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Jags Drive Time: Monday, September 16 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Who's such It
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Speaker 1: picks up the black Pepper Jaguars and Fitness Steelers. Unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: Jack Warris, did you know, Jack, Jack Warris? Did you
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Speaker 1: know Jackuarris? Drive time right and sex steps that John? Oh? Jack? Actually,
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Speaker 1: Jack Warris, drive time starts right now. Because that's the
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Speaker 1: team you want to be. We don't wanna, you know,
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Speaker 1: play as safe. You want to go get the win.
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Speaker 1: And you know even after the call, uh, and you
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Speaker 1: know the way it turned out. No, I still believe that,
0:45
Speaker 1: Like my I said, I believe that was a touchdown. Uh.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm arrived from my team, my coaches and
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Speaker 1: Leonard and I think we got that DJ chart in
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Speaker 1: most of the locker rooms. C need to agree with
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Speaker 1: the the two point conversion. As we are back in
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Speaker 1: Jackson after our thirteen to twelve loss to the Houston Texans,
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Speaker 1: it was an emotional game. I feel like attacked on
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Speaker 1: ten years of my life. It was up and down
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Speaker 1: and up and down. Unfortunately, come home with the loss
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Speaker 1: after a very very close game makes it great White
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Speaker 1: people watch and have the ending that they have. I've
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Speaker 1: got some energy for this team this movie, and I
1:20
Speaker 1: wasn't sure yesterday that we would today. But the way
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Speaker 1: that the defense played and poorly relate sensational and the
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Speaker 1: way that Gardner Minshoe's do it at the end of
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Speaker 1: the game, I'm excited for Thursday Night went two is
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Speaker 1: not the end of this season, not by a long shot.
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Speaker 1: Nobody out there thought we're they're gonna go fourteen and
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Speaker 1: two this year, right, um. I like what They're a
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Speaker 1: game behind in the division. There's an opportunity here for
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Speaker 1: them to get up stand on their feet. I'm energized
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Speaker 1: by a lot of what I saw yesterday. Something draining
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Speaker 1: on me, and we'll get to that in a minute,
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Speaker 1: but but I'm energized by a lot of it. First
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Speaker 1: of all, let's hope it didn't take ten years of
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Speaker 1: our life, Brian, because otherwise we're she has plenty of
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Speaker 1: time play that game. Us. Um uh, I agree with you.
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Speaker 1: I thought going into this, and I still kind of think,
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Speaker 1: oh N two is a tough hole to climb out of.
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Speaker 1: So I called it it must win. I still feel like, boy,
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Speaker 1: wouldn't you feel so much better one or one? So
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Speaker 1: much different than know in two? In this league? So
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Speaker 1: I get that. But to your point, if if the
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Speaker 1: jag Wars had to lose, the one thing you could
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Speaker 1: take from it was you had to see the defense
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Speaker 1: play well enough to think maybe they can hit a
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Speaker 1: stretch where they can carry it for three out of four,
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Speaker 1: which is what a defense sometimes can do. And with
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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, I didn't like some of the things I
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Speaker 1: saw early because it looked like they were having to
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Speaker 1: protect him, which makes sense because he's a rookie. But
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Speaker 1: that last those last two drives in the fourth quarter, Um,
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Speaker 1: you don't fake that. You don't cover that stuff. That's
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Speaker 1: not you know, the other team can't come out and say, well,
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Speaker 1: we were playing bad. We were two drives, ten points
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, last what eight minutes? Uh against the defensive
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Speaker 1: I don't think is what it was two or three
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Speaker 1: years ago. But it's not bad that was but uh,
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Speaker 1: they had held you the whole game and then all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden they didn't. And there was some stuff
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Speaker 1: we can get into it later with Gardner, but there
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Speaker 1: are some things he does with his eyes, pocket awareness,
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Speaker 1: feel for the game. When he takes two steps one
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Speaker 1: way and there's the defense is going to go this way,
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's gonna be somebody open. Uh,
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Speaker 1: it's instinctive football stuff and he's got absolutely all right,
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Speaker 1: let's get right into big things with that big thing
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Speaker 1: one is two points, the two point conversion. When it works,
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Speaker 1: everyone loves it. When it doesn't work, everyone critiques it.
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Speaker 1: But regardless of the play called, the locker room seems
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Speaker 1: to agree with it. And Gardner Minshu explained why they
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Speaker 1: went for two. Yeah. Absolutely, we felt really good about
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Speaker 1: the call. Um you know, had the right look. Leonard
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Speaker 1: was close on the field. I thought he got it. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, but that's how it goes sometimes. Uh you know,
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Speaker 1: I bet you know, ten times out of ten for
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Speaker 1: him right there to get in there. Speaking of Gardner Minshew,
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Speaker 1: big thing too is NFL quarterback. Of course, we're talking
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Speaker 1: about Gardner Minshew there finished the game with more yards
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Speaker 1: than the Shawn Watson two thirteen yards twenty three of
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Speaker 1: thirty three. Right now, his completion percentage is third best
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Speaker 1: in the league. Done Rowan is confident he'll play in
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Speaker 1: this league for a long time. And then you know,
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Speaker 1: in that last drive, I mean, you know, you can
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Speaker 1: see the poise that the kid has and we was
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Speaker 1: able to go down the field and score. He's never
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Speaker 1: tell you guys before. He's not not a guy that
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Speaker 1: gets rattled. He's he's fine on the sideline. He understands,
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Speaker 1: you know, what we're trying to get accomplished, um and
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Speaker 1: what we want to do. So I couldn't gonna be
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Speaker 1: happier with him. And finally, big thing three is the defense.
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Speaker 1: They played lights out despite some drama on the bench,
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Speaker 1: which we'll get too later. They held a very good
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Speaker 1: offense to thirteen points. However, Klais Campbell said, it's not
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Speaker 1: good enough. I mean, it wasn't good enough to win,
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Speaker 1: you know, And that's that's what it really comes down to.
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Speaker 1: You know. Uh, you know, there are a lot of
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Speaker 1: players out there that we can get. You know that
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Speaker 1: we could have made it that would have, you know,
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Speaker 1: put us in better position to win the game. So
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going, you know, feel like this
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Speaker 1: was good enough because it wasn't, you know. But at
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Speaker 1: the same time, you know, we're going we're turning in
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Speaker 1: the right direction. We're going to you know, we're getting better,
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Speaker 1: you know, and and if we play the way we're
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Speaker 1: capable of playing, we're gonna want a lot of ball games,
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Speaker 1: you know, just take you down to take it, you know,
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Speaker 1: one play out of time. All right, guys, let's go
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Speaker 1: all the way back up to big things on because
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Speaker 1: it's what everyone is talking about, that two point conversion
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Speaker 1: going for it. Everyone seems to like the play call.
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Speaker 1: Kind of a doubt of whether you take it out
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Speaker 1: of gardnerment shoose hands right there and give it to Fortnite,
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Speaker 1: But everyone likes the aggressive. They didn't take it out
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Speaker 1: of his hands. See, it was an RPO that was called.
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Speaker 1: And I talked to John D. Philippo last night as
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Speaker 1: we were getting on the airplane and Flip said, look,
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Speaker 1: there were three options. He runs it, he runs it
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Speaker 1: and throws it, he runs or hands it off to
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Speaker 1: for net and four Nette runs it. They made the
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Speaker 1: decision based on the coverage average, said man in man coverage,
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Speaker 1: give it to running back and he goes in it.
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Speaker 1: I even wrote this that I wanted to see it
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Speaker 1: in Minshew's hand. But in talking to people last night
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Speaker 1: the plane, it was they had options on it. They
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Speaker 1: went with the option. They studied the film, They know
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Speaker 1: the odds. They went with what they thought was their
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Speaker 1: best option. There. Yeah, nobody will ever believe that because
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Speaker 1: it's too common, it's too complicated to explain on Twitter.
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Speaker 1: But I mean I get that another one. Twitter should
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Speaker 1: not be the name name to the people learned about football.
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Speaker 1: But that's but the reality this would be second guest
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Speaker 1: because everybody said, well, they put it in Fournette's hands.
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Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, and I clearly agree with it.
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Speaker 1: I didn't really, I didn't have a problem. Even if
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Speaker 1: you had just gone to four net and they had
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Speaker 1: called the play pre play and done it. I would
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Speaker 1: have had a problem with it. You know why, because
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Speaker 1: he has been very, very good in two NFL seasons
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Speaker 1: in short yardage. It gets lost. I get that. It
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Speaker 1: was a good I mean the ball was in his
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Speaker 1: left hand, and you see that piece of video that
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Speaker 1: we just ran. There, you see the elbow extand out.
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Speaker 1: Now you don't see the ball. That's although man. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Norwell's right there on a knee as the as the
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Speaker 1: arm goes out. He saw that happen. I get it.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't definitive enough. It wasn't a good enough result. Um,
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Speaker 1: I thought, live he guy Anna. I thought when I
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Speaker 1: looked back last night, when I was seeing it on
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Speaker 1: TV that I could see why if it was made
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Speaker 1: that call, but I didn't have a problem with even
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Speaker 1: just giving it to him. He has scored fourteen touchdowns
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Speaker 1: in his career, uh a lot of one short yardage
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Speaker 1: if he's had a strength, he is one of the
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Speaker 1: best short yardage running backs in the league. If people
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Speaker 1: don't want to hear that because it didn't work, but
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Speaker 1: there was nothing wrong with giving it to the Leonard
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Speaker 1: fournand on that. A lot of people this morning at
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Speaker 1: the gym. You know, why didn't they just kick it?
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Speaker 1: You mean, play save right, still what I would have done,
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Speaker 1: but within the context of it, because they were out
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Speaker 1: playing in the fourth quarter, you can make the case yet,
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Speaker 1: except that they had some momentum going. And this is
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Speaker 1: a team that doesn't want to play scared. I mean
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Speaker 1: DJ Charks said it afterwards, he said, that's the team
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Speaker 1: we want to be. I thought they had the right call,
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Speaker 1: and it looks like when it got in, I can't
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Speaker 1: second guess that this is not a play it safe team.
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Speaker 1: And the entire locker room, whoever you talked to you said,
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Speaker 1: absolutely want to go for it. Players always want to
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Speaker 1: go for it. And by the way, talking to some
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Speaker 1: of the analytics people, the analytics, they go for it. Now,
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Speaker 1: lets always say go for that situation because percentage wise,
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Speaker 1: picking up two yards in that situation on the road
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Speaker 1: and overtime, I think the percentage of like forty generally
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Speaker 1: that you went going for two in that situation, I
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Speaker 1: think it's I think it's Edwards is sixty. I would
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Speaker 1: have still kicked it, but I'm an old man here.
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Speaker 1: Had to get off the long Guyay it safe, guy.
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Speaker 1: I want to go to the defense. Um, they were sensational.
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Speaker 1: You're talking about an offense and did you see the
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Speaker 1: Monday night football game last week in New Orleans. They
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Speaker 1: were throwing the ball all over the place. And by
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Speaker 1: the way, that was not a bad Saints defense last year. Uh,
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Speaker 1: they were chucking it all over the place. They were
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Speaker 1: running the ball. Well. Um, I from my perspective to
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Speaker 1: hold him to thirteen points and by the way, that
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Speaker 1: was an eleven yard field in which Deshaun Watson scored
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Speaker 1: and gave them their only touchdown. They on six of
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Speaker 1: their first day positions. They put them on the sideline
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Speaker 1: and forced upon they did enough to win, and they
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Speaker 1: pressured Watson. I'm gonna take a shot at Jalen Ramsey
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Speaker 1: here coming up in a couple of minutes. So I'm
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Speaker 1: going to give him all the praise he deserves. That
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Speaker 1: was an all pro performance, Deshaun not Shaun Watson. DeAndre
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Speaker 1: Hopkins a three yard catch, three yard catch, a seven
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Speaker 1: yard catch against Jalen Ramsey right, three catches thirteen yards.
9:36
Speaker 1: Miles Jack and Ronnie Harrison were covering him on the
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Speaker 1: other two three. DeAndre Hopkins toughest receiver to match up
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Speaker 1: with in the league. You heard Jalen say it last week.
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Speaker 1: He's damn near unguardable. You have him covered and he's
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Speaker 1: still makes those plays. He was an absolute non factor.
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Speaker 1: I thought that was the reason DeShawn Watson was only average.
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Speaker 1: Minshew had a better day than he did. Um I
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Speaker 1: phenomenal performance. I had said, I wrote last week that
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Speaker 1: if he gives you that kind of a performance, you
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Speaker 1: have a chance to win. You should win. They had
10:08
Speaker 1: a chance to win. They should have won. UM, it's
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Speaker 1: not surprising all pro performance. Back up the brinks truck.
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Speaker 1: If he does that every week, that is the best
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Speaker 1: single defensive performance by an individual in Jaguars history. I
10:21
Speaker 1: can name all the others that would be in consideration.
10:23
Speaker 1: Tony Brackens at Three River Stadium in you were there, Uh,
10:27
Speaker 1: Tony Brackens, there's must Tony Brackens. Tony Brackens in Baltimore.
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Speaker 1: I'll still take that one. But because because it was
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Speaker 1: Mono Imano against the best receiver in football and he
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Speaker 1: shut him out completely, jaguarys read the book correctly. The
10:44
Speaker 1: book onto Shawn Watson is that if you shut down
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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, Uh, there's a big question on what happens
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Speaker 1: outside of that dynamic. And Jalen shut him down. And
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Speaker 1: the the only thing the defense didn't do is what
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Speaker 1: I thought they had to do last week. I thought
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Speaker 1: for the Jaguar is to win this game, the defense
11:01
Speaker 1: had to score and create points. They had the ball
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Speaker 1: on the ground. It's a lot Jalen had in his
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Speaker 1: hands in his hands right recovering fumbles, it is a
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Speaker 1: lot luck. But if Jalen, if if if, if Jalen
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Speaker 1: gets that pick, and if they recover that fumble, that's
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Speaker 1: probably ten points it creates. It's a different game and
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Speaker 1: they win. And they were talking about this heroic defense
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Speaker 1: that they were I would argue it's as good a
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Speaker 1: defensive performances as this team has had in this era,
11:27
Speaker 1: which started in two thousand and seventeen. It rivals what
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Speaker 1: they did against the Colts last year. It was a
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Speaker 1: really strong thing form and Brian you can attest standing
11:34
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. You could see, probably like when the
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Speaker 1: third quarter hit, Hopkins getting frustrated because he just and
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Speaker 1: and the chaos that came with the skirmish on the
11:48
Speaker 1: sideline that Jalen was largely responsible for. It says a
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Speaker 1: lot about this this defense, and about Doug and about
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Speaker 1: Jalen that they tightened it back down, right, Because at
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Speaker 1: that moment I turned to you and I said, the
11:59
Speaker 1: ship is sinking fast right back to back weeks, star
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Speaker 1: performers losing their mind. And he dialed it back in
12:07
Speaker 1: and went back out on the field and an overly
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Speaker 1: emotional jail and could have easily allowed Popkins to take
12:13
Speaker 1: advantage of him, but he dialed it back down. It
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Speaker 1: does not excuse it. It does not excuse it. And
12:18
Speaker 1: I have something to say about that in hot takes.
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Speaker 1: But I was impressed with the way that they brought
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Speaker 1: it back together because at that moment, I thought, man,
12:25
Speaker 1: it's over. You can't recover from what I saw on
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Speaker 1: that sideline yesterday. No, I thought you're gonna lose the
12:31
Speaker 1: game now because everyone was so dialed up about what
12:33
Speaker 1: you saw on TV. What you think you've heard from Twitter?
12:36
Speaker 1: I was standing right there. You don't know all of it,
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Speaker 1: You don't. It was awful. Yeah, it wasn't good one
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Speaker 1: and good look for sure. All right, let's go. Twitter
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Speaker 1: can't do that now. Twitter cannot some now they weren't
12:48
Speaker 1: because you all weren't down there. Now, that's quite the
12:50
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12:52
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Speaker 1: we get into some highlights of that one point loss
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Speaker 1: in Houston, all the highlights don't come till the fourth quarter,
14:50
Speaker 1: but let's start in the second quarter when you see
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Speaker 1: that defense start. You get to Shaun Watson, defense getting
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Speaker 1: after him, and you start feeling the momentum shift after
14:58
Speaker 1: this starts to happen. Second down and seventh shirt comming,
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Speaker 1: Watson stays at his feet, now goes down files Jack
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Speaker 1: and Leon Jacobs press shirt coming. Watson hit hard. It
15:13
Speaker 1: was DJ coming out of that second sack that DJ
15:19
Speaker 1: Hayden got to him. That was a hit. I mean
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Speaker 1: you saw him go way back with that one well
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Speaker 1: and and look they hit him a bunch. Um Davin Bryan,
15:27
Speaker 1: who was the Pinata of of the month of August,
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Speaker 1: laid him out on hit uh and when he threw
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Speaker 1: it was the fourteen yard completion to um DeAndre Hopkins
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Speaker 1: on the first play of the third quarter, And I
15:40
Speaker 1: mean he planted him legally hard into the ground and
15:43
Speaker 1: he got after him a couple of times too. The
15:45
Speaker 1: pass rush was there, they chased him around. Watson is
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Speaker 1: a terrific athlete and he was able to get rid
15:50
Speaker 1: of the ball in some certain circumstances. But that defense
15:53
Speaker 1: did a great job of containing him and then hitting him.
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Speaker 1: We talked about it all week. They had to win
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Speaker 1: that matchup because you knew the offense of line for
16:00
Speaker 1: the Texans was struggling. If the pass rush wasn't wasn't there,
16:03
Speaker 1: they had no shot. But they were there on the path.
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Speaker 1: Early on, they were not as consistent rushing the pastor uh,
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Speaker 1: and it allowed a couple of things to get free. Um,
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Speaker 1: But they tightened it down in the second quarter on.
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Speaker 1: If the only disturbing thing I saw about the defense
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Speaker 1: was I thought early on there were way too many
16:21
Speaker 1: situations where they were in second and four because the
16:24
Speaker 1: Texans were able to run up the middle, and that
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Speaker 1: hurt for a while. It went, I've not hurting him
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Speaker 1: on the scoreboard, but I gotta get that tightened up.
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Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to the fourth quarter, because that's
16:35
Speaker 1: where things got interesting. Jags down by three second play
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Speaker 1: of the drive, and this was bound to happen because Gardnerman,
16:40
Speaker 1: she was getting a lot of pressure at this point
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Speaker 1: and shoes set comes out for the third time, Texans
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Speaker 1: indicating they have it. What has just in football. You
16:56
Speaker 1: talked about a momentum shift. I mean, that's the third
16:59
Speaker 1: time that the ball came out. They were lucky enough
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Speaker 1: to land on it the first two times. I thought,
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Speaker 1: if this happens again, it's a matter of time before
17:05
Speaker 1: the Texans were covered well. And we forget because Will
17:07
Speaker 1: Richardson did a nice job against Kansas City and did
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Speaker 1: a pretty good job in the game yesterday. That he's
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Speaker 1: a guard playing or a right side guard, right side
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Speaker 1: tackle playing on the left side, and Whitney Merciless, you know,
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Speaker 1: made him look silly on that particular play. And that
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Speaker 1: was the game, you know, up to that point, John
17:23
Speaker 1: I kept waiting for the rookie quarterback to hold the
17:26
Speaker 1: ball just long enough for the Texans to get there.
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Speaker 1: But a couple of times the first half, and and
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Speaker 1: he almost lost the ball a couple of times in
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Speaker 1: the first half. That's what the Texans do. That's what
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Speaker 1: you're scared of with a young quarterback under that pressure
17:38
Speaker 1: and um short field, and it's gotta be a thing
17:42
Speaker 1: he works SI. I think he's going to be in
17:44
Speaker 1: this league a long time, which I'll get too later.
17:46
Speaker 1: But hold it with two hands, ball security in the pocket,
17:50
Speaker 1: it was an issue. I think it was in the
17:51
Speaker 1: first preseason game. If Emory serves with the ball is
17:54
Speaker 1: out a lot out three times yesterday, Um, that's clearly
17:59
Speaker 1: a trend that he's got to fix. Uh. It doesn't
18:03
Speaker 1: mean he's not good or not could be able to play. Um,
18:06
Speaker 1: but that's gotta get fixed because you can't have the
18:08
Speaker 1: ball coming out of every time he's hit. What merciless
18:10
Speaker 1: and clowney when he's there. They have done that to
18:12
Speaker 1: the best of quarterback. So he's got to learn. No,
18:15
Speaker 1: it's definitely their talent that Texas's defensive front. All Right,
18:18
Speaker 1: you're down ten points at this point. You have to
18:20
Speaker 1: score on this drive to keep the game in grabs.
18:22
Speaker 1: And it's a very productive drive from the offense. You're
18:25
Speaker 1: setting wrong mid shoot down the sidelock looking deed, put
18:31
Speaker 1: a chusmin and a catch first and twenty so you
18:35
Speaker 1: wipe out the twenty nine yard flooded Jackson will also
18:38
Speaker 1: lost a thirty yard past play is four. Get so, guys,
18:43
Speaker 1: you can recall on this drive he first goes to
18:45
Speaker 1: Connolly on the right sideline and the next play makes
18:48
Speaker 1: a great throw and it looks like a great catch
18:50
Speaker 1: to dd Westbrook on the left sideline. He gets called
18:53
Speaker 1: for offensive pass interference. You gotta think if they make
18:56
Speaker 1: that catch, well, he does make that catch, but if
18:58
Speaker 1: that penalty he's not called, it's probably a different drive
19:00
Speaker 1: that leads to a touchdown. The key on the Connolly
19:02
Speaker 1: was it was third and long, right, I mean, the
19:04
Speaker 1: drive ends there and all of a sudden you don't
19:05
Speaker 1: have a chance at late game heroics. It was a
19:08
Speaker 1: beautiful throw and Conley appears to be that kind of
19:11
Speaker 1: clutch receiver that makes the big grab when they needed
19:14
Speaker 1: the most. And you love that play call to third
19:16
Speaker 1: and long ago for it, I do, And you know,
19:19
Speaker 1: I don't want to blakes in the past, but I
19:23
Speaker 1: said to the many the press box on those two drives,
19:28
Speaker 1: he performed better in that situation and as a clutch
19:31
Speaker 1: quarterback than any quarterback that's been here since I've been back,
19:35
Speaker 1: which is two thousand and eleven. Okay, um Menshi was
19:43
Speaker 1: better in that in that situation. We hadn't seen that
19:46
Speaker 1: sort of clutch effort that's sort of knack in those moments.
19:50
Speaker 1: The two on the next drive, twelve yard out, fourteen
19:54
Speaker 1: yard out to move from the forty to the thirty
19:57
Speaker 1: and put yourself in touchdown or in scoring situation aition.
20:00
Speaker 1: It's uh yeah, bare quarterbacks in the league. This than Minshew,
20:05
Speaker 1: but it was up there with what you have to
20:07
Speaker 1: have from your quarterback later in games to give you
20:09
Speaker 1: a chance. And we just haven't seen that here in
20:11
Speaker 1: a long time. It's what they signed Nick Foles for.
20:14
Speaker 1: It's what Folds is good at. And yesterday this kid
20:17
Speaker 1: added you talk about the clutch performance. A play that
20:20
Speaker 1: showed the poise of Garner Minshew for sure was this
20:22
Speaker 1: touchdown throw at d J Chart. Good true has time again,
20:31
Speaker 1: lots one up touchdown d ch Shark and the checks
20:38
Speaker 1: are an extra quarter away from time in the swater.
20:42
Speaker 1: Remember they had no time outs left her no time outs.
20:45
Speaker 1: Takes his time, sees d J Chart going through the
20:47
Speaker 1: route and wait until he's open. And you talk about
20:50
Speaker 1: that first and saying to just drop it off to someone.
20:53
Speaker 1: He takes his time and wait for to tuck it
20:54
Speaker 1: and run. You know, rookie quarterbacks can lose sight of
20:57
Speaker 1: the the play clock, the time time left, the time mouts.
21:01
Speaker 1: I mean, lots of things are going through their head.
21:04
Speaker 1: And he was calm and saw the field and understood
21:07
Speaker 1: the circumstance and just dumped it all. He moves in
21:11
Speaker 1: the pocket with his eyes down field. And I'm not
21:14
Speaker 1: saying he does it every time. It's hard for rookie
21:16
Speaker 1: to do every time. But in the NFL, Uh, there
21:20
Speaker 1: are two kinds of people who move in the pocket.
21:22
Speaker 1: There's guys who run to run. There's guys who run
21:24
Speaker 1: to pass. He obviously runs well. I mean the big
21:27
Speaker 1: play on that drive fourth in ten, he turns it
21:30
Speaker 1: into an eighteen yard run, but it looks from first
21:33
Speaker 1: glance like he runs with his eyes downfield. That's where
21:37
Speaker 1: the big plays come, that's where the touchdowns come from.
21:40
Speaker 1: Huge play there. Again. He also did that either on
21:43
Speaker 1: this drive of the previous drive where he started to
21:46
Speaker 1: run up in the pocket and most quarterbacks would have run,
21:49
Speaker 1: he saw the defender move toward him and he hit
21:51
Speaker 1: coldly on an out. Uh. He's got some football savvy.
21:56
Speaker 1: That's very encouraging. Yeah, let's sit out to me a
21:58
Speaker 1: few times. Is it be short passes? But there was
22:01
Speaker 1: one and I can't remember the completion, but he points
22:03
Speaker 1: that James o'shaughnasty and says, go block him, and you
22:05
Speaker 1: see his mouth say as he's running, he's telling O'Shaughnessy
22:08
Speaker 1: to cover him, and I've never I mean, you see
22:10
Speaker 1: that from time to time, but for a rookie quarterback
22:12
Speaker 1: to take his time running and point out what other
22:15
Speaker 1: guys should be doing. Well. The story last week was
22:17
Speaker 1: this was a guy that had digested a large part
22:19
Speaker 1: of the playbook, that understood the offense was very bright. Um,
22:23
Speaker 1: that's what this is. You know, a guy who understands
22:25
Speaker 1: not just what he's doing, which is hard enough for
22:27
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, but to understand what each individual player should
22:30
Speaker 1: be doing also, all right, and finally the play that
22:33
Speaker 1: ends the game, the two point conversion we've all been
22:35
Speaker 1: talking about. I'll admit initially I was standing right there
22:52
Speaker 1: in the ends and I didn't think he got it,
22:54
Speaker 1: and are you standing right there? But then you watch
22:56
Speaker 1: some of the replays and a few of the angles
22:57
Speaker 1: on TV, you say, I think he did get So
23:00
Speaker 1: you understand the rough the instinct right there, it's a
23:03
Speaker 1: really tough call. I'm looking it at Norwell, who is
23:05
Speaker 1: right there on his knees, and he's looking up Chris.
23:08
Speaker 1: Not really it all depends, but Anglier, you didn't get
23:11
Speaker 1: the call, you didn't. It looked like it was enough.
23:13
Speaker 1: It wasn't in the end, and this, to me does
23:16
Speaker 1: not nullify the decision to go for it. I know
23:18
Speaker 1: a lot of people out to go a you should
23:20
Speaker 1: have done this, you should have done that. The reality
23:22
Speaker 1: of it is a good play is one that works.
23:25
Speaker 1: A bad play is one that doesn't. That's low hanging fruit.
23:28
Speaker 1: I like the decision at the time, so I can't
23:30
Speaker 1: just change my mind because they didn't get there. I
23:34
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done it, but I had no problem with
23:36
Speaker 1: the philosophy that's, uh, you you go, you get to win.
23:43
Speaker 1: Remember you've also got a game in four days, which,
23:46
Speaker 1: as as crazy as it sounds, over time, ten more
23:51
Speaker 1: minutes with a game coming up, it's gonna sound weird.
23:55
Speaker 1: A lot of studies that say over time teams on
23:58
Speaker 1: Thursday night really struggle get out, get the win. Why
24:02
Speaker 1: you can and go play the next day. So I
24:05
Speaker 1: doubt from Doug's perspective that last part played into it
24:08
Speaker 1: very much. But there is a school of thought that
24:10
Speaker 1: when you're on the road in overtime and you've just
24:13
Speaker 1: forced it, that you go for the win right there,
24:15
Speaker 1: right And it wasn't like it was an emotional response,
24:17
Speaker 1: Doug mentioned that if they got to that position, they
24:19
Speaker 1: were going to go for two. What's the kind of
24:21
Speaker 1: thing they think about before? That's what you talk about
24:23
Speaker 1: in meetings in the off season. Hey, these situations. What's
24:27
Speaker 1: our philosophy? What situations would we break from that philosophy?
24:31
Speaker 1: But what are we if if we score on the road?
24:33
Speaker 1: Here are we going to go for it? Jerry speaking,
24:36
Speaker 1: it's yes, And then the head coach at that point says, Okay,
24:39
Speaker 1: here's why I came off that decision. But I didn't
24:42
Speaker 1: have a problem with it. Again, my instinct is always
24:45
Speaker 1: just played for overtime and get into it when you've
24:47
Speaker 1: been out playing them. But you're on the road against
24:49
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24:51
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Speaker 1: it all show done and look it started. Brian, Uh,
27:37
Speaker 1: there is no accountability right now in Jacksonville, and that
27:40
Speaker 1: has to change. Um Doug relies on his locker room
27:44
Speaker 1: to hold each other accountable. He said that last week
27:47
Speaker 1: on Monday when they were talking about Miles Jack. However, uh,
27:52
Speaker 1: you know, Myles came out and played a pretty good game,
27:53
Speaker 1: but he came out with a sea on his chest.
27:55
Speaker 1: Don't know how the room held him accountable. Um, this
27:58
Speaker 1: can get out of control in a hurt. You had
28:01
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison and d J. Hayden losing their mind on
28:04
Speaker 1: the sideline yesterday shouting and screaming. Um. If you want
28:10
Speaker 1: the players to hold him accountable, at some point, you
28:13
Speaker 1: need to hold Jalen accountable. Understand why he didn't pull
28:15
Speaker 1: him out of the game, because if he pulls him
28:17
Speaker 1: out of the game, you don't have a chance to
28:18
Speaker 1: win because then DeAndre Hopkins goes nuts again. It Doug's
28:21
Speaker 1: job is to win. However, you pull them out of
28:23
Speaker 1: the game in that situation and the guys go nuts
28:27
Speaker 1: because twenties out of the game, how do we win? Well,
28:30
Speaker 1: then it's on the players to go back and say, Jalen,
28:32
Speaker 1: you can't do that to us. You can't do that
28:35
Speaker 1: to your teammates. The only way that you change this
28:38
Speaker 1: behavior is something drastic. You can't just go hey, you're
28:40
Speaker 1: gonna kill us, because they that doesn't work right, This
28:45
Speaker 1: team needs to hold each other accountable. That kind of
28:49
Speaker 1: behavior will cost you and Jalen Ramsey all pro performance
28:53
Speaker 1: on the field. And yet all they're talking about in
28:55
Speaker 1: Good Morning Football today is what happened on the sideline.
28:59
Speaker 1: Here's how bad I can. Here's why you have to
29:00
Speaker 1: hold him accountable. Because you have Peter Schreger, right, who's
29:03
Speaker 1: a respected journalist doing what people in our job do.
29:07
Speaker 1: They're looking at the at the at the monitor in
29:09
Speaker 1: their studio and they're guessing what was d J. Hayden
29:12
Speaker 1: going to do there? He said this morning, I think
29:14
Speaker 1: d J. Hayden was going to charge Doug. Now that's
29:17
Speaker 1: what it looks like, because that's what it looks like.
29:19
Speaker 1: So we're not talking about what I believe is the
29:22
Speaker 1: single best defensive performance in Jaguar's history. Today, we're talking
29:26
Speaker 1: about Jalen losing his mind by the way over a
29:31
Speaker 1: three yard completion. Three yards, Hey, coaches, coach, players play.
29:36
Speaker 1: Jalen salary this year seven million, four nine thousand, five
29:40
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five dollars seven million, four thousand, eight
29:44
Speaker 1: hundred sixty five dollars. John, I bet not one penny
29:47
Speaker 1: of that is paid to him for coaching. Let the
29:50
Speaker 1: coach to his job. You do your job, But there's
29:53
Speaker 1: got to be accountability. There has to be got to
29:57
Speaker 1: end this fast, beyond time for this team to grow up.
29:59
Speaker 1: So one has to be held accountable for this kind
30:01
Speaker 1: of behavior which is only going to cost this team.
30:04
Speaker 1: And by the way I said, I was piste off
30:05
Speaker 1: about it last week, this team's reputation is a bunch
30:08
Speaker 1: of hotheads. So every team out there is going to
30:11
Speaker 1: send a backup tackle after somebody to see if they
30:14
Speaker 1: can't start a fight, because they'll lose the backup tackle
30:16
Speaker 1: for the game and he'll get a fine and they'll
30:18
Speaker 1: all cover it and everything will be fine. Get it together. Well,
30:23
Speaker 1: it's also too bad um is now people will take
30:29
Speaker 1: this incident with Jayalen package it with what they think
30:33
Speaker 1: they understand about him and think this is how this
30:36
Speaker 1: is how he has all the time. What was unusual
30:38
Speaker 1: is that's really not his emo it really that hasn't
30:42
Speaker 1: really been what he's done that. You know, he'll get
30:45
Speaker 1: angry and emotional, but he hasn't been that guy on
30:48
Speaker 1: the side there but you're on the sidelines more. But
30:50
Speaker 1: that's not really he's like it on the field but
30:52
Speaker 1: once he steps to the bench, Yeah, that hasn't um
30:55
Speaker 1: so what I would imagine, and it is not making
30:58
Speaker 1: an excuse, but to explore I I think he was
31:02
Speaker 1: probably as emotionally up for that games as perhaps he's
31:05
Speaker 1: ever been. Uh, he's felt like he had stopped to play.
31:11
Speaker 1: They gave him a first day and game. The field goal.
31:13
Speaker 1: If he had been right, it would have prevented points.
31:17
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he was right. I don't think that.
31:20
Speaker 1: I'm there. They have a system. It was still out
31:24
Speaker 1: a line, but I'm saying I think it was born
31:27
Speaker 1: out of you saw what the results were. He was
31:30
Speaker 1: incredibly intense and incredibrated for the game. But you still
31:33
Speaker 1: can't go there. There's no you can have great performances
31:36
Speaker 1: without the Should we open the Hall of Fame list
31:40
Speaker 1: and look at all those corners and you show me
31:42
Speaker 1: one that played like that, that loses his mind on
31:44
Speaker 1: that kind of a play, and again, best individual defensive
31:49
Speaker 1: performance in franchise history, and we're talking about this. My
31:53
Speaker 1: thing is this. Do you see the Baltimore Ravens do that?
31:56
Speaker 1: No Steelers, no Patriots, no Eagles, no Giants, no, even
32:01
Speaker 1: the Raiders aren't doing that. This year. No, you can't
32:05
Speaker 1: play the game that way. Someone has to be held
32:07
Speaker 1: accountable by someone. In my house, it's me, right, one
32:13
Speaker 1: of the kids gets out of control the other two.
32:15
Speaker 1: Right now, I have to step in and I have
32:17
Speaker 1: to say enough. I have to make the final decision.
32:19
Speaker 1: I'm the adult in the room. He's the coach. At
32:22
Speaker 1: some point, they've got to figure out a way to
32:24
Speaker 1: get this emotional hair trigger response out of the picture.
32:29
Speaker 1: It's got to change in the culture has to Yeah,
32:32
Speaker 1: and I had I had someone asked me, well, why
32:34
Speaker 1: doesn't someone like Klaias step in? You know, if the
32:36
Speaker 1: coach can't get through to him, why doesn't someone like Calais?
32:38
Speaker 1: But you gotta go back that that's Dug. That's Dug
32:41
Speaker 1: for the accountability. Calais can say all he wants, But coach,
32:45
Speaker 1: I think Doug, in his philosophy, wants the players to
32:48
Speaker 1: do this. But it isn't working, is it? Okay? At
32:52
Speaker 1: some point you have to change your approach, All right, John,
32:56
Speaker 1: what is your Bernwood fire girl? Well, um, I'm not
33:00
Speaker 1: ready to say that Gardner min she's going to be
33:02
Speaker 1: a megastar in the NFL. But considering the fact that
33:07
Speaker 1: the hot take is he's gonna have a long career
33:09
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He clearly has shown that in some capacity,
33:13
Speaker 1: he's gonna be around this league for twelve fifteen years
33:16
Speaker 1: if he wants to coach. At some point, he's going
33:18
Speaker 1: to coach because he clearly understands the game and the reasons.
33:22
Speaker 1: This is a hot take is two weeks ago, we
33:24
Speaker 1: didn't know if he was gonna be on the roster,
33:26
Speaker 1: shouldn't be on the roster. I think he was gonna
33:27
Speaker 1: be on the roster. We didn't know he's gonna be
33:28
Speaker 1: the backup, And now all of a sudden two weeks later,
33:31
Speaker 1: we realized this kid is what they thought he was
33:35
Speaker 1: when they drafted him. I think this kid's even better
33:37
Speaker 1: than they thought he was when they drafted him. And
33:40
Speaker 1: he's he's got a shot with everything that he does
33:43
Speaker 1: to start in this league, maybe do it for a while.
33:45
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna play it over the
33:47
Speaker 1: next six or seven weeks, um, but he does have
33:51
Speaker 1: a chance. He's got a window of opportunity. If he
33:54
Speaker 1: plays like he did in the fourth quarter yesterday, Um,
33:57
Speaker 1: it's going to be hard not to find a place
34:00
Speaker 1: for him on the field. You know, I don't. It
34:05
Speaker 1: sounds stupid. He's not gonna start with Nick Foles, but
34:09
Speaker 1: guys who can do the kind of things he did
34:11
Speaker 1: late in the game start changing conversation. What you're trying
34:14
Speaker 1: to say, I think is that there is something about
34:16
Speaker 1: this kid, and we didn't see it in August, but
34:20
Speaker 1: we saw it once the game's god starting. If I
34:22
Speaker 1: told you in August he'll be playing in two because
34:27
Speaker 1: they told me not to be in a production meeting
34:30
Speaker 1: before the preseason game against the Falcons, he still hasn't
34:33
Speaker 1: earned the backup job. We're still not sure. Now, maybe
34:36
Speaker 1: Doug was feigning that a little bit, but he's always
34:38
Speaker 1: been completely candid in those meetings. He said it three
34:40
Speaker 1: or four different times, and all of a sudden, So
34:43
Speaker 1: the word that comes to mind is Gardner Minshoe is
34:46
Speaker 1: a gamer. Yeah, he shows up when the game is
34:49
Speaker 1: on the line like that. There's something. There's something about
34:52
Speaker 1: this kid. Don't know how high it can go. Can
34:56
Speaker 1: the guy stay healthy? Right, that's a question. Not all
34:58
Speaker 1: quarterbacks can. He seems running for his life a few times. Absolutely.
35:01
Speaker 1: I mean there's but there's there's something about this kid.
35:04
Speaker 1: There's something there. Let's see what he does on on
35:07
Speaker 1: Thursday against the Titans, who the Jaguars have not been
35:10
Speaker 1: able to solve in the last couple of years. The
35:11
Speaker 1: point is he's he's the real deal. He's an NFL Corps.
35:14
Speaker 1: Yes he is now, which puts him in what the
35:17
Speaker 1: top now, which I don't think we knew two weeks ago,
35:24
Speaker 1: and we don't know where he's going. But now let's
35:26
Speaker 1: see where he fits in that. Uh, he hasn't found
35:28
Speaker 1: a ceiling yet. All right, My Bernie wood fire girl
35:31
Speaker 1: cock take is the offense isn't helping themselves out. They're
35:34
Speaker 1: shooting themselves at the foot in times. It all starts
35:37
Speaker 1: up front. And I say that because there was nine
35:39
Speaker 1: penalties as a whole in this game, seven on the offense,
35:42
Speaker 1: six of those in the second half and four in
35:45
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. A ton of offensive holding. You saw
35:48
Speaker 1: one past interference with DD that we weren't sure about,
35:50
Speaker 1: but especially on fensive line, they were struggling big time
35:53
Speaker 1: with the holdings. And then Garner Minshu in the postgame
35:55
Speaker 1: press conference says, we're not gonna win until we get
35:59
Speaker 1: out of ourselves. So just let's look at a couple
36:02
Speaker 1: of those real quick here. So they're down six to
36:04
Speaker 1: three and the third quarter and on third down and
36:07
Speaker 1: one Leonard for Nett at the Houston forty one gains
36:10
Speaker 1: it right games the first down. There's a momentum coming here. Now, however,
36:15
Speaker 1: Brandon Leonard was called for holding. You never hear Brandon
36:17
Speaker 1: Leonard get called for holding. It's third and eleven, right,
36:20
Speaker 1: not easy, But then Will Richardson jumps off starts. Now
36:23
Speaker 1: it's throw down at sixteen and before you know it,
36:25
Speaker 1: you're cunning. Right, that is a shot in the foot.
36:28
Speaker 1: Here's another one. The deep pass to d J. Chark
36:31
Speaker 1: for twenty nine yards puts you off of your own
36:34
Speaker 1: thirty to their forty one. Offensive holding on Juwan Taylor.
36:38
Speaker 1: It comes back its first and twenty at the Jaguars
36:41
Speaker 1: twenty and that's where the sack and the strip that's
36:45
Speaker 1: set up Houston touchdown takes place. So you're shooting yourself
36:48
Speaker 1: in the foot and it's killing you. And then there's
36:50
Speaker 1: other cases of another false start, offensive pass interference, offensive holding,
36:55
Speaker 1: all of these offensive holding, first and ten at the
36:58
Speaker 1: twenty yard line with eight o two to play, and
37:00
Speaker 1: you end up settling for a field goal. So thought
37:04
Speaker 1: the series that you mentioned in the third quarter was
37:08
Speaker 1: part of a series. It was key um. People will
37:12
Speaker 1: look back on this game and think of it as well.
37:15
Speaker 1: They almost pulled out a game that they shouldn't have
37:17
Speaker 1: because of Minshew's heros at the end, the vibe of
37:20
Speaker 1: the game. They controlled it after halftime. They had moved
37:26
Speaker 1: to the forty in the third quarter, should have gotten
37:29
Speaker 1: points and taken the lead. They had harassed the Texans
37:32
Speaker 1: offense so much that Jalen had an opportunity for a
37:35
Speaker 1: pick six, which really came about because the defense had
37:40
Speaker 1: Watson throwing with his momentum going backwards. Well, so it
37:44
Speaker 1: was a lofty path. They were starting to dominate that
37:47
Speaker 1: situation and the pressure had finally created an opportunity for
37:50
Speaker 1: the defense. They had taken control of the game, and
37:53
Speaker 1: they left fourteen ten six points on the field in
37:56
Speaker 1: those situations where the quarter the game would have been different.
38:00
Speaker 1: They outplayed them and didn't get the points in the
38:03
Speaker 1: third quarter they should have, and that's what caused it
38:05
Speaker 1: to feel like He wrote come back at the end,
38:08
Speaker 1: and Leonard said in the locker room, you were standing
38:09
Speaker 1: right there after the game. It was simple. It wasn't
38:12
Speaker 1: just that one play. There were other plays. They know,
38:16
Speaker 1: they know that they helped play the Texans, and they
38:18
Speaker 1: let it get away from them. I really thought that
38:20
Speaker 1: was the key sequence. You're thinking from the press box. Yea,
38:26
Speaker 1: A game sometimes go like this with my manum one
38:28
Speaker 1: way or the other. At that point, all the momentum
38:30
Speaker 1: is with the Jaguars, and he couldn't get points out
38:32
Speaker 1: of it. When you don't do that, you usually lose.
38:34
Speaker 1: When Leonard got that first down at the forty yard line,
38:37
Speaker 1: it all the momentum they were going, they were rolling,
38:40
Speaker 1: and then that holding call. Story of the game. All right,
38:43
Speaker 1: let's get into some ozone. All right, we're going up
38:56
Speaker 1: to New York. Scott from New York? Is it me?
39:00
Speaker 1: Whereas Minshew exactly what everyone kept hoping the Blake Bortles was, well,
39:05
Speaker 1: well I first saw this, you know, I guess I'm
39:07
Speaker 1: tired of looking back at Blake, you know, for as reasons.
39:11
Speaker 1: But then I kind of said, you know what, there's
39:12
Speaker 1: something to that. You know, all the grit, all the savvy,
39:16
Speaker 1: all the stuff that you loved about Blake, which when
39:18
Speaker 1: things were growing right, he showed this kid has but
39:22
Speaker 1: with the and again forget about Blake for a moment.
39:26
Speaker 1: It's the football savvy and it's the it's the ability
39:30
Speaker 1: when things are breaking down to see what's going on.
39:33
Speaker 1: He's he's a rookie and it already looks like the
39:37
Speaker 1: game is slow for him, meaning he can see things.
39:40
Speaker 1: He can see two or three steps ahead, which is
39:43
Speaker 1: exactly what we were told about. The only question has
39:45
Speaker 1: always been does he have the physical arm to make
39:51
Speaker 1: every throw that you need to take this to hear
39:56
Speaker 1: the effective teammates. Um, he made some out He made
40:01
Speaker 1: some throws outside the numbers that were good enough for
40:03
Speaker 1: you think, okay, he's not a ten there, but he
40:06
Speaker 1: might be good enough. But yeah, he's what everybody wanted
40:09
Speaker 1: Blake to be, that sort of folk hero type thing,
40:12
Speaker 1: and you want him to win. Teammates wanted to play
40:16
Speaker 1: for Blake. It's hard not to want to play for
40:18
Speaker 1: this guy. If you go back and look at Blake's
40:21
Speaker 1: first start in San Diego, back in that game, he
40:24
Speaker 1: made a couple of those miraculous runs and spin move
40:28
Speaker 1: with a little throw out to the tight end. Uh,
40:31
Speaker 1: it was Clay Harbor. He made some of those plays
40:34
Speaker 1: be like whoa, It was fun to watch him. Um.
40:36
Speaker 1: He also mixed in to pick six, which the whole thing.
40:40
Speaker 1: And this kid, the interception he's thrown so far was
40:43
Speaker 1: not his fault. It was it should have been a
40:45
Speaker 1: catch by Leonard for Net Instead it came off of
40:47
Speaker 1: his hands in space mask and it was an easy,
40:49
Speaker 1: you know, out of the air carum sort of thing.
40:52
Speaker 1: For Frank Clark. No, I mean, this kid looks to
40:54
Speaker 1: be Um the athlete. He looks to have that kind
40:57
Speaker 1: of moxie, the toughness Um, but maybe makes better decisions.
41:00
Speaker 1: It's early, though, it's I mean, that was his first start.
41:02
Speaker 1: It's early. But what his passer ratings one eleven, three touchdowns,
41:06
Speaker 1: one interception once he completed seventy his passes. But first
41:11
Speaker 1: start on the road, even with a great defense behind you,
41:15
Speaker 1: is often a disaster. There's often stuff going on where
41:18
Speaker 1: after the game you usually say, well, the kid will
41:21
Speaker 1: get better. It would have been surprised if there wasn't
41:22
Speaker 1: a turnover that detections turned into a score. That's usually
41:26
Speaker 1: the case. It's usually fourth quarter and you think, well
41:29
Speaker 1: there every he's saying, well there it is. He stayed
41:33
Speaker 1: out of that and he did the opposite, and that
41:36
Speaker 1: he was getty on the road. The two drives in
41:39
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter on the road. That's tough. And I
41:41
Speaker 1: want to say that you could feel the teammates rallying
41:44
Speaker 1: behind him, that Marcel Darius and Miles Jack were standing
41:49
Speaker 1: on the bench jumping up and down during that last drive. Right.
41:53
Speaker 1: So from the disaster that could have been the fourth quarter,
41:55
Speaker 1: two are the first quarter, sorry, that actually could have
41:58
Speaker 1: been the first quarter to the fourth quarter when everything
42:01
Speaker 1: was united. Um, I mean it's probably trite to say
42:05
Speaker 1: that's minshew, but boy tell you what, he galvanized that
42:08
Speaker 1: football team yesterday with the way he played in the
42:10
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Well here to the next thing in the
42:13
Speaker 1: second But there is something he said, well we've talked
42:15
Speaker 1: about earlier that should be noted from the point in
42:18
Speaker 1: the second quarter where things could have fallen apart um
42:21
Speaker 1: it didn't. Yeah, and that's no, No, that's a testament.
42:24
Speaker 1: That's interesting. That's it. That's it. It was late first quarter,
42:26
Speaker 1: by the way, it was that and I said that,
42:28
Speaker 1: and my quick thought is today testament to Jalen, testament
42:31
Speaker 1: to Doug. They both dialed it back and they focused
42:35
Speaker 1: on the game plan. If we're talking about mental toughness
42:37
Speaker 1: and the lack of it last week. That's where mental
42:39
Speaker 1: toughness is born, where you overcome that adversity. You don't
42:42
Speaker 1: want it in the first place, you gotta avoid it.
42:44
Speaker 1: But they overcame it and then Minshew galvanized everyone around
42:48
Speaker 1: him with the way that he played. That's why, despite
42:51
Speaker 1: the embarrassment of the first quarter yesterday, I have energy
42:54
Speaker 1: for this team now on a short week with the
42:56
Speaker 1: Titans coming in. I'm excited about it because I saw
42:59
Speaker 1: a lot of good things out there. Yeah, you talked
43:00
Speaker 1: about the teammates being excited to play for Minshew. He
43:03
Speaker 1: was going on the on the field for the last drive,
43:05
Speaker 1: looking very serious and intense, and Miles Jack looks and says, hey, smile,
43:08
Speaker 1: you're gonna win PEPSI Rookie of the Week again. Yeah.
43:12
Speaker 1: There's a lot to like about this team and its personality.
43:15
Speaker 1: Something that has to get fixed. But Minshew went a
43:17
Speaker 1: long way towards it yesterday. Yes he did. All right,
43:19
Speaker 1: let's stay in Jacksonville and go to Morgan. This offense
43:23
Speaker 1: is flawed like it has been in the past, but
43:24
Speaker 1: it also has a lot more fight in it. It
43:27
Speaker 1: really looks like there might be something there with the receivers.
43:30
Speaker 1: You've said that since the beginning. Yeah, and uh, I
43:34
Speaker 1: didn't think they were gonna look this good this early.
43:36
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is not necessarily the numbers.
43:39
Speaker 1: I'm not really looking for numbers with wide receivers. I'm
43:41
Speaker 1: looking for things that they do that you can eventually
43:43
Speaker 1: rely on. Uh chart since the beginning of training camp
43:50
Speaker 1: real and I think it was Baltimore when I first
43:52
Speaker 1: started noticing does NFL stuff. He catches crossing routes that
43:57
Speaker 1: look like the big timers do. He catches the ball
43:59
Speaker 1: with his hands, he snatches the ball out of the air.
44:02
Speaker 1: He made I'm forgetting what situation was, but maybe yesterday
44:05
Speaker 1: where you thought it was an errant throw and he
44:09
Speaker 1: reached out and he kept his body and bounds. Big
44:13
Speaker 1: time play. Conny looks like he has the ability to
44:18
Speaker 1: catch five passes for for eight d yards a game,
44:22
Speaker 1: and you're not surprised when he's got if you live
44:24
Speaker 1: a statute, he has converted three first downs twelve yard catches.
44:29
Speaker 1: He's a professional wide receiver. I think it's gonna be
44:30
Speaker 1: an all pro that would be a pro bowler. But
44:33
Speaker 1: there's there are things they can rely on. Their things
44:36
Speaker 1: that Flip can say these guys can do this, well,
44:39
Speaker 1: let's works at our offense. This is what we can become. Uh.
44:42
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see all three of those guys.
44:45
Speaker 1: DD's not putting up the numbers yet because I think
44:47
Speaker 1: teams are taking D D away and outside guys. So
44:52
Speaker 1: eventually that comes around where you have to start guarding Shark.
44:57
Speaker 1: If the three are good, and they're all good, the
45:00
Speaker 1: ask will work out in the wash over the over
45:02
Speaker 1: the course of the season. I just want to point
45:03
Speaker 1: the situation out with that. It was that clutch catch
45:05
Speaker 1: where he had to reach for it. It It was after
45:07
Speaker 1: the two minute warning. It was first in ten at
45:09
Speaker 1: Houston's forty five yard line and the past to the
45:13
Speaker 1: thirty one yard line, so it was a fourteen yard grab.
45:16
Speaker 1: It was an important one because it gave him a shot.
45:18
Speaker 1: It put them in that moment where they knew they
45:20
Speaker 1: had a chance. It was a big catch, and those plays,
45:24
Speaker 1: he looks like he's taking the step. He looks like
45:27
Speaker 1: he might. I don't think he's going to be a
45:29
Speaker 1: true one superstar this year, but he's got the stuff
45:33
Speaker 1: to do it. He didn't show it in the field
45:35
Speaker 1: last year, but he he's playing like first round pack.
45:38
Speaker 1: You know that passed early on where Gardner overthrew it
45:42
Speaker 1: and it looked like DJ didn't you know, he'd stumbled
45:44
Speaker 1: trying to get free of the receiver. Watch for that one,
45:47
Speaker 1: because he was wide open. You know, he had gotten
45:51
Speaker 1: past the defender. It looked like it would be a
45:54
Speaker 1: touchdown and it would Minshew a little phantom pressure kind
45:59
Speaker 1: of saw it out of the corner. His eye through
46:01
Speaker 1: it a little bit shorter than he wanted to and
46:03
Speaker 1: and Chart was not back on stride yet. Just wait
46:06
Speaker 1: for that. Though. He's going to show you more one
46:10
Speaker 1: characteristics this year. Uh then two, he's gonna show you
46:15
Speaker 1: the ability to do that whether he does it consistently. Right,
46:17
Speaker 1: he does big time athletics stuff, and he's and he's
46:20
Speaker 1: holding the ball this year. But you can see where
46:22
Speaker 1: he can be a one. Absolutely. All right, Let's go
46:24
Speaker 1: to pont A Vedra beach Bill. The kid can play,
46:27
Speaker 1: the receivers are good, the defense is back. Now let's
46:30
Speaker 1: go win some games. Well, and I just included this
46:33
Speaker 1: one because I think that is a feeling. Yeah, I
46:35
Speaker 1: think that's a feeling that people have. Uh they saw
46:39
Speaker 1: some things yesterday. It felt like a game they should
46:43
Speaker 1: have won the outplay him. They did it on the road. Uh.
46:47
Speaker 1: If the team was going to disintegrate, yesterday was when
46:52
Speaker 1: it would have happened. There have been cases here in
46:54
Speaker 1: the past. Again, I was us since I've been back,
46:56
Speaker 1: because we've covered some bad teams as i've been back. Um,
47:00
Speaker 1: there are feelings like that one yesterday where this would
47:03
Speaker 1: have been thirty seven ten and the fourth quarter and
47:06
Speaker 1: you're walking off and we're getting the bus going. Man. Uh,
47:12
Speaker 1: this team didn't play like that. I mean, I would
47:14
Speaker 1: feel infinitely better if they were one on one. They
47:16
Speaker 1: are one and one, you would be ecstatic. Oh and
47:18
Speaker 1: two puts you in a statistical historical hole that's gonna
47:21
Speaker 1: be difficult to climb out of. That's just old hold though,
47:23
Speaker 1: because in each of the last six seasons a team
47:25
Speaker 1: has started oh two have made the playoffs. I'm with you.
47:28
Speaker 1: There was a time when those ninety three Cowboys were
47:30
Speaker 1: the only team that did it, and the only reason
47:32
Speaker 1: they lost the first two was because Emmt Smith was
47:34
Speaker 1: holding out. But in each of the last six years.
47:36
Speaker 1: Now Texas did it last year. Yeah, here's my point.
47:39
Speaker 1: You're playing without your starting quarterback, the guy that you
47:42
Speaker 1: committed eighty eight million dollars to oh and two. With
47:46
Speaker 1: that kind of a performance from the defense and from
47:48
Speaker 1: the young quarterback feels different than oh and two. It
47:52
Speaker 1: just does. And you can say, ah, you're full of it,
47:54
Speaker 1: You're a homer. I'm just telling you. If you were
47:55
Speaker 1: there yesterday and you saw the way that this thing
47:58
Speaker 1: went from near disaster in the reporter to damn near
48:01
Speaker 1: a win, Okay, give me the Titans on Thursday night.
48:04
Speaker 1: Let's go. I had another email last night, guys from
48:06
Speaker 1: somebody who said, Hey, we were We had said before
48:09
Speaker 1: the game that if they lost, we were done, but
48:12
Speaker 1: after watching that, we're coming on Thursday night. And I
48:14
Speaker 1: think there's a feeling of that. Uh. I'll definitely be
48:18
Speaker 1: here if they had to be, but I think other
48:19
Speaker 1: people will be here out of choice. Well, and there
48:21
Speaker 1: are T shirts and magnetis yeah. But come because regardless
48:25
Speaker 1: of that, come get them. Come because the kid is exciting.
48:27
Speaker 1: Come because the defense that you love appears to be back.
48:31
Speaker 1: Come because the season is far from lost. Come because
48:34
Speaker 1: John will be when you have one of these, right,
48:36
Speaker 1: one of those like well dainty shirt, Yes, no, the
48:43
Speaker 1: public's I gave you one small they have female sizes,
48:47
Speaker 1: is my point, so girls can come to it. I'm
48:51
Speaker 1: gonna go to public on Thursday, the one in Neptune Beach,
48:53
Speaker 1: and I hope every Public's employee is wearing that shirt.
48:56
Speaker 1: That would be cool. They're gonna take John show. You
49:01
Speaker 1: know you can't even take a match with this guy. No,
49:04
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49:06
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50:56
Speaker 1: skip the wind yesterday against the Titans, but it's Adam
50:58
Speaker 1: Gonna Terry that's making headlines today. Missed two of three
51:02
Speaker 1: extra point attempts, and he told reporters in the locker
51:04
Speaker 1: room post game, you're gonna hear from me tomorrow. An
51:07
Speaker 1: announcements coming intriguing. Yeah, it sounds like a right a
51:13
Speaker 1: little bit because I covered Adam for three or four
51:15
Speaker 1: years and I like the guy. Um, it sounded like
51:19
Speaker 1: the speculation was that he would retire. Uh, I don't.
51:23
Speaker 1: I'm not close enough to know, but I am close
51:26
Speaker 1: enough to Mike Chapel, who has covered the Colt for
51:30
Speaker 1: twenty five years, and he said Adams always told him
51:32
Speaker 1: that he would walk away when he feel like he
51:34
Speaker 1: was a liability. So if he thinks he is, then
51:36
Speaker 1: he won't stay you. And I covered him in his
51:38
Speaker 1: rookie season when he was kicking for the Patriots. In fact,
51:40
Speaker 1: he beat the Jaguars with an overtime field goal at
51:43
Speaker 1: the Old Stadium in New England back septem tremendous kicker.
51:48
Speaker 1: Um stayed one year too long, it turns out, Um,
51:51
Speaker 1: you know, when it goes, it goes. And the story
51:53
Speaker 1: was he's forty six. Last year he was still kicking
51:55
Speaker 1: at a high level. Um about to be forty seven,
51:58
Speaker 1: and now he's pushing. You know the long time George
52:02
Speaker 1: Blanda who was a quarterback and then kicked until he
52:06
Speaker 1: was nearly forty nine, Right, Uh, what do you play
52:09
Speaker 1: NFL seasons with? You know, so many teams, some teams
52:12
Speaker 1: don't even existence anymore. Um, it appears that And I've
52:17
Speaker 1: always said this, when guys are done, it's you know, right,
52:22
Speaker 1: it's just done. Um, it's time for him to leave.
52:25
Speaker 1: And and I hate to say that because he was
52:27
Speaker 1: a great kicker, but what do you get five seasons? No,
52:31
Speaker 1: it's not thought he would have known before. So when
52:35
Speaker 1: it first half and I thought, well, maybe a bad day,
52:39
Speaker 1: but apparently he knows now and it's time to go.
52:42
Speaker 1: And you hate to go out like that. Well, and
52:44
Speaker 1: you hate to leave your team at this point, you know,
52:45
Speaker 1: looking for another kicker, but you're costing them at this point.
52:48
Speaker 1: And um, he should be remembered for his his Super
52:52
Speaker 1: Bowl heroic What type of a kicker he is, Uh, tremendous,
52:56
Speaker 1: tremendous guy in the community to hate to see him go.
53:00
Speaker 1: Appreciate the fact that he's willing to step aside, and
53:02
Speaker 1: he will be remembered with the kind of kicker he was.
53:04
Speaker 1: Not the last two be in the Hall of Fame.
53:05
Speaker 1: He Uh, there aren't many kickers in the whole of fame.
53:08
Speaker 1: He had the game winning kick in three Super Bowls
53:12
Speaker 1: and the cold team I covered the one it they
53:14
Speaker 1: don't win the super Bowl without a performance that he
53:17
Speaker 1: had in the playoffs where he hit all it was
53:20
Speaker 1: five field goals a couple or fifty yards. So he's
53:23
Speaker 1: he's as clutch of kickers as ever been. Alright, two
53:25
Speaker 1: quarterbacks getting hurt in the league yesterday, Drew Brees and
53:28
Speaker 1: Big Ben. Drew Brees hit his hand on another player's
53:31
Speaker 1: hand and now seems to have major ligament damon damage
53:34
Speaker 1: that they're calling significant. And then Drew Brees, I'm sorry,
53:37
Speaker 1: Big Ben's elbow bothered him throughout the entire game, and
53:39
Speaker 1: they're saying today that they might be thinking of surgery
53:42
Speaker 1: for him. You're talking about two teams. The Steelers have
53:46
Speaker 1: started Ohen too as well, but their defense played really
53:48
Speaker 1: well yesterday, even though they lost. I think the thought was, Okay,
53:52
Speaker 1: we'll get into this rhythm, we'll get you know, we'll
53:53
Speaker 1: get it back. But then James Connor goes down also
53:55
Speaker 1: now with a knee injury, right, and I don't know
53:57
Speaker 1: the extent of that um And then of course if
53:59
Speaker 1: you take a breeze, I don't care how good Taysom
54:01
Speaker 1: Hill is you take Drew Brees out of New Orleans offense,
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Speaker 1: They're not They're a shell of themselves. Um, that's what
54:08
Speaker 1: you kind of expect the Jaguars to be right without
54:11
Speaker 1: Nick Foles. Um. I hope Mason Rudolph and Taysom Hill
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Speaker 1: can keep those two teams in contention. But when you
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Speaker 1: lose your quarterback, it hurts every team in the league.
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Speaker 1: In some capacities built around their quarterback. The Steelers and
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Speaker 1: the Saints might be in the top ten. Of that bunch.
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Speaker 1: Saints might be the most. I mean everything they do,
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Speaker 1: everything is built around him. Uh, and he I didn't
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Speaker 1: see very much about Rothlisberg. I happen when I got
54:42
Speaker 1: home last night to watch some and I thought about
54:44
Speaker 1: the Saints. Uh, Drew is legitimately a warried you can tell.
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Speaker 1: And with the hand, He's been doing it long enough
54:51
Speaker 1: to know if it's serious or not. And they said
54:53
Speaker 1: they went and saw a specialist in l A about
54:55
Speaker 1: the hand. Immediately, I think that's today. So yeah, all right,
54:59
Speaker 1: And finally the doll Ofphins. Oh, the Dolphins have given
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Speaker 1: up a hundred and two points in the first two
55:05
Speaker 1: weeks of the season. Well, so the pictures that's a lot.
55:10
Speaker 1: That's too many. What is that that matched the the
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Speaker 1: seventy three Saints? Is that what he said? What I
55:15
Speaker 1: heard earlier, it's it's an epic amount. Um, there won't
55:20
Speaker 1: be anybody in the stands right from here on now.
55:23
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd hope they go out and give a
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Speaker 1: strong showing. And now you've got players who are who
55:27
Speaker 1: are jumping overboard, wanting to be traded, and the Dolphins
55:31
Speaker 1: seemed willing to trade anybody that can get them a
55:32
Speaker 1: high pick, get them more capital. Um. But's it's it's
55:38
Speaker 1: I've never seen a team just embrace the suck like
55:40
Speaker 1: these guys. Well, I mean and two thousand thirteen, the
55:43
Speaker 1: day always came pretty close. I mean it was, you know,
55:46
Speaker 1: I don't recall that they were terry. They didn't have Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but they didn't have players like that, They didn't have
55:54
Speaker 1: the left tackle, they didn't have all these Yeah, I
55:58
Speaker 1: mean they I guess you could have traded pulpus losing,
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Speaker 1: but that roster was barren, right, This roster has been dismantled.
56:04
Speaker 1: Even even that team, though, there's a risk to what
56:08
Speaker 1: they're doing because you've got to pick the right guys.
56:11
Speaker 1: You can also tear it down too far, and it's
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Speaker 1: tough when you're losing and you're trying to get this back.
56:18
Speaker 1: It's tough to get it back when you're not winning.
56:21
Speaker 1: Stuff to learn how to win in that situation. So, uh,
56:25
Speaker 1: the Jaguars and Browns did versions of this in the
56:28
Speaker 1: last eight to ten years ish, and you're right, this
56:31
Speaker 1: is more extreme than she has and thirteen, but those
56:34
Speaker 1: are sort of the blueprints and it can be tough
56:36
Speaker 1: to crawl out of it. So it's gonna be interesting
56:38
Speaker 1: to see how they do it. It's a it's not
56:41
Speaker 1: as easy as it is in the NBA, where you
56:43
Speaker 1: just get player and void a you're good. Uh, I
56:46
Speaker 1: don't know that it works in this league as well. Well.
56:49
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Miami is not a place people want
56:51
Speaker 1: to point their finger at the Jaguars for having empty seats.
56:53
Speaker 1: Miami has always had the most empty seats in that
56:56
Speaker 1: stadium down there. Um, it's gonna be a wave of
56:59
Speaker 1: what they called because there won't be anybody in the
57:01
Speaker 1: stand at the end of sy Why would you give
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Speaker 1: your heart and money when the team is saying we're
57:05
Speaker 1: going to trade everyone away. The auctioning of Minca Fitzpatrick
57:08
Speaker 1: seems to me to be the ultimate, you know, middle
57:11
Speaker 1: finger to the fans. We don't care about this season,
57:14
Speaker 1: but give us your money income. If I'm the fans,
57:17
Speaker 1: I say right back at yeah. And then the reports
57:20
Speaker 1: this morning that they're running back Pink and Drake is
57:22
Speaker 1: also and they're considering that too. I mean, whoa hold on?
57:25
Speaker 1: So all I have to do is asked to leave.
57:28
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have a team left. It's that That's
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Speaker 1: what makes the extreme, all right, and that is our show.
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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for Dug Morown later on this afternoon. A
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