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1015 - Family Lockup (s1e1) "The Sins Between Us" with Keisha · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to pink se Gosh, you guys are lucky.
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Speaker 2: This is a bonus episode.
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Speaker 1: It's a bonus free feed episode, and you're gonna get
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Speaker 1: it for ten weeks.
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Speaker 3: Nisha, we don't spend enough time together. We have to
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Speaker 3: add one more show.
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Speaker 1: We got nervous. Love is Blind is over, the Valley's over.
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Speaker 2: What are we gonna do where I can see each
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Speaker 2: other forty six times a day.
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Speaker 4: I don't know if I like that or not. Kind
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Speaker 4: of got me used to. It's like your routine now,
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Speaker 4: I know.
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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you guys that it's Keisha and I
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Speaker 1: were all ready to work on our own Love is
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Speaker 1: Blind episodes.
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Speaker 4: But they pulled a little yeah uk switch.
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Speaker 2: Around on us and didn't give us any screeners.
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Speaker 1: Love is Blind won't be out as quick this coming
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Speaker 1: week on the free feed, I mean, on the paid feed.
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Speaker 4: But you'll get it. You get it.
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Speaker 2: You get it on Wednesday and Thursday. That's going to
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Speaker 2: be the best we can do.
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Speaker 4: You're going to get it no matter what, You're going
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Speaker 4: to get it.
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Speaker 2: We're not magicians, we can't.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we were pretty damn surprised when we saw
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Speaker 3: that email this morning saying that the screeners will there's
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Speaker 3: no screw, no more screeners, Like, okay, why no explanation
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Speaker 3: behind it?
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Speaker 1: Well, Matt of Reality Gaye was like, I think they
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Speaker 1: did this last year. UK did this last year that
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Speaker 1: we didn't get the last two, the wedding one. We
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Speaker 1: didn't get the wedding ones last year because we know
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Speaker 1: that we were with the reunions. But he thinks for
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Speaker 1: UK they don't give the wedding episodes.
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Speaker 4: I don't remember that.
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Speaker 2: I don't remember that either, I said, I don't.
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Speaker 4: Think I just remember the reunion.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Matt, I love you, but I think you might
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Speaker 3: be wrong on this one, buddy.
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Speaker 1: He might be wrong, but that's okay. So but we're
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Speaker 1: not here to talk about that, guys. We're here to
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Speaker 1: talk about I'm back at the beach and the fruit
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Speaker 1: fliser are still here, So that's what we're here to
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Speaker 1: talk about.
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Speaker 3: I told you, I said, you key, these are little
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Speaker 3: scamps and they're smart.
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Speaker 4: I'm like Mary Payne.
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Speaker 3: They have concluded that you guys are one big family,
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Speaker 3: right right, So you keep talking about these things you're
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Speaker 3: going to do in the house, So you just gave
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Speaker 3: them time to prepare, so they were like, let us
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Speaker 3: show her how committed we really are.
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Speaker 4: To this family.
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Speaker 3: Uh huh. They got their gas mask on, like they
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Speaker 3: didn't fall for your tricks, like you, y'all are gonna
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Speaker 3: have to do sign language or something like that, because
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Speaker 3: well they probably fucking know it though.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right right.
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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that they have been here and
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Speaker 1: bombed this house twice. So they bombed it once and
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Speaker 1: then later that week the cleaning lady came by and
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Speaker 1: I kind of forgot, but I asked her a couple
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Speaker 1: of days later ago, Oh, I forgot to ask, like,
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Speaker 1: everything good with the fruit fly? She's like, no, they're
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Speaker 1: still hanging around. Damn it.
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Speaker 4: They're telling you there's some kind of hybrid.
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Speaker 1: They bombed a second time, and they are i'd say,
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Speaker 1: seventy percent better. Okay, they're not just like flying at
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Speaker 1: my face while I'm trying to record. But I do
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Speaker 1: have this and their listener wrote me this thing. Okay,
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Speaker 1: See it sucks them up with the light and then
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Speaker 1: it puts them down here in the chamber and there's
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Speaker 1: a sticky pad down there and they can't get out.
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Speaker 2: So I've got now I've got two of these.
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Speaker 1: Have you seen any fruit flies in those Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: opened it up to see there. But the one in
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Speaker 1: the fruitfly trip in my bathroom, it's like a thing
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Speaker 1: that sticks into the light like a night light, and
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Speaker 1: it's got like a sticky thing. When I tell you
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Speaker 1: there's not there's no there's no space at that end.
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Speaker 1: There are thousands stuck to it. As in thousands, I'm
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Speaker 1: not exaggerating. So I was like, okay, so we've literally
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Speaker 1: killed families and families and villages of fruitflies.
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Speaker 4: Generations, generations, yet they keep coming back.
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Speaker 1: So I keep reading, they keep reading. I don't know
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Speaker 1: what they're doing in my drains, but they are. The
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Speaker 1: supervisor is now coming by from the pest control supervisor
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Speaker 1: Jason is coming next Wednesday. He can't come till next Wednesday.
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Speaker 1: But I was like, okay, I'll take it. They're like,
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Speaker 1: he's only on the island on Wednesdays. Can you come
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Speaker 1: next Wednesday? I go, I'll be waiting for him to
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Speaker 1: see just like my uh, just like my hernia.
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Speaker 4: No, what did I have?
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Speaker 2: I had an aneurysm, not a hernia.
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Speaker 4: I have that too, Okay, just you have a near
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Speaker 4: death experience, You did not have a hernia.
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Speaker 1: Just like my aneurism. It's a rare case. It's a
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Speaker 1: rare case of fruit flies. I had a rare aneurism.
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Speaker 1: And uh yeah, but they know that I'm here at
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Speaker 1: this desk now, so they are starting to approach. They're
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Speaker 1: very excited about my coffee. They're super excited about my
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Speaker 1: new This is an office meeting for the guys.
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Speaker 4: The coffee's already made. It's come on, don't come on.
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Speaker 4: Chlrety got it for it, Like, oh, sure, come on,
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Speaker 4: come on. They're on there on a meeting starting. This
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Speaker 4: is a meeting for them.
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Speaker 1: Keisha, your take on the fruit flies has literally been
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Speaker 1: the same grace for my mental health on this fruit
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Speaker 1: fly every time she comes up with something new about
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Speaker 1: the fruit flies. When she was like, when you get there,
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Speaker 1: school would have started. So they're gonna won't be some
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Speaker 1: many there because they have someonever at school, new school year.
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 3: If the supervisor cannot get this on the control, you're
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Speaker 3: gonna have to call Billy the exterminator.
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Speaker 4: Who's that? Oh, oh, are you kidding me?
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Speaker 2: No, I don't know what you're talking about.
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Speaker 3: Who's that Billy the exterminator? Of course you didn't watch
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Speaker 3: that damn show.
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Speaker 2: I s what is is that the name of the show.
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Speaker 4: Yes, and it's about that. They do buds, critters, all
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Speaker 4: kinds of stuff.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's is it one of those things where like
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Speaker 1: they pull down a wall and it's like a six
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Speaker 1: foot bee hive in the wall and that kind of shit.
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Speaker 3: And then they saved the bees because bees are good
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Speaker 3: for the environ Okay, well yeah for that, yes.
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Speaker 4: Yes, they're all about you know, conservation all that.
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Speaker 3: Now yes, no, no need for rats, so they will kill
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Speaker 3: the hell out of rats. But Billy Exterminator had seven series,
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Speaker 3: including the last the last seven seasons, the last season
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Speaker 3: which was Billy Goes North because they're based on Louisiana.
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Speaker 3: Oh okay, travel Well, he's a full he's a full
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Speaker 3: on vampire.
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Speaker 4: Now like, okay, he's got the things.
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Speaker 3: No, yes, okay, I'm gonna have to message him.
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Speaker 1: Okay, is uh what when when the lady called today,
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Speaker 1: was like hi, like she called me for the pest control.
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Speaker 1: I didn't call her like she called me. He was like, Hi,
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Speaker 1: I understand the problem.
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Speaker 4: She said.
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Speaker 1: What what we're gonna do is I'm gonna send the
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Speaker 1: guy over on Wednesday, blah blah blah.
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Speaker 4: And I said, yeah, I go the fruit flies.
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Speaker 1: I said, you know, I have bought I've spent hundreds
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Speaker 1: of dollars on traps and things. And I said, and
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Speaker 1: I've bought more apple cider vinegar than I ever have
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Speaker 1: bought in mine, for it's in every room of the house.
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Speaker 4: I'm just pouring it bowls all over the place. And
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Speaker 4: she goes, they are very hard to.
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Speaker 2: Get rid of. Once you get you get them. And
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Speaker 2: she goes.
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Speaker 4: But are they better? I go, They're way better. They're
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Speaker 4: way better.
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Speaker 1: And I don't mind if I see one here or there,
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Speaker 1: I said, but you know, I got to wash my face.
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Speaker 1: They were die bombing when I was washing my face.
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Speaker 1: I said, at least they're not doing that anymore. They
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Speaker 1: do see me coming and they respectfully get to the side.
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Speaker 4: So that's good. I mean, that's good.
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Speaker 3: But unfortunately, you probably got twenty of them in the
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Speaker 3: maternity ward right now producing more babies. And they do.
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Speaker 4: They gotta, they gotta produce fifty at.
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Speaker 3: A time, and all their last name is gonna be Gilbert,
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Speaker 3: little Gilbert baby.
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Speaker 4: It's gonna be like a twenty three and me scandal,
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Speaker 4: you know. And they Oh my god, they've got to
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Speaker 4: get out of here.
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Speaker 1: Well anyway, guys, So I'll be dealing with them till
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Speaker 1: next Wednesday until the supervisor could come by. But I
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Speaker 1: do feel that what I have done in the double
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Speaker 1: bombing hustle. I did throw away my toothbrush though, because
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Speaker 1: it was sitting on the counter and I got a
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Speaker 1: little holder and I got I think.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna have to I gotta have to know that's.
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Speaker 4: Not that's not.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I throw away my husband's No, but I should.
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Speaker 1: I should let him know to bring a.
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Speaker 3: New tooth I am going to message him myself, I say,
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Speaker 3: I think she's plotting on.
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Speaker 4: You, Dave, because you need a new toothbrush.
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Speaker 2: That would be such a good dateline.
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Speaker 1: It would be like they came and bombed the house
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Speaker 1: for something and they didn't think about their items on
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Speaker 1: the counter, and that was the way that that was
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Speaker 1: the way that she got rid of her husband. She
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Speaker 1: had the house like bombed for fleas, but left all
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Speaker 1: his shit that he uses, and then you put it
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Speaker 1: onto his face and was poisoned.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Dave, you might want to be a little
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Speaker 3: concerned because she came up with that way too quick.
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Speaker 2: Nobody steal it. Nobody steal it. Y'all.
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Speaker 1: Speaking to criminals and criminal activity, let's talk about Family
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Speaker 1: lock Up. Okay, guys. So this is a show. It's
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Speaker 1: on A and E. So if you happen to miss
10:11
Speaker 1: it and you're just getting the recap, you could probably go.
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Speaker 1: I believe A and E has an app. I remember
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Speaker 1: last year I kind of like watched it on an
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Speaker 1: A and E app on my TV and so, but
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Speaker 1: if you want to record it, it's on A and
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Speaker 1: E ten pm on Thursday nights. It's called Family lock Up.
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Speaker 1: It's uh, we were not to know. We went to
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Speaker 1: expect so I'm glad that this first episode we kind
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Speaker 1: of got it out of the way, so now we
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Speaker 1: know we'll be able to like roll through this a
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Speaker 1: little quicker as far as me like doing the notes
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Speaker 1: and us knowing the theme of the show. But this is
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Speaker 1: done by the same production company that is sixty Days In,
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Speaker 1: which in my opinion, has done a lot better than this.
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Speaker 4: This is the first season, so they're going to see
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Speaker 4: how it does.
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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, we'll see.
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Speaker 1: So this first couple that we have this is this
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Speaker 1: is a man named Rick and a kid named Darren.
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Speaker 1: My computer just kept correcting it to the right spelling
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Speaker 1: of Darren, and at one point.
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Speaker 4: I was like, okay, you know what.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So the premise of the show, guys were in Springfield, Massachusetts. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Massachusetts is impossible for me to say, so I'm never
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Speaker 1: gonna say it again. Really, I can't say Massachusetts Massachusetts.
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Speaker 2: It's one of those words.
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Speaker 1: So we share see a guy named Sheriff Coachi, which
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Speaker 1: I just immediately was like, Sheriff Coucie. Like it it's
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Speaker 1: quite a name. I gotta call him Coucie. So Sheriff
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Speaker 1: Coochie says for a lot of inmates. Jail is a
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Speaker 1: revolving door, and inmates with no family support are more
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Speaker 1: likely to return to jail. And for these inmates, this
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Speaker 1: is their last chance. This program that he's doing is
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to mend the broken bond and prove to
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Speaker 1: their family members that they're gonna get it right this time.
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Speaker 1: Darren is not interested in getting it right this time.
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Speaker 3: No, And I felt like he and Rick need it
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Speaker 3: more than two days a week.
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Speaker 4: This is ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: Surely they film twenty five hours of therapy and we
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Speaker 1: only get twenty minutes because this is crazy, and we're
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Speaker 1: gonna get to do this very It.
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Speaker 3: Was very quick, and I was just like two two days,
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Speaker 3: and one of the days they're not even together.
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Speaker 2: This is no, it's a bad plan.
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Speaker 1: So we get a black screen of death that tells
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Speaker 1: us this is a program where ordinary citizens will participate
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Speaker 1: in an unprecedented program, spending forty eight hours in jail
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Speaker 1: living as inmates to confront a loved one. They'll be
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Speaker 1: housed with real inmates, not really, they're by themselves. These
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Speaker 1: inmates need to repair their relationships to stay out of jail.
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Speaker 1: Family members will decide if they're going to stay in
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Speaker 1: the inmates' lives or.
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Speaker 4: Cut ties forever.
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Speaker 2: So dramatic doesn't need to be.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't need to be.
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Speaker 3: It cut Well, it's the first episode, so you got
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Speaker 3: to get people worked up, get that blood flowing a
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Speaker 3: little bit, get them mixed about what's going on. They
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Speaker 3: made it sound a lot more serious to what we
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Speaker 3: actually see. Yeah, yeah, but I could, I could, I
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Speaker 3: could appreciate.
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Speaker 4: A little drama. Yeah, dramatization.
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Speaker 1: We first meet Rick Sampson. Okay, Rick is sixty three
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Speaker 1: from New Hampshire. He is Darren's father. He says he's
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Speaker 1: gonna find out if Darren is ready to join the
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Speaker 1: family because on drugs, he's not Darren, he's a monster.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this, Rick's teeth. We're most definitely ready
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Speaker 3: for prison.
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Speaker 2: Rick with fit right in.
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Speaker 4: He well, not on the teeth.
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Speaker 3: He's gonna walk into prison looking like the leader of
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Speaker 3: the Aryan Nations.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 4: I was like, uh, I think Rick's gonna fit right
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Speaker 4: on and like they're gonna accept him.
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Speaker 2: Like yep, yep, I agree. Oh that's a big one.
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Speaker 4: Sorry, pregnant returnity war, I.
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Speaker 2: Gotta put that one right. We're delivery ooh, that was
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Speaker 2: a big one.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 1: So okay, So in twenty seventeen, Darren was charged with manslaughter.
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Speaker 1: So we're like, whoa, this is different. So his girlfriend
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Speaker 1: overdosed and died of heroin soil. He was charged with manslaughter.
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Speaker 1: He was in for two and a half years. Two
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Speaker 1: and a half years. A girl died two and a
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Speaker 1: half years.
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Speaker 4: That sounds about right though, for manslaughter.
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Speaker 1: With drugs, because it sounds like unless he's injecting her
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Speaker 1: against her will, drugs, his drugs, she's a participant.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's a weird one right there, with drugs.
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Speaker 4: Yeahah.
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Speaker 2: So did you ever watch Breaking Bad? Have we talked
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Speaker 2: about this?
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Speaker 4: Which one is the one where the guy would cancer
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Speaker 4: makes the math? Yeah? That's Breaking Bad. I've been on
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Speaker 4: season one for like a year.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you got it. Just just just do it, just
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Speaker 1: do it. It's so there is a situation like this.
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Speaker 1: I won't tell you spoiler for you, even as the
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Speaker 1: show is now twenty years old.
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Speaker 4: But there is a situation like this.
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Speaker 2: So okay, so now he's back in.
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Speaker 1: So he was in for two and a half years,
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Speaker 1: but now he's back in reviolating parole because of drugs.
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Speaker 1: He's in a fourteen month sentence currently, but he sets
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Speaker 1: to be released in six months. Okay when okay, Rick
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Speaker 1: tells us when I first met my wife, Darren was
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Speaker 1: three and a half, so actually he's my step soon.
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Speaker 1: But I instantly fell in love with him. He called
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Speaker 1: me daddy. We had such joy.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 1: It's the best decision ever to be a father to Darren.
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Speaker 1: And then he says, I have a religious background, and
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Speaker 1: I believe the more good you do for the community,
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Speaker 1: the more God will bless you. Okay, So we're just
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Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, he's always been religious and at some
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Speaker 1: point Darren was like this is not the life for me.
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Speaker 1: But no, he didn't turn religious till later.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And sometimes I have found that when people I rather
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Speaker 3: someone say they have on spirituality than religion, because now
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Speaker 3: you're in a box. And if it's when people find
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Speaker 3: it later in life, it's just something about it.
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Speaker 4: They become laser.
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Speaker 3: Focused the religion, like it's almost holt like like, yeah, we.
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Speaker 1: Have a girl like that on ninety day UK right
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Speaker 1: now who became a age forty something.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like they become like so obsessed with
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Speaker 3: it more so than someone who was just raised in
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Speaker 3: the church. And you know what I mean, they become
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Speaker 3: laser focused and very.
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Speaker 4: Judgmental sometimes.
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Speaker 2: Even though they've done these things themselves, right exactly.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and he you know, so he gets books, he
16:45
Speaker 1: gets as much shot never to get the you know,
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Speaker 1: the real experience whatever. And he says, at age thirteen,
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Speaker 1: I told Darren I wasn't his biological dad, Well, why
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Speaker 1: be an asshole?
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Speaker 4: And he did it to be an.
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Speaker 3: Asshole because Darren upset him about something, wasn't doing whatever
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Speaker 3: whatever he thought he should be doing. So to hurt
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17:09
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17:13
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17:15
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17:16
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17:20
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17:28
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17:31
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17:33
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17:35
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17:39
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17:41
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17:42
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17:45
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17:51
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17:53
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17:55
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20:11
Speaker 4: But that's what he looks like.
20:15
Speaker 3: Wow, he ain't got a tooth to his name, He
20:19
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20:21
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20:24
Speaker 4: He's got pretty eyes. That's that I can give him.
20:27
Speaker 2: That he's a mush mouth. It's bad, so well he is.
20:31
Speaker 4: She ain't got no God.
20:34
Speaker 2: He smoked those heroin, those teeth right out.
20:36
Speaker 4: Of his head, so yes, he did so.
20:39
Speaker 1: Then when he when he got out of the manslaughter thing,
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Speaker 1: he moved it with his parents to get clean.
20:45
Speaker 2: But he's aid, but we found syringes. We had to
20:46
Speaker 2: kick him out.
20:47
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him in seven months and I
20:50
Speaker 1: want to know that my son this time will try
20:52
Speaker 1: to quit drugs and get clean.
20:53
Speaker 4: Like this is it? Okay.
20:55
Speaker 2: So we walked into Boson.
20:56
Speaker 1: We hear everybody's yelling, right, everybodys yelling, which okay, I
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Speaker 3: What Every time that the what do you call the prison,
21:05
Speaker 3: the prison guards would have like closed the door clank.
21:08
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21:10
Speaker 3: not for real, right, you guys, there's a code.
21:13
Speaker 4: There's a code I can hit right when I need
21:15
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21:17
Speaker 3: I would constantly be reminding him, I'm not a real prisoner,
21:21
Speaker 3: Please don't lock my door, Like well.
21:24
Speaker 2: It's interesting.
21:26
Speaker 1: When he was doing all the mugshot and stuff, they
21:28
Speaker 1: had the door closed and they said, I need you
21:30
Speaker 1: to strip down.
21:30
Speaker 4: We have to do a visual check.
21:31
Speaker 2: We you know, for the real prisoners they do spread
21:34
Speaker 2: at and cough.
21:34
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I wonder if they did that
21:37
Speaker 1: to him. No, because they said, we just need to
21:39
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21:41
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21:43
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21:44
Speaker 4: Okay.
21:44
Speaker 3: Can you imagine the scripture that he would have foraid.
21:48
Speaker 3: He would have been speaking in tongues.
21:54
Speaker 4: Yep. So okay.
21:57
Speaker 1: So we met Darren, Darren's forty one, and he said,
22:00
Speaker 1: you know, my dad was always my dad. He was outdoorsy,
22:02
Speaker 1: he liked hiking. We had a great time. But the
22:05
Speaker 1: rifts started with my parents when Rick really got into religion.
22:11
Speaker 1: He had a pregnant girlfriend when he was seventeen, and
22:14
Speaker 1: his parents cut him off. Rick didn't tell us that part.
22:17
Speaker 4: Man.
22:17
Speaker 3: They also didn't tell us what happened to that kid,
22:20
Speaker 3: like did she lose the baby? Does she have the baby?
22:22
Speaker 3: We only know that about the baby from.
22:25
Speaker 4: The white right.
22:26
Speaker 2: We don't know about that. We don't know about the seventeen.
22:30
Speaker 1: And he says, so, so we don't know what happened
22:32
Speaker 1: to baby number one. And then he met his wife
22:35
Speaker 1: at thirty. She got pregnant. He took her to the
22:38
Speaker 1: hospital for a severe headache, they said, dated her for
22:41
Speaker 1: a c section and she died. Oh god, that's just
22:45
Speaker 1: that's traumatic.
22:46
Speaker 4: It is traumatic. Yeah. Yeah.
22:48
Speaker 2: And after that.
22:49
Speaker 1: He dove into drugs. So it's like, was he he
22:52
Speaker 1: was only doing like pot or pills before that, but
22:54
Speaker 1: after that he was like, well, I've got no reason
22:55
Speaker 1: to lit.
22:57
Speaker 2: Straight to heroin.
22:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm a sue and we don't know what
23:02
Speaker 3: happened to that baby either.
23:03
Speaker 2: We just know, oh we do know it's alive, right,
23:06
Speaker 2: but we don't know.
23:07
Speaker 3: We know it's alive, like got adopted with the family member.
23:10
Speaker 1: We don't know, right, we don't know. So he says, yeah,
23:13
Speaker 1: like you know, I just use Heroin to escape. And
23:16
Speaker 1: they said, what does your dad think of all this?
23:18
Speaker 2: Because I don't know. We don't talk.
23:20
Speaker 1: So we see all his drawings, and everybody's in prison
23:23
Speaker 1: like really hyping him up about his drawings.
23:24
Speaker 4: His drawings are talented, look talented. That's all we have.
23:29
Speaker 4: Was like, okay, okay.
23:32
Speaker 2: Person talented and he's prison talented.
23:34
Speaker 1: And in my mind, I'm like, okay, so he could
23:37
Speaker 1: get out and maybe you go to art school, you
23:39
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just like yeah.
23:40
Speaker 4: Something something. Yeah, he's got to start. He's got to start, right,
23:45
Speaker 4: He's got a something. Yeah.
23:47
Speaker 1: So he says he didn't have any guidance growing up
23:50
Speaker 1: and he just needs a supportive role model. He's very
23:53
Speaker 1: happy his dad's coming.
23:54
Speaker 4: Okay.
23:55
Speaker 1: Day one, Rick says, I'm not sure what's gonna happen,
23:59
Speaker 1: but I'm here because I love my son. Rick will
24:01
Speaker 1: be housed away from his son for the next twenty
24:03
Speaker 1: four hours so we can experience life as an inmate.
24:06
Speaker 1: Why you're wasting After the experiment, I'm like.
24:10
Speaker 3: No, I need to be with my child and he protection.
24:13
Speaker 3: I don't need to try. This is not my walk.
24:17
Speaker 3: I don't need to be by myself at all.
24:19
Speaker 1: They put him in a cell together and let him
24:21
Speaker 1: stay and let him like work it out in the
24:22
Speaker 1: cell together.
24:23
Speaker 2: In addition to the therapy.
24:25
Speaker 4: I agree.
24:26
Speaker 1: So everybody's yelling in the prison and the guard is like, okay, look,
24:31
Speaker 1: you know when I'm when you're walking around, your number
24:33
Speaker 1: one rule is head on.
24:34
Speaker 4: A swivel, head on a swivel.
24:35
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:36
Speaker 1: They put him in a single cell and so they go, okay,
24:39
Speaker 1: now it's open time.
24:40
Speaker 2: It's wreck time.
24:41
Speaker 1: So he walks out to the yard and everybody's giving
24:44
Speaker 1: him the look because he's new right, and everybody's staring
24:46
Speaker 1: at him. He's walking around. God, Bless, bless God, as men,
24:51
Speaker 1: you are the army of God. As men, you are
24:53
Speaker 1: in this prison. You can free yourself. And they're all
24:56
Speaker 1: like we good, no, back up, Jesus freak. And they're like, now,
25:01
Speaker 1: we know, to leave him alone.
25:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, can you imagine doing that? Like, I don't know,
25:05
Speaker 4: on your first.
25:05
Speaker 3: Day of high school at school, you would get punched
25:10
Speaker 3: upside the head for saying some shit like that. Like yeah,
25:15
Speaker 3: but here's the thing. What do you do on your
25:18
Speaker 3: first day of prison? How do you what do you say?
25:21
Speaker 3: Do you just go up and say, hi, my name
25:23
Speaker 3: is how are you?
25:24
Speaker 4: I'm in for this? Like what? What?
25:27
Speaker 3: What is the first step that you do to start
25:30
Speaker 3: off a conversation in prison?
25:31
Speaker 4: Not not not what Rick did.
25:33
Speaker 1: Not not that I think Rick had a good plan
25:35
Speaker 1: because he's like, I'm gonna go in there like a
25:37
Speaker 1: full crazy and they're going to be alone. Yeah yeah, hm,
25:41
Speaker 1: although for him it wasn't crazy, but you know, he
25:43
Speaker 1: seems crazy to those other people, and these are people
25:45
Speaker 1: with face tattoos. Okay, now we get doctor Jeff Guardier.
25:52
Speaker 1: Doctor Jeff is going to meet with Darren to get
25:54
Speaker 1: a better understanding of how to help him and Rick
25:56
Speaker 1: resolve their issues. And immediately I was like, we know
26:00
Speaker 1: doctor Jeff.
26:02
Speaker 3: We've seen doctor Jeff Jeff of so many things, and
26:06
Speaker 3: not just on A and E.
26:08
Speaker 4: I was like, doctor Jeff, come to me. Okay, so
26:12
Speaker 4: let me. I'm gonna explain to you all about doctor Jeff.
26:14
Speaker 4: First of all, I do.
26:15
Speaker 1: I've seen him on Atlanta, So I looked it up.
26:18
Speaker 1: I was like, is he Drew Sodora's therapists? No, doctor
26:23
Speaker 1: Drew's Sodora has somebody else. But I think he was
26:25
Speaker 1: like Niini's therapist.
26:27
Speaker 4: Yes he was. He was, and he's.
26:30
Speaker 2: Also been on Potomac.
26:32
Speaker 4: But I could remember what he was like, I said,
26:35
Speaker 4: not just on A and E.
26:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, he moves around.
26:40
Speaker 4: Let me give you.
26:40
Speaker 1: Let me give you about doctor Jeff's bio. Okay, So
26:43
Speaker 1: he went to g W and then after he so
26:46
Speaker 1: he has it. He has a PhD and a He's
26:50
Speaker 1: got two PhDs.
26:51
Speaker 2: Whatever, So he is.
26:52
Speaker 4: He is actually like highly educated.
26:54
Speaker 1: He worked as a stuff psychologist for the Federal Bureau
26:58
Speaker 1: of Prisons. He to chief psychologists in the Federal Bureau
27:02
Speaker 1: of Prisons, only one of two African American chief psychologists
27:06
Speaker 1: at the time. During his tenure, he was instrumental in
27:09
Speaker 1: designing a psychological treatment for HIV infected prisoners, and he
27:15
Speaker 1: helped negotiate hostage negotiations in the Atlanta prisons. Each unitey
27:19
Speaker 1: eighty seven. He's a professor and Course directoral of Behavioral
27:24
Speaker 1: Medicine at Turo College of Osteopathic Medicine in New York City.
27:28
Speaker 4: Then he gives the all.
27:29
Speaker 1: He's been on a show called Dad Camp, he was
27:32
Speaker 1: on Real Housewives of Atlanta, Real House House of Potomac,
27:34
Speaker 1: Love and Hip Hop Love and Hip Hop Atlanta, Celebrity
27:38
Speaker 1: Damage Control, and a show called They Got Away with
27:40
Speaker 1: It on the Real Channel. He has six children and
27:44
Speaker 1: he's Catholic.
27:46
Speaker 4: Well that goes together. Yeah, he's in six skates.
27:52
Speaker 1: He's an ordained interfaith minister and has written a book
27:56
Speaker 1: called The Causes of Autism?
28:00
Speaker 4: What what did that? Okay?
28:03
Speaker 1: And Uh, he's written a bunch of books about African
28:05
Speaker 1: American men and women in relationships. And when you go
28:08
Speaker 1: to his website, which is like doctor Jeffguardier dot com
28:12
Speaker 1: or whatever, it gives you all this information and it's
28:15
Speaker 1: a picture of him kind of looking like he does
28:16
Speaker 1: on the show, like in his coat. And then as
28:18
Speaker 1: you're scrolling down, a picture just zooms across the screen
28:21
Speaker 1: and it's him in a leather jacket with like stars
28:24
Speaker 1: and stripes all over it at all leather.
28:27
Speaker 3: Now, I've not seen that side of him before, but
28:30
Speaker 3: I will tell you he loves the phrase what the hell?
28:35
Speaker 4: He says it.
28:35
Speaker 3: Also, I have seen him on Atlanta, Potomac Love and
28:38
Speaker 3: hip hop.
28:40
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
28:40
Speaker 4: What else have I seen? Like this was not a
28:43
Speaker 4: new face room.
28:43
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, hey, I don't think this is doctor
28:47
Speaker 1: Jeff's wheelhouse. I know that he started off this way,
28:53
Speaker 1: but I don't think doctor Jeff is somebody that these prisoners, men, women, white,
28:58
Speaker 1: black are going to relate to.
29:01
Speaker 3: Well, it's especially not after two sessions.
29:06
Speaker 1: No, and the way he's like dressed and the way
29:08
Speaker 1: he appears, I don't think these guys are like, oh, yeah,
29:11
Speaker 1: this is a guy that relates to us and can
29:13
Speaker 1: has walked our walk?
29:15
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
29:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, that's true. That's true.
29:19
Speaker 1: So doctor Jeff meets with Darren and Darren tells him
29:23
Speaker 1: that a friend of mine odeed when he was his girlfriend.
29:26
Speaker 1: He says, a friend of mine odeed. I got charged.
29:28
Speaker 1: Drugs have been a part of my life, but they
29:31
Speaker 1: really became a problem when my wife died in twenty twelve.
29:34
Speaker 1: I miss her every day. I loved her.
29:36
Speaker 2: His son is now eleven, but we don't know information.
29:40
Speaker 4: He says.
29:40
Speaker 1: He says, my son is not in my life at all.
29:42
Speaker 1: I didn't haven't seen him since twenty sixteen, so that's it.
29:45
Speaker 4: So he's probably with the wife's.
29:47
Speaker 2: Family, must be.
29:49
Speaker 4: Doctor Jeff has on quite a ring here. Did you
29:52
Speaker 4: just see that ring?
29:53
Speaker 3: Look, doctor Jeff has just a touch of sex to him.
29:58
Speaker 1: He does, and that's why I was very surprised he
30:00
Speaker 1: had six children.
30:03
Speaker 3: Ah, Okay, I had a pick up on that.
30:06
Speaker 4: Now. Yeah, No, he has a touch of sass. So yeah,
30:09
Speaker 4: not as much zip sass as Zuria's dad goes. I
30:13
Speaker 4: was just thinking of Aria's dad.
30:15
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you don't have that much sass, but he's
30:18
Speaker 3: supposed to definitely got a sprinkle of sas in them.
30:21
Speaker 4: He for sure, he for sure does.
30:24
Speaker 1: He is a super super educated guy, and I think
30:28
Speaker 1: very qualified.
30:29
Speaker 4: But I think you need.
30:30
Speaker 1: To come in in more like jeans and a zip
30:34
Speaker 1: up in this situation, you know what I mean.
30:36
Speaker 2: You don't need to be like.
30:37
Speaker 4: Flashy flashy for the housewives. Yes, you know, of course.
30:42
Speaker 4: So Darren, okay, blah blah blah blah blah.
30:46
Speaker 2: Anyway, the ring.
30:47
Speaker 1: Okay, So Darren explains, when my dad became super religious,
30:51
Speaker 1: he started taking care of other people more than us,
30:55
Speaker 1: and I was very resentful of that. And Jeff says, well,
30:58
Speaker 1: then how did your parents rack when your wife died?
31:01
Speaker 1: And he goes, they weren't involved, And then Jeff says, then.
31:05
Speaker 4: Why the hell? Why the hell would you want him here?
31:11
Speaker 4: He loves saying what the hell?
31:14
Speaker 3: And he says in it like I have seen it
31:17
Speaker 3: on each episode that I've seen this man on since,
31:20
Speaker 3: same expression, same head, movement, that is this thing right there?
31:25
Speaker 4: He should write a book that says what the hell
31:29
Speaker 4: he should it.
31:30
Speaker 1: It's like it's like, doctor Phil, how's that working out
31:32
Speaker 1: for you? That's his cat? What the hell is this cat?
31:35
Speaker 4: Yes?
31:35
Speaker 2: Okay?
31:36
Speaker 4: And I hate this so much for Darren because he's
31:39
Speaker 4: so right.
31:40
Speaker 3: It is this this later in life, religious people they
31:45
Speaker 3: see the world as being more important than the people in.
31:48
Speaker 4: Their household, which goes completely against what.
31:52
Speaker 3: Christianity is about. Right, you start at home, that's your core,
31:57
Speaker 3: that's your foundation.
31:58
Speaker 4: But you ignore them.
32:00
Speaker 3: Oh he's cracked out, No big deal. But this crack
32:02
Speaker 3: head over here in a straight corner needs to be
32:04
Speaker 3: more right. It just doesn't make sense to me at all.
32:09
Speaker 4: That's that was.
32:10
Speaker 1: Pretty interesting that we you know that that that Rick
32:12
Speaker 1: didn't tell us this, right, of course not No, So
32:16
Speaker 1: Darren says. Another thing is like, when I get out,
32:20
Speaker 1: I really want to get out of this area where
32:22
Speaker 1: I've had problems. I want to go and be with
32:24
Speaker 1: them in New Hampshire. And Jeff says, but what are
32:26
Speaker 1: your very specific plans for staying off of heroin? And
32:30
Speaker 1: he goes, well, right now, I wants to box on
32:31
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm okay with being on it. It's
32:33
Speaker 1: great actually, and sometimes you know, I abuse it and
32:35
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest and I'm okay.
32:37
Speaker 3: He doesn't know how to be clean. No, always, he
32:41
Speaker 3: needs a crutch all the time. It's something to fall
32:43
Speaker 3: back on because he's not okay up here.
32:47
Speaker 2: No, it's so many years of abuse.
32:49
Speaker 1: It's not his you know, you have to psychologically fix
32:52
Speaker 1: yourself before, like, yes, your body has.
32:54
Speaker 4: To be clean before your mind can be clean, you know. Yeah,
32:57
Speaker 4: And his body has not never been clean, never been clean.
33:00
Speaker 3: And then he's got to figure out a way that
33:03
Speaker 3: how to deal with the death of his wife. I mean,
33:05
Speaker 3: just can you imagine you're planning this baby, your wife
33:09
Speaker 3: has she probably had pre clampsy. If I'm thinking, right,
33:13
Speaker 3: she goes to the hospital and you come home with
33:15
Speaker 3: the baby.
33:15
Speaker 4: But not with your wife. And then the next thing happens,
33:18
Speaker 4: you have a girlfriend ode and die right in front
33:20
Speaker 4: of you. So that's two deaths right there.
33:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does see that.
33:24
Speaker 1: Concerned about the girlfriend though, honestly, and you know as
33:29
Speaker 1: a friend of mine she died whatever, but he's probably like,
33:32
Speaker 1: that's suppressing that as well, you know.
33:34
Speaker 4: Of course. Yeah, So doctor Jeff says, look.
33:37
Speaker 1: That pain that you're holding is eating you up, and
33:39
Speaker 1: it's okay to let it out, brother, And because he
33:42
Speaker 1: kind of starts to tear up, and he says, not
33:44
Speaker 1: in here, and Jeff says, yeah, you can't medicate it away.
33:49
Speaker 4: You have to work through it. You have to go
33:51
Speaker 4: through it to get to the other side, right. So
33:53
Speaker 4: he ain't ready for that.
33:55
Speaker 1: So the unit manager, Oh, I'm just trying to look.
33:58
Speaker 1: I feel like one of my sorry, I feel like
34:01
Speaker 1: one of my settings just went wonky. But it didn't,
34:04
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I got like a little
34:05
Speaker 1: alert different.
34:06
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you.
34:07
Speaker 1: So the unit manager comes and gets Rick and goes
34:11
Speaker 1: so you never visited him in prison, like you're never
34:14
Speaker 1: on this list, and he goes mm hmm, and I
34:16
Speaker 1: couldn't have come to visit him.
34:18
Speaker 2: And the guy goes, Okay, well, i'll tell you.
34:19
Speaker 1: Since he's been here, he's been caught with drugs a
34:21
Speaker 1: couple of times, like a K two, a synthetic pot,
34:24
Speaker 1: and also.
34:25
Speaker 2: He had a dirty P test in February, he said.
34:29
Speaker 4: You know.
34:29
Speaker 1: The guy says, look, he's a long way for being
34:32
Speaker 1: self sufficient and being a little bit sober in here
34:35
Speaker 1: is bad because when they get out, they go right
34:38
Speaker 1: back to it and they never dose.
34:40
Speaker 3: And we've seen that happen on so many, so many times,
34:44
Speaker 3: so many shows. I mean I used to watch Intervention
34:46
Speaker 3: and stuff like that as well.
34:47
Speaker 4: Like it's a little bit off script, but I don't
34:51
Speaker 4: know if you've ever watched the show Intervention.
34:54
Speaker 2: He used to come on any Too Close to Home.
34:58
Speaker 4: And I fell in love with two krukhad others like
35:00
Speaker 4: you did. How were there they dead? One of them
35:03
Speaker 4: is dead.
35:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of them was in a wheelchair. Uh, he
35:06
Speaker 3: had gotten into an ATV accident.
35:08
Speaker 4: But I totally fell in love, like girl like total
35:12
Speaker 4: crushing on those two brothers. And yeah, one of them
35:15
Speaker 4: did die too.
35:18
Speaker 1: When my husband was in rehabit I went to visit him.
35:21
Speaker 1: There was a guy there that was like a former
35:22
Speaker 1: Calvin Clin model.
35:24
Speaker 4: Oh wow.
35:25
Speaker 1: And when I tell you, I could his name was Michael.
35:27
Speaker 1: I couldn't look at him in the eye. He was
35:29
Speaker 1: so attractive, like I would be like look, I would
35:30
Speaker 1: like look. And I remember saying, Todave, you didn't tell
35:33
Speaker 1: me you looked like that. And Davidson was kind of
35:36
Speaker 1: not important.
35:37
Speaker 3: Like, uh, I'm here for different reasons to be looking
35:42
Speaker 3: at the Calvin kleinb model.
35:43
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, this guy, Michael was a heroin addict and his
35:47
Speaker 1: brother was a heroin addict. And later, like right when
35:51
Speaker 1: Dave got out of rehab, like within the month, Michael's
35:54
Speaker 1: brother died and we and.
35:56
Speaker 2: We went to the funeral. Oh but yeah, like I
35:59
Speaker 2: was like, we did.
36:01
Speaker 4: Oh terrible.
36:02
Speaker 1: Anyway, I think Dave thinks that Michael has since died,
36:06
Speaker 1: but we don't know because it's like no, but I've
36:08
Speaker 1: read articles that the mom has been interviewed in articles
36:11
Speaker 1: because she was like, uh, you know, they were all
36:13
Speaker 1: like they were like in a very fancy family, like
36:15
Speaker 1: in Potomac or somewhere, and very like super fancy. And
36:19
Speaker 1: the mom has been interviewed a lot about like having
36:22
Speaker 1: these two sons on heroin. It doesn't matter you're associoconomic status.
36:25
Speaker 1: It could come for anybody.
36:26
Speaker 4: And of course yeah it was. It was really the
36:29
Speaker 4: whole thing was interesting, but really sad because so hot.
36:32
Speaker 4: So I don't know, I wasted all that hot hotness.
36:36
Speaker 1: That calm cloan model is okay, So he knew it too.
36:40
Speaker 1: You could tell when he looked at me. He was like, yeah,
36:44
Speaker 1: so hot, had that like dark black hair, but like
36:46
Speaker 1: those blue blue eyes. You know, I can't with the
36:49
Speaker 1: eyelashes start talking shit, sigh like that. Yeah, my one
36:53
Speaker 1: little tiny Ovarie I have left. Yeah, okay, so all right,
36:58
Speaker 1: back to these people. So Rick is like, you know,
37:00
Speaker 1: it hurts to hear the truth as a father. You
37:02
Speaker 1: know that he's still using whatever, but it's never too late,
37:05
Speaker 1: and I hope he can rehabilitate.
37:06
Speaker 2: That's why I'm here.
37:08
Speaker 1: Rick didn't sleep well, very loud, too much light. Bet
37:10
Speaker 1: is not designed for comfort, blah blah blah.
37:12
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, a sign for prison.
37:14
Speaker 2: Yeah.
37:15
Speaker 1: So Darren and Rick are gonna meet with doctor Jeff
37:19
Speaker 1: to confront their issues, and Darren says, on the outside,
37:22
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any friends.
37:23
Speaker 2: Anymore.
37:23
Speaker 1: He really only has his family and he's not sure
37:25
Speaker 1: what it'll take to fix this relationship. And Rick says,
37:29
Speaker 1: what he needs. I need to hear that Darren is
37:31
Speaker 1: going to be relentless in trying to get sober.
37:34
Speaker 4: Well, let's as get the fact. As soon as Rick
37:37
Speaker 4: saw dare and he started crying. Yeah. He Rick cries
37:41
Speaker 4: a lot during this episode.
37:43
Speaker 1: Well, it's emotional. He's like, I'm trying to help this kid.
37:46
Speaker 1: And also it is probably all this shit's my fault.
37:49
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think being in prison has made him realize
37:54
Speaker 3: that I contribute it to a lot of this. I
37:57
Speaker 3: most definitely have not helped the situation at all. I
38:00
Speaker 3: may be a religious piece of shit.
38:02
Speaker 4: I think it's all coming to him now because it's
38:05
Speaker 4: kind of true. He's been he's been a dick.
38:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, all this is true. So they Yeah, Well, like
38:13
Speaker 1: he said, he starts crying. Doctor Jeff saunters in the
38:16
Speaker 1: swaggers in and he says, what are the main issues here?
38:21
Speaker 1: And Darren says religion, And he says, my dad cared
38:25
Speaker 1: about other people at the church and didn't care about us,
38:28
Speaker 1: and and Rick goes, yeah, I probably neglected the family.
38:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think he was going to agree. I
38:35
Speaker 3: thought that's not true.
38:37
Speaker 2: That praised Jesus.
38:38
Speaker 1: You know, yes, good for you, Rick, and he says,
38:42
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of conflict over the years. And
38:45
Speaker 1: Jeff says, at one point, your son came to live
38:47
Speaker 1: with you. What happened and Rick says, well, your mother
38:49
Speaker 1: didn't ask me, and you just showed up. And then
38:52
Speaker 1: when you did come, I thought you were in a
38:54
Speaker 1: better place. And I knew I thought you were in
38:58
Speaker 1: a better place and knew what you needed to do
39:00
Speaker 1: to get help. And Darren says, well, when I went there,
39:03
Speaker 1: I was off drugs, and dad says, but he slowly
39:05
Speaker 1: started going out to drink and it slowly started creeping in.
39:08
Speaker 1: And then this girlfriend would come up and they had
39:11
Speaker 1: a tent outside.
39:14
Speaker 3: No explanation about why they were in a tent, none
39:17
Speaker 3: at all, because if you're maybe where they're from, that's normal.
39:21
Speaker 1: Maybe it was like, if the girlfriend comes, you're not
39:23
Speaker 1: allowed to stay in the house with the girlfriends, so
39:26
Speaker 1: you have to be in a tent in the yard.
39:28
Speaker 1: And Rick says, I didn't tell anybody. I didn't know
39:30
Speaker 1: what to do. I just disconnected more, you know, from
39:33
Speaker 1: my son so Jeff says, okay, Darren, what's your plan
39:36
Speaker 1: for rehab.
39:37
Speaker 2: You're going to do a twelve step program.
39:38
Speaker 1: He goes, No, I'm not going to do any kind
39:40
Speaker 1: of program because when I go there, I only meet
39:42
Speaker 1: people who want to use drugs.
39:43
Speaker 2: Well, you got to be looking for that.
39:45
Speaker 4: You good, you got look for that.
39:47
Speaker 3: They're not passing out business cards saying hey, if you
39:50
Speaker 3: need heroin, call me here after twelve pm or whatever
39:54
Speaker 3: like that.
39:54
Speaker 4: No, you got to ask. Yeah, and yes, there are
39:56
Speaker 4: some people that are there and that's exactly what they do.
40:00
Speaker 4: They're only there. Yeah, you're fulfilling like a court thing
40:03
Speaker 4: and you have to do it. Yeah.
40:05
Speaker 1: And Jeff says, okay, So what about the sabox zone
40:07
Speaker 1: And he says, wellok there might be times where I
40:10
Speaker 1: want to get high, so I'm just going to abuse
40:12
Speaker 1: the sabbox zone a little instead of trying to get
40:15
Speaker 1: something else. And Dad's like, what, I don't understand this,
40:19
Speaker 1: and Dad goes, Darren goes, I'm not going to pretend
40:21
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to get high every once in
40:23
Speaker 1: a while, because I am. I'm gonna get pissed off.
40:25
Speaker 1: I've got problems, so I'll probably have to get high,
40:27
Speaker 1: and Dad's like, I didn't come here. What no, Yeah,
40:32
Speaker 1: So Darren says, you know, this is why I didn't
40:35
Speaker 1: want to come to your house in the first place.
40:37
Speaker 1: And now I find out you didn't even want me there.
40:40
Speaker 1: And Dad goes, we can't help you there. We are
40:43
Speaker 1: not trained in this, you know. And Darien says, you
40:46
Speaker 1: have to support me, you have to love me, and
40:48
Speaker 1: Dad's like, this is triggering to me, like I can't
40:50
Speaker 1: take it.
40:51
Speaker 4: Okay.
40:53
Speaker 1: Jeff goes, you're being pushed and that's good, Like you
40:55
Speaker 1: need to be triggered, like you know, We've got to
40:57
Speaker 1: work through this. So Darren says, you have to be
40:59
Speaker 1: there for me, just being honest, and Jeff says to Darren,
41:02
Speaker 1: do you have any regrets, like for your horrible behavior
41:06
Speaker 1: with your family? And he goes, yeah, but there's nothing
41:08
Speaker 1: I can do about it now.
41:10
Speaker 3: He's so it's almost like his maturity has been stunted
41:15
Speaker 3: as well, yes, because he's very immature, as some of
41:20
Speaker 3: his you know, the things that he says, like that
41:23
Speaker 3: what you just mentioned, I thought it was totally immature.
41:25
Speaker 3: That is something like a fifteen year old boy would
41:28
Speaker 3: say nothing that I can do about it.
41:31
Speaker 1: So Jeff says, all right, well, here's the homework assignment.
41:33
Speaker 1: When you feel the need to get high, I want
41:34
Speaker 1: you to think about coping mechanisms and bring these coping
41:37
Speaker 1: mechanisms back tomorrow.
41:39
Speaker 4: Let's discuss it.
41:41
Speaker 1: And Jeff says, and have you been clean since you've
41:43
Speaker 1: been here? And he goes no, And Dad's like, oh
41:46
Speaker 1: my god, me being here with him as a miracle,
41:48
Speaker 1: and Jeff goes, it's a miracle, but it's part of
41:51
Speaker 1: your healing.
41:51
Speaker 4: All right, it's a miracle. He's still alive. It's a miracle.
41:54
Speaker 4: He's still alive.
41:55
Speaker 1: Really yeah, So he says, your homework assignment, be present
41:59
Speaker 1: for your son work. Bye bye, okay, black screen of death.
42:03
Speaker 1: Rick is being transferred to Darren's unit to keep working
42:05
Speaker 1: on their issues.
42:08
Speaker 4: So, so what's his name?
42:11
Speaker 1: Darren walks out into the yard. He goes, you guys
42:14
Speaker 1: are so exciting. It looks my dad.
42:16
Speaker 4: Everybody, here's my dad.
42:17
Speaker 3: And it's like he brought his dad for donuts and
42:20
Speaker 3: dass day at elementary school.
42:22
Speaker 4: Yes, this is my dad.
42:24
Speaker 2: Meet the parents. Yeah, here's my dad.
42:27
Speaker 4: He's a religious zealot. Here's your dad.
42:28
Speaker 2: He's a firefighter.
42:29
Speaker 1: So yes, Dad meets some of his buddies, all just
42:32
Speaker 1: normal first day of school, and Darren says, yeah, you know,
42:37
Speaker 1: this is a bad cell block that I'm in because
42:39
Speaker 1: it's a lot of gang bangers here and we keep
42:41
Speaker 1: seeing ching and their faces peeking out and stuff. Darren
42:45
Speaker 1: talks to him about going to the hole, and the
42:49
Speaker 1: hole is right below where he and the fishing.
42:52
Speaker 4: With the sheets, and says, we've seen that before.
42:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a whole show about it, but I
42:58
Speaker 1: never watched it, so I don't understand.
43:00
Speaker 4: So I sent it on a couple of a couple.
43:03
Speaker 4: I may need to stop watching so many.
43:07
Speaker 3: And drugs because I feel I think at this point
43:11
Speaker 3: I can go to prison and rule the whole Goddamn you.
43:14
Speaker 4: I think you would be just fine. I think it
43:16
Speaker 4: would be okay, yeah saw in prison, Yeah you would,
43:21
Speaker 4: Yeah you would. Girls.
43:24
Speaker 1: So the next day, Rick says, I'm hoping Darren comes
43:28
Speaker 1: up with a better plan that I'm gonna abuse myle box. Okay, yeah,
43:32
Speaker 1: we're all hoping that Rick he goes I want to
43:34
Speaker 1: like come at him with a place for my heart.
43:37
Speaker 1: I want to find a way to help him recover.
43:39
Speaker 1: So they talk and He says, I want you to know, Darren,
43:44
Speaker 1: how much the family loves you, and they're gonna have
43:47
Speaker 1: so many questions about how you were.
43:48
Speaker 2: And I'm going, well, I don't have any teeth. Anybody
43:50
Speaker 2: can draw.
43:51
Speaker 3: Hopefully he didn't have teeth the last time they saw him,
43:54
Speaker 3: and this won't be such a shocker.
43:56
Speaker 4: Right, that's true.
43:57
Speaker 1: And then he goes, you can tell everybody I'm fine,
44:01
Speaker 1: but I don't want to like make any more plans
44:04
Speaker 1: with them because like, you know whatever, and then he's
44:06
Speaker 1: then Rick is like, I've got all these pictures of
44:09
Speaker 1: you when you were a little boy on the swing
44:11
Speaker 1: set and all that, and Darren's like, okay, Like, bro,
44:13
Speaker 1: I'm a heroin addict.
44:14
Speaker 2: I don't care.
44:15
Speaker 3: He also he well, he was also surprised. He was like,
44:17
Speaker 3: I didn't think you had those anymore. I think he
44:20
Speaker 3: felt like his family totally abandoned him and wanted to
44:23
Speaker 3: like erase him off the family tree.
44:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was sad.
44:26
Speaker 4: That's sad time.
44:28
Speaker 1: Day three thought this was forty eight hours. Okay, I
44:31
Speaker 1: did too, Matthew math doctor Jeff. He says, Rick, were
44:37
Speaker 1: you available to your son when his wife passed away?
44:41
Speaker 1: And Darren starts crying, and Rick says, in retrospect, I
44:44
Speaker 1: should have been there, but at the time, I was
44:47
Speaker 1: obsessed with memorizing the Bible and just trying to do
44:49
Speaker 1: good for other people, and I made other people a priority.
44:53
Speaker 4: I'm just glad that he's being honest about it. It's
44:56
Speaker 4: fucking horrible, horror.
44:58
Speaker 3: How could you not be there for your child? His
45:02
Speaker 3: wife died in child and his wife died. I mean,
45:05
Speaker 3: I know how I felt when my daughter had a
45:08
Speaker 3: very bad breakup. Hey, we were like, you know, like
45:11
Speaker 3: you're okay, you know, not just for our day, for
45:15
Speaker 3: like months, being a support system for that, yes, man,
45:19
Speaker 3: a whole wife, and you read the Bible instead.
45:23
Speaker 2: I'm like obsessed with memorizing the Bible. Wow, and.
45:29
Speaker 1: Rick goes, I have a lot of self hatred and
45:32
Speaker 1: the religion made me feel forgiven. And I was addicted
45:36
Speaker 1: to that religion and feeling forgiven, and he says. Rick
45:40
Speaker 1: says his dad was very verbally and physically abusive and
45:44
Speaker 1: made him feel like he was worth nothing, so the
45:47
Speaker 1: religion gave him.
45:49
Speaker 4: The self worth right.
45:51
Speaker 1: Yes, Jeff says, you because of your trauma, you became
45:54
Speaker 1: addicted to religion and Darren became addicted to heroin to
45:59
Speaker 1: deal with his trauma. So both of you were not
46:02
Speaker 1: so dissimilar, right, So let's wrap it up by coming
46:06
Speaker 1: up with the plan. I'm like, how are we wrapping
46:08
Speaker 1: this up? You have had two conversations, and.
46:11
Speaker 3: Then you have Darren, who's you know, admits that he
46:14
Speaker 3: has like no self worth, like he basically hates him self.
46:18
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you this that you know, I used
46:21
Speaker 3: to teach a class, a court mandated class for teens
46:25
Speaker 3: who have been caught using drugs and like repeat offenders.
46:28
Speaker 3: So they had to take my core my courses to
46:31
Speaker 3: go back to the judge to you know, get off
46:34
Speaker 3: probation or whatever they were on. And so many of
46:37
Speaker 3: them the route was self hate, self hate. And some
46:41
Speaker 3: of these kids were like fucking rich, like anything they
46:45
Speaker 3: wanted they can get them.
46:47
Speaker 4: Having money for drugs was like nothing.
46:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, but for different reasons, they were filled with so
46:52
Speaker 3: much self hate and that just was the root of it.
46:55
Speaker 3: And I think that's just I think self hate started
46:58
Speaker 3: with Darren when his dad scream you're.
46:59
Speaker 2: Not my room son.
47:01
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, yeah yeah, he was like, okay, well why
47:04
Speaker 4: didn't my real dad want me? And where is that guy. Yeah,
47:07
Speaker 4: my real dad didn't want me. Now you're saying that
47:10
Speaker 4: you don't want me.
47:11
Speaker 2: Just yeah, god yeah.
47:15
Speaker 1: So he says, Darren, what's your plan? And he goes,
47:18
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get away from this area and I'm gonna
47:20
Speaker 1: stay on my meds. And Jeff goes, but are you
47:23
Speaker 1: still planning to it? Are you still planning to abuse
47:25
Speaker 1: your meds? And he goes, I don't want to do it,
47:29
Speaker 1: but it's probably gonna happen.
47:33
Speaker 4: And it's not good here. It is not good at least?
47:36
Speaker 4: Lie shit is it?
47:37
Speaker 2: But you don't know?
47:38
Speaker 3: He's being honest if you did honest, see, I mean,
47:41
Speaker 3: if nothing else, his ass is honest, too honest.
47:45
Speaker 4: But I mean, how else are you gonna get the
47:47
Speaker 4: help you need? You can't. It's like going to therapy
47:49
Speaker 4: and you lie.
47:50
Speaker 1: Right, that's a great point, yeah, yeah, yeah, And so
47:53
Speaker 1: Jeff goes, are you gonna you still? I think you
47:55
Speaker 1: shouldn't just turn away from a twelve step program because
47:58
Speaker 1: you had some bad experiences you She still look into that,
48:02
Speaker 1: and he goes, do you think you'll be able to
48:04
Speaker 1: stop using before you get out? And he goes, no,
48:07
Speaker 1: I don't think I could stop using in here and
48:08
Speaker 1: not right away. I mean, I could try, but I
48:11
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna work. And Rick's like, I can't
48:13
Speaker 1: deal with this kid, like he doesn't even.
48:14
Speaker 2: Want to help himself.
48:17
Speaker 4: And Darren goes, Dad addiction doesn't go away, like this
48:20
Speaker 4: is fucking ridiculous. You're not hearing.
48:22
Speaker 1: The problem is Darren has never been in like an
48:26
Speaker 1: impatient ninety days right up to one year program where
48:29
Speaker 1: he is disconnected from He has no way to get
48:34
Speaker 1: drugs because if people get drugs there, they get caught
48:37
Speaker 1: and they get kicked out.
48:38
Speaker 3: You know, right, he probably hasn't. I'm thinking he's not
48:41
Speaker 3: had like a job, job. He probably can't afford it.
48:44
Speaker 3: I doubt he's got insurance for something like that.
48:46
Speaker 1: But you could go to like a state run program,
48:48
Speaker 1: and it's the bottom of the barrel that you could
48:50
Speaker 1: do it, especially if you're a peat a vender like this,
48:52
Speaker 1: you know, okay, okay, and so anyway, Jeff says, can
48:58
Speaker 1: you be there for him when he's released and starts
49:01
Speaker 1: his journey towards wellness And Rick goes, I'm gonna have
49:05
Speaker 1: to see the action, like I have to see you
49:06
Speaker 1: work on being clean or it's not gonna work out.
49:09
Speaker 1: I need you to be the loving man and son
49:12
Speaker 1: I want you to be, and not the drug.
49:14
Speaker 4: Addict, not the father.
49:16
Speaker 1: He didn't mention being a father, and Darren's because he's
49:21
Speaker 1: got one sad one to seven children. We don't know
49:23
Speaker 1: about it, right, And Darren says, well, I need to
49:26
Speaker 1: see you as my fucking father, and literally at that, Jeff,
49:32
Speaker 1: in the words of Sean Robinson of ninety Day Fiance, says, well,
49:35
Speaker 1: we're not gonna solve it today, guys, good luck.
49:38
Speaker 3: They only paid me. They only paid me till four
49:41
Speaker 3: o'clock at four to one. I'm not making money. And
49:44
Speaker 3: if it don't make money, it don't make sense.
49:46
Speaker 4: So God bless. That was crazy, and that's gonna be
49:52
Speaker 4: how each episode is. I'm sure he's gonna be the
49:55
Speaker 4: therapist for the whole season, but it's like we get
49:57
Speaker 4: ten minutes of doctor Jeff and then he's like bye bye, Yeah,
50:03
Speaker 4: So I have some assassin to do. I have assassin
50:06
Speaker 4: to do on the real house stuff. I tell him,
50:08
Speaker 4: like I was all light. I think that's way more
50:11
Speaker 4: his speed.
50:12
Speaker 1: So Rick says, Darren can be deceiving and he could
50:16
Speaker 1: just go back to the life of drugs and I
50:18
Speaker 1: expect and he expects results from me, but I expect
50:21
Speaker 1: results from him, and I'm gonna have to hold him
50:24
Speaker 1: to it. It's not going to be either at this point.
50:26
Speaker 1: It's a matter of life and death.
50:27
Speaker 4: Okay, right.
50:29
Speaker 2: Six months later, now I do like this aspect of
50:32
Speaker 2: the show. Okay, Okay, my.
50:34
Speaker 4: Heart dropped me too. Yeah.
50:37
Speaker 1: Six months later, Darren is getting ready to go. He's
50:39
Speaker 1: having having his last peanut butter milkshak.
50:42
Speaker 4: He shaved his ou. Oh that sounded good, milkshake, yum
50:47
Speaker 4: me not in prison. Well, here's the thing.
50:51
Speaker 2: We don't know how they made that.
50:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, but still a peanut butter milk shank, delicioso.
51:00
Speaker 1: And so he shaved his head, and his one buddy
51:04
Speaker 1: out in the yard area goes, man, do good. A
51:08
Speaker 1: lot of people get out and don't make it. People
51:10
Speaker 1: are dying out there, bro, it's no joke. So this
51:12
Speaker 1: sounds like maybe like a like a a prison friend,
51:16
Speaker 1: an accountability partner. It's like, don't go out there and
51:19
Speaker 1: do heroin. Yeah, cause he's he's like, I know this
51:22
Speaker 1: is my eighth time here. Yes, So he's like me,
51:25
Speaker 1: He's like, I just got a face tattoo. I'm here
51:27
Speaker 1: for a long time.
51:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, So.
51:30
Speaker 1: He tells the buddy, He tells that guy he's he says,
51:34
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm ready to stay sober. He tells us
51:36
Speaker 1: he started meditation, he started yoga. He's going to try
51:40
Speaker 1: to find a place to do yoga on the outside.
51:42
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure in New Hampshire you couldn't uh swing
51:45
Speaker 1: a dead cat and had a yoga studio.
51:47
Speaker 3: It's all, yeah, just don't go into yoga and human design.
51:51
Speaker 3: Just please, no, human design, don't do.
51:54
Speaker 4: Because sometimes those some of it, sometimes those go hand
51:58
Speaker 4: in hand.
51:59
Speaker 2: I don't thing.
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Speaker 1: Darren is at a position to human design anybody. He
52:02
Speaker 1: can't even human design himself, okay, but he.
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Speaker 4: Could draw all the pictures, the human design pictures.
52:10
Speaker 2: That's true.
52:11
Speaker 4: Good at that.
52:11
Speaker 1: And he says he's gonna be meditating on his own,
52:14
Speaker 1: and he's thinking about volunteering at a recovery center. He
52:17
Speaker 1: feels great, and he's hoping he and his dad can
52:19
Speaker 1: work on their issues and he helps. His dad will
52:21
Speaker 1: be there for him when he needs him. He doesn't
52:24
Speaker 1: never want to come back to prison, and he needs
52:27
Speaker 1: that family support.
52:28
Speaker 4: So he walks out.
52:29
Speaker 1: His dad is there he's in a blessed shirt of
52:32
Speaker 1: course because on brand and Dad says, I have to
52:36
Speaker 1: support him and be emotionally connected and be patient with him.
52:40
Speaker 1: I have to not abandon him until he starts stealing
52:42
Speaker 1: shit in my house, and then.
52:44
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to change the problems. Yeah, he says, I.
52:47
Speaker 1: Have to help him, get him on the right path.
52:48
Speaker 1: If he falters, I have to keep encouraging him. And
52:52
Speaker 1: the whole family is there to greet him.
52:54
Speaker 4: It's good to see you.
52:54
Speaker 2: Well, what happened to your teeth?
52:56
Speaker 3: So? Can you guess how many times I teared up
52:59
Speaker 3: and had to have a napkin to wipe away my
53:02
Speaker 3: tears throughing this whole episode six bingo okayna zero, including
53:10
Speaker 3: this scene, this scene right here tire.
53:13
Speaker 2: One week later, I was like, oh shit, Oh.
53:18
Speaker 4: He's fucking odd or something like that. It's scary, scary.
53:23
Speaker 1: One week later, Darren has been busy with family time,
53:26
Speaker 1: he got his job back. Let's just just know we're
53:29
Speaker 1: doing what The transition has been easy. He feels blessed.
53:34
Speaker 1: Dad is very proud of him. It's great having his
53:36
Speaker 1: son back together. They say this experience was the seed.
53:40
Speaker 1: They have a little sprout going. All right, I'm gonna
53:43
Speaker 1: need to see six months after this.
53:45
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't need one week.
53:47
Speaker 3: I mean a week is okay, it's something, but we
53:54
Speaker 3: need like six months out.
53:56
Speaker 2: We need six months out. We did six months out.
53:58
Speaker 1: And since we've never seen this show, we don't know
54:01
Speaker 1: if at the end of the entire series they'll give
54:03
Speaker 1: us updates on everybody.
54:05
Speaker 4: I hope so. I hope so too.
54:07
Speaker 2: And if not, I'm gonna have.
54:08
Speaker 4: To call doctor Jeff. I'm have to call doctor Jeff
54:11
Speaker 4: and file.
54:12
Speaker 3: A formal complaint and give him a double snap. Okay,
54:15
Speaker 3: you just get ready for some sss because he's not
54:17
Speaker 3: gonna you charge him up like that. Okay, and you
54:20
Speaker 3: might as well get ready because he gonna call you
54:22
Speaker 3: a bitch.
54:23
Speaker 4: So I'm just saying, what the hell, don't call me hell? Yes, exactly.
54:32
Speaker 1: So guys, we are covering this. This will come out
54:34
Speaker 1: every Friday on the Free Feed. It comes out on
54:36
Speaker 1: Thursday A and E ten pm Eastern, and so watch it.
54:38
Speaker 4: Let us know what you think.
54:40
Speaker 1: Keisha and I do love to talk about prison and inmates.
54:43
Speaker 1: We're not sure how this became our thing, but it is.
54:46
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was telling dand that we were doing a
54:48
Speaker 4: new show. He's like, what's the new show?
54:50
Speaker 3: So he goes, so, y'all might as well just have
54:53
Speaker 3: a whole section of Pink Shade that is devoted to
54:56
Speaker 3: nothing but prison shows.
54:58
Speaker 4: I'm like, did we really do that many prison shows?
55:00
Speaker 2: But you know, we also do Love is Blind, and
55:02
Speaker 2: that starts out as a prison.
55:03
Speaker 4: Show because they're all locked up. Yeah, they can't contact
55:08
Speaker 4: their family and friends. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe we've
55:13
Speaker 4: got something going on up here that was fascinating.
55:18
Speaker 2: It's fascinating. It's fascinating.
55:20
Speaker 1: Did you ever have you ever watched a whole season
55:23
Speaker 1: of Sixty Days In because it is it is really
55:26
Speaker 1: interesting because the people from the outside going and pretend
55:28
Speaker 1: to be prisoners, and it's it's a lot about not
55:31
Speaker 1: getting caught that you're that you're pretending to be a prisoner.
55:34
Speaker 1: It's a lot about like I think they got me
55:36
Speaker 1: because I was like, Yeah, what do these people think
55:38
Speaker 1: these cameras are in this prison for.
55:39
Speaker 3: They got to know somebody else, Yeah, they got to
55:42
Speaker 3: be doing like they figured someone's do some kind of
55:45
Speaker 3: prison documentary.
55:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, something telling them that after like ten seasons, wouldn't
55:50
Speaker 4: they figure it out?
55:51
Speaker 2: Like, hey, wait a minute, well.
55:53
Speaker 3: Mary kay no, because they don't watch that show. And
55:57
Speaker 3: then it's not like the ones that get released who
55:59
Speaker 3: wash it show? Right, the ones who are still in
56:01
Speaker 3: prison is hey, just so you know, if camera them
56:05
Speaker 3: in there, they're doing this show.
56:07
Speaker 4: Beat the fuck out of that person, Okay, like.
56:10
Speaker 1: Now, or don't be the fuck out of that person
56:12
Speaker 1: because it'll be on camera. Get dummy, true.
56:17
Speaker 4: You, guys.
56:18
Speaker 1: Keisha and I are also covering Lovers Blind on the
56:20
Speaker 1: Prime Feed and like I said, those episodes won't come
56:24
Speaker 1: out as quick as they were because they're not giving
56:26
Speaker 1: us screeners anymore.
56:27
Speaker 4: So oh well, ripped to that.
56:29
Speaker 1: That was fun while it lasted, and recovering Match for
56:32
Speaker 1: Abroad and of course I'll love After lock Up is
56:36
Speaker 1: on Mondays, also covering ninety day HGA with Kimberly, Hunt
56:40
Speaker 1: for Love with Amy, ninety day UK. Did I say
56:44
Speaker 1: that lot's going on, guys, Lots going on, So just
56:48
Speaker 1: sure you're checking the free feed, which is this one,
56:50
Speaker 1: and also the paid feed. Everything it's runs the Gamut,
56:55
Speaker 1: I do, Bravo, I do everything. So if your New
56:58
Speaker 1: Year for this show, God bless yes, I'll be very
57:01
Speaker 1: interesting to see if we get the doctor Jeff next week,
57:03
Speaker 1: or if it's going to be a new therapist every.
57:04
Speaker 3: Week, well, I'm like it has to be each week
57:10
Speaker 3: with each person like different charges.
57:12
Speaker 4: Like I don't think they're all gonna be drug.
57:13
Speaker 1: Related because we do have some women on here, and
57:15
Speaker 1: we know it's ten episodes in this family, so it's
57:17
Speaker 1: going to be a different person each week, right Lord,
57:19
Speaker 1: Please at episode ten, let's get to recap what happens
57:22
Speaker 1: to all these people.
57:22
Speaker 4: But they won't. I'm trying to think, usually like, uh,
57:27
Speaker 4: what is the inmates roommate? Do we get like a
57:31
Speaker 4: recap at the end season, But that's.
57:34
Speaker 1: Not a different person each episode, so we might just true,
57:38
Speaker 1: we might get the one week later and they're like,
57:40
Speaker 1: forget it, we got to move on.
57:41
Speaker 2: To the next week.
57:41
Speaker 4: But I hope not. I hope not. I guess we'll see.
57:44
Speaker 1: I don't have to check the reddit and not always,
57:46
Speaker 1: of course, not always gets tearing. Everybody, please make sure
57:50
Speaker 1: you're following Kisha. She has a great podcast called The
57:53
Speaker 1: Libra Lounge with Keisha. She puts out one.
57:55
Speaker 4: To two episodes a week. Yes wee feet, yes, and
57:58
Speaker 4: please also be followed me.
58:00
Speaker 1: I follow both of us on social media at the
58:02
Speaker 1: Leader for Landage Akisha and also Peking Shaped the Pot.
58:04
Speaker 1: And we'll see you back here next week to talk
58:07
Speaker 1: about Family lock Up Episode two.
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Speaker 4: By bye,