Latest / Anchored by the Sword / Running Toward Healing: Willow Weston on Colliding With Jesus in Our Pain!
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- 0:00Thank you for joining me on this episode of the Anchor by the
- 0:02Sword podcast. I pray that today's episode will
- 0:05leave you encouraged and also challenged in your faith.
- 0:08And I pray that. You would take.
- 0:11The stories that are talked about here today and share them
- 0:16with other people. Thank you so much for joining me
- 0:19and enjoy today's episode. Hey guys, welcome to this
- 0:24episode, the Anchor by the Sword podcast.
- 0:25I am here today with Willow Weston.
- 0:28She had a book come out today, March 10th, that's called
- 0:32collide, running into healing when life hands you hurt.
- 0:36So I can't wait to hear her story, more about her, the book
- 0:40and just all of the things. Willow, thank you for joining me
- 0:42today. Thanks for having me on, Gina.
- 0:45Absolutely. And I will say that of all the
- 0:48episodes I've had, you're the very first Willow to be on my
- 0:51podcast. I bet I don't hear that name a
- 0:55lot, at least not growing up, but it seems like there are some
- 0:59people who are starting to name their kids Willow.
- 1:01I'm starting to see a little bit of that.
- 1:04That's awesome. I know what with my name, Gina,
- 1:06when I was in school, in middle school, there was a Gina that
- 1:10was spelled JEANAA, Gina GENA, and then me Gina.
- 1:17And it was really weird. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:21I think that I think all the parents at that time watched the
- 1:23soap opera because that's where the name came from.
- 1:26Oh really? Which soap opera it was?
- 1:28General Hospital, I believe it was a character Gina was on
- 1:32there because my name was going to be Mandy Lynn because my mom
- 1:35loved Barry Manilow. Oh, gotcha.
- 1:41Cool. I love it.
- 1:43Well, are you glad you're Gina and not Mandy Lynn?
- 1:45I am. Do you wish you were Mandy Lynn?
- 1:47No, I'm good with Gina. Cool.
- 1:50I'm good. I'm good with it.
- 1:51I was like, OK, I'm glad they watched the soap opera that day.
- 1:54Yeah, for sure. I used to hate my name as a kid,
- 1:57but now I've grown to like the uniqueness of it.
- 2:01But as a kid I wanted to be Christy and Jenny and all the
- 2:04kind of like trending names that all my friends had and.
- 2:08And now I'm like, no, like Willow's me.
- 2:11I'm good with it. Yeah, and I, I think growing up,
- 2:14we were all kind of like that where we wanted to have
- 2:16somebody, either somebody else's identity or somebody else's
- 2:19name, because I was the same way.
- 2:21I wanted to be a Jennifer or, you know, the very common names
- 2:25at that time back in the early 90s where, you know, they were,
- 2:30it was Jennifer, it was Michelle, Melissa, those were
- 2:33the names I wanted. But.
- 2:35Yeah, for sure. So can you tell my listeners a
- 2:39little bit about yourself? Yeah, I mean, heck, where to
- 2:42start? I am a wife.
- 2:45I've been married almost 30 years and which is crazy to say
- 2:49'cause I still feel like I'm I, I feel like I'm younger than 30,
- 2:53but I'm not. And I have two kiddos, young
- 2:59adults, so a 23 year old son and a 20 year old daughter.
- 3:03And I lead a ministry that that God started that I didn't try to
- 3:09start. And that's been in the works for
- 3:13almost probably 12 years. And it's called Collide.
- 3:18And I'm just now putting, as you mentioned, my book out.
- 3:21It's releasing on March 10th and today.
- 3:24And so I'm, I'm super excited to see what the Lord does with this
- 3:29message and with this story and how he brings hope and healing
- 3:32to people who who read it. So that's a little bit about me.
- 3:36I'm sure I could tell you 1000 other things, but it hit me with
- 3:40all your questions. That's awesome.
- 3:44So what does it say on your cup collide?
- 3:48That's so cool. It actually, yeah, it actually
- 3:50matches my book. Yeah, it does.
- 3:52That's so cool. I love it.
- 3:54Thank you. So let's talk about your
- 3:57personal freedom journey. Yeah, I did not grow up in the
- 4:03church. I didn't grow up even hearing
- 4:07the gospel. I didn't know the story of
- 4:09Jesus. I was completely an irreligious
- 4:12kid. And there's so much to my story,
- 4:15and a lot of it is in my book. But grew up with a single mom
- 4:19and she was an alcoholic. And I actually had to move when
- 4:23I was 15 years old and a family across the state took me in and
- 4:29they left Jesus and they would tell me about him and I wanted
- 4:33nothing to do with him. And I had so much pain and so
- 4:37much hurt, and the pain in her were kind of coming out sideways
- 4:41and hurting my life and hurting other people's lives.
- 4:44And I went off to college and I started being crazy and partying
- 4:52and sleeping around and just finally kind of came to the end
- 4:56of myself where I couldn't go to class anymore.
- 5:00I was breaking down. I had 20 years of secrets and
- 5:04pain that I had never told anybody.
- 5:07And I didn't really want to be here anymore.
- 5:12I didn't feel I had a sense of purpose and the Lord used my
- 5:16landlord, which is absolutely crazy.
- 5:18She was what I considered this crazy Christian lady.
- 5:21And what made it made her crazy was that she was Christian.
- 5:24And she just invited me up into her home and would serve me
- 5:31coffee and lunch and invite me to her dinner table and to hang
- 5:36out with her kids. And she took me on errands and
- 5:38sat with me and asked me to share my story.
- 5:41And as I began to share my story, that was the first time
- 5:44that I really started opening up to someone about what I had gone
- 5:48through as a child. And she began to speak Jesus
- 5:52into my story. And it was almost like the Lord
- 5:56was picking up a needle and thread and just beginning to
- 5:59stitch me up using this woman named Cindy.
- 6:02And I ended up really starting to question, is there someone
- 6:08bigger than me? Is there a creator?
- 6:10Is there a divine being? Not even Jesus, Just like is
- 6:13there a God? And I began to experience him
- 6:17around every corner. And then I started looking at
- 6:21the life of Jesus. And Cindy and her husband Steve
- 6:23would have me to their small group and I would hear about how
- 6:28beautiful Jesus was. And one day I was with Cindy and
- 6:34a bunch of her church friends, which was crazy.
- 6:37I was in college and I would have never hung out with a bunch
- 6:40of Christian ladies. But because Cindy asked me, I
- 6:42said yes. And one of the ladies asked me
- 6:48what I was waiting for. Like, why?
- 6:50What was I waiting for as far as Jesus?
- 6:52And I, in that moment, I needed her to ask me that question
- 6:56because I realized I wasn't waiting for anything, that I
- 6:58wanted him and I wanted to give him my life.
- 7:01And in that room, I just remember raising my hands up and
- 7:04giving Jesus everything. My pain, my past, my present, my
- 7:09future, my body, my dreams, my heartache.
- 7:12And yeah, I surrendered my life to Jesus when I was 21 years
- 7:16old, and he just radically changed my life.
- 7:19I like to say he wrecked my life in a good way and totally turned
- 7:24it upside down. It was this crazy conversion and
- 7:29ever since then I have gotten such such a great privilege of
- 7:33being able to follow him and know him and grow in him and
- 7:37serve him and experience him. I love that so much.
- 7:42Thank you for sharing your story.
- 7:45I it's so funny when you were calling them crazy Christian
- 7:49ladies, I just thought that was so that was funny and that it
- 7:53was those crazy Christian ladies that are like calling you out
- 7:57and up. I love that.
- 8:00So how? I mean, Cindy, this woman was so
- 8:03bold. I think she she was also really
- 8:07real. She was hilarious.
- 8:09She had a sense of humor and she would joke around a lot.
- 8:12She was an amazing Hostess and so hospitable and so loving to
- 8:15me. And she became like family to
- 8:17me. And in that she, she really like
- 8:24because of who she was, I, I landed my ear to her.
- 8:28I would listen to what she had to say about Jesus because it
- 8:32was her, you know? So we do have opportunities as
- 8:36Christians, even if people think we're crazy, to be able to speak
- 8:41into people's lives and have influence when we love them and
- 8:44when we embrace them and bring them into our life and our
- 8:47family, we build a trust where we can speak into people's hurt
- 8:52and people's need. For Jesus, Absolutely.
- 8:55So how have you seen God? Use your story.
- 8:59Oh wow. Well, I mean, I think God,
- 9:04that's what God uses. God uses our story, uses our
- 9:06experiences. He uses our past, our pain, our
- 9:09our weaknesses, right. Like Scripture says, my power is
- 9:13made perfect in weakness, that it's actually me sharing my
- 9:17story of pain, my experience with neglect and abandonment,
- 9:21and my need for God. That's the story he's used to
- 9:28help bring healing to other people who are hurt, for sure.
- 9:31So that's how Collide started. I mean, the ministry I lead, it
- 9:35started out of a place of pain. And I just had this this
- 9:39epiphany that I was so wounded because I've collided with
- 9:43wounded parents and they wounded me and I was going to wound my
- 9:46kids and I needed healing. And this young girl asked me to
- 9:50mentor her. And I was like, I'm not really
- 9:53in the best place to mentor you. But if you want to look at the
- 9:55life of Jesus and how he collides with people in the New
- 9:57Testament, and when he does, they're left more whole than
- 10:00broken. Like I need him to heal me.
- 10:02If you want to come, we can. We can look at him together and
- 10:06she showed up with 25 friends and that has turned into a
- 10:12ministry where now we minister to thousands of women a year.
- 10:17But it really started out of a place of pain, and I think
- 10:20that's what God does. He purposes our pain and uses it
- 10:24to help bring healing to other people.
- 10:27Yeah, that's what he's done with this whole ministry as well with
- 10:30Anchored by the Sword. It started out as a ministry
- 10:32that came out of A13 week freedom journey that I had and
- 10:36then it progressed to the podcast, to a book and now to
- 10:40speaking. So, you know, it's, it's just
- 10:43that those steps that he just takes us to each next step to
- 10:46where he knows that our story can be used most effectively.
- 10:52Yeah, I think a lot of times as women, we and men do it too, but
- 10:57we think, I don't, I'm not like her.
- 11:01I don't have status, I don't have a platform.
- 11:04I don't have any special gifts. I'm, I'm not this.
- 11:08I'm not that. And we spend a lot of time
- 11:10thinking about what we don't have or what we're not.
- 11:13And I always think about the passage in Scripture in John 6
- 11:16where there's 5000 hangry people coming, you know, coming at
- 11:21Jesus and his disciples. And who does Jesus use?
- 11:27He uses what this little boy had, like this little boy, he
- 11:31had some bread and some fish, just like a little boy with his
- 11:36lunch. And I was just think God uses
- 11:39what you have. You don't have to go out and be
- 11:41someone else. You don't have to go out and get
- 11:43something else like God will use you right now with what you have
- 11:47right now. And sometimes all you have is
- 11:49grief. Sometimes all you have is a
- 11:52story of five miscarriages and no kid.
- 11:56Sometimes all you have is a dysfunctional family of origin
- 12:02and a hunger for Jesus, and those are the things that
- 12:04actually God can use. I think we think we have to go
- 12:08be super cool, but God actually uses our weaknesses for his like
- 12:14to show off his power. So I love that that's your
- 12:18story, Gina, that that's how God has been growing and building
- 12:22the ministry that you're a part of.
- 12:25And it rings so true to the Jesus that I've experienced too.
- 12:29Amen. Absolutely.
- 12:30So when you were thinking about the book, what what made you
- 12:37write it? And also what made you know that
- 12:39this was the time to bring it out?
- 12:43I've known that I was supposed to write this book for, jeez, so
- 12:48long, probably 20 years, if if not longer.
- 12:52But I think there's an element to it that I knew I was supposed
- 12:57to write it, but there was also parts of the story that I still
- 13:02hadn't lived yet, and I didn't know that at the time.
- 13:05When the Lord gave me the vision for the book, He told me to show
- 13:08up to the blank pages. I did.
- 13:10I showed up to the blank pages. And that's all any of us can do
- 13:13if God gives us a vision of what he's calling us to.
- 13:19We have to just show up little by little when we can be
- 13:23faithful to the vision, even when it's not a reality.
- 13:26But there was a huge part of this book where there were so
- 13:29many things that he wanted me to experience that I hadn't yet
- 13:33experienced. I mean, when I first started on
- 13:36the book. And so now it's had like 25
- 13:38different reiterations, but you know, there are family members
- 13:44that are now no longer here that were here.
- 13:47There were people who hurt me as a child that I hadn't forgiven
- 13:52yet. And I had to go through a
- 13:54forgiveness, real hard forgiveness process with.
- 13:57There are things that triggered past wounds and I had to have
- 14:01those really hurtful experiences and go to therapy and then be
- 14:05able to talk about it. And so there definitely was an
- 14:08element of almost like dancing with Jesus to get here where he
- 14:12was like, OK, like you just experienced this and I want you
- 14:15to actually write about this pain and how I'm bringing
- 14:18healing to this in the next chapter.
- 14:20And so it's been, it's been a process with the Lord for sure.
- 14:27I love that and how you talk about that.
- 14:30It's just the next thing like how you're writing it out of a
- 14:33place of working through or you're healing and not just word
- 14:38vomit on a page because that could be.
- 14:40And I mean when we're when we're writing or when we're speaking
- 14:43and stuff, if we are not healed in that area, then it just, you
- 14:49know, it can actually be a detriment to other people.
- 14:52But walking through it and writing it from a place of
- 14:56healing and, you know, doing the work, it just shows that, you
- 15:01know, therapy is needed and shouldn't be looked down upon,
- 15:05and also that the continuing process of the fact that we're
- 15:10healed and we're healing. Well, I'm definitely still
- 15:14healing. I mean, I think I'll always be
- 15:16in process on this side of the perfect place.
- 15:18But you know, I think that's part of the message of the book
- 15:22is God invites us to say yes to the healing that we long for and
- 15:29that he wants to do in our life, and we actually have to
- 15:31participate. And it might be that there's
- 15:34something coming up for you today and that's your best, yes.
- 15:38Like what's this pain that's coming out sideways in my life
- 15:41or in a relationship today and being able to go, I want to heal
- 15:45that, Lord, and I want you to heal that.
- 15:47And So what do I need to do to participate?
- 15:50But then also we might work through that and then something
- 15:53else comes up in three months and it's now it's almost like I
- 15:58sort of liken it to letting got into all the messy rooms of our
- 16:03house. And I think a lot of us let him
- 16:05into like the living room, like, oh, the living rooms kind of
- 16:08cleaned up, but we maybe don't let him into like the bedroom or
- 16:13that catch all room that we throw all our junk in or
- 16:16whatever. And God wants to come in and
- 16:20heal every space in US, every part in US, the parts that are
- 16:24bitter, the parts that are bleeding out, the parts that are
- 16:28making us do weird things in relationships.
- 16:30He wants to get into all those spaces, but it's really hard.
- 16:34I think we think he's going to wave a magic wand and heal the
- 16:37whole thing. But I, I actually think the way
- 16:40he works is he wants to not flood us and overwhelm us with,
- 16:44oh man, there's so much that needs to be healed.
- 16:46He wants to start with something and we get to participate in
- 16:50that. And then maybe he'll move into
- 16:51another room and invite us into it and we get to say yes.
- 16:54And he's so gracious to us in the process.
- 16:59Yeah. And So what are some common
- 17:02misconceptions that healing and faith are addressed in your
- 17:07book? Well, I mean, one of them I just
- 17:09sort of spoke to, but I, I think about the, the man who's waiting
- 17:13at the waters and he's been waiting at the waters for so
- 17:17long. In the stirring waters, it was
- 17:19believed there was a superstition that the first
- 17:21person down to the stirring waters would be healed.
- 17:24And Jesus shows up on this guy scene.
- 17:26He's so stuck. He's he's so stuck.
- 17:29He just is hoping this one thing will heal him.
- 17:32And here's the healer standing right in front of him, and he
- 17:35doesn't once ask the healer to heal him.
- 17:38He's still putting his hope in the waters.
- 17:40And Jesus asked him this profound question.
- 17:43He says, do you want to get well?
- 17:47And the word want is the word thelo.
- 17:49And it actually doesn't mean that you just want it.
- 17:51It means that you press on to action.
- 17:54So you want it so much that you're willing to do the work.
- 17:57And you notice in this passage that Jesus actually asks the man
- 18:02to pick up his mat. And this is a guy who doesn't
- 18:04move. He's been stuck in this
- 18:07paralyzed position for years. And Jesus says, pick up your
- 18:11mat. Imagine this guy is probably
- 18:13like, duh. Did you not get the memo, Jesus?
- 18:16Like I'm the guy who doesn't move right?
- 18:19And Jesus is saying I want you to want your healing as much as
- 18:24you want me to want your healing, right?
- 18:27I think we pray and we ask God to heal us.
- 18:30It's kind of like, and I can use this as an example for myself,
- 18:33like, oh, I want to look so great in a bathing suit in July,
- 18:38but I'm like, you know, if I'm like eating nachos and like
- 18:45gorging on ice cream and gin and tonics every night, like I'm not
- 18:48participating in the thing I say I long for.
- 18:52And so I think we have a God who's like, hey, I want to help
- 18:57you get unstuck, but you have to participate.
- 19:01You can't just hope that you're going to wake up on a Wednesday
- 19:04and you're going to be healed. And so that's one of the things
- 19:08I tackle in the book. One of the other things is that
- 19:11we've all been taught how to deal with pain, whether we
- 19:14realized it or not. And a lot of the things that
- 19:17we've been taught are actually causing more pain.
- 19:20You know, we've been taught be strong, you know, pick yourself
- 19:24up by the bootstraps or someone slapped a Band-Aid on it and
- 19:28expected us to stop crying. Or people have told us, chin up,
- 19:32buttercup. And we knew that meant, you
- 19:34know, smile and act like you're not sad.
- 19:36Some of us have been told you have God, you're good, even
- 19:40though we don't feel good. And so a lot of our parents,
- 19:45teachers, coaches, mentors, spiritual influencers have sort
- 19:51of invited us to avoid pain, just kind of like move on from
- 19:55pain. But the truth is, is that we
- 19:56don't actually move on from pain.
- 19:59We move with pain unless God actually heals a pain.
- 20:03And it doesn't matter how big it is, it could be traumatic.
- 20:06It could be, you know, dealing with addiction or trauma in your
- 20:11childhood home, but it could also be something that we file
- 20:15away as small. It could be a passive aggressive
- 20:18comment. Our spouse continuing.
- 20:20Makes to us or a hurtful way a friend left us out last week and
- 20:24we can go oh I'm good I'm just going to sweep it under the rug
- 20:26I'll be fine. But what happens to little hurts
- 20:30if they're not healed? They layer and layer and layer.
- 20:34And next thing you know, we have serious bitterness in our
- 20:37marriage. We feel really isolated from our
- 20:40friends and we start acting really funky and weird in our
- 20:43friendships because we feel like our friends are leaving us out.
- 20:46And now we've started to develop a deep seated insecurity that
- 20:51falls on one that we already had.
- 20:53And so God wants to heal the big things and the small things, and
- 20:59he wants us to participate in that healing.
- 21:03And instead of avoiding pain, the case that I kind of make in
- 21:08this book is that actually instead of avoiding the pain and
- 21:12sin and mess and brokenness that we usually run from, we have to
- 21:16run towards it with Jesus in order to experience the hope and
- 21:21healing and transformation we long for.
- 21:23So that's asking people to do something that they've been told
- 21:27not to do, right? We've been told to run as far as
- 21:31we can away from pain. But when you look at Jesus in
- 21:33the New Testament, he runs right into pain all the time.
- 21:38He ran to the man with a shriveled hand.
- 21:40He meets the woman at the well who feels like she's so Dang
- 21:45thirsty and everything she turns to to quench her thirst keeps
- 21:49causing more and more thirst. He stands with the woman caught
- 21:52in the act of adultery. He.
- 21:54He, you know, eats with the outcast.
- 21:57He heals the blind like he he runs into the tombs where where
- 22:03the guy lives who's cutting himself and he's demon
- 22:05possessed. I mean, Jesus is literally out
- 22:08here chasing down pain. He doesn't avoid pain at all.
- 22:13And we are the biggest pain avoiders ever.
- 22:17Like, and we think that's going to make our pain go away.
- 22:20But the truth is, is avoidance of pain actually causes more
- 22:23pain. So what would you say to
- 22:27somebody who is listening right now and they're thinking about
- 22:32all the things that they've been through and thinking about how
- 22:36much they've avoided it and not wanted to address it, but
- 22:39they're starting to feel tugged that they need to?
- 22:45Oh man, it's so hard because if you've experienced hurt, you're
- 22:50afraid to go there because you feel like it's going to hurt
- 22:54even more. And I totally understand.
- 22:56I totally understand that feeling.
- 22:59But if you don't get healing, your unresolved pain is going to
- 23:04wreak havoc on your life. It's going to it's going to be
- 23:06passed down to your kids. They're going to inherit your
- 23:09pain and pass it on to their kids.
- 23:11Your pain and your hurt is going to wreck your dreams that you
- 23:15have for your life. It's actually going to have
- 23:17consequences to your physical body.
- 23:19There's so many things that unresolved pain can do.
- 23:25And I think Jesus shows up today and just like the man with the
- 23:30shriveled hand that I mentioned a little while ago, Jesus showed
- 23:34up to that guy on the Sabbath. And on the Sabbath, you weren't
- 23:38allowed to even carry anything as much as two figs.
- 23:41Like you weren't allowed to do anything.
- 23:42You couldn't shop, you couldn't have sex with your spouse, you
- 23:45couldn't lift anything. So actually just even stretching
- 23:50was like you would be pummeled for that.
- 23:53And it was believed in those times that if if you were
- 23:57attacked on the Sabbath, you weren't even supposed to defend
- 24:00yourself. You're just supposed to let you
- 24:01and your family die. Like that's how intense some of
- 24:04the Sabbath rules that were added.
- 24:06The man made rules were added that made it so extreme.
- 24:09So Jesus saying to this man who has a shriveled hand, stretch
- 24:13your hand. This guy has every reason to
- 24:16push restoration off. And Jesus is asking him to do it
- 24:22and knowing that it's going to have consequences for the man
- 24:24and for himself. And actually we see that by
- 24:30Jesus when the man reaches out and stretches his hand.
- 24:33And I think in, in a lot of ways Jesus is asking us, he's saying
- 24:37you are worthy of healing today. I don't want to put it off.
- 24:41Yes, I could put it off and do it tomorrow.
- 24:43It's just a shriveled hand. And we say that about a lot of
- 24:46things. It's just a little fight.
- 24:48It's just a pill. It's just diabetes.
- 24:50Whatever we we sort of minimize our pain.
- 24:54It's just a shriveled hand until it's a shriveled capacity or
- 24:57shriveled self esteem. And Jesus is like, no, I want
- 25:01you to stretch towards me right now.
- 25:04And we're going to heal this today.
- 25:06You see, in scripture, the man stretches his hand towards Jesus
- 25:09and it was fully restored. And Scripture says that that
- 25:13actually caused the religious zealots to set out to kill
- 25:19Jesus. And Jesus knew, he knew that by
- 25:22healing this man and by saying you're worthy of healing today,
- 25:26that that would actually cause him pain.
- 25:28And he did it anyways. And so if your Lord would
- 25:33literally say you healing is worth the risk of me dying, then
- 25:40why are you putting off to tomorrow what God wants to do in
- 25:43your life today? You keep rain checking your
- 25:45restoration. I think we have a God who loves
- 25:48us so much. He's like, do not rain check
- 25:50your own healing, big or small. Say yes, right now, right here,
- 25:55today. Amen, Amen.
- 25:58That is so good. And oh gosh, I just, I just love
- 26:02it because, you know, just brings me back to my own journey
- 26:07and the journey I continue to be on.
- 26:08And as we all are, like you said, on the side of heaven.
- 26:11And just to make you think that, you know, it starts with one
- 26:15step. It starts with the saying yes,
- 26:19and then between you and God, figuring out what that next step
- 26:22looks like. And we've talked so much on this
- 26:27podcast about mental health issues because it's a big issue
- 26:32in my family, both personally and with the women in my family.
- 26:37And just how much therapy has has helped in the past.
- 26:43And, you know, acknowledging that you are not good and that
- 26:50it's OK to acknowledge that you're not good at this point,
- 26:53that there's something going on in that you need help.
- 26:56So I think that's so important for anyone out there today who's
- 26:59listening to this podcast that the things that Willow was
- 27:02saying and the things that I've said is so true that you don't
- 27:06want to continue living in a place of pain.
- 27:10Because when you live in a place of pain, you can't go forward
- 27:14and start with a trusted person. You know, you find that that
- 27:20person that you can talk to about the stuff that's going on,
- 27:23like how you found Cindy and you go from there and see see where
- 27:27God's going to take you because he's got such a bigger plan for
- 27:30you than what you're going through right now.
- 27:34He wants to use it. Absolutely.
- 27:37And I think if there's someone listening who doesn't have a
- 27:40trusted person, that's where calling a doctor is a good first
- 27:46step. Calling a therapist is a good
- 27:48first step. Calling your pastor, you know,
- 27:53sometimes people feel like, well, I don't have any good
- 27:56friends right now, or I move to a new city and you know, where
- 28:00would I start? And I think there's always a
- 28:02place to start. There's always a space, A next
- 28:05step you can take. When God says move, he's asking
- 28:10you. When he says stretch, he's
- 28:11asking you to take a risk for your own healing.
- 28:15Yeah, absolutely. I know one thing for me was
- 28:21girlfriends when I was younger girls were girls were rough like
- 28:28in middle school and stuff like caddy and vicious like middle
- 28:33school was not fun. I don't think for most people
- 28:36middle school has been fun and now I'm mentoring 6th grade
- 28:39girls so here we go. But it took a long time to have
- 28:45girlfriends that I could trust and then I lost one.
- 28:50She betrayed me and we've since reconciled, but in doing so, God
- 28:56has blessed me with so many good girlfriends, including like 4
- 29:01that are my ride or dies. And it was so hard.
- 29:04It's so hard to be that vulnerable with people,
- 29:08especially when you've been hurt in the past.
- 29:11And that goes for anybody that's hurt you, whether it's a church
- 29:13person, whether it's a family member or whether it's a friend,
- 29:16spouse, whatever that it, it's really hard, Yeah.
- 29:20Yeah, I mean, it's crazy because people hurt us.
- 29:25And what's wild is that God actually uses people to heal us.
- 29:34And and that's a really interesting idea.
- 29:37I mean, if you look at Galatians where it says the law of Christ
- 29:40is carrying each other's burdens, he's actually saying
- 29:43like the law of Christ isn't all the other things we make it to
- 29:46be going to church every week or the law of it doesn't say the
- 29:50law of Christ is reading your Bible every day.
- 29:52The law of Christ is, you know, journaling and prayer.
- 29:57The law of Christ is, I don't know, wearing a turtleneck and
- 30:01covering up your cleavage. Like the law of Christ,
- 30:03Scripture says, is to carry each other's burdens.
- 30:07And that also means that you have to let other people carry
- 30:09yours. And that's a fascinating idea
- 30:13because a lot of our burdens were caused by people.
- 30:17Now you want me to let people carry, carry me to you.
- 30:22But if you look at the the story in the New Testament where Jesus
- 30:26collides, he's at, he's at a house party.
- 30:29The house is completely full. And you see these four friends,
- 30:31they're carrying a guy and we don't know their relationship.
- 30:35We don't know if they're acquaintances.
- 30:36We don't know if they were strangers.
- 30:38We don't know if they're friends.
- 30:39But these four guys carry this guy who's not OK.
- 30:43He clearly allowed them to carry him, recognizing himself that
- 30:48he's not OK and that he needed someone bigger than himself.
- 30:51And his friends carry him to the house party where Jesus is
- 30:55because they think Jesus can do something about it.
- 30:58And they can't get in because the party is so packed.
- 31:01And scripture says they unroof the roof.
- 31:04Like that's crazy. Like they climb up, they unroof
- 31:06the roof. Most of us would be like, oh,
- 31:08this isn't going to work out. You know, they unroof the roof
- 31:12and they drop this guy down and below in front of Jesus at this
- 31:17party, and Jesus stops in the middle of the party for this
- 31:20guy. And I think it's so fascinating
- 31:23because Scripture says Jesus saw their faith, not just the faith
- 31:30of the four guys that carried him.
- 31:31It does take faith to carry people who are heavy burdens.
- 31:35It takes faith to walk them to Jesus.
- 31:37It takes faith to feed them and care for them and pray for them
- 31:41and listen to their story when they need to process over and
- 31:44over again. All those things take faith.
- 31:47But Jesus saw also the faith that it took to allow other
- 31:53people to carry him and lower him down and be exposed in this
- 31:58vulnerable moment that takes faith to go, you know what?
- 32:02I do need Jesus and I, if it means people carrying me to him
- 32:07till, till I can get to him and he can, he can heal me, that's
- 32:12going to take incredible faith. So they all had faith, both the
- 32:16burden carriers and the one who is being carried.
- 32:20And that's wild because a lot of us have been so hurt.
- 32:24We don't want to be dropped again.
- 32:28We don't want to be hurt again. You don't, you don't want to
- 32:32make a new girlfriend and then feel betrayed again like you
- 32:36were before. And so a lot of times we self
- 32:39protect because we don't know what else to do.
- 32:43So we we think I've been too hurt.
- 32:45So I'm going to go into self protection mode and what I found
- 32:48out, at least from my own experiences, a lot of the ways
- 32:52that I self protect actually create more harm than they do
- 32:56help me, especially in relationships.
- 32:59I think you're absolutely right that we have to find trusted
- 33:01people. And and I have a therapist
- 33:04friend and she taught me and I think it's so interesting.
- 33:07She goes test people out if you can trust them with your threes
- 33:11and your fours. Like on a scale of 1 to 10, if
- 33:14you can trust someone with your threes and fours, maybe you can
- 33:17try out what they do with one of your fives and your sixes.
- 33:20But don't go giving someone A9 and A10 when you don't know if
- 33:23you can trust them with your 3. So I think over time you kind of
- 33:28see, is someone trustworthy? Are they safe?
- 33:31Like if I share this, what do they do with that?
- 33:34And then, you know, you can eventually get to a place where
- 33:36like this person can carry me when I need to be carried and
- 33:40vice versa. That's so good.
- 33:43And that's, that's such a great way to put developing
- 33:48relationships because we need community, we need each other.
- 33:54And we were created for that. And I think that's definitely
- 33:59going to speak to someone today who's been self preserving and
- 34:05just trying to, you know, just protect themselves from other
- 34:10people, other people from even them.
- 34:13You know, they think that they're not worthy of it and
- 34:15that they have to keep themselves in a bubble so that
- 34:18that way other people aren't negatively affected by them.
- 34:22And so today's the day to start that journey.
- 34:28Absolutely. So just a couple quick questions
- 34:31and ending. What Bible verse or verses help
- 34:34to keep you anchored? Well, I, you mentioned you were
- 34:38going to ask me that and I'm not, I'm not one of these chicks
- 34:42that's like, I have a favorite verse.
- 34:44Like I just absolutely love the Bible.
- 34:46I absolutely love God and who he's been throughout history
- 34:52with humanity in the Bible. And there's just, I mean, I just
- 34:56eat up the whole story And I love that we have a father who
- 35:00comes and he sees how hurt we are and he just is all out on a
- 35:07reckless love pursuit to rescue us and, and he lays down his own
- 35:13life to show us how love we are. I just love the whole story.
- 35:16But in Deuteronomy 3330 verse 3, and I don't think I have the
- 35:24right version open right now, but I love it so much.
- 35:28The Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have
- 35:30compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where
- 35:34you've been scattered. Even if you've been banished,
- 35:36the most distant land under the heavens, From there the Lord
- 35:39your God will gather you and bring you back.
- 35:41He will bring you to the land that belong to your ancestors
- 35:44and you will take possession of it.
- 35:46He will make you more prosperous and numerous than your
- 35:48ancestors. On it goes.
- 35:51It just talks about this idea that like in the ways that you
- 35:56have been scattered and broken, He will restore you back to
- 36:01full. And that's been such a hopeful,
- 36:04hopeful verse for me with the pain I experienced as a child
- 36:10and in my family and just how good the Lord has been to me and
- 36:14how he's built a beautiful life and a redeemed life and a, and I
- 36:20have family now, a beautiful family.
- 36:24And I'm just so, I'm so grateful that God is so good.
- 36:29Amen. Amen.
- 36:31So, Willow, where can people find you and where can they get
- 36:34copies of your book? Yeah, totally.
- 36:37Well, I would love to follow along with people and also if
- 36:41you need to process or you need ideas on what a next step might
- 36:45be for you in the midst of you wanted to say yes to healing.
- 36:51I'm always available to chat on Instagram.
- 36:54You can message me. I'm at I'm on there at Willow in
- 36:57Weston and then you can grab my book at most places.
- 37:01Books are sold on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, or you can head to my
- 37:06website at Willow weston.com. That's how some I'll put links
- 37:11to all of that in today's show notes.
- 37:13What is the last piece of encouragement for someone today?
- 37:20No matter how big or small your hurt feels, you're worthy of
- 37:27healing today. Amen.
- 37:30Absolutely. Thank you so much, Willow, for
- 37:32joining me today. You guys go out and get yourself
- 37:35a copy of Collide. Get it for your friends.
- 37:39Just share it around because it's something that we all need
- 37:42today is to learn how to walk into our healing and not run
- 37:48away from our pain. So I will talk to you guys next
- 37:51episode. Have a great rest of the day.
- 37:54Thank you so much for joining me for this episode, the Anchor by
- 37:57the Sword podcast. I pray that the story that you
- 37:59heard today will encourage your faith, challenge your faith, and
- 38:03also help you as you walk in your daily life.
- 38:07If this episode has done that, please feel free to leave a five
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- 38:14that others can find it and grow as well.
- 38:17Have a blessed week and I'll talk to you next episode.