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8 - FAFO? FAF5! Would You F5 A Pig? · Singlets & Suplexes: A Pro Wrestling Podcast

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Hello, welcome to Singlets and Suplexes, your pro wrestling
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podcast. I am Pete.
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I'm Luke. Evening.
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Evening, Luke. You ready to talk some
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wrestling? I am, yeah I am, but got a bit
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of a cold just on a 50 minute round trip of Pokémon cards that
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was sold out so I need to pick me up so this is the perfect way
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to do it. Exactly it is indeed, and the
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perfect cure for any cold is to talk about the past week in
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professional wrestling before diving into sports entertainment
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nostalgia. Everybody knows that, even the
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local GPS and all that. Luke, I take it you were
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unsuccessful on hunting for Pokémon cards?
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I was the man said I'd missed them by 5 minutes.
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So I try to find some people in the car park for a parking lot
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brawl but it was dark so no luck.
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So with rising petrol prices, a bit of a frustrating trip to be
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honest. I think I've done the wrong
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thing, but you know, the thrillers in the chase.
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Did. They.
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Did they not offer everybody a ball and the ball could
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guarantee you the toys? It's getting a bit Jingle all
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the way, to be honest. This Pokémon gig, I got some
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last Friday because I was lucky enough to be off work, but
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unless you were unemployed, it's it very much is Jingle all the
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way. Rodney King.
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Rodney King bad every day of the week.
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I love him. Yeah, it's a great reference.
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Actually. This is off topic, but I was in
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Asda quite recently and there was a little kid, he got about
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10, he got the last Destined Rivals 10 off the cut off the
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shelf. But I noticed this young boy was
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on his own. So I started following him
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because I thought his parents might say no.
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Then I was like, what the fuck am I doing?
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I'm following a kid around us. That's why I let him go.
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So I hope his parents, so I hope his parents said yes.
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Yes, I hope they did. I hope he's enjoying all the
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good pulls, all the cards. Yeah, he better got some good
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pulls because I would look very bad on the cameras.
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He would just saw they come behind him and follow him for
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about 1 aisle. Would you ever done that?
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Would you ever do that for wrestling figures or that?
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I would, I would, I would have back in the day because back in
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the day shops were better at holding stuff for you.
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So what I used to do is iPhone them myself in the morning,
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normally Forbidden Planet, get them to hold them for them and
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then me little Nana would go and pick them up when I was at
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school. So it was me Nana, doing the
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doing the legwork back in the day for figures.
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Wow, what absolute. I think I'm going to have to get
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on the phone cause to be honest she's just going to have to go
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wait in queues for us. Yeah, what do you mean I only
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have one? My grandson says I need forget 5
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at least. It would everything about that
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would confuse her. The modern world of Portman
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Collector should be so confused. Which Pokémon you think would be
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the best wrestler? Obviously we're probably talking
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Hitman Chan, Hitman League maybe, but like out of which
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which? Which Pokémon do you think will
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be the best wrestler? Maybe Snorlax?
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Super heavyweight. Yeah, match champ.
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Match Champ. Oh, I am a champ as well.
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I. He's got he wears a wrestling
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belt, doesn't he? Yeah, he does.
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He has some sort of belt. I don't know what kind.
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I mean, it's, it's, you know, yeah, 100%.
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I wonder if imagine like MU 2 would be like he's like the
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undertaker of Pokémon would you say or not?
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Not a good shout that. Yeah, that's a good analogy if
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if you were saying who's who. Should we dive into some
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housekeeping? Definitely.
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Indeed, we don't want to bore. We don't know how many listeners
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like Pokémon, so we'll move on. But I enjoyed that that was.
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Fun. We'll save that for a Pokémon
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podcast that will launch at some point.
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Yes, indeed, Pokémon is coming soon to the podcast feed
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everybody. So we've had a cool question
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from Lou on Spotify. So again, if you are listening
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to the podcast and you listen on Spotify, you can leave.
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You can leave comments on each episode.
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So on our last episode, Lou left this comment and then it becomes
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part of Housekeeping this week. So if you want to be part of the
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show, you can just leave comments on the episodes and we
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will pick them up. So this was sort of not really
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related to anything happening in the week, but it was quite cool.
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So Lou said favorite journalist slash personality talking pro
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wrestling from outside of the business.
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And Lou said that they love it when Kevin Bridges often brings
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up things about wrestling like out the blue just because he
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loves it and it's built in his brain.
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Sometimes he would be interviewed and someone will say
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something and he just like he comes out with like how it's
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related to wrestling and like confuses everybody there who
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doesn't know what it is. But to him, like he's one of us
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basically in those moments is what Lou's saying.
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And Lou loves it when Kevin Bridges does that.
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I think I love when Kevin Bridges did it when I'm sure
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they mentioned about Calgary, about a condo ones and he went,
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Oh yeah, home about the hitman heart.
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And then everyone on the couch was like what you're talking
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about. He's like Brett, the hitman
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heart, like the wrestler. I don't know if you've seen that
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one, Luke. Yeah, I have, and it's quite
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relevant actually. It was something I was going to
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message you about, but I forgot. But I was watching series 2 of
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Ted, you know, the Seth MacFarlane one with the torn
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teddy bear. Yep.
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And it's it's like it's a prequel to the movies.
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So it's like kind of mid 90s. And like the guy's dad, he's
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like a pro, like he was in Vietnam.
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He's just like a daft American racist.
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And there was a scene where cut through the other day where he
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was sat watching WrestleMania. Brett Hart versus your Kazuna.
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And your Kazuna drops the leg drop on Brett Hart and he goes,
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he can't do that. Brett Hart, you big fat
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foreigner. That product that product popped
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is so that was that week last year.
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So yeah, I quite like the little reference in Ted.
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But the goal with your example of obviously like Kevin Bridges
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reference in it, Jack Whitehall as well.
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It was quite random at the start of AW, can you remember where he
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was kind of their bit holding the title belt.
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And I know he's a big wrestling fan, but it is always cool when
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people who you wouldn't like, when people like outside of the
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wrestling Bob, you know, our fans always used to like.
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It doesn't happen as much now, but I feel it was a four or five
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year stint with their Adam Sandler.
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One of mine heroes was kind of front row at WrestleMania for
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about 5 years. So I know he's a big fan.
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He is indeed. He is indeed.
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And Tim Robbins as well, who are probably a big fan of.
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He used quite a few wrestlers in his sketch show on Netflix.
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I know Brody King was in it, Nemeth, Nick Nemeth brother.
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I can't remember his name, he was in it.
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But I know Tim Robbins always tries to use wrestlers in his
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stuff as he can. So that's always cool when they
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pop up because I'm big fan of his stuff.
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Obviously Paul Waterhouse has obviously a big wrestling fan of
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he has wrestled. Now obviously he is a is he a
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Golden Globe winner or Emmy winner?
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He's I'm sure he's won an Emmy. Yeah, for Blackbird, which is a,
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which is a brilliant series, Yeah, was deservedly one.
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But yeah, he's doing big stuff, isn't he?
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Yes, indeed. And what's that none of us have
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mentioned because from outside of the business.
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So I would say that Meltzer is outside of the business because
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he's just a journalist who talks about the business, right?
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He's not, he's not in the wrestling business.
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He's in the talking about the wrestling business, if that
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makes sense. Yeah.
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But I wouldn't see him because I'm already a fan.
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Yeah, Chris Valiant stuffs always really good and what I
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quite like about his interviews as he gets like quite obscure
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people on so on our curse by the rest of the gods this week he
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did a really good interview with that guy who will come down come
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on do soon. Yeah.
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And I know mavens been on quite a bit and that's what I quite
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like about Valiant. It's not just kind of the bigger
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names you get kind of the more niche kind of hardcore fun
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people who only if you were really into it would really,
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really want to watch that interview.
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And I think that's always pretty cool.
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Is that about Pronounces Chris Van Vleet.
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Is that yes? Is am I pronouncing it wrong?
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Am I? Well, I could be wrong.
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That's how I pronounce it, so maybe he was right.
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Peter or Luke tell us in the comments.
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I think what he does, well, I mean, obviously, you know,
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anyone could do it if you prep well, but people don't.
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But he either really does his research beforehand or he just
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has that encyclopedic knowledge. And like I say, when he's got
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the more obscure, I guess on like, references stuff where
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like, you can see even the guy, the interview, and he's like, Oh
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yeah, fuck yeah, I did do that, didn't I?
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Yeah. And talks about it.
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So he does really well researched or he's just kind of
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a huge fan like us and he has that in his brain to pull out.
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But either way, I think he's he does, he's a good interviewer as
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well, as well as the kind of guests that you get on.
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He's a fantastic interview. I really, I really love your
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stuff. I really dig it.
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And he has he's capable of having a great interview with
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like see the superstar, like Drew McIntyre or like someone
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from the Indies. You can have the same like top
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quality interview where even if you don't really know much about
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that wrestler, but where he gets them to tell like their story
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and talk about the questions he asks just get you like involved
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and you you're intrigued straight away and you actually
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learn something new about them, which is really cool.
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If you could interview any wrestler, Chris Van Veet style.
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So it's it's Luke Van Veet, right or Luke Valiant.
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You'll be called Luke Valiant, right, Luke Valiant.
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He was the one. You can pick any wrestler that
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are alive who we interviewing. Oh well, as I've said there, I
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think Macho Man that would be good because I feel like there's
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not a lot of match Roman interviews because he was quite
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carefy, wasn't he? So I feel like a big sit down
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interview with the match Roman will be really good.
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There's a lot of lot of things that could be broached on that
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topic. I.
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Love that because it would be a great interview and because
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there was not many of them like that.
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You're right, it would be brilliant, but also I think it
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would take a bit to break him down from like out of character.
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But that would be a good challenge for you to get your
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teeth into as well. So you'd have to do a great job,
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which you would do because I've got faith in you, Luke Valiant,
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you would do a great job. And then if I wanted a more
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obscure one, someone who I was always a fan of and like, good,
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he never kind of got over bigger than he did.
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But obviously he's got a nice little number now in NXT.
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Matt Bloom, Albert, Adrian Tensei.
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I think he's had a really interesting career and I
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remember when Adrian was a gimmick for some reason I would
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have been about 12:30 and maybe he's like, I've really got into
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it and thought he was going to be the next breakout star.
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And then when the repartition was Tensai in the videos, I
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thought, oh, this is going to be it because he'd been away and
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done some good stuff in Japan. So I think he's had a really
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long story career, which he's now kind of a big part of NXT,
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so I think he could be a really cool interview.
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Actually, there's a more obscure 1.
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No, he definitely, he definitely could be.
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Thank you. I will pick.
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I'll probably I would pick. I would do Brett Hart and I
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would focus the majority interview talking about like the
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Stampede wrestling days and where it was like wrestling and
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territories and sort of and sort of growing up, growing up in the
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wrestling family. I mean, he's obviously he's got
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his book out, which is absolutely fantastic.
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I don't know if you knew this. I haven't listened to it yet,
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but apparently Brett's audiobooks now available and
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Brett narrates it. Oh, does he?
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So yeah, so because I've had the book for a long time, I got
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Brett to sign it back in. Yeah, I bet that's 20 years old,
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That book now, depressingly. No, I will be I so but but yeah,
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so the audio book of Brexit. So I would do that and obviously
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wouldn't ask him about Goldberg any of that because you know,
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that's what people do. But I'll keep it obvious on that
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type of stuff and ask all some of his favorite opponents from
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the Stampede days, I think which will hear about like the
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different characters who come from the territory will be
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really fun. And this for more for more of an
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obscure one, I think I would probably do.
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And again, he's not that obscure, but I would love to do
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it to Giri just because like. He's been.
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He's been everywhere, right done everything worked for everyone
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like so that that would be really cool.
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I think to get his his view on his view on the comedy side, his
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view on cruiserweight wrestling, his view on hardcore wrestling,
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his view on sort of Japanese culture becoming into wrestling.
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The Mist obviously taking home from the Great Muta, the Mist
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which will be part of our moment in time match today when we get
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that would be really cool. Tajiri actually, because I've
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like I fell down rabbit hole recently where because the the
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WE vault on YouTube is absolutely fun, fantastic.
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If people haven't checked that out yet.
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And there was like an hour 20 compilation of Tajiri, great
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stuff like brilliant, like ECW, like WWE, like a prior varied
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mix. So if someone wants a nice
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little hour and 20 minutes, Tajiri's best of on the Vault.
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Well worth a watch. Wasn't there a bit when then he
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stealed Tori Wilson from him? From him, But he came in once.
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A mail address and a kimono on that.
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He did, yes. Yeah.
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And then he got very yeah, Yeah, he did.
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And then because he also had a he had them a key and Sakoda, he
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got put with them and Vince wanted them to be the Japanese,
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a cruiser and like to jury, like probably speak up and say, like
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you don't understand that. Like I'll get murdered by the
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real Yakuza. Like if you have me betrayed
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them on Teller, like you don't understand how serious this is.
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And then I think Vince actually did some digging and was like,
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OK, fair enough. Wow, good old mini Mackay.
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Yeah. Obviously he's always done some
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serious stuff in ECW. He's worked with Regal, which
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was great. You know, he's, he's done quite
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a lot. No, he is.
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I was just going to say that the stuff with Regal is brilliant as
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well. But you, you, you mentioned it
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and just going back, it was a good question from Lou.
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Another thing that come into my head where again, it's not
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strictly what the question was asked, but Louis through we had
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weekends when he goes to the wrestling and he trains at the
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WCW Power plant. That's an absolutely fantastic
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watch. I love that episode because it's
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one episode where he gets owned because, like he makes the
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contract of being fake and then it's the sword who hears.
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He says the Sergeant Sage no sells in the first, but the next
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day he's at the PowerPoint training massage and sage beasts
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and makes him be sick in a book. He doesn't he and he's like, is
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that sweat fake? It's what you're doing today
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fake, and then we through like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I said it
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was fake. You probably double S back,
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doesn't he? He also asks Piper if it's fake
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and like, Piper looks like you may have consumed some things
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and Piper looks like he's going to break his fucking neck.
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That's a like cool interaction. Pipe, that's definitely good and
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we shouldn't that's the point. You left cameras backstage.
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You shouldn't see people that I don't think.
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And that's a shame. I'll happen.
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But you know, some of these wrestlers had certainly not a
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year had substance problems and pipe was clearly under the
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influence. And yeah, it's anybody hasn't
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watched the W. It's not just about WW.
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Essentially Louis. Backyarders as well, like.
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It's he's looking into sort of the wrestling boom of the 90's,
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the late 90s. What he does is he looks into a
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sort of backyard wrestling. He looks into mainstream
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wrestling, then WCW like welcome them back.
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They give them all access backstage, just mental and not
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the PowerPoint later. And it's like he's because it's
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WCW, no one knows what they're doing.
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He turns up, no one knows he's meant to be there.
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And it's just like, yeah, like there's Goldberg, there's Macho
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Man, there's Roddy Piper. Like go and have a look.
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It's it's any wrestling fan or any Louis Theroux fan should
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check it out. Definitely.
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It's it's on iPlayer as well because I watched it again quite
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recently, so it's easily accessible on iPlayer if you
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haven't seen it because it's just a great documentary.
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I think you could watch it without being a wrestling fan,
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but if you are a wrestling fan you've never caught it on
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iPlayer whenever you choose. There we go.
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Should we go over to the pole? Yeah.
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Let's pull it up the North Pole it is, we asked, do needles
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syringes belong in AAW death matches 100%?
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The vote, which I'm very glad to hear, said no.
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Nobody said yes. And then there was a third
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option, which was Pete is a crybaby.
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Because obviously I was telling everybody how much I am afraid
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of needles. I'm so afraid of needles that I
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once needed a job to go on a holiday.
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I was under 12 just because I'm not a woman, I'm not a woman
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beater. I was under 12 and the nurse
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couldn't give us a needle. And I was reflex action and out.
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And I sort of caught out of the right hand by accident because I
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was like, I don't want the needle, but that's how scared I
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am. But nobody said that, which is
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great. Obviously the needle gates sort
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of died down a bit. Now look, what does that matter?
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You're hearing saying online and having conversations that
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everybody's saying get the needles out.
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Or is it true needles are for the sickles and sickles are for
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AW? No, I think, I think the
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diehards are always going to defend it, but I think the
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general consensus from what I've seen is that it is just too far.
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Like I say, like that match, I put it in a positive on a
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negative because I think the 1st 20 minutes was fucking
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fantastic. But it's just, it does, it just
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goes too far enough. It's going too far for the city
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going too far. And that just did seem to be the
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general consensus, as our poll has shown as well.
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It's good to know the poll was on target this week.
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Thing that brings in a housekeeper nuke nest.
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You've got anything you need to keep clean before we roll into
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our next segment? No, not at all.
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Fantastic. We've all we're all into our
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next segment week in review. This is where me and Luke each
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look at two to three things that we liked and maybe disliked from
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the past week in professional wrestling.
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Luke, I'll let you go first with your first positive.
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Yeah. So as a as a kind of overall,
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like I think this week's episode of Smackdown might have been one
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of the strongest episodes from start to finish.
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So there was kind of a lot to choose from, but kind of I'll go
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with the angle that kind of went from the beginning of the show
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to the end, which was the Drew for two, obviously Jacob versus
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Drew rivalry, amp and up. So it started with kind of Drew
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getting pulled out of his car with a smashed windscreen, loads
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of brawling goes to the ring, Drew still got a digging on Nick
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Aldus. And then they just continued
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this like unstoppable brawl throughout the whole show, which
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ended at the end with a big fall for both of them.
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And I think it's kind of set them up nicely now where it was
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there anyways because of obviously the cost on the title,
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then giving them the title, etcetera.
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But I think this rivalry is done now, as in like we're ready for
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it. They've done a good enough job
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where if they give it a stipulation, which I think
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they're definitely going to do, like it's up there for me.
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I was one of the matches I'm most looking forward to seeing.
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What do you think the situation could be?
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I think it'll be like a no holds barred or a last man standing
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maybes. I would love a last man
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standing. That would be.
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I think we've had one in a while.
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Could be. No, no, I can't.
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I can't remember the last time I had one.
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I. Think, I think those two could
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really do with just just like the whole point of like the last
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man standing. Like it wouldn't be a case of
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like I remember when I think was that Cena who got like his legs
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taped on the ring post and lost one time or now he lost.
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I think this would be like actually one of those beat the I
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want to pulp and corn get up. Well, yeah, I think it'll be big
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because I think, again, I think we've mentioned it already, but
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I think that, you know, the rumors on the dirt sheets is
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that Drew's going straight off to film Highlander.
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So I think you have Jacob go over in a really bloody, brutal
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way, and then I think we're going to get a Jacob title push.
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So I think it kind of sets them both up nicely where Drew has to
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go away anyway. So you write them off with a
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big, bloody, dramatic finish and then you've got him looking like
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the killer, ready to take on whoever has the champion.
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And then imagine right itself, because then obviously Jacob's a
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killer. Say Jacob wins the belt, but
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then once Drew comes back, he's ready for revenge against Jacob,
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isn't he? So you can.
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Only hold this because I think might get oldest drew some
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Aslam. I think that'll be some slap as
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well. What's your thoughts on this?
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So I think on WWE television nearly, we've had a lot of like
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Aldous getting like these buttons pushed and physically
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like pushed around by people. We've also seen the same of like
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Adam Pearce on Raw and like, but like no one gets fined or
18:17
anything. But like back in the day, like
18:19
there would be part of the story and someone would get like fined
18:21
and you wouldn't that would touch them.
18:23
And if you're down the line, Punk's going to touch them and
18:24
it'd be like, Oh no, Punk, like you've touched somebody.
18:26
So, you know, like out of the title match or something.
18:28
I feel the minute they're letting these things slide quite
18:30
a bit, it just seems strange. But in the past, the authority
18:33
figures have had like some sort of protection.
18:35
Yeah, so they do it. They've done it a lot,
18:37
especially with Drew where when he's touched the referees being
18:39
fined. But yeah, the actual authority
18:41
figures. Maybe it's just because it's
18:42
like was a different world now and the two people that are GM
18:45
is used to be right, you know, used to compete themselves.
18:48
Sort of the dawn take it as harshly.
18:50
Do you know what I mean? Where I think that's where it's
18:52
kind of what the argument with all this way.
18:53
It's like, I'll take it, but you're only going to be able to
18:56
push us so far. Will I, well, push back?
18:59
Yeah, but I'm excited for all this and Drew, when that
19:02
happens. But I think they should again,
19:04
at least some are. Some might even push a bit later
19:06
in the year, I think. But I think we'll get that
19:08
eventually. I think it'd be great.
19:09
And then, I don't know, like I'm going off topic here, but do you
19:12
think once Aldous has his match, then does he stay actor for a
19:15
little bit or or what? I think he's a great general
19:18
manager, to be fair. Yeah, I think you just test the
19:20
walls, don't you, Because I think it's that type of thing
19:22
where if, if, if he looks great and it works, then yeah, maybe
19:25
there is a run in there. Definitely.
19:26
And like we had the I saw a fought on Instagram or someone
19:29
met him before the show this week.
19:32
And those suits he's wearing don't do him justice.
19:34
He had a tracksuit on in these in this photo.
19:36
He's fucking huge still. I know he looked big, but like
19:39
you look bigger than most the guys on the roster and that
19:41
tracksuit I've seen him in. So he's obviously fucking
19:44
keeping well up to date in the gym.
19:45
So he looks ready to go. He's jacked.
19:48
Jacked to the gills still. Yeah.
19:50
Oh, massively so, yeah. Fantastic.
19:54
What's your next positive? So the women's tag team title
19:57
picture, because I think they've kind of it's, it's, it's a
20:00
division that's kind of being hot and cold, more cold than hot
20:03
since its inception. But I think they've done a
20:06
really good job of putting like big names in it.
20:08
You know, your Charlotte's, your Alexa's, your Bailey's.
20:11
Obviously you've got the Bellas back.
20:13
And I think it's been 1 where it's kind of slowly built.
20:16
And now it's looking like it's going to be the Bellas versus
20:19
Nya Jack's lash Legend versus Charlotte Alexa.
20:24
Versus Bailey and Lyra and I think like if you look at the
20:28
people in that match, like it's a huge, you know, it's like all
20:31
you've got so many former women's world champion.
20:33
I think it got the potential for a bit of a kind of silence store
20:36
show steer if it's done well. So it was obviously to start on
20:40
Smackdown, the progressive more on raw.
20:42
There's another tag title match this week which I think will go
20:44
into a no finish and you can see that again.
20:46
It's leading to a Fatal Four way that I think could be pretty,
20:49
pretty cool little match in WrestleMania.
20:52
Yeah, I must. When this first started, it was
20:55
just sort of Alex and Charlotte and then the Bellas.
21:01
I was a bit like then the scene what's happened with Bailey and
21:04
and. Lyra.
21:06
Jake Hold again. Yeah, like very interesting now
21:10
and I think yeah, man, yes, coming up and you know, these
21:14
women aren't involved in the main events, which they're not
21:16
obviously the great wrestlers. So you want to be able to
21:18
showcase them so or better way than having the many and also
21:21
makes attacking titles really mean something if you've got
21:23
that many great competitors trying to win it.
21:26
No, 100%. Like I think if you look at that
21:28
and especially with like kind of, you know, AJ, Becky and then
21:31
the other two women's world title pictures, like I think the
21:33
women's division is kind of really deep, but also strong at
21:36
the moment as well. I think it because it, I think
21:38
it kind of had a tie that it dipped a bit, but I think it's
21:40
back in a really solid good place, kind of like everywhere
21:43
you look. It certainly is on your final
21:47
positive for the week. Yeah, so I'll, I'll go with the
21:51
one that I think you might not pick because I think there's two
21:53
that you probably go with as well.
21:55
But oh, Jelly Roll just generally, like I thought when
21:59
he was back at some Aslam, he had his tag match.
22:01
I thought he did really well. And I think he's really good.
22:04
Like it's a really good talker. Like I've enjoyed his stuff with
22:07
Randy where he's been trying to kind of talk Randy back from the
22:10
Edge. And then he went out and had a
22:12
port rebuttal with Kate Wilson this week.
22:14
And I thought it was just the right level of like silliness.
22:17
And it's great to see Kate Wilson kind of gotten over so
22:20
much where it looks like he's definitely going to be at
22:22
WrestleMania, which six months ago probably would have sounded
22:24
mad. And he's going to be in a big
22:26
high profile celebrity kind of spot.
22:28
Obviously, he's meant to face him on Smackdown this week.
22:30
I think he'll probably end up being A tag match of some kind
22:32
of Mania. But yeah, I just think every
22:34
time Jelly rolls being there, like for an outsider, you know,
22:37
a celebrity, it doesn't always go a plan.
22:39
I think he's been kind of, he's up there now.
22:41
I think is one of the best celebrities they've had in
22:43
there. So I think he's done a great
22:45
job. I think it's great to see how he
22:47
interacts with people like Randy and then people are on the card
22:49
like Kit. I think he's able to add
22:51
something to every act he's interacted with so far, which is
22:53
great. I think I've I've heard that he
22:57
treats it backstage very respectively.
22:59
So he's been at events and stuff where like he's helped take on
23:02
the ring, I'll clean the ring. He's been at training sessions
23:05
where he's helped do that type of thing as well.
23:06
And people have been like, oh, you don't need to do that.
23:07
He's like, no, well, no, show me how we're doing, I'll do it.
23:10
So he has sort of been that old school type of like, I respect
23:12
this. I want to respect like the
23:14
values of this like like show me, let me learn.
23:19
And then I'll I'll add 1. I can add to it, which I think
23:22
is really, really powerful. Do you think he's tag team
23:26
partner? WrestleMania will be my Cardona.
23:28
No, not at all. Not at all.
23:30
Especially probably probably could.
23:32
Well, we'll talk about my cardona and imagine your
23:34
positives, am I right? Well, a fantastic salon, the
23:38
best selling in the business that was.
23:40
We'll go into that. So no, I don't.
23:42
I mean, one of the one of the rumors is that's going to be
23:44
Royce Keys. I mean, hey, he needs a big.
23:48
He needs. Since the Rumble, we haven't
23:50
seen Royce Keys. I think that will be a big thing
23:51
for him. Yeah, so that's that's that's
23:55
the rumor I've heard. So yeah.
23:57
But I don't think it'll be my car door now, but so, yeah.
24:00
So we'll we'll move that on then.
24:01
So what were your positives of the week then?
24:03
So I just thought, obviously Cody's off television.
24:06
How do you progress this Randy Orton storyline?
24:08
I know you insert the complete Matt Cardona and obviously, you
24:14
know, Matt's there like a chumpy on this segment.
24:16
You know, he's they get sort of pummeled by Orton, then fake
24:19
apology get pummeled again. You know, it's it's not the most
24:22
ceremonious thing to do and you know, you're not a hero.
24:26
But I think just the way he's sold just the backstage bump was
24:31
like he took it. There's only he know he works
24:33
very stiff. He's very real takes that bump
24:34
really well. Now.
24:36
I think in the ring with Randy, you know, like the way he took
24:39
all the bumps was just like really sore that they make Randy
24:42
look like a killer. And I thought that was
24:44
absolutely class. Randy doing lots of good work as
24:48
well. Yeah, only in that confused me
24:51
is that obviously the turn Randy heel and heels aren't meant to
24:54
tell the truth. But you called him a mark, a
24:56
stooge and an Indian nerd. So that was confusing because he
24:58
was telling the truth. He's the indie God.
25:01
I'm just saying what Randy said, May he called, he said he was an
25:04
Indian nerd and he should go play with his figures.
25:06
You've got lots of figures. I saw he's I think it was cool.
25:10
It was cool that Randy like reference things that have to do
25:13
with him. Like do you know what I mean?
25:14
I think it was really like the rest of mega podcast is huge for
25:17
Mark. His own his own figure line is
25:19
doing really well. Like without those things, he
25:23
wouldn't be back in the company, if that makes sense.
25:24
And I don't know if you know, but like when so when macadona
25:28
had his death match with Nick Gage and it trended over the
25:34
Olympics that night, like Randy sent him a text saying, wow, I
25:37
can't believe what you're doing type of thing.
25:39
Like just so like, like Randy's aware what's going on.
25:43
So Randy just again, like, you know, Randy could just beat him
25:47
up. But like Randy, you know, as I'm
25:48
going to see a few things I'm going to do with certain things
25:50
that I was going to at least make Matt look good even though
25:53
he's going to be down on the ground.
25:56
Do you? I don't know what they've said
25:57
storyline was because there's been no storyline off the back.
25:59
But like all the seeing his arms broken on the scene, they're not
26:01
sure. I think it's, I don't think
26:03
they've said anything yet, but I thought it was like good again,
26:07
because it kind of it wasn't just the backstage stuff to
26:09
finish the show on it. I thought I thought he needed it
26:12
because I don't know how much the crowd care about my Cardona
26:17
at the moment from kind of a mainstream point, you know what
26:19
I mean? As in like the kids because
26:21
they've changed his name from Zack Ryder, which would have got
26:23
a pop. So you lose the Zack Ryder pop.
26:25
So in a way he's kind of a new person in the broad main.
26:28
And then they hadn't really done anything with them.
26:30
So I think he needed something a bit prominent to get people
26:33
behind him again who who don't know he's got a figure podcast
26:37
who don't know he was the indie God.
26:38
So I think it's definitely a step in the right direction
26:41
because I think that's the thing he's been lacking, like the
26:43
general fan caring about them. I absolutely agree with that and
26:47
I'm glad it's happening because I said I care about them every
26:49
day of the week but general public don't and this is how you
26:53
do it. Do you think it leads to Randy
26:56
versus Macadon? A match in the build up Mania.
26:58
Yeah, I do. And I think that might be his
26:59
Wrestle Mania moment. Like, I don't know if you'll be
27:01
on the proper card, which, you know, sometimes you don't make
27:04
it. But I think if you can get a
27:05
match where even if it's, you know, 10 minutes where you get
27:08
some offense in and shows a bit of fighting spirit, I think
27:11
that's just as good as a Wrestle Mania match really being kind of
27:14
part of the build up to the WB title picture.
27:18
Indeed. Now you know, if we get a do, we
27:19
retitle Pitch out Mania and it's like there's some shenanigans
27:22
involved. Maybe there's a run in there
27:23
where he comes and helps Cory. You don't.
27:25
Yeah, you never know. Like I say, it's just it's good
27:26
that they're doing something instead of them just answering
27:29
US title challenges and being part of 10 man tag matches.
27:31
It's something for people to care about and get invested in.
27:34
Well, sadly, like Lily's been. Is it called Main Event?
27:38
This is local. He's been talking with Paul,
27:40
he's been attacking with Apollo Cruiser Main Event the past
27:42
couple of weeks. Yeah, it's not great.
27:43
Is this? So I'm hoping it leads them more
27:47
because everyone knows how much I love my card or what I hope we
27:48
all see. Next up is Punk Reigns and the
27:54
Bloodline. I'm loving how like the Tyne and
27:59
the Usos and it's like liner back together but like Romans
28:07
controlling them. But then Jius has gone a bit too
28:10
nuts and like, I think it's good.
28:14
I think next week they lose the title saying punk gets involved
28:16
and it's going to mean they're going to hit punk, but they're
28:19
going to start hitting Roman. It's very complex story, Tom.
28:21
They don't think it's. I think it's really cool.
28:22
Don't know what your thoughts on the whole punk enrollment thing.
28:25
Yeah, it was it was another positive which I kind of left.
28:28
I thought you would you would touch on it.
28:29
So I'm glad that you did. Yeah, I thought it was
28:31
excellent. I thought kind of it's the best
28:33
deal shows looked in ages. It kind of threw back to
28:36
probably why initially got that singles run because I remember
28:39
it was kind of he had this kind of unhingedness.
28:41
We didn't trust Sami's in. And he was constantly kind of
28:43
telling Roman he shouldn't touch Sam.
28:45
He's in. He was unhinged and he would go
28:47
against Roman and he kind of had that again where he was
28:49
uncontrollable and he looked dangerous.
28:51
So I thought that was really cool.
28:53
And I thought punk was excellent where like he was just in the
28:55
corner stirring the pot where like Roman was trying to tell
28:58
loosers what to do. And he was just like, yeah, you
29:00
do that. Like, yeah, yeah.
29:02
Are you sure you can handle it on your own and stuff?
29:04
And he was like laughing and like, you can tell he's just
29:06
like, it's, I think it was said a few Times Now.
29:08
Say it's mind games and put was he was having fun and like I
29:11
say, it was a good little segment and I agree with you
29:14
about I think they dropped the titles next week, which kind of
29:18
bled in one of my negatives because then it's kind of like
29:21
where do you go from there? So then you've got Theory and
29:24
Logan Paul is tag champs. Would you get a rematch with it?
29:28
Who shows at Mania wouldn't care if you did.
29:30
If you didn't, do they even defend the belts?
29:32
You feel like someone like Logan Paul is going to have a spot on
29:34
the card? So one of my negatives was just
29:37
that I think the tag title pictures a bit of a mess and I
29:40
don't think it'll be resolved cleanly.
29:42
And I think it's one of those belts that'll go badly or under
29:46
represented at Mania. I think it is a danger that
29:49
you're opposite, right? I think they're to use the belts
29:51
to serve this world title storyline, which is good and
29:55
it's going to enhance that, but then what that does is damages
29:57
its own storyline, if that makes sense.
29:59
Especially if you look, you've had like the Usos main event at
30:02
WrestleMania as tag team champions against Owens and
30:04
Zayn. So it's like, yeah, it could be
30:06
a big, big fall from grace if they don't even end up getting
30:09
defended. I mean, if Logan Paul's got it,
30:11
I feel like he does get on the card because it's Logan Paul.
30:13
But we'll see. I'm unsure at the moment and
30:16
it's a bit of a mess and a shame.
30:18
Is it just me as Logan Paul looking more and more jacked
30:20
like he looks $1,000,000? Well, you know why that is?
30:23
Pokémon cards mate. He gets what he wants.
30:25
He doesn't have to drive 50 minute round trips.
30:27
When often he sees it, he gets it.
30:30
I've heard he says he's not out of the shops or.
30:32
Probably do, he's probably got real life bots who just buy them
30:35
all up from. Yeah, probably.
30:39
And Speaking of big guys, my next positive, final positive is
30:44
the over family and Brock build. So I thought you had Brock come
30:48
out this time, sort of the call over family out.
30:50
He comes out, tries to get him in the F5.
30:53
He sort of wriggles out of it, clotheslines him over the ring
30:55
and Brox doesn't know what to do.
30:57
I think Brox's obviously selling for this guy.
31:00
Brock wants to build this guy, which thinks great.
31:03
I think they're doing a great job of like the original big
31:07
giant fast Beast is sort of going to take on the new Big
31:10
Giant fast Beast and and at the minute Brock can't catch a
31:16
break. Like Brock hasn't been able to
31:18
get the better of him yet. Now I think you will before
31:19
mania, but I think it's I think it was good.
31:23
It's good to build over. I mean where where over from?
31:25
He's had a few moments over him now and maybe they do a few more
31:27
as well before Bob Carney gets one over on him.
31:29
But I think it just goes to show that over family is something to
31:34
be reckoned with. I think if they've gone this
31:35
week and had Brock get the better of him, it would have
31:38
like killed it a little bit. So I'm glad they've gone like 2
31:40
for two. No, definitely.
31:42
And the crowd was still massively into it and they kind
31:45
of brought back something which I feel like I haven't seen for a
31:47
little while, where they showed it on Smackdown and Raw, they
31:50
did a tale of the tape and on a lot of those boxes, Oba Fermi is
31:54
bigger than Brock. So I thought it was a nice,
31:56
another little way of kind of pushing.
31:58
Oba Fermi is like this real threat where like side by side,
32:02
he's a little bit bigger, he's a little bit stronger.
32:04
I think it's only Brock who's got a bigger chest, if I
32:06
remember rightly. So I think even that just a
32:09
little tale of the tape again adds to that match and kind of
32:12
makes it look like the marquee of event match that it is.
32:16
Yeah, a bigger chest in the in longer arm reach is what I saw.
32:19
Yeah. But yeah, tall on heavy, I mean,
32:21
is over. I mean, yeah.
32:23
And I think it's going to allow Brock to be.
32:26
I enjoy Brock's car works. He's been like a mean beast.
32:29
And now when he got toes lined over, he saw that fantastically,
32:34
which he's only doing if he wants to because a man that big
32:36
when he moves when he wants to. And then the way he was like
32:39
looking like he wasn't looking shocked what he was looking
32:42
like. So he was questioning what had
32:43
happened. Now, obviously then he was
32:45
teasing get back in the ring and then came and was saying, no,
32:48
don't get back in the ring. Don't worry, we'll go back this
32:49
way. And I think it's like Brock baby
32:52
going like full heel, like to beat this guy, which I think why
32:55
not? Yeah, that'll be quite a cool
32:58
little spot movies if Brock realizes he has to cheat, like
33:01
he kind of gives him his best and it's not enough.
33:02
So yeah, like I said, it's I'd say it's at the minute, the
33:05
matches I'm most looking forward to at there will be Punk, Roman,
33:08
then Brock Olber and then Randy Cody.
33:11
At the minute they'll be kind of top three.
33:13
So now they're doing a really good job, especially considering
33:15
this match only got made official in the real build only
33:18
started a week ago, well, week and a half ago now.
33:20
So yeah, they're doing a really good job so far, no.
33:23
Well, they really are and I'm excited to see these two big
33:25
meat machines. Got it.
33:26
It's going to be fantastic negative.
33:30
So I'm going to go straight and one of mine, if that's all
33:32
right, bud. And what I'm going to say is
33:34
like, what is going on with Seth Rollins?
33:36
I don't understand the storyline.
33:38
Like, so the main thing is that he's Seth Rollins.
33:42
He's got the mass gang who are his students.
33:45
But then now he's just coming out and trying to feed a poor
33:47
him. But now he's getting arrested
33:49
because Paul Heyman's got a a W arrest warrant out for him.
33:53
Like like what is going on? Yeah, I feel like Rollins for me
33:58
as someone who I think is possibly kind of one of the
34:00
greatest in ring, in ring performers of all time.
34:04
But then on the other side of the coin, I don't think they've
34:07
ever properly found a gimmick where he's gotten massively
34:11
over. So is it's always as in ring
34:13
work that carries them. And I think a lot of the times
34:16
with stuff that they've tried, I think they try to make them this
34:19
bit of a badass. But then I also think in real
34:22
life, he's a bit of a nerd, and you can see that a lot.
34:24
And that's not a problem, you know, But I just don't believe
34:28
them because, you know, getting dragged out by security running
34:31
around, you know, you can have flashbacks of like a Stone Cold
34:34
Steve Austin type and Seth Rollins isn't that.
34:37
And then he's still doing the bit, the amount, you know, when
34:39
I or laughing. And I think it's always just
34:41
being yeah, like he's never properly found a gimmick that's
34:45
stuck. So I just I just I don't I've
34:47
never really cared about him as a character.
34:49
Like I say in ring, some of the greatest stuff you've ever seen
34:52
like this. Those are matches I can point
34:54
you for Seth Rollins. But yeah, the character works
34:56
just I've always found lacking. And I think that's massively
35:00
evident here, especially with them pushing them is I think
35:02
again, but yeah, getting dragged out by police and stuff.
35:04
He's a bit of a kind of loose wire, but I still don't fully
35:07
know what they're even trying to position them as.
35:08
So yeah, it's just a mess. Honestly, if you're trying to be
35:12
that loose wire type of character, like they've already
35:14
had that with Brian Pillman, who did it better.
35:16
So if you're going to do it again, you need to match that
35:18
type of intensity and that type of insanity and like, do you
35:22
know what I mean? And he's not.
35:24
So yeah. And I was thinking, what's he
35:27
doing to me and how do you think?
35:29
Well, like I said last week, I think, and again, so if I've
35:31
read this week, I think they're still hopeful that Brombriga is
35:34
going to get cleared. So I guess even if it's the week
35:37
before, you just have him and fucking look like he's going to
35:39
get took out again. Breakout comes out from nowhere.
35:41
The match is kind of made there and then.
35:44
But then I also think there's a thing where you might not be a
35:46
Mania card like in a match. So I think, I think they're
35:49
booing this week on week at the minute.
35:52
Just to give everyone enough time to try and get back.
35:54
Yeah. To be fair, because the rest of
35:57
the show is so stacked, like the rest of stories are really cool
35:59
I think, or most of them are, as I've talked about in the
36:01
positive. So maybe you can't afford to
36:03
have one goal this way. That makes sense.
36:06
If it builds through a good match, the bill doesn't really
36:08
matter, but. No, no, definitely like the card
36:11
doesn't so far he doesn't have a match and that's not me like
36:13
trying to say shit. But yeah, there's enough on the
36:15
card where the card doesn't miss Rollins and if they can get them
36:18
on a match against break, I'd imagine it will be a good match.
36:20
So and there is a story there, but yeah, I don't know and I
36:23
don't think they do. And purely because of things
36:26
like injury. I think it's just a week and
36:28
week at the minute with our storyline.
36:31
Then my next negative is I hate to shit on it because it's just
36:36
the third week in a row. I think it's my one of my
36:37
negative sport like Jade Cargill and we are Ripley and now me.
36:42
I am in the other one of like who jaded, Yeah, really hurt and
36:49
went against. They have now sided with her to
36:51
take out rehab and like, but they came out as if they were
36:54
going to attack Jade and the two on our side in what just came
36:59
off as like really weird. And it didn't come off as a
37:01
shock. It just came off as really weird
37:02
and like this is shit. That's what I thought I was
37:05
watching it. So I nearly put this as a
37:08
positive, but this is just for my wishful long term thinking.
37:12
So because I think the original plan was Jade versus Bianca, I
37:17
don't think Ria wins and I think they need to keep pushing Jade a
37:20
bit more for the experiment. But why I nearly put as a
37:24
positive for wishful thinking is that if they've aligned them
37:26
aligned, which they have with B Fab and Mia yen, is this mean
37:31
that after Mania will finally get a Chelsea green face turn
37:34
and we get the cabinet versus Jade Cargill's gang?
37:37
There's the potential for that. But it was a very loose
37:39
positive, more based on wishful thinking that where do you go
37:42
after WrestleMania with Jade in a faction.
37:45
I think if that happens, then maybe running as it just as it
37:50
is, it's a negative for me. It's just, yeah.
37:52
Oh yeah, it's very loose and I say mine's more just fantasy
37:55
book and but at least they've tried something different.
37:58
But yeah, I think I think it's been a bad build.
38:01
I think Jade keeps the belt and I just I don't care which I
38:04
think as worth. I think that's the third week in
38:05
a row I've said that about this. I.
38:07
Just don't know why this week just have Jade and Ria go head
38:10
to head braid each other all over like put each other through
38:13
ringside tables, get dragged apart by officials, stop
38:17
brawling again like just it's simple but it works like build
38:20
that heat like in them just wanting to destroy each other
38:23
and it causing chaos. Not 100%, yeah.
38:26
I don't know why you wouldn't do that.
38:28
And then you could do the old school where then after that the
38:30
German answers are all right. He's now, he killed each other
38:32
last week. So now there's a now there's a
38:34
no touch clause. And if one of these touches that
38:37
ones the match is off and then you have then you can have them
38:39
go on each other for the next few weeks that you could do
38:41
something like that. It's been done before, right.
38:44
Like, But yeah, we will see. I think that's my 3.
38:49
Have you got any negatives, Luke?
38:51
No, I have got some, but I think we've touched on enough and they
38:53
were just minor negatives because like overall I think
38:55
it's been a pretty positive week for no pay per views or anything
38:57
like that. I think everything is building
38:58
nicely. My bonus positive was we have we
39:03
had I show speed on raw this week.
39:05
And. It was cool to see him
39:07
interacting with a ride, a wide range of people and sort of
39:11
giving everybody his little bit of robe, so I enjoyed seeing him
39:15
do that. Yeah, actually flight because I
39:17
didn't know much about him at all because I don't do the whole
39:20
Youtubers thing. So obviously my proper
39:22
introduction to him was I'm getting taken out in the rumble,
39:24
which was fucking impressive. But then like he's really young
39:28
and like he's got a huge following and he's someone where
39:30
like when I see him do stuff, he's always fully invested in
39:33
it. So yeah, fair play at home like
39:35
yeah, and he got cursed off Dan housing as well, which we always
39:37
love. So no, was it was he's another
39:38
one who every time he's been brought in, which hasn't been
39:41
that much, he's always added as opposed to kind of being a sore
39:47
thumb. He.
39:49
Is indeed. I think that brings an end to
39:51
the week in review. Luke, Are you ready for a moment
39:54
in time? I am.
39:56
So a moment in time, for those who don't know, it's a wrestling
39:58
match or a moment or an event that's either great or just
40:03
interesting for some reason that's worth looking back on and
40:07
us giving a bit of context and a bit of commentary too.
40:09
We try to steer away from the big moments everyone knows, for
40:11
example, Rock, Austin, Hogan, Andre.
40:16
Michaels, Bret Hart, those type of things.
40:20
And yeah, this week it's a wrestling match.
40:23
It has been a wrestling match every week so far.
40:25
And this time I chose Rey Mysterio versus Cody Rhodes from
40:30
Extreme Rules 2011. Now, the reason why I chose this
40:34
match is because it's two superstars who, you know, Ray's
40:38
probably come to the end of his career now in WE.
40:40
He's probably got a year left, I'd imagine.
40:42
Obviously Cody, Cody's at the very top of his game right now,
40:44
but you know, it's probably 1 contract away from retiring.
40:47
His next contract might be his last.
40:49
And this is these guys in the middle of the card.
40:52
It's a very quick match on a pretty jacked card, but the sort
40:56
of they get, they make the most use.
40:58
It's only 11 minutes a match we want to talk about and I feel
41:01
they really got a lot of good time in here, some good
41:03
character work as well from Cody and I think they do a lot with
41:06
the 11 minutes at the get and that's why I hired it.
41:08
So do you want to know what the card was, Luke?
41:12
I mean, yeah, I've, I've, I've watched the full card actually
41:14
because I had a, it's been a funny week at work.
41:16
But yeah, but yeah, go through it because again, it is a
41:18
stacked card. So on to the dark match just out
41:22
of curiosity with Sin Cara versus Tyson Kidd and a singles
41:25
match. Then we go into the main
41:26
broadcast. We had Randy Orton versus C and
41:28
Punk in a last man standing match and the New Nexus banned
41:32
from ringsides with Soju now era Randy defeats Punk.
41:35
We have Kofi Kingston versus Seamus.
41:37
That is a tables match for the United States Championship.
41:41
Then have Michael Cole and Jack Swagger.
41:43
They defeat Jerry Lowell and Jim Ross in a country whipping
41:46
match. Five star, I would imagine.
41:48
Yeah, the match #5 is the match we're going to review.
41:51
We then have Leila who defeated Michelle Mccool via pinfall.
41:54
It was a no disqualification, no count out, loser leaves WWE
41:58
match. So that is the end of Michelle
42:00
Mccool. Christine defeated Alberto Del
42:03
Rio in a ladder match for the World Heavyweight Championship.
42:06
Which we've talked about. Indeed, just last week, Big Sean
42:09
Kane, they defeated the core which was Wade Barrett and Big
42:12
Zeke Ezekiel Jackson by pinfall. That was a lumberjack match for
42:16
the WWE Tag Team Championship. And in the main event big match,
42:19
John defeats the Maze and John Morrison in a triple threat
42:24
steel cage match for the WWE Championship and he wins via
42:28
pinfall even though it's a cage match.
42:29
Pretty cool. Can you remember what happens
42:33
after the cage match? I cannot.
42:34
I didn't. I didn't watch the whole bit of
42:36
you ever. So I've had a different kind of
42:37
week than you at work. So it's Wendy.
42:39
Yeah. It's when the match finishes and
42:42
Sina gets on the mic and tells America that we got him.
42:45
It's the night they got Osama bin Laden, and Sina announces it
42:48
to the crowd after the match. Always the first man to tell the
42:50
world, wasn't he? Yeah, he was, and I always
42:53
remember that really well because they're one of our
42:54
friends who I think listens to the show.
42:56
Damien PS had been at his house watching it and we'd been out
42:59
before and I was quite drunk. And then I remember watching
43:02
that and then walking home and just like going through Twitter
43:04
of all the people, like just very excited that John Cena told
43:07
the world that they had got him. Wrestling, it truly has
43:11
transcend every single thing in the world, isn't it?
43:16
Massively, Yeah. Especially when it comes to
43:17
patriotism. It was.
43:18
It was very like, it was. Yeah.
43:20
It's so American. Like, you could like they say,
43:22
like one of the first people to announce that on a live
43:24
broadcast was John Cena after winning his title bat in a cage
43:27
match. Like, that's it.
43:28
Yeah. America.
43:31
Definitely. So I think when you look at all
43:34
Match watch #5 Remus 0 versus Cory Rhodes, you know there's a
43:37
lot of big names on this big matches against you.
43:39
Obviously it's extreme rules, period.
43:41
So every match has like an extreme stipulation.
43:44
This one's false count anywhere. The storyline is that Ramis, so
43:49
Cody Rhodes was the dashing Cody Rhodes.
43:52
And then what's happened is Ramis Studio was given the 619
43:55
and his knee brace is caught Cody's face and Cody's now
43:57
disfigured and he's wearing a big mask to protect his face.
44:00
Even though the joke is Cody's face is absolutely fine.
44:04
But he's really sad in this. And I remember this time and
44:08
thinking at the beginning, thinking this is shit.
44:12
And then, like, Cody gets it over, gets the gimmick over.
44:16
You know, the way he sells, being this figure, the way he
44:18
talks about it, the way he has, he wears the mask and the hood
44:22
and the way he deals with that. He has the bag men who hand out
44:25
the bags, people in the front row.
44:26
And he got over at a point where people wanted the bags to wear,
44:29
which tells everything, you know, that this did get over,
44:31
which is really cool. What do you remember about this
44:35
time period about Cody Owens and Rey Mysterio?
44:38
So I remember the Cody Moore because again, it sounds like,
44:41
you know, smart after the event, but like you said, like I always
44:44
remember like really getting into Cody Rhodes after legacy
44:47
because like everything they give him should have been shit.
44:50
But he got over like the dash and Cody Rhodes stuff was over.
44:53
Like he did also had a match at WrestleMania.
44:56
So he'd got this shit gimmick over with a mustache to a point
44:58
where he's having a WrestleMania match with Rey Mysterio.
45:00
He then has the disfigured stuff where then, like as you've said,
45:03
gets over people in the crowd, even brings Ted Dibiase back, is
45:06
like his bagman for a little run as well, gets that over.
45:10
And I think you can argue that he also to as much as he can get
45:13
Stardust over. So I think it's kind of I was
45:16
always thinking like, yeah, there is definitely something
45:18
there. So when he did get his release,
45:20
it was like, oh, that's that's a massive wasted opportunity
45:23
really. But he proved everyone wrong.
45:25
So yeah, I always remember that period thinking like they've got
45:28
something there with Cody, like, absolutely.
45:30
And I was right. I was right.
45:35
So this match is literally like under 12 minutes and I think
45:39
it's a no, it's a false card anywhere match that like starts
45:43
in the ring. They go outside the ring, they
45:46
go up to the stage, they come off the stage, they go into the
45:50
crowd, they go up the stairs in the crowd, they go out into the
45:54
concourse, they come back down the stairs and they end in the
45:56
ring for like under 12 minutes. It's 11 minutes, 43.
46:01
Like they give us like everything you could want in
46:03
that time, no. 100% it's kind of in and out, isn't it?
46:09
But you get everything you you need.
46:10
The it's one of those ones where sometimes in a stipulation
46:13
match, they don't use the stipulation, but in that false
46:15
count anywhere mash, they literally went everywhere.
46:17
So they kind of got the most out of the time that they had.
46:20
And they went everywhere in the such as because it's probably
46:22
one of the like the least memorable, not least memorable.
46:26
Like it's probably one of the ones given the least build in
46:28
the card, like all the last looks like quite big, but I feel
46:32
they know where they are the normal time they've got and they
46:34
deliver something different that really uses the stipulation.
46:36
Yes, like I said. So as I said, I'll take you for
46:39
a bit. So Cody has his gimmick where he
46:43
is sort of the disfigured Cory Rhodes starts off.
46:46
He comes out in the ring, he has the bag of been handing out the
46:48
bags. Really cool match starts off.
46:52
It's a pretty good back and forth from the ring, ends up on
46:53
the outside as a big drop kick, which is pretty vicious.
46:57
They end up on the stage. Raiders are awesome seated, sent
47:01
on off the stage on a Cory. They end up sort of in the crowd
47:07
on the railings. There's an awesome clothesline
47:09
on one of the railings and there's also a drop toe hold
47:12
that leads to another like awesome back and forth, like
47:16
pretty vicious stuff. There's also a bit we have the
47:18
halfway up the stairs in the crowd and Cory's got rain like a
47:23
Boston crab, but like rays through the railing.
47:28
Absolutely. Like just fantastic imagery and
47:31
vicious imagery. They're going to the concourse.
47:34
So I watched this with at me mum's house, Luke, me mum
47:39
watched it with us. So I don't think she's really
47:41
paying much attention. But there's a bit on the
47:43
concourse where where Ray hits Cory in the back with some of
47:47
the bin that they knock over. My mum like burst out laughing.
47:51
She thought I was absolutely hilarious and brilliant and she
47:53
was like, he really deserved that.
47:54
That little masked man is doing doing a good job and she's
47:57
laughing her head off. It's funny that she thought he
48:00
was the bad guy because he wore mask.
48:02
Yeah. Those are those a bit in that
48:04
way, but the first get out as well in real I kind of spearism,
48:09
but it looks like the type of spear you would do in like a
48:11
real fight and Cody kind of hits the deck and I thought that was
48:14
really cool. I had a real fight feel to it.
48:17
No, it certainly did. So the born in the concourse is
48:20
awesome. Cody like jumps off like putting
48:23
us up would be called the disaster kick now but he hits
48:25
real with his kick and like rear hits the concrete pretty hard
48:28
his head. Smacks I made a point of that
48:31
well underlined like yeah, he does that disaster kick and rear
48:33
head doesn't off hit the back of that hit the foot in concrete.
48:36
And that is like, that is the normal concourse where people
48:38
eating drinks that is concrete. Yeah, he's no way of changing
48:41
that. There's game, like I said, the
48:45
spot spot with the bar where rear sort of jumps on top of the
48:48
ball and dives off the top and then all over it.
48:53
How rear teases a spot as they're about to go like on the
49:00
stairs. He's about to run and jump on
49:01
him, but then Cody moves too far down.
49:03
There's a couple of things that really teases about to do
49:05
something, but Cody gets away just in time.
49:10
There's an absolutely fantastic looking hip toss over the over
49:15
the barricade in the back into the ring area that Cody gives to
49:19
Ray, which is absolutely classed them brawl in the game, which is
49:21
fantastic. And yeah, there's a there's a
49:26
head first stair spot, which was fantastic.
49:31
Again, they get back in the ring as a missile head, but raise
49:33
missile head. But off the top is like, I
49:36
haven't seen him do that before. To be fair, even even the
49:38
Carpentino caught off guard by the missile head.
49:40
But. Yeah, I put it as a spinning
49:44
diving head, but I'm at the same point that like, I don't think
49:46
I've ever really seen Ray do that again or anyone else.
49:48
Yeah, it was a cool little spinning.
49:49
I say I've put it as a spinning diving head, but.
49:52
Very cool. Then see sort of Cody's raise on
49:55
the ropes hanging on and Cody's picking him by his legs and he's
49:57
like kicking him and athletes, he's kicking him in the stomach.
50:00
But then like it's Booker team company says oh, he's like
50:04
giving 2 low blows there. So obviously it's a notice
50:07
qualification match that's allowed Cody and hits him with
50:09
the Alabama Assam Classic paying homage to his old friend and
50:13
mentor Bob Holley. Then leads to like an awesome
50:17
spot where Ray is on the Turnbull, Cordy's gone up and
50:21
then he's closely not back down. Ray hits him with the grey mist
50:24
and then he's able to hit Cory with a 619 and he hits him with
50:29
it's like a springboard splash isn't it off the off the top?
50:32
The old series. It's the 123, Ray wins.
50:39
Anything I've missed that you want to talk about in regards to
50:41
the match, Luke? No, I say like the big ones.
50:43
Like for me was like the cool, the disaster kick, the spinning
50:47
head, but that we've talked about and kind of like that rear
50:50
dive sent on off the the ramp at the start because he doesn't
50:53
half get some distance on that. And because it's really it looks
50:56
like he lands it perfectly light with his legs, his knees all
50:58
intact. So now it's like that.
51:00
I think you've kind of hit off all the important points in that
51:02
match well. It certainly isn't it.
51:05
So this is like the wrap up match.
51:06
So this is like the end of the feud.
51:07
So obviously the feud started when Rear broke Cody's nose for
51:10
the 619 and sort of it ends. It ends here with this.
51:15
I loved how there was like little to no weapon usage.
51:17
Obviously I've talked about the bin that your mum found funny,
51:20
but the match takes full advantage of the stipulations.
51:22
Literal meaning the encounter goes everywhere through the
51:26
cloud ringside of the stage. Any way they could think of in
51:29
that time frame that did I think go ahead bud.
51:36
No, I was going to say, I think it's like kind of already
51:38
touched on it a bit, but it's the kind of match where like if
51:39
you were shown someone kind of learning the business, wanting
51:42
to be a restless, like this is how you get everything in in
51:45
this type of match. Like it's everything's in that
51:48
it can be in 12 minutes, but none of it feels rushed.
51:50
It's kind of like making the most of your time.
51:52
I think it's a really good match for two guys who are very, very
51:55
good at what they do. Making the most of the time on,
51:57
as we've said, like a super stacked card where you've
52:00
already had last month standard matches and table matches.
52:02
They're still able to go out there and make a point.
52:05
And then the only other thing I wanted a point was slightly
52:07
negative of it, which is no, isn't their fault is that when
52:10
they've been up in the concourse and the comeback out, I think
52:13
the crowds a bit flat. And that's I think one of the
52:16
risks isn't it when you have a match that goes backstage for
52:18
the live audience. But the then both good enough
52:21
where you get them back by the end.
52:23
But did you notice that when they kind of first come back
52:25
through, the crowd was a bit like, well, because half of them
52:27
probably haven't been able to watch it properly?
52:28
I did notice, I don't know exactly why, because Mama
52:32
Christine, when she was watching it, when the first came through
52:34
onto the concourse before the bin excitement.
52:38
Mama Christine wasn't happy, she said.
52:42
What they've gone into there, they can't even see in the
52:44
arena. If I was there, I'd be demanding
52:47
my money back right now. Well, there you go.
52:50
So I think that's one of the risks you take with that match,
52:52
with watching from home, Fine. But yeah, I think it's an
52:55
interesting moment when you have matches go backstage for long
52:57
segments. I mean, I didn't say there's
52:59
lots of other matches, ma'am, don't worry.
53:00
But obviously we only watched the 1:00 because we did skip to
53:03
the match. But so she they, they, they, I'm
53:05
not saying they wanted the money back, but I think they were the
53:08
same like, oh, like what's going on?
53:09
And I imagine they maybe screened it on the screens and
53:11
arena, but we'd been assures it's not the same as having it
53:14
on in the ring in front of you. No, it's not.
53:17
And I think one last thing for me is just obviously Ray had to
53:21
dig deeply, obviously use the mist, which is for me a little
53:23
bit cheating for the good guy. But obviously Cody had cheated
53:27
at WrestleMania when Cody had beat Ray, I think when he hit
53:30
him with a knee brace. So this was a bit like Ray
53:33
getting his revenge, Ray getting his wing back and he said he's
53:36
had to dig deep and he's had to pay homage to the great meat
53:39
back with a bit of mist. Is that the only time Ray's used
53:41
the mist? I think it is, isn't it?
53:43
Yeah, I think so. He's wore great mood inspired
53:45
mask before, so there's obviously, definitely, obviously
53:47
the WCW connections, things like that.
53:49
But yeah, I think that's the only time I can remember I'm
53:52
doing it because obviously seen this match a long time ago and I
53:55
had no memory of him doing it. So for as far as I know, I think
53:57
that's the only time he's done that.
54:00
Yeah, I think just a great match of picks.
54:02
I think obviously I think, as I said, I think Rey Mysterio is
54:03
probably going to finish up in the next year and Cody's
54:06
probably got five years that may be at the top.
54:08
And I think you can see Cody here where he's like learning
54:12
these chops and doing really well working people like Ray,
54:15
you know, he's learning from the best in there.
54:16
Obviously, Cody would later going to ask for his recent
54:19
wrestle all over the world, then come back and then be sort of
54:21
the biggest BB face the company's had in a long, long
54:23
time. Hoganesque, you could say.
54:27
And yeah, I thought it was just good to look at.
54:30
Look at that. It's funny because it was on me,
54:32
sis, that was there as well. She wasn't really paying
54:33
attention, but she was like, oh, like, what year is this, Pete?
54:35
And I was like, oh, it's like 2011.
54:37
She was like, oh, because like she's familiar with who Cody
54:39
Rhodes is now. And she's like, all right, she
54:40
didn't say it, but she tells me. I'm actually thinking, oh, like,
54:42
that is Cody. But that's like, but it's not,
54:44
it's not the Cody we have right now.
54:46
It's like, no, it's very far from her.
54:49
I'm trying to think of all the gimmicks that Cody got over that
54:51
Finn's given. So he got over being dashing.
54:54
He got over being this Cory Rhodes, which is like the
54:57
distorted Cory Rhodes. He was Stardust.
55:00
Which I do think he got over as far as I could get over.
55:03
He got all of them over as far as he could.
55:05
That's why that's what I like about him.
55:06
That's why when he asked for his release and he got himself over
55:09
our way and he's come back, I like how he's come back and
55:11
never said you just be you. You be the you be what you've
55:14
built outside the company. But yeah, I think that brings an
55:20
end to a moment in time. You've got any other thoughts or
55:22
questions on it? No, I said I think it was a good
55:24
fun pick and like I said with them both, you know, kind of
55:27
being close at the end of the careers and they are now and
55:29
it's it was 2011, so that was 16 years ago that match.
55:32
It's quite interesting to see that card really, because I say
55:35
it's funny because you're 16 years ago on that card, you've
55:38
got Punk versus Orton opening the show in the last month
55:41
standing match and they're probably both going to close the
55:44
consecutive nights at WrestleMania.
55:45
So it's cool to see the stay in power of some of the people on
55:48
that card, including your Codys and your ears.
55:52
Certainly is and then you think about, you know, Christian
55:54
defeated Albert, whatever he obviously Christian probably
55:56
probably got attacked in title match in the AW Alberto Del Rio
55:59
as he was chatting about him previously.
56:01
He's one of our curse by wrestling gods.
56:03
We're also talking about how technically is he still signed a
56:06
AAA. We're doing all we think he
56:07
might be like he could still feature for the company going
56:11
forward. And obviously amazing the main
56:13
event of that card. He'll be on the WrestleMania
56:15
card, no doubt, with our good friend Dan Hausen.
56:17
So yeah, like I say, it's like there's a lot of guys on there
56:21
who've stood the test of time. Certainly is, I think.
56:25
So our next segment, and that is did they really say that?
56:28
That is where we look back at a quote from the past or could be
56:33
from from this week. It's a quote or something
56:36
somebody said. It could be from like a
56:37
backstage interview. It could be from an
56:38
autobiography, a magazine article.
56:40
It could be a talk show, could be something they've said on
56:42
social media, could be from an interview.
56:47
And yeah, I think you've got this week's.
56:49
Did they really see that, Luke? Yeah, so I think I've gone for
56:51
what I think it's a funny 1. So it's a tweet by Chris
56:54
Jericho. It was tweeted on one of the
56:56
anniversaries of September 11th, and this is the tweet.
57:00
Can you imagine terrorists trying to hijack a plane that
57:03
the WWE crew was on? Box cutters versus the craziest
57:07
Morphos on the planet. Game over, Jihad.
57:12
It's not a real tweet. It is a real tweet.
57:14
So my question you from that is not did he really say that is
57:18
who would win on that flight? Professional wrestling, damn it.
57:23
Damn right. I just love that it's it's it's
57:26
about that quote. Is that like, I think he's been
57:30
serious, isn't he? Like it's worded quite funnily,
57:33
but I think there's definitely a seriousness to it that like like
57:36
that, that shows a bit of a lack of self-awareness.
57:38
What do you think? I think it's a bit of lack of
57:41
self-awareness, but also I think like if that's all I had was box
57:44
cut, I think the rest of us would fancy the chances.
57:46
Yeah, I think, but did that. Is that what they had on 9/11?
57:49
This is getting a bit dark. Was that why he said box
57:51
cutters? Is that what they did?
57:53
I don't know that's what they had, but that's what he's
57:54
seeing. The hard.
57:55
Yeah. So he he thinks that's what they
57:57
had, not why he's seeing. We were in.
57:59
I mean, if you've watched the dog side the ring about the pain
58:01
right from hell, would the jihadi survive that?
58:05
I was just going to say because that that's what they made us
58:07
think of the plane ride from hell where there is kind of an
58:09
example of wrestlers gone wild on a plane.
58:11
So I would like the wrestlers to be pissed up when they're taking
58:14
on the terrorists as well. So, I mean, and some of the
58:18
wrestlers will be useless because like Scott Halls asleep
58:19
the whole fight, right? But Mr. Perfect in there.
58:22
But Lesnar, they're destroying each other and could probably
58:24
destroy any terrorists who can hear them.
58:27
Maybe. No, that is the thing.
58:29
Imagine being on a flight with, like, an undertaker, a big show,
58:32
Brock Lesnar, and you didn't realize that.
58:33
So that was the flight you were going to decide to do this.
58:35
Odd. So yeah, I like it because it's
58:36
such a, you know, harrowing, one of the worst events in human
58:39
history. And then, like, Jerrett was
58:41
like, yeah. But imagine, though, as if it's
58:43
like some, like, throwaway sketch on Family Guy.
58:46
That's what it feels like when they have little cutaway
58:47
sketches on Family Guy. That's what that feels like.
58:49
Could work nicely on. What certainly isn't Hey I hope
58:53
none of them terrorists women. Otherwise Ric Flair could have
58:55
been being very naughty with them.
58:56
If you watch the documentary. Like you could imagine if Vince
58:59
was on the planet all kicking off, he's going to like fucking
59:02
John Laurenite as I thought were released.
59:03
Muhammad Hassan. Yes.
59:06
Why is he back for? I thought he was released years
59:10
ago just like just together be I'd imagine be a lot of
59:13
inappropriate comments made if that got tried on a flight full
59:15
of wrestlers. No, certainly would.
59:18
That's a very, very good one for this week.
59:21
Did they really say that? And I'm surprised he I'm
59:24
surprised that like, I mean, from that anybody would.
59:27
But a celebrity of like Jericho's stature would go near
59:31
911 as a tweet even as like a sort of he's not making fun of
59:36
9/11, right? He's just making fun of
59:37
wrestlers and how they would react with terrorists, right?
59:40
That's the joke. That's that's fine, you know.
59:42
It's borderline, isn't it? I think it's why you can.
59:44
Do that because the media saw like piss you everything that
59:47
they would just RIP it apart. No, 100% I think it's on the
59:51
butt and any any further with this I think it would have like
59:54
caused a bit more of a controversy, but it's borderline
59:56
just just enough humour in it with a bit of real life.
59:59
Who makes you think that he just gets away with that?
1:00:03
1 I think. Indeed, should we move on to our
1:00:07
next segment? Yes, I've been on forward to
1:00:10
this one this week. Pick one of my all time niche
1:00:13
favourites. So this is cursed by the
1:00:16
wrestling gods. It is a gimmick or a person, a
1:00:18
career could be an event. So far it's been people, just
1:00:23
somebody who maybe didn't quite hit the highs that they could
1:00:26
have done. It didn't quite work out for
1:00:28
them due to sort of on some unforeseen circumstances or
1:00:31
whatever happening. We'll sort of digest that.
1:00:34
Who is it this week? So I've got an actually one of
1:00:36
my all time niche favorites, the Lethal Weapon, Steve Blackman.
1:00:41
Oh, Lethal Weapon. Yeah, so as well, let's start
1:00:43
this. Obviously, I've kind of took the
1:00:44
lead on this one. So when I say Steve Blackman to
1:00:46
you, then, what's your kind of initial thoughts, memories of
1:00:49
the Lethal Weapon? I remember, I remember thinking
1:00:54
him was like, I don't know why when I first seen him was like a
1:00:59
like a shit Ken Shamrock. I know he's not Ken Shamrock.
1:01:01
He's very different. But I remember being like, yeah,
1:01:04
he's meant to be this like this like, well, this lethal weapon,
1:01:07
right? I mean, he's gonna be dangerous,
1:01:09
but like, but is he like Ken Chavrock was like lethal
1:01:15
unhinged, right? And I always thought that was
1:01:18
like the type of character. I know he doesn't look like him,
1:01:20
but that was the type of like that was type of feel we're
1:01:22
trying to get with him. But no, he never really stuck
1:01:25
with me. Yeah, you kind of you're kind of
1:01:27
on the right lines with him. So yeah, I mean, obviously going
1:01:30
over kind of pot history of his career.
1:01:32
So Steve started as a bodybuilder and weightlifter.
1:01:35
He was a guy who was always in good shape.
1:01:37
When he kind of moved away from that and got into wrestling, he
1:01:40
was working for Stew Heart down in Stampede, good friends with
1:01:43
Owen Heart and Brian Pillman. So he's working that territory.
1:01:46
So that was in the 80s. Did a couple of tours with New
1:01:49
Japan in the late 80s as well, then in 1988.
1:01:53
So this is because did you know realize he was wrestling in
1:01:55
1988? No, I did not.
1:01:58
Yeah, so he's wrestling kind of, you know, big, big institutions,
1:02:00
Stampede, New Japan, He wrestles a handful of dart matches for
1:02:03
the WWE. They're going to offer him a
1:02:06
contract. He's committed to a tour in
1:02:08
South Africa. Vince loved that.
1:02:10
He was like, yeah, for fairly commitments, then come and sign
1:02:13
with us. In 1988, when he was doing that
1:02:15
tour in South Africa, he contracted malaria in dysentery.
1:02:20
He was then bedridden for two years, lost most of his muscle
1:02:24
mass, and then spent another four years in physical therapy
1:02:28
getting himself ready. So in 1988 he was on the cusp of
1:02:31
being given AWWF contract at the time.
1:02:35
In any contracts that contacts is awful disease that nearly
1:02:37
kills them and essentially loses everything.
1:02:42
I did not know that. That is wild.
1:02:44
I mean hot off to him, you know, he come back and did Simon the
1:02:48
do we read? I mean did have a career there
1:02:49
which is fantastic. Yeah, so even that's kind of
1:02:52
like, cool. So he'd obviously was like he'd
1:02:54
lost all his muscle mass. So he literally just started
1:02:56
going to gym for 10 minutes, and then after a week or two, he
1:03:00
could do 15 minutes and he just literally built himself back up
1:03:03
from the ground up. And he thought like, oh, it's a
1:03:05
shame that that went to waste. So obviously he was friends with
1:03:08
the one who's friends with Brian Pillman.
1:03:10
And it was Jim Cornett who has potentially more or less gotten
1:03:13
signs. We reached out to all of them.
1:03:14
Cornett was like, I'm filming something here.
1:03:17
Come down. I'll fill him a tape with your
1:03:18
cornet, films it. And then in 97, he gets that
1:03:21
contract with WWF. So November 3rd, 97, he debuts
1:03:26
by jumping the guardrail to help Vader fend off the Heart
1:03:29
Foundation. He's kind of picked as this fan
1:03:31
who's kind of come in the Patriot gets injured that week.
1:03:34
So he's then put straight into a Survivor Series match and he's
1:03:37
renamed the Lethal Weapon where he's kind of wearing all the
1:03:39
karate gear. He went undefeated for a year
1:03:43
after his debut, where in that time he feuded with the Nation
1:03:46
and got clean wins over Farooq and The Rock.
1:03:51
Wow. Yeah.
1:03:52
And Oh yeah. And like his undefeated streak
1:03:54
ends by losing the Jeff Jarrett early 98.
1:03:57
He's feuding with the nation again.
1:03:59
This is where kind of your memory maybe comes in with it.
1:04:02
So he then starts a short lived tag team with Shamrock.
1:04:07
Right. OK, this is.
1:04:10
Yeah, that fizzles out and then he's one of the participants in
1:04:13
the kind of very ill-fated Fall Brawl.
1:04:16
So what's your memories of Four Brawl?
1:04:18
Because there's a brilliant episode of Dark Side the Ring on
1:04:20
it. It's an absolute mess.
1:04:21
Can can you remember kind of brief description of what 4
1:04:24
Brawl is? Yeah.
1:04:25
So obviously, well, it's the end of bot gun rights.
1:04:27
So it is essentially the for some reason the they were going
1:04:33
to present this legitimate boxing tournament, which they
1:04:38
then still could represent it as that, but then they still could
1:04:40
have worked it to it was all the work, but they didn't thought
1:04:43
gonna ends up knocking out the favorite who's meant to win
1:04:45
because of the middle legitimate and the whole thing that's the
1:04:48
reeled. 100% So this is the thing.
1:04:52
So that puts Steve Blackman in it.
1:04:53
Blackman's taught about it where he said like he gets told
1:04:56
they're going to do it and he's like, well no, you're not Like
1:04:59
that's not actually what's going to be turns up.
1:05:02
It is what it is. He wins his first match no
1:05:04
problem. He then tosses tears his
1:05:07
cartilage so he's taken out with the full brawl.
1:05:09
And a lot of people have kind of gone on record the likes of your
1:05:13
take as your JBLS, your hardcore Hollies who have said like Steve
1:05:18
Blackman is legitimately hard as fuck.
1:05:20
Like if he hadn't told his cartilage, he would have won
1:05:22
that full brawl, which, you know, didn't do anything for
1:05:26
Bach gun. But there's another missed
1:05:27
opportunity where because he is this legitimate tough guy,
1:05:31
everyone had him down as like, if you put him in this
1:05:33
tournament, he's going to tear through everyone and then injury
1:05:36
hits again. And the whole thing was Doctor
1:05:39
Death was meant to win, wasn't he?
1:05:40
Yeah, which is why they were like, if you've got someone who
1:05:43
you think is a winner is you can't have black men.
1:05:45
And they're like, there was apparently legitimate concerns
1:05:48
that like, black men will kill anyone.
1:05:50
Like if you're going for a shoot, you'll you'll do it.
1:05:54
Yeah, so I've heard a story. So friend of the podcast Brett
1:05:59
Brett says he one of his favorite stories is that they
1:06:04
must have landed and they were getting waiting for their
1:06:07
baggage. Yeah, JBL and that were like
1:06:09
bullions Blackman. Blackman just like gives him a
1:06:12
Roundhouse kick, knocks him out and JBL just lands on the
1:06:15
conveyor belt and just goes around with the luggage.
1:06:18
Yeah, so that was in there as well.
1:06:19
So that's kind of another bit of a derailment for him because he
1:06:21
and gets them taken off TV for a month because of that, because
1:06:25
Vince is there. It was a paper view Sunday that
1:06:27
they'd landed and JBL like the the apparently they were
1:06:31
laughing about a couple of weeks later.
1:06:32
But apparently JBL said like he's never been hit with four
1:06:35
punches quicker in his life. Wow.
1:06:38
So it's punches. You got hit before, before
1:06:40
punches. Wow.
1:06:41
Yeah, like 4 punches in the space for about two seconds,
1:06:43
apparently just just knocked out.
1:06:46
And then Vince apparently walked up the black bin and just went
1:06:48
on a pay-per-view Sunday. Steve, come on.
1:06:53
But not the workplace, now or not on a Sunday.
1:06:56
But that that's probably what Blackmun said to Vince that
1:06:58
like, he can't promise that you'll not knock somebody out
1:07:01
again. But he promises it won't be in
1:07:02
an airport. So yeah.
1:07:06
So he takes exactly, yes, he takes his cartilage.
1:07:09
So unlucky again out the full brawl.
1:07:11
When he comes back, he faces Shamrock for the IC title, the
1:07:14
Capital Carnage, which is a little UK pay-per-view that
1:07:17
Vinny Jones makes an appearance on.
1:07:19
He loses that match and turns heel and then again, kind of
1:07:22
shown him getting pushed. He then kind of sides with the
1:07:24
Mcmahons where they hire him as a hit man to take out Shamrock,
1:07:28
which leads to an Iron Circle and the Lions Den match.
1:07:32
So kind of like you were saying that it's interesting that you
1:07:34
thought he was kind of pushed as like a Shamrock.
1:07:36
But I think they were both of the same ilk.
1:07:39
They both had this legitimate background.
1:07:41
It's just Shamrock got more of the screen time.
1:07:44
But yeah, so he had like, a long few.
1:07:46
Can you remember the Lions den? Lions Den match.
1:07:48
I remember the own heart versus Shamrock one.
1:07:50
Yeah. So like, again, they were
1:07:51
different. I like when they tried different
1:07:53
stuff, they brought them back in NXT with Matt Riddle and Timothy
1:07:56
Thatcher and it was a bit of a bit of a bigger cage and things
1:07:59
like that. But it was cool.
1:08:00
It worked. So again, like he has a guy
1:08:02
who's getting kind of specialist matches, so like really cool.
1:08:05
So he finishes his feud with Shamrock, challenges deal Brown
1:08:10
for the European title, doesn't win that last year, Val Venus
1:08:13
interfering then as a mini feud with Val Venus, which I'm only
1:08:16
mentioning is during the feud, Blackmun used to carry his
1:08:19
Kendall sticks to the ring in a bag during one of the matches,
1:08:22
Venus swaps it out and Blackmun ends up just pulling a lot of
1:08:25
dildos out in the ring. Attitude.
1:08:27
Attitude Era. Three-year was the best,
1:08:30
remember. He then as as Kurt's getting
1:08:33
brought in, he has a very short lived tag team with Kurt Angle,
1:08:35
another guy who says he's legitimately one of the hardest
1:08:38
men he's ever met. Kurt about Steve and then a mini
1:08:40
feud with Kurt. Then we'll get the comedy duo of
1:08:44
Head Cheese. Can you remember whose tag team
1:08:45
partner was in Head Cheese? Al Snow, baby.
1:08:48
Al Snow where again, because it's kind of the starting to
1:08:51
kind of see what he's like on the mic if he's got more bit of
1:08:54
personality because he's known for being so deadpan.
1:08:56
So again, with this stuff, we want to start to try and
1:08:58
recommend things to seek out. So definitely look at some of
1:09:01
the kind of head cheese vignettes and segments that they
1:09:04
did. There's a really good one where
1:09:06
I'll take Steve Blackman to an old people's home where Steve
1:09:09
Blackman does some stand up comedy.
1:09:11
That's really good. Yeah, Yeah, I know.
1:09:15
It's it's really. And again, there's I found some
1:09:17
clips of Steve Blackman talking about it.
1:09:19
And Steve Blackman said it was like it was real, like the old
1:09:22
people didn't know what they were doing.
1:09:23
So like they thought they were getting someone doing stand up.
1:09:25
So the one woman who kicks off on him apparently quite
1:09:27
legitimate during that tag team title run, because they do get
1:09:31
over with the crowd. They get one shot of the tag
1:09:33
team titles. It's against the New Age Outlaws
1:09:35
that don't win. But again, according to Steve
1:09:37
Blackman, they were due to win, but he doesn't like speak badly
1:09:41
of people. But somebody on the day went up
1:09:43
and said I don't think they need to win the titles.
1:09:46
So he gets the tag team titles taken away from them.
1:09:49
If the Outlaws are involved in that match, who would you think?
1:09:51
Maybe he's had the word and the producers here about them not
1:09:54
getting the belt. I think so the way the way he
1:09:59
says it, I think so it's it's an interview on YouTube.
1:10:03
I think that definitely is. But then you get kind of the
1:10:06
black men. I remember more of my kind of
1:10:08
time. So this is when he goes into the
1:10:09
hardcore division and he becomes the hardcore champion.
1:10:13
So he's actually the guy who's held the hardcore title for the
1:10:17
longest amount of time or put together in the history of that
1:10:20
belt. He has a big feud with Shane
1:10:22
McMahon which leads to a huge match at Summer Slam where
1:10:26
that's the match where Shane and him climb up with the top of the
1:10:28
Titantron. Blackman hits him a couple of
1:10:30
times with a Kendall stick. Shane does a huge fall from the
1:10:33
top and Blackman follows it with an elbow drop.
1:10:37
So can you remember the hardcore run of Blackman?
1:10:39
I remember the sheet like man feud.
1:10:42
I don't remember the the hardcore run that much other
1:10:45
than that. I always remember because
1:10:47
obviously he was trained in the like martial arts, like he was
1:10:50
really good with a bin lid. Like it makes us like looking
1:10:54
back after hearing that JBL story, you could hit someone
1:10:56
with a bin lid in about four or five times.
1:10:57
And there's a couple of good matches with X pack where X pack
1:11:00
X pack sells those bin bin shots really well.
1:11:03
So he's obviously hardcore match and again, like getting put in
1:11:06
there with the bosses. Sona summer slam.
1:11:07
That's pretty big, isn't it? Oh.
1:11:09
You obviously trusted. Yeah, 100%.
1:11:12
So obviously you get the big bump.
1:11:14
His kind of hardcore title kind of era of runs ends with a loss
1:11:17
to Raven. So again, the kind of hardcore
1:11:19
legend is do we we create current NT and now so he gets
1:11:23
put in A tag, which I can't remember this at all, but he
1:11:26
gets put in A tag team with Grandmaster Sexy.
1:11:28
Can you remember that? And also this after Akashi and
1:11:31
Sky do what he moves in the show and have the brand split.
1:11:34
Yeah, so he gets put in A tag team again.
1:11:37
Blackman's own words said it was getting over and the plan was to
1:11:40
give them the belts bought. Grandmaster Sexy gets caught
1:11:44
trying to Canada with drugs and is released from his contract.
1:11:48
So then again, another kind of run put to an end when that
1:11:51
happened. So Blackman, this is kind of
1:11:54
really sad this. So Blackman's had loads of neck
1:11:56
injuries and he's been wrestling hurt for a long time.
1:11:59
So when Grandmaster Sexy gets released, he goes to Jr. and
1:12:02
asks and says, look like, can I go and get the surgery now?
1:12:05
Jr. is like, of course, go do it.
1:12:07
So obviously he has his kind of surgeries and then he briefly
1:12:11
kind of comes back and then in October 2001, he's released from
1:12:16
the WWE as kind of all the Invasion stuff's going on.
1:12:19
So that's the end of his run. So kind of within 18 months
1:12:24
facing Shane, it's Summer Slam, he's released from the company
1:12:28
over that brief, brief appearances.
1:12:30
He's be that only of that time in the WE ring was in 2007 where
1:12:34
he competed in essentially A gimmick battle royal where he
1:12:36
was eliminated by Flash Funk. Now he had a MMA school and
1:12:40
trained for a while and he works as a legitimate bails bondsman.
1:12:43
So he's essentially A bounty hunter.
1:12:46
Get in, say dog, the big bad dog.
1:12:48
Yeah, and he's just a really, he's a cool guy to watch because
1:12:52
like he is very to the point. So like he always says that kind
1:12:56
of he gets asked one of his biggest regrets.
1:12:58
He says it's kind of just not doing more with the talent he
1:13:01
feel like he had. But he said that that was on him
1:13:04
because ultimately he was wrestling and pain for so long
1:13:07
that he was going out there and he was only doing half speed,
1:13:09
which was good enough. But he felt that like, yeah, he
1:13:12
was just in pain all the time with headaches because of his
1:13:15
neck. And let's say I have multiple
1:13:18
neck surgeries, constant pain during his run.
1:13:22
And yeah, that that's kind of black man's career in a
1:13:25
nutshell. But I just think, yeah, there's
1:13:27
a lot there, isn't there, especially with considering it
1:13:29
was 1988 where he started. Yeah.
1:13:32
And obviously you think even then, if you see if he signs the
1:13:35
WE then and he's probably in there working with the likes of
1:13:38
Brett 123 kid Sean, be working with Morty Janetti, you know, be
1:13:43
working with take all those guys in that builder, which we like.
1:13:49
Imagine that would be really cool and.
1:13:51
Yeah, and I think he was, you know, obviously getting in there
1:13:53
with Shane's probably the the biggest moment for kind of, you
1:13:56
know, all eyes on you, especially on Summer Slam.
1:13:58
And I think one of the things people always think held him
1:14:00
back was the ability that like he wasn't that great on the mic,
1:14:03
but I think he was such a natural killer.
1:14:05
It didn't matter. Again, he tells a quite a good
1:14:07
story where I think Vince Nicole, people bring him into
1:14:09
office to essentially try and like bring him out of his shell
1:14:12
as a character in the go to him. Like, right.
1:14:15
We'll just imagine there's somebody in front of you in the
1:14:17
mouth and off to you. Like, what would you say to
1:14:19
them? And Blackman just went, well, I
1:14:21
wouldn't say anything. I'll just go and kill them and
1:14:23
they would just like right, get out.
1:14:25
Yes, wow. Like, like what I suppose is it,
1:14:28
I think it's legit. Like and there's so many people
1:14:30
have come out and said that like, Oh no, he absolutely is
1:14:32
legit. One of the hardest people that's
1:14:34
ever been in the locker room. Wow.
1:14:37
Do you think you'd ever make the Hall of Fame?
1:14:41
I don't, but I think that's a real shame because like I say, I
1:14:44
mean I think he's unlucky because what he was part of the
1:14:48
attitude hero where there was so much.
1:14:51
But when he actually dive into the career, he did do quite a
1:14:54
lot, ranging from kind of hardcore matches to comedy with
1:14:57
Al Snow to kind of getting brought in quite big.
1:14:59
You know, came with a hard foundation and Vader and, you
1:15:02
know, getting put there up again.
1:15:04
Shamrock, who many people thought was on kind of course to
1:15:06
win the title as well. Yeah, he's he's done the
1:15:10
comedies, done the hardcore, he's done the legitimate stuff
1:15:12
with Sham Rocky, sort of done it, wasn't he?
1:15:14
Tag team singles picked all the boxes.
1:15:19
Really just say that. He's an all round performer.
1:15:22
Yeah, and I think I think a big one for kind of what could have
1:15:24
happened just because of how mental it was was if he had of
1:15:27
one full brawl. How that then pans out for him
1:15:31
because he again in the in the interview I watched because
1:15:33
obviously Bachmann ends up going on the face, but I've been and
1:15:36
get an absolutely bad black man rang as he could have took but
1:15:39
I've been. Does he?
1:15:41
Well, maybe. But in but he says it in a way
1:15:44
where like you believe him. It's not like, Oh well, yeah,
1:15:47
I'm hard as fuck. He breaks down how he would have
1:15:50
done it and where bought gun went wrong.
1:15:53
So it's like he does it in a way where you're like, yeah, I think
1:15:55
you probably could have actually met.
1:15:57
Yeah, wow. Steve Blackman.
1:16:01
What a legend. Yeah, I see.
1:16:02
I really enjoyed it and I kind of if people want to kind of do
1:16:05
a deep dive and check out some stuff, I would definitely
1:16:07
recommend looking at the comedy stuff with Al.
1:16:09
And then match wise, obviously the obvious ones, him versus
1:16:11
Shane, some Aslam. It's a really good hardcore
1:16:14
title match between him and Kane from Raw as well, which is on
1:16:18
YouTube. And also his lines then match
1:16:20
with Ken Shamrock. Just because it's kind of, it's
1:16:22
different, it's out there and it's kind of two real killers
1:16:25
kind of going at it on a wrestling environment.
1:16:29
It certainly is. That brings then to Cursed by
1:16:32
the Wrestling Gods. We're going to move into our
1:16:35
final segment before we wrap up and that is the wrestling feel
1:16:41
good fact of the week where we just talk about something that's
1:16:44
either happened this week or something we've found out this
1:16:46
week that we think is pretty cool about wrestling.
1:16:48
I want to start off by saying obviously he's probably been
1:16:52
probably been said that he's been naughty and that he's been
1:16:57
guilty for so long. But Ted Diviasi Junior is
1:17:02
innocent of stealing all that money from the from the
1:17:06
charities. Luke, I don't know if you've
1:17:07
seen that this week. I did, yes.
1:17:10
It's, it's, yeah. It was because it was looking
1:17:12
nailed on. I thought from what I'd read
1:17:14
that he'd be doing some time and the next thing you know, he's,
1:17:16
he's off the hook. Yeah.
1:17:19
And it's strange that I heard that, like, people who also for
1:17:21
the same thing, they just pled guilty and got sent down.
1:17:24
But Ted Diviasi Junior actually took it a trial.
1:17:27
And then he's actually, like, 1. I don't know if there's more
1:17:30
trials to happen, But like, yeah, it looks like Ted Debiasi
1:17:33
Junior is in the clear. He's been found not guilty and
1:17:37
sort of say, yeah, that's good. I mean, if he's been found
1:17:40
innocent, I think that means he is, which is good for him.
1:17:42
That's why it's feel good. But also when we've got Randy
1:17:45
Orton versus Cody, Orton's happening, right?
1:17:47
And it reeks of the legacy past. Does Ted Debiasi Junior get
1:17:50
involved at WrestleMania now? I don't need to get some
1:17:54
involved at WrestleMania, but I could maybe see him on a
1:17:57
Smackdown in the lead up do it in some way.
1:18:02
Because. I think WrestleMania is too big.
1:18:05
He's probably not right but a marginal to WrestleMania and
1:18:10
like Cordy's about a win and like a mass map, not a mass man,
1:18:13
so a lottery mass man. But Martin comes out the crowd
1:18:16
and like low blows Cordy and gives gifts the window on and
1:18:18
it's Ted to BRC Junior. Yeah, the only thing I think by
1:18:23
putting back and you know, not here body sharing anyone from
1:18:25
the photos I've seen, it doesn't look in great shape, which you
1:18:28
know if he's if he's been under a lot of stress, fair enough.
1:18:31
But yeah, he doesn't. From the photos I've seen of
1:18:33
them coming in and out the courthouse, it doesn't look ring
1:18:36
ready, which why I think maybe he's like, bringing him out to
1:18:39
speak could work. Do you think does he need to go
1:18:44
on Simon's system to get back in shape?
1:18:47
The Simon Diamond system? Absolutely, yeah.
1:18:49
So it'll call back for any wrestling fans from that era.
1:18:52
And then my actual feel good factor that that just came up
1:18:56
this week. But the actual feel good factor
1:18:59
I had planned was apparently professional wrestling is the
1:19:01
oldest sport. Wrestling is considered the
1:19:04
oldest sport with cave drawings found in Southern Europe dating
1:19:08
back as far as 3000 BC, making it a timeless tradition.
1:19:13
I don't know how real that is, but it's on the Internet, so it
1:19:15
must have some truth, right? Definitely, and I'd love to see
1:19:18
some Cavemen cutting some promos.
1:19:21
Couldn't but what what the cutting was on dinosaurs like
1:19:23
big apes, the cutting them on walruses like like yetis like
1:19:29
imagine just all the different incarnations that they're having
1:19:32
there. Yeah, and that's how that's how
1:19:34
they could have been priced in the moves as well on the dead
1:19:36
animals, because I know a lot who got fired from an Avatar
1:19:38
because he got caught at 5 and pigs.
1:19:41
No, he didn't. Stop it.
1:19:42
Yeah. He did.
1:19:44
He did. Yeah, I got, I've got their one.
1:19:47
But yeah, he did. Me, me, me and me and our good
1:19:49
friend, me and our good friend George.
1:19:50
You know him very well and used to an avatar.
1:19:53
And he was doing an F5 on a pig because he loved F He loved
1:19:55
Brock Lesnar. Yeah, he said.
1:20:00
He said there was the F5 he got caught on, but he'd been power
1:20:02
bombing them for ages. As an adult.
1:20:06
Yeah, yeah. So he probably would be 1819 I
1:20:09
reckon. Yeah.
1:20:11
But yeah, he was, he was wearing an arbitrary, I'd be of a
1:20:14
certain age, but yeah, he did. He's a big guy as well, to be
1:20:17
fair. Like so help with the strength.
1:20:18
So and I don't know if that's disrespectful or not.
1:20:21
What happens to a pigs in an abattoir?
1:20:22
They're just going to get slow out anyway.
1:20:24
Surely an F5 doesn't matter? I just think like, I just know
1:20:31
how could be doing that like. It's good, isn't it?
1:20:33
Pigs. I might, I might, I might
1:20:36
message him and ask him if he's happy to share that story and he
1:20:40
might, I might come to send us a voice note and he can tell it
1:20:41
because it is quite funny. I'll.
1:20:43
Have a look at. It yes, but yeah, it's not it's
1:20:46
not my story to tell with names in in detail, but yeah, that is
1:20:50
you can do that. That is, that is true, yeah.
1:20:52
Wow, Well, yes, all the sport professional wrestling.
1:20:57
There we go. You heard it here first, folks.
1:20:59
You better believe that. And then just before we wrap
1:21:03
things up, so we did actually have a message from a few weeks
1:21:05
ago. E Monk sort of replied on all
1:21:09
the sort of the show just said that the love in the podcast and
1:21:16
that they still have it doesn't matter on cassette.
1:21:18
Apparently so a great fight still have a cassette.
1:21:22
I don't think so play out or if you've got a tape player he mum,
1:21:24
but if you have, I hope you are enjoying it doesn't matter and
1:21:27
thank you for checking the podcast out.
1:21:30
Luke. Any other?
1:21:31
Music you'll know. That was going to be one of my
1:21:33
positives, actually. It's good to see Nickelback
1:21:35
doing some music for WrestleMania.
1:21:36
That's a nice little wrestling synergy throwback, isn't it?
1:21:39
Nickelback doing music for the WE again.
1:21:42
Isn't doing you've been doing for the past 20 years.
1:21:43
I'm there. So like it's obviously with
1:21:46
breaks, but like 20 years ago they did 1.
1:21:48
So it's good to see 20 years, 10 years.
1:21:51
They definitely burn at the ground.
1:21:52
Was the Ross Raw one for a while a long time?
1:21:54
During like the demo title once I was 2004 so that is like 20
1:21:58
years ago when I wasn't. It yeah, I think they could be
1:22:01
definitely a cool Hall of Fame one sometime.
1:22:04
I think so. Definitely 100% any course
1:22:09
messages for the viewers or the listeners, even as I should say
1:22:11
not the. Viewers, yeah, just, yeah, we're
1:22:13
not, we're not visual just yet. Yeah, just get in touch, I say.
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I think it's a really good part of the show.
1:22:17
Like I say, obviously going back to kind of, you know, get us
1:22:19
talking about figures, merchandise.
1:22:21
We've talked about journalists this week.
1:22:22
Obviously, I think one of my favorite ones was getting asked
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One last thing. We've just got to say it.
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Guess what? It is steel real of us, damn it.
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