and you know, definitely the local stuff, you know, I'm still keeping out that just that really been plugged in to keep up with stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we got some, some things going on, you know, that federal trial with Marcelo and Lindsay is ongoing, so he should hear something about that and he's making news, actually.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, breaking news.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Breaking news, this whatever this comes out is being not making news, but that's right for you
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I know for both, that's a mistrial, which is a little draw.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Was it so much to still to see an impact there?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, but yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, that has been the back of my mind, you know, after all this, and you figure, especially reading the indictment and everything that the feds had them dead rights and usually when the feds got somebody, they got them.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But what if, you know, it was not guilty and the fallout and the dynamics with that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, if a mistrial is it, I mean, the state, the government could still bring
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  [SPEAKER_01]: charges again.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the end of my knowledge.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I logged in.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I took me a minute to log in to my rocket citizen account even if that much information.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's an ongoing issue, ongoing story.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully by the time this airs people will have a lot more clarity of the full story.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but certainly some political fallout if those two individuals retake their seats, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They're one in the election.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's totally elected by about this and right here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I mean, that out.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Who knows, so maybe they'll be more to talk about, maybe so, maybe so.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, tell me what you've been up to then, since you said you're not on the political train.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what do you do?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, just, you know, course working, you know, my super exciting.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... checking a real estate files and uh... you know teaching uh... real estate and all that good stuff and then just uh... you know living life uh... you know we went to the beach couple weeks ago uh... down the mexico beach florida where we go every year and uh...
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  [SPEAKER_01]: enjoyed the World Cup, the football, the soccer, and that was probably the most plugged in to the World Cup.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I've been probably since go figure 1994.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Erica hosting both times, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: technically it was us Mexico and Canada hosting but uh uh yeah uh really enjoyed that uh was your algorithm the same as mine?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know you're not supposed to meet it whole lot but yeah um like did you see the Europeans who came over who were just like fascinated by America?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They thought it is so much better than what the the garbage they read.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I really enjoyed several of those yeah yeah and then the one guy I guess you know hit big
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, first was the fella from Germany who, you know, took that picture at Waffle House.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the corner of the picture, they showed someone cutting into a sandwich with a fork.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And like everybody was like, oh, man, no, don't do that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's not what I was.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait a minute.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that was really cool.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I saw several the others as well.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And since we've last talked, we've celebrated our 250th birthday of this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that's right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Two five zero, the cent.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Happy birthday.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Happy birthday.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Happy birthday.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Happy to your first 50th
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What do you call the all the ships the parade of ships they they had in New York okay Hudson River right and Yeah, so that was pretty name in 250.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean you're a stand-up history.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know that doesn't happen too often I mean yeah, there's been some civilizations civilizations that made it way longer, but Or as like an active government.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, usually yeah, I once you get to about 200
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty high, so 250.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We've done something.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You was.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Will it keep going?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we see $17,000,000.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see 50,000.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: 40,000.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Will we be speaking Chinese?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We have a lot of money to some people.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're Chinese or Russian, you know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So go to the beach.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And now you've got a, you've raised a little, raising your daughter.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Gosh, she's got to be about.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: 16.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We found her's all running driving driving a car.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's and coming to yes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how's it?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: How you like that?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That was a big one.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hang on.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Did you teach your head a driver?
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Damn.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we both worked with her and then she did driving school.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, because
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  [SPEAKER_00]: New London or whatever.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The one based out of I think they're based out of Logan Bill.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she did the full thing and uh, um, they did pretty big difference with the insurance for getting your right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, especially young girls.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it should be equality for male and female.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When it comes to Astralis, why are female is more expensive?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Can you get that right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Can sense when you get that right out there?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So that, yeah, that was a big one.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, when your child for the first time takes that first drop by herself.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That was a big one.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now look, I know you're not a big establishment guy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I know big brother.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want you down to fall cameras or anything.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But I do want to think of my head on that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I do want to know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you do the life 360?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, to this point, I have not.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: OK. Anne and Lenie are both on it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: OK. And my presence has been requested.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You haven't accepted it yet.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Not accepted it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll just go ahead and make that segue.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the flock cameras I am not in support of.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: In any way, shape, manner, or form.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I know the local, your various police entities, and back to CPD, just join the club today, seems like they all got a memo from flock about putting out.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: social media posts of kept a police department did there's today and you know all the all the things you know tooled to fight crime and we saw this and we wasn't with that and that's all well and good but i think there's a quote that you're familiar with from Benjamin Franklin talking about the liberty and the security that i think hits that uh
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, squarely on that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and another thing that Thomas Massey was not a big fan of either, and still not, so he's still in the seat.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's not, so he's still making a lot of noise about it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's funny because when the school systems had him for a while, I would say at least a year, and I remember when they brought it before the board.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, guys, I am not a big fan of this.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So sure about this.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And when that, you know, we asked a ton of questions.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was, you know, we got at least, again, you get sold a bill of goods who knows how it all turns out.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But the bill of goods we were sold were, it's, it's for security for our schools, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's kids, it's that kind of thing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's for the children.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's for the children.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's for the children.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's for the children.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's for the children.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think, gosh.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like the investment.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like the philosophy of it overall.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But all right, if it's keeping
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  [SPEAKER_00]: the you know the dad who doesn't have custody who's trying to get this kid and whatever down all right we need to know when they show up you know or if or if someone is wanted we don't need them coming on to the campus we just get a little bit of a little bit longer runway to do something about it before something you know potentially right negative could happen
• 13:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: But still, you know, it's still like, yeah, yeah, there's some a fourth amendment rights potentially being tread on in the news.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So that is correct.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I get I know it is no easy answers here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a balancing act.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I read one article a couple weeks ago about the, um,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: huge of uh... that they're searching for in Georgia committed uh... just a heinous crime uh... and through flop cameras they were tracking him like through the southeast taxes apparently making a run per mexico is where he was from and they were able to get them uh... right before they got to the mexico border and you know that that the various law enforcement agencies you know said you know this was because that we did have this tool in place and
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  [SPEAKER_01]: get that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate that, but again, it's this non-negotiable thing with privacy rights, fourth Amendment.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, you know, it can be a tool for solving crimes, but what about the
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The majority of us just got, you know, good, hardworking people who haven't known Commitment of Crimes and the invasion of our prophecy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, you know, I recently read 1984 again.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And, man, you, well, I listened to it on audiobook and I thought, boy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's why we're like beyond that, almost, you know, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a whole.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a whole new thing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Really a couple of books there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: A couple of them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Creepy now when you go back and read them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, and I'm not a certainly not a fan of surveillance state and I mean, what did China do?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Did they like to, hey, this is for the kids, it's for the kids.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden now you're getting points on your own.
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: you know your morality points were you good today were you bad at school or that it turned to blinker on you when it grows yeah that that that is the concern that may have us out because they're like oh well that can never happen in America
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And we go to a whole other thing about like the year 2020.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, we had the hearing today in DC.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The American government would never get carried away with trampling our freedoms that would never happen.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's never happened to them.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We have seen it firsthand.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's the concern.
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, yeah.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you stop them now.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I think that's the problem.
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, you go with their hair.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like on a state highway in the middle of note.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to Athens this week.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, what does this thing do in way out here?
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: No city limits just out in the middle of the, what are they looking for?
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean to that point, and you know, talking about going down to the beach a few weeks ago, I started handing them and leaving out from Pavan to Nina because they were everywhere.
• 16:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: as we're going down, you know, Georgia and I pretty much quit counting after about 80.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then like when we got in, you know, southwest Georgia south, you know, and then crossing into, you know, that portion of Florida, which is very rural and hardly any people they were everywhere.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it makes sense.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, there is way to defy back and multiple,
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: local subdivisions have where they they have a cancel to contract they had or they made a boat to not renew it when you know the expires the current term their own expires so cities, towns and counties all over America have been doing that.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I've seen, I mean, you probably noticed it too.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're like police agencies are firing people for misusing that.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 17:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Which is, again, they wouldn't have the data.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Which comes first.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: taken to the edge of the awfully and that you know I would say to folks uh... may be somebody that's out there that's array to carry the torch uh... maybe uh... on behalf of freedom lovers like us uh... you know build that coalition build that consensus uh... go to your county b-o-c go to your city councilor town council
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: and then press on them that you, you want these, these cameras, these flock cameras going.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: But don't, don't cut them down.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't cut them down.
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: OK, all right, yeah, don't, no, no, that's destruction of property.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: OK, yeah, no, I mean, really, if you adhere to the principles of, you know,
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: freedom and liberty, uh, you know, uh, yeah, me and the shark's on property.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Never answer no.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good for you.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a line.
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's the line.
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: There is certainly a line.
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, well, I heard you're raising some some some some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, some uh, uh, uh, some uh, uh, some uh, uh, some uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
• 18:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because that's been like a pet project a month for for 15 years.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I was in the world and I was shouting about it 15 years ago when it really wasn't on anyone's radar.
• 18:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've written multiple senators over the years in my Congress.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: representative and yes, so yeah, it's I'm pretty it's pretty big deal for me.
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So what are you like this permanent daylight savings time?
• 19:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, okay, I didn't think you'd do that.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you're not.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you were saying, so what's the major beef with a permanent daylight savings time?
• 19:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the number one is we tried 1974 and it failed Mr. What did it like last six months or something?
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, I mean, within six months, they changed the law.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so then they went back to having the time change.
• 19:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right?
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, if that's all we can get, I'll just, I'll be okay with the time change, right?
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I hate it, especially the one in the spring, there is data in
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: you see a spike in heart attacks, car accidents, when we spring forward, when folks lose that hour sleep.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: But now my wish would be permanent standard time, natural time.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And there is same thing, much empirical data saying that's better for us, more healthier.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, if I understand the institution of daylight savings time to begin with, there's a couple of different arguments, ones from like we used to be in agricultural society and maybe that's true, maybe not school, like we could go to school during the daytime, it's like all these things are
• 20:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Really non non issues anymore with electricity and all the other stuff.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't know, but it just I hate Titan changing the time.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it comes around.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'd say a big thing that thing is if we went permanent daylight and this is why they had to scrap it back in the 70s.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like in, especially like Western Georgia, right at the end.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... the western end of our particular time zone uh... in December early January the sun will not come up until like nine thirty in the morning who even for us in our area and land uh... i think uh... the there are few days where sunrise when i had until the after nine a.m. and then there are a few pockets particularly in the uh... south north west corner of the mountain uh... range uh... time range
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: if you're on permanent day like during the winter.
• 21:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it can't work.
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's never worked.
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: We tried it.
• 21:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: We failed.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't see why we're even doing this, why the house.
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: But fortunately, smarter heads prevailed in the U.S. Senate.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And from what I've read, it's never going to come to a boat for permanent day like time.
• 21:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 21:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now we're going to have to go back to the drawing table.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Are we just going to
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: stick with having the time change, everybody hates.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or do we want to take a plunge leap of faith and say, you know what?
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go back to God's time.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go back to natural time.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: The way we did for millennia.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And let's see how that works.
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the argument that folks have is like, oh, well, I like sunlight.
• 21:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's great.
• 21:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, there's this whole thing, something going on for billions of years where, you know, there are earth orbits of the sun as a tilt.
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not, you know, standard time, you don't like, it's winter that you don't like.
• 22:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: You just don't like how, you know, the reality of the situation that, you know, we have less daylight during the winter.
• 22:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the big thing is, and I think this is the biggest thing that gets folks who say they're against permanent standard is when that day comes in early November and we fall back, that is tough.
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: It stinks because you know, you're used to having light until certain time then you lose an hour.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if we weren't doing the change, we wouldn't have to experience that anymore.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, let's give it a shot and I think everybody would be surprised that, you know, it worked pretty good.
• 22:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: The science.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: The science is clear.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's my, that's my two cents.
• 23:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, that's my 20 mills on that one.
• 23:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 23:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I like it.
• 23:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to hear about it because I wanted to hear more about what you're thinking.
• 23:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate that because I am.
• 23:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty passionate about the whole time.
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: You only just jump into the greatest band in the whole, in the world.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or the artists talk about music in general.
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, when you do this, wherever you're comfortable, we can do it either.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he obviously came ripping.
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I did, I came representing him to me the greatest band of all time.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Led Zeppelin.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were my basically my first love still my all-time favorite.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now favorite Apple.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Physical graffiti.
• 23:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 23:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: What about who say I want to go favorite song with that's probably you probably deeper cut gonna get probably a little bit.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I could give you kind of like a top five basically the rover.
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: trampled under foot, okay.
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Killies last stand, song remains the same, okay.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, I don't know, except it's hard to really write that.
• 24:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you got, you were like, name in your favorite kids.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like I can do this.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, no, no.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of tough, but yeah, they are my fan.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, for me,
• 24:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Malta, I'm favorite guitar player, Jimmy Pei.
• 24:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Malta, I'm favorite lead vocal rock and roll lead vocalists for Robert Plant.
• 24:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's a good one.
• 24:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Trevor Bonser.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: You ever listen to a son?
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bonser?
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Jason.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's with who's he playing with right now?
• 24:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or is he doing his or her maybe and then he's played with four nerds also played with a couple other well name bands course he had his band back in the later 80s early 90s that was called bottom right they they had kind of a sort of a hit like right around 1990
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... of course he played uh... with uh... him page plan job all janins uh... in uh... the reunion the other reunion show are the drum still though as big as his dad's i mean uh... i mean like not physically but like yeah and nobody can they can can do you know what bonds they're doing i know you had some slightly bigger kick drum that kind of stuff but did he had a really big uh... kick drum uh... but you listen to some of this stuff in your
• 25:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's got to be either two bass drums or at least two pedals.
• 25:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because he's moving.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was just a single pedal like apparently they're in their YouTube videos.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can check out.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: That'll be like kind of the science behind how John Bonham was able to do what he did.
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 25:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just think it's almost, you know, um, not real.
• 25:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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• 26:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and I want to give the, I don't know do anything, but I think the producer deserves some credit to be able to capture that sound.
• 26:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, absolutely.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't remember who is it?
• 26:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't, it wasn't.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ah, really, truly Jimmy Page.
• 26:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was there produced.
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's the one tinkering around with the mics.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I remember they did a lot of it in big old empty house or something.
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they did.
• 27:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Recording, like those tricks are fascinating.
• 27:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they really are, they really are.
• 27:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Did you ever do studio time?
• 27:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Did you just say so?
• 27:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
• 27:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've never played a lot.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah, one of the, one of the tricks, uh, and this was like amplifier, but this is one of these weird kind of tricks, then engineers and producers know how to do, I didn't know a thing about it.
• 27:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 27:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I barely can know how to turn the thing on.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just play.
• 27:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm making music.
• 27:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 27:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And trying to my best to be artistic and these guys.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: were, they, they were created.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they knew what they were doing.
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this guy, this one guy, I mean, if you were to ever watch somebody do, uh, studio drum kit that really knows what they're doing, that drum, sit drum kit does not look like what it looks like on the stage, right?
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like it is.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: heads are taken off.
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's pillows.
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a tape.
• 27:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's, you know, a phone board and like the mic place and slow.
• 28:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, how they're like zero scope precision, you know, right?
• 28:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, not there, but I mean, no, it's got captured in this angle.
• 28:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 28:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: But there was this one time I was and I had a big Marshall 412.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the past sac.
• 28:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it was like JC and 800.
• 28:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you're talking about old school analysis of a rocket boy, a session for it.
• 28:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: We were in studio and we're going to talk more about that.
• 28:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, well, he didn't like the the tone he was getting from the amp.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: My amp guitar combo.
• 28:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever I was doing.
• 28:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he didn't love it.
• 28:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so he took a he wanted a little brighter little brighter.
• 28:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 28:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
• 28:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: So for people who were listening is like the high end of stuff, the higher pitches.
• 28:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 28:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't quite capture in that stuff.
• 28:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was a lot of chunk just just just just just just kind of that more noise.
• 28:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: He took a symbol.
• 28:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: A big ride symbol.
• 28:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: So the bigger of the symbols.
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 28:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 28:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: And turn it upside down.
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: tilted it up against my amplifier.
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: So here's my ampspeaker.
• 28:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the, here's the, and he turns the microphone towards that symbol towards the open part of the symbol.
• 29:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's kind of concave like this.
• 29:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: It sounds coming out of the amp hidden in the symbol in the microphone's picking it up this way.
• 29:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: To get this brighter crisp and look and it worked.
• 29:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, it sounded good to me.
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: How about that?
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's what.
• 29:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: But those are the tricks that those guys who do hate micro trays, yeah, and they're going to a coffee can down the whole way to get a certain sound.
• 29:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just crazy enough.
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I've seen some stuff about Zeppelin's, you know, get some of that stuff in a house.
• 29:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Paige was just really into all that.
• 29:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And of course,
• 29:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was all silly Dan records that to me, those are some of the best produced albums of all time.
• 29:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 29:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, silly Dan, that's pretty much all my Mount Rushmore along with Zeppelin.
• 29:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, now I need to know the other two or three who they evolved, they kind of move around.
• 29:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 29:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 29:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll just give you a go at those two now, but you know, I know previously when we talked about doing this show that we were talking about maybe doing a little reminiscing.
• 30:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it with local music.
• 30:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if I could.
• 30:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Please.
• 30:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so spring of 1996, okay, a few months before the Olympics we had in Atlanta, there was this big, big, get together, blowout,
• 30:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Wally Farm, North Oxford, Dowtown, and I tell you that one pasture that the Wally's had, it was a natural amphitheater that General Gray, that came down, and that bottomed out
• 30:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And and Ben and and Dustin dial in the rest of the there's guys and some of the adults helped them built a massive stage.
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
• 30:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a Saturday.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to say in early May and that was a double bill.
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 30:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: The headliner was southern parade.
• 31:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: that of which your shooly was a member on the the guitarist and technically even though you guys were like a regional kind of man playing you know around the southeast eastern seaboard and and you've cut some albums rocket boy who was the opener okay do you remember that soon well
• 31:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel you are a vaguely remember H.C. Yeah, I feel like maybe our base player might have been wearing a dress or something.
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: The base player and I guess should I say his name or should I not?
• 31:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: The bass player?
• 31:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sleg Kurt.
• 31:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Slate.
• 31:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 31:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was a different time.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he was.
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was a different time.
• 31:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 31:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody loved it.
• 31:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we don't came out and Slate was wearing that dress.
• 31:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, everybody flipped out.
• 31:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and you guys, I tell you what, you guys killed it.
• 31:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my gosh.
• 31:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think y'all pretty much did all original.
• 32:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 32:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mostly a cover.
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: We had a cover too, but mostly mainly original.
• 32:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 32:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I remember it being definitely alternative, but almost
• 32:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, with an edge, you know, like almost a, you know, maybe what would become kind of alternate like, how are pop?
• 32:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's some of that.
• 32:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're good.
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we were, we were in a scene, certainly, and I think that's right.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's all right.
• 32:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mary at Atlanta area was kind of having a, having to have a revival of kind of that post punk alternative.
• 32:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 32:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 32:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's how I was like enough.
• 32:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 32:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: We like to throw the term redneck on there.
• 32:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'd call it redneck punk rock.
• 32:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Redneck play on, you know, like you said across.
• 32:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we played all over America and all these gigs, we'd be playing with people who were, you know, from Boston or from Nashville or wherever.
• 32:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they heard us and they heard our twang and they were like, we don't know what to do with it.
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what to make of it.
• 32:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: We know it's, we know there's some angst there.
• 33:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: We get the 90s angst that you're producing, but that twang.
• 33:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what does that come from?
• 33:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, really.
• 33:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, when you grow up on,
• 33:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Whalen Jennings and you know, Merrill Haggard and like those just influence you, you know, when my dad would pop in a atrack, I'm listening.
• 33:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, turn that off.
• 33:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was going, this is interesting, you know, yeah, man.
• 33:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you mix all that together with the, all that was happening in the 90s and you had, you get a pretty interesting mix.
• 33:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, rock a boy, you know, you're a rock a boy, yeah.
• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, that was, uh, that was a memorable night.
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think there was a least.
• 33:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: at least like 300 people there.
• 33:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think probably more.
• 33:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still can't believe that the cops didn't shut that down.
• 33:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe like, you know, the wally is where I might have had some inside connections, but they didn't see us so.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like, hey, you know, we're keeping the limitations passed.
• 33:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we're good.
• 33:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 33:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think they probably had some, like, hey, yes, I'll be fine.
• 33:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be fine.
• 34:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're right.
• 34:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're overseeing this thing, right?
• 34:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're definitely not, not, not, not, but yes, and I do just have to give a shout out that that group I was with at the time for that show and we did a few others a southern for a southern freight and we were kind of the opposite y'all.
• 34:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: We had two originals in the rest were covers mainly just all and brothers in Lawrence again, of course.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... but yeah well bobby d uh... bobby desk and now bobby d steven that's right lead to a friend of the show he's a friend of the show and that's very good advertisement as a batch in uh... the app lecturing group yes uh... insurance firm yeah uh... said bobby born to be a frontman uh... he was just a natural
• 34:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the other guitar player, Jamie Cheryl, you know, you know, that course my music can pay tripped for many, many years on drums, Scottie B. Scott Bowen, the one and only Scottie B.
• 34:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then around it out, on base, Fender Jazz Bass, the one and only William Greg Peters, AKA Peter Cheese.
• 35:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have you remember Greg.
• 35:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, good.
• 35:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 35:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I could go a whole life and never hear that.
• 35:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 35:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Crazy game.
• 35:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was this thing.
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Scotty.
• 35:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my goodness.
• 35:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 35:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: The most laidback person on the planet, possibly.
• 35:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Most of the time.
• 35:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes.
• 35:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 35:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 35:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I listen to the drive by truckers.
• 35:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you've seen it with truckers.
• 35:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Athens band or with some malcomation of gas.
• 35:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why would have been Athens?
• 35:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: unbelievable record of they've been around 30 years to great that's great music yeah um good southern storytelling involved in there with the drummers called EZB that's what they're called EZB and I cannot see him and not think it's got the yeah not think it's got to be because he's just he's just like laid back keeping it down
• 35:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Big with it needs to be big, just laid back and it's like man.
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, old Scotty beat.
• 36:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I tell you.
• 36:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm then all Scotty for a gosh, I guess now pushing them.
• 36:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess about 36, 37 years.
• 36:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of course, I'm about known as sisters since kindergarten.
• 36:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they like, yeah, look at me name dropping out of here.
• 36:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to call me Darrell Huckabee, man.
• 36:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just keep name dropping.
• 36:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
• 36:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
• 36:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, Darrell Huckabee, yes, to pictures of my wedding.
• 36:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Did he?
• 36:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was our wedding photographer.
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I had no idea he was Darrell Huckabee.
• 36:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: at the time.
• 36:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know probably the peak of his like book writing and article writing and well, you know, I tell you he's a man of many talents and many things, you know, obviously a good writer of photographer, you know, does those tours, you know, a self-confessed lit head.
• 36:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's right, proud of his board.
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
• 36:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you played in Southern Freight, but you've played in a dozen bands.
• 37:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Probably more like a push and two dozen for the years.
• 37:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some that were just around for a short while, some that were around for pretty good while.
• 37:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, a group that even though we haven't really played that much last few years, sweet harmony with Anne, my wife Anne.
• 37:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: and we've had different members over the years and Rebecca Cooper also part of that group and most recently groovy John Pantesca on a do you know groovy I have another name John Pantesca he moved here from Florida a few years ago amazing musician guitarist he's actually been playing bass with us
• 37:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: But we need to go our act together and get some shows going.
• 37:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: But him and Rebecca, they have their own project.
• 37:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're really good.
• 37:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give them a shout out.
• 37:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Box Hill Road.
• 37:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Box Hill Road.
• 37:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Box Hill Road and a Christian from Christian on Scott.
• 38:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they're drummer.
• 38:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 38:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then Johnny Hamby.
• 38:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: formerly of the pill dunions and used to play bass or sweet harmony he's their bass player okay and then they have this amazing keyboard player uh... but they're playing uh... in august at uh... the upstairs at social good okay so just want to give them a ploxial road boxy or and what's there's what how would you categorize their sound i would say
• 38:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know you hate doing this, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 38:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: really good stuff.
• 38:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 38:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: So not the pop-in of like no a con in that downer, but more.
• 38:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 38:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: More.
• 38:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it gives vibes of like, I don't know, like, like, like, definitely like some some classic rock elements.
• 38:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 38:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: But then also kind of with that that Americana, and it's just, it's really good.
• 39:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: So are you listening to a lot of that these days?
• 39:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, I'm glad you mentioned that.
• 39:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, really, I haven't been listening to that much new music.
• 39:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And music that I was listening to was more in that realm of Americana.
• 39:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I have found, right?
• 39:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: That rock and roll is not dead.
• 39:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, come on.
• 39:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
• 39:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I found two great and I'm sure some of the folks listening or watching this are gonna be like, oh, yeah, I've known about them for like 10 years, but King gizzard and the wizard lizard have you heard of them?
• 39:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to say that they found the wizard lizard.
• 39:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is it King Gisord and the wizard lizard?
• 39:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, it's like equal parts, prog rock, jazz fusion, psychedelic and hard rock.
• 39:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 39:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 40:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we're all thought you were headed now.
• 40:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then another one is black Pummas black Pummas black Pummas.
• 40:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 40:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 40:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 40:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like a rock band.
• 40:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 40:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're kind of like rock soul.
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but definitely rock black Pummas.
• 40:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 40:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to shoot that if you've heard this one.
• 40:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 40:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because this is a brand new one to me.
• 40:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I have fallen in love.
• 40:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I actually texted.
• 40:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: late Curtis and the first drummer we had was Rob Jones and I played a few shows throughout but yeah okay so Rob I texted those two guests and I said if we could have made it a few more years with that line of original line I think we was sounded like these guests they're called cigarettes at sunset I've heard the name I don't think I've heard any of these stuff
• 40:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's definitely southern in the other.
• 40:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: There are Appalachian guys from North Carolina.
• 40:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: So they sing about that, but it's rock.
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it is like maybe the 90's side of rock.
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I was so surprised.
• 40:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they've got a fiddle in the band.
• 41:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's so full band rock style with fiddle.
• 41:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 41:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now that's brilliant.
• 41:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the guys have a little family.
• 41:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's got a gravely voice, but the songs are like, they just, you relate to them because you're from the south, because you're from the south.
• 41:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: the name again cigarettes at sunset cigarettes at sunset.
• 41:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I will check them out.
• 41:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I literally recommendation.
• 41:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I literally bought for this.
• 41:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I never do this by the way.
• 41:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I bought four tickets to the show at the Georgia Theatre coming up like an October.
• 41:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now it sounds like a work form.
• 41:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 41:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I bought four tickets.
• 41:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 41:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not knowing who's going to go.
• 41:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I just bought four tickets because there's still tickets, right?
• 41:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is not our concerts these days, so $105.
• 41:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
• 41:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: 18 bucks.
• 41:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting tickets.
• 41:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting tickets.
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's where it's at, man.
• 41:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the local music and the more the regional bands, the superstars doing their hand.
• 41:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: World tours, charge in this ticket, prices.
• 41:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got no interest, you know.
• 41:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can just, you know, see the musical purist like you, right?
• 41:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I just like the music, right?
• 42:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: You love the music.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Amen.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love a good story.
• 42:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love an artist.
• 42:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody who can like Jimmy Page, who can make things happen that you're like, how did he do that?
• 42:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can appreciate that.
• 42:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a big fan of Prague Rock, but I appreciate.
• 42:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can appreciate it because they're playing in time signatures that I don't, how did you put those two together?
• 42:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 42:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can't go from six to four nine.
• 42:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: What is even four nine?
• 42:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?
• 42:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: like those things are impressive to me, but if I'm going to turn something on, I want it to be a good either good musicianship or it's good songwriting.
• 42:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.
• 42:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
• 42:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some people and I want to ask if you're this person.
• 42:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: When the artist becomes, let's say, political.
• 42:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Are they make statements?
• 42:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Are they?
• 42:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Does that affect your ability to listen to them?
• 42:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: yeah everybody's entitled to their opinion and everybody has the freedom to say what they want to say everybody has to do to deal with consequences but they're actions so I've never been wanting to say well you know I'm not you know I'm a third their records weigh or whatever I've never done that but I don't you know I don't
• 43:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: judge me one who does.
• 43:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's their decision.
• 43:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, of course, you know, a lot of folks will complain about, you know, like Bruce Springstein or Tom Morello from Rage Against the Machine are other like more kind of left-leaning decisions.
• 43:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dixie chicks.
• 43:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dixie chicks.
• 43:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dixie chicks, what's that?
• 43:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't care anything about their political views, but them dropping Dixie.
• 43:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's just bad as lady and a bellom saying we're lady a now.
• 43:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like immediately both of them just no respect all right.
• 43:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
• 43:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the local correctness run a mark.
• 43:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but no for anyone who you know musical lover.
• 43:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would say this
• 43:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: If just because this particular musician doesn't match your politics and you say you're going to quit listening to him or quit buying the records, I mean, I think that's a bad look for for for for for you for that person, but you know, I saw it from the other direction.
• 44:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, 2001, when Eric Clapton, I don't know if you remember this, he put out a song criticizing the government response to COVID and all the mandates in the over
• 44:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And all that, and I mean, he just got destroyed by everybody mainstream media.
• 44:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were actually doing album burnings throughout America.
• 44:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Clapton, Eric, I don't remember this.
• 44:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a 2021.
• 44:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: This has got to stop.
• 44:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a name of it.
• 44:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Great song.
• 44:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I tell you, really spoke to me at that time, because that was really what that was when the mandates were hitting hard.
• 44:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like saying, you've got to get the job.
• 44:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've got to lose your job.
• 44:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hell, we might take your kids.
• 44:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was great.
• 44:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: The world went crazy.
• 44:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, everybody knows that.
• 44:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody remembers that.
• 45:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some folks, you know, like, try to, like, forget our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our,
• 45:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: dressed up a little bit or gaslight, but it happened.
• 45:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
• 45:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 45:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Clapton put our song that really spoke to all that and just nailed it.
• 45:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And for a lot of folks, like myself, in meant the world.
• 45:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: See me.
• 45:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, there's someone out there that builds what I'm feeling.
• 45:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, all throughout America and Europe, they were actually organizing Eric Clapton album burnings crazy and like filming it and so burning stuff is that sound familiar Burn the art burn the art.
• 45:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe what we believe so destroy it.
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I mean, it's just hard to separate to the fact that art politics
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: We write about love and politics.
• 45:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, that's about what we write about.
• 45:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, yeah, that's our least, you know, our perspective of the world and our philosophy, and our beliefs, and so yeah, absolutely.
• 46:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's certainly berries, and that's the beauty of America.
• 46:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: We all don't have to agree.
• 46:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: So what's in the I was going to say CD player.
• 46:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what I call it is a what do you play in right now?
• 46:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: What am I spending?
• 46:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do you say that's a that's a that's a good way to say.
• 46:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: What are you spending?
• 46:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: So let's see here Pink Floyd been on a Pink Floyd kick.
• 46:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, here like the out and most all their albums between CD and vinyl is that for him because why not always.
• 46:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of Jerry Jeff Walker.
• 46:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's Jerry Jeff's my guy.
• 46:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And always law willy.
• 46:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, especially willy in the family live.
• 46:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm probably listening that out.
• 46:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: 300 jobs like I can just I can start it and just listen to the whole thing.
• 47:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do you think of his sons?
• 47:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's really good.
• 47:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got chance to see him last summer at one of those amphitheaters in Northside about Atlanta.
• 47:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Robert Plant, Allison Krauss opened.
• 47:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 47:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: just amazing voices yes and the stuff they've been doing again this was their second album they've done two albums and they've done multiple tours I mean it is just esoteric Americana amazing the midset was this guy named Bob Billan and then the headline was supposed to be in Willy
• 47:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which would have been my third time seeing Willie Lab all time, but he came down with, uh, I think pneumonia.
• 47:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's son.
• 47:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bill Dan Lucas Rokus and with an assist from Derek Trucks in Susan, what's her last name?
• 48:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Are they both Trucks?
• 48:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 48:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 48:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: To that.
• 48:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: To that season.
• 48:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: To that season.
• 48:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 48:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Derek Trucks.
• 48:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 48:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was a heck of a show.
• 48:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 48:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm very impressed.
• 48:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 48:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I ran into you.
• 48:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: You remember there's a run into you at Chestine at a Willie Show?
• 48:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: It must have been the first second time you saw it.
• 48:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was 20, 17.
• 48:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the one where the world was supposed to have opened.
• 48:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but he died and then the first Chris Christophe was and filled in.
• 48:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Chris.
• 48:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I mean, I would love to see the world with all the day in Chris Christophe.
• 48:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I do remember I remember running into you for that one.
• 48:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was my second time seeing.
• 48:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, boy, those guys are getting old.
• 48:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: and I was lost tomorrow with lost Chris with the cash will he's like a whole man river just keeps just keeps no one can just keep throwing along
• 48:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever he's been doing, seems to work.
• 48:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying we should all take note.
• 48:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, yeah, I'm saying.
• 48:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
• 49:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, and just across the board, we've already seen it, but especially next few years, we're going to lose so many of our heroes, our favorite musicians.
• 49:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
• 49:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, anybody, you mentioned a few locals, I am just not good at the local scene, when they do hit local, like regionally, I'll go see somebody.
• 49:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I tell you, we have had a wealth of talent you know, spring out of our area, coming to Newton County and just kind of the East Metro area,
• 49:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: you know, she was playing regionally, you know, playing big shows with the Indigo girls and Pat Benatar opening for folks like that.
• 49:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 49:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thomas Tillman.
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thomas.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 49:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Barry Talented, just heck of a gap and so many others over the years and so on, that, that, that, that,
• 50:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, kind of had a hat, you know, had a thing going and then they sorted you know, just kind of got out, but whatever, but right now currently, of course, you know, one all-time favorites, Chris John and Scott.
• 50:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my three main guys, Chris Don and then John and Scott Lanceburg, they're just such great great musicians.
• 50:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just party band man, right?
• 50:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: The great party band.
• 50:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they, they, they, they really, they do it well.
• 50:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they do it well.
• 50:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then also, I just, and there's so many others I'm forgetting the name so many, you know, when I was writing my music column, I was covering at weekend and week out.
• 50:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And just for several years there, we just had so many great great folks performing around.
• 50:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we have a couple moved to Nashville.
• 50:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right.
• 50:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cory Crowder.
• 50:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cory Crowder.
• 50:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
• 50:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: We still, I think, songwriting.
• 50:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think, doing Nashville.
• 50:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
• 50:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Drew.
• 50:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 50:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 50:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Drew Carter.
• 50:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 50:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, Drew.
• 50:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's kind of a conversion of late.
• 51:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think.
• 51:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 51:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Revival of sort.
• 51:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's a man.
• 51:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
• 51:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's putting music out and I think even the gospel world now, too.
• 51:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's right.
• 51:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
• 51:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good for him.
• 51:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 51:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like Drew.
• 51:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a good old fella.
• 51:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Good family, too.
• 51:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 51:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 51:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
• 51:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: When you know everybody, you're like, yeah.
• 51:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
• 51:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good job, little bit.
• 51:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
• 51:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 51:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, we, uh, we harm the open for him, uh, twice, uh, well, we open for him at, uh, remember it was our spread pub before social go.
• 51:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... we had line for uh... for his man at the time and uh... and then later we we share the show at the relay for cancer uh... out there on the church on uh... one forty two yep and uh... and at that time he had a couple McCart boys playing with him uh... and his man yeah uh... uh... uh... okay uh... yeah i'm looking okay okay play uh... play church here play then uh... yeah life and now i think yeah and there's no thirty six play there for a while
• 52:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was really good and then the bass player was Taylor McCarty.
• 52:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so and I'm actually Distantly relayed to both of them.
• 52:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, of course you are right coming out down there pretty much all McCarty George, do you go back to the the same source?
• 52:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, is that gonna be Scottish?
• 52:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just gonna be Irish Irish.
• 52:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's uh of course, you know Back then, you know, it was kind of like everything was just where Scotch Irish gives you so much you mixing But yeah, I believe
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Oki is my fifth cousin once removed.
• 52:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it goes way back, you know, where distantly related, but all the cards go back to two brothers who came to Georgia from South Carolina in the early 19th century.
• 52:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 52:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: So pardon me for my ignorance, but I grew up in, you know, Greenwood Circle, Townley Lane over there, had a bookers peel road here.
• 53:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, for those listening, that is a real place.
• 53:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bookers peel road?
• 53:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, yes.
• 53:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: But there was McCart's grocery store, you know, I think one of the McCart's drove a bus or something had a diesel shop.
• 53:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
• 53:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of them how they they're a part of that branch.
• 53:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 53:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: So not like just only relating.
• 53:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, um, I think, uh, and, you know, yeah, those two, they were brothers and they did the Christmas lights contest.
• 53:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 53:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 53:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And whoever lost,
• 53:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: had to pay the winner's electricity bill from up to December.
• 53:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's not true.
• 53:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just great Lord.
• 53:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 53:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, those were all part of those two brothers, right?
• 53:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I come from the younger brother.
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: He came to coming to an 1850.
• 53:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: all the North Oxford and McCartes came from that older brother who originally went to go a net in I think the 1830s.
• 53:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 54:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they're derived from that branch.
• 54:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm derived from that other branch.
• 54:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the McCart brothers are talking about if like I lived like I said, I would go by every day every day going into coming in and going to school, whatever.
• 54:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when they built a pool swimming pool, they had a Christmas time.
• 54:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Santa was always on the diving board.
• 54:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, as a kid, he's like memory that will never go away.
• 54:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Santa on the diving board.
• 54:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you the memories that so many of us have in our area around here, of those Christmas lights, both their houses, bond memories, kind of up there with hearing, well, in Cabinchen proper.
• 54:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: right there on Floyd Street, the little pond where they have Santa in the boat.
• 54:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right, that's pretty neat.
• 54:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty neat as well.
• 54:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 54:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that was where we all would go to see the lights.
• 54:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't like to see you coming to might have had a little thing on a street light here there.
• 54:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe.
• 55:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it was not the big to do it is now where every building's lit up and you Santa.
• 55:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they switch.
• 55:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's all right.
• 55:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: We had to go out to McCartland.
• 55:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's all right.
• 55:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's all right.
• 55:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's all right.
• 55:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Really, really, really.
• 55:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: What else do you got going on?
• 55:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Anything else?
• 55:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: You give us any trends in real estate?
• 55:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what's going on here?
• 55:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, for now.
• 55:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, things are...
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• 55:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: things are I mean they could certainly be worse I think and it's all about you know it's location location location you might have one localized mark at the student better or not as good as another one but I would say for for the most park having to meet in County East Metro corridor things are holding a pretty steady I'd say year over year in terms of sales volume basically kind of kind of
• 56:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, property values have eased up a little bit, which is that will help with the cutting down property tax increases.
• 56:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 56:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so, um, and again, you know, it's just all about, you know, the property where it's at specifically, um, and of course, uh,
• 56:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of other dynamics come into play, but they could definitely be worse.
• 56:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's holding pretty good.
• 56:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: If we could get a cut to the Fed discount rate in October, that might be helpful.
• 56:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
• 56:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, I know you can't predict that, but if that were to happen, I don't think they're going to do it.
• 56:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're going to go away until next year.
• 56:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I heard that the consumer price index, the CPI was down this month to 2.1% so I think it was, I think that triggered them to say, well, let's just hold on because let's just hold steady.
• 57:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I mean, they have two primary objectives, minimize unemployment.
• 57:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: and minimize emplish.
• 57:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 57:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's it.
• 57:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's all that they're supposed to consider.
• 57:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 57:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if they see inflation down, they're like, okay, this is good.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And now.
• 57:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 57:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Smiley problem is, uh, and I know we've been talking about an hour now, but uh, and I know you don't want to get to political.
• 57:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
• 57:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I feel like we still haven't felt the financial impact of this crazy war yet.
• 57:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's one of those lag measures like when it hits, we're going to be like, oh, man, we're just come from like, oh, what a minute.
• 57:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, it came from 20 25 25 whatever, you know, 25 when it started, 26.
• 57:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we could point back to and go remember those decisions made.
• 57:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's why years, right, gas is four dollars now.
• 57:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.
• 57:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um,
• 57:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's, that's another one to that of one of those causes to me, kind of, maybe I'm plugging a little bit.
• 58:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know, I'm a peacock, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
• 58:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And really a lot of folks felt like they've been sold, you know, a bad bill of goods.
• 58:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because we did want war.
• 58:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And now we have more war or any had a war or had you cramed?
• 58:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 58:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we've been sending them so much terms of supplies and ammunition.
• 58:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, we've got another one.
• 58:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I tell you, a concerning thing is how the Pentagon is now sounding alarm bells.
• 58:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: like we are dangerously low on our supplies.
• 58:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and if they're saying that out loud, if they're saying that out loud, yes.
• 58:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's not good.
• 58:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So man.
• 58:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 58:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know.
• 58:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't really want to go there.
• 58:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I just, you know, again, it's that thing.
• 58:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like feeling like you're just banging your head against the brick wall.
• 58:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 59:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.
• 59:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you see, you see.
• 59:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Folks on social media and going back and forth and never does any good, right, people have their preconceived notions, a lot of folks prefer to just remain in their own echo chambers, and how else sometimes maybe.
• 59:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: things have got to get really bad before maybe we can try to fix.
• 59:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 59:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I guess if you're going to stay quiet for a minute, maybe you're like, it's coming.
• 59:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: But maybe the really bad is coming and then I'll get back out there with his time to pick up the pieces.
• 59:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ah.
• 59:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know your strategy.
• 59:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, probably a lot of it is for your mental health too.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh my gosh, I can't keep seeing this every day.
• 59:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.
• 59:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I will say this before we sound off, and I don't want to invite political career on the end of a Martial Macart, more hour podcast, but you know, I am more and more every day finding myself a, um,
• 59:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: an orphan, a political, political homeless, politically homeless, you know, a party orphan, whatever you want to call it, because I don't recognize the, the, the, the maga train.
• 1:00:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I also don't want to be any part of any socialist democratic anything.
• 1:00:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if these are the two options right now, what we're really, we're really, we're really passionate.
• 1:00:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the the kicker, man, the crazy thing is,
• 1:00:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: these two sides may be 20 to 30% of the overall elective.
• 1:00:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
• 1:00:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the messy middle.
• 1:00:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for the love the majority.
• 1:00:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: So let's let's get triple iteration here.
• 1:00:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: The majority messy middle.
• 1:00:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 1:00:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: We got come together, man.
• 1:00:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be the only thing.
• 1:00:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: We've got kick both for ingest to the curb.
• 1:00:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: We need to tell the these maga crazies and the socialist.
• 1:00:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, get the heck out here.
• 1:00:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: let the adults take over and, you know, and win the time is right.
• 1:00:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: you know I'm I'm ready to help in any way I can but I don't think we're quite there yet.
• 1:01:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have a good perspective yesterday that I think is something that I would like to chew them for a while and it was someone was basically asking why the rise in this democratic socialism in the younger generation, right?
• 1:01:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: The Dixon Millennials in younger, you know, why is
• 1:01:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, there's, to me, to, to primary factors, one is they didn't study at in school like we did and their grandparents didn't actually live through it.
• 1:01:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 1:01:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 1:01:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: So the socialism has been an experiment that has never worked ever in history and it's not, why, why are we so?
• 1:01:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: hubris to think that we can do it better.
• 1:01:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll get the better version.
• 1:01:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think there's just the fact that I don't know if people have studied it enough where it used to be something that was we had to study.
• 1:01:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: We were aware.
• 1:01:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: We were closer to it to now it's like we don't even talk about it.
• 1:01:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a very good point.
• 1:01:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: The second part though I think that it's what I want to unpack more later as I get gathered my thoughts around it is.
• 1:02:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: if you are, if you've been told about this American dream or this, that's the ethos and you, what you live in, you grow up in this, you know, your teen informative years in this American dream kind of mentality.
• 1:02:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then you can't buy property.
• 1:02:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can't buy a home.
• 1:02:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like you have no ownership, maybe at least your car.
• 1:02:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like you're out.
• 1:02:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: It, the, the, the, the, the, buy,
• 1:02:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: medical, whatever the two-party system, when they're more moderate and you actually have ownership, when a capitalist person who lives in that society has ownership,
• 1:02:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: things go a lot smoother.
• 1:02:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
• 1:02:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: When you don't have ownership right now you're going, well, hang on, I can't be a part of the point.
• 1:02:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: There will be a lead anywhere.
• 1:02:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: The government's going to have to help me out.
• 1:02:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:02:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: That sounds a little better over there that democratic socialism sounds like, well, at least I can buy.
• 1:02:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: At least I'll have Brad and roof of my house.
• 1:02:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:02:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think that, you know, our economic law to unpack there, but our economic system in our is so closely tied to our political system.
• 1:03:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes,
• 1:03:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: for ownership for people in younger you know the younger generations are so stacked against them and i think you're you're absolutely right on both of of those counts and uh... you know unfortunately you know we have not had a truly capitalist society and
• 1:03:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: decades, right?
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we were a corporatist society, and the unholy alliance, a big government, and then all the other big big business form a big agriculture, big all the things, big war, the big ones, right?
• 1:03:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Terri industrial complex.
• 1:03:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then all of the the various lobbyists and hangers on that beat off of that, they're like parasites.
• 1:03:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so that we, we
• 1:03:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:03:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:03:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Can't ship all the jobs overseas become like this financial services, you know, country and then expect to be another 250.
• 1:04:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:04:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Another 250 years.
• 1:04:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Never make it.
• 1:04:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't have a chance.
• 1:04:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: We might not even make 270.
• 1:04:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 1:04:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot of depression.
• 1:04:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: One last thing.
• 1:04:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: What's something to give you hope?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: How about that curve?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I know where something that gives me hope is.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, ultimately, I do believe, I believe in people, I think, I think for the most reality, you know, you got bad folks out there, but got a lot of good folks out there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It really do care and, you know, I believe in good Lord Almighty and, you know, on the earthly realm here, we're nothing's going to ever be perfect, you know, obviously, and so, you know,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, but even with them, we know we're gonna go home to glory, but while we are here, we do want things to be better, want things to be better for ourselves, for our kids.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I like that answer.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I'm going to be getting back in the fray at some point.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I've just maybe been kind of feeling sorry for myself a little bit.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't need for that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And just getting a little negative on things.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Plus, it must save this for our third time together.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The whole A-art thing is just got me.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, you're saturated in the house and data centers and everything else that goes with it all the things.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, when you kick in at hills, you're going to get bit sometimes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll scratch them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They'll heal and you get back out there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sir.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, look, Marshall McCart, make sure you check out the Piedmont Chronicles.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There's still some, there's great historic stuff there and I'm sure some more stuff's coming down the path.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It is.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It is.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, yep.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, yep.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, dude.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey man.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Enjoy it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, always do such a bunch.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: See you.