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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, February 17 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and
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  Speaker 1: now two time gold medal winning half pipe, stovepipe, pipe,
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  Speaker 1: drain pipe, windpipe, backpipe, and pipe dope. J P. Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: that's a long list. Welcome in its Jaguars Happy Hour
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  Speaker 1: on a Thursday afternoon. My name's j. P. Shadrick. We
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  Speaker 1: have a busy hour ahead. Jaguars analyst Jeff Lockhaman returns
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  Speaker 1: to the show. That's the top line, of course. Coaching
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  Speaker 1: staff announcement earlier today will break down some of the
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  Speaker 1: names who have joined the staff, twenty two coaches. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like that's cutting a half from last year. Butselly's
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame reaction will get some of the thoughts
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  Speaker 1: from the big fella from last week that that story
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  Speaker 1: is not going away, you do. That'll go all the
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  Speaker 1: way through August. Of course, that we'll go around the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League and our thoughts on Super Bowl fifty six,
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  Speaker 1: some of the news that has come out around the
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  Speaker 1: league since then. Jeff Logaman joining us now here in studio.
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  Speaker 1: I we're sweating to the oldiest today in here. It's
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  Speaker 1: a little warm here in the office, but good to
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  Speaker 1: see it. Oh Man yeah, what what happened to the
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  Speaker 1: h V A C unit. And I'm not talking about
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  Speaker 1: the uh, the age part. It's it's a work in progress.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay. It's one of those. But hey, it's gonna see.
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  Speaker 1: You were gone last week, you're back at it. It's
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  Speaker 1: good to be seen, to be honest with that. That
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  Speaker 1: means that we're all above ground. So that's positive. And
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  Speaker 1: a lot has happened since the last time that we spoke,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, and I can tell you that last Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: I celebrated, I think with a lot like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people did in Jacksonville with with the announcement that
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  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli was inducted in the Hall of Fame. It's
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  Speaker 1: a long time coming. We've been talking about it for
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  Speaker 1: years and years. And we'll get into this a little
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  Speaker 1: more in depth coming up in a little while. But
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  Speaker 1: just to see the reaction on his face, the Famili's face,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's what made it special for me at least. Well,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I take it to another level because
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  Speaker 1: I saw and read some of Leon Searc's comments and
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  Speaker 1: that we all kind of go in with him, and
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  Speaker 1: and really we do in some respects because you know
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  Speaker 1: Tony was our teammate, and and we've always been a
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  Speaker 1: big fan of Tony's. We have always thought very highly
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  Speaker 1: of him as a player. And I've said this before,
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  Speaker 1: there's only a couple of players that in my career
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  Speaker 1: that I actually would go to the sideline and then
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  Speaker 1: return to watch somebody on the offensive side of the ball,
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  Speaker 1: and Tony was that guy. I did it early in
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  Speaker 1: my career a little bit with Freeman McNeil, because Freeman
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  Speaker 1: McNeil was such a gifted runner, and I used to
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  Speaker 1: love how he could be running parallel to the line
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  Speaker 1: of scrimmage and then plant his foot and then at
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  Speaker 1: a hundred miles and our same speed he was running parallel,
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  Speaker 1: He's running north and south, and I thought that was
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  Speaker 1: a special gift. Aut Tune who was on his way
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  Speaker 1: to having a Hall of Fame type of career until
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  Speaker 1: the concussion issue that he sustained cut his career short.
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  Speaker 1: I was on the same field watching Ronnie Lott, and
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  Speaker 1: I used to sit there in Marvel and watch the
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  Speaker 1: film of Ronnie Lott because I would be watching myself,
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  Speaker 1: but then I would want to watch Ronnie Lott. Art Monk,
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  Speaker 1: who I had the opportunity to play with for one
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  Speaker 1: year in New York who came to us. I used
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  Speaker 1: to love watching how Art Monk conducted himself and how
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  Speaker 1: he practiced. He was the epitome of excellence. With Tony.
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  Speaker 1: I've got so many different stories from when he came
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  Speaker 1: in as a young pup to the first game that
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  Speaker 1: he ever played. I'll never forget it because he was
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  Speaker 1: as a rookie had the knee issue because I heard
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  Speaker 1: him remember this story, Yes, you um pretty decided to
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  Speaker 1: pretty simple story. We're in Steven's Point, Wisconsin and we're
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  Speaker 1: doing one on one pass rush drills and it's a
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  Speaker 1: little wet out and I do a bull rush on Tony.
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  Speaker 1: He hurts the knee, and you know, the franchise is
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  Speaker 1: headed in the downward spiral because Tony heard a knee.
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  Speaker 1: They put him on Wayne Weaver's jet and find out
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  Speaker 1: that he's got to have a fix. They fixed the knee.
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  Speaker 1: His first game back ever as a rookie was against
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  Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers right here at home, and it
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  Speaker 1: was against the defensive end that was Shawn Jones. Sean
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  Speaker 1: Jones was one of the best defensive ends in all
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  Speaker 1: of football. All of football and so when I came
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  Speaker 1: to the sideline and Tony was out on the field
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  Speaker 1: against Sean Jones, I couldn't wait to watch him play,
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  Speaker 1: and he kicked the snot out of Seawan Jones. It
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  Speaker 1: was no different than the playoff game in ninety six
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  Speaker 1: going to Buffalo. You couldn't wait to watch the matchup
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  Speaker 1: against Bruce Smith and to watch Tony kick the snot
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  Speaker 1: out of Bruce Smith. Watching Tony battle Mike McCrary every
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  Speaker 1: year a couple of times, I mean, these were these
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  Speaker 1: were monumental matchups that you just as a as a
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  Speaker 1: teammate of his, you couldn't wait to watch. And that's
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  Speaker 1: very rare. I mean, here, here's the thing, JP. Not
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  Speaker 1: many defensive linemen are gonna break out the popcorn. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: arall owens break out the popcorn and watching offensive lineman.
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  Speaker 1: There's only been a couple of guys in in my
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  Speaker 1: career that ever did that. With Tony BASSELLI was one
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  Speaker 1: of them. Larry Allen was another one because he was
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  Speaker 1: so dominant, and uh, I can't remember another that I
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  Speaker 1: literally would would pay the price of admission to watch.
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  Speaker 1: The one I like is. And we'll get into the
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  Speaker 1: base stuff. Now we'll get to the coaching staff announced.
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  Speaker 1: That's coming up a little bit later here on Jaguar's
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour now. But the one I liked was I
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  Speaker 1: think Thomas had five or six sacks one week. The
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  Speaker 1: next week, the Jaguars are playing the Kansas City Chiefs,
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  Speaker 1: and I think they asked Tom confind, hey, are you
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  Speaker 1: gonna help us out? No, he's he's he's gonna line
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  Speaker 1: up one on one on the outside. Okay, no big deal,
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  Speaker 1: and shut about. I mean, didn't have a sack in
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  Speaker 1: that next game. And speed guy a little different. Tony
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  Speaker 1: is a massive human being, but from six, five or
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  Speaker 1: six sacks one week to zero and he was one
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  Speaker 1: of He's in the Hall of Fame too, Tony had
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  Speaker 1: Tony was an incredibly smart offensive lineman, and that he
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  Speaker 1: knew what the strength was. I mean, much like people
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  Speaker 1: talk about Bill Belichick taking away the strength of an offense.
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  Speaker 1: As an offensive lineman, you're facing pass rushers that have strengths.
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  Speaker 1: Derrick Thomas get off outside speed rush. That was his strength,
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  Speaker 1: and so for Tony, Tony was inviting him to essentially
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  Speaker 1: to try to run him over. Because Tony wasn't fearful
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  Speaker 1: of Derrick Thomas's power. Well, you had to be scared
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  Speaker 1: of was his speed. And when you faced Reggie White,
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  Speaker 1: Reggie White power, Reggie White move. I mean so, but
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  Speaker 1: Tony was always very aware of what a defensive lineman's
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  Speaker 1: strength was and what their weakness was, and and so
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  Speaker 1: he adapted I think in a lot of ways his
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  Speaker 1: game against players based on what that was. And and
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  Speaker 1: you know, you hear Tony talk all the time about J. J. Watt.
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  Speaker 1: Many people look at J. J. Watt and his hey
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  Speaker 1: day now as being this powerful, strong guy, and Tony
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  Speaker 1: always say, that's not j J. Watt. J J. Watts.
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  Speaker 1: You need to fear his shake because he doesn't use
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  Speaker 1: his power a whole lot. Well, all most offensive lineman
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  Speaker 1: got into trouble with J J because they thought he
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  Speaker 1: was a power guy. But that's what made Tony smart.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when I would try to go against Tony
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  Speaker 1: and practice one of my better moves, I didn't have
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  Speaker 1: any great moves. One of my better moves was to
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  Speaker 1: knock the hands down. I called it the karate kid
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  Speaker 1: wax on him, wax off kind of thing, and it
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  Speaker 1: used to drive me crazy because Tony would pass set
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  Speaker 1: and then either pull his hands away at that time,
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  Speaker 1: or he would hide him and not give them to
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  Speaker 1: you and then shoot him at the last second because
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  Speaker 1: he knew that was the move that I had. And
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  Speaker 1: so I mean as a pass rusher, that was frustrating
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  Speaker 1: because he was aware of what your strength was and
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  Speaker 1: he could adapt his pass set, his pass protection to
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  Speaker 1: to accommodate any pass rusher to benefit him. And uh
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  Speaker 1: and on top of that, he had a nastiness that
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  Speaker 1: that I think a lot of offensive lineman today do
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  Speaker 1: not have. And he liked to finish guys, and I
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  Speaker 1: when I say finished guys, he would finish guys. He
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of fun to watch and and I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm proud for him, proud of him, happy for him
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  Speaker 1: and his family. It's well deserved and and it's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Seventy one is gonna be in the hall. Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: They better get some more clay to make that book.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about that you've got a big hit. They
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  Speaker 1: might have to expand a big head physically, like like
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  Speaker 1: literally if you measured it, he's got like one of
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  Speaker 1: the piggers. I think they had to order a special
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  Speaker 1: helmet for him. Like, how about that breaking news. Just
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  Speaker 1: because he's in the Hall doesn't mean we're gonna stop.
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  Speaker 1: It's only just because busting a shop, That's right. Let's
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  Speaker 1: hear from Tony. We caught up with him the day
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  Speaker 1: after the announcement NFL honors this past Thursday, the announcement
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  Speaker 1: came down that he was elected to the Pro Football
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. He sat down with us on Friday
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  Speaker 1: morning and what did it mean to have the family
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  Speaker 1: so much involved? Yeah? It was to me that's the
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  Speaker 1: fun part, chapions of moments, um, because I mean, being
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  Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame is huge, don't be wrong. I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's just it's it's amazing, um. But the special
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  Speaker 1: things for me were the moments I got to share
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  Speaker 1: with people I love and with my wife and my
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  Speaker 1: kids and my close friends. That's what matter life and uh,
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  Speaker 1: and there's been so many already and that's what I
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  Speaker 1: really enjoyed about the process. So the one person that
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  Speaker 1: was not around obviously for this, with his father who
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  Speaker 1: passed away last year, missed it by a year. But
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  Speaker 1: from what we saw in the reports after the private
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  Speaker 1: dinner after the fact Thursday night, they actually recorded a
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  Speaker 1: message from his dad before he passed away, like two
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  Speaker 1: weeks before he died, and that was part of the
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  Speaker 1: presentation Thursday this past Thursday night out in l A
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  Speaker 1: And really good tribute there, but that's the one person
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  Speaker 1: that was missing. But just just seeing the glow on
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  Speaker 1: the faces of the kids, they're they're really hyped up
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  Speaker 1: and excited, you know about all this happening finally for
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  Speaker 1: their dad. Well, and it's it's it's incredible and it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a kind of a whirlwind I think for
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  Speaker 1: Tony from from the point last week until until the
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  Speaker 1: induction app actually happens, and uh and and I just
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a cool situation, not just
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  Speaker 1: for him and his family, but it's a I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a great moment for the franchise, for the franchise
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  Speaker 1: to finally have a guy in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's incredibly huge. I think it's bigger than
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people might realize right now because you
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  Speaker 1: finally have somebody in there. And yes, it could start
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  Speaker 1: and open the door for some others in the years
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  Speaker 1: to come, but to finally have somebody in that room
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  Speaker 1: of just under four hundred of the greatest football players
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  Speaker 1: of all time. That is a cornerstone, milestone achievement for
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  Speaker 1: the franchise well. And also I think it's great because
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  Speaker 1: it is Tony and in a lot of respects, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think there can be a better ambassador for Jacksonville
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  Speaker 1: the franchise, but then also Jacksonville the city. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Tony came back to the city after being gone for
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  Speaker 1: quite some time, and and he loves this place. He
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  Speaker 1: loves his franchise, he loves the city. He wants to
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  Speaker 1: live here, and he's raised his family here and that's
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  Speaker 1: I think it's very important. And hopefully he paves the
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  Speaker 1: way for two other guys that are worthy, which is
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  Speaker 1: Fred Taylor and Jimmy Smith. And I think those two guys,
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  Speaker 1: if you looked at them just from a performance standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: simply one of the best two players in the era.
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  Speaker 1: And they're very, very deserving as well. Have you been
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  Speaker 1: to Canton since the Hall of Fame game? No? No,
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  Speaker 1: I have not. I was. I went there twice. Was
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  Speaker 1: the last year, which was the year in which the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars and then the Panthers played both expansion franchises. Was
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  Speaker 1: the expansion year, and then in a previous year when
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  Speaker 1: I was with the Jets, we were there because that
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  Speaker 1: was the year that John Riggins was inducted into the
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, which John got his start in professional
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  Speaker 1: football with the New York Jets, I believe, and obviously
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  Speaker 1: made his fame with about the Raal Washington Redskins. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't know this, but I hope that for from
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  Speaker 1: our standpoint, that the Jaguars are playing in the Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame game. And I don't know if this is
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen for most organization if they don't want anything
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  Speaker 1: to do with the Hall of Fame, because it's essentially
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  Speaker 1: it's an extra preseason game that most coaches and players
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  Speaker 1: don't want to have on their docket when they're getting
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  Speaker 1: ready for the regular season, especially now nowadays when the
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  Speaker 1: emphasis has certainly been taken away from the preseason. But
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  Speaker 1: I think it would be really cool, not just because
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  Speaker 1: Tony is going in, but also, uh, Jacksonville native is
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  Speaker 1: going in and uh yeah, and fantastic, and so I
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  Speaker 1: think it would be cool in that aspect. Now we'll
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  Speaker 1: have to wait and see if that does happen, but
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  Speaker 1: but I hope. I hope so, because you know what,
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  Speaker 1: then it ensures that we're gonna be there. True, that
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  Speaker 1: would be really cool, And well, I guess well we
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  Speaker 1: can ask Doug Peterson this tomorrow. You know, if that
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  Speaker 1: were the case, get two extra weeks of training camp.
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  Speaker 1: You don't think the new coaching staff wants two extra
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  Speaker 1: weeks around these guys. Well, it wouldn't be two extra weeks,
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  Speaker 1: it would be one extra week either way. Right. So
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  Speaker 1: they lost two O T A s because of the
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  Speaker 1: rules broken in this past offseason, right, so, which gives
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  Speaker 1: not Doug Peterson's fault, That's right, but that's the hand
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  Speaker 1: their doubt. So why not get some more time? That
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  Speaker 1: would be I think really cool. It's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: cool week anyway in Canton. But if you have the
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  Speaker 1: game on Thursday and then the triment ceremony on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: that's a full week and that would be fun. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I hope, So I hope we get to be there,
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  Speaker 1: and I will. I will be there if I can
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  Speaker 1: be there, regardless of whether the Jaguars are there, and
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  Speaker 1: that's yeah, I think that speaks for all of us.
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  Speaker 1: Let's come back in a moment, coaching staff and ounce
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  Speaker 1: today logs. We've got a lot of names to go through,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of guys to meet. I like this staff.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I'm a big fan of the Doug
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  Speaker 1: Peterson hiring. I wish it had happened sooner, but I
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  Speaker 1: really like that he is the head coach of the
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. That's exactly what this franchise needed at this
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  Speaker 1: point in history. And uh, and I look forward to
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  Speaker 1: to talking with him tomorrow. All Right, Daily's Place schedules
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  Speaker 1: of Keith Urban. I mean there's some big time shows
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  Speaker 1: Some of those shows not on sale yet. They'll go
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  Speaker 1: on sale very soon back in a moment, coaching staff talk.
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  Speaker 1: When we return, it's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Digital Network. Jaguars Happy Hour continues Thursday afternoon. J P.
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  Speaker 1: Shadrick with Jeff Lockman. Glad you're along with us. Joe
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  Speaker 1: Fortunato on the audio print Reaber on the video. We
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  Speaker 1: just went through the Tony Baselly Hall of Fame discussion.
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  Speaker 1: That will go on and on and on rightly. So
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  Speaker 1: it's been a long time coming, but today the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: and head coach Doug Peterson announced the coaching staff for
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Let's start on the offensive staff, and
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  Speaker 1: it starts with offensive coordinator Press Taylor. He was with
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  Speaker 1: Doug Peterson up in Philadelphia in some lower level coaching
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  Speaker 1: roles there, but now he's the offensive coordinator. Jim Bob
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  Speaker 1: Cooter is the passing game coordinator. Mike McCoy, the former
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  Speaker 1: Chargers head coach, is the quarterbacks coach. Phil Rossher is
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line coach, Wide receiver coach Chris Jackson, tight
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  Speaker 1: end coach Richard and Gulo. Running back coaches. Bernie Parmly
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  Speaker 1: returns from last season. Andrew Bryner is the assistant quarterbacks coach.
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  Speaker 1: Will Herriger is the offensive assistant assistant on line coach,
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  Speaker 1: Todd Washington Returns and Nick Williams the offensive quality control coach. So,
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  Speaker 1: and just to lead that list up just for a second,
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  Speaker 1: because a couple of comments here. Press Taylor is the
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  Speaker 1: brother of Zach Taylor, the head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals.
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  Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooer had a lot of respect in Detroit.
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  Speaker 1: He uh, he was a coordinator there with the Detroit lines,
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  Speaker 1: I think for a period of time. Mike McCoy, former
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  Speaker 1: head coach of the San Diego Chargers, who was considered
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  Speaker 1: a brilliant offensive mind, which is one of the reasons
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  Speaker 1: why he got the job in San Diego. So I
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  Speaker 1: think that's a real strong hire to add an experienced
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  Speaker 1: offensive mind there. Richard and Gulo played for the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: as a tight end. Bernie Parmelee was uh the much
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  Speaker 1: discussed positional coach from this past year under Urban Meyer staff,
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  Speaker 1: and he was retained, which is I think it's great
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  Speaker 1: because Bernie Parmly is a great guy and he was
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  Speaker 1: treated like garbage by the previous administration in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: just throwing that out there, and then Todd Washington has
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  Speaker 1: been here before as well. If it's the same Todd
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Washington and I'm thinking about and he comes back, and
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: and Todd's a super guys, so very strong offensive staff.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: A lot of offensive minded head coaches can sometimes shy
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: away from having strong names or strong personalities or people
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: that have a lot of experience doing what he's done.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: So but I like when you've got a guy like
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooter and Mike McCoy with Press Taylor and
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: with of course the head coach, their offensive experience, all
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: of that experience I think is nothing but a good
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: thing for Trevor Lawrence in this offer. Think about the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks those guys have been around Taylor up in Philadelphia,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: of course, most notably Jim Bob Coonter with Matt Stafford
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: in Detroit, excuse me, with Peyton Manning as well, had
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: some time in Denver with him, Mike McCoy of course
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: with Philip Rivers. I mean, so these guys have have
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: seen it at a very high level before they know
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: what it's supposed to look and feel like and hopefully
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: can transfer over to Trevor. And I think it's a
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: it's a real strong offensive staff. I mean, you're you've
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: got some guys that have been in the mountain, so
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: to speak. I think also with Press Taylor, he probably
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: at some point, if this offense goes as you know,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you hope it goes, he could become the next hot
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: offensive candidate, which that seems to be. Where these hot
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: candidates are now coming from is the offensive side of
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the ball. You know what? That that would be good
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: news for the Jags. That means things are going very
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: well on offense exact, the coaches are getting offers and
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: opportunities elsewhere. Let's go to the defense now, and Mike
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Caldwell leads the way as the defensive coordinator, coming up
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: from Tampa. It's his first coordinator role. He's been an
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: assistant for a long time in the league. Bob Sutton
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: returns as the senior defensive assistant. Brentson Buckner is the
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: defensive line coach. Bill Shoey outside linebackers. Tony Gilbert gets
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: the inside linebackers. He returns. Cody Graham is the safety's coach.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Secondary and cornerback coaches to Shay Townsend. He had a
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: long playing career, most notably in Pittsburgh and he went
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: to Alabama. Luck's assistant d line coaches Roy Siegrist and
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: defensive call to control is Patrick Riley, but called Well
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: gets his first coordinator role. And again leave this list
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: up of Caldwell. Excellent player, very respected, had an assistant
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: head coach position I think with the Jets, which shows
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: you the level of respect that he has around the league.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: For for a head coach to name him in that position,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: that's outstanding. Bob Sutton, who was on the staff last year,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: is an absolute wealth of knowledge. He's been there, He's
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: done that in the game for what forty years. He's
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: a guy that you can when you've got a first
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: time defensive coordinator, that's the kind of guy that you'd
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: like to keep on staff. Or Mike Caldwell. Brentston Buckner,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: of course was a really good football player de line coach.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I like players that have played the position, coaching the
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: positions that they played. Tony Gilbert I think he has
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: done a very good job here. He's retained. Cody Grimm,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I believe is the son of Russ grim Hall of Fame,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: former member of the Redskins offensive line in the hogs
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: uh De Shay Townsend who has been a great former
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: player and and it's not Redskins anymore to Washington football team,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: but when he played, it was the Redskins. Okay, So
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: for all you sensitive people out there, uh sorry, just
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: suck it up. De Shay Townsend who has been a
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: great football player for many years. And uh and I
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: think it's a great higher there because he's been around
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: the block, so to speak as well. So I think
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I I really like the combination on the defensive staff
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: and I'm glad they got experience to be with the
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: first time coordinator. And just hearing from Doug Peterson as
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: press conference this past week, you know, hey, defense are
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: kind of on their own because Peterson's gonna be calling
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the plays on offense. Yes, you'll have an oversight thing
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: on defense, but it's might called well show over there
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: on defense. And I'm curious tomorrow to see exactly what
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: he puts out there of what they want to be
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: on defense. And that's I think that's the one. The
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: one if if you're looking at history about where you
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: look where he's been, Okay, and most recently he's been
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They don't
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: do a whole lot of exotic type of things. They
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: rely on a four man rush. So the real secret
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: there is that if he's a coach, and I think
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: that you have to be in today's day and age
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: in National Football League, you have to be able to
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: adapt to your personnel because there's no vide of aas
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: on defense right now. Okay, there's uh no guy by
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the name of Sue and there's not a guy on
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the outside that might be missing a finger, but he's
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: one of the best pass rushers that there is. Okay,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: So my point being and that you've got to be
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: willing to be able to morph into what that defense needs.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: And I hope that Mike called Will is that the inexperience.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: We don't know for sure if he is at but
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I think with Bob Sutton there to help him and
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Mike called Wall having a lot of experience around the
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: National Football League, at some point you gotta let a
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: strong candidate, a guy that has a lot of respect
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: around the league finally drive the ship. And so so
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I'm happy for him, happy for him. A couple of
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: special teams coaches named as well, and special teams coordinators
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: he farwell he was a ten seasons he played in
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the NFL and was a special teams captain throughout his
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: time with the Seahawks. Luke Thompson the special teams assistant
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: far a while forty years of age. He was a
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: coordinator for the Bills the last three seasons, and special
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: teams and assistant with the Seahawks in sixteen and seventeen,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the Panthers in eighteen and now getting a second go
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: round as a coordinator in the NFL. So a great
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: opportunity for him. And I think special teams coordinators are
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: are very unique and that they have to be able
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: to draw upon some experience and and one of my
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: favorite coordinators in the league is Brent Boyer, who talk
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: about him often. Yes, he was a special teams player
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville in a really good special teams player,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: and he's been one of the better special teams coaches
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And uh he's currently working
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: with Robert Salo with the New York Jets. And he
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: was retained from the previous staff up there in New
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: York because he's a he's a player that's been there
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: and done that, and so with farewell having been there
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: and done that. I like that. So a lot of
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: former players on this. Absolutely, there are guys that have
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: played in the NFL and played for a good length
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: of time in the NFL too, not just a cup
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: of coffee. I think that matters in a lot of
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: cases because when when a player learns that their coach
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: played the game, I think that there is a certain
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: level of respect that is afforded to them. But then
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: after a while you had that, the coach has to
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: start giving you tools results to be better and and
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: to help make those players better. Otherwise that respect evaporates.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: So there has to be a give and take, and
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: so again that respect will be given, but then it
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: has to be continued to be earned. And I think
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: that's the challenge any coaches. But when there's a former
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: player in that position, at least the initial respect happens,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: it gets you in the door, but then you better
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: start making that Hey what can you do for me
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: to make me a better player? That's really what it's
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: about for a lot of guys exactly, and and creating. Now,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: when we heard this term last year with urban Meyer,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and not to bring him up, but he talked about
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: helping players increase their value and that's one way to
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: put it. It's but the simpler way to put it
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: is just hell to help the players be better because
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: when they're better, the yes, it does increase their value.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I don't like it from that standpoint because it's not
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: a team oriented comment. You want to make that player
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: better so that the team can be better. That's the
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: reason why you want to make that player better, not
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: so that he can get a big, fat contract somewhere
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: else next year. You want to make that player better
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: so you can win. What this game is about is winning. Well,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I bet you didn't know that. We've kind of less
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: side of that. I think thoughts, it's better to win
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: than lose. You listen to me, JP deep thought. I've
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: missed you for a couple of weeks. It's good to
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: have you back to keep us on track. We'll come
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: back and hear from Jaguar's head coach Doug Peterson about
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars quarterback with a Hall of Fame quarterback on
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: an interview earlier this week, and we'll go around the
• 26:15
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• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Let's hear from Jaguars Head. It's Doug Peterson. He visited
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: with his former teammate this week. Brett Farve. Brett Farve
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: as a co host is now a co host on
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: NFL Excuse Me Serious x M NFL Radio and Doug
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Peterson was a guest on the show this week and
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: far asked him about the quarterback so far. You know,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. As you talked to Trevor, he he
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: just he just wants to get better. He wants to win.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: He's a proven winner. He did throughout you know, his
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: his days there at Clemson, and he's a he's a
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: tremendous leader, uh you know inside the building with the
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: football team outside the building, you know, and there's a
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: lot of a lot of good things, um that he
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: does that that you can work with and and you know,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: things that you can clean up and uh still want
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: to maintain, you know, aggressiveness, to want to maintain athleticism.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: You don't want to change that stuff with him. But
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: at the same time, you want to teach him how
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: to play, you know, quarterback in the National Football League.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: And you know, obviously my varience watching you know, watching
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: guys like you Bretton just how you how you prepared
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: yourself and how you you know, led the football team.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: And obviously I spent time with with Dan Marino you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: earlier in my career, and guys like that that and
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: like yourself, that really has kind of shaped you know,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: and how we were coached too, you know, um our
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: days in Green Bay with with Mike Holmgren and you
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: know Mooch and you know Marty Mornaway, Gandy reads all
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: those guys how we were, how we were taught, and
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: that's those those those same basic principles you know, hold
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: true today. And that's why I'm excited to be able
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: to work with Trevor and and uh, you know, uh,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: continue to to watch his you know, uh success and
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: growth in the NFL obviously around a number of different
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks there. That's Doug Peterson on the series x M
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: NFL Radio earlier this week. Brett far Of, a co
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: host of that show, who asked him the question we
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: did not air there, but he was he was a
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: backup under Dan Marino. He was a backup too far
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: It was a player two different type of kind of
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: skill sets there. And then as he's going on as
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: a coach, you've seen him work with a number of
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: different skill sets in the NFL too, and that's the
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: ability to adjust to what the player can do. I
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: think will be um will be big for Doug Peterson
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: with the with the two stints that he had with
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Green Bay and uh talking with Brett Farve there, did
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: you hear some of the names that he threw out
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: that were with that Green Bay staff Homegron Mooch, which
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: is Steve Mariucci, Marty morning Wig, Uh, Andy Reid. I mean,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: all of these guys come from that tree of Mike Homeground, tremendous,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: tremendous offensive minds, and so a lot of times you
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: sometimes just have to have good fortune and an opportunity
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: to be able to spend time with people that you
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: learn a lot from. And Doug Peterson certainly had that opportunity,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: not only learning from players, but coaches as well. Players
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: of the statue are far and Marino, but coaches that
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: he had in Green Bay, coaches that he had in Miami, which, oh,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: by the way, uh Shula was pretty pretty dog one
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: good by the way. So a great opportunity that he
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: had to learn from from a lot of great minds.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Looking forward to a hearing from Doug Peterson tomorrow. Jaguars
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: head coach and the coordinators are scheduled to speak about
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: eleven o'clock. The press conferences will be available on Jaguars
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: dot com. And I'm sure he's excited coaching staff now
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: that they're officially announced. They've been here for a little bit.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: A lot of these guys, well they're officially announced. Now.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: It's we're less than two weeks away from the combine
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. That's crazy to think Super Bowl got moved back.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: So here you go. And then the offseason workout program
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: for new coaching staffs starts April four. I mean we're
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: like a month and a half from the vets being
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: able to come back and get in the weight room
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: and do all that, and then you're already looking at
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: free agency as mid March. I mean the league year
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: starts March six. I mean we're at it now. Yeah.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: The the the off season for the players. When we
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: say the workouts start first week of April, most of
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: the players, the workouts don't ever stop. Yeah. For for
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of players, players have been if they haven't
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: had any type of surgical procedure, a lot of them
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: are still rehabbing something that was not operated on and
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: are doing some type of maintenance workout stuff. Some guys
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: have already taken that time off, and we'll take let's
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: say the a period of time to three weeks. When
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I was a younger player, I might only take two
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: weeks off, but the older I got, sometimes it was
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: even less than that. So you just didn't stop because
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: you didn't want to lose what you would gain. So
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: for the players, it's not like they're sitting around on
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: the couch eating Cheetos in their underwear, okay, and drinking
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: soda pop okay. They're they're working out and they're taking
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: care of their diet. Did you look at me when
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you said that? And I didn't look at you. I
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I looked at me when you said cheetos and soda
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: pop on the couch. I don't know why passive aggressive
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: logs something. Sorry that you're an NFL player. Sorry you
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: have a complex about that, but I was talking about
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: NFL players cheetos and but that's that's. Uh. The one
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: thing that's pretty cool too is that when when the
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: league year starts and the new coaches start, you get
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a jump on the rest of
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: the league, which I think is really good because you
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: want to be able to you want to be able
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: to start instill the new program, the new mindset, and
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: so I like that and I do hope. We were
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: talking earlier about the possibility of maybe getting the Hall
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: of Fame game, and uh, is it too much? And
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of people say, well, is it too much?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: And I was joking around about having the extra preseason game, etcetera,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: extra preparation, and today's day and age of the National
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Football League, with how limited it really has become, I
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: think it's it would be a really good thing if
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: this team were to get that opportunity. So you get
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: the extra opportunity because you have a new coach to
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: start earlier in the all season. If you can get
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: that opportunity to have that extra preseason game, I think
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: that would also serve this team. Well, not so much
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: from getting the extra game standpoint, but you're getting the
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: extra week of practice standpoint. That would be nice. It
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: would be And you know that that game, Let's be honest,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game, You're not seeing frontline guys
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: go in that game most every team if they even
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: travels those guys there in street clothes in the sideline,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: they're not going to touch the field. But it gives
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: you that extra environment to practice. And I like that
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: aspect of it because you can say, Okay, during the
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: week leading up to the Hall of Fame, Okay, we're
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: gonna allow our starters or our top couple guys on
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the on the positional depth chart to get a lot
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: more work in practice leading up to the game. And
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: then once we get to the game, Okay, now we're
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: going to look at some of the back end of
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the roster type of guys or the or the back
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: end of the depth chart type of guy. So I'm
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: okay with that, and a lot of people say, well,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: it doesn't make for a watchable TV. I get it.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I understand that part of it. It is it's incredibly
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: hard to watch some of the early preseason games. But
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: at the same token, when you're looking at just from
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: a preparation standpoint, trying to get ready from a season standpoint,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's very valuable. I read an article to
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: day um the gil uh jil Hodges No Gil Hodges
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: as the baseball player, UM, Dallas Cowboys long time ran
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: jil brand Excuse me, jil Hodges played with the Giants.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I think right? Brand in his own right jil Brandt
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: my apologies wrote an article today NFL dot com um
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: about every team what they should go after and free
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: what what free agent they should have back? And his
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: was Cam Robinson. I'm curious your take on this. The
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: deadline to designate franchise players is March eight. That's coming
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: up relatively quick. He's eligible to be franchised again. I'm
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: not sure exactly what the number would be more than
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: last year. Or you obviously can make a deal and
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: extend him and do all that. Would you do that?
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Are you confident in Walker? Little? Do you even know
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: yet has the staff been on site enough to to
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: really get to know the tape and know that where
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: do you stand on Cam Robinson? The FO you got,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: you got a little bit of time to evaluate that
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: as a new coaching staff. For me, I mean, I've
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: been watching Cam Robinson for for many years and I've
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: been watching Joan Taylor for quite a few years. For me,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: it's a no brainer is to make sure that you
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: find a way to bring Cam Robinson back into the fold.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: And I've said this many times before. I think that
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson could be the best right tackle in football.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Right tackle, yes, And I'm not trying to and I
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: but I can still pay him left tackle money and
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: play him at right tackle. You've got to make sure
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: that the players on board with something like that. And
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Walker Little is better than Cam
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Robinson at left tackle. But here's the thing I think
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: that you need to be realistic about. Right tackle has
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: been your weakness out of the two tackle positions. So
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: if you want to get better, then you you find
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: a way to make those positions competitive. If getting the
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: best two guys on the field is making a move
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: with Cam going to right Walker Little going to left
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: or can of being at left walker little going to right.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: However that works. How are they view the best combination
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: as being? But you've got to create competition to to
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: achieve a higher level of performance, and Juwan has not,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, has not gotten better a lot since
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: his rookie year. About this, guil Brand added this statistic
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: into his argument for Ken Robinson today. He had the
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: best pass blocking grade for Pro Football Focus of any
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Jaguar last season. One sack and five thirty nine snaps.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Cam Robins impressive. And you know, if you franchise him
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: and do all that, then you're gonna move with fifteen million.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just throwing a number out there to right tackle,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: you know, and then well it's gonna be more than
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: fifteen man if he's if he's not as strong at
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: right as he is at left, are you, in theory
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: weakening two positions that way? Or as whatever you get
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: out of it right better than what you had and
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you're okay with that? The Well, the reason I say
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: that moving in the right tackle would, in my mind,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I think be a great situation is that I think
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson is an incredibly dominant blocker run blocker, he
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: finishes really well. He plays the game with great lean
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: not many offensive lyn Juan Taylor does at times, but
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: the consistency is not there. The finish by Juwan hasn't
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: been there enough. And with Cam you're talking about another
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: incredibly big body. Look, and you need to try to
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: find a running game to support a young developing quarterback.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: The better that you can make it, the better this
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: football team will be. So and and look I understand,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Look he's a left tackle. You know, well, you'd be
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: paying him a left tackle money to play right tackle.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I don't care. I've got a I've got a left
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: tackle on a rookie contract. Who makes it okay to
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: maybe overpay a guy that would be playing right tackle.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: But for all of that to work, you have to
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: have the player on board with it. If a player
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to play, you know, if a guy who
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: typically plays left guard doesn't want to move to right
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: guard and he's not gonna be on board with it,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a happy player. So you have
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: to be able to have a happy player. And I
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: think that's what great leadership and great coaching can do,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: is to sometimes have players do things maybe that they
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: ordinarily didn't want to do, but for the betterment of
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: the team, and then maybe in the long run, for
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: the betterment of them, it might be good of them
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: in the long run as well. Well. Here during I'm
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: sure the NFL scouting combine from Doug Peterson, Trent Balkey
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: schedule to speak as well general manager about that and
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: many more Jaguars topics. I believe that will be the
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: next time Trent Bawky schedule to speak to the public,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and then Doug Peterson tomorrow we'll talk about the coaches,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if they'll get that deep into
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: too something like this tomorrow, But that's coming up Art's
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: first second third from Indianapolis, and that will be the
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: big storyline because as we said, the eight that's the Tuesday,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: and that's what two weeks away from this coming Tuesday
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: as the deadline. Well, I think that will be a topic.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I also think that the situation with the executive vice
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: president will also be a question may or may not
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: be resolved at that point, but I think that that's
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: something that is certainly maybe the number one story now
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: that the coaching staff has been filled out. So after
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: tomorrow with the press conferences with the coordinators. Then I
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the May story to watch. The
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson thing is certainly near the top, but I
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: think the e VP situation will be at the top.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Like it. That's a lot going on in the next
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: few weeks ahead. We're back in a moment. We'll look
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: around the National Football League final look at the Super
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Bowl fifty six. Turned out to be a really good game.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: At the end, the refs got involved, but that's happens
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: from time to time, and Rams are Super Bowl champions.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: We'll take a look at some other news from around
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: the NFL. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Digital Network, Jaguars Happy Hour coming down the home stretch,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: and if you're watching on Jaguars dot Com and Jack
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: social media, thank you. First of all. Second, you're looking
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: at the footprint of the new Jaguars Football Performance Center
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: on the practice fields. So they've chopped up one field.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: They're moving some dirt around with equipment, and that dirt
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: part on the right is the footprint of the building itself.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: That will be exciting. So it will be open for
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: training camp. I get a little while ago, but they've
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: fenced off the area around. They're starting to move dirt,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: they're doing things, which is great. That's a good start,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I think. I think they started construction on that literally
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: the day after the last game here at the State.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: They were putting up fencing for the construction area the
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: day after and brought in the mobile offices for the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: construction company. Yeah, it was. It was wasting no time,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: to say the least, so no day wasted there. That's,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: of course the start of that. Hoping hopefully that'll stay
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: on track, and of course groundbreaking on the shipyards expected
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: maybe mid year. Official ground breaking there. The fire museum
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I saw today is up on a lift right now.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I drove by there on gator wall boolar lifted up.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know where they're moving it or how or what,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: but that's a building tall, brick and mortar, and I
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: don't yeah, but there was I could see underneath the building.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: They can do that is really incredible. I mean it's
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: really it's an architectural feet that they can actually take
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: a building or a house and pick it up and
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: move it to another location and then reset it down
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: and then have it still be structurally strong and the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: integrity not be lacking in any way whatsoever? How do
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: they do that? Didn't they do that to the church
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: over here by the baseball grounds? Um, when they move
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: that in? I think it was the same thing right
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: when the ballpark opened and all that, because that was
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: just a blog. I don't remember. I got it was
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: so long ago. Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah, maybe
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: they did. That's it's pretty wild how they do that.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's uh. And how they can move. You
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: sit there and you look at like some of the
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: shipyards actually you know, you're not the shipyards project that
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: we're talking about for the development, but you go out
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: towards like Blunt Island and then you see these big
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: giant things that are taking containers off of ships and
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: things and how big they are, and they just sit
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: there and they creep along and said, how do they
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: do that? Anyway? It's just amazing to me how they
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: can take giant structures and just pick them up and
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: move them like it's a it's an apple on a table,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Let me just move it over here. How about that
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: crazy stuff? But looking forward to the new complex and
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: we are and I it's gonna be interesting to see
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: how they how they because the practice fields are over
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: there and they are disturbed somewhat because you had you
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: had three full grass practice fields. So will the grass
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: fields that are there still remain undisturbed enough to where
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: until this opens up, you can still use those practice
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: fields or will they have to utilize the field inside
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: the stadium game field. They have the indoor over here
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: at Daily's Place. Obviously facility, it's not you can go
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: back and forth the indoor facility. I'm sorry, but it
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: wasn't built to be big enough. In my opinion, that
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: should be the training camps. The next question like what
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: happens well training camp. I mean they're saying they're ready
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: to be rock and rolling by training camp coming year.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah on the fields, just the fields, but no building.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: No thought is when that opens not you have the
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: fields will be ready to rock and roll. I don't know.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. Oh I think they gotta figure
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: out some planes. Okay, so I think they'll we'll see
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: be interesting to watch, I think. So it is it
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: better have better have some fields that you can practice with. Yeah,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go in the parking lot. I mean, what
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: is this. It's like Junction, Texas are going to the desert.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Have you ever played a little bit of pick up
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: football in the parking lot? I have, Yes, It's it's
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: not it's not very good. You might want to stay
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: upright on that one not good and and go down
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: to the car and turn right, you know, on on
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the past pattern. It's not a good option route school
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: round the National Football League recap of Super Bowl fifty
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: six the Rams over the Bengals twenty three twady. There
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: was talk after the game that Sean McVeigh could retire
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: from coaching after leading the Rams to the championship. Nick
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: McVay said, at least he might have had a few
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: on the stage the other day, and he plans to
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: run it back. And as fiancee posted a picture of
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: McVeigh captioned it, No, he is not retiring. There was
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: talk maybe he could go to TV and get double
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: the money. Well, he's first of all, he's very entertaining.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: He's a he's a great leader, he's a he's an
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: excellent coach. Congratulations to him and his football team. Less
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: sneed who was with the Jaguars going all the way
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: back to who who? Who? I knew less very well
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: and he I thought they were crazy trading away all
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: those draft picks, but that they made it work okay,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: and less sneeds were sporting that shirt that that's really
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: funny and he's implying a curse work right, Uh, good stuff,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: But it worked out for them now long run, who knows,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: But they're winning right now. If I'm Andrew Whitworth and
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I'm a left tackle forty years old, and I know
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: all this talk about McVeigh may be retiring and Aaron
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Donald retiring, Look, those guys are still young. They're still
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: in the prime of their careers. No, it's not time
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: for them to retire. Andrew Whitworth though, if he walked
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: away from the game today, what would be wrong with that?
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: You're a forty year old left tackle. I think he
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: said he's about done, so I mean, and it was
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: his speech. I don't know if you saw his speech
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: on the stage. I guess I guess I didn't. He said, Hey,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: you know, five years ago, a lot of people counted
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: me out, said my career is over. But I bet
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: on myself and this team took a chance on me,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: and I'm here, at forty years old, home the Lombardi Trophy.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: So bet on yourself. He said that was his message
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: the other day. Yeah, well he's been he's been a
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: really good left tackling and could he play again, Absolutely
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: he could. He's still a good player. He's not a
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: liability in any way, and he's tough as nails, and
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: he's been a really he's not a Hall of Fame
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: type player, but he's a really good player, one of
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: those guys like Mike Cann who played a long, illustrious
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: career for the Atlanta Falcons. And by the way, anybody
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: who thinks that Matthew Stafford is a Hall of Famer
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: after this game, they're crazy. What if he wins another one,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: then you can start talking a little bit about possibilities.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: But right now, no, really good, really good player, but no,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: considering where he was for all of his career. No,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: it's not, it's not. He was just asking we can
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: have this discussion in Canton in August to look, there
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: was a couple of years ago we're watching Matthew Stafford
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: going what's wrong with him? Okay, So sometimes it's not
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: always about those that are around you. Sometimes it's about you.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: You know you, uh, you point the finger at somebody,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: three fingers come pointing back towards you at the if
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: you're onfense, could be pointing back at the quarterback pointing fingers. Okay.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Dante Fowler cut by the foul Plkins. One year remained
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: on his contract. He took a pay cut last year
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: as part of a reconfigured contract and did not hit
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: any incentives in the deal. He played fourteen games, six starts,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: only had four and a half sacks. He had a
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: million dollar bonus starting at five sacks. He was a
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: half sack away from a million bucks. The Falcons were
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: lasting the league in sacks only eighteen as a team,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: and Fowler led the team. Um there, you know Dante
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Fowler on the street. Now, well he gets a little
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: head start on free agency. And uh, I think part
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: of the problem that why Dante hasn't been able to
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: stick in one place. First of all, when he was
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: with the Rams, he was playing alongside Aaron Donald. That helps,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: and by the way, that helps, But the consistency in
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: his performance hasn't always been there. And that's that's something
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: that is I think of concern to some people. He's uh,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: he's been, He was and is an incredible athlete, one
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: of the most gifted athletes I've ever seen, but the
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: productivity hasn't been consistent enough with Dante Fowler and another
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: high Jaguars draft pick that wasn't able to contribute to
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: this organization. And that's the disappointing part when you talk
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: about Donte Fowler one in a long list of former
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: first you just want to start having draft picks that
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: stay here for a long period of time and then
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: are really good football players and that that do a
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: lot of winning. It would be nice, good to see you,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: a lot for good to be seen. We'll talk to
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: you next week. Joe Fortunado, Brent Reeber, our entire crew
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: for Jeff Logging, and I'm J P. Shadrick. This is
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.